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Cask Us Anything | Truth In The Barrel Live! 07.29.25
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On this very special episode of Truth In The Barrel, Amy and Denver go live to talk about the further unraveling of the Epstein debacle. Did Trump just admit to employing sixteen year old girls at his spa in Mar A Lago? Much more! *This...
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Amy McGrath
Welcome everyone. Truth in the Barrel live. I'm Amy McGrath.
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Denver Riggleman
I'm in a mood. I'm in a mood. I'm in a mood. I'm Denver Riggleman. Listen, I, I know we're supposed to wait to. I'd already taken a couple sips of our four grain bourbon and I'm just in a mood. I'm in a mood. But go ahead. Yes, it's good to see.
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Amy McGrath
It's good to see you. And before we, we have a lot to get through. But tell me, tell us all what you're drinking.
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Denver Riggleman
I am drinking our four grain. So my wife, I dared her, just like with the honey rye, we did a four grain where we blended our single barrel, right. Weeded bourbon. And we said, well, can we find a rye bourbon to do a four grain? So you're talking about. So let me explain this, Amy. So obviously me and you know, because we're aficionados and experts on bourbon, that bourbon is over 50.
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Amy McGrath
I just like to drink it.
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Denver Riggleman
Well, that makes you an expert, Amy. So 51, right. Has to, you have to be 51 corn, right. To have a bourbon. Right. There's age limits, barrel type of stuff. I can go to all the federal definitions, but has to be over 51% corn. Most of the middle, most bourbons, the middle is either whiskey. I'm sorry, it's all whiskey. It's either wheat or rye. So my wife makes a weeded sweet mash bourbon. What if we blended with a ride sweet mash bourbon. And that's our four grain. So it has corn, wheat, rye and malted barley. Four grain bourbon, 92 proof. Age between three and six years. You know, we can only use the youngest age. Right. But my God, the way she blends a whiskey. So now we have our single barrel with MGP rye whiskey and we blended it. So that's what I'm. Okay, that makes sense.
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Amy McGrath
Very good. Well I'm drinking Bernheim original Kentucky street Whiskey.
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Denver Riggleman
Wonderful.
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Amy McGrath
So this, and I'm learning all about this thanks to you. But it is a called a wheat whiskey because it has over 50% of wheat as the primary ingredient. Okay. So it has corn and barley as a secondary ingredient. That's why it can call itself a wheat whiskey as you know. And also what's interesting about this is it's aged for seven years. So they see that they mark, you know. And I don't honestly. So like you tell me Denver, like does it matter how long it's been aged?
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Denver Riggleman
Oh, it does ma', am. It does now. So there's a lot of schools of thoughts here. Right. And yes it matters especially younger whiskeys aren't going to be to that area. When you're looking at all the sugar transfers and things like that in the barrel, you want to make sure that it's right. Now the issue is Amy, seven years is a really nice sweet spot. If you think in Maker's Mark, if my memory is probably not perfect. They're so good at hitting the sweet spot that they barrel I think between six and three quarter and seven and a half years or something like that. The issue that you have like, like a Pappy Van Winkle. I love their 20 year. They're 23 years age. Too long, it's too tanniny and too woody. For me, I'm more of a 20 year pappy van Winkle. But for us, our sweet spot for our whiskey is usually between 5 and 8 where we're like holy crap. We found. But we also found that sometimes even at the five or six it's not ready or it's starting to get to the point where like we need to barrel that. So Bernheim, which I am a huge fan. What a pull tonight. What a pool. Amy McGrath Bernheim is was our model to make our own silverback wheat whiskey which was a bestseller when we were making it. It's a little bit more difficult to make because of the enzyme stuff we gotta do with the wheat whiskey. But seven year Bernheim, they've sort of found that sweet spot. Bernheim's gonna be a little bit of a sweeter whiskey because you don't it. Because it doesn't have, you know, a rye filler stuff like that. And wheat is usually makes it a bit of a sweeter whiskey. I love Bernheim. The fact that you would pick a Bernheim and it's good. It's so good. I, I tell you they distill it.
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Amy McGrath
In, in Louisville apparently And. And then it's bottled down in. In Bardstown. So, you know all this. But it's. It's very.
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Denver Riggleman
Yes, ma'.
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Amy McGrath
Am.
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Denver Riggleman
I also like the way they age. They're smart. We were. You know, we built these big Rick houses in Bernheim. You know, I think that they. They stack their barrels in Connex. So, I mean, it's really just one on top of the other. It's hot. It's awesome. From, if I remember correctly, with Bernheim, I hope I'm not getting them mixed up with another distiller. I'm sorry. I've been to so many freaking barrel houses in my life. But. But yeah, I just. I. The fact that you pulled a Bernheim tonight lets me know your brilliance, because that. Cheers. That is a great pool.
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Amy McGrath
Cheers.
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Denver Riggleman
Whiskeys are fantastic. We do.
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Amy McGrath
Because we have a lot to get through here.
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Denver Riggleman
I am in a mood now.
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Amy McGrath
Before we do, though, I want to make sure that everybody is. Let's see. You got to follow us on YouTube. Instagram, right? I mean, you. You. Oh, you know, to follow us, Deborah.
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Denver Riggleman
If you're not following us, you're a loser. So here's where you need to go. You need to. You need to go to YouTube, need to subscribe there. You need to make sure you follow on all our socials. Amy was even brave. Brave enough to sign us up to True. Um, but especially right, you need to make sure that you download your favorite podcast. I don't care if it's Spotify, I don't care if it's Apple. Go get us. And right now, Amy, I will tell you, our podcast is doing pretty damn well. So.
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Amy McGrath
And for the live shows, you can go on YouTube and you can ask us questions right in our ask us anything portion. So that's like the fun part of the live show. So, you know, be prepared to do that tonight. Switch over, ask us some questions, and we'll do our best.
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Denver Riggleman
Yeah, and I love. And by the way, didn't you come up. Didn't you come up with that Cask USA question? Because I think it's a bit brilliant. I mean, are people paying attention? Well, what's great about it? I think somebody, like, ask us. No, it's Cascus a cast K A S K. Cask us a question. And that's because we're Truth in the Barrel Amy, and I'm very excited to be here.
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Amy McGrath
All right, so. So I want to start out with the news of the day today, when there's a lot of it. We're going to get To. To the luxury jet that Trump just accepted from the Middle east and all kinds of stuff, firings at the National Security Agency and that sort of thing. But the Epstein stuff, so. Yeah, I guess so. So for those people that are kind of new to this and what happened today, I guess in the last 24 hours, Trump was asked about the Epstein stuff, and he made some what I think are very disturbing comments about it when he was asked about a young woman whose name is Virginia. I'm going to butcher her last name, Geoffrey. She was very young, 16 years old, when she was victimized by Jeffrey. Jeffrey Epstein and his group of people that did that. And Donald Trump was. Was asked about her, and he basically said that. We'll play the. The audio here, but that he was mad at Epstein because Epstein stole her and was stealing help. He called help from Mar? A Lago.
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Donald Trump
Epstein has a certain reputation, obviously. Just curious, were some of the workers that were taken from you. Were some of them young women? Were some of them young women? Well, I don't want to say, but everyone knows the people that were taken. And it was the concept of taking people that work for me as bad. But that story's been pretty well out there. And the answer is, yes, they were young women. What did they do in the spa? In the spa? Yeah, people that work in the spa. I have a great spa, one of the best spas in the world in Mar a Lago. And people were taken out of the spa, hired by him. In other words, gone. And other people would come and complain, this guy is taking people from the spa. I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it, I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you taking our people. Whether it was spa or not spa, I don't want him taking people. And he was fine. And then not too long after that, he did it again. And I said, out of here.
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Amy McGrath
Mr. President, did one of those stolen, you know, persons that include Virginia Mur.
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Donald Trump
I don't know. I think she worked at the spa. I think so. So I think that was one of the people he. He stole her. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever.
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Amy McGrath
Denver, what you got layers.
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Denver Riggleman
Like I said, I'm in a mood. So here's the thing. So he admitted that he knew that Epstein was taking girls. Number one. Number two, this is what gets me. Hey, everybody. Yeah, he was taking girls. I warned him not to take girls, but if you're ever going to traffic girls, it's out of the best Spa. The best spas at Mar A Lago. You should see the tile work there. I tell you what, if you're going to traffic girls, that's where you traffic them out of. You traffic them out of Marla. What the hell is that? It's this rambling, sort of layered, not only awareness of what Epstein was doing, it says this also. And Amy, I, I know that, you know, we like to use the common sense hammer here, so I'm going to use it really. So he said he really didn't have that much of a relationship with Epstein. Right. We talked about the Epstein files that he ran on in the Epstein list. That obviously is being hidden right now or it's being redacted or changed by them when they're saying that Biden Obama changed it. It's ludicrous. But he admitted to a long standing relationship. Epstein utilized his spa, utilized the girls in his spa. Of course, it was the best, biggest, beautiful spa, you know, that people were actually being trafficked out of. And he said eventually, hey, that's enough. You can traffic girls, but don't traffic them out of Mar A Lago. Right. Even though I know that you've already stolen a few of them. Stolen or taken some of the girls. Yeah, these are girls. And by the way, it's rape. Right, Is what they're talking about here. So he's lightly and glibly validating his very, very connection with Epstein while trying to sell the best spa in the world at Mar A Lago. It's so insane, so brazen, so grotesque, so ludicrous, so stupid, so moronic, so evil that anybody with the right mind in the media right now, Amy, would be saying, oh, so he did have a long standing relationship with Epstein and he did know about the trafficking?
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Amy McGrath
Well, yeah, I mean that, that's what this leads me to believe, that he definitely knew about what Epstein was doing and he was kind of okay with it. He was only mad when they took some of his girls, you know, and because he says that it didn't just happen once, he implies that it happened over and over again. And so in the language that he uses is very disturbing to me when he uses words like stealing, it's almost like these young girls are his property, you know, and the other thing that you, you talked about, and I want to make sure everybody knows this particular individual that they're talking about who was a victim, was 16 years old. So when, when she was, quote, stolen, she was 16. Now why would a 16 year old be working at a spa?
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Denver Riggleman
Dang it. That's right. In Mar a Lago, that's where. So when you were, when you were talking there, I'm like, do I bring that right? So we now have validation that there were underage girls being used for massages at Mar a Lago. So is that what you're saying? If you think about. That's why I think I'm in a mood. Because now you have a media that's complicit through their own inability to damage their own access because they don't have the talent or they're not incentivized properly. And I'm saying that very loosely to say, hey, wait a minute, so there were underage girls working as masseuses at Mar a Lago. Go. What, how does that happen? What, how do you, what's the hiring process for young girls doing massages? And by the way, what type of massages were given at Mar a Lago? This is. You're too. It's so easy. It's so baseball baddish. Right? There's no reason why anybody with an IQ above can't do a follow on question about a president who just admitted a long standing relationship with a pedophile who was stealing underage girls out of the very.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah. And then, and then the other thing we didn't play was his language regarding, oh, I didn't have the privilege of going down to the island. Was, was that supposed. I mean Trump supporters, those of you who are watching, who are out there, was that a joke? Like the, the mega, mega. Was that, was that a joke? Because I, I don't know. I mean, I didn't have the privilege of going to that island where they raped and molested young girls. Like, seriously, it's just sick.
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Denver Riggleman
It's sick. And I think, you know what? Listen, people can say, well, Denver, the argument is this, right? Well, Denver, the working age in Florida is 14. Okay, first of all, interesting. It's Florida. I'm not gonna. You know what? I'm in a mood and I don't.
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Amy McGrath
I, I get you. You could be a lifeguard. Okay. You can, you can be a soccer referee. I got it. Like the, the, you can work, right? But that's, that's work. But let's, let's talk about us work in a spa. Seriously.
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Denver Riggleman
In a spa. And what are you doing? Are you have hands on flesh, right? Are you in a bikini? Are you in a bathing suit? Right? And, and I think, I think also what it is, Amy, is that I think people are really afraid to ask those questions. Specifically for a lot of reasons right there. First of all, the answer is going to be brutal. There's no way around it. If, if, if there's a 16 year old female who was trafficked and taken. Right. And her hands are on males as a young girl in a massage parlor. Really what it is at Mar a Lago, how do you answer that question? Like, do you say, well, and here's the first thing that Donald Trump would say. I'm a Donald Trump whisperer. Right. I can go into a complete moron stance. Right. As I do this. But the first thing you say, well, I didn't hire him. Well, so you don't know what's going on in your own mansion. How do you know what's going on in the country? How do you know that there's not pedophiles running around everywhere right now if you don't know it? Like, there's no way out of these questions. If you had a press willing to answer the right questions. Yeah.
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Amy McGrath
Oh, and you're gonna have people, oh, she's probably just handing out towels. Yeah, okay, whatever.
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Denver Riggleman
Well, I guess a lot of them are handing out to.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah. There's a lot of the other thing I wanted to ask you. So this immunity, the, the, the woman, Maxine, I'm gonna butcher her name.
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Denver Riggleman
Delane Maxwell.
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Amy McGrath
Thank you. Yes, thank you. Who's in jail right now? Who's part of the Epstein problem? She's criminal, she's sick and did all of these things to all these young women. She is saying she won't talk to Congress or to the public unless she's granted immunity or President Trump pardons her. So, you know, what do you think?
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Denver Riggleman
You know, Comer just said that he wasn't going to do that at this point, which surprised me. You know, as we both know, Comer right over for now, that's exactly where I was. Yep, for now. So Comer said he wasn't going to give her immunity at this time, which is so interesting. You already had known that that's exactly what he would say. He's going to wait till Trump tells him what to do. And that's, that's what I'm trying to tell people. Right. That he's waiting for Trump to tell him what to do in this situation. I think, though, you get to a point and people said Trump's untouchable if, if they voted for him before, they're going to vote for him. Amy, it's really, really hard. You're getting to a point that he's lied about so much on this front that people are thinking he's a pedophile.
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Amy McGrath
And I think that's what, it just reeks of corruption. Like seriously, she's gonna tell the truth now that she's pardoned and somehow if she says, oh, Trump didn't have anything to do with it, we're gonna supposed to believe that? Of course she's gonna say Trump didn't have anything to do with it. She just got pardoned. That's the deal. Like it's right in front of us.
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Denver Riggleman
Well, she got, already got lit up for perjury, right? So gotta remember this is a person who's a pathological serial rapist and child trafficker. Let me, let me just say some of those words again. Serial rapist and child trafficker. I saw that you needed to take another drink, Amy, and I agree. So those are, this is, this is who you're dealing with and somebody who's already perjured herself. Why are we revisiting this? There's only one reason. Trump has to find an angle. Because he's on the list. We already know it. He has to say it. Not only that, he's already now admitted to a long standing relationship. So now you got these building blocks because even if you're an inveterate liar, you're a pathological liar like Trump who automatically comes up with the lowest hanging fruit lie and then they try to spin out of it almost like a vortex of stupid. I mean, you know, it's like HP Love crack, you know, Lovecraftian levels of stupid. Right? It's just, it's. Well, there's no words, you know, but that's what's happening.
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Amy McGrath
Say, wait for Trump to say my name was planted.
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Denver Riggleman
Well, he already did, by the way. He's, he's already said his name has been planted in the files by Biden. Because Biden, although completely senile and not knowing where he was all the time, was aware enough to pull off the biggest. Right. Deep state operation by planting specific names in the Epstein files, keeping them quiet for four years just so they're released while Trump is president, to enhance and maximize the damage. And by the way, that's what people believe. I know people watching us like Denver. That was brilliant that you came up with that. No, that's what people believe. That's what a crazed, conspiratorial, breathless, moronic mind comes up with. And I just did that. So what does that say about me, Amy? But so, I mean, so that's. It says a lot. It says a lot, right so anyhow, I mean, I think with Ghislaine Maxwell, I don't know why. And then, you know, I saw news doing normal reporting today. So, you know, I was looking at this before and they're like, and Ghislaine Maxwell has asked for immunity for her testimony about the child activities that were going on at the Epstein ranch. We think that maybe that this could happen and if so, we will report on it later and see what Ghislaine Maxwell has to say about the sordid rapes that were happening under her.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah, we're like, we're back zapping ourselves to Tom brokaw back from 30 years ago.
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Denver Riggleman
You know, do you like the silky smooth normal? Why am I not an anchor? Why am I not a national?
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Amy McGrath
I mean it's not normal. It's, we're laughing, but it's, it's so, it's brutal, sad and sick. But I, I, there's a couple other things, a couple other issues or, or things that are happening this week that I wanted to get your take on. Okay, so today, did you know this, Denver, our president Donald Trump said that he solved six wars and that he was averaging solving a war per month since being in office, including wars that have lasted for 500 years. He solved them. Did you know that?
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Denver Riggleman
I didn't. Which, so I, I'm guessing, I'm guessing, Amy, is the 500 year war he's talking about in Gaza and Israel or is he talking about the long standing tribal wars in Eastern Europe?
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Amy McGrath
I don't know, but he solved them. He solved them just like he won those 20some golf champions championships. I mean he, he did it.
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Denver Riggleman
God, I wish Doug had the ball drop. Actually, did you see that, Amy, where his caddy's interesting about that?
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Amy McGrath
If you, if you guys see that, go online and take a look that. So the, so the caddy drops the ball and Donald Trump sees the ball being dropped and he walks towards it and then looks around as if trying to find the ball that he, that he just saw, he just saw being.
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Denver Riggleman
Dropped by his car. I mean, that's really sums up Donald Trump in a nutshell, right? And yeah, I mean I, I think that's, we have so many things going on where now he's saying such outlandish things that it's almost like this huge smokescreen. You know, when Steve Bannon said flood the zone with, I think he knew exactly what he was talking about. But Trump does it naturally. I mean he produces, I would say bloviating missiles on a level that a Lot of us can't imagine. And I think he's, he does it so naturally because he's deranged. And that's where we're at right now. We have a pathological guy who cheats at golf, runs women out of, ran women out of Mar A Lago, it seems, based on his own words, and had a long standing relationship with a pedophile and is considering maybe a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell, who's a serial rapist and perjurer. Yeah, so he's had a, he's had a bang up week.
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Amy McGrath
And I know we talk a lot about this stupidity of, unfortunately our current president and all of these things, but there's some real bad stuff going on that could hurt our national security. And just yesterday, the top lawyer for the National Security Agency was fired. And there's no real reason to have fired her other than these conservative activists, Laura Loomer. You know, these conspiracy theorists don't like this person and so they're, they're getting rid of it. And, and remember, you know, the, the commander and the deputy of the National Security Agency were, were fired earlier this year. Why is this important? This is our top cybersecurity law expert in the country working for us. And you know, I don't know who they're going to replace this person with, but I'm, every time I see this, it's just, it's scary to me.
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Denver Riggleman
Well, you know, Tim Hawk, who was the NSA director that was let go, you know, I'd met, and one of the most capable individuals I had ever met. I think when you're looking at the people that he's putting in positions of power and listening to. And you mentioned Laura Loomer, who was at the State Department after they let go of the 12 or 1300 employees she was there allowed to put in her two cents about the direction of the country. And Laura Loomer is the only person who did get ear leakage from 5G. You know, I mean, she's insane. So I think when you're looking at the individuals he's choosing, like RFK Jr. Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hexseth, Sean Duffy. Right. And I served with Sean on the Financial Services Committee. And obviously, you know, he's blaming Pete Buttigieg for windmill accidents. Now, I think what you're saying is people putting, put in positions of power that have the same conspiratorial, narcissistic, sociopathic, credulous traits as their leader. And it worries me that if I go back To University of Virginia in 1997, 1998 at a fantastic professor, he talked about this socialist philosopher who mentioned the little Stalin theory and that the people underneath of the leader were worse than the leader because they were continually trying to impress the leader. They were more vicious, more vile, more violent. And I think that's what you're saying is that the people that are being appointed for those that are fired, the competent and the true Americans that are being fired, these are people that are worse even than Trump because they're willing to follow such a vile human being. That means the end of our country is actually a possibility. And I, and I know people are like, oh, God, Dan, that's crazy. But what are we seeing right now? We're actually. We're seeing this flat spin. And you as a pilot, you know what that means. How do we get out of a flat spin when you have somebody who's never flown a plane flying it?
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Amy McGrath
Yeah.
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Denver Riggleman
Amy, you. You are a talented, experienced, brilliant aviator. I know a flat spin would scare you. What happens when somebody who doesn't know how to fly a plane is the pilot in a flat spin? And that's where we're right now. We're in a flat spin with people who've never flown a plane.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah. Well, for those people who are listening, what Denver. Tell. Tell people what. What is the National Security Agency anyway?
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Denver Riggleman
Sure. I would love to talk about the National Security Agency. The national security.
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Amy McGrath
It sounds important. It is important.
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Denver Riggleman
Yes. Let me do wave tops. Right. I did. So the NSA is the signal intelligence authority for the United States called sigint. They also do comment, they do eland. So Comet is, you know, communications intelligence, electronic intelligence, but they also fuse that intelligence with other types of intelligence, like human intelligence, things like that. So break, break, wave tops. Sorry, Amy. What NSA does is they collect signals right within the. Within specific spectrums. They can be hardwired or electromagnetic. They can be certain types of things right across a wide spectrum. But NSA collects signals intelligence. Intelligence is an important word that signals intelligence is provided because it's a combat service agency to war fighters around the world based on their authorities to do intelligence preparation the battlefield or targeting in the electronic spectrum. So that's what NSA does. I'm going to be very, very general, but that's what NSA does.
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Amy McGrath
And it has a lot of capabilities. And yes, you know, to have somebody, we need to have competition.
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Denver Riggleman
I don't know how far I should go.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah.
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Denver Riggleman
Yes.
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Amy McGrath
You don't need to go far. It has a ton of capability for our country. And it needs to have a leader that not only understands those capabilities, but understands that they need to be used for our country and not for political purposes or anything else. And I, you know, that's, that's the worry that I have with this current administration. Well, especially firing the long standing, competent, experienced civil servants.
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Denver Riggleman
So if you think about nsa, you know, is a big part of the FISA program, right, and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, Surveillance Act. And when you look at fisa, right, that's when we have foreign individuals doing nefarious activities in the United States. FISA allows us to bridge foreign and domestic authorities where domestic law enforcement can look at people engaging in foreign activities here. That is already a very controversial program, Amy, for a lot of people. Now imagine, and you're trying to do it with integrity or ethics, and it's already had issues. What if you have crazy people being able to utilize those huge resources for nefarious activities?
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Amy McGrath
Yeah, it's a very thin line to walk. You know, we, we have this, these capabilities. We also have as Americans, First Amendment rights, rights to privacy, that sort of thing. So it's like one of these contentious issues, folks, where how much do you want to, do you want government to be able to spy on Americans? It's, it's like this constant debate. No, of course, your first in, in your first thought is, no, of course I don't want government. However, if we have knowledge that somebody's planning a terrorist attack, somebody's coordinating with a foreign entity that's planning a terrorist attack, you know, we are going to look and we're going to you, you, as a, you as a common sense American would want to say, you know what, why don't we use our ability to, to stop that? And so that's where the rub is. And you need people in charge of that particular agency that have a loyalty to the Constitution and have a loyalty to this country and to have some ethics. And I think firing people because the far right doesn't like them is to me, a little scary.
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Denver Riggleman
It's terrible. And the people that you're hiring decide to shoot videos of them riding wild horses and talking about their Argentinian mounts, right? And some weird Yellowstone cosplaying insane, right? Nutter, narcissistic way of doing things. Look at this.
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Amy McGrath
So you have to tell people what.
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Denver Riggleman
That is because that is Kristi Noem riding her Argentinian steed during her Corey Lewandowski trip overseas.
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Amy McGrath
Our Secretary of Homeland Security folks riding horses in Argentina. And you know, using her official account to this, I guess can we play.
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Denver Riggleman
This little loop the whole show. You know, I. I just want to make up a country song to it, Right. Riding my horse over the plains I'm trying to help America Take away these illegal stains I'm on my steed it's what I need.
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Amy McGrath
Honestly, Denver, did you like to move on from your great singing? If she. If she's over there riding horses, she's not doing stupid shit stuff here, you know, so. Okay.
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Denver Riggleman
Super hot interesting stuff. Super, super interesting. All right. Well, it's actually. What is it? Super hot interesting. What is the tea again? Look, look, I've already had way too much foregrain as we're getting into this, you know, that's why I can sing so well.
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Amy McGrath
Let's get to our. Cask us anything, because that's the coolest part of this.
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Denver Riggleman
Let's do it. Yeah, I wonder. You know, I think people are sort of afraid to ask us questions because we're such geniuses. You know, we're. We're so good at what we do.
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Amy McGrath
I'm gonna pour myself another little, you.
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Denver Riggleman
Know, before we get to the questions, right. And it could be that we've done so well that people are just afraid, you know, to pop up, you know, and to. To. To cast us anything. But I was. You know, I'm sorry about the song. I just want to apologize to everybody right now that I have a lot of talent that I haven't allowed to come out of my life, and it's very suppressed.
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Amy McGrath
Well, you could go on one of those shows, America Got Got Talent or whatever that. Whatever the heck it is. America has talent. I don't even know.
- [32:40]
Denver Riggleman
Is there a show that America has no talent? Like, is there a show at the Gong Show? You know, I. I bet that was it. Hey, Doug, can we show. Here's Christine Ome again. I don't know if that's something. Can we.
- [32:54]
Amy McGrath
All right, all right, all right. To ask us a question, just leave a comment. You got to be on YouTube to be able to. To do that. So leave. Leave a bunch of comments.
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Denver Riggleman
And we're supposed to tell people, start to do.
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Amy McGrath
I'm sorry, we'll start taking a look at them here. And, you know, look, the. The other thing that. That President Trump did this week was sign an acceptance of the luxury jet that he is getting from the government of Qatar. Totally corrupt in my mind, but this is where we're at.
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Denver Riggleman
So I. I don't know if you know this about my past, but I worked for an activity that retrofitted domestic and foreign aircraft, if there were alleys, allies with chaff and flare or with other types of defensive mechanisms. So I was very fortunate to do that. So, first of all, I know the work it takes to retrofit an aircraft. It's not just like $5 million, Amy. It's hundreds of millions of dollars. Here's the other thing. I don't know if people realize that we're getting an airplane from a foreign government and everybody's like, oh, we're having a great time with UAE and Qatar. Right. And we're doing great things. That is, that's an enemy to us. And I just want to let you know that I don't think that aircraft will ever be used for anything official, but I do think Trump will use it for personal means when he's out. That's so I just want to let people know.
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Amy McGrath
It's embarrassing for our country. I think it's embarrassing.
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Denver Riggleman
What.
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Amy McGrath
We can't, we can't have our own Air Force One where the United States freaking of America, for Christ sake. Sake. You know, I mean, this is ridiculous.
- [34:50]
Denver Riggleman
It is.
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Amy McGrath
All right, let's get to our questions.
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Denver Riggleman
Yeah. Okay, so do you want to take the first one from Kaylee Gresham?
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Amy McGrath
Well, I can't actually see it, so why don't you take the.
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Denver Riggleman
I got it. It says, how afraid should we be? Oh, my goodness. Okay, back in. And I'll do really quick and I'll let you go. Amy. Back In December of 2020, my farewell speech in Congress, I warned that fantasy and del. Delusions could rip apart the fabric of society and we needed to be careful. And also warned about violence based on delusions, which January 6th happened. So I gave that speech, I think around December 10th, so about four weeks later. And I was like, oh, my God. And I always said, even as, you know, one of the. My favorite things to say is it's going to get worse before it gets worse. People are like, oh, that's pretty funny. But it has gotten worse. I think why we should be so afraid is that we have people that are incompetent in charge. It's not just, it's not just conspiracy theories. It's not just, you know, this sort of Christian nationalism bent that we see everywhere in our government or the evangelical. This evangelical fervor that Donald Trump has been ordained by God or everything he says is right, which I get from a lot of individuals. It's the fact that stupidity is terminal and the people that we have in charge are stupid. And stupid has bloomed as this new ignorant way of life. And if we have stupid people in charge, stupid things happen. There's a cascading effect of stupidity that creates such a catastrophic environment for us to live in. Because all of this stuff that took hundreds of years to build, it's not going to come down in one day. It's going to come down brick by brick by brick based on stupidity. And once that whole foundation is gone, the collapse isn't going to be slow. You're not going to see it. You're going to think, you know, it is going to be slow. But for everybody out there, they're going to think it happened right now. Because once the bricks, it's like Jenga. Stupidity creates a Jenga environment that you take out that one extra brick, you don't have any of those safeguards in place, and it comes down. And if you see somebody riding a horse when they, in Argentina, you know, with, with pictures and stuff, that's the Jenga piece that brings us down. Are people like Kristi Noem and that's how afraid we should be is that stupidity and competence is, it's terminal. It's difficult to get out of it. And I just don't see us getting out of it.
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Amy McGrath
Well, I, I'm an, I'm a little bit more optimistic and I have to be, I feel like we have to be to get through it. That and, you know, drinking lots of bourbon. But I, I feel like, look, we're gonna hurt through this time. Our country is gonna hurt because I mean, they're, they're the, what the Republicans and Donald Trump is doing is breaking government, okay? They're breaking it. And you might think, well, maybe that's what we should do. No, that's not what we should do. Reforming is always important. But breaking, throwing our standing around the world under the bus. Cut cuts to Medicaid are going to hurt people. It's literally people's lives cuts to things like female is going to hurt people. We are losing our, our power around the world when it comes to alliances. They're breaking a lot of that stuff. That is not what worries me the most. What worries me the most are things like the value of the dollar, which is based on trust. And if we don't have a government that is, is perceived to be competent, I worry about that. I worry about the value of the dollar. I worry about if we ever were to have another pandemic or God forbid, a bioweapon used against the world, really, that we don't have a competent leadership to be Able to counter that. And I really worry about people's loss of trust in our government, which is, look, I mean, Denver, you've been all around the world. I've been all around the world. We have it pretty good here in the United States. We have a lot of great things. And I mean, your. Your wait at the dmv, it might be long. Okay, I got. Might be long. But I'll tell you what. Go to some of the places that I've been to. You'll come back, and you will be like.
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Denver Riggleman
I'll take the dmv.
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Amy McGrath
I'll take it.
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Denver Riggleman
I'll do it. I know that. It's just insane, right? It's. So do you want to take the next one? You want to start with the next one with Tim Price, Our friend Tim? Yes.
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Amy McGrath
It's pretty dark stuff. So many questions. Is there a way to ensure midterms are close to far?
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Denver Riggleman
Far? Fair.
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Amy McGrath
Fair.
- [39:55]
Denver Riggleman
Just a little typo. Tim just had a little typo in there.
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Amy McGrath
Does that mean.
- [39:59]
Denver Riggleman
Well, it's Southern, right? I think Tim's right. It's like, is it close to far?
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Amy McGrath
I mean, look, here's how we ensure it. We work our asses off. We support candidates around the country. Look, we have to get to the point where we invest in the government we think we should get for free. Okay? We come up with this attitude like, well, I think we should just have ethical leaders, and I think we should just have people that vote in the right way. No, we have to invest. You have to get behind candidates. You have to get behind races. And I feel like that's an important way to do it right now. That's what we should be doing.
- [40:48]
Denver Riggleman
Yeah. The best way to make midterms not fair is to disenfranchise people beforehand. You don't have a lot of this ridiculous sort of insertion of electrons right from space satellites. It really is to make sure midterms are fair. You got to fight to ensure that you don't have conventions, which conventions, I think are the worst thing in the world for selecting candidates, if you're looking at the primary level. But for the main level, it's to make sure that people can vote that are allowed to vote and legal to vote. And I think, you know, a lot of people trying to stop. So I do believe, Amy, and with Tim's question, I do believe that the Democrats are going to take back the House in the midterms. I do think that even with all the gerrymandering going on right now, I think. I think Gavin Newsom was right. If Texas is going to gerrymander all Democrats out in Florida, California needs to gerrymander all Republicans out. This is war. Now, they've come out and said that's what they're going to do. So I think, I mean, I'd love to get your opinion on that. I'm not trying to belabor this, but it seems to me that the Democrats need to get pretty mean and use some of those same tactics if they're going to be able to keep up with the way that Republicans have learned to disenfranchise voters before the election even starts.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah, I think the Democrats need to be tougher. I think, you know, we tend to have this, this idea that, well, we'll just, we'll just play it fair and things will, things will come out, you know, perfect for us. The Republicans don't play fair. You know, they, they're, they're using tactics that are really, really bad. I'm not suggesting that, that, that Democrats do anything illegal, but I do think Democrats need to get tougher.
- [42:31]
Denver Riggleman
I still think you need to drag an ax to a bar fight. I think. I think you do need to get tougher. I say don't be illegal. I mean, that's not, that's not the American way, I guess, unless you're, you know, maga. But I think that you definitely have to be tough and you got to meet whatever they say with absolute. I mean, no kidding. Let's rock and roll, Right? The, the fight doesn't start to get somebody on the floor, Amy. And I think the Democrats need to have that. Yeah. Attitude.
- [42:57]
Amy McGrath
The messaging cannot be all positive. We have, we have to go in there and show people and remind people.
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Denver Riggleman
Epstein should be the biggest thing in the midterms. Biggest thing. So I guess this is for you, Amy.
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Amy McGrath
Okay, so this is from Kimberly. Here's my question for Amy. Is there anything I can do to convince you to run for office again? You know, I never say never. And this is probably a question Denver, you should answer, too. I mean, we've had a whole show on this. We had a whole show on what it's like to run for office. Both you and I talking about this, the goods and the bads. And one of the things that came out of that show, which I thought was really positive, was this plea to others to step into the arena if they can, if it's right for them and their family at the time. And I think that that's true for me, and I think that is true for you, too. If it's the right time and it's okay for your, for your family and it's the right thing to do for the country. Then, then that's, that's something that you should look at and something I will look at. But, you know, I don't, I don't know that right at the moment.
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Denver Riggleman
So, you know, both of us have been asked to run many times and, you know, since our fun times that we've had. And I want to tell this to Kimberly about Amy. Amy's in almost impossible situation where she's had to run again. I am, too. And a lot of that has to do. We talk about gerrymandering. We talk about all the bad things that happen with redistricting and the fact that the majority rules. And I think with Amy, Kimberly, is that she's in a not only congressional district, but a state that leans heavily to the right. I'm in a purple state even in. So, Amy, what is your district? R+ what. What do you.
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Amy McGrath
I don't even know what my current district is.
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Denver Riggleman
What's your PBI is a lot. R +15. R +20. Impossible for a Democrat to. I mean, even if that individual right has an incredible background of record, the far right candidate's going to win by 6 to 7. Even if you have a big flip in an R plus 15. And Amy's probably there and in the statewide. Oh, my God. God help Amy. She's running in a statewide. If she's running as a demographic in Kentucky, as we've seen, no matter how good her message is. And by the way, she gave Andy Barr quite a ride, right? Amy. In a district that was our heavy right, Amy came within, what, four or five points of beating Andy Bar, which means her message was solid. And people saw that two and a half. And so people saw that Amy's message was strong enough to be within two and a half of our heavy district. That's insane. Remember. Do you remember?
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Amy McGrath
You know, I do think that, look, the political wins can blow lots of different ways. And you look at every race and every, every race deserves good candidates. It just has to be right for your family and it has to be right for, for you to, to want to jump in at the time. And here's the other thing I, I do worry about. Well, it's. Denver said it, it's, it's, it's a tough time. It's not, not impossible. But, you know, we'll certainly look, look at everything.
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Denver Riggleman
You know, I'm there for you.
- [46:32]
Donald Trump
Stop.
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Denver Riggleman
I'll tell Kim. I know, he was like, damn, I need to stop now. Well, I know we probably have some people. Amy, do you have anybody on your list that we need to salute tonight?
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Amy McGrath
Well, there's a couple things that are, that are really cool. I always want to end on a. On a good note. The first one is Roy Cooper, right?
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Denver Riggleman
Roy Cooper, yeah.
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Amy McGrath
He is the popular governor of North Carolina, and he jumped into that Senate race in North Carolina, and I think that's awesome. The other candidates, Democratic candidates in that race, at least one of them have already sort of dropped off and endorsed him, which is, you know, they're kind of already coalescing now, and I just think that's, that's, that's great, you know, so cheers to him for.
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Denver Riggleman
Cheers. Cheers.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah.
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Denver Riggleman
I don't know.
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Amy McGrath
Yeah.
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Denver Riggleman
Like I said, I'm in a mood. I. I have nobody to cheers this week and I know it was like, God, Dan, there has to be some good things that have happened. And I'm thinking about over the week, I'm like, what would I Cheers. And, you know, I want to cheers. You'd be like, you're such a dork. I want to cheers. The Ukrainian drone program. Hey, you know, and, and so.
- [47:58]
Amy McGrath
All right.
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Denver Riggleman
And I know that's probably not on our thing. I was sitting here like, so today I've been talking a lot of drone work with my AI company, and right now it looks like last year, I was thinking it was Jack Keane was talking about the number of drones that Ukraine made last year. I think it was 4 million. They had proper funding. They could do 10 million. Dr. Drone warfare is the future. But I'm going back for a third time, Amy, and still got to talk to you about that. So going back for a third time. I'm not going to tell people when, but I'll tell you when I get back, Amy, you'll know because you're privy to secret operations, but. So it's not. It's humanitarian. But the Ukrainian drone program has been incredible, and what they've done to stymie Russian forces have been incredible. So here's to the Ukrainian drove program and the research and development program and taking it into the next millennia.
- [48:50]
Amy McGrath
Cheers.
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Denver Riggleman
Cheers. Amy, you got anything else?
- [48:56]
Amy McGrath
You know, I just want to make a plug for Unfiltered on Thursday because it's going to be a really cool, really cool show. We're going to be talking about healthcare costs going up. We're going to be talking about FEMA and everything that's going on with that, we're going to be talking about, oh, you like this Denver Pete Hegseth saying that our military and those officers in our military can't go to any think tanks or do any public events or talk to any, you know, anybody who thinks, I guess, my God, it sounds like my church. We're gonna talk about that and why it, why it's so bad. You know, why, why that's, that's kind of like stupid. And then we'll, we'll talk about things like the tariff deal, that deal, I put that in, in air quotes there with the European Union. As I, as I watch leaders trying to defend this, this tariff deal, it's just like really funny to me. And so we'll talk about that.
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Denver Riggleman
Do you have a Planned Parenthood piece also?
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Amy McGrath
I do. That's another. Cheers. I could, I could wait for Thursday, but we could talk about it today. The. So as you know, the Republicans in their big, bold betrayal bill that they passed had a line in there that basically cut all Medicaid funding from Planned Parenthood at all. So not just targeting one specific thing that they don't like. Right. So the one specific thing that they don't like, the Planned Parenthood does provide in certain locations is abortions, right?
- [50:42]
Denver Riggleman
Yes.
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Amy McGrath
Well, the Republicans hate Planned Parenthood for that. So they basically want all funding to be cut to all clinics for everything that Planned Parenthood does. So there is a judge up in the Northeast, lower courts said that was unconstitutional, that you couldn't target a parent company punishing the entire, you know, parent.
- [51:11]
Denver Riggleman
I can't wait to hear this story.
- [51:12]
Amy McGrath
Or, you know, targeting for something that you don't like, that one specific thing that you don't like. So, and I'd like to remind people I, I cheers this judge because Planned Parenthood was is standing to lose 200 clinics around the country.
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Denver Riggleman
And this would be devastating.
- [51:30]
Amy McGrath
This is a place that, that helps women, helps women with birth control, with sexually transmitted disease testing, you know, treatment for these things, cancer screenings and a whole host of other medical care that you may or may not get through your insurance Planned Parenthood provides to our fellow Americans. And so cheers to the judge who.
- [52:02]
Denver Riggleman
Said cheers to the judge. And if we do talk about that, I got a pretty incredible personal story about that I think you'd be interested in.
- [52:09]
Amy McGrath
Well, we'll talk about that on Thursday then.
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Denver Riggleman
You got it. This is incredible show. Thank you, Amy, again for another live. And if everybody makes sure that they subscribe to our YouTube channel, they download their favorite podcast and follow us on our network social media channels, you'll find out that this is the best show ever done in the history of shows and podcasts. Truth in the Barrel is the best, so I hope everybody tunes in.
- [52:38]
Amy McGrath
Yeah, Denver's kidding. It's not like Donald Trump talking about his golf wins or his six wars that he solved. We are a very good show. I will say that. I'm not. I'm not sure about the best. I'm not.
- [52:52]
Denver Riggleman
Amy. Amy. We're the best. You need. We're taking an ax to a bar fight.
- [52:57]
Amy McGrath
Okay.
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Denver Riggleman
We're the best ever, ma'. Am. Cheers to you. We're the best ever.
- [53:03]
Amy McGrath
Thanks everyone for listening. We'll see you next time.
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