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Travis
So good, so good, so good.
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Eric
What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, where it's a mission to help you make more money on this episode of the show. My producer Eric is in studio. What's up, Eric?
Travis
Hey, what's up with you?
Eric
Oh, you know, just choking down more protein.
Travis
Yeah, boy. I'm at 84 grams of protein today and I haven't eaten a single thing.
Eric
Well, no, you have more than that. Cause you had one of those protein.
Travis
I've eaten one single thing.
Eric
Beef.
Travis
Beef first form. So I'm at 84 plus 16, aren't they 16 grams?
Eric
18 grams. 102. It's 18 grams. It's 18 grams. It'S in big bold letters on the
Travis
front of the wrapper here.
Eric
On the front of it, it's just big bold letters. And you're showing it to me right now as you're looking for it on the back.
Travis
Still 18 grams.
Eric
Yep, that's what I said.
Travis
And that's how much. Let's go ahead and punch that.
Eric
18 and 42 is 60, plus another 42 is 102.
Travis
18.
Eric
I did this math so long ago, and it's frustrating that you're just continuing
Travis
to do 42, 42 corn. That's 102. I'm at 102 grams of protein today and I've only had one small amount of solid food. Yeah, yeah, that's healthy. Highly recommend. It is nice to be halfway through my protein and also knowing I haven't eaten.
Eric
Well, it. Because it's. Yeah, it follows all the. It follows the rule of the 10 to 1 ratio on calories to protein.
Travis
Well, this isn't a protein show.
Eric
It is not.
Travis
This is a podcast.
Eric
Okay. So did you have something else that you wanted to talk about?
Travis
Okay. Yes.
Eric
Okay.
Travis
All right. So someone wants to make their first hundred thousand dollars. Okay.
Eric
Yep.
Travis
I could do this as a tier. I want to do everything as a tier list now. It's so much fun. Should I do it as a tier list?
Eric
I don't know what you're gonna do.
Travis
Let's do a tier list. Okay?
Eric
Okay.
Travis
S means supreme. And then A, B, C, D, F, E. No longer. If you're wanting to make your first hundred K. Okay, I'm gonna give you some things and you tell me where you put this on the tier list.
Eric
All right, let's do it.
Travis
Flipping or reselling at scale
Eric
B tier. I'm gonna put it at B tier.
Travis
No, you gotta get out there. You gotta. You flip a couch.
Eric
Yeah. Just because a hundred grand, like thirty grand you can make flipping just random stuff. A hundred grand, you gotta build in more processes, more. It's just more intense to get to that number with smaller ticket items. And then if you're going to make 100, like you can make 100 grand flipping houses. But then there's obviously a lot more risk, a lot more knowledge, a lot more connections that you have to learn to be able to do that.
Travis
So I'd put it B tier, no counterpoint.
Eric
Okay.
Gary
What do you mean when an ebay completed items. Fucking I'm going to show you, going to garage sales, you're like, oh, shit, I see a lot of salt and pepper shakers. Then you go to filter sold and completed items, sort highest price. And then you're like, oh, shit. $441, 600, 1,000. You're not buying this little fucking bird at a fucking garage sale if you don't know who bought this for 300 videos. Salt and pepper shaker, fucking collector. People buy everything. Everything could be flipped. How do you think I figured out mug life? I was like, I see a lot of mugs at garage sales. Do mugs sell for anything? Search on ebay. Mugs completed items sold. Sort by fucking price. Holy shit. There's $88 mugs, there's $63 mugs. There's $96 mugs. Then go buy a bunch of mugs for a quarter, come home, look them up, educate, educate, educate. The key to flip life is the homework you do during the week that you fucking then leverage on Saturday when you kill it with your fucking knowledge.
Travis
S tier, S tier. Travis.
Eric
I love Gary so much.
Travis
I do too. He's a good boy.
Eric
It was a weird way to say it, but yeah.
Travis
Good, good Gary.
Eric
Good boy Gary.
Travis
All right, here's the next one.
Eric
That's what they call him.
Travis
Creating content and then trying to build an offer based on the content.
Gary
Mm.
Eric
This is like what I encourage people to do, but I also am gonna put it B tier because it is not.
Travis
Not as easy as it sounds.
Eric
As easy as it sounds, yeah.
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Eric
It's. It's.
Travis
I'm about a lot of work. For context. I'm six years in. I feel like I'm getting here.
Eric
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But also, you don't have like, your content is not like you're gonna create a coaching program.
Travis
Is that what you're gonna say?
Eric
Your content sucks? Oh, no, it's, it's not as easily attributed to like, oh, we have a. It feels weird to be like, you know, you suffered abuse. Now let's put you into this high ticket coaching Program.
Travis
Oh, dude. There's so many people that do what I do and then they have like support groups, like premium. It's just like, that feels so weird.
Eric
It does feel strange.
Travis
And I know some of them are good people and they say not, but it's also like, I know if I did it, I would not be able to sleep.
Eric
It just. Yeah, it feels strange.
Travis
It's probably fine. But I would go to bed in shame every night.
Eric
Well, I guess for context, my first year with build your network, where I did like where it was my first actual full year of full time doing it, I think I made like $56,000 or something like that doing it.
Travis
So I wonder how much money I made in my first year of my show.
Eric
It's just not. And I basically just broke a lease on a bigger place. I moved in with my brother in law and my wife and my two dogs into this two bedroom apartment. Our total living exp expenses got cut from like 3,000, 3,500 for just for the house and utilities. Cut that to 500. So it was just like we just contracted all of our spending so that I could afford to make that little amount of money for that year. Now the next year went to like 400,000. So there, there's a really great long, long tail effect that happens with, with content and building an audience. But in terms of like you want to make your first a hundred grand and you want to do it this year, it's less, it's less in your control. You're sort of at the mercy of the algorithms and at the beginning you're not, you're just not going to be good. So it's just more difficult to gain an audience when your stuff's not that good.
Travis
It's true. That's true. A hard lesson many learn. All right, so you're wanting to make your first hundred thousand dollars. Okay.
Eric
Yep.
Travis
We just talked about flipping. Then we just talked about creating content and building an offer. I just lost my spot in my notes, so I'm doing filler really quick. There we go. But, but, but, here we go. Freelancing across multiple skills. I can speak to this one. So you're doing like graphic design for this person. I can throw up a website. I can go take some pictures, do some video. I can write this blog for them. Like freelancing across multiple skills.
Eric
I'm going to put, assuming you don't have one, that's freelancing with one skill. And this is just covering freelancing as a topic. Then I would put That a tier because of how quickly you can make good money doing those types of things and that it's not like crazy difficult to find work doing those things. So I would put that a tier in terms of like making your first a hundred grand. Now the long tail again is basically like figure out during that year which of these things you like doing, which of these things you don't like doing. Which of these things you can make more money versus making less money. What's worth your time? What's not worth your time? Bring on a VA or an assistant that you pay five bucks an hour to help manage it a little bit and then you can scale that into an actual agency that you could turn into a million, $5 million a year type of a thing. But yeah, in terms of like zero to a hundred I think, I think that's, that's a, that's a really good one.
Travis
I put that a tier creating a niche agency.
Eric
Oh, I'm gonna put that S tier. I think that's great. First hundred K. That's fantastic. Because when you do stuff done for you, it makes up, it makes up in offer strength what you lack in sales skills. So selling something that does not guarantee the result is just more difficult to sell. It's more difficult to sell coaching than it is to sell a done for you service. So I would put that S tier
Travis
creating a high ticket service business S tier again.
Eric
So like anything that's service that's not agency. Basically you're saying, yeah, yeah, I put that S tier as well because again you can scale it or you can not scale it. You can, you can make that decision as you take on more client work. But again you're, you're, you're, you're selling, you're selling a result. You're not selling, you're not selling hope for a result. So it's a little bit easier to sell. And again if you have really strong sales skills then you might be able to do something else and see similar results and have better profit margins and things like that. But like I said, it's, it's easier to sell things where like it's a done for you thing or the, the service is like unequal. It's unable, it's, it's unable to be argued. You know what I mean? Like you're whatever cleaning trash cans or washing windows or something like that. Like you either washed the window or you didn't. You know what I mean? Like the, the result is the result. So as long as you do the thing like it's there's no questions around. Did you wash this window? You know what I mean? Unless you just suck at washing windows. But assuming that you can actually do it, like, it's just easier to sell stuff that's going to be done for you.
Travis
Did you ever read the story? Cause you probably had the same textbooks growing up.
Eric
Yeah, I'll do that.
Travis
Do you remember the story about the kid? This story, like radically changed my life and I still think about it. There was a story of a boy who wanted to do. He wanted to do like a. He wanted to do land, like yard trimming for this lady. And she said he wanted to do like a $5 job. And then she said, basically, you tell me what the job is worth. And so he basically goes and he cuts the grass, he does all this stuff. And then he's like, I don't know if I did a $5 job. So he asked for like 250. And then he goes back and he gets out scissors and he's going around the ring. He gets basically very attention to detail and ultimately then asks for five bucks. But did you ever read that story?
Eric
No. No.
Travis
It was a story, though. And I remember reading it.
Eric
It was like a literature, short story type thing.
Travis
Yeah, it was a literature story, but I just remember reading that story and it was such a. I still think about it sometimes when it comes to bringing value to a situation, which is what it was. It was propaganda to make me think that way as a capitalist cog in the machine. But no, I just remember I thought it was a really cool story because it was like she was willing to pay him $5, but he wanted to do a job that was worth $5. And I always think about that stuff in context of the freelancing or the just everyday content. It's just a really. It's like, yeah, you could get this, but are you the person that's worth that?
Eric
Sure.
Travis
And it's a really cool story. I wish you knew what it was called. I don't, but yeah, they got me with that one.
Eric
Yeah. High ticket services. Agency work. I put that S tier for your first.
Travis
A hundred K. Okay. God forbid I ask you this one. I literally. This was first and I put it last because I knew you had thoughts. So I'm going to say it. I'm going to take my headphones off. I'm going to leave the room. Sales job.
Eric
I knew you were going to say that. Yeah, it's.
Travis
Thanks, everybody. That's it for me. Travis has got it from here.
Eric
It's S tier for sure.
Travis
For sales. That's literally sales brain. Hey, hey, Is this job S tier? It starts with S. I'm a salesman.
Eric
Good one.
Travis
I don't know.
Eric
Yeah, it's definitely S tier because again, it's a. It's a great skill to take into whatever you're doing. If you start selling for somebody else, you don't have. There's the. You don't have the burden of having to something from scratch and learn how to fulfill. You don't have to learn operations, you don't have to learn anything else. You can just go sell for somebody else. Their company takes care of all the fulfillment, all the operations, all of the hr, all of the finance, and then you collect a check for what you sell. So it's like a siloed version of entrepreneurship. It's not actually being an entrepreneur, which is what I used to think when I was a sales guy. I was like, basically I have my own business. And it's like, well, you don't have your own business because ultimately somebody else can still decide to not allow you to sell their stuff. But it is especially 100% commission sales. It's still like you eat what you kill, but you can also earn a good amount of money. Like, I still have several friends who have. They've just been salespeople for 15 years, but they live a very good life. You know, make two to $300,000 a year, fairly flexible working hours. And a lot of them now are done over zoom anyway, so you can work, work from home in your spare bedroom and see your kids in between calls or whatever. So, yeah, yeah, that one. Obviously my thoughts around that, but that's a. That's an S tier for me.
Travis
What was that? Which maybe I've asked this before and I've forgotten because I don't care, but. Just kidding. Which sales realm made the most money for you?
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Travis
they're like, I want to.
Gary
Hold on, hold on.
Eric
Okay, okay, let me build it up.
Travis
Forget he said that. If someone's listening, like I want to make 100k from sales this year and you're recommending a path, which one would you say to get into?
Eric
Well, that's a different question.
Travis
Okay, we'll start with yours.
Eric
I was going to say water because that was the biggest margins that I had ever made. But there's obviously like there's a big range to those things because probably most people starting off as a salesperson in that industry are going to get paid a lot less than I got paid because I had five years of sales experience and I had a sales team to bring over and I had some negotiating power in getting a better comp plan. So it's not necessarily that that vehicle is better, it just was better for me at the time. The first 100 grand ever made was in alarms and then. And then switched to water purification and made over and made a lot more money in water purification on a lot less hours worked, if that makes sense. But if you're looking at it, I would look for things like short sales cycles, faster path to the money coming in.
Travis
Yeah.
Eric
Versus longer sales cycles. Like people have a misconception that just because the margin's better that means it's a better opportunity. And a lot of times that's not the case. Sometimes it's better to have like a lot of quick wins because in hundred percent commission sales especially, it's so much mindset that goes into it. So like the one that I never did for door to door specifically was pest control. And I sort of regret that a little bit because now I look back on it, it's like that actually makes a lot of sense to me in terms of the ability to continue knocking day in and day. So you're selling like higher ticket or you know, 20 year contracts on solar or whatever. It's just there's going to be more barriers to selling that. So you might be able to make more money over an extended period of time, but with fewer transactions obviously. But there's something to the idea that like you can go sell pest control and knock out three to five deals a day because it's just, it feels better. You just feel more accomplished at the end of the day which will probably keep you in that thing longer versus doing something else. But you're. The way that you phrase the question earlier though, I would say look for high ticket online sales just because you can do it in an air conditioning room. An air conditioned room. I've always lived in the desert so door to door was taxing just from like walking in 103 degree weather which also impacts your desire to go out on doors. Like there's just more barriers. And now with as many high ticket offers that are out there, you just gotta be careful because some of them are really scammy. Some of them are gonna be on a hiring spree and then six months later when their media buying team, you know, shit hits the fan on their media buying like they're, they're going to contract their sales force and let go of half their sales team and then you're just kind of like out in the wild wandering around looking for another place to go. So if you're going to do it, you know, try to find more reputable companies. Try to find companies that are doing you know, eight figures in revenue type of a thing. Unless it's just like a solo founder, you're the first sales guy, you can kind of help build the whole program out then that might be a little bit different. But yeah, I, I did a freelance sales gig after I sold my last company for two, three months and made like close to $70,000 in two and a half months in just commissions. But it was a strong company. They had a good inflow of leads, they had a strong sales manager, a good team in place like a lot of really like a lot. They checked off a lot of the boxes and they were selling Golf which to me was much less worrisome than selling like crazy high ticket business opportunity packages to like 72 year old widows cashing out their 401.
Travis
Little easier to sell people that are in a thing to be sold. Golf. Want to go golf?
Eric
Yeah, it's a little easier.
Travis
Well, hey, I know we have just like a few minutes left. I did find some great door to door content actually I can throw in here for you. Okay. Just found this account. I, I go to it sometimes for myself for inspiration.
Eric
Yeah.
Travis
And I figured you could watch a couple of these real quick.
Eric
Really good.
Door to Door Salesperson
Thought you were standing right there. I didn't realize. Wait, really quick.
Gary
I have an electric company.
Door to Door Salesperson
I figured you have electric. We just come around to check the rates because a lot of the bills are going up.
Eric
Thanks.
Door to Door Salesperson
All right.
Travis
Hello.
Eric
I don't understand why they put some of these out.
Travis
Did you like that one?
Gary
Nobody is born hating them.
Eric
Yes.
Gary
Hello.
Travis
Did you like that one? Here's the other one I liked, actually.
Eric
Was this the guy that only posts all of his failures?
Travis
Oh, this is a good one. This is really good. This is good advice because sometimes when you go knock on someone's store, they think it's just someone dropping an Amazon package, Right? So this is good advice. Ready?
Eric
Most.
Door to Door Salesperson
Most people on the first knock think we're Amazon or ups, so we gotta knock twice. But on rare occasions, they know who we are, and that's why they didn't
Eric
answer the door, which is me.
Travis
Did you like that one?
Eric
That's the whole video. I'm so confused.
Travis
Did you like that one?
Eric
No.
Travis
Okay, here, I'll do one more. You wanna do one more?
Eric
Yeah. This is really good stuff.
Travis
Let me see. This one's 20,000 views. Never say this to a customer.
Eric
Okay.
Door to Door Salesperson
A guy tell a customer's kids to tell a customer to tell their kids to be quiet. Would not recommend you do that.
Travis
That's good. That's good. Point.
Door to Door Salesperson
That does not work here anymore. This was a long time ago. We had a guy tell us.
Eric
That's actually good advice. That merits a video.
Travis
Let's do one more here. I'm going to blind. I'm going to scroll and click.
Door to Door Salesperson
We get sent out to check all the rates and programs that y' all got set up on the electric bill because a lot of the bills are going up. I just got to check a copy of the bill real quick, brother.
Travis
Okay.
Door to Door Salesperson
Appreciate you. You're at 16.4 cents a kilowatt. We're at 12.3. And we'd fix it at that for up to three years. And then we give you all $150 credit automatically applied to your second bill. I could do it for free. Don't cost anything. That sound better?
Travis
Yeah.
Door to Door Salesperson
All right. We get sent out to check that
Travis
guy works with them.
Eric
Yeah.
Travis
Pretend I'm at the door.
Eric
Yeah, but the good thing about that, though, is he didn't knock and give the immediate energy that he was a sales guy.
Travis
Yeah.
Eric
That's what a lot of people do.
Travis
Yeah, he was. He was in. He was deceiving him. Step one of door to door.
Eric
You want to be different than what the other sales guys sound like or look like. So we used to wear, like. Like vests, like.
Travis
Like a police uniform. Say, ma', am, I'm here with the law enforcement agency. We're here to come in.
Eric
But yeah, he did a good job with that. Did a good job of just assuming that he's going to grab the bill. But I would be curious to see what his next step was after that. That was, that was actually. That was a strong one. Some of these are just like, why is this even a video?
Travis
This one says bad timing, but my point still stands. Last one. Watch this real quick.
Door to Door Salesperson
Hope it's bad if I'm not busy. If I'm not on my tablet waiting, there's a high probability that they're going to be peeking through windows and doors and they're going to look at me while, while I'm waiting, if I'm standing at their door like this.
Eric
Okay.
Gary
Hi.
Door to Door Salesperson
Hello.
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Door to Door Salesperson
he would know where all that stuff is. Yep, no problem at all. Thank you. Well, that's funny. I didn't get to finish my sentence and she did not come to the door because of the way I was standing. So that doesn't count.
Travis
That was good stuff. Go ahead and close this out, I guess. Thanks for that. High quality content.
Eric
Yeah. Sales S tier. At the end of the day, it's
Travis
just, it's a great one for this guy. Sales S tier for being a sucker.
Eric
Anyway, that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got some money in the bank. So let's stop there. Here on the Travis Makes Money podcast.
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Eric
Catch you next time. Peace.
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Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Episode: Co-Host | Make Money Faster with These Beginner-Friendly Business Models
Host: Travis Chappell
Date: May 25, 2026
Guests: Eric (Producer and Co-Host), Gary (Recurring Guest/Soundbites)
This episode dives into the most effective and accessible business models for beginners to quickly earn their first $100,000. Travis and co-host Eric break down popular money-making pathways using a tier list ranking system, sharing hard-earned insights and candid experiences. They discuss side hustles, freelancing, agency work, content creation, and sales jobs, offering both practical advice and personal anecdotes. The tone is candid, motivational, and occasionally irreverent, staying true to the show’s vibe of empowering everyday people to make money without resorting to extreme cutbacks or get-rich-quick schemes.
Gary (on flipping):
"The key to flip life is the homework you do during the week that you fucking then leverage on Saturday when you kill it with your fucking knowledge." ([03:27])
Eric (on content creation):
"You want to make your first a hundred grand and you want to do it this year, it's less in your control. You're sort of at the mercy of the algorithms and at the beginning you're not, you're just not going to be good." ([08:22])
Eric (on sales jobs):
"You don't have the burden of having to [start] something from scratch and learn how to fulfill. You can just go sell for somebody else... And then you collect a check for what you sell. So it's like a siloed version of entrepreneurship." ([13:51])
Travis (on value):
"She was willing to pay him $5, but he wanted to do a job that was worth $5. And I always think about that stuff in context of the freelancing or the just everyday content." ([12:33])
Candid, playful, and packed with real-world commentary. There’s no glossing over the hard work, but there’s plenty of encouragement that ordinary people can make extraordinary things happen—without waiting a decade or sacrificing quality of life.
“Money only solves your money problems, but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got some money in the bank.” (Eric, [23:32])