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Travis
You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast presented by gohighlevel.com for a free 30 day trial of the best all in one digital marketing software tool on the planet, just go to gohighlevel.com travis what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the show. On this episode, it's just me, you and the mic. And today I wanted to go over a few things that I've learned from guests on the show. Maybe this will turn into a series, who knows? But I have had the pleasure, the opportunity to interview now over a thousand people on my shows over the years. It's been almost nine years now, which is pretty crazy. And there's get the question a lot from people like, well, what have you learned from guests in your show? And it's always difficult to sometimes like immediately recall those things. It's been more like, what are the common denominators and what are the themes and what do I want to explore? So on this episode I thought, hey, it might be helpful if I just go back in time to a few conversations that I've had with some guests and talk about some of the key takeaways, things that I've taken into, into my life specifically. So let's go ahead and get started with one that I think about quite often. This comes from a conversation that I had with Ed Mylett. It was the second time that I had him on my show. The first one was one of the best conversations I've ever had about confidence and rejection, by the way. So that's a good one to go check out. Still stands to this day. But he said something on one of the interviews that I did with him and he said extremity expands capacity. And when I was in the conversation, I kind of glossed over it. Like I, I, I heard what he said, but I didn't really internalize what he said. But since then I've had a lot of experiences that have made me realize this. And it sort of goes into that whole, you know, attack with violent volume idea where when you're starting a new venture especially and you don't know what you're doing, it's extremely helpful just to go get a ton of reps in. And by a ton, I mean a lot more than what most people think. Okay? I mean double and triple what other people are doing. So I've, I've used this in sales context when I'm like the, the new sales guy on the team. And, and I did some of this stuff without even realizing it, to be honest, because it just is what made sense to me. It's just like if you do more reps than everybody else, you're just gonna get better. But the extremity expands capacity idea kind of takes that to a further degree because it implies that it's not something that you're gonna do forever. You can't live an extreme of fill in the blank of working out, of doing sales, of, of running, whatever. You can't do that forever. You can't, you can't run a hundred miles every day, okay? But you can run 100 miles one time. And it teaches you what you're capable of. And this is, again, what this is what Navy Seals do during hell week is that they're there to expand their own mind. They're there to expand the potential of they can do and what they are actually capable of doing. And I realized this the first time I ever ran an ultramarathon. And I saying ultramarathon makes it sound more than it was. It was 38 miles. So it wasn't, you know, one of these like sanctioned ultramarathon races that are 150 miles through death Valley and stuff like that. But for me, it was the first time I'd ever done any long distance running. I'd never done a marathon. I still have never done a mar. Like a. Just a marathon, even to this day. But it was, it was last minute for me. I was a last minute addition to the lineup. A couple friends of mine were running 38 miles and I knew that they were training for it and I was in decent shape at the time, like decent running shape. I wasn't doing a lot, but I was, I was doing a hundred miles a month for like three or four months. So like 3ish miles a day, something like that. So I was, I was, you know, at least used to the idea of running and had been running more than I had ever run. But I wildly underestimated, estimated the preparation that goes into something like 38 miles. So I show up to this thing and there's four or five of us that started the run and me and a couple Chime is changing the way that people bank. They offer the most rewarding fee free banking that's built just for you, not the 1%. Chime members can benefit from up to $1150 in annual rewards fee free. It's rated five stars by USA Today for customer service because you get real humans. 24. You're not just switching banks, you're upgrading to America's number one choice for banking with a Chime checking account. Plus you can get up to 5% cash back on a Chime card in your category of choice like gas or groceries. 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Travis
last minute additions and I remember talking to one of the guys who had done it the year before. They did 37 miles year before and he was saying like, oh, I lasted 20 miles. And I remember thinking at the time, like, well, I'm gonna do more than that just so I can beat that guy. But my intention the whole time was just to complete it. And I was just remember thinking like, okay, even if I've, even if I have to slow down to like a walking pace, I can at least walk 3ish miles an hour. And at some point, even if I break down at mile, you know, 15 from running, I can get the additional, you know, 18 miles or whatever the math is. That's bad Math. That's another 15 plus eight. So 23 miles, I can do that at least three miles an hour. It's going to take me way longer than everybody else. But I'm, I, I, I, it was me to at least finish it. And then obviously when you do something like that, you don't train for it because it's not even like necessary. Obviously part of it is the running training itself, but it was also just like I was totally green to that world. I didn't know what I didn't know. So I just go into the back of my closet, pick out a pair of running shoes that I had had for like three years. They were like, they were clearance rack type. Oh no, it was, it was, I got a pair of Nike running shoes from the Nike outlets one time like three years before. So I was like, oh, I have running shoes. Let me just go grab a running shoes off the shelf. Not realizing that that was going to be a big factor. So these running shoes had this little like elastic stretch, like stretchy band connected to the tongue of the shoe on the inside. And what ended up happening was around mile three, mile four into the run, the elastic part of the shoe on my left foot started rubbing on the inside of my foot and I got this blister. And so that sucked. It was very early on in the run and as soon as it started happening, I was like, ah, man, this is not going to be fun. And so what, what I started doing was I started favoring my, my right foot. So I would, I would, my stride became a little bit uneven, which isn't a big deal on mile four, mile five, but when you do that for an extended period of time, the load ends up getting worse on the other foot. So around mile 20, something clicked in my right foot. Like, like I actually, I felt it on, on a, on a step. It wasn't just like loading up over time. It was, I felt something happen in my foot around mile 20 and at this portion of the race, I was of. Of the run, I was already not feeling it. You know what I mean? So we had an RV that was sort of following us around just for support in case somebody needed something. And every 12, 13 miles or so, somewhere in there, we'd hop in the rv, grab some more electrolytes poured in our water, grab a banana, and then hop back out. And the other guys would, like, change out their socks and get a new pair of running shoes and things like that. And I. And I, like I said, didn't know any of that. I did tell me to bring socks. So I think I changed my socks. And when I changed my socks on the first 10 miles, I saw this big old blood blister happening on my left foot. Throw my socks on, go get back out there. Mile 20. What ended up happening was the two guys who were actually properly trained for the run had taken off. They were in the distance. I couldn't see them anymore. So the RV was directly behind me because it was staying behind the person that was in last place. And the other two guys had already quit, so they were already done. I was out there by myself. The RV was there, and the rv, I start walking because something happened to my right foot. And so I'm. I'm quite literally limping around mile 20. So one of the guys gets out from the RV and goes, hey, man, the other guys need a refresher on their drinks and stuff. Do you want to just hop in the RV and we'll go up to them and we'll just drop you off with them up there and you'll, you know, skip a couple miles, but you can keep going up there. And I. I really, really wanted to take him up on that because the last thing I wanted to keep doing at that point was continue walking. But I also knew that if I got in the RV and experienced the comfort of being driven somewhere, that it would be 10 times more difficult for me to get back out and keep going. So I was just like, ah, no, go ahead. Go up there and help those guys out. So the RV leaves me, and we're in the middle of nowhere in St. George, Utah. Just picked a big stretch of road to run. And because also we were. We were. We were starting at midnight. So it was my buddy's 38th birthday. He wanted to run 30, 38 miles on his 38th birthday. So we started at midnight, as soon as he turned 38, and that's when we started the run. So right around this time, 20 miles in, I was about 4 o' clock ish in the morning, it's pitch black. I'm in the middle of nowhere in the desert, running alongside of the road. RV takes off, and now I'm completely by my. So I had this sort of like come to Jesus moment out there because I was like, what am I doing? I'm out here completely by myself. It's pitch black. I'm barely walking because my foot hurts so much. What am I doing? I should have just got back in the rv. Like, nobody's going to fault me for quitting. Right now I'm 21 miles in, which is more than I've ever run in my life. You know, this is still an accomplishment. All of the inner turmoil, all of the excuses that you're giving yourself at that time, I was experiencing all of those. And I knew that it was just one phone call away to be able to just jump in the RV and be done. And I remember in that moment thinking about trying to explain to my. I think at the time, my son was three. I think, yeah, somewhere around there. And I remember in my mind trying to think about how I was going to explain to my son that I quit. And that thought by itself kept me going because I was just like, I can't, I can't tell him to never quit if I'm also going to quit when things get hard. And so I kept, I kept up the pace and I just kept walking. It was just like, look, 20 miles. I had 18 left, three miles an hour. I'm just, it's going to take me another six hours. So those guys are going to be done in, you know, whatever, three, four hours from now. I'm just going to be done in six hours. So I'll finish around 10am and I was just like internalizing that, thinking about it. And then around the marathon mark, so around 26ish miles, I get out for, or I hop back in the RV to grab a refresher. And I was legitimately planning on quitting at the marathon mark. But what happened was right before, like 20 mile, 24 mile, 25, I experienced this second wind. And it came out of nowhere. And it was the first time in my life that I really experienced what a true second wind was. Because I, you know, grew up playing sports and stuff and, and I'd push myself a lot. And that was always, you know, I was, I was never super athletic. I was just the guy that was willing to work really hard. And I was super competitive. So I hated seeing other people beat me. And that's what kept me going. But when you're out there doing something like this, it's totally elective. There's no audience, there's nobody watching. It's you versus you, literally, in your own mind. So I get this second wind around mile 24, 25. And so when I hop back in the RV around the marathon mark, I was like, I think I'm. I think I'm good. I think. I think I can keep going. But I literally had called my wife to come pick me up after, like, when I was around mile 24, 25, before I hit the second wind, I had text her to be like, hey, you might need to come get me. But also, it was like five in the morning, so she didn't, you know, she wasn't able to respond fast enough. And so I was just like, all right, whatever. I'm just going to keep going. Hit the second wind, and. And then I actually start catching up to them around the time where I caught my second wind, because they had trained better. They were feeling the pain around mile 32, when I had felt the pain around mile 20. And so I. So they started losing their pace, slowing their pace. I started picking up my pace, so I actually ended up almost catching up to them. And I finished the 38 miles. I think it was like eight and a half hours or something like that. I was only 15 minutes or so behind them. I thought it was gonna be like three hours behind them, and started picking up the pace, started running a little bit more. By the time I was done, I had, like, rashes everywhere. My. That bl. On the bottom of my foot had cut. It was covering probably. Probably like 25% of my. The bottom of my foot. It had moved from the side of my foot all the way up into the ball of my foot. It was gross. It was a blood blister. You could touch one side and see the blood move to the other side. And then on my right foot, because I had been favoring it so much. Whatever that click was that happened around mile 20, which I still don't know to this day exactly what it was I was. When I. When I finished up there, my. My right foot was completely blue and purple, and my left foot had the blister on it. And where we were was probably like 45 minutes to an hour away from the place that we were staying, the hotel that we had for the night. And I remember my. My. My wife, when we got out of the car, she had to come over, and I put my arms around her. And she was supporting my full body weight like. Like she was like my crutches. And the walk from the car to the hotel room was so brutal. Like, I was moving an inch at a time. There were steps to get up to the elevator to take us to our floor. And looking at those steps, it may as well have been a thousand steps. I was like, how. I don't know how I can lift my legs up to go up this. I ended up being on crutches for, like, five days afterwards. I thought I'd broke my foot or something. I didn't know what was going on. But I remember that feeling that I had of accomplishment when I was done with it. And my. My. My wife drives to pick me up. My son gets out of the car, he runs over to me, gives me a big hug. And in that moment, I knew that I had just experienced this version of what Ed Mylet said, which was extremity expands capacity. It was putting yourself. Putting myself into this extreme environment where I had no business being there. And there was every reason in the world for me to stop doing what I was doing. But because I made a decision to just keep going, it expanded in my mind what I thought that I was capable of. And not just in running, but it also translates. Because that's the beautiful thing about confidence, is that the. The confidence of figuring something out is more important than the confidence of actually doing the thing. Because fig out type confidence can apply to almost any. Like, literally anything actually that you want to accomplish. So that extremity expense capacity thing was something that. I remember him saying that. And at the time, not being. Not super. Not. Not actually internalizing exactly what he was saying. But then after that, it was like. It's something that I've referred to so many times in my life. And something that's been super helpful for me is that if you can do something extreme for any length of time, then it expands the capacity to which you think you can perform, which will only enable you to continue to do other things that other people are not willing to do or capable of doing. So extremity expands capacity. That's from Ed Mylett. The next one is you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your habits. This one I picked up from James Clear. This is obviously, he's the habits guy. So when I had on my show, this was pre. I mean, Atomic Habits was already out, but it was not the craze that it is today. Like, it's been on the bestseller list, basically. Since we've done this interview like seven years ago, six years ago, whenever it was and he, he said that, he said this something this episode is brought
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Travis
the lines when we did the conversation and it's also in his book. But you don't rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your habits. So a lot of times we set these big goals. We have New Year's resolutions or there's a company quarterly goal setting meeting or whatever and people just throw goals out there and then just hope that it happens. And I found a lot of value in focusing on habit goals now rather than big, big like dream accomplishment goals. Because a lot of times what happens is you set a goal and if it's a good goal, it should be out of reach. A good goal is one that's not, you know, so crazy and far out. Like if you've, if you've never made a hundred grand, your goal for the next 12 months should not be to make 10 million. Like that's, like that's so far. You have no, no ability to even think about how to bridge that gap. But you know, a good goal would be a stretch, but not so much of a stretch that you, that it's you, you make it impossible and then you treat, you teach yourself that setting goals is pointless because there's no way you're ever going to reach it. So assuming you have a good goal, it's better to focus on becoming the type of person who's capable of achieving the goal rather than focusing on the achievement of the goal itself. So if you want to set a goal of Making a million dollars. Then you start, if you start asking yourself the question, well, what who is the version of myself that I should become in order to be able to reach that goal Enables you to build habits that will allow you to be able to have the consistency and the skills of somebody who can reach that goal later on. So you don't rise to the level of your goals, you fall to the level of your habits. Is another really good one that I picked up from James Clear on the show. Next one. There's no point in talking relationships with others if you don't first fix the relationship to yourself. This came from Mark Manson, who's one of my favorite self help authors, mainly because he doesn't engage with all like the delusional prosperity gospel bullshit of the self help industry. He's somebody is still a fan of self improvement and still wants people to improve their lives and improve themselves. But he does it from a pragmatic point of view with actual data and science behind it. And when he came on the show he said something along these lines. There's no point in talking about relationships with others if you don't first fix the relationship to yourself. So my show at the time was build your network is all about networking. So his, his whole thought was basically like you're, if you're, if you're only focused on how to be a better networker, you're not focusing on how to make yourself a better person, then you're going to struggle, you're going to find yourself lacking. Even if you step one, step two, step three that you heard from this guru or you read in this book about how to meet people or whatever. If you don't first fix a relationship with yourself, then it's going to bleed into your relationship with others and, and you're not going to be able to achieve the goals that you want. And that's relationships in a business context, that's relationships in a personal context, that's romantic relationships. The goal is to build a better relationship with you first and then you can move on to fixing the relationships with your, with other people around you. Which kind of goes into the last one that I have for you guys here today, which is from Dr. Nicole Lapera. She's heolistic psychologist on Instagram, written a couple bestsellers since that's 7 or 8 million followers or something like that across her socials. But she said when you change your relationships or when you change your relationships will inevitably change. Or it was something along those lines. So what she was saying was when I Asked her about this thing about who you know, what you know, and how do you build better relationships and how do you make sure that the people around you are really good quality people. She talked about it in the context of changing yourself as well. And she was not saying she was not. We were talking about the idea that, that a lot of people put out there that you just have to cut off all the people in your life type of a thing. And my argument's always been like, you don't have to purposefully and intentionally cut people off unless, okay, caveat. Unless they're like a toxic person, which sometimes you do need to cut those people off. But for the most part, though, this, I see this advice given to people all the time where it's just like, oh, somebody hasn't have the same goal as you, cut them off. And it's like, I disagree with that because I still have a lot of great friends in my life who are really awesome additions and value adds in my life who just love me for me and I love them for them. And we don't have anything that is similar. We don't have similar goals at all. You know, like they're, they're perfectly fine living this version of their life. I want to live this version of my life, but we can still get together a couple times a year, go golfing and play video games and just be dumb boys again, which there's a lot of value to those. So it's not necessarily about cutting off the people in your life. It's about just intentionally spending time with people who are, who do have similar goals and similar thought. Thought processes. And the more. And so her point was basically saying, like, if you do that, you will change, and if you change, your relationships will inevitably change as well. And, and that's a good thing. You're supposed to change, you're supposed to evolve. You're supposed to become a better person. Which is the difficult part about interpersonal relationships, especially stuff like, like, like marriage, because you're committing to somebody for the rest of your life. But that commitment has to be. Be a commitment to the version of the person that you're marrying and all future versions of that person. Which is why the commitment to me matters less than a matching or alignment of values and mission and purpose. Like those things are so much more important in a, in a romantic relationship. Because if you have those values that are aligned, then as you both change over time, which you should both be changing over time as you both do that, then you will continuously re. Engage with those values and you'll be able to to work through the inevitable differences that arise in the future. So when you change your relationships will inevitably change and that came from Dr. Nicole Lapera who's a psychologist. So extremity expands capacity. You don't rise to the level of your goals, you fall to level of your habits. There's no point in talking relationships with others if you don't first fix the relationship to yourself and then when you change your relationships will inevitably change. So that's Ed Mylett, James clear, Mark Manson, Dr. Nicole Lapera. There's a few things that I've taken away from just a few of the guests that have been on the show in the last and I hope that it was helpful to you as well. That's it for this episode of the show. Catch me on the next one. We'll probably just keep talking about stuff like this. So yeah, anyway thanks for tuning in. Catch you next time. Peace.