CO-HOST | Make Money by Understanding Why Adults Are Spending Billions on Toys

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title: Make Money by Understanding Why Adults Are Spending Billions on Toys
Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Host: Travis Chappell
Guest/Co-Host: Eric (Producer)
Date: June 30, 2026
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In this lively episode, Travis Chappell and co-host Eric explore the exploding trend of adults buying toys—collectibles, action figures, LEGO sets, and more—and unpack how this billion-dollar nostalgia market intersects with personal finance, happiness, and business opportunity. The conversation weaves personal anecdotes, surprising industry statistics, and practical advice, all delivered in a bantering and honest style.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Adult Toy Purchases

• [02:14] Eric: Brings up the rapid growth in adults buying toys, joking about the terminology confusion ("adult toys").
• [03:08] Travis & Eric: Clarify they're talking about traditional children’s toys being bought by adults for themselves, not “adult” products.

2. The Data: Grown-Ups Now Outspend Kids on Toys

• [03:26] Eric: Cites a 2024 Sarkana report: "Shoppers over the age of 18 accounted for more toy sales in the first quarter than any other age group, surpassing preschoolers for the first time…adults contributed over $1.5 billion in toy sales in Q1."
• Almost half (43%) of adults bought a toy for themselves in the past year, for collecting, socialization, and enjoyment.
• [04:14] Travis: Responds, “That’s crazy,” highlighting generational shifts and the scale of change.

3. What Counts as a Toy?

• [04:54] Eric: Shares his recent purchases—a James Bond golden gun replica (a collectible)—and distinguishes between toys and collectibles.
• [05:43] Eric: Details his personal toy/collectible stash: action figures (Van Helsing, Jason Voorhees), Star Trek Enterprise replica, and a Godzilla popcorn bucket.
• [06:08] Travis: Labels some of these as “collectibles” rather than “toys,” but notes the lines are blurry.

4. The Role of Nostalgia

• [07:28] Eric: Points to pandemic-driven nostalgia as a catalyst: “The pandemic pushed a surge in nostalgia that ultimately led to increased toy sales.”
• [07:47] Eric: Explains, “I like when I watch something and I go, I love how this looks. And I want to see a visual reminder of this. So I like toys that look as close to what’s on the screen as possible…”
• [08:27] Travis and Eric: Share childhood favorites (Legos, Bionicles, Star Wars lightsabers), showing how early attachments shape adult buying.

5. Intergenerational and Psychological Dynamics

• [12:38] Eric tries to quote a common observation about adulthood: “When you’re a kid, you have no money. And then you become an adult who can buy the things you wanted as a kid.”
• [13:04] Eric: “Do you think this is true? Your entire life is in service to your 15-year-old self?”
• [13:13] Travis: Pushes back: “Most people lose touch with that version of themselves and start placing priorities that other people told them that they should have and pursue that instead.”
• [16:05] Travis: Discusses how his own children’s interests are influenced, but notes kids "don’t always gravitate" to the same things as parents.

6. Business Takeaways: The Power of Nostalgia

• [15:14] Travis: “There are several lessons to pull from a business owner perspective, though, in terms of playing on nostalgia…Can you create some sort of a collectible line or do some sort of a promotion based around a toy launch or release... It’s such a powerful psychological tool.”
  • Memorable Quote: “How can you put more experiential things back into your business?... It’s such a powerful psychological tool.” – Travis [15:14]

7. The Money Question: Is It Smart to Spend Money on Toys?

• [17:48] Eric: “From the finance side: Should adult people be purchasing toys?”
• [17:55] Travis: “Yeah, if you like it and it is not breaking the bank. Sure. You know, like, it’s your money. Do what you want with it. Just don’t…shoot yourself in the foot so you can buy something that you never are gonna really play with.”
• Discussion on price ranges—emphasizing moderation. High-end brands (McFarlane Toys) can be costly, but most toy buying won’t “break the bank” like TVs or electronics.

8. Consumer Patterns & Financial Wisdom

• [18:52] Travis: Points out that categories like electronics or TVs can be far more financially dangerous than toys.
• [20:16] Travis: “Spend your money on toys if you want to, but don’t do it if you’re in debt.” Basic financial advice: Don’t buy unnecessary items if it puts your finances at risk.
  • Memorable Quote: “Don’t spend money you don’t have on things you don’t need.” – Eric [20:27]

9. Pop-Culture, Play, and Joy

• [14:02] Eric: “I just love looking at my bookshelf and I have like one thing on each shelf. I’m like, I like that.”
• [14:41] Eric: Cheerfully admits to “playing” with his Golden Gun collectible, acting out James Bond poses alone at home.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Toy Spending:
  “Shoppers over the age of 18 accounted for more toy sales in the first quarter than any other age group, surpassing preschoolers for the first time.” – Eric [03:26]

• On Nostalgia:
  “The pandemic pushed a surge in nostalgia that ultimately led to increased toy sales.” – Eric [07:28]

• On Business Opportunity:
  “How can you put more experiential things back into your business?... It’s such a powerful psychological tool.” – Travis [15:14]

• On Financial Discipline:
  “Spend your money on toys if you want to, but don’t do it if you’re in debt.” – Travis [20:16]
  “Don’t spend money you don’t have on things you don’t need.” – Eric [20:27]

• Humorous Admissions:
  “I like to feel the leather on my skin. Shut up, dude. Anyway…I thought this was a safe space.” – Eric [10:02]
  “For me, I just love looking at my bookshelf and I have like one thing on each shelf. I’m like, I like that.” – Eric [14:02]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:14] – Eric introduces the adult toy-buying trend
• [03:26] – Industry statistics: adults surpass kids in toy purchases
• [04:54] – Personal stories: collecting vs. toys, blurred lines
• [07:28] – Impact of pandemic nostalgia on the toy market
• [08:27–09:59] – Childhood toy favorites and the pull of nostalgia
• [12:38] – “Your entire life is in service to your 15-year-old self?” and adult fulfillment
• [15:14] – Business takeaways: Using nostalgia and collectibles
• [17:48] – Is buying toys sound personal finance?
• [18:52] – Financial categories, “toy addiction” vs. other spending
• [20:16] – Bottom-line financial advice: fun vs. responsibility

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Tone and Language

The episode is bantering, playful, and self-aware, with regular tongue-in-cheek jokes about “adult toys,” self-deprecating admissions about collecting, and honest (sometimes humble) talk about money and joy. Travis and Eric blend personal storytelling with practical advice, making the conversation fun and relatable while sneaking in legitimate financial insights.

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Summary Takeaways

• Adults are transforming the toy industry—spending billions for nostalgia, collecting, and personal enjoyment.
• The pandemic accelerated childhood nostalgia’s pull, creating meaningful business opportunities for those who can “bottle” that feeling.
• It’s OK to enjoy and buy toys as an adult—so long as it aligns with your financial reality and doesn’t compromise your essential needs or goals.
• Businesses (from small brands to global giants) can tap into nostalgia and experiential products for powerful psychological (and revenue) effects.
• Ultimately, don’t let anyone shame your joy—just don’t overspend chasing it.

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Transcript

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[Travis]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's our mission to help you make some more money on this episode of the show. My producer Eric is in studio. What's up, Eric?

[Eric]

Hold on one second. I gotta check this real quick.

[Travis]

Good timing. Okay, hold on.

[Eric]

I just want to take a look at this real quick.

[Travis]

Take a look at what real quick.

[Eric]

I'm going to just look at my open app. All right, so we're going to go to steps. I'm at 6,000 steps for today, so I just need to do 6,000 to 7,000. 7,000, 8,000, 8,000, 9,000, 9,000. That's 4,000. I have 4,000 steps.

[Travis]

You need a calculator.

[Eric]

So I need 4,000 steps left to go to get me to my 10,000 steps.

[Travis]

It's about two miles.

[Eric]

It's about two miles, which. Okay, I can do that. Okay. All right, well, I'm just thinking, you know, I just want to make sure my fitness plans were all set for today.

[Travis]

I'm at 20,231 steps.

[Eric]

Okay. Yeah.

[Travis]

So I think I'm good on steps.

[Eric]

Well, basically today, my strategy for weight loss today has been drink a protein shake in the morning, walk a lot.

[Travis]

Fair life. Corepower.

[Eric]

Yep. And then eat nothing and feel like I'm gonna pass out. And then tonight at dinner, I'll eat a burger and I'll go to bed. That does work, actually. I'll watch Bring it on four and then go to bed, which I know you wanted to get back to talking about the popular film franchise. Bring it up.

[Travis]

I was hoping you bring that up again.

[Eric]

No, I wanted to chat with you a little bit, buddy.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

I wanted to talk to you about adult toys.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Eric]

You know how we do.

[Travis]

Yeah. This is a topic of conversation frequently have you bought?

[Eric]

Have I bought? Okay, all right. Have you bought?

[Travis]

You just reverted back to kid vocabulary. Drinking that fast. Kid's juice box.

[Eric]

You bitten those. Have you bought any toys lately?

[Travis]

No, I've not. Not even, like, in the real sense of the word.

[Eric]

What's the fake sense of the word?

[Travis]

Well, I assume you're. I feel like you're leading me to believe that we're talking about something that we're not talking about.

[Eric]

What do you think? I'm thinking that we're thinking about.

[Travis]

I think that you're trying to imply that we're talking about sex toys.

[Eric]

Whoa, Travis.

[Travis]

Whoa.

[Eric]

This is a family show.

[Travis]

Is it?

[Eric]

What is this? Caleb Hammer.

[Travis]

But also, that's why I'm thinking that I don't think that that's the case.

[Eric]

I was talking about toys. Like children's toys.

[Travis]

Travis, How. How is an adult toy a children's toy?

[Eric]

Because adult toy. Adult. Hold on. This juice box just hit me. Because adults are purchasing children's toys at excessive rates.

[Travis]

Oh, I see. Like, as collectibles and things perhaps like Legos.

[Eric]

All right, I'm going to read you a study, and this study has been done many, many times, and it keeps. Keeps going up. So shoppers over the age of 18. This is a 2024 study. Okay, okay, sorry. It's not too recent, but it's pretty recent. Shoppers over the age of 18 accounted for more toy sales in the first quarter than any other age group, surpassing preschoolers for the first time. According to a report by Sarkana, adults contributed over $1.5 billion in toy sales in Q1.

[Travis]

That's crazy.

[Eric]

Nearly half. 43% of adults purchased a toy for themselves in the past year for a number of reasons, including collecting, socialization and enjoyment. Per the report.

[Travis]

What kind of toys?

[Eric]

Toy sales dropped 1% from January through April, year over year, but are 38% above 2019 levels per the report. What kind of toys?

[Travis]

Yeah, like, is it? Come on, like Pokemon cards. Is that a toy?

[Eric]

I mean, Legos is definitely one like Lego here. I'll tell you this one. Where's the lego? There's a LEGO stat here. Oh, no, nevermind.

[Travis]

Good stuff.

[Eric]

The picture was a Lego, and I saw in the article something written, but it was describing the picture, the shelves of a LEGO store, and I was like, reading. But I purchased what could be called a toy two months ago.

[Travis]

What was it?

[Eric]

But no, it was a collectible. It wasn't a toy. He was a golden gun from James Bond. Yeah, that's a collectible.

[Travis]

That's a collectible.

[Eric]

Wait, hold on, let me think.

[Travis]

But does that count?

[Eric]

No.

[Travis]

In this?

[Eric]

No. I think it has to be toy.

[Travis]

Like kid toys, like Hot Wheels and actual. I'm trying to think.

[Eric]

Hold on. I just bought a toy. I buy so many toys for my child. But I do have a bunch of toys though.

[Travis]

Do you?

[Eric]

Why did you say that? I don't like how you just snarled. Do ya? In my closet I have two.

[Travis]

That's where you should keep them. Higher up, maybe in a safe.

[Eric]

Do you have a second? In my closet I have two drawers.

[Travis]

Yeah. What is it called?

[Eric]

Cabinets. Drawers. And I have a bunch of pops.

[Travis]

Oh, really?

[Eric]

And I have a bunch of. I have the Van Helsing action figure from the Dracula movie. And I have the Jason Voorhees action figure from Freddy vs Jason and from A New Blood, which is the best Friday 13th movie.

[Travis]

You also have a Star Trek Enterprise replica that you left behind us for like a year.

[Eric]

Yeah, it's on my bookshelf. And I have a Godzilla popcorn bucket on my.

[Travis]

Yeah, that's collectible though, for sure.

[Eric]

And I've got the Star Trek. The Enterprise is definitely a kid's toy.

[Travis]

Yeah, that is because my son tried to play with it the whole time.

[Eric]

And then. What's the other thing I have on my shelf? Oh, I have the Boris Karloff. The Mumm.

[Travis]

Yeah, I don't think I have any at all. I might have like a box of toys from growing up somewhere in storage or something.

[Eric]

Probably worth.

[Travis]

That's about it.

[Eric]

Probably worth a million dollars. Why now?

[Travis]

Now that you said that though, I'm going to look through. Because I have.

[Eric]

Now you're going to buy some. Now that you said I'm going to buy some toys.

[Travis]

No, I have a bunch of old

[Eric]

Lego, like you know, oh my God, dude, go to bricks and minifigs.

[Travis]

I'm not going to do that.

[Eric]

Go sell your stuff at Bricks and you should go do it and entrap them. Yeah, like, hey, you want to steal these Legos from me?

[Travis]

You want to steal these?

[Eric]

Hey, just leave like filming them.

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[Eric]

Yeah. So it says the pandemic pushed a surge in nostalgia that ultimately led to increased toy sales. Let me tell you this, though. Let me ask you this. Let me tell you this. Ask you, tell you. So when you're a kid and you're buying toys, I never like Legos. But I'm a big movie person. And so here's my thing. This is why I still like toys to this day. This is why I still like toys to this day. I like when I watch something and I go, I love how this looks. And I want to see a visual reminder of this. So I like toys that look as close to what's on the screen as possible. So, for example, I have the Enterprise on my shelf, and it looks like the Enterprise from Star Trek. I never liked Legos as a kid because they didn't look like they're from the movie. They look like Legos. So I always liked the Star Wars. Like, I would buy Star wars action figures, but I never bought. I never touched Star wars, legos, any of that.

[Travis]

I definitely liked Legos growing up. Do you remember Bionicles?

[Eric]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Travis]

I liked those, too.

[Eric]

I don't like any of it. I never bought them. But I liked how Transformers look. Cause they look like Transformers.

[Travis]

What was your favorite toy growing up?

[Eric]

I mean. I mean, I love the lightsabers.

[Travis]

Well, I was gonna say fighting categories.

[Eric]

It was like playing with lightsabers with my friends was probably at least a dozen of those. Yeah, I had so many. I remember one time I can. Enough times passed. I can talk about it, but when I was in, like, fifth grade. Too old. But I would still dress up with my friends as Jedis. And that's not too old. You know what? We're losing our youth in this country. And that was cool. No, actually, no. This was like three. I think this was third grade. It was whenever Star Wars Attack of the Clones came out. Do you remember which one that is?

[Travis]

That's the second one.

[Eric]

I mean, do you remember what year that was?

[Travis]

No, I don't remember a year.

[Eric]

Let's find out how.

[Travis]

Probably like 2003.

[Eric]

Oh, 2002. So I saw it in 2003. So I would have been eight. Okay, that's a fair age. But I remember I begged my mom. Cause I would dress up like Obi Wan. I would even do, like a little makeup and do the little. Cause he had, like, a little.

[Travis]

Obi Wan's my favorite Jedi.

[Eric]

Whatever. And I would do, like a beard and all that. And I'm still chasing the look to this day. And I had the lightsaber and all that. And I remember, like, I hated wearing my sneakers. Cause you wore those cool boots. And I remember I begged my mom for a pair of women's boots from Kmart. Cause they looked exactly like Obi Wan's boots.

[Travis]

Did she get them for you?

[Eric]

Yes. Huh. I did wear them.

[Travis]

And now you.

[Eric]

Now I wear women's shoes all the time. I like to feel the leather on my skin. Shut up, dude. Anyway, I thought this was a safe space. All indications told me this would be safe. Anyway. No. So I love playing with lightsabers, though. That was always my favorite. But even that, I liked it because it was like I wanted the one that sounded. Did the sounds. I wanted to feel like I went

[Travis]

back and forth on that, though. Because the ones that made the sounds, the lightsaber wouldn't go all the way back in the handle.

[Eric]

That's not true. Maybe back with your technology back then.

[Travis]

No, that's not true. There was two different.

[Eric]

I know what you're talking about.

[Travis]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I have some of them still. Actually, my kids now play with them that were like the ones that you push the little red button down and then you can. It's hard to find the whole thing out.

[Eric]

I tried to buy some.

[Travis]

I know. You can't find them.

[Eric]

And it's like they all have like a weird. Like it's a Darth Vader helmet. But also it's like, just. I want to give me Obi Wan's literally lightsaber.

[Travis]

Yeah. I don't know why they stopped making those. It seemed like a great time to do it with all the new Star Wars.

[Eric]

It was that. That was huge. And then the Hulk gloves.

[Travis]

I never had those.

[Eric]

Yeah, you were probably too old. Aged out anyway, so. The pandemic pushed a surge in nostalgia that ultimately led to increased toy sales. And the segment continues to be an opportunistic area, according to the report. Which means money, money, money. So some of the biggest. But however, some of the biggest toy companies are showing signs of pullback in its latest earnings. Mattel reported net sales of 810 million, down 1%. Oh, sorry. Mattel. The company reported a net loss of 28 million do, though it narrowed from 106.5 million in the year ago quarter. Rival Hasbro's Q1 revenue fell 24% to 757.3 million.

[Travis]

24% year over year, not quarter over quarter.

[Eric]

I think it's year over year. Yeah, yeah. And the company reported net earnings of 59 million, swinging from a year over year net loss of 22 million.

[Travis]

Wow.

[Eric]

Meanwhile, big box retailer Target this spring launched a private label toy brand, budget friendly. I don't care about any of this. But last year, global toy sales reached 108.7 billion, according to a separate circana report. But yeah. What do you think?

[Travis]

I mean, that's pretty crazy. I feel like it makes sense though. More community, in person stuff. Experiences, nostalgia, toys, collectibles. I think all that stuff is making a comeback, so to speak.

[Eric]

And I think I read something where it was like, I forget the thing. A lot of people share it, but it's like being. When you're a kid, you have. When you're a kid, you want something. It was basically like.

[Travis]

Well said.

[Eric]

It was like, basically like you're a kid who has no money and then you become adult who can buy the things you wanted as a kid.

[Travis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eric]

I could have just said that last part. Yeah. How does that start when you're a kid?

[Travis]

I think you just said it without saying it succinctly.

[Eric]

But anyway, basically it's like, I understand

[Travis]

what you're trying to say.

[Eric]

I did. I heard a quote one time. Do you think this is true? It's your entire life is in service to your 15 year old self?

[Travis]

I think it could be. I don't think that it is. I don't think that it is for a lot of people.

[Eric]

This guy.

[Travis]

It's not.

[Eric]

What do you mean it's not.

[Travis]

It's objectively not.

[Eric]

How's it not objectively not?

[Travis]

Because most people lose touch with that version of themselves and get. And start placing priorities that other people told them that they should have and pursue that instead of what they feel like they should actually pursue.

[Eric]

All right, so you're gonna buy any toys or. No, no, I don't.

[Travis]

I don't have. There's like none that I would think that I would want to do.

[Eric]

What do you do? What are you even interested in? You just seem so lifely. You enjoy something, man. Buy a toy.

[Travis]

Like what?

[Eric]

I don't know.

[Travis]

I have a Star wars helmet.

[Eric]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Travis]

But it's not a toy.

[Eric]

Well, I wore it yesterday. No, you didn't.

[Travis]

It was a toy.

[Eric]

I wasn't here. Can you imagine? I come in and I'm just wearing. I'm like, oh, I wiped. It was dirty. It had a bunch of signatures on

[Travis]

it, had a bunch of marks on it. Took some Shoe polish.

[Eric]

Like, for me, I just love. I just love looking at my bookshelf and I have like one thing on each shelf. I'm like, I like that.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But doesn't make you feel happy.

[Travis]

But you don't play with the toys.

[Eric]

Okay. You're assuming a lot.

[Travis]

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[Eric]

Can I be honest?

[Travis]

Just in between.

[Eric]

I did one. I did. I did. When I got the Golden Gun, I did take it out. It was just me by myself. And I went. I just had to emote real quick.

[Travis]

Just in the mirror and practicing different James Bond poses.

[Eric]

Well, James Bond didn't have the Golden Gun, dude. It was Francisco Scaramanja, the assassin with gold bullets. You know, I did do it, though. I did strike a good for you.

[Travis]

I do think that there are several lessons to pull from a business owner perspective, though, in terms of playing on nostalgia or how can you put more experiential things back into your business? Or can you create some sort of a collectible line or do some sort of a promotion based around a toy launch or release of something that kind of tugs on that nostalgia string a little bit? There's something to doing that even with small businesses, I think, because it's such a powerful psychological tool, you know,

[Eric]

do you feel like you also. Do you feel like your kids naturally gravitate to the same types of things that you liked? Or do you feel like you've pushed them toward things you like?

[Travis]

Yeah, not really. Thank you for doing that. Into the microphone.

[Eric]

The juice box is empty. I'm talking about buying toys and drinking a juice box. What's going on?

[Travis]

What's going on?

[Eric]

What's going on?

[Travis]

Yeah, not necessarily. There's been some natural things, like with Cam's video games and stuff. He plays mostly Mario stuff, but it's basically just because it's the only thing I know that is safe content for him to play. Even Minecraft. Like, he bought this expansion thing the other day and then started playing it. And he came up to me and he was like, daddy, there's something weird or creepy about that expansion. I was like, what do you mean? And he was like, apparently it was something where he was online and he heard people talking. And I was like, okay, well, we're going to delete that and maybe not buy anything else on Minecraft to make sure that you're on local servers and not playing online and things I heard.

[Eric]

That's what I mean about Roblox is really safe.

[Travis]

That's what I was going to say is like, some of those games, like some other kids have shown him Roblox and they asked me about it and I was just like, I just don't feel like I can do the volume of research that would be required for me to do in order to allow you to play that safely right now. So, yeah, I think we'll just stick to Super Mario Brothers and Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Party and like, I just know that stuff is safe. So in that context, yeah, he's sort of naturally gravitated to that, but it's sort of because I, you know, put him in that sort of sandbox. But other things, not so much. Especially like sports and stuff. He's like, when I was a kid, I was always playing something and, you know, throwing a ball or playing basketball or, you know, trying to play catch or something. He doesn't really gravitate to that stuff as much as I did. So, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think that at all. My daughter, more so, she. She likes a lot of stuff that I like, but my son is sort of a rogue. Rogue agent.

[Eric]

So both of you can just be out there playing like a girl.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Anyway. Okay, let me ask you this from the finance side. Should adult people be purchasing toys?

[Travis]

Yeah, if you like it. And it is not breaking the bank. Sure. You know, like, it's your money. Do what you want with it. Just don't, you know, shoot yourself in the foot so you can buy something that you never are gonna really play with.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You know what I mean? That's just another category of things to spend money on, you know, like a new TV or something like that. Like, that's, that's the part that I think, you know, it's. It's difficult to buy crazy expensive toys. Like if you're, if you're going crazy on toys, like, what are you gonna spend, 50 bucks, 100 bucks?

[Eric]

What, bro? Have you seen McFarland Toys, bro?

[Travis]

No.

[Eric]

It's expensive, dude.

[Travis]

I don't know what that is. McFarland Toys?

[Eric]

Yeah. No, there's some crazy expensive toys out there.

[Travis]

Yeah, but not at Walmart. Like 40 40, maybe a hundred dollar Nerf gun or something like that.

[Eric]

100 nerf gun. Whoa.

[Travis]

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's just not that many. There's not a lot of ways to break the bank.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Travis]

With a toy addiction as much as there is. I mean, obviously there's caveats to that because you can go on ebay and buy collectible items and things like that. But you get my point. Like, my thing is like probably electronics and things like that are probably the category that's going to screw people up more than other things.

[Eric]

TV suck.

[Travis]

Well, I just don't understand.

[Eric]

I bought, I bought a TV when we first moved in and I just bought like, I literally bought a little like, I think it was like 30 inch TV. I was like, I'll just throw it on a stand and then we'll just get a. When we figure out what we're going to do with what space, then we can buy a TV according to the space. And I think, I think we're just stuck with that TV till that. Because I'm just like, I don't. I have a TV that works. I don't want to get.

[Travis]

Every time I think I don't getting

[Eric]

a new one because it's when I go to someone's house and have a super sick tv, I'm like, that's so sick. I would love to watch a movie in that.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

But I'm like sitting there watching, bringing on like my 30 inch TV and I'm like, this is fine.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I don't feel like I justify.

[Travis]

I generally feel like that as well. I hate until it breaks, I'll probably just have this.

[Eric]

But I feel like that about anything that's like. And stupid because it's stuff you use the most. Yeah, but it's like I feel that way about like chairs. Like that we had the chairs around our dining. I'm like, why am I spending $400 on chairs?

[Travis]

Right.

[Eric]

You know?

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Eric]

Well, that's dumb.

[Travis]

That's because you like to keep your money.

[Eric]

I'd rather spend on toys. Speaking of. This episode is brought to you by Doc Johnson. Hey, call back an actual adult toy.

[Travis]

Yeah, yeah. Spend your money on toys if you want to, but don't do it if you're in debt. But that would be the same as spending your money on anything that you don't need. When you have a bunch of debt, it's probably a bad idea.

[Eric]

You're a wise man, Travis. Don't spend money you don't have on things you don't need more groundbreaking financial tips coming to you on the next episode.

[Travis]

You know what's crazy is we mocked that a little bit, but also that's literally how Dave Ramsey built himself into a billionaire.

[Eric]

You're right about that.

[Travis]

Telling people that exact piece of advice over and over again for 30 years because it's still something that people don't do. So anyway. Well, if you're buying toys as an adult and they're not actual, you know, adult toy category, then let us know what you're buying because I'm curious to see if anybody's actually buying toys to play with as an adult that's not for your children. Anyway, that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems. It's easier to solve the rest of your problems. Money in the bank. So let's start there here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. It's tuned in. Catch next time. Peace.