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you're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis what's going everybody? Welcome back to the show. Today it's me, you and the mic. It's the solo show. Just the two of us hanging out, talking about a couple things. Look, the reason I started these solo shows and you guys tell me if they're helpful or not, I been podcasting for a long time, over 1500 episodes. We've released, read a couple hundred books in the last few years, listen to countless hours of podcast episodes. These are basically just turned into. Here's some stuff that I've learned recently, or not recently, just stuff I've learned over the last few years of doing this stuff and I hope that it's helpful for you. So tag me on Instagram, shoot me a dm, let me know if you found this episode to be valuable. Today we're talking about the path to lasting change. The path to lasting change. This is a topic that I think is somewhat controversial just because there's this whole school of thought that people can't change, that we don't. We are just who we are and that's it. What you get is what you get. I if you don't know this, I of course am on the side of that. You can change. You, you, obviously you, you definitely can change yourself. Now. It's not easy to change, especially the older that we get. It's not easy to change. We're less malleable, less flexible in our views and our beliefs. But that doesn't mean that we can't change. It just means that it might be a little bit difficult and it might be a little bit uncomfortable. In probably is guaranteed to be uncomfortable. But the question is, are you more okay with the version of yourself that you are now, or are you willing to go through the pain of changing yourself because the pain of staying the same is actually worse than the pain of changing. So that is, I think, the sort of setting this episode up to talk about what we're gonna talk about here. I think people misunderstand the path to change for themselves because most people think that they can change everybody el else, but they don't think that they can change themselves in a reality. The opposite is true, of course, can't change anybody else. Everybody else has to change for themselves on their own timeline when they desire to. So if you are in the boat of man, the pain of changing seems like it would be a breeze compared to the pain of staying the same. And you are in that boat, then maybe it is time to change. Maybe it's time to change something about what you're getting out of life. So I wrote this down a little while ago sort of as like a, a speech that I never actually gave. So hopefully this is helpful. The path to lasting change, first off is be honest about who you are. The, the path to lasting change begins with awareness. Because awareness is always the catalyst to change. If you're not aware that there's a problem, then there's, there's no reason to change said problem because you don't even know that it is a problem to begin with. So obviously this is probably most well known in. So in, you know, Alcoholics Anonymous and drinking in, in when we're talking about, you know, devastating life altering vices. That's, that's typically what we're talking about here. But it does not have to be that, okay? This could just be awareness that you want to change your morning routine. It could just be awareness that you want to change your physical health. It could be awareness that you want to change your financial situation. It just is aware that something is going awry. Something is not exactly the way that you want it to be. And then deciding whether or not the path to change is worth the work that's required in order to reach the other end of that goal. And nobody is going to know the answer to that except for you probably. So awareness is the catalyst to change. You have to start with awareness. Which is one reason why I think it's really important to constantly be in this, this world of self help. I don't know, self help is sort of a hijacked term these days. You can get real prosperity gospel really quick and just get to unhelpful things. Things that are just make you feel like you're doing something when you're not really doing anything.
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But, but I, but you know, whatever term you want to use, self help or personal growth, personal development or whatever, it is the path to making yourself a better person, I think inevitably is going to bring along a level of awareness with it if you are trying at all to have that level of awareness. Because the more information you can gain, the more access you have to other people's stories and the way that people have changed their lives. And that's why we do daily episodes on the show. That's why we have a co host show, a solo show and an interview. Because the interviews are like, they're that everybody listening to this can go listen to those stories and be like, okay, I was, I, I thought I was this way. But then I heard this person talk about how they had a similar experience, the one that I had and they were telling them themselves a story that was similar to the story that I'm telling myself and it turned out not to be true for them, maybe it's not true for me. So I find that if you are putting yourself constantly on this path of, of personal growth, of personal discovery that it's a little bit easier to be aware of the person that you are. Now obviously we will never be completely self aware. 100% self awareness I think is absurd. Nobody is ever going to have that level of awareness. Where are we are all going to have blind spots about who we are. But we can strive, we can do our best to be as self aware as we possibly can be. Be honest about who you are. And this is again the personal growth world that I operate in A lot can almost give you this inflated sense of self. This.
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Unearned confidence. And it's like look, belief in yourself is required and that's an amazing mindset to have and it's good to be confident. But when you start crossing the line into this unearned arrogance where you just are like I, I believe like I'm, I'm a special person because I say I'm special and then like it starts at some point turning into a veil that completely prohibits you from having any self awareness at all. It's like a, you've built almost like a shield because you're like I just don't want to Believe that I'm anything but worthy of what I want in my life and whatever. And it's like, okay, that's great. That's a really good belief to have. But not to the degree where you just are deluding yourself into thinking that you don't have to change at all, that you just deserve it. And if you just close your eyes and manifest it enough, everything's going to show up in your life. That's not how it works. So be honest about who you are, about where you are in your life. And then once you have, once you're clearly established where you are, then it's get clear on who you want to be, not necessarily where you want to go, not necessarily what you want to accomplish. Get clear on who you want to be. Who is the person you want to wake up every day and be? What are the decisions that, that your ideal self makes on a daily basis? What are the activities you engage in? What are the hobbies that you have? How do you spend your professional time? How do you spend your personal time? Sit down, do a day in the life essay. Just write down exactly, here's what I want my ideal life to look like from the moment my eyes open in the morning until the time my eyes shut when I go to sleep. This is ideally how I'd want my life to be. Get clear on who you want to be. Now the, the one thing that, the, the obstacle I think that sometimes gets in the way of this particular step. It sounds really simple to get clear on who you want to be, but I think it's actually more difficult than most people would think. I think, I think for a lot of people, knowing who you want to become is actually a little bit more difficult than becoming that person because you don't really have a clear idea of who you want to be. You're, you're sort of like in this self discovery period. And it might come and it might come and go, it might be in phases, right? You might have extreme clarity for a moment, for, you know, a decade, and then for a couple of years you're sort of lost and you're, and you're wandering around. And what happens is typically when we're lost and wandering around, we are waiting for clarity. We're waiting for a magic moment of clarity when, when it sort of, you know, strikes us, we have this aha moment. The light bulb pops on and now we go. That's where I want to go. And that's unfortunately bad news. Not how you get clarity. Unfortunately, clarity usually counterintuitively actually comes from action. It's not clarity first, then action second. It's actually action first, then clarity second. Clarity comes from action. And I'll give you an example, an illustration that was told to me by Jay Papizan, who is the co author of the One Thing with Gary Keller, one of the best selling nonfiction books of all time. And when I had him on the show, he gave me this illustration to, to, to really drive this point home, which, which is that in the absence of clarity, take action. He says, imagine that you were dropped in the middle of the ocean and you spin around your wading water. Spin around and you are waiting water, you're treading water. And you, and you know that when, when you got dropped in the ocean, you know that there's land within a swimmable distance, but you can't see it at all. Okay, there's two types of people. The first type of person is basically just going to keep swimming around and just spinning around in treading water in the middle of the ocean and weighing which path is the path that they should take. Should I go this direction, should I go north, Should I go south, Should I go east, Should I go west, Should I go north, Should I go southwest? And then they start weighing all of the pros and cons. Well, if I go this way, I might, you know, run into this thing. And if I go this way, maybe the water's just colder over there, it might, might be less of a chance to make it if I go this way, or maybe if I go this way, there's more sharks over this way. And you start overthinking every single thing, but you're still sitting in the middle of the ocean treading water. So eventually what's going to happen if you never take action and swim somewhere? Eventually you're just going to drown and you're going to be suffocated by your own indecision. Then the second person gets dropped in the middle of the ocean. They know that there's land in a certain direction. And as soon as they get dropped in the ocean, they just pick a direction and they start swimmin swimming. They start swimming, they swim for three or four minutes, they get to that point and then they realize, okay, I can't see land over here. Then they gotta swim all the way back to where they started to, then pick a new direction and they swim in that direction. And then eventually what's gonna happen is they'll get, they're gonna pick a direction where they finally see the land and then they can Swim all the way to land. So the idea is that you, you probably will not get lucky enough to do it on your first try. That's the whole thing about the person who's weighing all the decisions is they don't wanna make an incorrect decision. They don't want to take action in this direction and go like, ah, but then if I take action in that direction then I'm going to be a little bit more tired, then I'm going to come back here and I'm going to have to go somewhere else. And what if I fail again? And, and they, and then they, they start building up this story that tells them that it's safer to just tread water than it is to just take action, move in a direction. Whereas the person who actually takes action again, sometimes, you know, you might get somebody who's extremely lucky. This is where you get the 24 year old multi millionaires, right where they picked a direction and they started swimming and it happened to be the right first try. Good for you. A lot of people, it's not going to happen that way. You're going to start swimming in a direction you're going to get, you're, you're going to realize, you know, five minutes down the road and this could be, this could be five years down the road in real life, right, that you're swimming this direction and you go like, actually this is not the direction that I want to be swimming in. I can't see land, there's no way for me to escape this. Let me go back here. And then, and then you can pick another direction and start swimming. But you will never gain the clarity that you need unless you start taking action in a direction and start scratching things off the list. Sometimes the best way to figure out where you should be going or what you should be doing or who you should become is to start heading somewhere and realize that that's not who you want to become and that's not the direction you want to go in and that's not what you want to be doing. So sometimes the best way to do it is process elimination. Just like you have a few things you might be interested in, okay, great, start doing stuff. And then when you start doing stuff, you might realize like, you know, as soon as a day in like, oh wow, this actually sucks. I don't want to do this career path, I don't want to take this job offer, I don't want to get my degree in thing. But now at least you have some information and you've put in some reps you've gotten a little bit better. Maybe, maybe, maybe the next thing that you start, you won't have to start from scratch again because you learned enough swimming in this direction that now you can take what you, what you learned in that direction and apply it to the new direction and get there a little bit faster. But the bottom line is, if you're waiting for this magical moment where the sweet, your fairy godmother is going to come down and give you the sense of clarity that you've been hoping for, it's just probably not going to happen. You have to take action, and the clarity is going to come along the way. So first of all, get honest about who you are right now, where you are right now. Then get clear on who you want to become and where you want to go. Okay, then this is, I think one of the things that people leave out. Number three is craft an environment that makes it easier to become that version of you to go where you're trying to go. If you do not intentionally create your environment, then you are leaving your environment up to chance. And your environment ultimately, ultimately is what has the power to be able to shape you now. Can you can do all of these things without changing your environment? The answer is yes, you can do that. Is it way more difficult? Yes. So why would you make it that much more difficult on yourself? Create an environment for yourself that allows you to become the person that you really want to become. That allows you to make it easier on yourself to be able to make the decisions that you need to make. Simple, simple. Example, you want to lose weight. Well, if you start crafting an environment to get around people who are in really good shape, you might start just through osmosis, learning some of those habits. You know, those people might be going for walks and going to the gym or playing pickleball on Friday night rather than just going to the movies and drinking beers or something like that. You can create an environment that makes it easier for you to become the person that you want to become. So why make it more difficult on yourself? Like, it's already difficult enough success changing yourself, those types of things that they're. It's already a difficult enough path, obviously, or else everybody would do it. So why not make it easier on yourself and make it more likely that you're going to accomplish those things? So craft an environment that makes it easier to come to become that version of you. And just for. For some specifics here. So I'm not leaving this up to chance. What is crafting an environment means? Well, first off, it's your circle. You know, I've, I've been, I've been beating this drum for a really long time. It's your network. Your network is your net worth. You know, you're average. You're the average of the five people that you spend the most time with. Get around people that will make you a better version of yourself sometimes. It could mean an actual physical environment. It could mean physically moving your environment, whether it's getting out of the, you know, roommate situation that you're in. You have some toxic roommates, but it's all you can afford in this particular area. Okay, well physically move to somewhere else. Like physically change your geography. Instead of being in this city, move to that city. Instead of being in this state, move to that state. Do something.
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gets you out of your typical milieu and puts you inside some in a, in a wildly different environment. So it could be a physical location, it could be the friend group that you have, the peer group that you have. It could be just the content that you're consuming instead of, instead of, you know, watching movies or television in your spare time. Maybe you listen to some podcasts, maybe you read some books. It's the, the inputs that you have, it's the content that you consume that also creates the environment that you want to be in. So maybe you are a 16 year old kid kid and you can't physically change your environment. You can't just pick up and move across the country. You're in school and you have your parents and your family and you don't have the ability to make income at least to that degree right now. Well, then you can start changing some of your inputs. You can start with okay, instead of listening to the negativity that's being spewed around this house in a toxic environment with my, you know, whatever, my parents who are, who think this certain way and I don't like that way of thinking and you're eager to get out. Okay, great. I understand there are, sometimes there are physical limitations, limitations on us, but that does not mean that you can't start somewhere. And, and right now, obviously it's never been an easier time to do this because of the volume of information that's out there. You can exist in a siloed world, online at least, so that when you're doing your chores, when you get home from school, you have a podcast in your ears that's helping you become a better version of yourself. Instead of engaging in brain rot or allowing political divisiveness to steal your energy and make you negative all day long, you can create. You can create an environment even without changing your physical location that allows it to become an. That allows you to, to, to change yourself a little bit easier. So craft an environment that makes it easier to become that version of you once you get clear on who that is. And then lastly, get the courage to commit to consistently pursuing that version of you. Courage, because change is scary. Commitment, because that's where freedom lies. And consistency, because nothing lasting comes without painful consistency. Painful consistency. It's, it's when. It's. It's when you've already put in two, three months of work toward this destination. You're already past the, the quote unquote butterfly stage. Could legitimately be in a relationship, or it could just be in, in relationship to the thing that you're trying to accomplish or the thing that you're wanting to do. There's always going to be this, this messy middle where you're in between the time that it was fun and exciting and you were eager because it's brand new and everything's novel and you're lit up and you're passionate about this thing. And then there's this big gap between when those feelings die down and then when you actually see the results. And that's where the majority of people quit. It's in that messy middle. It's in that invisible middle where you can't point to the things that you're doing to with any degree of confidence. To say that, like, look, mom and dad, you were wrong. Look culture, society, look teachers, look friends who said this is impossible. Look bullies who made fun of me. Look at results. You, you can't point to them yet, but you're also doing all these things that are really, really difficult in the meantime. This is what I mean by painful consistency. It's the ability to stay consistent even in the messy middle, even in the invisible middle when you don't have the results that you can point to yet. Just trust the process and know with confidence that they're going to come if you continually just show up and be painfully consistent regardless of what the circumstances are. So, yeah, courage, because Change is scary. Commitment, because that's where freedom, which is counterintuitive, I think. I think for most people commitment is, seems scary because it seems limiting. It seems like you're shackling yourself to something when in reality commitment is actually the thing that allows you the most freedom. Because once you commit to a certain path, it takes the decision making off of the plate. Right? So just to give you an example from, from me, I'm on the, on the podcast. Podcast now has been going for eight and a half years, 1500 plus episodes. But the first couple of years were not like that. They, they were not super enjoyable because there wasn't a lot of results happening. Just getting 2, 300 downloads an episode and I was putting out three episodes a week with not much to show for it. But what I did is at the very beginning I said, I'm going to commit to doing this for two years no matter what. I'm going to do three episodes a week for two full years, no matter what, regardless of if I see any results from this, regardless of, of how much life circumstances might try to get in my way. And there were plenty of reasons, plenty of excuses that I could have held on to during that two year period that would have been easy for me to point to and be like, yeah, I'm done with, that's not working anymore. But the, the, the freedom that came with the commitment was just like, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. So I'm having a bad day. Doesn't matter. My, my. I'm having difficulties in my marriage. Doesn't matter. I'm having difficulties with, with moving from California to Las Vegas. Doesn't matter. I'm having difficulties with meeting new people so that I can interview enough interesting people for the podcast. Having difficulties paying somebody to produce and edit these episodes and get them out on time. Things don't matter when you commit to doing the activity. Like the, the commitments come through. It just means that I'm going to figure out a way to make it work. And there's freedom that comes in that commitment. And then the courage part is just that. Nothing, you know, the, the, the ability to change yourself, the ability to create the life that you want, the ability to, to, to live a lifestyle that nobody else can live. Those things do not ever come to anybody that has not been willing to be courageous enough to take the first step. So get the courage to commit to consistently that version of you. And why? Because everything good in life is on the other side of the work that's required to attain it. So be honest about who you are, get clear on who you want to be, craft an environment that makes it easier to become that version of you, and then get the courage to commit consistently to pursuing, to pursuing that version of you, regardless of what life throws your way. That, to me, is the path to lasting change. That's it for today's episode. Thanks for tuning in. Please, please tag me on Instagram. Travis Chappell, Shoot me a dm. Let me know if this is helpful. Throw out a couple questions, maybe some topics that we can address on a future episode of the show. And I look forward to hearing from you guys over there. So thanks. That's it for today. Thanks so much for tuning in. Catch you guys next time. Peace.
Host: Travis Chappell
Air Date: February 26, 2026
In this solo episode, Travis Chappell explores the concept of creating lasting personal and financial change—not through penny-pinching or luck, but by becoming the kind of person who can make more money and enjoy life now and in the future. Travis breaks down the essential steps for genuine transformation, centering on self-awareness, clarity of purpose, intentional environment design, and unyielding commitment. He brings a fresh, motivational approach, challenging listeners to reframe change as something achievable—even if uncomfortable—and entirely within their control.
"Everything good in life is on the other side of the work that's required to attain it." — Travis Chappell [final summary, 22:45]
If you want tangible, actionable steps—and not just platitudes—on how to change your financial and personal trajectory, this episode lays out a clear, non-judgmental path to becoming the person who can make money and live well.