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Miel Sehgal
I think we ended up being more multicultural because that's where we were born, in a cosmopolitan city. But the deeper roots, your attachment to food, your attachment to ritual, all of that, I think, comes from where your grandparents and your parents came from, because that comes through independent of place, right? You could be sitting in North America and your comfort food is still what your grandmother made for you, what her mother made for her, sitting in Lahore or wherever you know. So there are some threads that come through regardless of place, and there are others that are deeply influenced, influenced by place.
Renita Hora
Welcome to the True Fiction Project, a podcast series that explores the origins of fiction. Every week we begin with an interview nonfiction, followed by a creative piece, fiction inspired by something from the interview. The idea is to demonstrate, of course, that fiction is born out of our life experiences. Now, here's your host, storyteller, author, public speaker, health and wellness expert, Renita Hora.
Welcome to the True Fiction Project. I am your host, Renita Hora. This week marks Independence Day in India. This year, India will proudly mark its 78th Independence Day. That means 77 years of freedom. Now, a few years ago, on its 75th anniversary, we had a special guest on the show. Her name is Shukla Lal and she shared with us a partition story. Because part and parcel of independence of India and Pakistan was the fact that the country was separated into two different countries to mark the independence of India. And Pakistan was also the fact that the subcontinent was split into these two countries. And that's what her story was about. Today, I would love to mock India's Independence Week with a different kind of guest. Her name is Miel Sehgal. She is an advisory board member of the Sanctuary Nature foundation, where she was previously the managing editor of the Sanctuary Asia magazine. She conducted events for children and educators. Miel is a writer native to Mumbai, and today she is based in Toronto. More important than any of this, she is one of my oldest and dearest friends. I've known her for the better part of these 53 years. We go a long, long way. And I was touched by an essay she wrote recently called Balancing act, which really honed in on the ideas of identity, place, and this journey of life. So, without further ado, let me introduce Miel Segal. Miel, wonderful to have you on the True Fiction project.
Miel Sehgal
Thank you so much. It's lovely to be here and to be speaking with you like this.
Renita Hora
Exactly. And as you said a few minutes before when we were in the pre prep session, we haven't actually spoken with each other ever in this kind of format. Right?
Miel Sehgal
Y. Absolutely, absolutely. So I need to be careful not presume we're chatting on the phone and start, you know, rambling on about other things.
Renita Hora
No, I think you need to presume exactly that.
Miel Sehgal
Okay.
Renita Hora
So I was absolutely thrilled to read your piece, and I know that you had been working on it for a while. This is the piece that you had talked to me about when I visited you in Toronto not too long ago. You had mentioned to me at the time that it was about your grandfather or inspired by your grandfather, but that's pretty much all you said. So it wasn't until you actually sent it to me after it was published in a local magazine that I learned that it's called Balancing Act. And I remember thinking to myself, hmm, balancing act. What's that gonna be about? How does that refer to. To her grandfather and oh my gosh, truer words were never spoken. So give me just a little bit of background as to how and why you wrote this particular essay.
Miel Sehgal
How it happened is that this is my first foray into creative nonfiction and into the personal essay. My writing before that has been nature and wildlife and sort of more feature article type of writing. And since I was going into the personal essay field, I wanted to delve straight into something that means a lot. And it always starts with family, because that's what's most important to me, at least while I was thinking about my family. And my grandfather and my roots. The recent move that I made from India to Toronto obviously is foremost and all of the things that come along with that. So it really was something that emerged pretty much on one night, I think was when it all came together. I just wrote it in one night and then perfected it after that. But it was thinking about all of those things. Family, place, belonging, home. And it was published in the Hamilton Arts and Letters in an issue that was themed around home and place. So I guess it fit in with that, and that's how it all came together.
Renita Hora
Miyal, of all the people that I have ever known in my life, you are one of the people that I really associate with the idea of family. Because in some ways, I can't separate you from the idea of family, your family. So as I listen to you, all of this just resonates. It makes perfect sense. Now, the article opens with a photograph of you and your grandfather. That is Emiel I have seen many times. I've known her for many years. I can recognize her instantly. Your grandfather, Pitaji, as you call him, obviously was a very profound influence on you as well as on your other family members. I mean, your sister has written about him. I've heard you all talk about him. So tell me, why, of all your family members, why you picked him as the starting point?
Miel Sehgal
I think with him. I think you're right. Instinctively, a lot of my family members pick him. My aunt is deeply influenced by his story. My father will still quote things that he said repeatedly in some way. I think some Personas just occupy a very large space, and you can't always put your finger on why there's such a deep presence in everyone's lives. But he certainly is one of those. You. You couldn't be around him and spend an hour or two with him without taking away something. And for those of us who've been in his presence longer than that, you feel so much of you is molded by everything that he was. Possibly I attribute some of it to his yoga practice, which was quite holistic. And some of it is just Persona, I guess, and his experiences, like your grandparents and so many of us who went through partition and lived through a very seminal time in Indian history. Their lives have a lot for us to learn from.
Renita Hora
Indeed. And the sense of place, the sense of belonging, ties so much into the sense of identity. We had your aunt, your father's sister, on the True Fiction project a few years ago at the time of India's 75th anniversary of independence and partition, and she shared with us, a very special story called Ranu and Partition Story with Shuklal, your aunt. And she certainly talked about this thread of movement of the family from Lahore to India, how she was a young child when all of that happened. She referenced your father, who wasn't even born at the time.
Miel Sehgal
My father made the partition move in utero in Utah. Yes. That's how we moved across.
Renita Hora
I do understand that for all of your extended family members, there is this thread that carries through that talks about place and belonging and how identity is derived from that, attached to that.
Miel Sehgal
It is. I mean, I think that there is this sense of homeland and where we came from and this wanting to know where our ancestors are from. Regardless of how multicultural all of us may be and the world may be, there is this rootedness that you get when you know where you're from. But for so many of us, I think from India who've been affected by partition, there's an entire life and an entire line of ancestors before that that we know nothing about. We haven't been to those homes. We don't have what so many Indians call a native place to go back to. Right. Because that's on the other side of the border in a country that is not very easy to get to. And it works both ways. So very often when people ask me where I'm from, I will say I grew up in Bombay. That's where I was born. But my parents were born in Calcutta, so there's that influence. But I will always reference the fact that my grandparents and everyone who came before that is from what's now Pakistan. So I think of myself as South Asian from Bombay, even though I'm very much from Bombay.
Renita Hora
So this is something that I really want to delve into because I think so many of us. And when I say us, I'm not simply talking about South Asians or even immigrants from North India to elsewhere in India such as Calcutta or Mumbai or Madras or Chennai, or even immigrants from other parts of the world to North America, where we both are. You're in Canada, I'm in the US But I think there is this journey of discovery for immigrants. Right. Because we leave behind so much. We come to a new life, we create new lives where we are often our kids are born here. And I know that I have even spoken about these topics with your mother who says, you know, you leave your homeland, you don't have the language anymore. I remember her saying, you know, I can't speak Punjabi. I understand the words and the references and the songs and the lyricism. But there's still a disconnect. And I know I've had discussions with you where I think we both feel, despite the Punjabi heritage, we consider ourselves Bombay people or, you know, Mumbai people. You identify with that. Now, what is it that changes or makes things different from where or how or who you descended from to where you grow up in or what your.
Miel Sehgal
Environment provides, your early environment, where you grow up. Like for you and I, it was Bombay, which then became Mumbai, is. It informs everything, right? It's where your peers are from. I think the fact that for us, we grew up in a very cosmopolitan city. It's not like we were Delhi where there was primarily North Indians or where Calcutta, where, you know, it wasn't necessarily as it is, blended. But Bombay was very multicultural. People from all parts of India came there. So you end up, I think we ended up being more multicultural because that's where we were born in, in a cosmopolitan city. But the deeper roots, your attachment to food, your attachment to ritual, all that I think comes from where your grandparents and your parents came from because that comes through independent of place, right? You could be sitting in North America and your comfort food is still what your grandmother made for you, what her mother made for her sitting in Lahore or wherever, you know. So there are some threads that come through regardless of place and there are others that are deeply influenced by place.
Renita Hora
Now this is interesting because in your essay you talked about growing up in Bombay in a post colonial India. And you talk about language, you talk about ritual, you talk about food. You say that English slipped off your tongue much more easily than Hindi, which would not have been the case with your ancestors. You talked about sort of growing up in and amongst the holidays and the festivals that took place. You mentioned Diwali and Navratri, but there was no Hindu ritual attached to that. So, Miyal, do you think we lose some of this or we gain other kinds of perspectives or, you know, how would you put it?
Miel Sehgal
Yes. So the truth is that of course we lose things when we thought we were moving towards progress by our parents putting us in these sort of convent schools or church schools or these English speaking schools. We gained access to the west in the way that maybe other people didn't have, right? But we lost so much when some of us who spoke English at home lost language or English became our first instead of second or third language. There was a lot of loss. But there are things we gain. I mean, as young women, you and I, going out into the world and going and getting ourselves educated of our own will. Perhaps had we lived in a very traditional society that had not been westernized, maybe we would have lost out on that opportunity. So we live this strange blended existence of plus and minus and give and take, and that's who we are. And I think there's a little bit of both.
Renita Hora
And it's interesting that you bring this up, Miel, because so much, certainly the ritualistic aspect of it, the rituals that perhaps we have gone away from or missed out on or have evolved to be something different. I know all of us women from India and especially from the north, there's this plus minus situation. Right. Because so much of the ritual aspect of where we come from is not necessarily pleasant or equanimous. So. So tell me a little bit more about your perspective on that.
Miel Sehgal
I haven't had that much firsthand experience with ritual because it's not something that was practiced in my family daily. So I can't really comment to that in any meaningful manner. But I can say that I'm grateful to have been given equal opportunities regardless of my gender. And I think that has to do with certain more progressive, perhaps slightly Western attitudes within our blended culture that we grew up in. Ritual wise. I don't feel that I have been constrained by anything or. Or freed of anything because I haven't personally had that experience.
Renita Hora
Now when you talk.
Miel Sehgal
But I'd be interested to know. Sorry to ask you. I'd be interested to know your thoughts on that.
Renita Hora
On what I feel about ritualistic living or.
Miel Sehgal
Yes, well, and pluses and minuses there.
Renita Hora
Pluses and minuses. Oh, my gosh, that could take us down a whole other rabbit hole. Right? Well, suffice it to say really quickly. I mean, ritual living is so much a part of the Hindu life. Past, present, like, I'm not a soothsayer, so cannot talk about the future. There is a lot of, well, you know, habits and behaviors and traditions come out of that to an extent, and those can be lovely. There is also, I think, from my perspective, a lot of negativity attached to that. I was speaking with a friend just this morning before this podcast recording. She's also ethnically from North India and just recently lost her father and was his caretaker for many, many years. And she says all of a sudden, you know, he is gone and you go into this place of rituals, whereas a girl child, you're just suddenly on the outside because.
Miel Sehgal
Yes, absolutely right.
Renita Hora
Because the rituals do not allow for you to be on the inside. It doesn't matter that you were the daughter of the family or took care of your father for the last 10 years, suddenly you're on the outside, because that's what the rituals call for. And she was really struggling as much with the grief of his loss. She was struggling with the patriarchy of the system. So, yeah, absolutely.
Miel Sehgal
It's interesting you say that with the word patriarchy, because in my particular family, what I feel blessed about is that the patriarch, who is Pitaji, who I've written this about, didn't embody any of these kinds of values that we're discussing right now. Do you know what I mean? I think his daughters were quite free to be who they wanted to be, and certainly his granddaughters. So that's. Yeah, he's. That's yet another way in which I think he's been quite inspiring.
Renita Hora
I can certainly see that from the granddaughters, the two of them, that I know. And certainly in talking to your aunt Shukla Lal. Now, one of the questions I'd love to ask you is your. About your connection to yoga, because in reading your essay, Balancing act, it is clear that yoga was one method of drawing you back into our culture. When I say drawing you back, it's not like you were ever out of it, but, you know, let's say drawing you further into our culture, yet in a very different way. So what is that different way?
Miel Sehgal
I came to it, yes. Like many Westerners do, I came to it because. For stress relief and for exercise and for all those things. But as I went deeper into it, I realized, of course, that there's so much more to it, and it's an entire way of living and being. And that's how, of course, the thread came with my grandfather, who I recognize now as an adult, I recognize that he had been living that holistically his whole time. So I think we dig into our culture through different ways. Somebody might go through food or somebody might go through language or through music. I think yoga is one of those ways that would be accessible for a lot of people from the diaspora because it's so predominant in, I wouldn't say Western world in all cultures. Right. So I see it as an opportunity for diaspora South Asians to just go just that little bit deeper.
Renita Hora
Now, in your essay, you talk about Pitaji when he was 97, having a connection with your son. What is that? Explain that.
Miel Sehgal
I mean, if I've heard from grandparents, I'm not one yet, but I have heard that it truly is one of the most meaningful experiences. And I've had people say that they realized finally, this is why I was born, you know, to have a grandchild. So I cannot even imagine what that dynamic must have been like for him, to have not just my son as his great grandchild, but so many and have individual relationships with each of them. Think that for me, watching the two of them was probably one of the most special experiences of my life. When you can see the thread of your human history, you know, your past, your future together like that, it's a blessing and a joy to be able to see that.
Renita Hora
And one of the things you talk about also is aside from the fact that he was a lifelong learner or not aside from it, maybe part of that was his desire to make new younger friends in his early 90s, and he persuaded some of them to teach him Tai Chi in the neighborhood park after his morning walks. Now, I have heard that for people who live a long lifespan, like Pitaji, this is very important. Making younger friends. What are your thoughts on that?
Miel Sehgal
Yes, absolutely. Again, I think the intergenerational aspect is really. It's integral. I think it's important. I think as humans in human society, we were never sort of neither at school, if you look back in human history, we were never sort of segregated by age into these little bands and separated. It was. The children have always been part of the entire setup, right? You're in the kitchen, you're out on a hunt, you're doing whatever. The kids are integrated and the elders are integrated. They're around. Somebody's looked at for their wisdom, somebody's looked up for their strength. So intergenerational living has always been a part of human society until fairly recently, I think. And having younger friends keeps you alive. He wanted to. Yeah, he wanted to keep learning. He would go for his morning walk and nobody in the family knew. He'd go with his helper for a morning walk and made some younger, meaning perhaps maybe they were 70 or 65, I don't know. But he said, oh, what are you doing? Teach me how to do this. And he had a new hobby developed in his 90s that we only discovered, I think, quite a bit after that. So, yes, I think, tremendous value.
Renita Hora
Niel, why did you call this essay Balancing Act?
Miel Sehgal
Well, I think, of course, it's a take on the fact that it was the yoga was the common thread. So that made sense. It was balancing. It's what I saw him do, literally. I saw my grandfather do that when he was doing his headstands in the morning. But also metaphorically. It's what we all need to do, particularly Those of us who are traversing different cultures, different countries, back and forth, raising children in one culture, having parents in another. It is all a balancing act of how are we Indian, how are we Western, how are we our own culture? What threads of positive bits do we take from each to form our own unique blend which is eventually universal? We're all human and we all have to balance all of these cultural bits between us. I think that's where it came from.
Renita Hora
And do we come to a point in life ever where we say, okay, yes, this is it, this is my uniquely blended self, or is it something that is constantly evolving?
Miel Sehgal
I think everything is constantly evolving. You grow and you change every day and stagnation. Like saying, this is it and this is the pinnacle of my perfection of who I am. Oh my gosh, that would be just the worst. So to constantly grow is part of the fun of being alive, isn't it?
Renita Hora
Oh, I love that. I love the idea, Miel, that anybody could point to themselves at different stages of life and say, that's me. But that's a different character, my 20 year old character, whatever the case may be. So I love how you ended the essay and I'm so tempted to read off your final line, but I think I'm gonna save it because you are actually gonna read it. So I'll save that for our listeners. But before we wrap up, I would love to ask you where we can read more of your work.
Miel Sehgal
So it's still just this one piece on the Hamilton Arts and Letters website and I will keep you posted with more when I have that going.
Renita Hora
Miel, it has been so much fun to speak with you on the True Fiction Project.
Miel Sehgal
It's been really wonderful speaking with you about this because we have so many meandering conversations, but this is the first time we've very specifically talked about the idea of east and west and back and forth and what makes us. I think we've covered good ground and I'm so grateful for the chance to have this conversation with you.
Renita Hora
Likewise. What a pleasure to have you on the True Fiction Project. Thank you so much for being our guest today.
Miel Sehgal
Thank you.
Renita Hora
That is Miel Sehgal, a writer based in Toronto, native to Mumbai, and most importantly, one of my oldest friends from childhood. This is the True Fiction Project and I am your host, Renita Hora.
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Miel Sehgal
Balancing act by Me Miel Sehgal Half awake, I stumbled out of my bedroom early one summer morning to find my grandfather standing on his head in the middle of the carpeted living room. Pitaji, as he was universally called, was comfortably contorted into a yoga pose while everyone else slept or scurried about their morning routines. This has been his ritual for decades, but my seven year old eyes widened as I watched for the first time on his many subsequent visits to our Bombay home, I knew to tiptoe around when I heard the slow exhalation of Pranayam practice or caught him frozen. Frozen in meditative silence. His shimmering silver hair oiled and neatly side parted, thick spectacles by his side, snail like Pitaji retreated into his own private yoga studio whenever he needed to, wherever he was, no dim lights, soft music or fragrant candles necessary. While the youngest among us looked forward to his visits the most, the stories he spun entangled anyone in the the vicinity. With a booming voice that belied his medium build, he brought to life tales of Tarzan in the jungle and the adventures of mythological characters, a web of stories he knew and those he'd invent in the moment. But there were some we only heard when we were much older, those of his perilous escape from Lahore to Simla in 1947 when British occupied India, including his homeland of Punjab, was split along religious lines into two countries, resulting in one of the largest and most horrifically violent mass migrations in human history. We learned of how he drove his pregnant wife and four children to safety on the other side of the impending border, of his dutiful return to wrap up the office, and of the kindness of Muslim neighbors who helped him, a Hindu, escape along with a Sikh friend. The family home, just as it was, was gifted to a Muslim family. Forced to flee in the opposite direction, Ritaji spent the rest of his working life in a transferable job with the same insurance company. Now under Indian, not British, management, the family crisscrossed the country, moving from city to city and adapting to different dialects, cultures and customs. Along the way. They inhabited post colonial India with ease. Fluent in English and several, several Indian languages and comfortable in both Indian and Western contexts, Pitaji's books went along with them, evidence of his earlier years as a teacher of mathematics and his ongoing love of English literature. During my growing years, at a time when grandparents homes had no toys and the black and white television had only evening programming, I was captivated by that burgeoning bookshelf in their post retirement Calcutta home. Unlike Pitaji, I grew up in independent India. The colonizers no longer occupied our land, but had taken up residence inside our heads. By my first day at school, English slipped off my tongue easier than Hindi did and no Punjabi emerged at all. My sister and I enjoyed daily Indian meals, deftly tearing a bit of roti with one hand, wrapping it around spiced vegetables and dipping the entire parcel and steaming dal before devouring it. But we used cutlery for rice and our tables were set the proper British way. Diwali and Navratri were vibrant, festive celebrations once a year, but daily life involved no Hindu rituals. The chants that wafted out of the yoga ashram on the first floor of our apartment building were a greater novelty than the hymns we rattled off each morning morning in our colonial era church school. Urban Indians with such schooling are in a little club of our own, distanced from our cultural roots while being catapulted into privilege and opportunity by the same education that distances us. Many of us in post colonial countries absorb our own culture, filtered by the lens of the west. Like a fledgling waiting for the mother bird to chew and regurgitate a morsel. We find it easier to consume our culture softened by Western scholars, historians and scientists and fed to us in their language. Now our language with their added flavors and colors. Over the next few years I read texts on yoga in English, some based on translations from the Sanskrit that I never learned. I bored through popular summaries of scientific studies, fascinated by the metabolic changes in meditating Monks and the effect of Bhastrika Pranayam on anxiety. I believed just a little more in the chakras once I knew they corresponded to the endocrine glands and was pleased to find scientific proof of the impact of yogic practices on the parasympathetic nervous system. Western medicine, which conventionally treated the human body and mind system in disparate parts, was exploring psychosomatic interactions. Whereas my grandfather faithfully followed the centuries old practices of the sages of the Himalayas, I needed revalidation from the sages of Harvard. I discovered that the physical postures and breathing techniques I was learning were just a tiny fragment of this practice that serves to guide us through the human condition. From truth telling to non violence moderation to self inquiry and selfless service to discipline. Wisdom was passed from teacher to student for thousands of years, with each individual encouraged to follow the paths best suited to them. Physical postures, most easily adopted by Westerners familiar with exercise along with breathing techniques and meditation, were packaged and commercialized into the hundred billion dollar yoga industry of today. Many consumers, however, miss a central meaning. Yoga, pronounced yoga, means to yoke or unite. And wellness comes not just from contortions, but from the integration of mind, body and spirit. The enduring ancient teachings apply to everyone and while it may align with the context of a Hindu or Buddhist quest for spiritual liberation, this is an inclusive and expansive tradition. Being South Asian or having an interest in Eastern philosophy is entirely un unnecessary. A few months before he died at the age of 97, Pitaji showed my nine month old son the delight of being able to bring his own hands together to clap. As I watched them together under the banyan tree taking in the late morning sun, it was hard to tell who was having more fun. Pitaji found joy in new experiences right down to his last vacation with us exploring the mangrove forests of the Ganges river delta by boat at age 96 to celebrate my father, his youngest child. Turning 60p's age had only slightly slackened the physical and mental health he maintained throughout his life. He lived on his own with a helper close to family members he met every day but never moved in. With a lifelong learner, he made new younger friends in his early 90s and persuaded them to teach him Tai Chi in the neighborhood park after his morning walks. He'd had the same lifestyle for decades. Simple vegetarian meals, respect for his body, a vibrant intellectual life of science, literature and politics, and gatherings with like minded people. If he carried any unresolved trauma from the partition, repeated upheavals of home and the 10 heartbreaking years he spent tending to his beloved wife as she withered away from Parkinson's. Parkinson's disease. We saw little trace of it. Pitaji, who integrated east and west, mind and body, lived the true essence of yoga. Thousands of miles away from my country of origin, I'm on an endeavor to lead a more integrated life in this new place. I hope to find balance in my culturally blended identity and to keep learning and growing from my still intermittent yoga practice. I look for teachers connected to an unbroken line of instruction from the Indian subcontinent who refer to postures by their Sanskrit names and can help me carry on this ancient tradition. I may not find my place in the local studios of tight Lululemon and hushed concluding namastes, but I'm grateful they exist and hopeful that as the teachings expand, they will resonate with more people of diverse ages, abilities and ethnicities. Most of all, I'm grateful to my grandfather for showing me that where you live or what you leave behind is not nearly as important as what you carry inside.
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Podcast Summary: True Fiction Project - S5 Ep4: "Balancing Act"
Introduction
In Episode 5, Season 4 of the True Fiction Project, host Renita Hora welcomes Miel Sehgal, a Toronto-based writer native to Mumbai, to discuss her insightful essay titled "Balancing Act." This episode, released on August 13, 2024, delves deep into themes of identity, cultural assimilation, family heritage, and the delicate balance between maintaining one's roots while embracing a multicultural environment.
Guest Introduction: Miel Sehgal
Miel Sehgal serves on the advisory board of the Sanctuary Nature Foundation and was the managing editor of Sanctuary Asia magazine. With a rich background in writing, particularly in nature and wildlife, Miel ventured into creative nonfiction with her essay "Balancing Act." Renita highlights their long-standing friendship of over 53 years, setting a personal tone for the conversation.
Exploring Identity and Place
The discussion begins with Miel reflecting on her multicultural upbringing in Mumbai. She states:
“There are some threads that come through regardless of place, and there are others that are deeply influenced by place.” ([01:00])
Miel emphasizes that while the cosmopolitan nature of Mumbai fostered a multicultural identity, deeper familial roots—such as food and rituals—stem from ancestral origins, transcending geographical boundaries. This duality shapes a complex personal identity, balancing between inherited traditions and the influences of the surrounding environment.
Cultural Assimilation: Losses and Gains
Renita and Miel explore the implications of moving from India to Toronto, discussing the inevitable losses and gains associated with cultural assimilation. Miel shares:
“There was a lot of loss. But there are things we gain.” ([13:57])
She elaborates on how adopting English and Western educational practices provided opportunities but also distanced her from her native languages and cultural rituals. This blend creates a unique, albeit challenging, identity that navigates between preserving heritage and embracing new societal norms.
Rituals and Their Impact
The conversation shifts to the role of rituals in personal and cultural identity. Renita brings up the mixed feelings associated with traditional Hindu rituals, particularly in the context of patriarchy and personal loss. Miel responds by sharing her family's more progressive approach:
“In my particular family, what I feel blessed about is that the patriarch, who is Pitaji, didn't embody any of these kinds of values that we're discussing right now.” ([17:57])
This highlights how familial dynamics can influence one's relationship with cultural rituals, sometimes mitigating negative aspects like patriarchal constraints and fostering a more inclusive environment.
Yoga and Intergenerational Relationships
Miel discusses the integral role of yoga in bridging cultural gaps and connecting generations. She remarks:
“Yoga is one of those ways that would be accessible for a lot of people from the diaspora because it's so predominant in, I wouldn't say Western world in all cultures.” ([19:06])
Her grandfather, Pitaji, embodies this integration, using yoga not just as physical exercise but as a holistic way of life that fosters intergenerational connections. This practice serves as a conduit for maintaining cultural identity while adapting to new environments.
Themes of "Balancing Act"
Renita delves into the essence of Miel's essay, "Balancing Act," which narrates her grandfather's life and her own journey of cultural integration. Miel explains the title:
“Balancing Act is… what we all need to do, particularly those of us who are traversing different cultures, different countries… It is all a balancing act of how are we Indian, how are we Western, how are we our own culture?” ([22:37])
The essay explores the synthesis of Eastern and Western philosophies, the preservation of family heritage, and the continuous evolution of personal identity.
Fiction Segment: "Balancing Act"
Following the interview, the podcast transitions to the fictional piece inspired by Miel's essay. "Balancing Act" weaves a narrative that intertwines personal anecdotes with broader cultural reflections. Key highlights include:
Grandfather's Legacy: Pitaji's dedication to yoga and his role as a storyteller who bridges generations.
“He carried the true essence of yoga, thousands of miles away from my country of origin…” ([35:46])
Cultural Dichotomy: Miel's internal struggle between embracing her Indian heritage and assimilating into Western society.
“On our own cultural bits between us.” ([23:29])
Intergenerational Bonds: The profound relationship between Pitaji and his great-grandchildren, showcasing the importance of maintaining familial ties across generations.
The fiction piece encapsulates the core themes discussed, offering listeners a vivid portrayal of balancing cultural identities amidst changing environments.
Conclusion
The episode concludes with Renita inviting listeners to engage with the True Fiction Project by sharing their stories or contributing their writing. Miel expresses her gratitude for the deep and meaningful conversation, highlighting the importance of discussing cultural balance and personal growth.
Where to Read More
Listeners interested in Miel Sehgal's work can find "Balancing Act" published in the Hamilton Arts and Letters magazine. She also plans to release more pieces in the future, so staying connected through her channels is encouraged.
Final Thoughts
"Balancing Act" serves as a poignant exploration of navigating multicultural identities, the preservation of familial heritage, and the continuous journey of self-discovery. Through Miel Sehgal's personal narratives and fictional storytelling, the episode offers a rich, engaging experience that resonates with anyone grappling with similar cultural dynamics.
Notable Quotes
On Multicultural Identity:
Miel Sehgal ([01:00]): “There are some threads that come through regardless of place, and there are others that are deeply influenced by place.”
On Cultural Loss and Gain:
Miel Sehgal ([13:57]): “There was a lot of loss. But there are things we gain.”
On Progressive Family Dynamics:
Miel Sehgal ([17:57]): “In my particular family, what I feel blessed about is that the patriarch, who is Pitaji, didn't embody any of these kinds of values that we're discussing right now.”
On Yoga's Role in Cultural Integration:
Miel Sehgal ([19:06]): “Yoga is one of those ways that would be accessible for a lot of people from the diaspora because it's so predominant in, I wouldn't say Western world in all cultures.”
On the Essence of Balancing Act:
Miel Sehgal ([22:37]): “It is all a balancing act of how are we Indian, how are we Western, how are we our own culture?”
Listen to the Episode
For a deeper dive into Miel Sehgal's journey and the transformative power of storytelling, tune into True Fiction Project S5 Ep4: "Balancing Act."