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You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com Travis what is the antidote to loneliness? Welcome back to the show. I'm Travis Chappell, your host. And on these episodes, just me, you and the mic. These are basically just lessons that I've taken away from all of the work that I've done in the personal development space over the last almost decade of my life, all the interviews that I've, that I've conducted with some of the world's most successful people, but also the hundreds of books that I've consumed and I don't even know, I mean, hundreds, maybe probably thousands of hours of podcasts. And so these episodes are basically just here's a bunch of stuff that I've learned. Hopefully it's helpful to you. And today we're talking a little bit more about loneliness because that's what we talked about a lot here on the show. And then also on my other show, Travis Makes Friends. So if I were to pose the question to you, what is the antidote to loneliness? You probably assume something like, you know, community events, concerts, shows, something like that. And while some of that is actually really helpful, the problem is that we have not properly defined the terms. So if you have not listened to this on the previous episode, there are two sort of definitions for this. One of them is loneliness. The other one is social isolation. The solutions that we just mentioned are more solutions to the social isolation piece, which is an objective measurement of how much time you're spending with other people. But it is not as much of a of a solution for the loneliness side, which is more of a subjective internal feeling of not belonging to a community or group. So research for the loneliness side, because this is more, a little bit more difficult to solve, right? Because you Know, somebody could have all these feelings of loneliness, even though they seemingly are somebody who's really connected to a lot of people, they're seemingly ingratiated in a great friend group and they have a wonderful support group. They have family and friends who love them, but they still on the inside, feel lonely. So research, research actually shows that the true antidote to loneliness, because it is subjective internal state, is aloneness. So antidote to loneliness, being aloneness. It's ironic that the cure to loneliness is actually being alone, but it seems to me that that's the case and that's probably the biggest thing that I've realized that is escaping the majority of the solutions that people are offering, at least front facing. You know, most people are talking about like, oh, go make better friends. And you know, it's about proximity and it's about duration and it's about all these. And it's like, look, all those things are great and they are helpful, but not necessarily for this loneliness piece. And I think that the ultimate cure to loneliness is actually being alone, which sounds weird. When we know ourselves, we are better qualified to get to know others. Even Henry David Thoreau said, I never found the companion that was so companion. Let me say that again. I never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude. And then more than a century later, Wendell Berry said, in the wild places where one is without human obligation, one's inner voices become audible. The more coherent one becomes with oneself as a creature, the more fully one enters into the communion of all creatures. So the first time someone suggested that I spend an entire evening alone, I thought they were crazy. I thought they were insane. You know, you may as well have just told me to run a ultra marathon or, you know, watch all of Grey's Anatomy or something like that. Like, there's just no way that was going to happen. Now at this point in my life, I can't imagine never having any time alone. I actually find myself craving time alone. When I do get to spend time by myself, I find myself enjoying that time. And sometimes that means like if I'm out traveling somewhere, I take myself to dinner. And before I always looked at it as like, look at those losers by themselves with nobody to hang out with, you know what I mean? But now it's like a, it's a very enjoyable experience to take myself out to dinner and grab some food and just sit there alone with my thoughts or put on a podcast and listen to something or write some notes or do some journaling or something like that. I actually enjoy Spending time. Spending time with myself. So here are my guidelines for aloneness or solitude. All right, first off, this episode of the show is brought to you by Mars Men. 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