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You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by GoHighLevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast, which mission to help you make more money this episode. My Eric, My. My Eric, producer.
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My Eric.
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My producer Eric is in studio.
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Well, I'm here with my Travis. I'm going to go home. I feel uncomfortable. All right.
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That is the wildest thing you've ever said because the volume of things that you say that make me uncomfortable.
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I do. Believe it or not, I do have. Well, I used to have. I used to have friends. I used to have a friend that always would win at being more uncomfortable. And if you think, like, I'm too uncomfortable now, you should have seen me in high school before I had, like, moral and ethical boundaries because I thought I was thinking about some of the stuff that we used to say or the things that we do to, like, outshock each other.
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Yeah.
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And there was no limit.
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Except for the.
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Except for. Except, yeah. Except for this one friend who would just like always go to this level where you're like, I feel like I'm gonna get arrested for hearing that. But anyway, I have a clip here from. It's Dave Portnoy. Do you know who that is?
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I do.
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He's the founder.
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He's the guy that tries pizza of barstool sports. Oh, he does that.
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And he also tries pizza. He was on Shannon Sharpe's podcast. Dave Portnoy is divorced. Do you know that?
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Actually, I don't know.
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I mean, you're just. I mean, if you look at Dave Portnoy, that's a divorced guy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So anyway, so he was on his show and he said something that made Shannon Sharpe poop a proverbial brick. Are you ready to watch it?
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Yeah.
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Here we go. And also too, I will say, if there's at any point you want to. If there's any point you want to chime in, I can also pause it and you can say something if you feel inclined.
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Perfect.
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But if you don't feel inclined, I won't pause it. Okay.
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Okay.
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Do we understand the rules of the game?
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I do.
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Here we go.
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Is it true your ex wife have access to your bank account?
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Yeah.
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I told you, I trust her implicitly.
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I beg your pardon?
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Implicitly, I trust her. If she wanted to take it, she could. There's very few people that you meet where you can trust implicitly. And to be honest, she was there when we were living at the in laws house. She was there when we couldn't afford a hamburger. She was there through the grind. She, to me, just like we, we kind of separated when we started making it. So she doesn't get to enjoy any of that, right? To me, that's not right.
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Wow.
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I'm a loyalty guy.
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You are a boy. You saw for real. I don't know too many people doing that.
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Oh, it surprises people. But she could, if she wanted to do something with it, she could have done with it a long time ago.
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If your ex wife. Is she married? She remarried.
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I think they, yeah, they just had a kid.
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Your ex wife? Oh, no, I thought it was break. No, I'm talking about. No, your ex wife. Your ex wife.
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She's dating somebody.
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Boyfriend.
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Are you cool with that?
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Yeah, I want her to be happy.
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It's true.
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But then she got, she can't get no access, Dave. She got to, got to cut off. Cut a. Cut off. Cut a little.
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I won't even notice if it's gone,
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which is a baller thing.
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You mean to tell me she might, she might.
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I mean, if she takes it all.
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No, no, no, no. But she might take like. You know what? I'm gonna have this, I'm gonna have this extravagant wedding. I'm gonna spend, you know, half a million on a wedding. You cool?
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Yes. 100%. 100%.
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Oh, have mercy. You won't.
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Kids?
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No, I hate kids.
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That's a good place to end, that's all.
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That's a whole nother conversation, which you've had, and that always gets good views. So maybe we should have a conversation anyway. What's your take on that clip?
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I like, I like what Dave said there.
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Do you wish that you were Dave Portnoy's ex wife?
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Yes. Okay. Yeah, that would be, that'd be nice.
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You wish you were his next wife?
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No.
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Based on what he said, I would think the next wife would probably have to sign a prenup.
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Yeah, yeah, it seems that way. But that's my point though, is that's why I like that. I like that take. I don't know. I don't know if it'd be like unbridled access to like, my bank account versus maybe having a different account.
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Jackie, can you come in here for a second?
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But Jack and I have talked about that. Yeah, I, I, I don't feel like I would have any issues cutting everything, like if, if something happened like just cutting everything in half. And like, like you said, she was with me through everything. Like we've been together since I was 16. So she deserves all the stuff that we have. Like we built it all together. You know what I mean?
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So I, I, this is the kind of clip that a lawyer plays during
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a divorce when shit hits the fan.
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When you're like not feeling like that.
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Yeah.
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And then he's like, did you say you would freely give her half of your assets? Your Honor, I rest my case.
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But yeah, I, I, I, I do believe with, in that philosophy that that's why I, it's hard for me to give advice on prenups and things like that because I just, we didn't have, I, I, I frankly probably didn't even know what a prenup was now that I'm thinking about it until I was like in my 20s. It never was even a word that was.
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Well, because you don't get divorced.
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Yeah, right.
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Christianity.
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Right. But, but that's like my, my what I think about it is what my philosophy would be at this point is like if you, if you did build a lot of the stuff on your own, then I think it'd be smart to have a prenup regardless of how much you trust the person. Because like I've said a couple times before, it's like you have a prenup regardless of if you have a prenup or yeah, it's just one of them is written by the state and the other one's written by you. So you may as well have some even if you want to give similar things to what the state would, would do. It's just that you probably want to have a little bit more control over that and both. It's like entering into a business partnership. Chime is changing the way that people bank. They offer the most rewarding fee free banking that's built just for you, not the 1%. Chime members can benefit from up to $1,150 in annual rewards fee free. It's rated five stars by USA Today for customer service because you get real humans 24. 7. You're not just switching banks. You're upgrading to America's number one choice for banking with a Chime checking account. Plus you can get up to 5% cash back on a Chime card. In your category of choice, like gas or groceries, you get savings that grow even faster with 3.75% APY, which is nine times higher than the national average. Plus you get premium travel perks like airport lounge access and 247 travel concierge included with your Chime card. You can even get up to $500 of your pay when you save with my pay. They also have Spotme which lets you overdraft up to dollar fee free. I know my younger self would have benefited from this. Chime is not just smarter banking. It is the most rewarding way to bank. So join the millions who are already banking fee free today. Head to chime.com travis that's chime.com travis only takes a few minutes to sign up right now.
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disclosures like if you're going to partner with somebody in business, then you want to have all those things dialed in. Like what happens if one of us loses interest? Do I buy you out? Do you buy me out? Like, you have to think of the potential, you know, the potential for the relationship to head south. Even if it's not in a nasty way, even if it's not in like a hateful, spiteful way. And again, even in a business partnership, even if it's not like, oh, this person screwed me and took all the money in the account or that type of thing, it's more just like, hey man, look, I like working with you. We have a good thing going. I just like I'm, I'm feeling my attention pulled in this other direction. I don't feel like I could give 100% to this thing. What do we do now? And that if you don't have it already pre agreed upon, then it's just going to introduce a lot more complexity and make it less likely that you're going to be able to navigate that split in a way that's going to be amicable for both parties. So I do think that it's probably a good thing to have. But like I said, in my opinion, like if you're starting, that's one of the, that's one of the, the pros of getting married as young as, as you and I both, you know, entered into marriages is that you do get to build everything together. And it's like there's obstacles in that path, of course, like I don't recommend it to most people because of the volume of obstacles that exist. Like, you're. You're. You're constantly changing throughout all of life, but you change a lot from age, you know, 15 to 25. And so if you get married when you're as young as we were, there's just a high degree of possibility that it's not going to work the way that you wanted it to work. But. But the pro of getting married that young is that we literally did. We built. We built everything. Everything that we have is stuff that we built together. So I wouldn't feel like I would be in a position to be like, no, screw you. I worked that. Like, that's my money. Like, I did that. And that's from, you know, my parents help was we did that thing and, like, just. I don't know. You're either a team or you're not a team.
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Yeah. It is one of the things that's hardest about giving marriage, which basically, I feel like I know enough about marriage and relationships now to not give advice very often. Yeah. Because I, you know, enough to know
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that it's not a one size fits all.
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Yeah. But that's what I was gonna say is like, that's what's so hard about giving advice is like, all the things that have made my marriage strong, or like the things you referenced where it's like, you go through these obstacles and you do that. It's like, I don't know that I would advise someone to go through those things. But also, I wouldn't have traded going through those things because they made the relationship stronger. So it's kind of this thing of, I don't know, there's so many layers beyond that where it's like, once you start saying, don't do X until you do Y, don't get married until you've got six figures in the bank account. Or don't do. Or don't focus on that. Get married and have more kids than you can afford. I don't think that's generally good advice. It's like. But I think a lot of times there's like, the survivor bias of, like, my relationship looks really good, so we'll do this.
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But for every one of the relationships like ours that have worked out, getting married as young as we did, there's probably, you know, we're probably the two out of the ten.
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Yeah. I have, like, one friend who's still married.
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Yeah.
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And it's Rocky. I'm just kidding. It's. It's not it's not scoring strong.
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But yeah, that's the. That's the hard part about giving advice about any of these things. Which is. Which is the bummer part about the polarization of content on the Internet.
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Well, it's the same thing as like, don't give unfettered access to your bank account to every ex wife.
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Yeah, right.
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You know what I mean? Like, that's a thing.
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That's not a good rule of thumb. You know what I'm saying?
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Well, Dave Portnoy said. Yeah, exactly. I should give.
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Exactly. It's hard to. Because you want to give advice kind of based on the data and the stats. But also, just because it didn't work for 73% of people doesn't mean that it.
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That's what I say when I gamble. Just because everyone else is losing in this casino doesn't mean I'm not gonna crush it.
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We didn't. We didn't lose.
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We didn't.
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We sat down for like 20 minutes.
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Yeah.
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And we. And we won. Yep. And we got some pizza.
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Oh, dude, we did.
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The pizza was good.
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I spit pizza on you.
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You did.
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Because I was laughing. He said, jesus Christ. And then I said, see ya. This I felt, I was like. I was like, things are going so well. And then it was that last moment, I was like, damn it. I always thought, I thought about that.
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For the next few days.
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I spit pizza on Travis.
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I literally forgot about it until just now, so.
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Oh, thanks for bringing it up. Glad I brought it up when you're sober and can remember it. No, I was curious your take on this because I've talked to my wife about this too, where it's like when you start with nothing and you can't afford a cheeseburger as an example, we would fight over it. We'd put the burger in the middle of the table and just fight. Not true. But it is one of those things where I think a lot of times it's like you can go into the, like, I'm a self made person and I got to this point and then it's like when you have that person that's like in the supportive role helping you do that. It's always weird to me when guys are like this entitled woman, I gotta send a. You know, I don't know. So I was curious what your take was on it.
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But I mean, that could also be the nature of their relationship, you know what I'm saying?
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Of them. Spite of them.
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I grew to this exactly where if they're draining the bank account and Buying a bunch of stuff and you're out working, and they don't do anything. And, like, And. And vice, regardless of which role is taking that position. You know what I mean? Like, if. If it's the woman or the man who's out working and slaying the dragon, so to speak, bringing home the bacon, and then the other person's just kind of sitting at home and then spending money all day, and it's like, well, they've been siphoning money from me for the last eight years, and now I have to. Now, because now I have to. Now I'm contractually obligated to pay them every month for a period. Like, I do think that there's. There's. It just. It's so. It's so nuanced because every relationship is so wildly different, but for me in particular, because she's been constantly supportive of all this stupid, crazy stuff that I've done. It's just. To me, it makes sense. Like, we were in this together, and we've built everything that we have together. So why wouldn't you be entitled to half of everything?
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Do you. What do you. What would you say to, you know, like, spouses who are. And again, prenups affect both parties, but I'm saying, what would you say to spouses who are like, oh, I'm being asked to sign a prenup early on. Like, should I be worried about that? Because, like, I mean, we all saw the housemaid. You know, there's extreme examples where you sign that prenup, you're leaving with what you came in with. You know you saw the housemaid, right?
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I did.
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We all saw the housemaid. Everybody did.
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Yeah.
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And I read the book. We read the book.
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No, I read the book. Okay, good for you.
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Twice. No, just once. Which is more than you.
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That's true.
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I read it twice as much as you.
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That's not true.
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Once as much as you can't.
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Twice as zero.
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I don't know. Oh, yeah, Multiplication. Anyway, what would you say to people who are offended by the idea of, like, hey, whether it's in a marriage where it's like, sign a prenup, or in a business where it's like, hey, we're best buds. We're starting a business. Like, fill out this paperwork. Like, what would you say to those people?
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Yeah, my personal position is that you, like, you should not take offense to that. And it does not mean that they don't love you. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't mean that they don't trust you. It just is a smart thing to do for both parties because it also will. You know, maybe it's the. Maybe it's the thing that makes you realize you don't want to be in that relationship. Then, like, even if you're negotiating the potential, like, what would this look like if this happened? Even though neither one of us believe it's going to happen, we're in this for the long haul. We trust each other, we love each other. But then you can't even get through the one difficult conversation that you've ever had in this relationship. You know what I mean? Like, you've been butterflies for the last two years, and now you're about to get married, and then they're like, hey, I want you to sign this prenup. And then you're like, okay, fine. Exactly. Exactly. You start talking through stuff and you go like, wait a second. You. You genuinely think that about me, or you think that I'm not entitled to this thing? And you might find that you start uncovering things about that person that you have never been able to uncover through the surface level relationship that you've had. So I think it's a worthy exercise. And again, even in business partnerships, too, it's. It's a worthy exercise to go through and be like, what happens if this happens? What happens if that happens? What do we do about this thing? You know what I mean? So it's still smart to go down those. That thought experiment before you have to go, before you're forced to go down it. Cause like I said, once you get to that point, it becomes really difficult to have this. Any sort of amicable split and maintain any sort of respect for each other once it's done. So, yeah, I'm a fan of at least having those conversations.
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Yeah, it's like going on the holodeck in Star Trek and you do the simulation first before you do the mission.
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Yeah, yeah, right. Right. Yeah, right. Exactly.
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If we get divorced, I keep all the Star Trek stuff.
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How'd you work that one out?
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Tara said, I want it in writing. You'll take this with you when you leave. I'm just kidding. I did. I will say this. I was putting away. Speaking of leaving things to loved ones, I was putting away all of my. I don't want to say all this. No, I do. I was putting away. I don't care. I'm just kidding. I'm going to fake shame. I was putting away all of my figures, my pop figures and my other collectibles that I have and I was putting them in this organizer in my closet, and I turned to my daughter and was like, just think, when I die, this is all yours. She'll appreciate it.
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Someday.
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I think she'll be stoked about, like, two items right now. But there's half of my items she can't see. Yeah. I was literally putting away.
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I was like, everything your eyes sees on this shelf.
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It actually made me belong to you. It actually made me laugh because I was putting away this Carrie Pop figure, and I'm putting it away, and then I'm thinking, when I die, my daughter is going to have to go through a cardboard box of just the most random, like, oh, great, a Van Helsing figure from the 1972 Dracula movie. I wonder how much I can get on ebay for that.
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Or whatever exists at that time.
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Just last, humor me. What is the. What is the strangest thing if you were to die today that you'd be leaving behind for your family?
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The strangest thing?
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Yeah. Is there anything that's like.
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I mean, maybe my Star wars helmet?
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Yeah, dude, I'm gonna get that.
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Because I'd be so pissed if you're
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leaving that to me.
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Jackie was like, wow, no need for this anymore.
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Yeah, that's like, you gotta hold on to that.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Because in a couple years, I gotta
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put that in the will.
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Yeah.
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You must hold on to this and not sell it.
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Selling Obi Wan. Yeah, you must.
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You must.
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Yeah. That's a weird one. I could see them fighting over.
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Totally.
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That's gonna be what destroys your kids
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relationship in about 30 years. If I can get them interested in Star wars right now. They're still not on the movie.
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Star wars hasn't. My daughter's super interested in the Mandalorian movie.
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Oh, is she?
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But other Star wars shows.
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You watching Mandalorian at all, though?
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No. A little bit. We watched a little bit the first season. That got a little. At the time, it got a little bit too much for the age. Now it would be fine, but she just loves Episode six and won't watch anything but that.
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But I've never heard that.
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That's fine.
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That's a good question. Is, when do you introduce your kids to Star. How? How?
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I tried to wait till about.
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I've also tried to wait, but I
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started at like 2. It's like, here. Yeah, here you go.
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Well, we literally. So cam was born May 5, and I was like. When I knew the due date, I was like, crossing my fingers. I was like, he's gonna be a Star wars baby. We decked out his. His entire room that he came home to was all Star wars room. Like, Star wars themed and everything like that. Then he was born on May 5, so he's a single de mile baby instead of a May the fourth be with you.
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And the disappointments just started there.
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And to this day, he still has not watched any of the Star wars things with me trying to get him into, like, Clone wars, you know what I mean? Like, some start with some animated series or something like that, but then he'll want to, like, play with lightsabers. And I'm like, nope, I'm not playing lightsabers with you, buddy. You don't even know what you're talking about. It's like you have to invest in the lore.
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That's like when my daughter's like, do you want to play Star Trek? I'm like, you can't even tell me what class this ship is, so. No.
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Yeah, you're using the Force wrong.
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Anyway, I just got a message the lawyers downstairs. Jackie needs you to sign a postnup. So get you out of here.
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That's how it works.
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They have postnups?
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Isn't that just a divorce?
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No, they have postnups.
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A postnup?
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Yeah, you just sign it post getting married. That's a real thing. I know that from, like, all the trash reality shows I watch, because then it's always contra. Imagine going to your spouse after getting married and be like, hey, can you sign this now? Because then they have all the leverage.
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That feels more like I'm preparing for divorce than a prenup does.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right. Get us out of here.
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Anyway, for those listening, thanks for tuning in. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank. So let's solve that one first here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Catch you next time. Peace.
Episode: CO-HOST | Make Money with Marriage, Prenups & Building Wealth Together
Host: Travis Chappell
Date: May 11, 2026
This episode dives deep into the intersection of relationships, marriage, and personal finance, focusing on how couples can (and should) approach wealth-building as a team—along with thoughtful, nuanced conversation about prenups, division of assets, and the challenges and rewards of building wealth together from scratch. Travis is joined by his producer, Eric, for an honest dialogue that blends humor, personal stories, and level-headed financial advice.
The episode strikes a balance between laid-back humor (often nerdy, always self-aware) and thoughtful, sometimes vulnerable honesty about money, trust, and the complexity of long-term relationships. Travis and Eric steer clear of hardline positions, instead emphasizing adaptability, transparency, and communication as the foundations for handling finances—whether through prenups, shared struggle, or just good old-fashioned honesty.
Key lesson: There’s no one-size-fits-all formula for merging love and money. What matters is open communication, mutual respect, and planning for all possibilities—even the uncomfortable ones.
For listeners:
If you’re thinking about building wealth with a partner, considering a prenup, or just want to hear real talk about what actually works in marriage and money (without the guilt trips or billionaire hustle culture), this episode is for you.