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It is basketball season.
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Yeah, it is.
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Oh, yeah. March Madness. Yes, I knew that. March Madness. It's basketball season.
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So proud of yourself right now.
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What does it. Wait, let me guess. Which sports are not in season right now?
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Okay.
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Football's not in season.
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Correct.
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Baseball is not in season. Baseball's in season. Baseball is in season. Hockey's not in season.
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Baseball is almost always in season.
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Hockey's not in season.
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Hockey is in season.
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Hockey's in season. Soccer. Soccer's not in season. Baseball's in season. Mlb today, I don't feel like baseball stops. Right. I feel like baseball just goes 12
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games going on right now.
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That's so crazy.
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They play like 160 games or something like that a season.
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So I don't know how people follow baseball. My. My grandpa would, was. Would literally have the tv. He would have the TV on, muted, with the baseball game on, the radio on with that commentary for the baseball game.
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The same game.
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Yeah. Because he had some preferred one that
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was more like, interesting.
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And then he had those, like the pads where you keep the score. And he would sit there and track everything himself, too.
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That is pretty wild.
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Yeah. It's always weird to me when you go to a baseball game and you see the people sitting there with the notepads and they're marking, I'm like, what do you. They have people that do that? Would you ever do that?
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No.
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Not even for content?
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For baseball content?
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Yeah. You know, like when we do baseball
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content, baseball would be the least likely sport.
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Anyway, it's basketball season and so I have some good quotes from athletes.
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Yes.
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About finances and.
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Let's do it.
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Who's your favorite athlete?
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First of all, LeBron James.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, wait. Can I ask you this one more question? Have you seen the movie Goat yet?
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Nope.
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You gotta take your kid, especially because one of them's playing basketball. You need to go.
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I did see the preview. Is it out yet?
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Yeah. Oh, it's very good. And the trailer I didn't think was good.
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I didn't like the trailer.
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The trailer looked like generic and boring. Yeah, the movie is good.
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Really?
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I went because it's the people that did K Pop, Demon Hunters and the Spider man movies and those all ripped.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, this has to be better than the trailer. And it is very, very good. And you'd love it cuz you like, like basketball and all that. All right, here's the first quote. Let me know if you agree or disagree. And why you have to save at least 50% and never touch it during your playing career.
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Yeah, that's great advice.
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Every athlete does that. The stats are like most athletes keep their wealth forever.
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Right. I think that's right.
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Right.
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No, yeah, that's a great quote. And it should be what especially professional athletes live by. I thought, I thought for a second he was going to say like just a generic advice.
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But yeah, I mean, generic advice.
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Like I'm saying like to a, to
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a regular person, this is good advice for anybody if you can, if you can.
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Right.
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For like a period of time.
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But that's why I'm saying like for professional athletes in general. Yes, absolutely. Like at least 50% you should be saving.
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You know, I heard about this new thing recently where college guys are getting loans. We should do an episode on this. Something like college guys are getting loans when they sign contracts where people are giving them all their money up front but in exchange for like a certain percentage of their lifetime career earnings. It's like this very predatory kind of like, like we can give you your 3 million, we'll give you money now. Yeah, you give us 10%.
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Like a, it's like a payday advance, but in a huge.
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Yeah, but for like a 19 year old starting their MBA career, it's like imagine if you that with like Steph Curry, right.
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Would be a very good move. But also the majority of people will not become Steph Curry. So.
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But anyway, that's a new, that's like a new thing that's been happening that we should talk about. Anyway. Who said that quote, Magic Johnson. Oh yeah, you met him, right?
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I did meet Magic Johnson at a hundred million event. Yeah.
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Okay, here's another one.
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Client of Darren Prince. Our good friend Darren Prince.
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Yeah, this one is. I don't like having things. I invest in companies because that's better. I know you hate this advice. You're like, get that Gucci belt, homie.
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It's fantastic advice with the caveat that investing in companies for most people should just be investing in the S&P 500, not like angel investing in startups.
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Right.
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But yeah, I would agree with that. Who said that?
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Serena Williams.
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Great. She's.
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She's a legend, everybody. There was a video also recently. It was a tennis player being interviewed and they're like, you're one of the first tennis players to win such and such a thing in years. And he's like the first male tennis player.
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That sounds like Mike Tyson.
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You want to try to say that quote like Mike Tyson?
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Nope.
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In case you ever run into it.
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Exactly.
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I saw you on that podcast. That's Michael Jackson. I saw you. I saw you on that podcast. Why you say that? Why you say that?
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I did also. I did also meet, I did also meet Mike Tyson at one of those events.
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Here's some controversial advice. Don't take care of all your friends and family.
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That is some. That is controversial. But from the athlete perspective, I can see where this, whoever said this is coming from.
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If you sign and it's on ESPN, it's like they just signed a 15 million because, like we're so transparent.
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Yeah.
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What you're making.
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Well, especially because a lot of athletes aren't coming from families who have a ton of money and like goat like
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in the movie Go.
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Yeah.
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But can you also imagine too how many times you get hit up for like, bro, you got tickets to that game, right? Bro, you got tickets to the game. Well, you got tickets.
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You hit up for favors all the time. Yeah.
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So what do you think of this advice though?
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I think in general, yes, it's good advice because it goes against what, what people think that has, what people think has to take place when they get a big payday like that is that they, they feel almost obligated to be like, well, I have to give everybody money. It's like, yeah, but if you were, if you' really smart with your money, you could do that in a different way in the long term without. Exactly. Without.
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Without having to live in a tent or something in your backyard.
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Yeah. But you can, you can do both of those things. Just take care of yourself first and make sure that you understand how to manage your finances and you'd be able to help take care of your family. But then it's, it's sort of like the question of like how many degrees of separation are you responsible to take care of? You know what I mean? Like your five closest friends from high school that are now your entourage, they don't do anything, but they just kind of hang around and one of them is like, you know, the shoe shine attendant or whatever, just so you can have an excuse to pay them. And then you have like your great uncle who's now on your. You know what I mean? Like it, it's sort of, it, it's really easy to let that get away from you.
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Yeah.
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Where now you just have, you're just paying a bunch of people to hang out with you all the time because you want them to be on the come up. And it's like it comes from a really good place. But it also is not going to make that person feel any better about themselves internally. It's only going to solve the external problem. So you could probably figure out a way to do it without just totally screwing yourself. And then God forbid you get an injury, you don't get that contract extension that you were hoping for. And now all of your money would be given out to friends and family who went and bought a brand new Escalade instead of paid off their, you know, credit card debt. And now, now they just have more debt and now you don't have any money. Yeah, it could be. You can, you can lose your way down that path really quickly. So there's still a way that you can do both of those things without shooting yourself in foot. Who said that?
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I just switched to pull something else out. That is Warren Sapp, Bernie Kosar. Just to follow up, this isn't advice, but this is something he said about this. He said there's probably different times I was taking care of 25 to 50 families.
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That's wild.
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Which is crazy. More aspirational is this quote from Manchester United and Irish soccer legend George Best, who said, I spent 90% of my money on women, drink and fast cars. The rest I wasted.
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Sage.
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That's kind of a funny quote.
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Yeah.
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All right, here's. Here's another one. Oh, man, this one hurts too. Now I'm reading this article about quotes from athletes about their wealth. And Evander Holyfield said, I made $230 million. I ain't got no money. Now
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that is rough. The interesting thing about that is that no money is relative, you know, like, he probably still makes more than most of us just by doing appearances and signing autographs and, you know, a speech at this thing or whatever. Gets probably paid a lot for those types of things.
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But still, if you're measuring against.
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But when you're measuring against $230 million, that would be a bummer place to be, especially because, like, athletics are not like acting. You know, you can't just go get another gig. You know, like, Johnny Depp can go broke and then make pirates of the
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Caribbean 6 or do it $60 Savage perfume or cologne.
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But athletes don't really have that as an option as much. So you, you have to treat your money as like, you got to strike while the iron's hot. So work really hard when it feels really easy to make the money and then live your life on half of the lifestyle that you could actually afford and then just plow the rest of it. That's the beautiful thing about getting paid that high of a salary is like, it doesn't take that many years to set you and your family up for the rest of your lives. You know what I mean? Like, if you're getting paid 6 million a year to play a sport and you could put away 3 million of it, live off, you know, government takes half of it because it's a salary. You know, you don't get many write offs in that context. Government takes, you know, 1.4 million of the 3 million, but you live on 1.6. And then you invest the 3 million out of the 6. You know what I mean? Like, you do that for five years. It's like, well, you got $15 million in S& P just working for you. Compound interest working for you. Even if you never get another contract. It's, we're good now. You know what I mean? Like, we have a baseline. That's why I say, like, you can take care of your family. That's fine, but it's not going to be on the first time you sign a deal. Like, you have to make sure that you can fortify yourself financially before you start going around and handing out money to everybody that you love. Just because you were able to sign a deal, like you said, it would be really difficult to be fair to these guys, because if it's public news that you're. You just landed your contract of, you know, $15 million, then, like, everybody in your family's like, and money, please.
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And when it comes to lifestyle, too, when you have paparazzi taking picture, you walk out into your car like you want to look sick. You know, you want to look like you're wearing cool clothes. You want to be going. You want to be caught coming out of a cool club and not eating a big arch.
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That's like McDonald's, you know, that's become part of the look. You know, it's like you have, like,
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just walking in on game appearance. How much money are you spending on your, like, Gucci, right? You know, whatever outfit that you're wearing with your bucket hat, don't get caught in the trappings.
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It's like you can. It's like LeBron can do that because he's, like, worth a billion dollars.
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He's got that Space Jam money.
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He's got that everything he does money. But, you know, you're not LeBron. You're not Steph, you're not Michael Jordan, you're not Tiger Woods. Just be smart with the money that you're making right now, because it's not always going to be like that. And like I said, sports is the thing. Thing with sports is, like, injuries happen all the time that just end careers. And it's. As a fan, I hate even. Even people who are on teams that I hate, you know, I mean, who, like, I'll quote, unquote, hate this player just because they're really good and they play against my team. But, like, man, when you see an injury that just derails somebody's career, it's always a. Always a big bummer from a fan perspective. But if you're that person, like I said, it's not like acting. You can't just go get another gig after this. It's like, you're done, you know, so you're not going to get that big payday again. So if you squandered it away because it was the first taste you ever had of money, then that's it, you know, it's a wrap. So now you gotta Whatever. Go sell used cars or something like that. Or go be an insurance rep or get into sports management or be a coach of some overseas team or something like that. It's not. There's not a ton of options beyond that. So you get those paychecks, man. Like, be smart with it. Like, give your. Give yourself a number. You know, 10 million in the. 10 million in S P. 15 million, 20 million, whatever that number is for. You get to that number first, and then you can start taking care of people with dividends from the money that your money is making, not just taking all of your money and throwing it out at all the people that you. That you, you know, love.
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You know, I filmed for one time. I filmed for Michael Jordan. You didn't know that?
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Is that true?
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Yeah. It was Michael Jordan Nissan. It was his car dealership location. That someone.
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Well, that's not the same thing.
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It was in Durham, North Carolina.
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That's not the same thing.
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It was. I filmed for Michael Jordan Nissan in Durham, North Carolina.
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Michael Jordan.
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You almost. You almost crapped your pants when I said that. You're like, you've never told me you filmed Michael Jordan.
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I'm super upset about that.
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It was last week, dude. He said I could bring.
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Whoever would you be Jordan?
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You wouldn't talk to me. You'd literally be like, we're done.
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So upset. I would blacklist you from my life.
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That would be.
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What time has it been?
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It's clobber time, actually. Really funny.
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No, I wouldn't.
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I did get to go. I have. I did meet one celebrity athlete. And I knew it was someone. Oh, it was. And I. And I knew that you would feel sad.
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Wait, was this recent?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was in Vegas too. But you didn't go.
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I'm not liking chat.
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Chad Johnson Ochocinko.
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You did meet him?
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Yeah.
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For what?
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When I was filming. I don't remember why. I just remember going like, oh, I know him. Because in one of the NC or NBA lives, there's Like a thing about him. I was like. I was like, oh. I was like, oh, he's big. Or. Yeah, NFL.
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Madden.
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No, it was NFL. No, it was. It was Madden. I just remember going like, oh, he's like a real athlete celebrity. Because I know who he is.
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He is. Did you ever see that clip of him? I think it was on Stephen A. Smith's podcast talking about being too small.
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Oh, that's him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyways. Anyway, but I remember being there. It was on a golf course filming him. Why was I there anyway? And I just remember thinking like, this seems like Travis should be here.
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That does seem like Travis should be there. Thanks for the invite.
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What was that for?
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I don't know.
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It was like a.
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Two years I've never heard of this.
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Oh, it was, it was. Oh, it was for. It was for Manny.
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Oh, okay.
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That's right.
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Makes sense.
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That's. Why didn't you go to that?
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I don't know. I should have met him.
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I started being there, I was like, I know Travis would be way more enthralled. I was just like, it's kind of bright and hot out here anyway.
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Not take advantage of that opportunity.
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No. Yeah. Here's another thing that's been expressed and if obviously Jay Leno famously said, I never spent any money for my show, he said, I always lived off the stand up money, you know, so he always said, like, I took the big chunks from my show, which obviously Jay is doing very well now.
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He did okay.
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But it's been. That's been echoed by athletes like Deion Sanders who said, the money I make from football is my side money. The real money comes from my businesses. There was also. Who's the other fellow that said something like that? Oh, Deion Sanders also said, primetime money is side money. The real money is my businesses. That's what I just said. I just had the quote there twice. But he said it so good. It was so quote, so nice. You say it twice.
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I mean, that's the real move that. That's the real move to build businesses with the. Basically the personal brand authority that you have.
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Matt Barnes has that mentality too.
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Yeah, Matt Barnes has done to me in terms of like second acts for professional athletes. Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson are at the top of that list.
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I've never been so upset as when we were at Matt Barnes house. Don't you love saying little sentences like, yeah, remember when we were at Matt Barnes house, the one time I was so upset because he was like, oh, yeah, yesterday, Ice cube And Snoop were in here.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, why did we come today?
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Yeah. Because we were talking about lighting up a joint with them. It's like, I wouldn't smoke on camera, but if Snoop Dogg I would was here, I would.
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I feel like that's a pass.
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Oh, yeah, dude.
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For sure that's a pass.
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Even if I said some stupid and be like, what could I do? Like the snoo. Snoop Dogg pass me a blunt. What I'm gonna do?
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Have you seen that video?
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No, no, no. I don't smoke on camera.
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I think it's staged. But there was a video of him at a concert and the security guards there, and Snoop, like, hands it to him and security guard, like, take and like, what do you do?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Do it.
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There's been several, like, award shows and, like, roasts and stuff. That is like, smoking's technically not allowed in the entire building. But Snoop Dogg's just up on stage with a full blunt.
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It's crazy.
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If you're. If you're. If you're D O, double G. You can get away with that, though, you know, you can't just do that as a regular person.
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Here's one last one. This is not finance related, but it can be.
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Okay.
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It's not business related, but it can be. It's not personal development related, but it can be. It could apply to many things in life.
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Okay.
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I don't count my sit ups. I only start counting when it starts hurting.
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Sounds like a Bruce Lee quote.
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No, no, no. What do you think about that quote, though? You like that?
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Yeah, I like that a lot.
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Yeah. I stop when it starts hurting.
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Who said that?
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Muhammad Ali.
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I knew it was an old fighter. Yeah, it's a good one. That's a good one. Because that's the only place where the growth comes, especially when you're working out, is when you feel like some sort of pain.
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Yep.
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No, there's no growth without. Without the pain, so.
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But also, you shouldn't be in severe pain when you're working out.
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If you are, you can tell the difference. Yeah, you can tell the difference. There's good pain and there's bad pain. It's like. There's some pain. It's like, oh, that shouldn't be moving like that. And then there's other pain where it's like, I'm really tired and you just push through that.
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The other day I was at the park with my children child and I. They had those little spinny seats.
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Yeah.
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And I picked my legs up in the air And I spun as fast as I could and got dizzy, and I fell off and it hurt so bad. And I was like, this shouldn't hurt as bad as it does.
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You're such a millennial, bro.
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I'm so old.
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So old.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, it was very skippity things, definitely. That's a word that my son uses all the time. I know when I do feel like I get way more dizzy now, so so much faster.
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Because I used to when I was a kid, your friends would run like you get on the merry grounds and they run in a circle, and you could be like, I'm fine now. I'm like. I'm like Lucille, too. I got vertigo.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we'll go ahead and close this out. I know, I know. You've got a call with Snoop in a minute, so we'll go ahead and wrap.
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That'd be so cool.
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Yeah.
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You actually gotta get Snoop Dogg on the show.
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It's way worse than that. Like, on a scale of 1 to 10, the thing you're about to do versus calling Snoop is much less exciting. Way bad.
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Yeah. Anyway, that's it for today's show. If you happen to be an athlete listening to this, don't give all your money away. And don't spend it on dumb things, at least for a while. You know what I mean? Set yourself up for the rest of your life, and then you can spend money with passive income on whatever you want. But that's it for this episode of the show. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Travis Makes Money Podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time. Peace.
Episode: CO-HOST | Make Money Like an Athlete (Without Going Broke Like One)
Date: March 21, 2026
Host: Travis Chappell, with producer Eric
This episode dives into the financial lessons, mindsets, and missteps of high-earning professional athletes, and how these lessons can apply to "regular" people striving toward financial security and wealth. Host Travis Chappell and producer Eric use famous athlete quotes and personal anecdotes to debunk common myths, reveal the pitfalls that lead athletes to go broke, and extract actionable strategies for anyone seeking to build lasting wealth—whether or not you're raking in millions.
This episode arms listeners with athlete-tested financial wisdom: Enjoy your present, but plan and invest so you don’t become a cautionary tale—on or off the field.