Podcast Summary: "What is Happening on the Right. And Why"

Podcast: TRIGGERnometry
Episode Date: November 6, 2025
Host/Speaker: Konstantin Kisin

Episode Overview

In this incisive solo episode, Konstantin Kisin dissects the recent upheaval within the American right, focusing on the controversy following Tucker Carlson’s interview with white nationalist Nick Fuentes. Kisin explores how generational changes, male alienation, historical amnesia, and social trends have converged to create a potent faction he dubs the “Woke Right.” He examines the roots, symptoms, and possible trajectories of this movement, while warning about the dangers of repeating history’s failures.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Generational Forgetting and the Repetition of History

• [00:35] Kisin opens by referencing a theory: societies learn only from the two generations they directly interact with (parents and grandparents), not from distant history.
  • Notable Quote:

    “We don't learn lessons from history, we learn them from our parents and grandparents.” — Konstantin Kisin [01:09]

• This helps explain why, despite lessons from events like WWII, society repeats similar mistakes 80-90 years later.

2. Latest Division on the American Right

• [02:00-03:30] Kisin frames recent events: Tucker Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes, a figure known for virulent views (“Hitler is very cool”; anti-Semitic and racist rhetoric).
  • Fuentes encourages his followers to chant violent slogans and spreads conspiracy theories about “Jewish power.”
• Conservative leaders' response—specifically Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation—was to defend Carlson against “cancellation” but then to clarify he would never platform Fuentes, exposing a contradiction.
  • Notable Quote:

    “This attempt to sit on two stools cannot work.” — Konstantin Kisin [04:09]

3. Disconnection Between Conservative Leadership (“Boomercons”) and Young Right-Wingers

• [04:50] Kisin argues that the establishment right misunderstands the source of the problem: Fuentes is not the problem, but a symptom.
  • Young men, forming Fuentes’ core audience, are alienated and adrift—affected by:
    • High rates of fatherlessness (25% of Gen Z grew up without a father).
    • Feminization of education (77% of teachers are women).
    • Economic challenges and lack of guidance on channeling aggression productively.
  • Notable Quote:

    “It’s just harder for women to teach boys how to be men.” — Konstantin Kisin [06:22]

  • Young men feel blamed for society’s ills, which breeds resentment.

4. The Woke Right as a Mirror of the Woke Left

• [08:05] Kisin coins the term “Woke Right” to describe a white identitarian backlash, mirroring the identitarian left of previous decades.
  • Like the left, this group views the world through oppressor/oppressed dynamics.
  • Notable Quote:

    “On the Woke left, the root of all evil was the patriarchy ... On the Woke right … it has now evolved into simply the Jews who are responsible for the suffering of the disadvantaged and oppressed white man.” — Konstantin Kisin [09:05]

5. Historical Amnesia and the Erosion of Post-War Norms

• [09:30] After WWII, Western societies built norms against fascism and for inclusion/compassion.
  • With time, the rationale faded and morphed into dogma (“No human is illegal”), fueling mass immigration, open borders, and other policies.
• The resulting backlash was predictable: excesses of one extreme created grounds for radicalization on the other side.

6. Why Young Men Are Drawn to Radical Influencers

• [06:40-07:50] Influencers like Fuentes exploit young men's alienation for clicks and profit, unlike the fathers or coaches of previous generations:
  • “As an influencer who makes money getting views online, Fuentes is incentivized to do the exact opposite [of responsible fathering].” — Konstantin Kisin [07:09]

7. The Dangers of Ideological Extremes and the Collapse of Conservatism

• The new right-wing faction is not interested in traditional conservatism (small government, classical values) but vengeance.
  • Notable Quote:

    “They don't want small government, they want revenge.” — Konstantin Kisin [10:25]

• Kisin notes the recent death of a promising conservative (“Charlie Kirk was single-handedly leading the Zuma right away from bitterness and resentment towards God, family and service”) as an uncertain omen for the movement’s future.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On learning from history:

  “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it, and those who do know history are doomed to watch others repeat it.” — Konstantin Kisin [01:25]

• On the generational gap:

  “The Boomercon establishment does not understand that Fuentes is not the problem. He is a symptom. And the reason they don't understand that is they don't understand young men who make up the overwhelming majority of his audience.” — Konstantin Kisin [04:56]

• On the backlash to leftist excess:

  “Did you really think that telling one group that they're bad because of their sex and skin color, while celebrating and promoting other groups for their sex and skin color, would not produce an identitarian backlash?” — Konstantin Kisin [10:01]

• On youth alienation:

  “Because they are white men, nobody cares about their problems. Is it really a surprise that some of them are resentful, angry and openly rebellious?” — Konstantin Kisin [07:01]

Important Timestamps

• [00:35] — Societies’ selective memory and why history repeats
• [02:30] — Tucker Carlson platforms Nick Fuentes; subsequent conservative infighting
• [04:09] — The contradiction in conservative responses to extremism
• [05:00-07:30] — Fatherless young men and the feminization of education
• [08:05] — “Woke Right” defined and compared to the Woke Left
• [09:30] — Post-WWII norms, their erosion, and consequences
• [10:25] — What do young radical right-wingers want? Not conservatism, but revenge
• [10:50] — Uncertain future for conservative leadership and the broader movement

Tone & Context

Konstantin Kisin’s delivery is analytical, candid, and at times, urgent. He laments institutional failures, voices deep concern for social cohesion, and condemns radicalism on all sides—left and right. His tone is both personal and societal, offering historical context and social critique in equal measure.

Takeaway

This episode serves as a warning and a diagnosis. The current turmoil on the right is less about individual personalities than about a generation of young men alienated and untethered, manipulated by influencers capitalizing on their discontent. Unless mainstream voices acknowledge and address these generational and cultural drivers, Kisin predicts the cycle of extreme backlash—and the repetition of history’s darkest episodes—will continue.