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You're listening to the Travis makes Money podcast presented by GoHighLevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet. Just go to gohighlevel.com travis. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the show. Today it's just me, you and the mic. Well, I mean this episode is just me, you and the mic. There's a couple other episodes we dropped today. One's an interview, one's a co hosted show with my producer Eric. A little bit more fun, lighthearted, so pick your poison. You know, I mean, I say listen to all three, of course, but this one is just going to be me, you and the mic. We're talking a little bit today about relationships and why some people might want you to do really well, but maybe not better than them. Anyway, so this is really just about how to build a well rounded network of people. And I started talking about this actually the very first time was I came, I did this course when I first started my show, build you'd network. And I was learning everything about the online world. And the next evolution of the topic of the show build you'd network was it was like, well, obviously let's do a course on networking. And so I basically reached into the archives of my brain for everything that I had learned in the four or five months of doing three interviews a week when I first got started and basically put together this outline for. We called it explode your network. And we had three different modules in it. It was like, you know, first things first. So I think it was like spark, spark or like ignite something and then explode, like ignite, fuel, explode or something like that. And it was sort of like, you know, basics, fundamentals, and then here's some intermediate stuff and then here's some advanced stuff. I think this one was in the advanced one just because it was sort of thinking about your network from a logistic perspective. And I remember I drew this picture of a house and it was sort of like we have the, we have basement relationships and we have first story relationships and we have second story relationships. And basically the idea is that you don't want to fill your network with too much of anybody from any of those categories, but you should have people from all of those categories if you're building a well rounded network. So the basement would be people who are just getting started, people who if that you would look at as being like a couple steps behind in terms of the thing that you're trying to do. Then the first floor would be all, is the floor that you're on. It's where all the people are that are more peers, that are. That are in your group of people that you can kind of learn from each other and sharpen each other. And the second story was like, okay, these are all the people that are a few steps ahead of you that you should fill your network with. But then the one thing that I mentioned in there that I think is worth mentioning is that sometimes on that second story level, there are people who exist there who want to help you, but only to the degree that it makes them look good, not to the degree where it would make you actually more successful than they are. So it's like they're rooting for you to be successful until you hit the limit. That makes you then more successful than they are. And then they're almost actively rooting against you. And then that's when you start not necessarily creating enemies, but having relationships with people who are even subconsciously sometimes giving you bad advice in hopes that you stay on the level that they are on because it is detrimental to their ego to see somebody who was behind them get ahead of them. So my sort of main point there was to say that you should have all these, you know, basement first story, second story type relationships, but then you should have a couple of relationships with people who are in the clouds. The, the cloud type mentors to me have always been extremely valuable because they are so wildly successful that they don't give two shits whether or not you become as successful or more successful than they are. They generally, they genuinely have this just abundance belief system that allows them to be able to give unbridled advice no matter what phase of life you're going through. The reason that you shouldn't go a hundred percent of your network all up in that all up in the clouds is that sometimes, even though it is from a really good place, sometimes the advice can be over your head. Just like it ceases to be applicable for the season of life that you're in, I suppose because, you know, sometimes you can get to people who are so far ahead of you in success that the way that they think about life now has been changed because of the success that they've had. And now they're going to give you advice that actually doesn't apply to your current situation, which is why it's good to have people in the second story as well. You want to have people that are a few steps ahead of you. You want to be helping people that are a few steps behind you. Because if you. If you really want to learn something, the best way to learn something is to try to teach that thing. So if you are trying to help people up that are coming up behind you, even if it's like. Even if you're like a newbie, you know, you look at yourself as like, well, I'm a beginner. I'm only 18 years old, and I'm just getting started in business. But it's like, but you had a summer sales gig that you learned a lot, and there's a, you know, your. Your younger brother's friend wants to start making on the side. And it's like, well, here's a couple of things that I learned. It's just about. It's about getting comfortable with the idea that we are not in this thing alone. And you should always be helping people who are a little bit behind you, learning from people who are a little bit ahead of you, and then gaining fresh perspective from the people who are in the clouds, and then also filling that peer room with a bunch of people who are actively in the pursuit of the same path. So you can help sharpen and grow and build each other. But there's pros and cons to each level of these relationships. Like, if you fill up too much of your network with people in the basement, then you can gain this delusional perception of success or victory and get really comfortable where you are. Because you're. If you look at all people you're hanging out with, it's like, well, I'm doing better than all these people are in terms of, like, success in my field. Obviously, we're not talking about personal fulfillment or joy or happiness or anything right now, but you tend to overvalue the success that you've seen because you're like, well, I'm doing better than all these people. So, you know, I don't really have to continue pushing myself because I've sort of quote, unquote, made it, which is a lot of the danger of keeping the same friendships that you've had through your entire life and never actually pursuing friendships that are going to sharpen you, become. Make you become the person that you really want to become. Because if you're sort of comparing yourself to, like, all the friends that I grew up with and they stayed in our hometown and I went over here, it's like, well, I'm. I'm on. On paper doing better in terms of, like, the ladder of success. And so, you know, it makes me feel good, and I can help those. But Then you don't have anybody that's pushing you, right? So that's the danger of that one. Then you get into the peer group and then the danger becomes, since you're all on the same page and all dealing with some of the same problems, it's like you're, it's, it's like trying to, it's, it's like trying to get a group of people together to solve a Rubik's cube when none of you have ever solved a Rubik's cube before. It's like you're beating, you're beating yourself up with obstacles that none of you have figured out before. When somebody who's on the second floor could just reach down and tell you to turn the red this direction, the blue up this direction, and now you can solve the Rubik's cube. So there's danger in only filling your network with people who are, who are peers around you. Then there's danger with only filling your network with the people on the second story because of what I mentioned earlier, because not everybody on that level of success is going to have the generosity and abundance mindset that says that they don't care how successful you get, they just want you to be successful. They're going to have a limit to the success that they want to see you have. So only having second story people can be a problem. And then we've already talked about sort of the dangers of only filling your network of the people up in the cloud. So that's why I say it's, it's important to have this sort of well rounded network that, where you, you, you're actively trying to pull people up the stairs, you're actively trying to have other people pull you up into the second story. And then you actively have like these relations, people in the clouds that are sort of like, you know, transferring positive energy to you because they can't actually physically grab your hand and pull to the clouds. Uh, so I've found that, I found that the more that I try to do all of these things simultaneously and keep a well rounded network of a lot of different people at different rungs of the success ladder, the more that's been beneficial to me. So think of it like a barrel of monkeys. You know, it's like if you don't want to be, you don't want to be the top monkey on the chain because that means you're not going any higher, you're not getting any further, but you don't want to be the bottom monkey on the chain that's not helping anybody else come up behind you. So you want to have abundance in your relationships, and you want to have a bunch of people who are trying to make you a better version of you and who are trying to become a better version of themselves. And you want to, you want to think about it from the perspective of what's the most likely chance that I have of moving into the next quote, unquote echelon of my career. Then it comes down to making sure that you have multiple houses for different sections of your life, right? So you might have people who are financially successful, but they don't take their health seriously. This is the, the, the fattest I ever was. I was £250 and I was, at the time I was telling myself, like, oh, it doesn't matter because I'm making good money. And so when I went back to the town that I grew up in and saw a bunch of people who I grew up with, you know, they'd be like, oh man, gain, you know, getting one guy that was like, literally was like, looking pretty fat these days, huh? And my literal response to him was like, yeah, so is my wallet. And, and to me at the time, it was like, haha, got him. But then I started thinking more about it. I was like, well, if I play that all the way through, I don't want to be the guy that's worth eight figures but is also 170 pounds overweight. And I was well on my way to 170 pounds being like 50, 60 pounds overweight. And I was only like 24 or 25 at the time. So then I looked around at the people that I was working with at the time, and I was like, it makes sense why I got this big because I was still one of the smaller guys compared to all the other people that I was working with. They were actually a little bit taller than me, and then they were heavier than I was as well. And so when I looked around at those people, I was like, I'm doing okay, I'm doing fine. And then I go get around people who are in really good shape and they were healthy and they, they, they valued that thing. And I realized like, oh, wow, I, I'm struggling getting up the stairs, I'm losing my breath, putting my socks on. You know, like, things like that, that I started realizing, like, oh, that's probably not a great thing to continue pursuing that path in life. So then I sort of had this health house, and I sort of had this finance house, and I sort of had, you know, this Happiness fulfill. You know, I talk to people about philosophy over in psychology over here, and I talk to people about comedy over here, and I talk. So you. You sort of start. You sort of start having these different houses where there's different people on different rungs of the ladder, of that, of the success ladder that's sort of all over the place. And that has been extremely helpful for me because ultimately it comes down to just crafting the environment that I want to craft that enables me to become the person that I want to become the most. And for me, that meant success in multiple areas of life, not just. So I have beat this concept like a dead horse, but I'm going to continue to do it because I think it's extremely valuable. You'll rarely, if ever, find somebody who's going to disagree with the idea that your environment is what shapes you into being the person.
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To be, but then the whole responsibility thing that we talked about a couple episodes ago sort of comes back into play. Because ultimately you have control over the environment that you're in the most. So if your environment is what controls who you're going to be, and you have control over your environment, then ultimately you have control over the person that you're going to be. So if you don't actively and purposefully plan an environment and put yourself into an environment that changes you in the person you want to become, then you're just shooting yourself in the foot just to see if you can walk. You're actively making it more difficult to become that person, which is a bad idea because it's already difficult to become that person. Changing yourself from the inside out is a difficult process. It's uncomfortable. It requires change. It requires courage, it requires confidence. There's so many things that will prohibit you from becoming that person. So if you are adding to the difficulties by not setting up an environment that's conducive to helping you become this person, then you are actively rooting against your own self to become that person. And that's how you end up in the same position that you are now in 10 years from now. And so if you want better habits, if you want better beliefs, if you want to take better actions, if you want better information or knowledge, then it's better to go get around all the people who already have that and hang out with those people and put yourself in the environment that is actually able to turn you into that person. Even with something as simple as health or weight loss. I told myself for so long, I bought into this bullshit belief that I was not able to have a certain body type. I was just like, well, this is just the body type that I have. It's genetics. And it didn't help that my wife is like the opposite of my body type. So, you know, we would have a very similar diet and she would gain very, very little weight where I would just start packing on pounds. And so I would just point at that as my excuse and be like, well, look, she, she's eating what I'm eating, but she doesn't gain as much weight as I gain. It's gotta be genetics. Gotta be, you know, just the way that I'm built. And while some of that might be true to a certain extent, I didn't start realizing that it was really like, it was really not as big of a factor as I, as I thought it was until I started getting around other people and listened to the way that they talked about health. Because my thought process at the time was like, well, I don't want to be a bodybuilder. You know what I mean? I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care to make that my entire identity. So it's okay if I'm 40 pounds overweight. And then I in internally, I knew that there was something wrong with that, but I didn't challenge it enough because it felt better just to blame it on my genetics than it and not take personal responsibility. So I let it go for quite some time until I started getting around other people that were like, oh, this person's not a bodybuilder. And they, you know, they have a similar body type to mine. They just eat like this, or they move like that, or they do this many steps or they are training for this marathon, or they go weight train X number of days a week, or they drink this much water. Like, I started pulling principles and ideas from all these other people. And the good news about being in the social media Internet age is that you don't even have the environment. Doesn't even have to be physical and local. Although that's the most powerful form. It does not have to be exclusively that. So if you're in a position where it's like, well, my parents are paying for my school, but only if I go to this school. Cause it's closest to home and I don't have many other options if I want to finish this degree. So I can't just like leave and bounce and go somewhere else, whatever, okay, I can't change my physical situation. But you can change all of the inputs that are going into your brain. You can change. Instead of, you know, watching entertainment on Netflix, you can listen to a podcast about health and you can hang out with other people who've already figured, figured out these things without actually physically hanging out with those people. Which is one of the coolest parts about the age of, you know, being alive right now is we can, we can craft these environments without it being physically getting in a horse drawn carriage and moving in a dangerous terrain across the country with your family, like, you can do it in a much easier way and you can do it for free. All these podcasts, YouTube channels, it's all free. So until you have the ability to physically change your environment, then start changing at least the inputs that you're putting into your mind, because the, the inputs that you have will eventually become your outputs. And that all is included in crafting your environment that way. So, which is another reason why I started a podcast when I didn't feel like I had much to share. It was just like, well, I'm learning stuff from all these other people and I'm putting myself into these rooms and environments where I'm learning at a rapid rate. So the podcast is sort of like my contribution to the people that are in my basement. The people who are like trying to get out of this position that they're in. And they're looking at me at being one or two steps ahead of them, being like, oh, if I could just get what Travis is doing, great, well then check out the podcast, listen to the stuff I'm putting out. So it became like a contribution thing as well. So that you, you know, you don't necessarily have to go, you know, teach an entrepreneurship class at your former high school or something like that to have an impact. You can do that on social, with content. You can do that through a podcast or YouTube channel. And then you can also learn from a podcast and YouTube channel. So you can do all of this virtually. It's much more powerful when it's done physically and locally in person, I think. But in the meantime, if you don't have the, you know, financial means or whatever. You can do this from a virtual perspective as well. So build yourself a well rounded network, create the environment that will create the version of you that you want to be, and then follow it up with the work and there's no way that it doesn't pan out to at least some extent. So that's it for today's episode. Appreciate you all for tuning in and for listening. Shoot me an email travischapel.com, dM on Instagram avischappell if you're listening to the show and you want us to cover some other topic here, but thanks for tuning in. We'll catch you guys in the next one. Peace Hablas Espanol Spries if you used.
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