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Cask Us Anything | The Epstein/MAGA Fault Line
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Amy and Denver took questions from their live stream and discussed state of MAGA after being lied to for over a decade about the Jeffery Epstein files. *This episode aired live on 07.15.25 About Truth in the Barrel: Amy and...
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Denver
I'm very scared, Amy. I think we're live. We are live. Welcome to Truth in the Barrel Live. We're so excited to have you all here because it's going to be crazy. If you know anybody out there, you better go get them now. You better call them, you better text them and say that the best show ever is on at this second. You don't want to miss it. Because after we talk about the craziness of this last week, you can cast us anything. So we want to make sure that you do that right now. We're going to. Now, really, our theme is going to be pretty incredible, Amy. It's promises made, promises kept from the public. What do we mean by that? Well, we have a montage to help us explain.
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Amy
Roll it just. Lane Maxwell is in prison and so.
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Denver
A lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people.
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Amy
And I know you talked in the past about Prince Andrew and you criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?
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Donald Trump
I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well, frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm beach and I guess they lived in Palm beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew. Just don't know.
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Denver
Not aware of it. Brie Epstein story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Who has Jeffrey Epstein's FBI, but who that is.
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Amy
I mean, there's.
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Denver
That's under direct control of the director of the FBI. What the hell are the House Republicans doing? They have the majority. You can't get the list. Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah.
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Amy
Yeah, I would.
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Donald Trump
Yes, I would. I think that's less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.
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Denver
If you're lying about that, you're lying about everything. Donald Trump has talked about. The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's claims. Will that really happen?
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Amy
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. Everything's going to come out to the public. The public has a right to Know Americans have a right to know.
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Denver
Mr. President, you're done. Mr. Mr. President, your daughter in law said that there should be transparency in the Epstein case. Do you agree with her, sir?
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Donald Trump
The Attorney General's handle that very well. She is, she's really done a very good job and I think that when you look at it, you'll understand that. I would like to see that also. But I think the Attorney general, the credibility is very important.
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Amy
Did she tell you, what did she say about you and specifically did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the.
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Donald Trump
No, no, she's, she's given just a very quick briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama.
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Amy
Where do you start? Everything's made by Obama.
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Denver
Well, it goes much deeper than that as you know and you know I, I can't wait to get into the layers of awesomeness and awfulness that is all combined in this one big thing with the Epstein files but, and the Epstein list and the fact that Cash Patel is in there multiple time. I can't wait times. I can't wait to get into this. But Amy, before we get into Epstein, something happened over the last couple weeks people need to know about. You were in vacation on Hawaii.
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Amy
Oh, it was wonderful. You know look, I, I've been in the military for 24 years and I had never been to Hawaii which is pretty amazing. I've been to like all the stands right. And I've been to the Middle east and all around the world and many amazing places. But my husband before we met, he was stationed in Hawaii so he's always wanted to take me and take the kids back there. He knows, knows everything about the islands and we, we did it, we did like sort of the, the bucket list vacation over to Hawaii and, and my husband tried to pack in to two weeks pretty much, you know his entire three year tour there along with a wife and, and three kids. So it was, it was busy. But I brought back some whiskey for you.
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Denver
I can't wait to hear about that. I heard though when he was stationed there that he was a quite strapping lady.
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Amy
Well, I didn't know him back then but, but yeah, I mean you know he was in his 20s and first tour helicopter pilot and he does know a lot about the islands and we went to Kauai, we went to Oahu and we went to Maui and it was, it was awesome. We, we brought back this Kapahi bourbon whiskey, which is actually. And you. You appreciate this, Denver. You can't distill whiskey in Kauai or in Hawaii. There's too many regulations. So they're still dealing with the regulations, but you can grow the corn. So this is, you know, Hawaiian corn grown on Kauai, and then it's distilled in. In Spokane, Washington. But it's very good. It's like a vanilla caramelly chocolate.
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Denver
Does it say how old it is?
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Amy
It's not very old.
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Denver
The.
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Amy
The distillery that they started making it in, I think 2014. But. Yeah. Yeah.
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Denver
Well, I. I forgot my tumbler. That looks fantastic. So to drink with you, I just have to let you know that we're talking about Epstein. So I have a little bit of a bigger glass of bourbon today.
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Amy
Oh, I see that we need it.
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Denver
But, hey, very good.
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Amy
Do you know what else is really cool about Hawaii? And. And it is paradise. It. There's no snakes there. Isn't that cool? Like, I didn't know. I just. I always wanted to live in a place with no snakes.
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Denver
Now watch me ask questions. Like, to be such a. Like an idiot. As, you know, remember we did the military briefings, and somebody would ask, like, the question, you're like, give me a break. Has there ever been snakes in Hawaii? Like, was there, like, never been snakes in Hawaii?
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Amy
Right? Yeah. I mean, a lot of it's a. It's a volcanic place. Right. I mean, the. The. It was volcanoes that, you know, make Hawaii many, many thousands and millions of years ago. And it, you know, things were brought in. So a lot of the agriculture has sort of been brought in, but snakes have never been brought in. And they have very strict code, for obvious reasons. And there's a lot of islands like that. Like, I think when I was stationed in Guam or when I went out to Guam, they had. They had no snakes there until they were, like, brought in somehow.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Yeah.
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Denver
I go back and look at that. Snuck in a snake during the, you know, the great snake rebellion of 1937 or something. Or something where they have snakes, like rabbits being introduced to places where they're never rabbits and they take over, you know, it sounds like you had a great time. I wish I was in Hawaii with you. You missed a very boring two weeks.
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Amy
Yeah, so you got to catch me up, because this Epstein thing, first of all, I thought it was kind of, like, over. I mean, I know very little. I probably know about as much as the average American, like, not looking at this and following what Cash Patel says. Every day. But you know, I know that Jeffrey Epstein was a longtime friend of Donald Trump's in the 1980s and 90s. I know they like partied together and they love to hang out with lots of different women. And I know that Jeffrey Epstein liked a lot of very young women, girls actually, and was convicted of sexually abusing, molesting girls. Trafficking, Right, Trafficking. Okay. Yeah. In some really sick stuff. And the FBI has, you know, hundreds of victims that they have identified that this man, you know, really did some really sick stuff back in the day too. And so he went to jail and did some plea deals over the years, but eventually was convicted. Trump distanced himself from Epstein, but Epstein was convicted and he died in prison during the first Trump administration.
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Denver
Yes, under Trump's watch, by the way. I was going to get into that, Amy.
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Amy
By the way, I, we, it's apparent suicide, but that's about all I know. So what in the, what is the conspiracy around this? Like?
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Denver
So we have to go back to one of my all time faves. You know, there's this sticky bomb of a conspiracy theory called Qanon. And as you know, Amy, Qanon attacked me after I officiated a same sex wedding that I was part of. And this is why this is so fascinating to me when you talk about, yeah, I think, you know, I'm going to need a glass this big by the time this is over. This is so fascinating because people, you know, personally, I was attacked as being part pretty much part and parcel of the Epstein list. Evolution.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
I was part of the Soros backed globalist and deep staters. I was a tool of the Antichrist. This is what I was called after the wedding. But also I was part of the whole cabal of child sex traffickers worldwide that goes back to the deep state and the globalist, which is really anti Semitic. It's, you know, the globalist of the New World order or the zog, the Zionist occupied government. All that is part of this big new World order globalist. And what they like to do is they like to harvest children. So since Epstein.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
They like to harvest children for blood. And I don't know if you know this, Amy, so I know this, this is hard to believe. But, but they like to harvest children for blood because they would make adrenochrome. Adrenochrome is something that they would actually inject from the adrenaline of children that they would harvest from the blood right before they were killed or molested. They would have a spike in adrenaline. And that's when they would suck the blood from them and make this concoction to pump into their veins in order to have this, like, fountain, you know, of youth, right. Keeps them young.
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Amy
Okay.
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Denver
By the way, if people want to know where the term adrenochrome really got famous, Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, said that he would pump adrenochrome into his veins. Also, Fear and loathing in the 1972 election, where he also talks about using adrenochrome. That's where adrenochrome really got its sort of. Its baseline was Hunter S. Thompson, which is gonzo journalism, which is a joke. So any. Well, maybe he, he was definitely pumping something to his veins, right, Amy? So, but anyhow, so these people think.
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Amy
That, that, that this can. These, these folks who are trying to pump the blood of young kids into them are like trying to rule the world, correct?
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Denver
That is correct. That is the QAnon conspiracy theory in a nutshell. If you remember the hashtag Save our children the storm, where we go one, we go all because one of the reasons that the, and this is, this is a well known fact, one of the reasons that the Capitol was stormed on January 6 is they thought children were being held in the catacombs beneath Congress for harvesting, because that's what congressional representatives do. Obviously, we harvest children, right? So, you know, so that's part of the conspiracy theory and why the storm was so, you know, such a big sort of overarching thing about what's happening on January 6th. Also because the stolen collection, the stolen election was a, was sort of a cascading effect of the whole QAnon nuttiness with Congress being part of this based on the children being held in the basement.
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Amy
So they think that Epstein was a part of this.
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Denver
Epstein was really the ringleader. He was one of the main traffickers to help with this sort of blood sampling or blood extraction from children. People on the Epstein list were part of this, right? So you're talking about all the Hollywood elites, you're talking about Biden, you're talking about Clinton, you're talking about everybody, Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey, you name it, right? And part of the Epstein, the big thing. And I know people are probably like, denver, man, you're amazing with this. But part of this too was, right, they, they hung children from hooks, right? You know, on Epstein Island. Epstein island is where they sequestered all these children, right? Where they had their sex parties and where they traffic children, right? You know, so you had pedophiles and Pederasts and everybody you know around there doing crazy stuff. So just evil awful things. But all those evil awful things, Amy, were being done by globalists in the deep state, which are ho to what Democrats. The reason that this is such a huge deal is because Republicans, GOP and MAGA have been pushing conspiracy theories around Epstein. Like he didn't commit suicide in jail.
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Amy
He.
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Denver
Yes he did. Of course he did.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
You have Ghislaine Max Maxwell who's already in jail.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
The woman who helped him do all of this. You have all this. But there was always this, this black book, this Epstein client client list.
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Amy
Okay, so the client list.
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Denver
So now you have the client list. Everybody that was actually part of this massive harvesting, child trafficking way of doing business, working directly with Epstein. And most of these people, who almost all of them were obviously far left leaning globalists in the new World order who wanted to take over the world. This is what probably about 70 million Americans believe.
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Amy
And these guys promised that, that once they took over the government they would release this client blacklist.
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Denver
Suppose you are so part of the.
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Amy
Reason they're, they're, they're, they're following.
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Denver
Listen, Trump's whole thing in his first term, in this term is that he's going to destroy the deep state. I mean we can call him Deep State Donnie now. I mean this is a guy who will not release the Epstein list. Because you know what's going to happen right now is every single MAGA believer, every single person who voted for Trump, the first thing they thought of when the gop, the first word that came in their head when the GOP voted in rules against releasing this right, rules and the amendment from Ro Khanna.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
So they, they voted against the 75 and RUL. Then Ro Khanna brings up an amendment and it loses 211 to 210 on party lines not to release the Epstein, Epstein list. Do you know what the first word that popped in everybody said was? Peto.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
So pedo is now the word of the day in the United States. I wouldn't, I'm probably going to be on Jeopardy. So now you have PETO out there. Now everybody, there's this big wave now. The Republicans who created the conspiracy theory, who created this nonsense, the conspiracy theorists now in charge, Cash Patel at the FBI. After that brilliant montage, you see Cash Patel talking about the little black books, who has it? Glenn Beck.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
Who's nuttier than a house rat.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Amy
So now they don't want to release it.
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Denver
No. Well, or it Never existed. So you have this issue. You have this issue right now. There's no way out. They have to say, okay, so here's a conspiracy theory that's now happening. Biden destroyed the list. Well, if Biden destroyed the list, how did Pam Bondi said she had it on her desk now. You're right. So now you get, oh, Obama destroyed the list. Oh, is that right? So you're telling the one guy who actually went after Epstein. Biden.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
Who really went after them during his watch. You're telling me that he didn't know? How did he then how did he go after him?
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Amy
There's no way Epstein died during the first Trump administration. So how even involved in any of this?
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Denver
Well, I guess. Well, that's exactly right. Well, of course he is, because Biden's part of the new world order. Haven't you been following anything I'm seeing? Amy, my head's exploding here.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
You know, come on now.
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Amy
Well, the Justice Department has said there's nothing in the memos. There's no client list or blackmail material.
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Denver
So liars.
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Amy
What's the point of releasing it?
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Denver
I mean, here's the thing, and let me try to. When crazy eats its own tail, here's where nuttiness and conspiracy theories go completely off the rails because they have to stay completely inconsistent for this to work. So what they're going to say, right, is that Biden destroyed it, or he changed the Epstein list and actually changed the names. You'll have a cons here. Here's what's going to happen. It's going to be a conspiracy that says, you know what? You know what happened? You know, the Epstein list was actually printed on human skin. It was a human skin document. And that's why the dog from Hunter Biden, that's why. I mean, Joe, that's why he attacked Secret Service agents, because they would feed little parts of the Epstein list to the dog and the dog got a taste for human flesh, and that dog would attack the Secret Service agents. So what happens is the reason he attacked the Secret Service agents is because human skin was used for the Epstein list and they fed it to the dog. Like, these are the kind of conspiracy theories you're going to have out there.
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Amy
Yeah.
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Denver
Oh, it's going to be nuttier than that because they're going to talk about secret coding or invisible ink or that the list was actually absconded with or that Trump actually has the real names of the list and there's a secret force right now going out and taking out all these people and they can't tell anybody because it's a top secret black ops list that's going out and killing these people and nobody knows. And that's why Trump's not releasing the list.
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Amy
Okay, now let's get into the two things. Okay?
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Denver
Yes. Come on, Amy.
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Amy
All the conspiracy stuff aside, on all the craziness, okay, they're crazy. But my question to you is one, why would the. Why wouldn't the Trump administration just release the damn thing? Thing. Okay. And then two is what the Dems are doing right now, which a lot of people are saying, oh, this is great, this is going to be Trump's Benghazi or whatever. Is that the right thing to do? Dem's focusing on this. It my belief, kind of stupid conspiracy theory, as opposed to continuing to talk about the things like, I don't know, the tariffs are super high, inflation is back, the prices are super high, incompetence of this administration, the fact that, you know, Ukraine is still being pounded by Putin. I mean, there's a number of other things that we should be focused on right now and not. Well, Epstein. So I'll go to the first question first.
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Denver
I would humbly submit when it comes to the Epstein list, this is the number one issue for the next three years, okay? And I'm going to tell you why. Did any of that stuff help get Trump not elected in 2024? No, no, didn't matter. Didn't matter because he was going to destroy the deep state and the globalists. He was here for Christians. He was here to help the Christians. He is here to recreate America as it was in the glory days of 1870. That's why he won Christian nationalism. Destroying the deep state, destroying the globalists, stopping the wars. How'd that work out for Amy? Yeah, but the other thing was stopping the pedophiles that are the Democrats, stopping these sexual abusers.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
This whole QAnon baseline that really started back during the Tea Party and goes all the way back to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion about blood libel and that the Jews are eating your kids. This is one big evolutionary social media explosion where all this became this cluster bomb of crazy. Like I called it the sticky bomb of conspiracy theories. QAnon, the reason this has worked so well is kind of now you can just ask questions because if they're conspiratorial and they said all this, now they have to answer for the very conspiracy theories that they actually put forth. And I know how to do that. You do, too, because the first question you're going to ask, it's like, was there ever an Epstein list? How do they answer that question? How do you answer it? There's a few things. The first question, where is it?
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
What's happening? Why won't they release it? Number one, it doesn't exist. An Epstein client list doesn't exist. Now, it has been said there's redacted names. Actually, Alan Dershowitz, an idiot, he did say that there's actually a list of redacted names, but politicians who aren't serving. Now, he made sure to say that that means there's politicians that have served on this list. Probably one of them, but I think probably Donald Trump is on there. That's probably the second reason. Right. Trump is on the list himself. Number three people that Trump know is on the list.
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Amy
Yeah.
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Denver
Number four, other GOP politicians are on the list. Or number five, some of his biggest donors are on the list. That's why it's not being released.
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Amy
Yeah.
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Denver
And the reason that they're saying right now that Joe Biden. I don't even.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
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Denver
That the list was destroyed by Joe Biden or that they send that Comey and Obama made the list, James Comey and Obama or Biden made this list is they're trying to build a conspiratorial plausible deniability that the reason that these names are on the list is because Biden, Obama and Comey put them on the list and the real list is gone. That is going to be the conspiracy theory that we have to deal with. That's the next one. That's the next one. But Democrats can attack this and say, well, then you should release the list anyway and then tell us which names the Democrats added to it. We'd love to know. Yeah, there's. They have no way out. If the Democrats have the guts.
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Amy
So Democrats can keep pushing this. It keeps exposing the conspiratorial lies that got us to where we're at. Where we're at right now. As long as they keep pushing it.
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Denver
Yeah. If they keep pushing.
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Amy
Because there's no way out for Republicans.
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Denver
There's no way out. You can't get them out. Nope. Don't give them any quarter. If I'm on Bill Maher and somebody asked me a question about taxes, I'm like, well, first I'm going to talk about the Epstein list. There should never be a time where a Democrat answers the question that a media person is asking. They should immediately go, well, first, before I do anything in policy, I want to know where the Epstein list is. I want to know where it's at. Where are the files? Release them all. What are you scared of it? You know what? The only thing I can think of is the GOP is on that list and they're the ones who killed. They're the ones who killed.
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Amy
Honestly, it's the perfect example of like, politics, Trump. And I'm saying Trump in a, in a, in a way of actual, the word Trump politics, Trump policy these days. I mean, they've kind of always done that in American history. But, like, it's so extreme right now that we're, we're like the, the biggest thing we're talking about or politicians at the highest levels are talking about is this conspiracy theory. But it, but it, it, it could work from a political perspective instead of the things that like, really matter to Americans.
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Denver
Well, if he's lying about the Epstein list, right, what else is he lying about? And by the way, I just want everybody to know I'm dead. Panning a lot of this. I hope everybody's taking this. When me and Amy are talking about conspiracy theories. We don't believe any of this.
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Amy
We don't know. I want people, I'm like, I'm always talking to Denver like, why, why does this even matter? These, these people are nuts. And he's always like, well, let me tell you why it matters. But I know you don't believe this shit.
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Denver
Of course not. I mean, you can't believe this because that means you're insane. That means you're off kilter. So when I'm doing all this deadpan, what I'm giving to the audience is this is exactly the argument you're going to face when you walk in as a facts based person. When delusions overcome data, that's the issue that you have. When fantasy overcomes fact. That's a lot of alarming alliteration, by the way. So, I mean, so that's, that's, that's where we're at right now. So a lot of this is jokes to me and to you and to the listeners, but it's not jokes to the people you're arguing with because they believe that God has ordained Trump to be president and they believe he is here to stomp out evil. And if the person that they believe was going to stomp out evil is hiding the very essence of their, of their belief system, the Epstein files from everybody, if they're the ones hiding that insanity to the people who believe this, they can't get through it. They can't get over it. There's no way out there. And Democrats have to be able to use facts and anti delusion questions to go right at them every time. Never let up for the next three years.
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Amy
Yeah. Well, it's interesting. We're in a different world where we're not even talking about policy most of the time. We're still talking about because we're, we're the people that are in charge of our government right now. The Pam Gandhi's, the Cash Patel's, the Bonjingo, whatever the guy's name is. These people are nuts. And, and we sound like a Quentin Tarantino movie. I'm sorry, we got to get to cask us anything though, because this is a live show.
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Denver
Oh, it is. Well, we got, you know what, and you were just talking about real policy. Right. And we're talking about conspiracy theories. Tariffs, Texas floods.
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Amy
Tariffs, floods, Texas questions about the Texas flood. I don't know what people have their questions coming forward tonight, but I almost.
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Denver
Have, I almost have to put quotes on each side of this for the viewers and I, and I apologize for this. Texas floods. Well, cloud seeding and HARP caused the floods. It was geoengineering and weather manipulation. Right. So instead of talking about the policy of how the best to handle floods, make sure FEMA is well funded, make sure that we have on the ground resources and to make sure that we have good weather prognostication that Noah isn't, you know, is funded. Right. You want to make sure of all that. Instead we're talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, wants to put, you know, to get rid of cloud seeding and geoengineering. And Lee Zelda, the EPA administrator came out and agreed with Marjorie Taylor Greene that the truth's going to come out about weather manipulation. So instead of talking about, you know, facts or talking about policy to help people, we're talking about fantasy and delusion. And that's the whole Epstein thing. And I think Democrats need to start to study and embrace the nuttery that's going on in the far right and how to attack it. But the one thing that the far right's going to hate, if you lie to them about pedophiles, they're coming after you and they should. And I think that's what you have right now.
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Amy
Okay. All right, I believe you.
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Denver
It's so funny because Doug, you know, the producer goes Denver, you might want to clarify when you're kidding a little more with the viewers because I don't, you know, I'm try when I'm doing this I get into this, you know, I'm getting into this massive sort of push of trying to make sure that everybody understands how crazy this really is. And I know, Amy, you've been in Hawaii in the no Snake, you know, world of greatness. But for me, right, looking at the Texas floods, looking at the, the manipulation, the weather manipulation, conspiracy theories coming from the EPA and from Congress, looking at the Epstein files and the Epstein list, conspiracy theories, looking at the fact that they lied either before or after, and there's no way out of it. And that's happening right now. Looking at the tariffs, right, Especially stuff that they've dropped on, like Korea, which is going crazy right now. I got a. From somebody who's trying to help out South Korea and the tariff issue. And they're like, they've lost their. They have tiger teams trying to get around the tariff issues. You have all this. You have Ukraine, right? They had the biggest bombardment ever. And finally Trump changes minor weapons. We should be talking about that. Amy, that's what you love to talk about.
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Amy
We should be. But, you know, I don't know where to begin. I think. Well, first of all, regarding the Texas flood is total tragedy. What I'm thinking about is, I mean, an early warning siren for a county costs about a million dollars. And we have all of the. I'm reading now that there are all these federal funds over the last decade that were allocated toward state and local governments, becoming more resilient, getting more, you know, of these sirens, of these early warning systems. And, and they couldn't get the grant money, and they can't get the grant money because of, you know, red tape. And there's not a lot of people that understand how to, how to get the grant money. And, you know, it's just this. Why is that not a bigger story? Like, Texas apparently hasn't used something like, I don't know, 250 million. I'd have to look it up. But a lot of money that they were allowed to use over the last decade for this very thing. Some of it came from the American rescue plan. And Texas was like, yeah, no, we don't want that money. I mean, it's just ridiculous. That needs to be a story. You're Talking about over 120 people dead in a flash flood in which there was no warning for. Why are we not focused on that? I mean, we'll do hearings in Congress over Benghazi, you know, and where, you know, what, one or two people died or three, I don't even remember now. And, and we, we Don't. We don't seem to get. Whatever act of God. I don't know.
- [29:23]
Denver
Well, it goes completely against the Republican playbook of having any type of accountability since Trump has been part of this. It's the downstream effects of doge public policy. It. This is public policy. But you know what? They did announce a hearing in September, Amy, on aliens. So, you know, I mean, I'm not joking.
- [29:46]
Amy
I know that's.
- [29:47]
Denver
That's not a joke. I. And so now I have to tell the audience that wasn't a joke. There actually is a hearing. Anna Paulina Luna, right, is. Is pushing for these hearings which were supposed to happen in August. I think she forgot. That's congressional recess, Amy. But we can go into that later. But so it got pushed into September. So I have people talking to me because you know how sort of strident I've been against alien abduction conspiracy theories and repressed memory stuff and all that, which is insane, but that's actually happening. So instead of talking about the floods, Amy, I guess I'm violently agreeing with you on a level that, you know, I am. You're right, as usual.
- [30:23]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [30:23]
Denver
That. Why isn't public policy and caring about your constituents number one and not conspiracy theories about Epstein weather manipulation and alien abductions, which seems to be really the baseline of the GOP right now.
- [30:36]
Amy
Why aren't we doing a hearing on why? I don't know. Let me see. $225 million in federal grant money was turned down by Texas that was supposed to be used to protect residents from disasters. Why are we. Why. Why is Texas turning down money? Apparently, they. One report says that states and communities often lack the personnel and expertise to spend it, so they don't really know how to apply for the grants properly. Why are we not having a hearing on that? I mean, I know that sounds boring, but like, to me, that would be smart, serious legislative thinking. Like, hey, we clearly have a problem here. We had 120 people die that didn't need to die. Why. Why is that happening? Can we prevent this going forward? But call me, I don't know, boring.
- [31:27]
Denver
Call you serious. Call you caring, Amy, that's okay to be serious and caring. Want to help people. You know, that's. That's what we. That's what. That's what you should be doing. Instead. We have cosplaying fantasists wearing pajamas on cross country trips for votes.
- [31:42]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [31:43]
Denver
Like Nancy Mace or, you know, we have Marjorie Taylor Greene and the craziness or Boebert today.
- [31:48]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [31:49]
Denver
Lauren Boebert saying that Matt Gates should be the independent counsel that's actually investigating the Epstein files. The layers of that are so hilarious. Lauren Boebert, the public theater groper, saying that Matt Gaetz, the Venmo, famous Venmo.
- [32:04]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [32:04]
Denver
Payer of girls to have sex, should be the ones investigating Epstein.
- [32:10]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [32:10]
Denver
Who is a child trafficker and rapist.
- [32:13]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [32:14]
Denver
About the Epstein files or list which was lied about by the Trump administration.
- [32:20]
Amy
Yeah.
- [32:21]
Denver
The layers are crazy there. I don't know what to do. I, I know that we're getting into cask us anything.
- [32:27]
Amy
Let's get, let's get it going.
- [32:29]
Denver
Let's get it going. Cascus. Anything. Is this the first question? What do we got? What do we got? So I think we got Tim, Tim Price. It's the corruption. It's obvious. It's in plain sight. But it has some bipartisan dimensions. I agree. Do you see some kind of Constitutional Convention or truth and reconciliation needing to happen? First of all, great question. Second, the issue that I think we have, Tim, if I may, and Tim has asked some questions of me before and you, Amy, here's the issue. What is truth? What is it right now? Is, is truth what you believe or is it truth what you can prove is truth what's under a congressional hearing or is truth what's happening in front of your face?
- [33:09]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [33:09]
Denver
And right now I think we had truth and reconciliation. We're still going to have a 50, 50 split of the country. You know, maybe it's not 5050 exactly, Amy, but you're going to have a split in the country. Exactly. What is the definition of truth? Is it your truth? Is it an emotional truth? Is it a facts based truth?
- [33:25]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [33:25]
Denver
Is God, is God actually dictating policy or is data dictating policy? And I think those are the things that are going to be very difficult. Yes. I think we need to have something where there's a baseline of truth. Does the Constitutional Convention do it? I don't think so.
- [33:38]
Amy
I think we're at this point, I think it's hard. Well, I want to ask you though, Denver, but before I do, I want to talk about truth for a little bit. The Constitutional Convention piece I want to get back to because what I want to ask you is if there's one thing that you can change about our Constitution, what would it be? So think about that. But I also want to just mention this and maybe we need to, I need to do a little bit more research before I talk about it it extensively. A little bit more. But you know, I was on Vacation to Hawaii. We did the last few nights at a military base there on the water because they have some cabins there that are really cool. And we noticed that while we were on the base in the cabins they have TVs. We turn on TVs. You know, you've been in the military, so what, what does military bases have sort of their own cable network, right?
- [34:31]
Denver
Yeah, yeah, you got military networks.
- [34:33]
Amy
Did you know that? Like, like they only play for, for cable news networks on that base there was no cnn, there was no msnbc. Guess, guess what they did have Fox. Yeah, all the Fox channels. And so I thought, wow, this is interesting. I need to do a little bit more research before we talk about this a little more because I didn't know if that was just a one off or maybe it was just like the day I was there or something. But like that is really scary. And when you talk about truth, it's like where, where are you getting your information from? You know, we, we. It's.
- [35:15]
Denver
I don't know what to say. In the montage, you know, they showed all the Fox News people talking about the Epstein list and Epstein files, which, what a brilliant montage because it's really just the tip of the iceberg on the, on the years of Epstein conspiracy theories, you know, pumped out by Fox Newsmax. Tucker Carlson, right. Let's look at the right wing influencers like Benny Johnson, right? You know, it just goes on and on and on, right? Glenn Beck, right. All these, all these nut bags. Matt Walsh now and you know, even the Tates, Andrew Tates of the world, right? All these really awful human beings. I don't know, I don't know how we change this unless when the next administration comes in, Amy, they say, listen, there has to be equal time on all networks played. And here's what's going to happen. It almost needs to be a top down directive because in the military, obviously we're not in the democracy. They can dictate whatever they want on base.
- [36:07]
Amy
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:08]
Denver
And I think honestly, no cable news should be shown on base. If I'm the commander, it's abc, CBS and NBC. That's all it's allowed to be shown. Fox News is a virulent, in some ways a virulent propaganda machine. Now are there certain shows in msnbc you sort of roll your eyes, of course, CNN all the time just watch Jake Tapper. But I mean I think, but I think when you're going through all this stuff, I think you have to have a very specific way of making sure you don't have radicalization going on a military basis. And I just think you take away all cable news. That's. But that's, you know, you know, people are like, oh, my God, Dan.
- [36:45]
Amy
You know, I'm not for treating people in the military as children and restricting, you know, and saying you can't. I mean, I, I'm all for, like, freedom of speech. It's just, it's, it's frustrating to me to, to not see the other news channels and just see Fox News. I mean, that, that, to me, that, by the way, they, they have been. They were the ones sued for, you know, lying for. I mean, I mean, it wasn't MSNBC, it was.
- [37:14]
Denver
Fox News is $787 million.
- [37:16]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [37:17]
Denver
For Dominion voting systems. The other thing, too, I'm talking about specifically in squadron buildings or flight buildings and things like that. I'm not talking about in homes. And you can watch whatever the hell you want. I'm talking about in specific public spaces in military areas. I'm not talking about homes. I mean, it's a free country. You can do what the hell you want. So, you know, that's where I'm at. Of course, if somebody's gonna run against me, they're going to play that one clip and I'm like, yeah, it's out of context, right? So, but, yeah, so that's, that's what I want, you know, people to know. So I, I don't know if we have another question. Here we go.
- [37:45]
Amy
All right, here we go. Okay. This is from a YouTube user. I saw a newsfeed that said that half the National Guard is being pulled out of la. Are they going to be sent to Texas to help in the recovery efforts? That's a good question. I did see in the news that just Today they're withdrawing 2,000 National Guardsmen from protecting buildings. Denver in LA. And so the one, the one question I had, this has been going on for over a month now, right? I mean, my, my sense of time is a little off because of vacation, but I think it's. But they've been there for over a month.
- [38:23]
Denver
Yes.
- [38:24]
Amy
And my question is, like, what is the cost of this? I mean, they were protecting these federal buildings. Really?
- [38:32]
Denver
What happened? Nothing.
- [38:34]
Amy
Really. And what was the cost of this deployment?
- [38:38]
Denver
It's, you know, it's unbelievable. And what really happened in la, I think it was just nuts.
- [38:43]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [38:43]
Denver
And, you know, I think that's part of it too.
- [38:45]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [38:45]
Denver
If you're looking at what happened in la, it was an overreaction based on A political message rather than what the National Guard really needed there. And how dare us. Oh, Seneca Project's on. Holy crap, man. We're getting a big. This is crazy. Got some cool people on here now. I think, I think what's really, what really bothers me about this when you're talking about actually deploying the National Guard, is that we're having common sense questions that are so incredible from our audience. It says, why are they just moving to Texas for help? And there's not even a thought of that as far as I can see. Downstream on policy, when you're talking about what happened in LA, nothing happened. They didn't need them. LA, CA had it under control. So that's, again, what scares me is the propaganda that we're pushing forward here. And when I see a question like this, Amy, and, and we have the facts at our fingertips like you do, it really bothers me that that's actually not being said more often by politicians rather than the very smart people on this show who are bringing it up.
- [39:40]
Amy
Well, I also think that, like, I know the Texas National Guard has already been on scene and done a lot of work. The Coast Guard has done a lot of work, a lot of saving lives and stuff like that. So I think that the effort after the floods has been tremendous. From what I can see and read, it's really, from my perspective, it's how did we get here? Like, what, why did we not know? And why are we still talking about cutting FEMA and noaa, you know, the, the National Oceanography Organization that does all of these predictions? How come we can't get money to these counties to do, to get these relatively cheap, relatively cheap systems that would warn people. If you're in a camp in which you can't have a cell phone, Seriously, I mean, I was at a swim meet today. My kids were swimming today. And I think during the swim meet, like, three or four of these Amber Alerts went off. And it was like a missing child or something, which they found. Another Amber Alert comes on and tells us they found him. Okay, that's great. But like, like the whole place, during the swim meet, the, the, the, the alarm system, it was almost like we all had this, this siren going off. But if you don't have these cell phones now, you need a community alarm system to kind of tell people what's going on.
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Denver
You and your common sense. Come on, Amy. I mean, this is just crazy, you.
- [41:16]
Amy
Know, and Denver, Bangladesh, okay, that has a lot of flooding. Third World country has invested in these sirens. They Work now. Texas can do the same. You know, just saying.
- [41:31]
Denver
Well, I mean, I think. Oh, goodness, more questions coming out. Here we go, here we go, here we go. So it feels like these conspiracy theories are becoming more mainstream. How do we counter the appeal of QAnon without pushing followers further into their. Into their beliefs? Is de radicalization even possible? Wow. Okay. Okay, I've had this question, so this one's going to be nuts. Are we ready for this? Amy?
- [41:56]
Amy
I mean, let me just say one thing and then, because I know you have a long answer and yours is going to be better because this is your thing. My. My only it'll be short, is that the best thing to do is to kind of continue to throw out the simple stuff like, hey, where are the Epstein files? Else, you know, where. If this was. If this was such an important thing, I mean, it just kind of, kind of retort by saying, you know, maybe not the truth, but just like asking them basic questions that make them think. I don't know. What's your thought?
- [42:33]
Denver
Yeah, I mean, I think the, the part of the question, you know, when we talk about pre bunking instead of debunking and you're talking about de radicalization or deprogramming. I've had this, you know, Mary Idris Miller from American University, we've been on stage. I was in that, Remember the movie Against All Enemies about the radicalization of veterans during January 6th, and she was the light, I was the dark. And she thought that pre bunking, before they knew about conspiracy theories, There was a 20% right. Switch on certain people with certain belief systems. And I'm like, okay. And. And you know, is this a controlled environment? And I love what she does. I mean, she's one of the best people on the planet, you know, doing this work when you're actually. So when you're in the field, though, and I say this sort of. I'm not trying to be glib, but you know, when you're at a West Virginia family reunion, like I've been at many times, pre bunking doesn't work. There's no de radicalization strategy for these individuals. You can ask them questions, though, to try to lead them to get there eventually. But you also have this issue where you're going against their. A very set belief system system that's usually based on fantasy anyway, so how do you. Okay, so for instance, you know, when you're talking about de radicalization for specifically on the Epstein files, and you're talking about in my family, there's my family Members that believe that God ordained Trump to be president. He's here to deliver us from the evil right of the Democrats. I mean, that's specific. It's that specific. So when I go and say, well, what do you talk, what do you think about the Epstein files or Epstein list? When I've talked about the lies that he's done before, how about the fact that he's a sexual abuser, adjudicated? What about what he said on the, on the, on the bus with Billy Bush? How about the fact that he's a felon or the fact that Trump University was fraudulent? You know, I go into a lot of this. They're like, well, the thing is, it's the deep state that went after him, right? Evil is always there going after Trump. It's made up. And my question to them is like, well, how about what, what is the other stuff made up too, that Trump talks about others? Well, no, because he's ordained by God or he's here to save us from the Democrats or the globalists, right? There's no way to try to flip them, right? If you have a large group, there's no way to flip them and de. Radicalize them in any way. It just doesn't work. You can hit them one on one, though. And what I've told people, this is a house to house battle. You have to confront stupidity or confront ignorance or confront credulity or confront the fact that they're lying or confront that they are just wrong. Somebody's lied to them.
- [45:05]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Them, Right?
- [45:06]
Denver
And that happens a lot. People get lied to and they believe it. You have to confront it immediately, even if it's uncomfortable. So if you're in a house and you're, you know, people talk about Thanksgiving and all that, but it could be any day, right? You're at a summer picnic and somebody comes up to you and says, Biden is obviously on the Epstein list, right? That's when you attack. You attack with everything you've got. And you can do it with a smile. You can do it. Compassion, I call compassionate confrontation. But what you have to do is you got to say, listen, well, why won't Trump release the Epstein list of Biden's not on it. That would be your first question.
- [45:35]
Amy
Question, yeah.
- [45:35]
Denver
Trump's hiding it. That's how you, you start. You have to unwrap their spiritual belief system and pull it apart. But really the most effective way is one on one. Okay, that's, that's my answer.
- [45:49]
Amy
That's a good one.
- [45:49]
Denver
That's, that's my answer. So, all right.
- [45:53]
Amy
So Denver, where. So here's a question from Nina.
- [45:56]
Denver
Holy.
- [45:57]
Amy
Where does Denver think the data went from the 1-2-6 committee?
- [46:02]
Denver
I don't know.
- [46:03]
Amy
Yeah.
- [46:04]
Denver
Because a lot of it is gone. That's the thing that I think that I think the independents and the left are afraid to say. And how would I know that?
- [46:11]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [46:11]
Denver
Amy was like, God, how would Denver know that? Because I was a senior technical Advisor on the January 6th committee, number one. Number two, nobody knows where our phone records are. Five million hard pages are gone. The monster graph that we built that showed how the white nationalist groups were connected, how the rally planners were connected, the phone calls, it happened with White House staff.
- [46:34]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [46:35]
Denver
Which was barely reported.
- [46:37]
Amy
Are they gone now or did they. Did they. They get lost during the Biden administration?
- [46:43]
Denver
Well, that's. We don't know. So it was a few months ago. So when we had gotten into this, right at the end of the Biden administration, when the Trump administration was coming in, I made a call to an attorney to call the National Archives because I wanted to make sure that all of our records were there. What's odd about this? There were only two hard drives. They asked us to send one to the House rul. Right. Which should have it somewhere, whether it's Democrat or Republican, and to one of the investigative offices, probably the FBI. So I'm like, well, it's got to be one place or the other. Well, the fact is, I know it's never even been open because it's encoded.
- [47:18]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [47:18]
Denver
It's actually encrypted.
- [47:20]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [47:20]
Denver
And we have the other encryption key, or my guys had the other encryption key. I didn't. The actual technical individuals did. So we were like, this is really odd.
- [47:28]
Ghislaine Maxwell
Right.
- [47:28]
Denver
We have more data than the FBI has ever had to analyze. And we had the best team, you know, people who used to work for intelligence agen agencies and phone companies that went through this and. And did all this work. Well, anyhow, they called the National Archives. They said, we cannot locate the hard drives. Now, that is still, as I know, a fact today. The issue that you have when you have a committee that dissembles that quickly, it's not conspiracy theories. It's nothing like that. What happens is that people leave. You have different passwords or different systems. Yeah, but when you lose hard drives, something's up. Or they're just dumb and incompetent and they just threw them in a pile somewhere. So when you see these conspiracy theories, like people are destroying the January 6th, either Republicans who did Destroy some and Democrats who couldn't find is mostly incompetence. The thing is, with something this important, yeah, there shouldn't be incompetence and we should be angry. But, you know, I thought about getting an attorney to actually see if I can't actually find out where those are, because I think the American public should know exactly who was calling who in the 187 minutes. The Trump was quiet.
- [48:36]
Amy
I know you probably couldn't do this because it's probably illegal, but I wish you would have, like, kept something to the side. But, like, you're right, I would never do that. 24, 25 years is that there's. There's not a whole lot of conspiracies going on. I'm not to say that there isn't ever. But like, it's mostly incompetence. It's mostly just people moving in and out, especially in the military. I mean, in the military, you're like, you're moving every three years. You got new people coming in all the time. I mean, it's. It just happens a lot.
- [49:14]
Denver
Well, it's what scares me though, Amy, is incompetence and stupidity can be terminal. And if we don't have a government that can even have the competence to sequester and store terabytes of actual investigative data for one of the most dire times in our history, it allows conspiracy theories to run through the woods with their hair on fire, screaming and covered in their own filth. And I think that's the issue that we have, right, is that the conspiracy theorists can scream and they can always flip between something like the Epstein files to January 6th. And it's very difficult, right, to. To defend everything when all the data that, you know is out there, right. Can't be immediately pulled for an attack vector, you know, as, you know, right. You want to have all your data before you actually pickle and. And, you know, so. And I think that's the issue that I have right now is I know it. I wrote the book on it. It's, you know, not to say that I would ever nakedly put my book out there and advertise for it. It's not over my shoulder or anything. Sitting on the Truth in the Barrel Barrel, you know, or the Bigfoot. It's complicated book, which is about how beliefs crush people. Like the Breach. I would never or just come and advertise my books that are right over my shoulder. But I guess, you know what I'm saying, though, is that, I don't know, I just, I Just think we're, we're in a really bad time when we can't actually track our own investigative data.
- [50:36]
Amy
Yeah. All right, we have, we have time for one more question.
- [50:40]
Denver
And this is a, from the Seneca Project too. Amy, you get to read this. Yeah, I know.
- [50:45]
Amy
All right, here's what it says. What do you think is the breaking point? Point? When the cognitive dissidence finally cracks and mega voters realize they've been sold a lie. Is there a breaking point? God help us.
- [51:00]
Denver
You want to try it first? Because I have a two word answer.
- [51:03]
Amy
You know, my feeling is it, I, I, I've become jaded. In my days of being in politics, I, I sort of went into politics thinking the best of people and now it's different. And I don't, I don't, I don't know if these mega folks are ever going to change. I mean, I, I don't think, even if, even if presented and I hear what you're saying, Denver, about, you know, presenting facts and the truth to them and asking tough questions. I feel like there's just like the, it's, it's the, the, the brain cells are not going to connect. Connect. In other words, they're, they're not gonna, no, no matter what, no matter what you say, even if you say at nighttime, it's nighttime, it's dark outside, they're gonna say, no, there's a sun right there. I mean, I, I feel like we're.
- [51:57]
Denver
At this point, you know, I, I think the politically correct way is to say synaptically challenged. Sammy. So, so, and I think, you know, but I don't know if we can put that question up again by the Seneca Project. I think I remember all of, of it, but I think it was the last part of it. When you're talking about cognitive dissonance. Yeah. Here. What's the breaking point? Two words. Yeah, Epstein list. So the, okay, so again, cognitive dissonance. You know, we did a whole show on this, by the way, I had an old show years ago and by the way, Matt Anderson turned me on to where cognitive dissonance came from, which was a study back in the 50s. And we can go into all that another time. That, that was actually a word that came up up about a group of people who thought a UFO was going to come and take them away. When it didn't, and they kept praying and it never came back, they said it was their prayers that actually stopped the UFO from going to take them away. So this researcher, and I think I'm right about the story came up with the term cognitive dissonance. The issue that you have right now is that you finally have a chance to break through on a spiritual level. When you have people that are engaged in spiritual warfare and the people that they thought was on their side are hiding evil in their eyes and they're not releasing the New World Order pedophile list into the world so that they can identify their enemies. There are issues and you can have the influencers who are getting their talking points directly from the RNC and everybody else, because you see the same thing over and over again. The new thing is, why didn't Biden release the list, Right? So what, you know, it's, it's such cognitive dissonance. Well, well, guess what? Biden didn't. So Trump should, right? Boom. All of a sudden their eyes cross, their hair stands up on end, right? They run around in a circle, they fall down and they hope the lightning hits them, right? I mean, that's really what happens because there's no way to get out of this question. So when Tara and Michelle from Seneca Project they ask a question like that, and me and you were talking about it and I'm sorry, I love these topics, as you know. Amy, you're probably. Good Lord, Deborah loves this.
- [54:03]
Amy
I mean, you're the conspiracy theory guy.
- [54:06]
Denver
You think? I think that is the issue we have, right, Is now we can hit them in the spiritual junk. And I think that's what we can, that's what we could do. We need to go to war and tell people that they're being lied to, which they've been lied to over and over again. And I think I, I hope that quote never gets out if I'm running for office, what I just said. But it's the truth. It's time to go to war and tell them truthfully with compassion, compassionate confrontation. You've been lied to. You've relied to then or you're lied to now. When else have they lied to you? Bam and bam and bam and bam and bam. And we're only going to get 1 to 3% of them to turn. Amy, you're exactly right. I think it's a 1 to 3% turn rate. But 1 to 3% when you're looking at gross voting is a lot that could actually turn.
- [54:56]
Amy
Some have already turned. I mean, we, some have already. We read stories all the time about people who, who that have sort of seen the light. So, you know, it's there.
- [55:05]
Denver
Here we go. It's there. And I tell you, Amy, this was a Great show. I know that you just came back from Hawaii and had to jump right into the Epstein list. The Texas floods, QAnon and then in the awfulness of what has since you've been in Hawaii and the no snake paradise. I'm just so glad you're back.
- [55:21]
Amy
I am back and I'm looking forward to getting back into this. We've got unfiltered later on this week. There's a, there's still a lot to talk about. I mean, I want to know. We're at the 90 day point, right, for Trump. He had 200 deals that he was going to make. I, I don't know where we stand on that. I was in Hawaii, but there's a lot of, of waste and incompetence. You know, Elon Musk said that he would in his Doge would, would cut trillions of dollars. Where, where are we on on that Ukraine? Didn't Donald Trump say that he would, would end that war? Where are we on that then? I mean that. We got a lot to talk about in the next.
- [55:55]
Denver
I can't to wait.
- [55:56]
Amy
Wait.
- [55:56]
Denver
I can't wait. You know what? If, if people want to hear about this and everything Amy just said, you got to subscribe, you got to go to your favorite podcast. You got to download us. You got to click these little buttons that say subscribe, right? You got to follow us on social media. You can even see us on True Social. Amy's like, let's go right at them. So we're on True Social if they're brave enough to watch the truth. So Amy, so good, you're so glad you're back. I love this show and thank you everybody for watching tonight.
- [56:23]
Amy
All right, good to be with you and cheers.
- [56:26]
Denver
See you Thursday.
- [56:27]
Amy
All right.
- [56:32]
Denver
Hello.
- [56:34]
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