C (1:48)

It's so good. Well, actually. Shut up. And also Warwick Davis, who is known for Star wars playing the Ewoks. He was in Willow, he plays leprechaun. And it's great. And I love these movies. And every St. Patrick's Day I watch them alone, eating ice cream.

B (2:06)

That makes sense that nobody will watch them with you.

C (2:08)

Tara likes some of them, actually. They're fun. Here we go. Ready?

B (2:13)

She's just trying to be nice.

D (2:16)

True love can be hard to find. For some it takes a lifetime. For him it took a thousand years. God bless you and now that he's finally found her, he's going to love her.

B (2:32)

I'm out. I'm back. This looks terrible. You watch the. Just not, like, unironically every year.

D (2:53)

Yeah.

B (2:56)

Ridiculous.

C (3:00)

I mean, they're horror comedy. They're not to be taken too seriously.

B (3:07)

I see.

C (3:08)

That's. Yeah.

B (3:09)

They're supposed to be. It's supposed to be parody.

C (3:11)

And then the best One is Leprechaun 4. This is the last one. We're going to do one more, and then we're going to get into the topic.

B (3:17)

I hate giving you control over what we do here.

C (3:20)

So the fourth one is in space. The fifth and sixth are, of course, in the hood.

B (3:25)

Leprechaun 4. In space. And then that is the problem with Leprechaun 1 through 3.

C (3:30)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (3:31)

Is that they weren't in space.

C (3:32)

Yeah. And then they did Leprechaun in the. In the Hood. Leprechaun in the Hood two. And then they did a WWE reboot of Leprechaun. And then they did a meta sequel to the first one. That was actually really good.

B (3:46)

I'm sure it was terrific.

C (3:48)

There's the in space one.

B (3:51)

Small though I am mighty is my spirit when bloody battle calls.

C (3:58)

Come on. This would be great to get drunk on St. Patrick's Day.

B (4:01)

No.

C (4:01)

Yeah.

B (4:02)

No. I would watch so many other things.

C (4:06)

Why?

B (4:10)

Still I fight off.

C (4:13)

He's in space, Travis. It's a leprechaun in space. Whoa.

E (4:20)

I am eternal as the sun.

B (4:22)

This barbecue's only just begun.

C (4:25)

He rhymes everything he says. It's a.

B (4:28)

It's great. Another reason to not watch it.

C (4:33)

You don't like Shakespeare?

B (4:37)

What? People fund these movies to get made.

C (4:43)

Yeah, they're great. He has a lightsaber in this one, too.

B (4:47)

That. Which is pretty great.

C (4:49)

Anyway, happy St. Patrick's Day. This episode is probably going to air in April, so I hope you guys enjoy that. Well, let me ask you. Let's get serious for a minute here, Travis. No. Look at the screen. You always spoil yourself. Do you love your kids?

B (5:02)

Weird way to say that.

C (5:04)

Do you love your kids, Travis?

B (5:05)

Most of the time.

C (5:07)

So what does that mean?

B (5:09)

What does love mean?

C (5:10)

What does that mean? Define it for me. No. You love your children.

B (5:14)

Yes.

C (5:15)

So that means you shouldn't be doing this right now.

B (5:19)

Correct.

C (5:19)

You should put. Shut your computer. Shut your computer. Go play with your children.

B (5:24)

That's right.

C (5:25)

Never do anything else but that. Right?

B (5:28)

Yeah. That we're agreed.

C (5:30)

Okay.

B (5:32)

Well, everybody, thanks so much for listening.

C (5:34)

That joke always works.

B (5:35)

It always lands. Anyway, well, perfect timing to watch this video. As the screen goes black, I want

C (5:40)

to get your take on this. I guess you can just listen to it. It's not going to show. This is Tim Grover. More like Tim Goat Ver because he's so awesome all the time.

B (5:50)

Also, he coached the goat, Michael Jordan.

C (5:53)

Oh, I was like Jeff Fenster. He was on his show. All right, you ready?

B (5:58)

Yep.

C (5:58)

Let me know if you agree and or disagree with this clip.

D (6:02)

Daughter came up to me when I was. When she was like 5 years old and says, daddy, why do you travel so much? I said, sweetheart, this is how I take care of the family. This is how I provide for you. This is how I take care of mom. This is how I put a roof over the head. This is how I put food on the table. She goes, daddy, if I eat less, will you stay? Or more. If this was a fairy tale, I'd have unpacked my bag. I'd have grabbed her hand. We'd have went out for ice cream. I kept packing. And then many years later, I sat down my daughter and I said, hey, I want to talk to you. And I wanted to discuss with her why dad is the way he is. And before I could even start, she was, dad, I understand. She said, I could see what you provided for mom and I. I could see the sacrifices you made for us. She goes, you taught me how to make the toughest decisions in life. She's not only taught me, you showed me. So sometimes when you think you're making the wrong decision or you have to making the toughest decision because you're thinking about somebody else and the consequences. If you think the price of winning is too high, wait till you get the bill from Regret. And that bill from Regret is generational.

C (7:13)

Well, what he left out of the story I saw the full clip is when he packed when she was like five. He didn't see her again until that meeting years later.

B (7:23)

He left that part out. He's like, daddy again when she was 27.

C (7:27)

Daddy's got to go get the milk.

B (7:28)

Yeah, but it'll teach you resilience.

C (7:31)

No, that's not true.

B (7:33)

Yeah, that part is not true.

C (7:34)

I can hear the lawyers knocking on the door right now. That's not true. Tim didn't do that.

B (7:38)

Yeah, and you can obviously tell that the dude loves his daughter like he his. It's like his voice sounds shaky even telling that story a little bit. What you don't often hear from Tim Grover, but that's sort of like the eternal war in my brain. After I had kids, I, I was, that I was not expecting because I just figured, like, there's a lot of people in my life that I love that and that I love spending time with, but it was also like. But I also still have to go do all of these things. I still have to rise up to the challenge that is life and provide the life that, you know, I, I want to provide for my family. But then when you have kids and when you get to that stage, the stage that he's talking about right now, where they start asking you to not go, that sucks. It's like, it's the. This episode of the show is brought to you by Mars Men. So look, guys, I don't know if everybody listening knows this, but a couple years ago I was diagnosed with cancer. And around that time I also noticed that my testosterone levels were dropping like crazy. And I know that some of it was due to the fact that my body was sort of in disarray. But then I also learned through this experience that most men start losing testosterone levels around the age of 30. And then it starts just getting worse and worse after that. About 1% every year after that. So what I learned during this is that basically your body makes testosterone, but a lot of it gets locked up and can't be used. So there's this protein called SHBG that basically handcuffs your testosterone. So even if your body's making testosterone, shg, SHBG locks it up so you can't access it. It's like having money in the bank, but your debit card doesn't work. So Mars Men is designed to help free locked testosterone so your body can actually use it. No synthetics, no needles, just real ingredients that help optimize energy, focus and strength. And since I've started taking stuff like this, I noticed increased physical performance, especially recovery in the gym, which as I am getting older, I'm starting to realize is a real thing. I, I have to like, stretch a lot more, I have to like take breaks more, I have to have rest days and things like that. And, and Marsman has helped me to be able to recover a little bit faster. Plus more consistent natural energy. It's different than having a cup of coffee or an energy drink or something. It's a steadier sense of drive throughout the entire day. It supports healthy T levels, energy and stamina with eight natural clinically dosed ingredients made in the USA and third party. Plus it's got a 30 day money back guarantee. So there is absolutely no risk to you. Worst case, you don't absolutely love it and you get your money back. But over 91% of users report higher energy levels. Thousands and thousands of guys are feeling incredible results from this. So just check out the reviews on the website to see for yourself. For a limited time, our listeners get 50% off. That's 5, 0, 50% off for life plus free shipping and three free gifts. MengotoMars.com that's mentioned GoToMars.com for 50% off and three free gifts. When you check out after you purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Just please support our show and tell them that we sent you.

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B (10:57)

the worst when you are about to leave for a few days to go do some business somewhere and then your kid is old enough to, old enough to be able to articulate this and young enough to still care enough to tell you that they don't want you to leave like that. That's, that's no fun. I, I will say like I've had, I've never had anxiety around traveling until I had kids because every time I leave them now it's like I, I feel, I feel like this internal, you know, battle that's like, man, I really want to stay here. And then I start getting like worried about the flight and everything and my, my, you know, thinking brain kicks in at some point and just goes like, well, this doesn't make sense because obviously there's, there's an episode of the, the wise and powerful spongebob where he gets afraid of, he has like an accident sandboarding or something and then he sits in and then he gets too afraid of ever getting hurt or injured that he ends up like barricading himself in his house and being against all forms of potential danger. And, and, and I picture it's funny saying this as a grown ass man, but that, that is like the analogy that comes to my mind immediately is because like that's the logic that you have to follow if you decide to do that. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm just, well, I'll just never fly again just to uncheck that box. And it's like, well, driving is more dangerous than flying. So you're just never going to drive again, you're never going to go anywhere again, you're never going to take any risks again, you're never going to go on an adventure again. You never like that's the opposite of the way that you're supposed to live life. So you just kind of have to accept that if something happens, something happens. And it was my time and whatever. But I will say that was something new. Being a dad that I wasn't expecting was this like anxiety that, that, that I never experienced before. Especially when it comes to flying across the country or going on long trips and my kids aren't coming with me. But also yeah, Tim, Tim nailed it like he usually does, which is that you still have to show them that this is my responsibility as a man. And even though it doesn't feel good for me to leave and even though I can't explain it in a way that makes sense to your five year old brain or your six year old brain, it does not mean that I can just give all that up and not go build this life for all of us. And then frankly you, you can just be grateful that you can be grateful that life looks different now than it did a long time ago and that you can fly across the country in a few hours and take care of business and come back a couple days later in a few hours again. Versus like Jackie and I are watching through Vikings right now and are they

C (13:40)

going to say Secret Lives and Mormon wives? Because there's something in there.

B (13:43)

Jackie' watching through Secret lives Mormon Wives. I what we've watching through Vikings together and they go on these raids, you know, to, to England and stuff and then come back to Scandinavia. But they're gone for like two years, you know what I mean? Like they gotta like jump in the ship. They have no idea if they're gonna come back because the storms in the sea could just destroy the, the boats and cause them all to wreck. And then if they successfully get over there, then they, they're literally engaging in hand toand battle and combat and a bunch of them are going to die doing that. Then they're going to steal a stuff, then they're going to take the same boats all the way back across that sea where they could potentially get shipwrecked again. You know what I mean? It's like they legit have no idea if they're coming back and there's a good chance that a solid percentage of them aren't coming back and they're going to be gone for like three years. So it's like, okay, well I think I can handle, you know, four days in Florida with a flight on either end. You know what I mean? It makes it seem a lot less daunting when you compare it to what men used to have to do to provide a life for their family. So. But yeah, it's your, it's still your responsibility. And the Bott line is kids will always learn more through what they see than they will from what you say to them. So that's always what I come back to, even, even in the sense of. I was having this conversation. Who was I talking to about this? Oh, it was, it was my buddy, my buddy Ed from acquisition. And we were talking about kids because I was asking him if he, if he wanted kids, and we're talking about that and he was talking about like, setting himself up to be in a position where he didn't have to like, work that much when he has kids and things like that. And I sort of like pushed back against the idea and was, and, and brought this up as a concept. Was just like, even if you're fully capable of being retired when you have kids, was just telling him, was like, I still view it as like your responsibility as a protector provider, leader of the home to, to show them that you're still working, that you're still engaging because you can shout it at them as much as you want. If you're like, quote unquote, retired in your 30s or 40s or something like that, and you have a bunch of money to make, you had a good company exit or something like that, you're smart with your money, whatever, you still want to show them that this is something that you are going to have to do and, and something that you should get excited to do, something that you should get fired up about doing because it's worth doing and because it's meaningful and because it provides not only for you and for your family and for the life that you want, but it also provides like fulfillment and meaning and, and contribution to the world around you. And even if you could theoretically stay home with your kids all the time and both parents didn't have to work, and even if you could do that, that's probably still not a good thing to do, you know? So, yeah, you, you, you got to, you got to go out and slay the dragon, you know, that's why you

C (16:28)

should never see your kids.

B (16:30)

That's why you should send them off to boarding school.

C (16:32)

So. Well, let me ask about that then. How much is too much?

B (16:37)

That's a really good question. That sort of has to be basis. Yeah, Yeah, I have the answer for this, for the, for the balance thing. I was talking to somebody else about this the other day. Some, some. Somebody I was playing basketball with at the gym. We're talking about work and kids and stuff. And he sort of asked me what, what my schedule is because he found out that I can kind of create, you know, my own, my own schedule and things. And that was one, that was one thing that we talked about was just like, look, man, I just think that it's all seasonal. Yeah, it's life calls for different seasons at different times. And so there might be some times where your planet is now marked for death.

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B (18:10)

And I'll have the conversation with Jackie ahead of time and just be like, look, the next like three or four months are gonna be like my, I gotta get my, I gotta keep my head down and I'm gonna be working a lot. So I really need your help with the kids. And then vice versa. There's been times where she's, you know, been busy with what she's been doing. She, you know, in the past had jobs that, where she would be gone for a few days. She used to do like private jet flight attending or she would travel across the country for an event or conference for the company she was working at. And then, and then even when we opened up the, the Everbowl store, the AC store, it was like when we were first launching that it required a ton of her time. So for those first, you know, four or five months that the store was open, I had to pick up a lot of the slack on her end because she was in the store and hiring and training employees and like getting things dialed in and turning it into a well oiled machine so that in the future I could get my head down again and start working and she could spend a little bit more time with the kids. And away from the store, which is now sort of what it looks like. So it's, it's always, it's always a little bit of give and take. The, and sort of the where I've landed on it is like it's seasons. Some seasons are like, are, are like this summer we're, we're doing two or three different trips with the kids. So it's more like, all right, well, in the meantime, before summer gets here, I'm also going to have to be in one of those busy seasons so that I can make sure that I work enough to be able to have all of our content going out and have all of our ads recorded and have everything completely dialed in so that when we're gone with the family, I don't have to take a ton of time away from them to go work while we're supposed to be on family vacation. I can spend time with them and be where my feet are there. But then I can't be where my feet are there at that point if I'm not willing to be where my feet are now at this point, which requires more work. So I don't know, man. Like, you know, I don't think anybody's solved this problem or figured it out completely, but I think everybody has to sort of build around the version of life that they want. With the only caveat being that I read a stat recently. Maybe you can pull this up on perplexity. It was something like you'll spend of. Of the total time that you'll ever spend with your kids, you'll spend like 80% of that time of with them before they turn 12 or something like that. It's, it's just the vast majority of the time that you have with your kids are going to be spent with them from the ages 0 to 12. So you as a parent, you have to look at that as a factor. You know what I mean? Like just, just sacrificing all time with your kids in order to pursue something that to me never line. Because that's not what I want out of life. I want to spend time with my kids and I want my kids to have memories with me as they, as they get older and know that I'll be there for them.

C (20:54)

So yeah, the 80% is a popularized estimate, but not precise. But the, the American Time Use survey says that average daily hours parents spend with household children. So waking hours as of 2021 under age 6, 6.5 hours total age 6 through 12, 5.1 hours total age 13 through 17, 3.4 hours total.

B (21:21)

And then obviously after that, and then after that, almost none.

D (21:24)

Never.

B (21:24)

You know, if you. If. Because things are going well, you know what I mean? Like. Like that. That's. That's like, best case scenario, you know, Best case scenario, you produce a. A free, thinking, you know, contributing adult member of society who goes out and slays their own dragons when they turn 20. You know what I mean? So, like, you want to set them up to be able to not have to have your time and attention all the time, because that's literally your job. But it also sucks knowing that that day is coming. So, you know, you don't want to. You don't want to. I just never want to be in a position where I'll look back and regret that I didn't spend enough time with them. So, yeah, there are probably things that I'm leaving on the table in terms of material success right now. There are things that I could be doing that I'm not currently doing of this past. This past week, it was south by Southwest in Austin, and I was going to go out to that, and I was going to carve out like four or five days to go. There was like a podcasting track inside of south by Southwest. I was going to go be a part of that, go meet some people, hang out, do a couple podcast interviews and things. And I just didn't want to. I was just like, I. I would rather. I don't know. I. I just don't. I don't feel like doing that right now. I. I'd rather spend this week at home with the family, with my kids, and hang out, and then, you know, I'll make up for it at some point in the future. But that was that. You know, it's just those decisions are just constant. And sometimes, sometimes I end up choosing to stay home with the kids. Like, this week is their spring break. So that was. If that was a contributing factor. It was like, they're going to be home, so I should. I want to spend a little bit more time with them than I normally do. But then another, you know, couple weeks from now, it might be the opposite of that decision, where it's like, well, I could stay home, or I could go out to LA for four or five days and get some podcast interviews under my belt and do a couple meetups and things like that. Well, then I'll probably make that decision at that point, because I made this decision this past time. But then it's like, again, wherever you are, be there. So if you're going to decide to stay home to be with your kids, then be with your kids. Don't be on your phone scrolling TikTok the whole time. And if you decide to. And don't feel guilty that you're not working. And then if you decide to work, then work. Don't be on your phone scrolling TikTok the whole time. And, and then wasting your time and. And not actually being productive when you're working. And then don't feel guilty for not being with your kids. So you just. You have to make the decisions, be comfortable with those decisions, and. And then, you know, weigh it against what your future regret index may be. Because that. That, that piece that, that Tim Grover talked about was. Was a thing that I think a lot of people don't take into account. And I think some parents might be upset with me about this, but I think that there are parents out there who use their kids as the excuse to not go chase their dreams or to not. That's like their. Their fallback to be like, oh, I'm a parent. I. I got kids, so, you know, I can't do xyz. It's like, well, you are actually, by doing that, potentially doing them a greater disservice, thinking that you're doing them a service, but actually doing them a disservice because you're not actually showing them what you're capable of. Not. You're not showing them what's possible. You're not. You're not. You're not displaying an example of what it looks like to chase after your dreams relentlessly. So, yeah, there's. There's a lot to be said there, and I don't have all the answers, but that's how I've kind of looked at it in my life.

D (24:42)

Right.

C (24:42)

Well, your kids are at the door, hungry. They have empty plates. They're standing by the door, and they're like, daddy, please feed us.

B (24:49)

None of that's true.

C (24:50)

Can you please. So maybe wrap up and give them. Give them a snack or something.

B (24:54)

All right, fine. Well, anyway, that's it for today's episode. I know that this probably isn't. This is not St. Patrick's Day when this goes out, but hope your St. Patty's Day went well.

C (25:03)

Maybe if we hurry.

B (25:04)

Enjoy.

C (25:05)

Send this off.

B (25:06)

Irish car bombs for me because that's what I'm gonna be doing. The drink. Yes.

C (25:11)

Watch it. Watch a car explode in your neighborhood tomorrow, and this ends up in court discovery.

B (25:17)

Be a crazy thing. Anyway, that's it for this episode of the show. Thanks for tuning in. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Catch you next time. Peace.

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