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Episode: INTERVIEW | Make Money by Vibe Coding and Launching Faster Than Ever with Anne Cocquyt

Host: Travis Chappell
Guest: Anne Cocquyt
Date: February 12, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Travis Chappell interviews Anne Cocquyt, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, educator, and startup author renowned for empowering founders—especially those underrepresented—to build and launch products quickly and affordably using new “vibe coding” platforms and AI-enabled tools. The conversation explores how these technologies are revolutionizing entrepreneurship, the dramatic reduction in cost and time to market for MVPs, and practical steps for non-technical founders to get started.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Anne's Early Spark for Entrepreneurship

• Anne shares the first moment she was excited by earning money: school cafe project, realizing the potential of building and selling something herself.
  • “It gave me the spark for entrepreneurship later on.” (03:01)

The Vibe Coding Revolution

• What is vibe coding? Using AI-driven, no-code/low-code tools that let anyone (not just developers) build and launch MVPs rapidly.
• Anne's real-world example: Female founder needing an MVP was quoted $500k+ for a technical co-founder/CTO. Anne suggested and helped her “vibe code” the product in a fraction of the time and money.
  • “Do not spend half a million dollars and go raise and do all this stuff. That's crazy in this day and age.” (04:15)
• Impact: Democratizes access for those without technical backgrounds or elite degrees, particularly helping female and underrepresented founders.

How AI Tools Change the Startup Game

• AI tools like Lovable, Bolt, REPLIT, and Base44 are specifically designed for non-technical founders.
  • “You can just sit there, give it a window, say what you want to build, and it starts building it. It also starts building all the plumbing... it creates a whole database schema.” (07:10)
• Shift in skill demand: It’s no longer about whether you can build the thing, but should you build it and does anyone want it?
  • “The bar is shifting toward branding and marketing and building the right thing.” (06:45)

Speed & Iteration: New Rules for Launching Products

• AI tools let companies ship MVPs in days instead of months or years, enabling rapid testing and feedback loops.
  • “Instead of a year to ship a product, it’s a week... instead of three months to build landing pages and funnels, it’s a day and a half.” (09:54)
• Anne highlights outright waste and inefficiency in legacy approaches (e.g., $1.5 million quotes for 12-month dev projects). (10:53)
• “I was able to write two and a half million lines of code, which is the work of 70 developers last year... I iterated much more.” (12:03)

Getting Started: How Long Does It Take to Learn Vibe Coding?

• With just 4–5 hours a week, someone can reach baseline competence within about a month.
  • “Within a month you are probably at a good milestone.” (12:50)
• Importance of learning in a “sandbox” environment to remove fear and encourage experimentation.

Actionable Steps for Testing MVPs

• Recommendations for next steps after MVP:
  • Identify your user persona.
  • Choose the right channel for testing—ads for consumer apps; earned media/conferences for B2B.
  • Use tools like Heatseeker to rapidly test messaging and reach.
  • “If it’s a consumer app, you can test marketing messages, ads, and then come back with real data.” (16:05)
• Anne predicts “vibe marketing” will spread soon, automating the go-to-market process.

The Skills That Still Matter — and The Ones That Won’t

• Critical thinking, understanding user needs, and communication remain vital (and irreplaceable by AI).
  • “Critical thinking and understanding the user and what they want is still number one. No AI can take this away.” (20:22)
• Generalist skills and adaptability favored over narrow specialization.
  • “You have to be able to wear different hats... unless you can be an umbrella-skilled generalist you’re going to have a very hard time to defend that one skill you’ve developed.” (22:25)
• Money can’t guarantee product-market fit, nor can easy MVP launches; scrappy entrepreneurship and user understanding are what matter.
  • “The money is not going to solve the problem. The vibe coding is not going to solve the problem. Ultimately it’s still going to be the scrappy entrepreneur.” (23:31)

The Future: Fewer Excuses, More Opportunity

• Removal of technical and financial barriers means anyone can try building and testing ideas.
  • “You can figure this thing out in about a month with a couple hours a week. So there’s just no excuses anymore.” (24:28)
• Lean teams, even solo founders, can build and scale to major valuations.
  • “Base44 sold to Wix within eight months. Eight people.” (24:19)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Anne Cocquyt (on AI-driven empowerment):
  “Literally the seed round is being torched... code is no longer a moat and the little dragon is the vibe coder.” (04:45)

• Travis Chappell (on productivity leap):
  “The time to discover whether or not what you’re working on is worth continuing to work on is so, so, so, so smaller...” (10:23)

• Anne Cocquyt (on learning curve):
  “Within a month you are probably at a good milestone.” (12:50)

• Anne Cocquyt (on skill shift):
  “Critical thinking and understanding the user and what they want is still number one. And no AI can take this away.” (20:22)

• Travis Chappell (on democratization):
  “Now they have the same access as somebody who has a degree in computer science... it’s just democratizing the access to the industry rather than guaranteeing success.” (23:36)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:01] Anne’s first entrepreneurship memory and early spark
• [04:15 – 05:02] Real-life example of translating “vibe coding” into value
• [06:10 – 07:54] Overcoming technical fear and practical available tools
• [09:54 – 10:53] How AI lets teams iterate in hours, not months
• [12:50] How fast you can realistically get started
• [16:05] How to test MVPs and initial traction
• [20:22] The irreplaceable value of critical thinking and user research
• [22:25] Why generalist skills matter most in the AI era
• [24:19] Real-world success stories of ultra-lean, high-valuation startups

How to Follow Anne Cocquyt

• LinkedIn: Anne Cocquyt
• Website: annecocquyt.com
• The Guild Studio (educational programs): letsguild.com

Takeaway Message

The barriers to launching and testing new business ideas have never been lower. Vibe coding and AI-driven tools now let non-technical founders rapidly build and market MVPs, test product-market fit, and iterate with unprecedented speed and affordability. But at the heart of every breakthrough remains the scrappy, adaptable entrepreneur who best understands and serves their user. As Anne puts it, “There’s just no excuses anymore.”

Host’s Closing Reminder:
“Money only solves your money problems, but it's a little bit easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got money in the bank. So let’s solve that one first here on the Travis Makes Money podcast.” (25:22)