CO-HOST | Make Money Doing (Almost) Anything: The Wild Life of a Vegas Impersonator

Summary

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Episode: CO-HOST | Make Money Doing (Almost) Anything: The Wild Life of a Vegas Impersonator

Host: Travis Chappell | Co-Host: Eric (Producer)
Date: March 8, 2026

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Overview

In this lively co-hosted episode, Travis and his producer Eric riff on wild Vegas stories, the business (and pitfalls) of impersonation, and how even the most unconventional avenues can turn into legitimate—and lucrative—careers. Using the real-life experience of a Zach Galifianakis (“Alan” from The Hangover) impersonator who made a small fortune living the high life in Vegas, they discuss the unexpected lessons and lifestyle consequences of making money by becoming someone else.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: The Vegas Vibe [00:01–02:17]

• Travis and Eric have a playful back-and-forth about everything being “recorded live,” reminiscing about bachelor parties and iconic Vegas hotels.
• The conversation segues into discussing pop culture references, especially the 2009 hit movie “The Hangover” and its cultural impact on Vegas tourism.

2. The Life of an “Alan” Impersonator [02:17–13:01]

• Viral Story: Eric introduces a 2017 article about Thaddeus Kalinowski, a man who, after falling on tough times, became a nearly full-time “Alan” impersonator in Vegas, earning over $200,000 a year.
• Eric’s Personal Anecdote: He once mistook the impersonator on the Strip for the real Zach Galifianakis and took a photo, only to later be corrected by a friend.
  • "I took a picture with a random dude on the Strip who was wearing the exact outfit that Zach Galifianakis wore in the Hangover. And I thought it was him..." — Eric [03:13]
• How it Started:
  • Kalinowski’s entry into the business began after personal setbacks: “He broke up with his girlfriend, lost his job, put on weight and stopped shaving… One day he donned a pair of sunglasses, and it was then that people started mistaking Travis for Alan from the Hangover.” — [05:00]
  • Opportunistically, he leaned in, began impersonating “Alan,” and received money, attention, and wild party invitations.
  • “People started throwing money at me. Women were attacking me. Trying to make out with me...” — Eric, reading from the article [06:42]
• Downside of the Hustle:
  • The hedonistic, nonstop party lifestyle wore him out: “I suffered a real life hangover. I couldn’t do it anymore... Life got so hectic. I probably would have died if I continued down the path.” [06:59]
  • Vegas impersonator scene was cutthroat, with territorial disputes between performers.

3. The Dark Side of Impersonation [09:53–13:09]

• Referencing the documentary “Confessions of a Superhero,” they compare Vegas’s competitive street performer scene to Hollywood Boulevard.
• Lifestyle Consequences:
  • Partying isn’t just part of the gig, it’s an expectation from tourists: “Playing Alan. Everyone expects you to party. Everyone expects you to drink whatever they have and whatever is they want you to do for a tip.” — Eric [09:53–10:57]
  • The toll: health struggles, pressure to party, substance abuse, and “territorial confrontations” sometimes turning violent.

4. Reflections: Riches, Risks & Regrets [13:09–18:48]

• Both hosts marvel at “Alan” walking away before the lifestyle destroyed him and discuss the limits of building a career tied so closely to a pop culture moment.
• Branding Risks:
  • Should people be cautious about tying their brand to a single impersonation? Examples: John Di Domenico (“Trump” impersonator) and Adam Ray (“Dr. Phil” impersonator) who both found success but remain closely associated with those figures.
  • “Do you think people should be reticent about building their brand off the top of something else… or does it matter?” — Eric [14:32]
  • Travis: "It only matters to the degree that you believe that it matters. If you don't want to be that person, then you probably shouldn't do that..." [14:53]
• Ownership: Adam Ray turned impersonation into original content and a Netflix special, which is praised as a higher-level approach to leveraging a talent or niche.

5. Hypotheticals: What Would You Do? [18:48–24:48]

• Impersonator Daydreams: Travis and Eric imagine which character they’d impersonate if they had to make money on Fremont Street.
  • Travis: “I would do Elvis.” [19:31]
  • Eric: “I could be Alan if I keep going.” [22:26]
• Alternative Hustles: If forced to perform in a street entertainer’s “circle,” Travis would juggle, possibly learn some magic tricks, but rules out being kicked in the groin for cash.

6. Final Reflections & Takeaway [24:48–25:05]

• The episode circles back to empowerment and resilience:
  • “The takeaway here is you can make money doing anything.” — Travis [23:48]
  • “Go to Atlantic City for a week, get that bag. Leave, don't continue.” — Eric [23:52]
  • “The real takeaway is hit rock bottom because you never know what’s going to come out of it.” — Travis [23:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Viral Vegas Opportunity:
  • "Little did he know that reaching rock bottom would provide him with a way to bounce back and take his career in a completely unimaginable direction." — Eric [05:00]
• On the Toll of the Party Life:
  • "I suffered a real life hangover. I couldn’t do it anymore... I probably would have died if I continued down the path." — Eric (reading Kalinowski) [06:59]
• On Brand Identity:
  • "It only matters to the degree that you believe that it matters. If you don't want to be that person, then... you're not going to be able to pull yourself away from that." — Travis [14:53]
• Takeaway Reflection:
  • “Money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there.” — Travis [24:51]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:17] — Introduction of the “Alan” impersonator story
• [05:00] — How the impersonator got his start
• [06:59] — The toll of the Vegas impersonator lifestyle
• [09:53] — The dark side of street performing (violence, territorialism)
• [14:32] — Brand identity issues for impersonators
• [19:31] — Travis and Eric discuss who they'd impersonate on the Strip
• [23:48] — Main takeaways: you can make money doing anything
• [24:51] — Travis’s closing wisdom

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Final Thoughts

This episode is an energetic mix of storytelling, industry reflection, and practical wisdom. Listeners are left with two key messages: you never know what opportunities arise from unconventional paths—and making money is possible in the wildest ways, but it's crucial to recognize the lifestyle costs and maintain a sense of self outside the persona you monetize. Whether it’s through impersonation or a creative side-hustle, the real “win” is defining success on your own terms.

Transcript

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Hey, man. We're recording here live in Vegas.

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Live. We recording live.

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Everything's recorded live.

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I guess everything will be recorded live.

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Everything's recorded live.

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That's true.

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You remember that time when we stayed in Vegas? I don't remember if you were living here or not. We stayed at Caesar's Palace.

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We stayed there.

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Yeah. Remember?

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I feel like we didn't start working together until I moved here.

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No, we. We came here.

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Okay.

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It was for a. No, it was for a bachelor party and we woke up in Caesar's Palace.

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Oh, remember we went up on the roof? Yeah, that's right. You remember the mattress? Yeah. Okay.

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I'm of course referencing the hit 2009 comedy.

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That sounds right. Because I was not allowed to watch it.

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Hangover. Let me see if that's right.

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I had a bunch of friends that went to the theater.

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Dude, I. I clocked it. 2009.

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That sounds pretty much perfect.

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That's so good. That's so crazy. Like, if I could go on a Jeopardy, like movie Edition, I would be a champ.

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That has to exist. That doesn't exist. You should make it. That's the new film Schooled podcast.

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So listen. So the show, the. The movie, the Hangover was a big hit. One of the most popular comedy trilogies ever. And for good reason. Like many things, some people made some money on the back of it by being impersonators. And today I want to tell you the story about a guy who made $200,000 a year.

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Real quick, can I tell you something about impersonator from that film?

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Yes.

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I was in Vegas before I lived here.

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Okay.

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And was walking up down the Strip and saw Zach Galifianakis, the real one. That was what I thought.

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Wait a minute. I think you're about to say something about what I'm.

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It was one of those times, you know. You know, a couple episodes ago. Ago. We're talking about literacy and stuff like that. Knowledge gaps, and everybody's got knowledge gaps. And sometimes it's like you get to a certain age and you're like, how did I not realize that? This is one of those times for me where I took. I asked if I could take a picture with this guy. It's like, it's Zach Alvianakis. I sent it to a friend of mine. He was like, bro, you know that's like an impersonator, right? And I was like, oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. No, I definitely knew that. I didn't know that. I took a picture with a random dude on the Strip who was wearing the exact outfit that Zach Galifianakis wore in the Hangover. And I thought it was him, but he looked very, very much like.

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It might be this defense. Okay. But anyway. Oh, can I tell you who I met in Vegas one time? Sure. I didn't meet him. I saw him and I didn't want to talk to him because there was nothing to say. The guy from, you know, ever since that video, D's Nuts. Yeah, I saw him in.

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Really?

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One time. It was him and someone. I think someone from pornhub corporate, because

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that makes a lot of the shirts.

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And he was just walking around, there

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was like, oh, he was gambling all of his D's Nuts. Money.

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Yeah. These nuts. That's a great video.

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Got him.

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Got him. Yeah. Maybe as popular as they are. Anyway, so I was going to show you this guy. Maybe it's him.

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Could be.

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So I was.

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I didn't pay him money, but I did take a picture with him.

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So article I came across, it's from 2017, but I. It was. It, like, went viral on Social recently, and I was like, that's interesting. Was this him? I'm staring Completely black.

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That could very well be him because it looked exactly like. And he was wearing that exact outfit.

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So the article says a man who has for the last six years been making a living impersonating Allen from the Hangover in Las Vegas has quit his job. Has to be him because the lifestyle is taking its toll on his health. I love that you thought that the

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lifestyle of being an impersonator or the lifestyle that's pretty.

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We'll get into it.

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Okay.

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I think it's really funny that you thought Zach Galifianakis was walking around, was wearing his exact wardrobe. I just thought about that.

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That's whom.

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So 40 year old Thaddeus Kalinowski. We're probably distant cousins. It kind of looks like me. Actually started impersonating Zach Galifianakis character from the 2009 film in 2011 after he put on weight and noticed the resemblance.

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Noticed the resemblance. Ye looks exactly like it.

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Thick, thick white guy with a beard. But the boozy lifestyles that had seen Kalinowski spend his days and nights partying with celebrities and earn €200,000, I believe.

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I think that's a euro.

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Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize it. I think I saw it was, whoa. $267,979 a year for doing so. Has become too much Doppelganger has given up the day job. So that's what it's like.

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I had too much of a crazy time pretending to be somebody else.

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Well, it makes sense when you think about it. So he says. So he used to be a restaurant manager. Broke up with his girlfriend, lost his job, put on weight and stopped shaving. And little did he know that reaching rock bottom would provide him with a way to bounce back and take his career in a completely unimaginable direction. One day he dawned a pair of sunglasses. And it was then that people started mistaking Travis, started mistaking for Allen for the Hangover.

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It has to be this guy.

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What if you started this? What year was it?

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Took a picture with him. He was like, holy cow.

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And asking him for photos. He never noticed resemblance. He decided to take a trip to Atlantic City and actively try to impersonate Allen. Crazy. And it was a success. He was surrounded by women, offered free drinks.

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Oh. So he actually. He wasn't even like an impersonator. He was literally pretending to be the guy.

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I think he was going to impersonate him. I think people were just like, dude, you look like the guy.

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Yeah.

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So they said pictures. People started throwing money at me. Women were attacking me. Trying to make out with me, but instead going home. That's what you did when you saw

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Zach Alifanakis open up, big boy.

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But instead of being going home at the end of this week, he decided to stay. That's how all bad stories start. And stayed for years.

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It's a bad idea to stay in Vegas, right?

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He wasn't the only Allen lookalike working the Vegas circuit, but. But that didn't stop him from being a hit. But the pressure of living up to the character's wild partying ways eventually became too much for Kalinsky. For Kalinowski, who decided to move back home to Philadelphia. I suffered a real life hangover. I couldn't do it anymore. I believe life got so, so hectic. I probably would have died if I continued down the path. There were lots of territorial confrontations over spots where people hustled. That's street performers, drug dealers. And people were beaten with bats, pipes, bottles and fists over territories. Oh, dude. Dude. The one of the best documentaries of all time. Just a side note, Superman impersonator. I always get the name wrong. If you've never seen it, Confessions of a Superhero is a doc.

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the street performers on Hollywood Boulevard. It's one of the most interesting, but it talks about this where like, two Wonder Woman will be like, this is my territory. And, like, there' one guy that's like, I'm the. The main guy is like, I'm the Superman for Hollywood Boulevard. Like, there's a guy that thinks, like, dresses like Batman. It's. It's really good, but it's the same kind of thing. While tourists will go to Vegas to party and they tend to only spend a few days there, he was attempting to party as hard as they did all the time, which was not healthy. Playing Alan. Everyone expects you to party. This is where I was like, oh. Because if you're. If you're a bachelor party's there and you're dressed as Alan and they take you with them for the night, like they want you to be. Yeah, yeah. So playing Allen. Everyone expects you to party. Everyone expects you to drink whatever they have and whatever is they. Whatever they have. They made a mistake in this 2017 Independent article. No, no.

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Whatever.

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Whatever they have and whatever is they want to do, whatever they have and whatever is they want you to do. For a tip, they didn't put it. Should I write them letter to the editor?

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Excuse me.

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You better do it. People give me full bottles of liquor before they hopped on their flights. I remember one night. This cost me to blackout. It's not funny. Sorry.

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Guys fall to broken glass bottles.

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It's funny because I picture Allen and I was robbed.

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This is like exactly what Allan would go through.

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Like, if someone else told you this, you'd be like, oh, my God. But it's like the fact that he's like, look at the picture.

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What? What's the. What's the Asian dude's name from hanging Chow. Chow. Yeah.

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Yeah. Getting sliced open and I was robbed. Not only was the hardest I've laughed ever in a movie was the first time they were show Chow jump out of the trunk and he attacks them. It's so good. Not only was Kalinowski. I gotta learn how to say his Polish names.

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Oh, side, side note.

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When.

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When Bobby Lee's on the cruise, he said that he's like, said something about I hate getting mistaken for.

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Yeah. He hates kenj. Yeah.

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He's like, everyone asked if I'm in the Hangover 19 times a day.

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I'm not Dr. Ken. Not only was Kalinowski under pressure drink, he was also pushed into taking drugs, which is crazy. Those two don't look anything like each other. By the way. Bobby Lee and Ken J. Similar.

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Yeah. Right.

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And I like. I don't want to be like, too progressive and liberal, but those two guys look nothing alike. Yeah. Anyway, not only was Kalanowski under pressure to drink, he was also push. I was under so much pressure to do parties and was often pushed into rooms with people telling me I had to do drugs. I got really desperate, which. That happens to everybody in Vegas, not just impersonators.

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Yeah, but not like, you have to do this.

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Yeah. Understandably, Kalanowski got bored and tired of playing the same character and doing the same.

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That's a wild picture because that obviously doesn't look anything like the same guy.

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This is. This is the funniest in the whole article. He's now shaved off his beard and cut his hair. Make him look completely different to Alan. I had to rip myself of the character, so I shaved my head ironically. Now I look a little like Alan from the Hangover too. There's just no getting around it. Kalinowski said love to play Allen in a TV advert. I think they'd probably just get Zach Gal from Rockus to do that. But he thinks he wants a couple years break. He admits he won't be able to impersonate alan when he's 60. It'll look really strange. I don't know. They might make with all the nostalgia stuff. Now they're gonna be hanging over four and. Yeah.

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2036.

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Can I be honest? I know people don't like it. I think Hangover 3 is funny too.

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I think all the Hangovers are funny.

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Me too.

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I mean, Hangover, the original is just too good to like. You can't duplicate how awesome the Hangover was.

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Isn't that crazy that the dude that directed the Hangover directed Joker?

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Yeah. It is really weird. Yeah. Because he mostly did comedies before that.

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Yeah. Road trip. Hangover. What's the Will Ferrell one? Bad Santa. No. Oh, yeah, Bad Santa. And the one with Will Ferrell. The party One College one.

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Oh, old school.

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Old school. Yeah. And then that was him. And then he was like, Joker.

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Yeah, let me, let me do Joker

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now and then Joker. Oh, and War Dogs.

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Oh, yeah, War Dogs. Great movie.

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So underrated. So great.

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He's got range, that Todd Phillips guy. Yeah, he's got range.

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Get him on the horn.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That would be funny if they did a Hangover movie. But it's all the impersonators.

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Yeah.

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It's just like.

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Yeah, but who can do a Bradley Cooper impersonation?

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Any eagle.

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Any eagle looks like an eagle.

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Anyway. Well, okay. Well, I. I thought this was a cool story because one, there's a version of this where he just really did well.

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Yeah. Right.

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Just made a lot of money capitalizing on something.

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Well. And to be fair, like, I mean, he figured out it was a bad move and he stopped doing it, which is a good ending to the story.

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Let me ask you this, though. What do you think is the drawback? Because, like, I always hear stories and I even see this with fellas like, John D. Domenico does Trump. Yeah. Or.

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And he was, I think, the highest paid person on cameo for a minute.

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Yeah. And then six figures. Adam Ray doing is mainly known for Dr. Phil.

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Yep.

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Like, do you think people should be reticent about building their brand off the top of something else? Like where you're so inextricably linked to another thing, or does it matter?

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I think it only matters to the degree that you believe that it matters. Meaning, like if you.

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Confucius say, like, if you don't.

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It's sort of the whole thing that we go back to all the time, which is like, when nothing matters, you get to decide what matters.

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Right.

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It's like, if you don't want to be that person, then, yeah, you probably shouldn't do that because you're not going to be able to pull yourself away from that.

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Imagine, Imagine how John feels. He made the decision to be Trump all those years ago, and now the Epstein files are coming out. He's like.

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Well, honestly though, I think he's like, been pretty happy with the decision because it's made a career for him. He's 15 years.

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Him and Adam Ray have both done a great. Like, now people are starting, like, they're starting to know them too.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like. Like, for a long time, I Feel

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like Adam's a little bit different just because he does so many other people as well. Dr. Phil is obviously the thing that he's most well known for.

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Oh, you mean John.

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No, no, Adam Ray. Like, he, like, he does several impersonations.

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So does John.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Austin Powers Dr. Phil. Dude, you know what you should do? You should get Adam Ray on the show. No, no, you should get Adam, you know, be really, really actually iconic. What? That's because I met Paris Hilton one time. That's why I say iconic sometimes. 11, 11. Make a wish. Anyway, you should get Adam Ray as Dr. Phil. Like totally. Just T bone him with a surprise. John d. Domenico as Dr. Phil coming in to analyze him, to give him

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notes on his Dr. Phil.

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Yes. And then you come in also dressed as Dr. Phil. No, that would be funny if you brought him in. You're like, hey. And then you had John come in as Dr. Phil.

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There's multiple Dr. Phil's.

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Yeah.

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Will the world Dr. Phil please stand up?

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And then you have the actual Dr. Phil come in.

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Yeah, I know all those people, so.

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And then you have Zach Galifianakis come in with the Deez Nuts guy. No, but that would be funny. Anyway, I was curious what you thought about it, because sometimes I see stuff and I'm like, there's no way this ends well. But then I guess, I guess gave two examples where it's worked out very well.

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Yeah, right, Exactly. I think it just. Yeah, I think it just matter. It just. However you define your career is ultimately what matters. Like, I don't, I don't think, I don't think either of those people regret doing that.

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Right.

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You know what I mean? And, and someone like Adam Ray too, like, he, he doesn't just do like a spot on a show where he pretends to be Dr. Phil. Like he created his own act.

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Yeah.

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That is him being Dr. Phil and

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ultimately led to him getting Dr. Phil.

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Yeah.

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To do a show.

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And, and, and that was a Netflix special when he did that one.

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Yes.

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Because he does Dr. Phil live at the Comedy Store all the time. But then he actually sold a special to Netflix as Dr. Phil With Dr. Phil being in the episode, which is pretty cool.

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I cannot believe it. That's Dr. Phil.

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That's your Dr. Phil.

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Yeah, that's why he has a comedy special on Netflix.

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I cannot believe it. It was more like Forrest Gump.

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Today's. My mom used to always watch Dr. Phil and she would make me watch the episodes. Did she like the, like the brat kids she's like, you watch this. This is not.

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Yeah, Cash me Outside girl. That's where she got her name way

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after I was an adult. But. But, yeah, my parents wouldn't let me

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watch any of those.

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I swear. Dr. Phil in the intro would always say, today is going to be a changing day in your life. Pretty good, huh?

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Solid.

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Felt like he was there. Well, okay. Well, I know, I know.

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It's still really cool to me, though, that somebody like this could be like, I'm sort of rock bottom here, and then figure out a way to make it work and then earn a couple hundred thousand dollars a year. Like, the volume of stories this dude has is probably that he remembers. Yeah, right.

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Think about all the stories he's experienced that he doesn't remember, that people have photos of that they tell people.

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Right, exactly. We partied with Alan.

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Okay, let me ask you this.

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How many of the people thought that it was Zach Galifianakis? Is the question.

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1. At least.

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least one.

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Let me ask you this. If you had to be an impersonator on the Vegas Strip, you lose everything. You're on the Vegas Strip. You have to be an impersonator. You have to. Wait, hold on. Let's do this. Yeah, you have to. We'll do the impersonator. You have to be impersonator of somebody.

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Okay.

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Who do you pick? Who do you feel most confident? You could get into the rhythm. And then alternatively, if you had to do anything, you're on Fremont street, you're in one of those circles. You have to do something to entertain people, to make money for your living. What are you doing?

[A]

That's way more difficult.

[B]

How do you start with the first one? If you had to do one impersonation on the Strip, you had to dress up like somebody and commit to that bit.

[A]

The only problem with this one is that it's the thing that Vegas is known for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's Elvis.

[B]

You would do Elvis.

[A]

I would do Elvis.

[B]

They were gonna say, compared to any.

[A]

I don't know, like, I feel like there's nobody that I really look like in that. I would just have this uncanny, you

[B]

know, who you kind of look like, like, resemblance to. But I always say your face shape is helmet. You have a helmet head.

[A]

You always say that.

[B]

I've said that a million times.

[A]

You've ever told me that.

[B]

Maybe I've never said it to you.

[A]

You just told Tara, like.

[B]

Like a. You know, those helmets, the Trojan helmets that have.

[A]

Like that. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Your face. Because you have such a pointy. Face. But, but, but you know what, though? Then when Gladiator 2 came out, you do not look like this person because I don't want your ego to get inflated, but you kind of have like the Paul Mescal from Gladiator face.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like the shape. Like, yeah, if you, you're not as talented or good looking as Paul Mescal and you're not as built as Paul Mescal, but like, you have the pointy nose. Actually, actually, he's not. I mean, he's in good shape.

[A]

Yeah, but he's not like.

[B]

What would you rate?

[A]

He's not like, unattainable shape, though.

[B]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how hot do you think Paul Mescal is?

[A]

I mean, he's a, he's a. He's a good looking.

[B]

But I'm saying. You know what I mean, though? Like, yeah, you could be a Paul.

[A]

That's sort of the mescal vibe that I would go for is like, like a Gladiator. Greek something or Roman. It's funny, I was texting Brian Cal the other day and sent him a video. I just send random videos people when I walk and stuff. And it was when I was growing out my beard a bunch and he sent me a video back and he was like, bro, you look like a. You look like a Israeli special forces operator or something right now. I was like, that. That, that's a. That's right in my wheelhouse with a big beard is like.

[B]

Like Zohan. Like the Zohan. Yeah, that's you. Okay, if you had to do a skill in the circle. What are you doing? That.

[A]

That's really hard. I don't know.

[B]

Juggling, I guess.

[A]

That's the only thing I could do.

[B]

You're a little juggler.

[A]

Watch that. There's a. I'm not that great at it. There's. I just.

[B]

There's the guy that just lets people pay to kick him in the nuts.

[A]

I don't want to do that one. That sounds like not a great time. I'm gonna lie. Maybe learn a couple magic tricks and just do that.

[B]

Yeah, that's a lot of competition.

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[A]

Close up Magic, though. You can, like, get competent at it with a couple months of work. It's definitely not going to be like dancing or.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Street performing. In that context, singing, that'd be different.

[B]

Rap battle.

[A]

Yeah, that's not me either. All right, what about you? Who are you? Who are you impersonating?

[B]

I mean, I could be Alan if I keep going.

[A]

If I make a. Make a push if I had to be.

[B]

So. I mean, I could be niche. I mean, the guy from Fast and Furious, Tokyo Drift. If I shave my beard.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

If I shave my beard. But nobody would know because it's just a white guy in a T shirt. Yeah.

[A]

He doesn't have a distinct look.

[B]

I used to go from. You know what I used to always get all the time when I. When I was in Fresno and I would travel, I always, like. Not always, like, six, seven times in the course of those, like, two years, which is a lot of times it was. Have you ever been told you look like that guy plays Spider Man? And they would be like Tobey Maguire. I always got that.

[A]

I'd see that.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

Younger, younger Eric. I could see that. Now I look like Face.

[B]

Now I look like Tobey Maguire in Babylon. After a couple of years of podcasting

[A]

and hard living, the only things I've ever gotten was Flynn Rider from Tangled I got in college when that movie.

[B]

See.

[A]

Oh, and then Chris Van Vliet told me I looked like Seth Rollins.

[B]

Oh, that's right. You do look like. But Chris doesn't look like anybody.

[A]

Chris.

[B]

I've never seen someone that looks like Chris.

[A]

Yeah, what a good dude.

[B]

He kind of looks like. Never mind. Go ahead and close this.

[A]

All right, well, I guess. I guess the takeaway here is you can make money doing anything.

[B]

Go to Atlantic City for a week, get that bag. Leave, don't continue.

[A]

The real takeaway is hit rock bottom because you never know what's going to come out of it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's a good takeaway.

[B]

That is. X was so disappointed that she. She got out of there right before it became a Top Allen impersonator. You know, she. You know.

[A]

But you said that was 2017. Do you know what he's doing now?

[B]

He died.

[A]

That would be wild.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

He's just like a manager at a Walgreens or something.

[B]

What's his name? Kalinowski. Let's look real quick. Thaddeus Kalinowski.

[A]

That sounds like a made up name

[B]

that sounds like my name.

[A]

Thaddeus Kalanowski.

[B]

All of these are just regurgitations of the same article.

[A]

Oh, we'll go to that question. The seduction question right there.

[B]

Where is he now as of early 2026?

[A]

Well, that doesn't.

[B]

No longer actively impersonating. But see, it's all pulling.

[A]

You could be doing anything.

[B]

Instagram quotes. Yeah, anyway.

[A]

All right, Thaddeus, if you're listening, come on the show, tell us what you're doing now. Anyway, that's it for today's episode. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time.

[B]

Peace.