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Narrator (1:00)
He was a boy scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father.
Celisia Stanton (1:06)
He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door.
Narrator (1:13)
But he was leading a double life.
Celisia Stanton (1:16)
He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful.
Narrator (1:31)
He was a monster hiding in plain sight.
Celisia Stanton (1:35)
Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here.
Narrator (1:41)
Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers. Btk through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Celisia Stanton (2:01)
Hi friends. I'm excited to share that we are hard at work on a new season of True or crime to hold you over. Enjoy this early season 2 episode a taste of what's to Come. If you want an ad free listening experience, subscribe to Tenderfoot Plus@TenderfootPlus.com or on Apple Podcast. Please be aware that today's episode discusses incarceration, solitary confinement, severe mental illness, suicide and self harm. Please take care while listening. Picture an entirely gray room. Not calming or soothing. Think cement. And everywhere. Well, almost everywhere. Because where there isn't gray, there's metal in the corner. Cold to the touch. There's a silver colored toilet that distorts your face before reflecting it back to you. Did I mention how small the room is so small. The size of a four door sedan if you're lucky. Everything is awash in the light beaming down from the fluorescent fixture overhead. Picture high school. Except this light. It never goes out. You're fed, of course, and your meals are delivered through a tray sized slit in the wal. Not that there isn't a door. There is, but it's only opened on the five days a week you're let out. Let out. Not to be confused with let free. No. Led out really to another tiny all gray room. But this one is different. This one has a bar bolted to the wall. You can grab onto the bar and pull yourself off the ground if you want. You can do this over and over and over again. You have an hour. You can do this as many times as you like. It's your recreation after all. The other 23 hours in your day are spent back in gray room number one, alone. But then again, you're always alone. Sometimes, though, it doesn't feel like it. Or rather, doesn't sound like it. The cacophony of noise is constant. There's the screams and the crying, the chattering from people who seem to be responding to voices you yourself don't actually hear. But really, it's not all American Horror Story. There's your friend you talk through through the wall. The man next door who sits in his own tiny gray room identical to yours. You feel like you know him, but how well could you really know someone whose face you've never actually seen? Do you want to leave? Are you sick of picturing this? God, can you imagine staying here for a week? For years? For decades? Personally, I can't even imagine staying here for a day. But according to Valerie Kilballa and Sal Rodriguez writing for Solitary Watch, this is the reality for the 80,000 people held in solitary confinement each day in this country. On second thought, maybe this is an American horror story. Or at least it's one. Because this is the story of Sam Mandez. I'm Celicia Stanton and you're listening to Truer Crime. When I started researching this story, one name in particular kept jumping to the front of my mind. Jacob Mondragon. I'm not entirely sure why, though I'd guess it's because Jacob and I are nearly the same age, less than a year apart. We are both born on that thin line that seems to exist between the millennial and Gen Z generations. Personally, I like claiming that I belong to whichever cohort feels most advantageous at the moment. Is that a toxic trait? I'm getting sidetracked anyway. So Jacob Mondrago and I are nearly the same age. It means we entered the world in this common era. The mid-1990s, the rise of the Internet and the 24 hour news cycle seemed to be born alongside us. The mid-1990s seemed rife with newsworthy moments ready to enrapture the nation. The Oklahoma City bombing, the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the death of Princess Di. We couldn't possibly forget the O.J. simpson trial. And yet, like always, amidst the madness was typical monotony of life. Everyday people doing everyday things. And like me, Jacob had a relatively normal childhood. He'd played baseball. He went to his high school prom. Jacob felt, and still feels, like someone I could know. And in many ways, he is. We all deal with hard things, and for Jacob, one of those hard things meant living his life and all the important milestones that come with growing up without his dad, like is the case for over 5 million children in the United States. Jacob had to grow up without his dad because for the last 25 years, Jacob's dad's been in prison. But to really understand how everything ended up this way, how Jacob became one of 5 million, we'll need to turn back the clock to go back to 1991, just a few years prior to Jacob's birth, when his dad, Sam Mandez, was growing up in a town called Greeley, Colorado. Before researching this story, I'd never heard of Greeley, Colorado. I'd assumed it was a smaller rural community. But with just over 100,000 residents, Greeley isn't exactly what you'd call tiny. But a solid hour's drive from Denver, it's not the sort of place out of towners flock to. But tourism isn't really Greeley's claim to fame anyway. Farming is. It's what brought folks to Greeley initially, and it's still a booming industry today. And it's the immigrant population, mainly Latinx, that keeps the community's vital meatpacking industry running. And so I wasn't all that surprised to learn that if you live in Greeley, there's a 90% chance that you're either white or Latinx. And really, The Greeley of 1991 looked remarkably similar to the Greeley of today, if only considerably smaller. In 91, its population sat at just over 60,000. At some point during my research, I decided to type the words Greeley, Colorado into my Google Maps search bar. The city I'd found is organized in a neat grid system Most of the streets have numbered names. I zoomed in to a road called 5th street and searched for the Salvation Army. When I found it, I wondered which of the homes around it was the tiny yellow house a woman named Freda Winter had once owned. I wonder if the home is still standing at all. I adjusted the map. Now I was looking at another house lined road 6th street. This time I wasn't looking for anything in particular. I just Knew that in 1991, just two blocks from Freda Winter's tiny yellow house was another home on 6th street which had belonged to a man named Victor Mandez. This was Sam Mandez's grandfather's home back in 1991. Frieda Winter was in her early 70s. Based on what I'd read from Moffatt, Frieda had been the quintessential grandmother figure. She'd quilted and gardened. She diligently attended church. She'd regularly donated food from her garden to the Salvation army shelter, the one that had been right next door. Frieda Winter was a community fixture of sorts, the kind of person whose reputation precedes her. Neighborhood kids had even nicknamed her the Church Lady. In some ways, Victor Mendez wasn't so different from Frida. A grandfather who deeply loved his grandchildren, Victor worked hard for his family and picked up odd jobs when he could for extra income. And then one day, Frida and Victor's paths crossed. According to the Denver Post, Frieda had a reputation for hiring neighborhood folks for household jobs. And that summer money had been tight for the Mandez family. So when Frida asked Victor if he'd be willing to paint her house, he agreed. He'd even end up recruiting his 13 year old grandson, Sam to help out. By all accounts, Sam Mandez deeply respected and truly adored his grandfather. He was happy to spend time helping him out. And so there they spent the summer of 91, grandfather and grandson together on Fifth street, painting Frieda Winter's tiny yellow house. When they'd finished their work, Frieda paid them. According to the Denver Post. She'd even handed Sam his own check for $35. It came with a note for painting with Grandpa, it read. It was a simple interaction, a sweet moment, even a reminder of a summer spent tagging along with Grandpa and making some extra cash. When I picture this summer, it's nearly impossible to accept how horrifying it would all become. And that's the cruel thing I think about those moments where our lives irrevocably changed course. They always seemed to come expertly disguised, unthreatening, benign sweet even. And in some ways the summer spent painting with Grandpa. It would become one of those moments for all of them, because none of them could have possibly predicted what was to come. Perhaps Sam Mandez least of all. The picture in my mind of Victor's grandson, Sam Mandez is a mosaic, a makeshift tapestry built from little pieces shared by those who loved him most, the friends and family who knew him as a child, who'd watched him grow into young adulthood. I studied a photo of Sam from 1992. In it, a teenage Sam sports a white T shirt. His hair, dark, nearly black, brings my attention straight to his smile, wide, objectively friendly. I closed my eyes and try to imagine him walking straight out of the photo and into his life. I picture the personality his friends and family described in the ACLU Colorado documentary Out of sight, out of Mind. Always happy, full of energy, they'd said. Respectful, extremely polite. I imagined him living the life they remembered, babysitting the neighbor kids, putting away money for college, playing football and baseball, hitting the game winning home run. I picture the smaller, more tender moments helping his grandparents, dancing with his little sister. Of course, I have to picture the less shiny things too. And Sam had been a teenager after all, one who sometimes got into a bit of trouble. Forensic psychologist Mark diamond wrote that Sam used some drugs and alcohol as a kid, that he'd had school attendance problems and got into a few fights. At 15, he got caught taking a stolen car for a joyride. The truth was that like all of us, Sam was a nuanced person with a nuanced life. But by all accounts, he was a genuinely respectful and happy kid. And by 1996, the now 18 year old Sam was looking forward to his future. Until, that is, he gets a call that changes everything.
