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- [00:02]
Rob Schneider
Mexican waiter was really nervous and I said, you know, are you okay? Mr. Snyder ain't nervous because I know her legally. So I worry that the ICE to come take me back to Mexico. You know, these are the guys we want here in this country. People working hard. Then he completely fucked up our order. And I was like, get this guy. You can't fuck up lunch. That's the most important meal of the day. As soon as I got the check, I called ICE and at table 47. Gotta get over here. I'm a conservative. Well, I mean, I'm a 90s liberal, which makes me a right wing fascist now. Right. We all are. God forbid we stick to those, you know, free speech and, you know, women's rights and things like that. Crazy stuff. The, the idea that you can silence other people just because you disagree. I mean that, that has to be. I mean, I'm still waiting for the Democrats to say that's not good.
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Francis
I think you might be waiting for a.
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Rob Schneider
California either has a huge homeless problem or a gigantic camping success story. Maybe it's both. I don't know.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Rob Schneider, welcome back.
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Rob Schneider
Thank you so much, brother.
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Trigger Podcast Host
It's only been about a year. Last time we had you on the show it was right after the election.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Pretty much the biggest episode we've ever done. 2.5 million views. People absolutely loved it.
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Rob Schneider
Thank you. Very honored.
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Trigger Podcast Host
It's been 12 months and like so much has happened. It's crazy.
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Rob Schneider
No, it seems like the Chinese. It's not a proverb, but it's basically the curse. Yeah.
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Trigger Podcast Host
May you live in interesting times.
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Rob Schneider
We are living in very interesting times. A lot has happened since then. I think the realization still sinking in to the liberals that they've lost power and they are not giving up easily as the demonstrations, the no kings, leftist demonstrations, as the former Soviets called them, the useful idiots. So they're doing that. And also there's a wake up. I mean the fact, just because the Republicans are in power that they can actually do all the stuff they want to do. It's a wake up call to realize, you know, you can't. There's some impediments to it, love. We can't do everything we'd like to hear, but we'd like it very much so.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, the only conversation you and our booker have is basically you impersonating his English accent and ripping him a new one. We all enjoy listening in as that happens.
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Rob Schneider
No, I just like, he just assumes like, no, I told you yesterday we're coming at 1:30. Yeah, but I Didn't agree you. No, but I said I sent you a message, which means it's going to happen automatically. I'm English, I make things happen. You still use our rules. You kept the rule of law and property rights. We owe you. So when I say message, you're stuck with it.
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Francis
I mean, he's not wrong, is he?
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Rob Schneider
But it is lovely though, because I find myself to be an Anglophile and all the best humor was that because we didn't get the shitty stuff. You know, truthfully, I was never, I mean, no offense, but I was never into Benny Hill. But Monty Python, I mean, the, you know, it's all right, Jack. Those great comedies are the Ealing comedies. I mean, that was the basis of, like, great comedy. And it's because your people were so angry because I don't think you participated in the Marshall Plants. You didn't get banked out like Germany. So you guys are still rationing, like into the, into the 50s.
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Francis
Yeah.
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Rob Schneider
And they were pissed we won the fucking war, you know, so that was kind of similarly how, like I just got back from Hungary and like, and the war never ended there. It just. New, new occupiers came in. But it's so, so, so there was a beautiful thing that happened, I think, in English humor. Correct me if I'm wrong, but. Whereas there was still like an intensity like, you know, after the war and all the, the pressure leading up to it, you couldn't wait to get rid of Churchill and then, you know, the next thing. So the comedy had an edge to it that I think led to like, eventually 19, I think it was 61 when Peter Cook went on the, the Footlights. And then that was, you know, John Cleese and Eric Idle, I think were watching that night and didn't realize you can make fun of the establishment. I think he made fun of the Prime Minister, Peter Cook. And that was the beginning of the rise. And I think that led to, you know, to another level, the high water mark of comedy in the 20th century English Monty Python.
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Francis
Well, Peter Cook was one of our greatest ever satirists. Him and Dudley Moore, of course, had that famous partnership. But one of the things that people were taken aback with by Peter Cook at the time was how savage he was. And, you know, we were very much, no, no, these are our betters. You can't talk about them like that. That's very. And he just went in. He did not care. And it was quite shocking at the time. But one of the things that I've noticed about American humor and I love American humor. I love your standup. Your comedies are great. Ours, we. It's kind of the difference between heavy rock and jazz piano. Jazz piano is English because it's a note you.
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Rob Schneider
Subtle.
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Francis
It's more subtle. It's the notes you don't play. That's where the humor comes in.
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Rob Schneider
Yes.
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Francis
Whereas Americans, you like your power chords.
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Rob Schneider
You know, it's a hammer. But I think, though, I like the, the subtlety of both. You know, when. When you could. I, I like telling a joke where I'm. I, I. The best thing for me when I'm doing stuff is like, it's. Let the audience go. I'm gonna. I just want to get this out of my way first to get the joke in. You know, I go like, you know, it's good to be back in California, but, like, I had to move because, you know, I got little kids and it's dangerous to have kids in public school. You know, in California, you know, in the morning you drop off a girl, afternoon you pick up a boy. You know, so you just kind of get to it. And then, you know, the, the subtleties of it. And again, in the same way, you know, you just, you get them off balance as best you can. But I'm definitely influenced by that English humor and the way that you could. It's, It's. I. Hopefully it's a good combination of both. And stand up is particularly just like jazz, which you guys stole from America. And stand up comedy, I believe, you know, it originated, I guess you'd call. Mark Twain was the original standup humorist. And he would charge a dollar. Cause he also went. He would get rich and go broke. And then, you know, he. There was, you know, Ulysses S. Grant had cancer, was dying. And like, you know, back then, they didn't give money to the former president, so he helped him pen his autobiography so he can make money for his wife, pay for the farm, blah, blah, blah. And then he would go blow all his money, come back, and then he'd get money again by performing like a town hall or something. Or a library. I don't know if there was a library. I'm just making that up. But he would charge a dollar to talk about faraway lands. Like Hawaii.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Rob Schneider
No idea. To have over there. You gotta take several weeks to get out there. But now, like, you guys can fly wherever you want and do the things. So. So for me, the nice joke that I could relate to was based on something that really happened, was. It was really fun. It was really fun. Listen to Me, but I was in Vegas. I was playing Vegas and you know, the MGM grand, which is a good gig on the strip. That's a good one. And I had went out to lunch with the guys, the band I'm working with. And the Mexican waiter was really nervous. And I said, you know, are you okay? And he said, Mr. Snyder, there is. I'm nervous because I know her legally, so I worry that the ICE can come take. To take me back to Mexico. And I felt terrible, you know, and you know, these are the guys we want here in this country. People working hard, you know. Then he completely fucked up our order. And I was like, get this guy out of here. You know, you can't fuck up lunch. That's the most important meal of the day. You know what I'm saying? You can fuck up breakfast, dinner. But like, as soon as I got the check, I called ICE and at table 47. Got to get over here. But it's. But I like it because it just plants a little seed in there, you know, and people can feel either way they want, but I'm not. You can't lecture them about stuff. And that's the, I would say American comedy now we have to be careful that it, you know, we've come out of that Covid tyranny and we want to, you know, I think to, you know, which was the best for me, the best part of Peter Cook, Dudley Moore was the silly, you know, the best money pie. They were just the silliest king, as Cleese. John Cleese would say. But, you know, the one legged Tarzan, I mean, that Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch, it doesn't get any better than that, you know. No, he's auditioning for the role of Tarzan. He's got one leg. It's just, you know, it shook everything up.
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Trigger Podcast Host
So you're saying now you fear there's a lot of seriousness creeping into comedy and kind of people are, you know, going very heavy on their opinions.
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Rob Schneider
I think so. And I think the audience is. I mean, I have to be careful of that too, you know, because I'm a conservative. Well, I mean, I'm a 90s liberal, which makes me a right wing fascist. Right. We all are. No, God forbid we stick to those, you know, free speech and, you know, women's rights and things like that. Crazy stuff. So I have to be careful too that, you know, I don't fall into that easy trap of just, you know, throwing, throwing slop to the conservative, you know, masses, which is what kind of late night TV Was, you know, the late night tv. You can, it's, there's no individual voices you can replace and go like, you know, but Jimmy Kimmel could say the same joke as, you know, Seth Meyers and then you could put like, you know, you know, and then, you know, the other Jimmy can. So it doesn't, the other Jimmy. So you can have, you can have. It's the same thing. It's like, what is, where's the point? Is there any individual voices? And it's just, it's too easy. You never heard Norm MacDonald, you know, saying during the pandemic, you know, easy, you make, make, make a joke about Trump, they'll just applaud. You know, you do that, you know, where's the, you know, where's the danger there? And I, I do think it's, it's definitely more fun, but it is more dangerous. You know, I mean, they, they're killing, there's violence happening, you know, and so that's. We have to have gun checks at comedy shows.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah, but why wouldn't you? I mean, we were talking not to change, you know, direction, but unfortunately we kind of have to. You. We were talking before we started about Charlie Kirk. I mean, that's one of the things that happened since we last saw you.
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Rob Schneider
Yes.
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Trigger Podcast Host
And he was a friend of yours.
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Rob Schneider
Charlie was, is irreplaceable. Charlie was such a, I mean, I, I honestly as a comedian and as a humorist and, and as a real, a cynic, I think you have to be cynical in, to approach comedy. What's really behind that? So I would get these calls from, from him, from his organization and then from him saying, you know, we want you to be involved in, you know, Turning Point. And I was like, what is this 28 year old kid? What is he? What, what's going to be something behind this? There's always something, you know, whatever. And I didn't realize what he had built. This was this incredible organization of young people. If you want to change the future or if you want to return the future to some traditional American values, Christian American values, then you got to build an organization to remind people what is the potential loss of not maintaining that. So I learned pretty quickly. I was still a little, you know, I'm still questioning it and going like, I don't know, what is it? But then I found it to be really sincere and his, his, his organization and his, what his quest was, was to keep, you know, America a, a nation under God and, and free. And that was a, at a tremendous loss. I Mean, we were supposed to go because I said to him, because it was fun. You show up at a university with Charlie Kirk, and I'm telling you, the kids will come up stuff, and they ask questions. And I really liked it. It was such a generous thing that he would do. He'd put the microphone down. And I said, if you disagree with me, come to the front. And he was saying, constantly saying, when the conversations stop, that's when the violence begins. And he was right. They. The leftists, you know, if they can't be. They can't beat you with debate. They would shout you down. They'd prevent you from speaking. And, you know, this specifically, you know, they. How dare you disagree with it. And that voice is silenced. So I'm hopeful that will, you know, his organization will continue to inspire young people. We. I asked him, I said. I said, well, I want to. I want to go to the craziest place with you. Where is that? I said. We said what? I said, no, I'm going to go to the craziest university where they'll be like. And he said, well, then we'll go to Berkeley. They go, let's go to Berkeley. And then I had to go to Berkeley without him. And there was riots to stop a comedian for talking. Just a riot. Literally a riot. I'm suing the University of Cal Berkeley for. I don't know what the number will be, but more than a dollar, I promise you, because it's. And that was the. And thankfully, Peter Bosian and, you know, your countryman Andrew Doyle was kind enough. I invited them to come with me to buttress my ignorance.
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Francis
And.
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Rob Schneider
But there's an interesting thing, because about free speech, it isn't just what our lawsuit's about. It's not just the ability for you to speak freely and somebody to stop that. It's also free speech. The other side of that is the. The ability for someone to. To have the right to the freedom of speech, to hear the speech. And that's the other side. So I think that's important because the university, they were such assholes. They insisted Cal Berkeley regents and the. The, you know, I don't know who was in charge of that over there, whether it was the dean or somebody made the decision. They said, we insist on getting 500 tickets, and they would give it to this liberal organization. So just so that 500 people can come. And then there was 500 empty seats. We could have easily had 2,000 people there. And. And then they also called people who had tickets, like friends of mine Because I'm from Northern California. Interestingly, that used to be the free speech. That's where free speech on university campus started, 1964. And, and then they told me, oh, your tickets are no longer good. So then there's really a riot coming in and the police come in. It was just, it was just unreal. But the idea that you can silence other people just because you disagree, I mean, that, that has to be. I mean, I'm still waiting for the Democrats to say that's not good.
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Francis
I think you might be waiting for a, you know, I mean, there's, there's some Democrats that I think have potential. Josh Shapiro, for instance.
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Rob Schneider
I think so. Yeah.
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Francis
You know, he talks about what the Democrats used to talk about in the 90s. He seems like a decent guy.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah.
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Francis
You think, you know, if the Democrats actually put him as, and maybe he got a little bit of a headwind, he might stand a chance.
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Rob Schneider
Well, I think, you know, if the, if Americans approved anything, they have no memory of anything. They just move on to the next thing, you know, 25 years after 9, 11, you got a Muslim mayor and you have, like, prayer outside, which is a, as you guys know, it's a form of dominance. And conversation may take a turn at this point. So we'll see. I mean, I'm still buoyant. I mean, I do think that for sure, the weak leadership seems to bring about more difficult times. And I think we're seeing a reset, a global reset. And I think you're seeing, with Donald Trump, I would just say to the people who, they dismiss him, I say you do that at your own peril because it's very strategic. What he's doing right now. The. There is a global reset happening right now with Venezuela. You know, you know, people worried about, you know, Venezuelans as far as they're going to, you know, these are people, they're going to protest. They're going to say, no, no, no. Here's what you never hear about. They're Catholic. You never hear this. A Catholic guy jumped on a train and stabbed nine people today. You never hear that. You never hear like, Tibetan monk hijacked an airplane and flew it into a building. You know, you don't hear, Chinese woman drove a van into a Christmas market. Well, you did.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, only by accident.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah, yeah. She's looking for.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Sorry, did I steal your punchline?
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Rob Schneider
She was looking for a parking space. You know, there's a parking space. I know, I know. I used, when I go on Jay Leno, he used to do that to Me too. Hey, hey. Figure out the joke. I said, of course you figure out the joke. You're a comedian.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Sorry, brother, I apologize.
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Rob Schneider
Hey, Sam. That's like being on Jay again. No, but comedians, they know that. They know where the joke is.
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Francis
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Trigger Podcast Host
We had Jay Jelen on the show actually. Yeah, A while ago. We recorded in his car garage.
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Rob Schneider
Oh, fantastic.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
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Rob Schneider
He's an incredible guy.
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Trigger Podcast Host
He's such a nice guy.
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Rob Schneider
He was the best comedian of his generation. And it was also really helpful. He was like. He would tell you guys, like, hey, how much time you got? I remember like, you know, in the 80s, like I said, I got about eight minutes. Good. Yeah, I'm glad you. Eight minutes. Most comedians add, I got two hours, you know, who wants to hear two hours of comedy material? You know, if you don't have five minutes of kills anytime, everywhere you go, you got nothing. He was right. Gets it. All you need to become a star in LA is 20 minutes. 20 minutes to become a star. And it's true. And it was just like, I mean, it seemed like a long time when you're 20. But by the time I was 24, all I had was 20 minutes. It was the most I ever had at that time. And the only other guys who had 20 minutes was like Chris Rock, David Spade, or maybe Chris Rock had 30, but David Spade, Adam Sandler and me, we all got on, you know, that was the beginning. You only need 20 minutes to become a thigh. But he was great. All those guys would be helpful. The greats, like, you know, you know, Jerry Seinfeld, one of the greatest comedians we've ever had. Just the structure, if you look at it, it looks you could build a house on the way he forms jokes, you know, and he would say to us young comedians, because back then they're like, in the early 80s, there were like bars that they would turn into comedy clubs. And 120 seats, you know, if you do enough shows, it make like 10,000 bucks. You make enough. And that was like. He would do that. By that time, by 84, I think he'd done, or 83, he'd done like 42 tonight shows.
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Francis
Wow.
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Rob Schneider
42 five minute spots.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Wow.
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Rob Schneider
And then we'd watch him and the structure of his stuff was so great, you know, and he would just have like the simplicity of his thing, which is almost like an English thing, with like, he would say a little joke. Like magic is just to make you feel stupid. Here's a quarter. Now it's gone. You're a jerk. It's just a wonderful simplicity. And then after we'd all hang out, you know, try to get some, you know, some nuggets of wisdom by the master, you know. And did you? Yeah, he said to me, listen, guys, you got to take the swearing out. If you take the swearing out and it's not funny without the swearing, then that's not funny. And I was like, wow, he's right, because we can rely on it too much. And then I shook his hand, you know, and thank you, Jerry. He went to leave, I went to shake his hand and he was like, it's the same hand. Very funny though, because about it, literally two years later, I got on David Letterman and he's such a great guy. He just literally is an awesome guy. He really appreciates comedy. And he chased me out of the improv after I did a set. He said, just saw you on Dave, on David Letterman. Said you had balls of iron. And he shook my hand. I'm a really good set man. I used to see young people doing some stuff. And then I waited and he went to go shake my hand again. I was like, it's the same man. I didn't say it, but I wanted to, you know, but he's one of the masters, and it's really frustrating to see, like, a guy who's still performing at a very high level and, like, there would be protesters. It's like, come on, can't you. Isn't it the. Isn't the LBGTQ for Hamas protested. You have to protest Jerry Seinfeld, one of the greatest comedians who still doesn't have to do it, but he's still doing it because he loves it. So that's kind of a bummer. So we have that at the same time. But I do think that this friction and this stuff, I think the. The woke kind of thing is collapsing. I think people are exposed to enough of it, so hopefully it'll usher in something new. I don't know what the new thing is, but, you know, it's. It's been. It's been an interesting time. I would say the most interesting time of my lifetime for comedy, because there were people yelling at you. People like paying money to yell at you. It was during COVID too, because Covid is. It was really cool because we have a republic over here. I strongly suggest you guys consider it. You break it. Different states, you know, that way the states would have different rules. A lot of the states went along with it, but some states hung in there, you know, so you. I would go to a place and they would perform, and it'd be like, you know, you'd have to have, you know, somebody sitting not across from you or something. So they had half the comedy club, and I. So I would just perform in those places. And so those places closed down and then start. And then, believe it or not, it wasn't Americans. The reason that we got out of COVID It was. It wasn't the Americans that figured out the protesting again. It was the Canadians. The Canadian truckers reminded Americans about protesting and a good protesting. Protesting against actual tyranny, not this fake tyranny that the. These no kings paid protesters are the useful idiots. So. But real protests against tyranny, which is what the COVID lockdowns were. And these, you know, the truckers that went there, what did they do? They. They literally closed their bank accounts. And, you know, that. That seemed to be, you know, if that's not authoritarian and calling them. And calling them terrorists, that's pretty bad, you know, so. But. But what it did, though, is it woke people up here in America to it. Like, enough of this crap.
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Francis
Yeah.
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Rob Schneider
Which was good. So whether people like the COVID vaccine or not, I mean, obviously it has some problems and stuff. It's not a vaccine. According to Robert Malone, who invented the. Or co invented the therapy. It's an experimental gene therapy. So, you know, forcing everybody to take an experimental gene therapy is not good. But what it did, though, Thomas Cahill, who was the designer of it, who was asked by the Trump administration, he's a genius. You got to meet Thomas Cahill. And what it did was it gave an off ramp. Like, hey, we got something. We can open up society now. Here we go. We got the jab, let's go. So that gave an off ramp to it. And I don't know if people will. It's interesting how the next. What is the next attempt at tyranny, but they've backed off this Zero Carbon initiative. You don't hear about it anymore, right?
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Francis
I mean, you do in our country.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah. Well, it's actually an interesting situation because in the uk, the only people who still believe in it are the government. No one else believes in it, but the government really, really believe in it. And actually the worst things get, the more they believe in it. So they're like, okay, this war in Iran is going to cause global price, oil prices to spike and stay up for God knows how many months. Yeah, that shows you we can't be relying on fossil fuels.
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Rob Schneider
Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Except we still have to be relying on fossil fuel.
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Rob Schneider
Now, it'll impoverish the whole plan if you want to go to have star mass starvation right away, go off fossil fuels. But what Trump is doing with President Trump and you is that global reset. If you can control the oil, it's not about having all of it, but if you can control it and then all of a sudden China has to work with you because unfortunately, what you really had was you can have all the sanctions against Russia and China that you want, but if they're able to get oil from Iran and Venezuela, then they can circumvent all these problems. But if America has got a. A nice healthy stranglehold on Iran and Venezuela, then the Chinese will have to work with us in a way that they don't want to, but they'll have to now. So I think in that way, it is, you know, the idea that we. It's actually strong men make the world. I guess there's a revulsion from it, from the 20th century experience of World War II, that anytime there's a strong man that comes up. It's like authoritarianism comes I would just say we should be aware that when weak weakness happens, that's when the authoritarian comes up, as we witness under Covid.
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Francis
You know, it's so funny when you talk to Venezuelans about what happened in Venezuela because you hear people going, oh, this is a coup. This is terrible. You talk to a Venezuelan, they're like, I know, I like it. Very good. No, no, no, we not like Maduro. Bye, bye.
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Rob Schneider
Well, that's what you have to. We have to. We have to weigh like, what. How much freedom. If you want complete freedom. Freedom, it's chaos. And so you have to. We'd rather have more chaos than if you want complete control. Then you'd have tyranny or something. But then you have something that was so chaotic and so out of control. Like if you look at El Salvador, that was just, you know, the murder capital, the kidnapping cap. People could. Kids couldn't go to school and it was just, it was just, you know, you couldn't open up a little stand and sell food without being somebody coming in. So, you know, Bukele has changed that country. He calls himself the coolest dictator. And I would just go, well, how much freedom? If it's destroying your society, why are you willing to give up for some control? And that's the gaze, you know, that's the, that's what we're. That's kind of what we're looking at.
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Francis
But to go back to comedy, it's a very interesting time because we were talking about, you know, the woke up and the backlash and they're trying to silence voices. But hasn't that always been the case? I mean, take Bill Hicks. I mean, Bill Hicks used to go to the Deep south and do jokes about Christianity. Laughing again. Laughing about Christianity when it wasn't cool, when it literally, you know, could have endangered your life.
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Rob Schneider
I don't know about that. I don't know. I don't think it would have. I mean, I think you would. Had protesters just like there was protesters when the Life of Brian came out, because it would just happen to do. Be the, you know, because it had to do with Christianity at all. But I thought, you know, that, you know, was consistently rated the greatest comedy, British comedy of all time. And it was hilarious, but it was. But I, you know, as John Cleese and Michael Palin would say, he wasn't. They didn't change one word of the Sermon on the Mount, but they. It's just the fact that what's funny is like somebody who couldn't hear it. I think he Said, blessed are the cheese makers. That's funny. So to have him an open mind to that. But I don't believe that even Bill Hicks in that day was. Life was endangered. I think he had people who were angry at him, but not in the same way like you will have. As Ayaan Hirsi Ali says, you know, you can have the Book of Mormon, but let's see you guys write the Book of Muhammad. See how long that stays open.
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Trigger Podcast Host
I'll pass on that one. Thank you.
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Rob Schneider
But isn't the cultural fear. The cultural fear of that you can't even say it without thinking, oh, yeah, you could never do that.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, Jimmy Carr has a great joke about this, which is, you know, a lot of Christians complain that you make fun of Christians, but you don't make fun of Islam. And he was like, well, stop blowing shit up. You know, then I'll. I'll not make fun of Christians either.
- [28:36]
Rob Schneider
That's so perfect. But I think, though, with this challenge, I think it's good because what you're seeing now in the United States and what I'm talking about now in State, which is, I think is you have to challenge them and push them. That's. Otherwise, it's not fun. You gotta be some kind of contrarian. So it's nice talking about. The interesting that's happening is women. Like, white liberal women.
- [28:56]
Trigger Podcast Host
Here we go.
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Francis
I love the way you said that. It's women.
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Trigger Podcast Host
White liberal women. Yeah, there we go.
- [29:02]
Rob Schneider
It's nothing to do with that. I'm divorced now. This is women. No, women.
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Francis
No.
- [29:08]
Rob Schneider
But is that they were doing things that are against their best interest, putting themselves in danger. Whereas, you know, men, you know, traditionally, that's what they do. And men have that. They're used to it. Every guy, by the time they're a teenager, you know, you meet another guy at some point, you know, still you go, you still think a little bit like, if I have to kick this guy's ass, I mean, could I. I mean, is he gonna beat my ass? You know, if he has cauliflower ears, you go, okay, this guy doesn't care about his face. I'm gonna leave him alone. This is a part of his face. He doesn't. He's not brought. Doesn't have a problem with looking messed up. And so. But women don't have that. So I was saying that's why women put themselves in positions of danger that they're not used to. That's what happened in, you know, in Minnesota, you know, and. And it's a Women could be emotionally manipulated to do something that puts them in danger because for the cause. That manipulation, that emotional manipulation, like, this woman wasn't even a lesbian. She was like, she was straight for the cause. She became, you know, into this. She got roped into this to become a lesbian during, you know, for the cause. And I was like, that's the difference between men and women. I don't care what the cause is.
- [30:13]
Trigger Podcast Host
I'm not taking a dick up my ass, pretty much.
- [30:17]
Rob Schneider
So. But. But what? I tried to build to the point about how women could be emotionally manipulated. And I said, you know, 85% of white men, liberal women, voted for Kamala Harris to save democracy, even though Kamala Harris wasn't even put in democratically. They just, you know, they just took Joe Biden out, you know, that Joe Biden, basically a corpse attached to a car battery, you know, which the Democrats still don't admit to, that his brain wasn't functioning, and they just put Kamala in to save the democracy. So the joke is, you know, replacing Joe Biden, Kamal Harris is like changing your shirt because you shit your pants. And then. Then everybody feels like they got their money's worth.
- [30:55]
Trigger Podcast Host
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- [31:59]
Rob Schneider
Yeah, it was too controversial, you're right. So there. There was a. Yeah, I think it was a stricter time, I think. But I think that's obviously a mistake. But I don't think it's the same kind of jeopardy as, like, Charlie Headbow, you know, So I think the. But I. Anytime you go up against. We have to go up against the societal. Whatever the constructs are, we have to be contrarians, otherwise we're not doing our job. But it is. It can be dangerous as far as. I mean, I have to have gun checks. It shows, and it's dangerous to leftists, you know, so it's nuts to me. I mean, not nuts that we have guns in America. I'm all for it, you know, I didn't used to be, but now I understand.
- [32:44]
Trigger Podcast Host
Do you have the audience lock their phones in a pouch?
- [32:47]
Rob Schneider
I don't do that because I don't think it matters anymore. I used to think they could get canceled, but once they've tried to cancel you so many times and you survive, you're like, what can they do to me at this point? You know?
- [32:56]
Francis
Yeah.
- [32:56]
Rob Schneider
And also, if they want to do it, I mean, I think it's kind of a childish. I do think, though, for the, you know, the guys who are making, like, you know, $40 million on Netflix, they don't want to get their jokes out too early. I get that. But at this point, I don't think it's. I used to do that, but it's expensive.
- [33:12]
Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah.
- [33:13]
Rob Schneider
You got to bring the pouches. And then it's also a pain in the ass for them. The audience, like, let them be adults if they want to go on their phone. People are addicted to their phones.
- [33:20]
Trigger Podcast Host
No, no. The reason I bring it up is. And it's something I think about with podcasting now as well, because what happened was you had the mainstream media, which basically thought that everyone in the world had the attention span of a mosquito. Right. And they whittled the sound bite down to, like, this. Right.
- [33:37]
Rob Schneider
And then the opposite is, you guys.
- [33:38]
Trigger Podcast Host
And then the podcast came along, went. But now what's happening is. And we've even had. Had guests who shall remain nameless who go, like, so was there a clip in that?
- [33:48]
Rob Schneider
I just go, no.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Like, with all respect, I mean, I understand. I have clips of mine. You have clips of yours going out on things. That's totally cool.
- [33:55]
Rob Schneider
So.
- [33:55]
Trigger Podcast Host
But it changes the. The act of making it. This changes the thing it does. And the same with stand up, I think. And it's the same with, like, you know, you're trying our material, recording something out of context online, all of that. That's why I was asking.
- [34:09]
Rob Schneider
No, you're right about that, because, you know, because I Do ask at some point for women to. I try to get them to a point where I'm manipulating, you know, subverting them to, you know, just like, because they're emotionally manipulated that you can manipulate, you know, for that. So I try to get their empathy and go, you know, it's because you're so, you know, you have so much empathy and compassion. That's why you raise children. That's why there's so many of us. You're incredible men. But then I get to the point where you can be manipulated to use this empathy for people who don't deserve it. And then I ask them to reconsider their right to vote. But then I say, no, no, no, there's still plenty of things to vote for. You can still vote. I'm not saying you can't vote, I'm just saying just not for the important things. But there's still plenty of things. You can still vote for. Dancing with the Stars, America's Got Talent, Britain's Got Talent, whatever. But the idea is just to challenge them a little bit and try to get them off. And then you take some ideas and then it's the ideas to poke them a little bit and see where they go. And so a lot of the women agree. A lot of the women. Not all of them. A lot of them agree. And then some people complain. But I think it's, I think it should be a well constructed, humorous argument.
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Francis
Yeah.
- [35:21]
Rob Schneider
Otherwise it's not, it's not fun.
- [35:23]
Francis
Yeah.
- [35:23]
Rob Schneider
So it's nice that they agree. And sometimes I'll screw up. Sometimes I did not do my job by getting in there because it's still kind of new. And then you go like, you know, and then it's like, I gotta kind of get them back, you know. Yeah. But it's a good challenge. And then you can wait.
- [35:38]
Trigger Podcast Host
How do you get a woman back once you've pissed her off?
- [35:40]
Rob Schneider
Because you don't.
- [35:41]
Trigger Podcast Host
I haven't worked that one out my entire life.
- [35:44]
Rob Schneider
I'm proof of that. Yeah, very painful. But it, it's fun though because, you know, there's some really interesting intellectuals and like, you know, Jordan Peterson's been such a gift to the, to the male spirit, really. And he had this wonderful thing that I talk about now on stage. It's great because I'm not going to have to interfere with his. Him doing stand up. But I can, you know, you talk to him and I'll say, oh, yeah, well, let me tell you, the women that we have today, we have, they're all Survivors of the barbarian hordes that came in and they, all the barbarians would come into the new armies. They kill all the men, cut their heads off, and they say, okay, we're going to cut your heads off or you want to come with us? And the loyal women who got all their heads cut off, they stayed and died next to their husband. But the ones, but the ones who said, I've always been interested in seeing Germany, let's go, those are the ones that survive. So all. And I said this to all the women here tonight in this audience, you are the survivors. You were the ones who left with the new husbands. And, you know, and what was too far was when I'd say to them, every woman in here is a traitor. And I was like, that was too much, but you have to try that. But then. And I go, but it's, it's fun to. And then I have them. They're my favorite things. I'll tell the audience to look at it. I don't want you to look at the guy, guys. I want you to look at the woman you're with right now. Just look at her. Tell her, I know what you're capable of. But anyway, I don't know. I mean, I hope it doesn't come off like it's angry, but it's, it's definitely angry, but it's fun and I hope it's, it's a, it's a challenge and to try to do things that are interesting.
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Francis
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Rob Schneider
Unbelievable.
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Francis
Recorded in 1982 in the red suit. In the famous red suit. And he was.
- [39:09]
Rob Schneider
No, I think it was earlier than that one. Was it live on the Sunset Strip? I think his first one was Richard Pryor Live. And it was late 70s. It was in Long beach still. As much as comedy's progressed since then, it's still basically the same guy. They had a guy standing by the stage. You know, it's interesting, that first one where he had the red sweating and the thing. I'm sure of all kinds of cocaine coming through the thing. But that was still. We're still doing the same kind of thing. We're still. He's. He was the guy. The statue of David. We're all cheating. But what. The other one that Live in the Sunset Strip, that maybe that was 1982.
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Francis
It was, yeah. Second one, yeah. And he was talking about going to prison and he was saying about, you know, I've met, you know, we've met Muslims, but in prison they've got these double Muslims. And he did a bit about Islamic fundamentalists in 1982, in jail. And you're going, this, you know, this is what comedy is and should be. That's why he was the greatest double Muslims.
- [40:04]
Rob Schneider
The greatest comedy performer ever, for sure. I got to meet him once when he was doing Donahue. This is like 19, I think 91. That's when Phil Donahue before Oprah. And they said, you know, Richard Pryor's in the building. So what Pryor. Richard Pryor is in the. Where is. He's Dundon. He's like, you know, and I had said, go, go get a comedy album so I can sign something. They didn't get it in time, but. And I went down and, you know, because I was 30, rock is where Saturday Night Live was. And I was a writer performer there. So, like, I go anywhere I want, so I get the security, you know, Don, he's like, hey, can I go through? It's like, yeah, Come on in, Rob again. And then his dressing room. And I said, I'm Rob. Can I get in there? And I said, yeah, come on in there. And then Prior was just sitting there himself, you know, and. And I said, you know, Mr. Pryor, that stand. That first standup performance in Long beach, that was like the greatest standup. We're still stealing from you all these years. And he didn't deny it. And. And I said, that was just incredible. And I said, that's the greatest performance ever. No one's gonna top that. And he said to me, you should have seen that shit. Six months later, I'm just starting to figure that shit out. I believed him. Yeah, because it just grows and grows. I'm sure I would have loved to have seen it six months later. But then he did that live in the Sunset, which was good. Didn't have the danger of that first one, you know, so that. That first one he made fun of white people was screamingly funny. It was Long beach, and most of the people at the show were white people. And he said, white people. Some white people don't play that shit. Like, all right, cut the shit. You know? And there's like, that's the quintessential black impersonation of a white guy. And I like to do impressions of black people. Even though it's not Derek Air anymore, it's not allowed. But I would say, like, my favorite, you know, people who recognize me, it's because people come up to you because they. Because I'm the same size as I am on tv. My favorite are black women that come up to me. Black women are different than other people when they come up, because black women make you prove who you are. Tell me why I know you. Tell me why I know you. I'm a comedian. That ain't it. Tell me why. So that. That's kind of fun. And then.
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Trigger Podcast Host
So what do you say?
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Rob Schneider
I said, I'm a comedian. That ain't it. I went like, no, no, no. I am a comedian. Okay? So it's. But I just think it's like, we got to make fun of everybody. Like, there's one thing. My favorite thing is a good laugh in the audience. Because I talk about being, you know, my mom's Filipino, my dad. I don't get into that too much, but I talk about being Asian and be. You know, it's a system of white supremacy, you know, we're surprised at. He said, how come Asians are making more money then? You never hear about it, because Asians don't want you to know, in America, Asians are no, let the black and white people kill each other. We're going to hang over here. We stay over here in the suburbs. And. But I said, you know, that's what I talk about for what is, you know, for years saying about, like, we got to get rid of diversity, equity, inclusion. If you want to have the best society, we need the best at each position. So, you know, that's why you have, you don't see Filipino Jews like me in professional sports. Because you want to win, right? Right. You want to win, right? And you see Filipinos, we're good nurses. That's what we do. You know, we're good at that. And usually there's a Filipino in the audience. And usually they work at a hospital if they don't, that's when I say, you know, you're not living up to your potential. And I said, and it was based on a true story. I said, I'm sorry, I don't want a seven foot black guy. It's not racist, but I don't want a seven foot black guy trying to take blood out of my arm. You know, they're like, shit, come on, bitch. What's wrong with you?
- [43:44]
Francis
Babe, come on. Shit.
- [43:46]
Rob Schneider
Get out of there. Let me see champagne. Dude, your finger's as big as my dick. Can you go find an Asian person to finish this? But everybody kind of, they can relate to that. And it's, it's fun and hopefully disarming.
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Trigger Podcast Host
And do you know, I miss that so much. We were talking with, with the young guys that work with us as well. It's just that I miss that world where people made fun of each other and it was cool because we made fun of everybody and everybody made fun of everybody. And everyone knew that it wasn't malicious.
- [44:16]
Rob Schneider
Yes. No. No mal intent.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Right?
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Rob Schneider
That's the key. That's why Adam Sandler's film is so important. He makes fun of people, but he's not trying to hurt anybody. But I remember there used to be this bookstore called B. Dalton. And right by the cash register there'd be these rows of comic, of just books, comedy books, simple jokes that make fun of every nationality. It's like Italian joke book, Polish joke book, Irish joke book. And I just remember, you know, before you'd buy it, you'd look before you, whatever thing you're gonna buy, you'd look up the Italian one. How. The Italian, Italian airline, it's the one with the hair under the wings, you know, and. But that was acceptable. And I'd like to go back to that, but I think we've been beaten down by the people who are the most, you know, as your countryman John Cleese said, I don't think the ones who most sensitive should be the ones deciding what everybody else gets to listen to and watch, you know, and he's right about that. But it was a thing. But I think I had a conversation with Jerry seinfeld at the 50th anniversary of SNL because I really took umbrage to what he said. Like, listen, no, the woke doesn't stop you from doing comedy. What are you talking about? I don't believe it. And I said, no, they do. You cancel them and they try to get you to not be on. And he said, no, that's not what I meant. I meant you just have to work harder to get around to get your joke. He didn't say that in that interview. But, but I think it is, I do think you have more opportunity for it. It's just you don't want to get, you know, shot by a crazy fucking leftist, you know, that that takes things too seriously. And that, that was the problem of like, you know, for, you know, for Charlie Kirk was like, these people are accusing him of racism without any actual racism. He was just asking young people to ask more from themselves and to think for themselves as opposed to being, you know, what's happening at the universities and academia is they're not teaching you to think critically. They're just cranking out advocates to an illiberal agenda that doesn't have the best interest of these young people. So it was, as that's happening, I am, you know, we have to be positive and we have to, to move, move this country forward. And that's, that's my job. And I know the best way to do that is with jokes. If I write a good joke, I know making the country better. Like, this is California is a great place because you have a lot of liberals here and the conservatives, they don't get. And I come up and tonight it's really funny because I go, hey, it's so beautiful in California. I get it, I get it. It doesn't matter that your votes don't count. It doesn't matter because so beautiful. It's so beautiful in California. Maybe women do have dicks. It's so beautiful.
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Trigger Podcast Host
But you know what is how we feel every time we come here, because, you know, the most common thing Francis and I say to each other when we arrive in California, spend a couple of days Soak in the sun. Will I see something in the news over another side of the world? And I just go, francis, do you give a shit about what's happening?
- [47:16]
Rob Schneider
Yeah.
- [47:17]
Trigger Podcast Host
He's like, no. And I'm like, I don't either. And now it's hard, it's hard to care because it's so perfect. But that said, you know, every time we've been come here for years now, it gets like less populated. I mean, people, people are leaving.
- [47:30]
Rob Schneider
I know.
- [47:31]
Trigger Podcast Host
They fucking ruined paradise, man.
- [47:32]
Rob Schneider
They did. Well, they have this people who stay here go. It's so fucking beautiful. I got enough money, I'll just eek it out. They can. They want to tax you per mile on your car. The Democrats, because they have a super majority of Democrats. So they don't want to fix any real problems like homelessness. And as I've said, you know, publicly, I said no, look, maybe I'm looking at this wrong. I mean, California either has a huge homeless problem or a gigantic camping success story. Maybe it's both, I don't know. But they'll stay here no matter what because it is so beautiful. Like, I'm almost retired. The kids are here. But the grievance tax, the billionaire tax, the wealth tax, or the what about me tax, why? My money, my hopes, my dreams. It's grievance. And instead of fixing things, instead of fixing the homeless situation, you know, when Chairman Xi came over from China, they got rid of the homeless in San Francisco in one day. But then it's like, ah, let him come back. Because I do think that it's disruptive. And I think in that point the disruptiveness is necessary to cause enough strife. But California, they keep creeping up in these incremental creep to where like I tell this joke and I gotta tell you, it doesn't get as big a laugh here because it hits a nerve. And the joke is pretty. I think I'm giving away all my jokes here.
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Trigger Podcast Host
This won't go out for a few weeks.
- [48:54]
Rob Schneider
So you're good tonight and we'll go. Well, the thing is, I said, I remember. Seriously, like my, my grammar school. The police came to our grammar school, like third grade, and they told the kids, they said, listen, if anybody adult says to you, you got to keep a secret between you and them. Anybody wants to keep a secret, that's an adult between you and a child, that person's called a molester. Okay, you call the police, we'll come right away. Now that person is no longer called molester. Now that person is called California. Public school teachers and it's a people. Oh, and then you. Then I get into the.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah, it's not that funny anymore.
- [49:32]
Rob Schneider
Is that. No.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Sorry to ruin. Sorry I'm not having to go at your joke, but it's like it's kind of serious.
- [49:37]
Rob Schneider
No, people go, yeah, that is like, ah, yeah. But it doesn't get like a. And maybe it shouldn't because there really was. That legislation went all the way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court just last month said, no, no, no, no. Parents can rule, can raise their children the way that they want and not the school. It's not, you know, I didn't co parent with the state, but that's a thing. And then, and then you gotta, you know, you come from another place, which is, which is fun. Which is because it's a true story. It does happen. We have a big population here, you know, and this crazy shit does happen. And I don't know why, specifically for women. Maybe because their relationships aren't safe, whatever. But there are these, these women, fragile women who. Teachers who have sexual relationship with their students. Now just a woman just got arrested in New Jersey last week and she's. And here's how I feel about that in all seriousness, like if a guy does it, you know, takes advantage of a girl student, you know, that they should cut his wiener off and the wiener and him never get back together again. That's it. That guy's, you know, kicked out of society. However, if a female teacher decides to provide some extracurricular activity for her male students off school grounds, I just, I just remember the 80s, you know, remember Hot for Teacher, that song. Remember every movie, you know, Weird Science, all the movies is about this. I just feel this way, you know, respectfully. I like. All I know is if my classmate called the cops before I get a chance to get my blowjob, I'd be pissed.
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Francis
So do you know what? As a former teacher, I don't agree because she should be having sex with me, not the fucking kids.
- [51:24]
Rob Schneider
That's the way I feel about the other teachers, like the science guy or the gym cooking. I was available.
- [51:29]
Francis
My dick was available.
- [51:30]
Rob Schneider
I was ready for.
- [51:31]
Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah, that'll be the clip from this episode. My dick was available.
- [51:36]
Francis
I'm here slugging away. I'm a crap salary.
- [51:39]
Rob Schneider
I'm trying to get these fat kids in shape and this woman could have decently had a relationship with me.
- [51:44]
Francis
Yeah.
- [51:44]
Rob Schneider
But I do think, though out of context like that one might be problematic, like here for pedophilia. Well, you Know, it's a joke, but it's also, you know, doesn't seem to be. But that's just it, though, that there can be. You can get umbrage about anything. But I think the jokes should be, you know, like, to me, like, that's why Dave Chappelle is such a master, because he said something that, like, I would have never gone there, but it's comedians who do. Because when he said the joke about life, these guys are complaining about getting molested by Michael. Michael Jackson. It's like, what a lot of people molested. How many people could say they got molested by Michael Jackson? And I were like, wow, that guy's a genius.
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Francis
Yeah.
- [52:29]
Rob Schneider
You know.
- [52:30]
Francis
Yeah.
- [52:30]
Rob Schneider
And he gets away with it, of course, because, you know, there's something beautiful about that joke.
- [52:34]
Francis
Well, Chappelle was the guy who helped break Woke. I don't think he gets enough props, actually, because when he came out and he did the special, I think was called the Closer.
- [52:43]
Rob Schneider
Yes.
- [52:44]
Francis
And we've also got to give props to Ted Sarandos and Netflix. Yeah, Ted, I've got a book coming out soon. We can work together. But no, but genuinely, because what happened was they. Would you remember the protests? And they were. And they were saying that we need to take down the Closer. It was transphobic. And there were protests from Netflix employees.
- [53:03]
Rob Schneider
And Netflix, they should have fired every one of those employees. You're. Hey, I'm sorry you don't like it. You know what? You don't have to watch it. You know what? You can do this thing, turn it, or you can turn it down, or. Here's another thing. You can find another job. Sorry. But, you know, I understand, you know, Ted is a great guy, and he is doing. Trying to do the right thing, and he did stand up for the most part, for Chappelle. I mean, he did then later apologize, if you noticed.
- [53:28]
Francis
I didn't know. I didn't notice the apology.
- [53:30]
Rob Schneider
Yeah, you did. But Ted's great. And I love you, Ted, and seriously, you're the greatest. But no, I think I'm 100% behind you. But I, I, you know, and I don't mean to, but I'm going to the, the. The. The Dave Chappelle last special that he did where he, where he. On Charlie Kirk. To be honest with you, I thought that was.
- [53:50]
Trigger Podcast Host
I thought that was.
- [53:50]
Rob Schneider
I thought it was terrible what he did. I honestly, like, because he was talking about the comparisons to, you know, to Martin Luther King and the. And say, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, that's that's not Charlie. There's other people that did this. And, and Charlie was an incredible. And he wasn't like an influencer. That's totally. That's a guy who, with all his largess and his incredible success and his incredible, you know, he is, you know, our greatest comedian in America. But I think, though, that that largess has managed to keep him in his own gigantic, successful echo chamber, whereas Charlie was just trying to get kids to talk. He wasn't an influencer. He was a Christian. A Christian who wanted to bring people closer to Christ. He was someone who was a nationalist and a Christian. He's a Christian nationalist. No, he was a Christian and a nationalist. A Christian first. He was a believer in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. He's my Lord and savior. I'm a Christian as well now, but he's also nationalist. Now. Nationalism has this thing where I don't like the negative connotations to it. Yes, nationalism. If you're trying to expand your nation, that can be bad. You know, we need more room. We need the Sudetenland on half of Poland. Well, that, that's in its expansion. It can be, you know, a negative thing. But if you're trying to protect your nation, nationalism. Nationalism is required. So I, I didn't, I didn't like that description. And I would just say that, you know, Charlie Kirk was, was, wasn't like these other leaders. That's the thing that was, to me, I'm still wrestling with it, like, you know, six months, seven months later. He wasn't like rfk. He wasn't like Martin Luther King. He wasn't like jfk. He wasn't like these leaders who did amazing things. And I, and in my mind, I was like, well, God needs people who have these flaws that, to do things because they're risk takers. They can put themselves out there more than others in a way that could be beneficial to society and, you know, God's plan, whatever. And Charlie Kirk was an exception because he didn't have those. That he didn't have those flaws in his personality. He was just a genuinely incredible guy. And, and I think that that's an exception that I, you know, that I didn't see coming. That is a gigantic loss for us. So we'll see.
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Francis
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Trigger Podcast Host
is you would have thought, I think, when something like that happened that people would rally around, pull together, honor his memory. Yeah, but I saw you making some jokes, you know, about some of the people who are having a go at his wife, claiming she's involved. I mean, what do you make of all that?
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Rob Schneider
Well, I think if the right, if the conservative movement can do anything, it can try to destroy itself. And so anytime it gets, we got power, how do we ruin it? Well, there is a divisiveness happening because there is a void, Charlie, that void, and people trying to take it and fill it, sometimes in a negative way. And I do think there is a negative thing happening, and it happens with any group that would take power. The liberals obviously abused it, and now it's the conservatives turn. But there is a certain ugliness. There are people that are, you know, there's our good friend Frank Turek, who was Charlie's biblical scholar because I had a public speaking engagement with Charlie's beautiful, wonderful wife Erica, who's taken over the organization. It's not something she wanted. This is something that was thrust upon her and she's doing. And I had a conversation, so I asked Frank, I said, what are the, you know, give me some help here, some biblical, you know, points of interest that I could bridge in the conversation. And he brought up Exodus 22:22, and he brought up Deuteronomy 19. Basically talks about how God will protect and seek vengeance on those who take advantage of the fatherless and the widows. And it was very powerful. And so I think you're seeing that. I mean, I think if evil is anything, it's a degradation of something good. So it's something beautiful like lovemaking and man and a woman, the sacred thing that could be degraded into pornography, you know, beautiful sanctity of God's marriage, divorce, you know. So I think also, you know, a pride in country, a divisiveness to divide it into sections instead of bringing uniting people together. I think it's. To divide. It would be an evil way to degrade that. So I think we're seeing that as well. I hope people enough will. Will look for the good in it. And I think that luckily there's a lot of so many instances of Charlie speaking and listening to young people that I think hopefully will continue because we need it. He was personally responsible for, I mean, along with Elon Musk, freeing up Twitter for a 22.5% bump. And young people in the election. That's unbelievable. So we'd like to maintain that and keep the young people because this is their country. This is your. You know, it's for you. It's like your nation, the young people, it's up to them. So we want to preserve it and do the best we can to pass it on. And at this point, it does require sacrifice. It does require. You have to put yourself out there and you have to go against the cultural hordes and you have to go against sometimes the tyranny that's at bay. And it's interesting because if you look up Rob Schneider right now, there's a lot of hate and stuff online because I think we should. This is something that is controversial, but I think we should reinstall the military draft and for sure. I mean, a lot of other countries do it. I mean, I would say many, many countries do it. We used to do it here. Because what it would do is be a cohesiveness again, a union and bring people together because, you know, there are no separate religions in foxholes, no separate beliefs. There's no party affiliation. It's just we're all in this together. And I think we need to, for one, get kids in shape, get people, you know, to realize for young people that they need to. Freedom comes with eternal vigilance. But. And it comes with sacrifice. And if you just, you know, I took my kids to Rome and we went to the military cemetery outside Rome, the United States military cemetery. And we said these. This is the ultimate sacrifice, is what Lincoln said. You know, this is the. The final. Described it as the last full measure of devotion for our country. And that is. You see, that guy's 19. This guy was 26. This is Lieutenant Colonel. He died here for our freedoms. This is what the sacrifice is. So I do think it does take a shared sacrifice. And I hope that we'll be able to do that and accomplish a unity that we do need with young people.
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Francis
That's a concern is that we. We do seem to be more and more divided. And maybe we do need something like this, something to come in and go, look, if we can't achieve it naturally, we need an artificial policy to come in and help people. Especially when people are on their phones all the time.
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Rob Schneider
I think so. I think if you can bring people together, regardless of whatever money they have, regardless where they came from, here's another thing that they'll do. If you have. No one is excluded out of this. So if you have a senator's son, if you have Mark Zuckerberg's kid, everybody's going to think twice about putting these kids. Instead of a selective service, instead of just somebody volunteer service, you have this selective service where you have to join. It's going to make people and leaders and hopefully the public think twice about any foreign wars, because it's not just some other kid's kid, it's your kid. And I think that that will be a positive thing for foreign policy as well. You'd have to really think, is this really in our national interest to do this? Is it really? You know, and so I think that that mitigates some of the negatives of it. Like, I don't want to have to go three years. Fuck that, you know, And I do think it'd be good to get kids off their phone. It'd be good to get kids united together as one nation. This divide that's happening, this multiculturalism, this diversity, it's just. It's all a ruse to. To divide. And I think we need to unify. If you're going to have a. If we're going to continue to keep this country going, if we can continue to have Western civilization going, There are some pretty darn good things to Western civilization that we're saving. Rome, London, Londonistan, or whatever you guys call it now. But what are your ideas to save it? Western civilization?
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Francis
What are our ideas as well as save Western civilization? Wow. Now there's. I think number one is installing. Getting people to be grateful for what they have. I think we live in a place where we are permanently anti gratitude. I think, yeah, social media, Instagram really worsens that, exacerbates it. You go on Instagram, you're like, well, I don't know. I have that. Why don't I have a yo.
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Rob Schneider
Why don't I. Yeah, there's a grievance.
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Francis
Yeah.
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Rob Schneider
Envy.
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Francis
Yeah.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Which you. Which I think most people experience at some point. But the trick is to convert it into aspirations.
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Rob Schneider
That's one thing, I mean, about the United States that I think was so unique.
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Trigger Podcast Host
It's what you have here. Even still, even now, you have an aspirational culture.
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Rob Schneider
You do. And it's, you know, because I remember when I was in England in the 90s, I remember hearing somebody saying something, you know, the difference between your country and mine? I think I did an Aussie accent or I do like more of a Cockney one. You know, I love that London has four different accents. Just London itself. These people didn't go over here. But I remember saying like, you know, the difference in the United States generalizing this is this from England. It was an English guy in the 90s, so don't attack me. But in America, like if a guy's driving a pickup truck and he sees somebody but he's driving by the Cadillac and he goes, oh man, someday I'm going to drive a Cadillac just like that dude. But in England, it'd be like some guy's driving a pickup truck and some guy goes, drives behind a Bentley. Someday that asshole's gonna drive a pickup truck just like me.
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Francis
Fuck yeah, ya rich fuck.
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Rob Schneider
You know, So I don't know, is that. Is there anything to that?
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Trigger Podcast Host
That's entirely accurate. Yeah, we talk about it all the time, man. And it's only when we came to America, we actually realized that we thought we were just weird in England. And then we realized, oh, we're just. We just have the attitude that most people in America have. It's why we love coming here. And it's not the shit on Britain. Britain's amazing, amazing place. But the one thing that we lack in the UK that we try and bring back with, you know, with our team and the way we do trigonometry and the people we talk to is that. Which is like, go for it. If you, if you don't have what you want, go for it. Don't blame other people. Don't point your finger. The opportunities. Thanks. Thank God for the Internet, right? Yeah, the Internet is there now. Just go for it. Go make it happen.
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Rob Schneider
You can, you can. That's what's so that's why I think it was so frustrating for the Democrats. They lost this one when Oprah Winfrey's like, it's a system of white supremacy. You may never get to vote again. It's like, shut up. You're a black woman who's a billionaire because of this system that you're shitting on right now. It's just ridiculous. It's absolutely hypocrisy to its zenith. And I think people saw that, you know, and it's like. And I think it's so. I think it's a good thing, but I want to keep progressing and kind of going back. And I think, if anything, there's a cycle that kind of comes back. And I would like to see that cycle come back with the sense of young people taking pride in their nation and in the culture that they have. It's beautiful because I remember, like, the difference is the hordes that came in, back until 1921 in immigration, they came in from Poland, they came in from Italy, they came from Ireland, and they came with a flag. We are American. We don't speak in English. We're America. And they came and they gave to the culture, and the culture took from them. And it was an exchange as opposed to. You know, what's dangerous is people coming into the culture that are taking more out and not putting in. So we have these Somalians who've been here for. Not to pick on Somalians, but I'm gonna pick on Somalians. 10 years. 10 years of being welfare, still stuck on welfare. And it's a, you know, it's a different system than, you know, that you don't realize. Like, I mean, seriously, the most gullible people in America, Minnesota, God bless them. But then I remember I was doing comedy there in the 80s, and they go, like, I was getting gas with our, you know, our car. Back then, we didn't even run a car. Comedian's got a car, he's gonna drive, and I'll pay for gas, whatever, you know. And then they said, oh, you can pay with a check if you want. What are you guys, morons? People just balance the check. That would never happen in California, but in Earth. Yeah, you still pay for the 90s. They're still paying checks at gas stations. And I went like, these are very vulnerable, gullible people. If any Somalian ever gets over here, they're going to rip these people people blind. But, yeah, we have to be careful of people who don't come in with. Well, that's what we're susceptible about in a free society. People coming in who are bad faith actors don't really want to come in to be part of the society. They want to come in and abuse the society and take as much out as they can or have no part to do with it. Just kind of separate or even worse, conquer your society. That doesn't sound like people who are good faith in it. I think people are waking up to that. So I think with that in mind, the bad faith actors, we just need just to recognize them. Because I do think there's a blind spot in the West. I definitely think there's a blind spot with Keir Starmer. I think for sure he's got a huge blind spot for this, you know, and I think it's happening in the West. But there it was interesting to see with Viktor Orban, and hopefully by the time this comes out, he'll have his victory there. You know, I think it's a culture. Each individual culture in Europe is worth saving and is worth having a representation and having a sovereignty. And that, I think, is the most important issue now.
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Francis
So you are a white supremacist.
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Rob Schneider
I'm an absolute white supremacist. I'm a white supremacist in a system of white supremacy, and I look forward to benefiting from it.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Filipino white supremacy, favorite kind.
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Rob Schneider
And keeping the non Filipino Jews down as low as they are suppressing the others.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Rob, always great to see you, man.
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Rob Schneider
Thank you. I'm glad we got to catch up a little bit. So much more to talk about. Next time I'll come over there.
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Francis
Yeah, come over to the uk If
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Rob Schneider
I don't get arrested when I get off the.
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Francis
Yeah, we'll get arrested. We'll get you bailed and we'll take you for a curry.
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Trigger Podcast Host
That's right.
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Rob Schneider
What was I miss? Lee would like. What were some of the impressions you got this time as opposed to your last visit?
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Trigger Podcast Host
I mean, it's. This is very superficial, but it's hard to get past. Before we came, we had 60 consecutive days of rain in Britain, so it was nice to see the sun.
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Rob Schneider
Okay.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Yeah. I know this isn't interesting to anybody but us, but it's the only thing I can think about right now.
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Francis
What else has been. Do you know what? And we've touched on it, but I just love it. I'm like, you talk to American and they go, so, what are you doing, man? What's going on? Tell me. And you're like, oh, well, we're thinking about doing this. And they're like, sure, yeah. Instead of. The UK was like, nah, mate, don't fucking do that. What's the point? Don't bother with that. Do you know? Yeah, just, you know, just stay in your lane, be miserable, get on the antidepressants, fucking kill yourself. Job's a good aren't. And it's nice coming here. Cause people are like, you say, I want to do this. And they go, sure.
- [70:38]
Rob Schneider
Well, you guys are welcome. We welcome you as political free speech refugees from your country.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, one other thing as well is. And I think it ties into this, is like, in Britain, you don't know this, but our studio is a little outside of London. One of the studios that we use. Like, it's a hard thing to get people to drive half an hour.
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Francis
Yeah.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Here people will. We just had someone on the show. We were like, where have you come from? And we're in California. Well, we should have said, actually, we're the Irvine Improv here in California. We were filming in la. Where have you come from? Florida. You just flew all the way across the US to do our show in the uk. We can't get any fucker to drive half an hour, basically. So it's that attitude and that cultural aspirational, go get it mentality that's just infectious. And that's what we love here, you know? And that is something you guys have that's so precious. And I hope you hold on to it because it is what make Made America what it is.
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Rob Schneider
America loves to build people up. They also will tear you down. But it's a weird thing where they're. You know, the French will say that there's no second acts in American lives, but I'm hopeful. I think there are, and I'm living it, so we'll see. I'm excited about what the future holds. I really, really am. But I do think it will. It's going to require some. Some vigilance and some people to. To be proud and say, I'm proud of America. This is an incredible accomplishment. I mean, it really pissed me off when you go to, like. Friend of mine called me, you know, producer, Hollywood producer, He calls me up and he says, I gotta tell you, I'm pissed off. Can you talk to somebody in the Trump administration? Everybody thinks I can just talk. Oh, yeah, I'll get on the phone. Can I talk to Trump? Hello? Is this the Trump administration? If you're a conservative, like, you can you get Trump on the. It's like, no, I can't. But he said, I was just at Monticello. Thomas Jefferson, the third president of the United States. This guy. The Declaration of Independence is incredible. And here's what they say. The. The guide, he said, welcome to Thomas Jefferson's home. Third president and slave owner. He's like, that's the second thing you say. That's the second thing you say. He's like, I think he did more than just that. So I do think there's like a. We have to wrestle back our history and just. It's pretty darn. Good. You know, I seem to remember Thomas Jefferson doing a lot more than just being a slave owner. Seemed to remember him going to Paris and going to London and then deciding, looking around, going, I don't like the way this streets go. Let's not do that in the States.
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Trigger Podcast Host
You know, he was an inventor as well.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah, yeah. He's one of. He's. We're on a grid. When you drive back, you're gonna. You can thank Thomas Jefferson. You're going straight. You're not making a little. You know, I like the little.
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Francis
I do. I like the little windy road.
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Rob Schneider
Can I ask you a question? I'll leave it as a. How terrible do you feel for the guys who had to learn the knowledge and then you don't have to anymore?
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Trigger Podcast Host
And it's all the guys he's talking about London cabbies.
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Francis
Yeah, yeah, the black cabbies.
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Rob Schneider
You see them drive in the 90s, they were still there, driving around with the big blue book on a bicycle, learning the knowledge of how to get around in London because it's impossible to get around London now. They don't have to do that, right?
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Francis
Yeah, they still got to do that. And you still. Yeah, they still got to do that. And the thing is, because London's not the grid system, it's got these nooks and crannies. So you still go there.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah.
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Francis
And it's great to chat with the black cabbies because, you know, you'll sit down, they'll be like, mate, it's not what it used to be.
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Trigger Podcast Host
They're not actually black necessarily. Just for the American audience.
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Rob Schneider
Yeah, they're talking about the black of. Yeah, taxis.
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Trigger Podcast Host
The more you explain it, the worse it sounds.
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Francis
There's a yellow tag. Yeah, yellow taxi.
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Trigger Podcast Host
They're the ones that always crash.
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Rob Schneider
Anyway, I'll come see you over there. Yeah, let's do it on your side of the pond. Yeah, if they let me in.
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Francis
They will let you in.
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Rob Schneider
We will promise.
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Francis
We'll have a word with kids.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, I'm great to see my brother.
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Rob Schneider
Great seeing you and thank you for all your, your incredible knowledge and your, your, your, your contribution. Your, your contribution to the culture and to. Especially right now, is needed and welcomed. And I appreciate it. You guys have been grateful.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Well, that's very kind. We did a little handshaking, but we're actually going to go to Substack where you're going to answer questions from our audience. Oh, so that's going to happen. So we'll shake hands one more time. Go to triggerpod.co.uk where Rob's going to
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Francis
answer your questions and you're going to see more handshakes. Rob, as a supporter of Israel, why do you think so many famous people, including now Sean Ryan and Joe Kent, believe that Israel controls President Trump? And what can be done to reverse this point of view?
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Trigger Podcast Host
Guys, let us take a minute to recommend another podcast.
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Francis
Did you know the average podcast listener has six shows in rotation, so you're most likely not just listening to Trigger. Wait, so we know you're cheating on us? This is a disgrace.
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Trigger Podcast Host
Francis, it's okay. The Jordan Harbinger show is a perfect complement to trigonometry.
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Francis
Really?
- [75:25]
Trigger Podcast Host
Absolutely. Just like trigonometry, Jordan hosts weekly mind broadening conversations with some of the most fascinating people in the world. But a key difference that I'm a big fan of is that Jordan is focused on pulling actionable, growth orientated advice from his guest.
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Francis
I'm looking at his episode list now. There's an episode here where Jordan talks to a hostage negotiator from the FBI who lays out his techniques on how to get people to do what you want them to do by making them like and trust you. Sounds just like me, except, you know, I'm more sas.
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Trigger Podcast Host
You can't go wrong with adding the Jordan Harbinger show to your podcast rotation. Search for the Jordan Harbinger Show. That's H A R B I n G E R on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.