CO-HOST | Make Money Without Losing Your Happiness (and Your Pizza Night)

Summary

Podcast Summary: CO-HOST | Make Money Without Losing Your Happiness (and Your Pizza Night)

Podcast: Travis Makes Money
Host: Travis Chappell
Date: February 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode unpacks the balance between making more money, personal wellness, and happiness—challenging the “all-or-nothing” mindsets around health, finance, and enjoying life’s pleasures (like pizza night). Travis and his producer Eric dive into viral happiness insights, gym culture, and the dangers of chasing extremes, urging listeners to optimize for a well-rounded, joyful life—not just the appearance of success.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lighthearted Banter & Relatability

• The episode starts with banter about animated movie characters and pizza, grounding the discussion in warmth and everyday life.
  • Travis and Eric joke about who they resemble from animations like Inside Out 2 and Tangled. (00:27–04:15)
  • Sets up the episode's less judgmental, more human approach to personal improvement.

2. Clip: Arthur Brooks on Happiness & Health Optimization

Featured Topic: Arthur Brooks' research on happiness, specifically that the happiest men over 40 are 25 lbs. overweight—not from food, but from being relaxed about life.

• Quote:

  “The happiest men over 40 are 25 pounds overweight... It’s because they’re relaxed about their lives. It’s more important...to eat a slice of pizza with your wife.”
  —Arthur Brooks clip (05:27–05:57)

• Discussion:

  • Happiness is not about optimizing a single variable (e.g., health to the extreme, or money to the extreme) but balancing several (06:07–06:29).

  • Many influencers’ one-size-fits-all solutions miss the complexity of real life.

  • Practical takeaway:

    “You have to optimize across more than one variable...abs, joy in your relationships, spiritual transcendence...You’re trying to optimize simultaneously. None of them is all—just for that.”
    —Arthur Brooks via clip (06:07–06:30)

3. The Pizza Debate:

• Segment on favorite (and least favorite) pizza spots as a metaphor for small pleasures:
  • Travis laments his neighborhood pizza joint closing and rails against Papa Murphy's (“worst decision for family pizza night” - 07:13).
  • The pizza debate turns into an analogy about spending money for time and experience, not extra labor at home.

4. When Health Pursuits Become Unhealthy

• Discussion about how often the people who appear the healthiest are, in reality, sacrificing true health for appearances (08:58–09:44).

  • Bodybuilders’ extreme routines are dissected.

  • The pressure young men, especially, feel to get big at any cost—including unhealthy dietary restrictions at a young age (10:18–11:47).

  • Memorable story:

    • Travis recounts a friend’s teenage son refusing family-cooked carbs while traveling abroad.
    • Travis notes:

      “I would never discourage my son from pursuing excellence...But for a young man’s age, avoiding carbs is probably not a great move...You need stuff to burn off.” (10:29–11:26)

5. Parallels Between Fitness and Finance

• Eric draws a direct comparison:

  “It’s sort of like the pursuit of money. If you pursue money for the sake of having money...that’s when it crosses into greed...It’s sort of the same thing on the health perspective...” (12:03–13:19)

• Both agree: Chasing an aesthetic or bottom-line number, regardless of the cost, is self-defeating.

6. Media Perception, Steroids, and Authenticity

• The hosts discuss how Hollywood and fitness influencers set unrealistic standards.
  • Example: Hugh Jackman in X-Men versus real-life transformations (16:22–19:37).
  • Travis shares his conscious choice to avoid enhancements like TRT or peptides:

    “I want the results to be something people can achieve and attain, not something...unattainable...That’s why the whole Liver King thing was a perfect example...” (15:36–16:22)

7. Work-Life-Money Balance Doesn't Mean Segmentation

• Refuting the idea of “work-life balance” as tidy 8-hour blocks.
  • Real living requires being present (at the park, reading, on social media) and sometimes blending passions and obligations (14:21–15:34).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The happiest men over 40 are 25 pounds overweight...it’s more important...to eat a slice of pizza with your wife.” —Arthur Brooks, clip (05:27–05:57)
• “I want it real floppy with chewy.” —Travis (08:38)
  (in response to his ideal pizza, used as a running gag for comic effect)
• “If you pursue money for the sake of having money, that’s when you can start really crossing the line into greed...It’s sort of the same thing on, on the health perspective.” —Eric (12:07–13:19)
• “You can't replace the process for the goal, or you start doing a bunch of stuff that's probably not optimal for you long term.” —Travis (22:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:27–04:15: Banter about animated movies and character lookalikes
• 05:27–06:30: Arthur Brooks clip on the happiness/health tradeoff
• 07:13–08:14: The (heated) family pizza night debate
• 08:58–09:44: Fitness culture and unhealthy health pursuits
• 10:18–11:47: Teenagers, gym culture, and food choices
• 12:03–13:19: Parallels between greed for money and physique
• 15:34–16:22: Why Travis avoids “enhanced” health supplements
• 16:22–19:37: Hollywood physiques and behind-the-scenes effort
• 21:00–22:10: Final reflections on balancing goals and well-being

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• Optimize for life, not just one area: Don’t sacrifice your happiness, relationships, or long-term health chasing the perfect bank account or physique.
• Savor simple pleasures (like pizza night): Allowing minor indulgences can be part of a happy, sustainable approach to life.
• Authentic self-improvement: Pursue personal growth and wealth in ways that are sustainable and true to yourself. Avoid the traps of extreme hustle culture or aesthetic obsession.
• Remember:

  "Money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you've got money in the bank."
  —Travis (22:10)

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For further resources:
Check out Arthur Brooks’ book on happiness and Travis’s daily episodes for more actionable, nuanced advice that’s as much about enjoying life as it is about succeeding.

Transcript

[A]

You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Travis Makes Money podcast where it's a mission to help you make more money. Today on the show in studio with my producer, Eric has pulled up a clip or two to talk about.

[B]

Can I just say, you're really brave.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I like that you're letting the beard be a little shorter than the mustache.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Just a little bit. You know, you kind of look like. Is the dad in Inside out too? Can I tell you something funny about that?

[A]

I just watched that, so stop.

[B]

My great movie.

[A]

It is a great movie.

[B]

Great movie, Great movie.

[A]

It's one of the ones I push my kids to when it's like, movie night.

[B]

Yeah, it's a great movie, dude. Oh, my God. I've told you. Soul is like my favorite Pixar movie, right?

[A]

Never seen it.

[B]

Dude, the other day, I, I, that movie wrecks me every time I watch it. Like, I like, I, I ugly cry with that movie, but which I don't do for most. I'm not like somebody that cries at movies. Yeah, but that movie, like, I was, I was working. I'm tearing up now thinking about it. I was the other day, I was working and we have like a loft that's like open and so you can hear whatever someone's watching downstairs to. Sometimes you're like leaning over the seat, but I was like, I'm not gonna look. I don't want this, this plan. Dude. I started crying. I was hearing the music.

[A]

Because you knew what.

[B]

I knew what was happening. And I'm hearing the music and I was like, oh, my God. Like, Pixar's gotta stop. I put my headphones in. I was like, this is emotionally wrecking me.

[A]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[B]

The only other movie that. Since we're talking about it, since you brought it up.

[A]

Since I brought it up.

[B]

The other, the, the one movie you should watch. If you don't cry during this movie, you're a sociopath. We live in time with Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh. Have you watched that movie? No, dude, we were, we were watching. It's these. It's probably the saddest movie I've ever seen in my entire life.

[A]

It's a hard pass for me, but.

[B]

No, wait, wait. But listen. You know you always say, like, things are really things that are really awesome are also really not awesome. Yeah, it's like it captures the best things about life and the worst things. And it's like. But like it's called we live in time. And so it's like non sequential. So it's like literally or non linear. So it'll go a really incredible. Like here's how we met. So funny. You're laughing and then it's like, holy cow. Like, this is so sad.

[A]

I do like Andrew Garfield.

[B]

You should watch it. This is really legitimately. It's like one of those movies. I'm like, it's a perfect movie. But we were watching and I was like sitting on the chair and my wife was in the couch and I was like, we were watching and like it was two thirds through and we're both like tears flooding in our face and we looked at each like it just needs to stop. They got stop doing this. But anyway, all that to say, you look like the guy from inside out too. Like his chapel ganger. Like the ugly version of him.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

And, but, but I had a guest on my podcast who looked identical. Like looks exactly like that character. And I DM'd him. We're not like super tight, we're just acquaintances. But I just sent him a picture of the dad from inside out too and said like, it's you. And he just said, haha.

[A]

That was all.

[B]

And we haven't talked since then.

[A]

So who's the animated character that you look the most like?

[B]

Me?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, have you ever gotten Smee from Peter Pan? I do always think that whenever your shirt's a little too small and you pull it down, I'm always like, smee. No, if I, I mean who I. Who I think I look like? No, the person I look like the most is Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift, the main guy in that I look identical. Like, like.

[A]

Oh yeah, we talked about that before.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, when I was in high school. That was like the one like literally, if you showed me the right picture and I didn't know where I was from, I'd be like, oh, that's me. Right.

[A]

Anyway, yeah, beardless.

[B]

You all that to say I have a clip I wanted to show you.

[A]

Mine is Flynn Rider.

[B]

No. What the heck?

[A]

Like a. Literally when that movie came out, I had so many people tell me that.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You look like the scary old mom in that movie. You know, never mind. Anyways, okay, so I have a clip for you. Has nothing to do with anything. We just talked about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's how we like to do it around here. All right, but here it is. You know this guy, right? Is his name Arthur Brooks? Yeah, Arthur Brooks. He did the happiness stuff, but he has a clip on Dr. Mike's show. It's not finance.

[A]

Wrote a book on happiness with Oprah, I believe.

[B]

But I wanted to get your take on this overall thing because you. You've got abs, right?

[A]

I mean, we all have abs.

[B]

Shut up, Travis. Some of us are Smee, and some of us are Flynn Rider. You know what? I'm not gonna keep putting myself down for people's amusement. I like me. I like me. I turn to John Candy from Planes, Trains, Automobiles every couple weeks. I like me. My wife likes me. Anyway, that is our dynamic. Actually, I just thought, steve Martin. You're Steve Martin. But. But at the beginning of the movie, before he learned his lesson. Movie, that's you.

[A]

Robert Downey Jr. Zach Galifianakis.

[B]

That's a great. It's a great movie, too.

[A]

It's basically the same movie.

[B]

All right, here you go.

[C]

In over 40 hours.

[B]

So he said the happiest because Instagram's players messed up. He said the ins. He said the happiest men over 40 are.

[C]

Are 25 pounds overweight. And. And I don't want that to be true. It's not because of the food. Gentlemanly paunch.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

It's because they're relaxed about their lives. If you're 61 like me, and you've got washboard abs.

[B]

He looks great, by the way. He does. Yeah. He looks really great. For 61.

[C]

Making a big sacrifice for that. And that sacrifice might not be a healthy sacrifice for you, and that's actually worth keeping in mind because it's more important for you to actually, you know, eat a slice of pizza with your wife.

[B]

Yeah. How do we reconcile the fact that being the happiest can sometimes mean not being the most optimally healthy version of yourself?

[C]

Well, so you remember when you studied math in college, right?

[B]

You.

[C]

You have to optimize across more than one variable. You've got your abs, joy in your relationships, and you've got spiritual transcendence. The way that you serve your community. All these things are different variables in which you're trying to optimize simultaneously. And that means none of them is. Is. Is all. Is just for that. This is the problem that we have with a lot of, you know, sort of influencers. It's as if you do this one thing, your whole life is going to fall into place.

[A]

Wrong.

[C]

The happiest.

[B]

True.

[A]

You disagree No, I don't. I was actually thinking about that the other day with.

[B]

Because you were eating a slice of pizza.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it was delicious. Side note, my favorite pizza place around here closed down. I was so upset about it.

[B]

Pizza Rock closed down?

[A]

No, no. Manitz's Pizza. It's like a little, you know, family owned shop, like five minutes from here. Whenever we were like getting pizza delivered to the house, it was like, let's go pick up Manit says, wait, I.

[B]

Think I thought your favorite pizza place was Papa Murphy's.

[A]

Don't even. That's. That.

[B]

Can you give me just blasphemous. Give me 30 seconds on why you like Papa Murphy's.

[A]

Papa Murphy's is the worst decision for family pizza night.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because you have. You have to do the work of cooking the pizza. So, like, if I'm going to go order a pizza, I want them to have done the job already. I don't want to go pay for work to do when I get back to the house. Like the idea of going to a place that's like a retail establishment and ordering a pizza and they give me just like dough and cheese just like. Well, this isn't.

[B]

Well, when you say it like that.

[A]

You're supposed to give me a pizza. It's supposed to be done and it's not that good.

[B]

Then what's your take on. Then what's your take on biology? Or like blaze pizza?

[A]

I mean, they at least cook it for you.

[B]

Do you like that?

[A]

It's pretty good. It's okay.

[B]

Biology is pretty good.

[A]

I haven't eaten there in a long time. To be honest, my mouth just watered.

[B]

When I thought about it.

[A]

Honestly, I haven't had their pizza in a minute, so it'd be difficult to give a proper estimate on that one. But anyway, you were thinking Murphy's was bottom of the. Bottom of the list, unfortunately, because it's for my wife. Like top of the list. It's probably the number one contention point in our marriage.

[B]

Is there any other type of restaurant that makes you assemble your meal and cook it besides that?

[A]

Don't think so.

[B]

I mean, Korean barbecue, because it's stupid Korean barbecue. You put the little grill thing. That's true.

[A]

But that's.

[B]

But that's an experience. And it's like making a pizza from Papa Murphy and it's sort of like.

[A]

A subjective thing on how long you want to cook it and whatever. It's like, pizza is pizza.

[B]

No, I like my little doughy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I want it real floppy with chewy.

[B]

Can I get a clean read of that one more, just one more time. Can you give me a couple reads of. I want it real floppy so I can just have that to stitch with some videos.

[A]

Yeah. But anyway, my, my pizza place closed anyway.

[B]

So you were thinking about optimizing.

[A]

I was thinking about that from the perspective of like the people who appear to be the healthiest don't necessarily. Aren't necessarily the healthiest. And you see, you see a lot of people sacrifice short term or sacrifice long term health for short term benefits of looking healthy. Meaning like you get on whatever gear or you like looking at a bodybuilder is not how you should live your life objectively. Like it is not. It's, it's literally unhealthy with the, the, the volume of food that they have to eat and then the no food that they have to eat for a period of time and then they, they go on these refeeds and they, you know, are, are shooting stuff into their arms all the time. It's like this is not optimal healthy living. You know what I mean? It feels good, but it's not, it's not optimal for your health.

[B]

There's a, a bunch of psychologists and stuff and doctors are noticing a trend in like the 16 year old kind of guy demographic where they're obsessed with getting big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is nothing wrong with that. I forget what it was called. I wanted to say it was like there was some term that was thrown around for it but it was basically like this thing of like all I can think about like the. I pulled up an article on it just now but it's like working out religiously. It's all I can think about during the day. And like basically there was people that were going. There's. It's almost like a body dysmorphia around young men where it's like I'm not ever big enough.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

The same way girls might be. I'm not skinny enough or you know, whatever that looks like. And, and yeah it's. It. You could be just totally obsessed and addicted to this thing. Yeah. In a way that's unhealthy.

[A]

Out of. We had a friend of ours who is really one of my wife's good friends from the gym and she was telling, she was telling her how her son is sort of like in that, in that thing right now. He's I don't know, 14, 15, something like that teenager. And he's was so obsessed with. They went, they, they're from overseas and they, when. Even when they were back home, like, their family cooked up all this amazing food, and their son didn't touch any of the carbs, the table at all. And Jackie was kind of saying, like, would you be okay with that? And I was like, well, here's the thing. I would never discourage my son from pursuing competence or excellence in a certain way. But also for that young man's age, avoiding carbs is probably not a great move in general. Like, that's you. You need carbs to, like, you're growing so much. Like, you need to. You need to have some stuff to burn off, some fuel to burn off. So, like, that one thing in particular, I was like, you know, I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with it except for the fact that I'm not even sure that that's really the move. You know, just because it's good for me at. In my, you know, like, if my son was 15, that'd be 10 years from now. So for me being in my early to mid-40s, it might be good for me to avoid most carbs, but it probably wouldn't be good for him to avoid carbs with the volume of activity that he does and. And how much he's growing and everything.

[B]

Well, it's the same way, but then.

[A]

He'S sacrificing, you know, dessert with his family in a different country to, you.

[B]

Know, their grandma's homemade.

[A]

Right, Whatever.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And if it's. It's. It's difficult to say because if it's in. Like I said, if it's in pursuit of excellence, if it's like bodybuilding is a sport, just like basketball is a sport. You know, it's like, if you're going to choose bodybuilding as a sport, then what is required of you is different than what is required of you to play golf or something like that. So I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't actively discourage him from wanting to do those things. But like you said, if, if the. It's. It's sort of like the pursuit of money. It's like if you. If you pursue money for the sake of having money, that's when it's. That's when you can start really crossing the line into greed. And then you. If the pursuit is only and ever about money, then that's when you start cheating, you start lying, you start manipulating, you start doing anything you possibly can in. With. With the justification that it is for the pursuit of this thing that is overall a good thing for my life to have. But then you start doing a bunch of stuff that you probably shouldn't be doing in order to gain that thing. And it's sort of the same thing on, on the health perspective where it's like, if, if this ideal body look, this aesthetic is what you're going for, then you might be, you might be sacrificing long term health just so you can look a certain way, which isn't optimal health. It's like the opposite of the effect that you're trying to get because you want the perception that you are this thing when you don't really need that to be the truth. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Well, it's like the extreme version of that is. And obviously this is for like a show, but like I've watched videos with bodybuilders where it's like before they go up to get on stage and look ripped, like they'll drink vodka and eat like Sour Patch Kids because it dehydrates you so much. And it's like, it's almost like counterintuitive. Like you want to look the best physically possibly can.

[A]

Right.

[B]

By doing the worst thing physically for your body, you possibly can.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And, and I think like you said, it's not just food that could be in finance, it could be in, you know, it could be the guy that's going to the club and hooking up with a bunch of different women because it's like, well, it looks like I'm a player. And it's like, yeah, but also, do you have any healthy emotional connection with anybody? You know, like. But yeah, I just thought it was, I thought it was an interesting clip where I was like. First I was like, hell yeah, dude. Like, I could have a little 25. Yeah, I was like, I'm double happy, light work, you know, I was like £25 at £50 over. I'm loving life.

[A]

So really I got to shoot for like £250.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I could be 10 times happier, you know?

[B]

Yeah, just keep, you know, 10x that's really the thing there. But I thought it was a really interesting point of like optimizing for everything. And it really is. Like, I know you've said this and I feel this way, like there's not like a work life balance where it's like, it's very much like the. Well, I work eight hours and I have a great life for eight hours and I sleep for eight hours. And it's like the reality is, is like you're not going to like, especially when it comes to things you're passionate about doing. Like you can't segment that out. Like it's going to be in your mind all the time. So it's like, how do I make sure I'm showing up the best that I can in this moment? Like when I'm at the park with my kid, do I put my phone on airplane mode and just, you know, just be there? Or do I, you know, when I'm reading this book, do I just focus on this book or I'm gonna check notifications or when I'm creating like, like if I'm on social, like creating more than I'm consuming, you know, like all that sort of stuff that's, and it's hard to navigate that.

[A]

That's sort of one reason why I haven't done like, like TRT or Peptides or like any of the other, you know, sort of, I guess, more natural versions of steroids or whatever you want to say. Like, I, I, I haven't really done a lot of that stuff for personal health reasons primarily. Honestly, but secondarily.

[B]

And you're okay looking small and that's fine.

[A]

Well, it just, it just is, it's, it's the, it's the truth from the perspective that I don't want it to, like when I share, when I share those results, I don't want it to be this, this unattainable, you know, physique that's clearly gotten through other methods. And then you're out there. Like the, the whole, you know, liver king thing was a perfect example of that, of somebody who just was like, no, it's just, it's because I eat so much damn liver, you know, it's like, no, because you're on gear, like hardcore heavy steroids that you're shooting up all the time. Like, that's, you're, you're, you're, you're making somebody else's self image be worse because you're giving them this unattainable physique and telling them that it is attainable.

[B]

Well, look what supernatural ways done, you know, like you watch superhero movies, you're like, oh, I want to look like that. And then it's like they're all juicing. Yeah, like you, you watch. I always see the thing where it's like you see Hugh Jackman in x Men 1 and he looks not. This sounds cut and he's, this sounds way, way too complimentary. So don't. I'm saying he looks like you.

[A]

He looks very complimentary.

[B]

He looks like.

[A]

I disagree.

[B]

He looks like, he looks like an average dude. Yeah, yeah, he looks like, he goes to the gym.

[A]

Yeah, right, right.

[B]

Okay. I'm never. That's the only nice thing I'm saying today. But in X Men Origins, the dude's liver kinged out, right?

[A]

He's a.

[B]

But a little less leathery.

[A]

Yeah, but the difference is for those guys, though, is they're doing it in the most healthy way possible. They have teams of physicians and doctors examining blood work that they're submitting on a week. You know what I mean? Like, they're. They have the access that they have to do it.

[B]

You can get their TRK guys be.

[A]

Like, hey, yeah, I wouldn't turn it down, you know, But. But I'm saying. I'm saying, like, the reason I don't do it is because I. I want the results to be something that people can achieve and attain, not something that is like, okay, well, you're clearly doing that. But you. You spend X amount of dollars. Every month on this episode is brought.

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[B]

You know, I feel like that's pretty basic.

[A]

Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's just.

[A]

He's in good shape.

[B]

He looks more jacked than you do.

[A]

He's definitely more cut than I am.

[B]

That's for sure. I think you look more jacked than he does in the first one.

[A]

I think I probably have more muscle than he. Than he was. Than he has there. But he's more. A lot more cut, for sure. Like, his body fat percentage is definitely lower, I guess.

[B]

I don't know. X Men Origins, Wolverine. He would. He would screw.

[A]

But then X Men Origins is like that shot.

[B]

The shot where he, like, where he, like, comes out of the. The test thing. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah. That was.

[B]

That's when you're like, that's what all.

[A]

The workout plans were for, was that one sh.

[B]

Hot. That's. But also, that's when you're like, honey, don't watch this. Yeah, please.

[A]

But also it's. It's unfair, though, when I see People only blame it on that. Like when they see.

[B]

He also is working out eight hours.

[A]

Exactly. And like, I. I read some stuff on that actually, when he was going through Origins and the people that were on set with him were talking about, like, every time I saw him, he had like, a can of tuna in his hands and he was eating some tuna or eating this, eating that. You kind of look like his diet was.

[B]

You look like the blob.

[A]

That's what I used to look like.

[B]

Oh, he.

[A]

It still requires an insane amount of discipline on everything else. You know what I mean? Like, just taking testosterone or just being on gear is not going to get you jacked. You still have to go do all of the work.

[B]

Just like being on Zempic isn't going to make you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look great.

[A]

Right. Like, it is. Even the commercial. Even all GLP1 commercials. Like, the fine print at the bottom is like, you know, when paired with healthy diet and exercise, you know, it's like, yeah, of course, like you.

[B]

They haven't solved that part of the equation yet.

[A]

Exactly. But, yeah, it's. The whole point is like, to. To pursue the result at the expense of your personal health along the way is sort of the opposite reason that most of us are doing this. You know, that's why I've said that on other shows, too, where it's like, I am. I am not under any impression that I am a bodybuilder, nor am I trying to be one. Like, I do it because I, like, I try to stay in shape because I just want to be the most optimal version of myself that I can be while also still enjoying life and allowing myself to, you know, have some ice cream or have a cookie or drink some wine or whatever, you know, but it's not. I don't have any delusions of grandeur and thinking that, like, I'm going to be the next, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger. But the. The problem is that that's become. That's become the. The goal aesthetic.

[B]

I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger is all natty, right?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Him and the Rock are both.

[A]

Yep. The Rock, too.

[B]

Yeah. The Rock is all natural.

[A]

I mean, maybe I will say he looks so much better now after Leaning.

[B]

Out, maybe here is natural. Maybe like in the beginning of his career, like, that's. That's probably semi.

[A]

And those. You know, those islanders, man, they got that. That muscle blood. They just. They.

[B]

They got so big boy, you got muscle blood.

[A]

They do.

[B]

You got some muscles.

[A]

They can stack muscles.

[B]

You got some muscle blood.

[A]

It's in. It's in their jeans.

[B]

He can't even fit in his jeans, but, yeah, that's the coolest flex costume ever, is when he did this. Have you ever seen that? It's Halloween costume. He just painted himself green.

[A]

That's hilarious.

[B]

That's hard.

[A]

Awesome.

[B]

Yeah, I couldn't do that.

[A]

Not many people could do that. That's why he's the rock.

[B]

Yeah. All right, well. Oh, I found a picture of when you did it. All right, let's go ahead and close out the episode there.

[A]

Yeah. So in regards to health, in regards to finances, whatever it is, just the. The. The.

[B]

You.

[A]

You have to remind yourself of the reason that you're doing this, and if the reason is to get in the. In the. In the best health that you can be for you and your family, or the reason is to. That you. You want to pursue this career path because it's more fulfilling. You know, it's like you. You can't. You can't replace the process for the goal, or you start doing a bunch of stuff that's probably not optimal for you long term. And Arthur Brooks is one of the most. For one of the foremost, you know, experts on happiness, so always recommend checking out some of his stuff. His book is great as well, but. Yeah, that's it for today's episode. Remember, money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to sol rest your problems when you got money in the bank. So let's solve that one first here on the Travis Makes Money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Peace.