C (3:17)

I think that he doesn't think, I think, I never thought there'd be a war on Tylenol. And I'm wondering if they're going to take away the warning stickers on cigarette packs now, because I'm to the point with hhs and how ludicrous this is where snake oil salesman country. I think at this point it'd be very difficult for me to believe anything that they say. But the fact that he would somehow, after decades of scientific fact finding, would say that to tough it out to women. To tough it out to women during pregnant women. Yeah, this guy can't walk up the stairs to Air Force One. You know, I, I'm, I, I don't know what to say.

B (3:59)

I think the first thing that we do have to say right off the bat is none of these warnings are claims by Donald Trump, by RFK Jr. These recommendations that they're pushing now, none of them are supported or based on science.

C (4:16)

None.

B (4:16)

There's been no study out there that shows that acetaminophen, we call it Tylenol, causes autism. In fact, doctors say Tylenol is like one of the safest drugs to take. I, I just thought it's so ludicrous and we laugh. But I feel like we do have to talk about it because they have a bully pulpit with being, you know, unfortunately in charge of our federal government, which a lot of people listen to. So I thought today, Denver, it would be really important to bring in somebody to talk with us about this. A lifelong pediatrician, medical doctor for over 50 years, friend of the podcast, and my awesome mom, Dr. Mary Ann McGrath.

C (5:02)

Oh, my gosh, what a brain.

B (5:04)

Bring Dr. McGrath on. Mom, how are you?

E (5:07)

Wow, what an introduction.

C (5:08)

Dr.

E (5:10)

Woo.

B (5:11)

50 some years.

E (5:13)

Well, you know, first of all, you should be pleased to know that within 24 hours of these outrageous lies perpetrated by the leaders of our country lies our medical society, my medical society and those throughout the country received a bulletin from our Academy of Medicine that reminded us of the truth and what's really recommended and why, and reminded us of how outrageous and untrue the false statements that have been made really Are, you know, if there was ever a question that doctors needed to be reminded of the truth. And I suppose, like all humans, we do on occasion, we've been reminded. Yeah.

B (6:16)

What was your reaction when you heard this? You know, based off of 50 years experience as an, like, I don't know, actual doctor?

E (6:24)

Well, I'm kind of. Yeah, natural doctor.

B (6:28)

You don't just play one on TV?

E (6:32)

No, I don't. I don't play one on TV.

B (6:36)

I.

E (6:37)

There's really. This is so outrageous that there are no words. You know, my first reaction was to laugh out loud. But following very close behind that, I wanted to cry because I'm listening to these lies that are being thrown out as truth to the American people who may or may not have the training or the cognitive skills or a background sufficient to sort out the truth. You know, one of the things that I've always been. Try to be aware of in my children's education, yours, Aim and Matt's and Janie's, and certainly in my grandkids, has been whether or not you've been taught critical thinking. And, you know, even when I was in high school and college, there was such a course as logic, you know, and, you know, really, they. They back, babe, way back in those days, you know, more than 50 years ago, that was something that was studied. It's been studied progressively, and it has evolved, by the way, progressively, you know, from the 1600s on. So putting out statements that have no bearing in truth or logic is just unconscionable.

B (8:18)

What does the current research actually show regarding causes of autism? Because you hear this a lot. You hear this, oh, autism has increased. The president said it's up 400%. What is the truth here?

E (8:34)

Well, the truth is that autism, which is a neurological disorder that is generally diagnosed within the first year of life, now was not years ago and manifests itself in many different ways, okay? So many different ways that it's very difficult to cone down a definition of autism that lends itself to good scientific study. Therein lies the problem. The definition, what we recognize as this neurologic disorder has changed over the past couple centuries even, and certainly changed and evolved over the past many decades. As that happens, the criteria to fall into this definition of autism has also dramatically changed. So much so that we don't really refer to autism so much anymore as a thing. A diagnosis like polio, for instance, which is associated with a specific organism and it has specific manifestations in the body. Okay? But we refer to the autism spectrum, and that tells us something about the length of manifestation or symptoms that can present in the conglomerate of this neurologic disorder. Because we've changed the definition and because we have greater public awareness, as we've learned more about this kind of illness, if you will, we recognize its presence earlier and over a greater spectrum of symptoms. Yeah, just that alone has added innumerable people to the numbers. And it does not mean that the disorder is any more prominent today than it was 100 years ago, but we certainly recognize it more often now.

B (11:14)

Yeah, there's this thing I've been reading about publication bias, you know, which is this idea that there are studies, they do studies on all kinds of things. And so they've been doing studies for, like, decades of whether there is a link between things like Tylenol or really anything else, autism or autistic symptoms, shall we say, now. And if there's no link, then those studies are never published. And so, you know, the. It's like when there is a study out there that. That. That might show some association, but not causation, which is another thing that people get confused sometimes. People, you know, run with it. Even though there's like, 99. There's one study out there that has some association, then there's 99 that show none. You know, do you. Do you see that? I mean, do you see that happening?

E (12:23)

Well, there's a. There are a lot of kind of misgivings in that collection of statements. And I have to say that, first of all, is there such a thing as publication bias? Probably. But I honestly, personally do not believe that that's pertinent in the autism question. And I say that because there are too many other obvious things that have contributed to what is being called by the administration, a dramatic increase in the incidence.

B (13:04)

Right.

E (13:05)

And prevalence, two different things of autism today. And I think it has to do largely with the things that I mentioned before. Now, you know, also, you don't hide studies that you do, okay. In science, you start off with the concept of a hypothesis, something that you think might be. And so you go to explore the possibility that there might be a connection, but you construct that study such that you try and make as many things alike in the individuals that you're studying as possible. That's called controlling the variables. Okay? And that's a very important thing to be able to do. One of the important things that characterizes good studies, another important thing, is that you. If you're looking at something that has broad implications and incidents across the world, for instance, then one of the things that you would look at is the number of people that you're including in your study. You're not going to try to learn much of a connection of something if you have 10 people that you're studying.

B (14:46)

Right.

E (14:47)

And if you start those 10 people with already having the kind of illness that you want because to backtrack and determine, for example, what this, what was the case for this mother of this 25 year old during pregnancy that's likely not to be able to acquire the data that you need to make any kind of an association. Yeah, it's like the old, the old thing, you know, the Fountain Square is full of Democrats. Amy is at Fountain Square, therefore Amy is a Democrat.

C (15:35)

No.

E (15:38)

You know, it's just, it's like.

B (15:40)

Basic grade school level, you know, how do you run an actual experiment? But I wanted to ask, and I want to bring Denver in on this because there's politics behind this. Right. And supposedly the administration and RFK Jr have been saying that they are going to tell America the causes of autism. That somehow, and I'm interested in your opinion, Denver, when you were in Congress, somehow previous administrations, we're like covering up this great conspiracy of the causes of autism and we are going to let the American people know. And so they, they get into office, they find out that, wow, there's nothing there there that, you know, that causes are still being studied. And so they just have to make something up. Right. Is that, is that how you see this?

C (16:35)

Then of course it's made up. Yeah, they had to because he said he was going to have answers in September. Right, Amy? So that's what he did. And when you listen to real doctors like we have on this show today, and you look at facts and data and how you do scientific inquiry, the other thing too, there's another layer to this. Not only did he have to come out with something stupid, I mean, this is a guy who stuck his fingers in bears and said that ears leak with 5G. Just a complete quack, an awful human being. Right. Stupidity is terminal. But there's also a financial investment here of Luco Vorinz. So if you're talking about, what they're talking about is to take leucovorin or folinic acid. Leucovorin. Right. The biggest purveyor of leucovorin, one of them is eye health, I believe, which is a Dr. Oz thing. So what I'm looking at right now is this is also a money trip for snake oil salesmen, homeopathy, anti vaxxers, people who don't believe in scientific method People who eat dandelion heads right. When they have cancer. And I think that's what, that's what this is, too. I think this is actually a money grab by funneling people's monies to quack treatments and by demonizing a company that shouldn't have been demonized. I just think they had to make it up. And I think this Make America Healthy Again is really, you know, keep America in the dark ages. I don't know what that. That would be Keda. So, I mean, I think that's the best I got, Amy, because it's so ludicrous. But 77 million people voted for Trump. And I think, Amy, your point was well taken. It's dead on. And Dr. McGrath, you too, right? Is that both of these are true. They're wrong. This is a financial incentive thing, as far as I can see. But also, tens of millions of people will believe it. Amy, I'm with you at the beginning where you said you laugh about it. But, but we know they're going to believe there's going to be people who are pregnant who don't take Tylenol, put themselves at risk, and they're taking drugs like folinic acid or taking something else ridiculous. Right? The root of the cherry tree instead of doing what's right for them and their body because they're being run by idiots.

B (18:49)

Well, and before we say goodbye and thank you to Dr. McGrath here for all of our listeners, I want them to hear it from somebody who, like I said, was an actual, is an actual doctor, 50 years. Is Tylenol okay to take if you're pregnant?

E (19:12)

Unquestionably. Now, is there any drug, any substance, anything, any food that you can imbibe that is 100% safe for every human being? Absolutely not. That does not exist. So no medicine is 100% safe. Okay. No food is 100% safe. You're gonna have the odd person who's got an apergy. Okay? I mean, but believe me, Tylenol, among the medicines that we currently prescribe in its generic form, so made by other manufacturers, is one of the most widely studied and widely used. We talked before about the importance of having large numbers of people involved in being able to say this has been shown to have a wide margin of safety. It is, you know, we don't take medicine unless we have symptoms. And I'm sorry, females are. They may tough it out more often, but they're no better set to tough it out than our men. And it's absolutely misogynistic for the President to Say if you can't suck it up, then maybe, maybe take one Tylenol. Well, if an adult takes one Tylenol only get half the effect because an adult doses do, you know, I mean Tylenol is among the safest medicines that's commonly used.

B (21:05)

And I just so appreciate you coming on, mom. And for everybody listening, that's it. Talk to your doctor. We've got a doctor here on the show to tell you. Talk to your doctor. Okay. Because what the administration is saying here is bonkers.

C (21:22)

America's mom.

B (21:23)

Thank you, Dr. McGrath, for coming on this show.

E (21:27)

You're welcome, Amy McGrath.

B (21:29)

Love you, Mom.

E (21:30)

You're welcome, Deborah Riggleman.

C (21:32)

Thank you, ma'. Am.

E (21:34)

I enjoy your show.

B (21:39)

All right, so Denver, I have two last points before we move on.

C (21:43)

Okay.

B (21:44)

Don't you just love how pregnant women are always blamed for everything? I mean I just sort of feel that that whole tough it out my mom was talking about that. But here's the kicker, here's the last point we'll make. And Medicaid is a, does this home community based service. They have these life saving programs that help autistic people live independently. They provide, you know, transportation, shopping, cooking, daily routines to avoid institutionalization of these Americans. And, and guess what? Republicans in this bill that they just passed with this president is cutting those programs. And I just think it's, it needs to be said kind of over and over again because we talk about these crazy bonkers things that the administration does and that seems to soak up a lot of the, of the airwaves, shall we say. But the real impacts of the policies that they have pushed through are real and they're hurting the very people who are on the autistic spectrum.

C (22:54)

Why we've become Quackistan, right? I mean we're just insane. And to have something like RFK Jr leading this just shows not just that we're unserious, were dangerously effed up as a country to have somebody as stupid as RFK Jr somebody as deliberately obtuse, somebody with very bad designs and pushing monies towards natural cures that are ridiculous. And I think that's where we're at right now is this is just a money flip because stupid people's money spends just like smart people.

B (23:31)

Well, I just think we still have to keep talking about the truth here, still have to bringing on experts and things like that and keep getting the word out. But I want to go from one topic that is bonkers to another topic that is bonkers and that was Donald Trump's president Trump's UN Speech, and to me, the bottom line for it was bonkers, as I said, but also the weakening of American leadership, world leadership on full display at the United Nations. I mean, I just.25% of his speech was attacking efforts to address climate change. Apparently now renewable energy is the biggest threat to our country.

C (24:19)

That's because oil companies. I mean, everything he says is profit motive and grift. And when I heard that speech, I have to tell you, Amy, you know where it is, right? Everything goes to the money, and I'm hoping people are following the money. But everything that he says is about his donors. It's about oligarchs in this country. Now, when I said Quackistan, I mean it. We're quacks, right? We, we have tens of millions of people that are quacks, but our entire administration is full of lap dogs and sycophants. And I think. And also people that are deliberately, again, lying to the American public, whether it's tariffs, whether it's the UN and climate change, whether it's saying that he knows everything again and calling other countries pretty much pathetic. I've never. It's hard not to think that, yeah.

B (25:05)

He said to all of these other countries, you're going to hell.

C (25:08)

You're going to hell. I mean, that's what he said. I think people are really scared to use the language that he really is, whether you're talking about the Epstein files, whether he's adjudicated sexual felon, all the things that he is. And I think that UN Speech, I think the world leaders now understand. I don't think we've weakened his leadership. I think we're gone. I don't know how we get it back, because if it's a J.D. vance presidency or 28, or Trump runs again in 28, which I think is a possibility based on how they're setting up their constitutional arguments for the Supreme Court. I think we're in really bad shape in the world, Amy. And the speech, I think, was just indicative of the sickness and disease that we have in this country.

B (25:48)

Well, first of all, there was a lot of insults in the speech. The President insulted the Muslim mayor of London. He said that Muslim leaders in the west are planning to institute Sharia law. I mean, there's no.

C (26:02)

That's 2008 conspiracy theories are bringing back the Obama conspiracy theories, Amy.

B (26:07)

He badly wants the Nobel Peace Prize for what he thinks are negotiating all of these ends to wars, which, you know, he really didn't do. He, of course, declined to pay for more Aid to Ukraine to fight off the Russian invasion. And the lies are just, they're so consistent now. I mean, I'm not even going to go through them. But, but the one that struck me was when he talks to, I guess the world and to the American public saying, quote, our bills are coming way down, gasoline prices are way down. Drill, baby, drill. And you know, electricity prices have gone up under this administration. They've gone up. Gasoline prices are the exact same from last year. They haven't gone down. And I mean, just. That's in addition to all of the other lies about securing trillions of dollars of commitments and money from other countries through these tariffs. It's just a bunch of bs.

C (27:09)

And people need to look at the economic data that came out the day of the Tylenol announcement, which was completely obliterated by the Tylenol announcement. There's companies coming out and also nonprofit services that job, jobs are to a point that our unemployment could be as high as 5%, which you're talking about a massive increase in joblessness across the country. You're talking about inflation starting to balloon. The tariffs are costing the. I think it was just over $2,000 per American family. Now more. All this stuff is starting to. Listen, you can't stop crazy will dismember every institution. Ignorance, crazy white nationalism, Sharia law, conspiracy theories. Before you know it, they're going to be talking about the Muslim Brotherhood again there. Listen, if you're looking at what's happening right now with the trad right, what I call them, the alt right, it's as bad as fundamental Islamicism. So we, we have this sort of, this, this Christo fascist, you know, we have to be a Christian nation at the same time trying to, to, to roll off into Sharia law conspiracy theories. It's all lies. It's made up. It's, it's fever dream, direct line to the supernatural talking to sky fairy stuff. And I think that's the issue that we have right now is that we have no baseline of fact. We have no baseline of what real Christianity actually means to people. This isn't real Christian. This is a bizarre thing. And now they have to spin off these conspiracy theories and lies and this sort of, this smoke string, this opaque thing where we can't see what's going on behind the door. We're the most transparent. But we're going to stop any type of journalism as from talking about anything unless the Pentagon approves it. You know what I mean? Amy? They're saying one thing, but it's what they're doing, that's absolutely about the worst of what humans can be. And our country seems to be aspiring to that awfulness right now.

B (29:07)

Well, we're running away from the world. We are weakening this administration and the Republicans enabling right now the weakening of America on the world stage. And, and from. A lot of people may not like the UN A lot of people don't think.

C (29:26)

Not a huge fan. I think it's a.

B (29:28)

That corrupt institution. Collective organizations matter and all that. But, you know, we built the UN it's in New York City that came out of World War II and the greatest generation that fought to try to create a world that was more peaceful. And you know what? We haven't had major nuclear war. Okay, so it has. It's done.

C (29:50)

That's nice.

B (29:51)

Okay. But here's the thing. The White House is cutting off funding for the UN because they don't like the UN and here's the problem that I have. Power vacuums. They don't stay empty. Who's going to go in? Who's going to roll right in and start funding? Who do you think? Denver?

C (30:14)

I think it might be some big countries that we don't like, like China's and the Russias.

B (30:20)

China's gonna take advantage of this immediately, and they already are. They're coming in. They're now going to fund these organizations. Trump withdrew from the World Health Organization. Guess who rolled right in there. China, with $500 million in funding. It wins them goodwill. It wins them headlines around the world. In June, China won a bid to host a crucial conference next year, Denver called the International Telecommunication Union Conference. And. Or it's actually in 2027. How big is that? The International Telecommunication Union, like that, sets policy for satellite communication and Internet cables. How big is that? How important is that?

C (31:09)

It's. It means that China becomes the leader as far as how to manipulate what comms look like. And people forget about Huawei. You know, people think that AT&T is big, you know, Amy, or Verizon. They forget that China has some of the biggest telecom companies in the world and they are way ahead on technology. And I think that's what we don't understand is the power of communications. The power of owning bandwidth, is the power to really manipulate the entire global system.

B (31:43)

And China is going to be setting the rules for the world. The world is going to be shaped by China, thanks to weak, weak Republicans and a weak administration led by a president who really has no plan and just thrives on chaos. That's what's happening Right now.

C (32:06)

Absolutely.

B (32:07)

Denver, what is up with this $50,000 in cash bribe to Tom? For those of you listening, Tom Homan is the administration's border czar. And apparently Tom Homan doesn't deny taking this cash. What's the deal here?

C (32:29)

You know, September of 2024. So if he would, here's the issue. There's this fine line when you're a consultant. And you know what I said on the interview with MSNBC the other day, Amy? I said, well, you know, $50,000, I mean, Meta promised 600 billion. Right? They already paid off during their inauguration fees. Also right. When they gave her his inauguration fund for Trump. They've already paid off. They're doing it in the wide open. $50,000. I mean, I think Tom Homan gets fired by the Trump administration because they think he's not a big enough criminal. Why are you. Only you could have had $500,000, you dumbass. Right? What are you doing? We're real criminals in this administration.

B (33:10)

Before he came onto the administration, this is supposedly happened. He was recorded by the FBI, recorded with a tape recorder, taking this cash from undercover FBI agents posing as businessmen. Right?

C (33:26)

Here's where he crossed the line. And that's why they don't want to release the recording. You can take money as a consultant. That's how you actually charge on some type of contract. Lobbying is this way. It's really legal theft, right? It's rent seeking. It's all the things that you do to lobby. Because our government has run on money and it's corrupt, but it's legal. The thing that he crossed the line, Amy, where it gets scary is he goes, when I am in the Trump administration, I'll run contracts to you. That's illegal. That's bribery. So my guess is he said that specifically with the FBI is like, whoa, wait a second, that's illegal as hell. And I don't think, you know, and he's going, I'm going to sue msnbc. He don't want to do discovery. He will not. And if they do sue, he'll go right up to the point of discovery, and then they'll withdraw. It'll be in the news, and the news will not, never, ever report that he actually had to withdraw. They'll only report that he's suing because they want access and they're pieces of crap. So I think that's what you have right now, is that what happened? He crossed the line as a consultant by saying when he's in government that he would actually provide contracts I also think he's small time. Right. When you look at the big time criminals in the Trump administration, I think they're looking at Homan as sort of this small time guy. Right. Maybe he wanted to buy a new Honda fit. Right. Or he needed a new Peloton bike. Right. I mean, that's not big time. So I think really he's an unserious criminal and he's an unserious administrator. So I think that, I think eventually he goes away.

B (34:55)

Well, a couple of things. The case was closed once Trump got into office. Right. And Homan became part of DHS and part of the administration. And you know, he went on TV and basically didn't deny that he. Well, he avoided the question.

C (35:12)

I did not think criminal. Did you take the $50,000? I did nothing criminal. No, no, no, that wasn't the question.

B (35:19)

Yeah. And there's, there's a real concern here. And I actually think that the American people deserve to hear these tapes. Why? Because he is in the administration and because he is responsible. That remember the Republicans just passed this bill that gave billions of dollars to, quote, secure the border. And a lot of that money goes to private contractors in which this guy. Now there's this perception that he is going to be, you know, handing them, selling the contracts for his own personal profit. Now I'm just saying there's a perception out there based on this reporting. So in my mind, I would think this should be something that the American people should know about and see those tapes and listen to those tapes, because this is our government here.

C (36:10)

Yeah. I think the home and tapes are buried next to the Epstein files. I really do. I don't. I think that's what we're saying.

B (36:17)

It just smells bad. It smells.

C (36:20)

Release the Hohman tapes.

B (36:22)

There you go. I mean, I'd rather see the Epstein tapes first, but yeah, absolutely.

C (36:28)

Release the Hoven tapes. I mean, what a, what a putts this guy is.

B (36:32)

Now it's time. This is the best, the best part of our show. Okay. And it's the whiskey minute, and we haven't had one in a while, Denver. But I have something special today. I want. I wanted to ask you about it. This, My husband got this for me. It is Woodford Reserve, double oat, double oak, just what it looks like, double oak. And it says it's twice barreled. So as I open it and pour here, I wanted to ask you what, what the heck does that mean?

C (37:02)

Means they put some more staves in it. I mean, it's, it's sort of a Scam, Right? Really? It just means. Yeah, it's double oak. Means they just added more fresh staves or they. They aged it for a while. It's like maker's mark 46, right, so. Or they, you know, they might transfer it to another barrel where it's double oak, but really, they just stick more staves in there and then say it's double oaked. And, I mean, whatever.

B (37:27)

Well, I.

C (37:28)

It's good, though. I mean, smells. Not saying it's bad. It smells like saying it's bad at all. I'm sitting here, so I did bring whiskey, but I forgot my glass, so.

B (37:37)

Oh, no. You know, you might have to drink straight. Yeah, there you go.

D (37:41)

Yeah.

B (37:42)

Well, I like this. It's very strong. It's darker.

C (37:46)

That's gonna be played. If I ever run for office again, this is the picture they're gonna have have, you know, it's gonna be like this. It's gonna be like, you know.

B (37:55)

Yeah. Well, drinking out of the bottle, I. I like it. It's. It's very strong.

C (37:59)

Delicious.

B (38:00)

Oh, we have it wanting the stronger, great, darker, richer, honey spices. It's.

C (38:05)

Oh, it's a pretty good one. We have woodward for double oak, and we have our name on the actual bottle when we went to.

B (38:11)

Oh, I don't. That. I don't have. That. I don't have my name.

C (38:14)

I'm pretty cool, Amy. You know, I'm. I'm pretty.

B (38:17)

Know somebody.

C (38:18)

I. I, you know. Yeah, I. I think we paid 30. I think I knew the guy I had to pay, you know. All right. Crazy. It's just been. It's. I don't even know about this. This show today, right? The fact that, that we. We have to talk about Tylenol as a cause of autism, which is ridiculous. Trump's ridiculous speech at the UN Tom Homan, who's going after every single person with masked individuals, right? Taking $50,000 from the FBI, promising jobs, knowing that he's actually going to even make more money on the flip. Amy. Because it's really about the flip, right? He gets those jobs, and he gets a big job when he comes out. So it's all just a corruption and grift and lies and really the worst government that we've had in our history. And I will say that we are maybe in the worst time in our history.

B (39:15)

A lot of people voted for this administration to tackle corruption, and I think what we're seeing is that it's just. It's just. It's on steroids now.

C (39:28)

They don't even Hide it. Trump crypto.

B (39:31)

It's very sad, but I want to get into quick shots because there are some other things that I really want your take on.

C (39:36)

All right, I'm ready.

B (39:37)

So this past week the US Department of Agriculture came out and said they're no longer doing the food security report and so wanted to kind of get your take on that. And here's why food security is important. These are tells us the amount of households that are struggling to put food on the table. And just so you know, in Virginia, I looked this up. Virginia, it's 1 in 9 Virginians, it's insane. So 14 or 11%. And then in Kentucky, it's about 1 in 8 Kentuckians that, that are food insecure. So why would you stop this report here?

C (40:19)

Well, I think part of it is they don't want any reporting on the failure of their government. Right. The failure of their policies. The other thing too, they have to keep this sort of this doge type of thing of cutting government out. And I think so you're getting this sort of this combination where any data, any facts based data is an enemy to a non transparent and corrupt government. So if you can take away real facts about how policies are affecting everyday Americans, you can lie and gaslight as much as you can. So every time you see another data based activity taken away in a nonpartisan way, that's to cover up the failed policies of this administration and to gaslight and lie to Americans.

B (41:00)

Yeah, I totally agree. Here's how I see this. Republicans push this big beautiful betrayal bill, whatever you want to call it, into law that cuts food, license cuts food stamps, cuts snaps for needy Americans, for kids helping, that helps millions of Americans. They cut the benefits and then they stop collecting the data that shows how many families in America are struggling to put food on the table as a direct result of cutting the benefits. That's how this works.

C (41:35)

It's so evident to everyone that actually has working synapses in their brain.

B (41:43)

So also this week, the Department of Defense will now force reporters to take a pledge not to gather or use any information that had not been formally authorized for release by the Department of War, whatever you want to call it, or they will risk losing their credential to cover the military. So they'll basically be kicked out. All right? They won't be able to to cover the military on any base, anywhere or the Pentagon. They have to sign a form agreeing to these new rules. Wtf?

C (42:19)

Well, it's almost like our press has become Pravda and our Congress has become The Duma.

B (42:24)

Well, that's what Don Bacon said of Nebraska. He's a. He's a former brigadier general in the Air Force. He wrote on Air Force. Yeah, I'm going to read this. He wrote on social media. This is so dumb that I have a hard time believing it's true. We don't want a bunch of Pravda newspapers, only to the government's official position.

C (42:43)

He beat me to the punch. I got to call Don. God, I thought I was being like the man right there.

B (42:49)

Here's the thing, folks. Imagine the Afghanistan pullout, okay? And you remember in the Afghanistan pull out the chaos and the reporting that was going on. Imagine if we didn't. If. If the Department of Defense then were to have told reporters, we're only going to let you report on what we tell you to report on. So how about that? Remember that drone strike after. Afterwards that, you know, the Department of Defense said, hey, we. We got the guys that. That blew up the. The Abbey Gate. And then we come to find out a week later, they didn't get the guys. They got some. Some poor, you know, Apple seller support Random. And so imagine if the Pentagon were to then say, oh, no, no, no, we're not going to have any reporting or any reporters that don't, you know, say the Kool Aid stuff that we want them to say.

C (43:52)

Reporters will go along with it, too. Amy.

B (43:54)

We have a history in America of battlefield reporting, Vietnam, the Pentagon Papers, and now we have a Department of War, Department of Defense that is, like, started out kicking the press out of the Pentagon. They would insert groups like Breitbart in there and kick out the ap, told.

C (44:17)

The press what we were doing on signal.

B (44:20)

Yeah. I mean, you have a Department of Defense leader in the Secretary of Defense who put operational details. The most classified of all things classified. Folks, the most classified of all things classified are actually operational details of something that is going to happen or is happening. He put on a text chain.

C (44:45)

I imagine people listening to us right now, Amy, in their vehicles, like on their podcast, like slamming their fists against the dashboard or shaking their steering wheel. Because what we've talked about today is so insane. It's so stupid. It's so ignorant. It's so quacked. It's so bizarre. It's mental illness on a level I don't know if we can really get our arms around. And you're right, we got to keep speaking truth. But it's the people listening to us, they need to interact also with people who come to them with this type of crazy and confront them and just wonder if, if facts based, sane people who are normal, right, who, who aren't living in rage every day based on, you know, the rapture coming, which a lot of people was upset it didn't happen on Tuesday. I think those kind of people, the normies, right, the people that are sane, the people who use scientific method and critical thought, it's not as hard for them to get angry, right, because they're like, there's no way that these people can be this stupid. But I just need people that are listening to me and you right now to understand they are that stupid. And you can't in a party if you're a church, if you're in a school and you got an idiot comes up to you and says don't take Tylenol because it causes autism, you need to let them know immediately that they have been misled by the dumbest human being on the planet because sourcing and science says that he's wrong and he's a liar. And if you believe that right, that you need to not really hang out too much with people who are that dumb and you need to confront them. And I'm sorry, that's just where I'm at, Amy, is that you have to be confrontational now.

B (46:26)

Yeah, we do. And the stuff like the silencing of Pentagon reporters, that is a big deal. I mean, think about this. The fact that we just had three different strikes on random speedboats in the Caribbean and there's nobody that's going to be asking, hey, what? Where was the evidence for these guys for you to execute them on the high seas? I mean, I feel like that's kind of just, oh, we're just done with that now, you know, and, and that's because we don't have a Pentagon press poll right now that, that has the, you know, we've got an administration that's trying to get rid of, of free speech and trying to get rid of, of the freedom of the press. So I don't know. One other thing I want to get your take on before we go to some good news. And there is some good news. Antifa now that the, the administration has now labeled ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organization and is directing the Trump administration to investigate any illegal operations carried out by Antifa and pursue people who fund such operations. And I'm all for going after terrorists. Let me just say that like I fought terrorists. Okay?

C (47:47)

Yeah, me too.

B (47:48)

But I'm just wondering your take on this because I noted that the right wing extremist groups like proud boys and 3 percenters. You know, 3 percenters, by the way, actually plotted in October of 2020 to kidnap the Michigan governor. They were associated with that, but apparently they are not on this new list.

C (48:14)

Well, they were pardoned.

B (48:16)

Oh, right, I.

C (48:19)

We forgot. Right, that a bunch of, you know, vets and wannabes and losers. Right. Mouth breathing, what they call themselves, right? What do they call them? Western chauvinists, which is another name for white nationalists. These insurrectionists, these pieces of dung. Right. Are running around out there weaponized by a gaslighting glue sniffing president. But we have an acronym and anti fascist. What is anti antifascist, Amy? That would be fascist.

B (48:54)

And there's no evidence of support between the killer of. Of course not Charlie Kirk or any of these left. There's no, there's no evidence of support between any of these left wing organizations.

C (49:10)

Or they would have released it Killers.

B (49:12)

I mean, I, I don't know. It's just. Yeah. All right, well, I want to get into some Cheers. Can we, can we do some, some time for that? Because it's my favorite part. There's two things that, that are really interesting, I think stories coming out. The first one is that we now have the technology for these AirPods to double as hearing aids and foreign language translators. So if you have these airp, you can actually talk to somebody else who has their AirPods in. And if you both have the same translation app on Apple, I guess it's the AirPods Pro 3. You can have a fluid conversation being translated. Isn't that cool?

C (49:59)

It's so great. And I'm sure the hearing aid lobby will try to ban these. That's what I've heard.

B (50:09)

I mean this would have made, you know, when my husband and I went to. We did, we got married. And we did not have a honeymoon right away because we both deployed to Afghanistan right after we got married. Eric was up in Kabul and I was down in Helmand province. So we did our actual honeymoon like a year later and we did this tour through France and we tried to do the Rosetta Stone, you know, like the Rosetta Stone prior to going to France because neither one of us speak the language. It was so painful and we were, we were terrible. And we couldn't, I mean, we'd be there trying to order stuff on, on the menu and it was, we basically just had to turn to the people next to us and be like, we're gonna, we're gonna order what? They just point to that one. Wouldn't this be Great just to have, you know, when you're traveling, it would listen to people, I don't know, just.

C (51:01)

Completely listen on their conversations and you know, that kind of stuff. Be all voyeuristic translating.

B (51:09)

There's also these AI glasses out there. And you probably know about this.

C (51:12)

I do.

B (51:14)

Put on these glasses, it can read for, for people who are blind or partially blind, they can read texts on menus, receipts, mail, that kind of thing. You can see the signs in the subway station. So yes, this is pretty.

C (51:31)

They also have, they also have glasses that can do automatic identity resolution. So if you look at a person, it does facial recognition and tells you who they are, where they live. It's great. You know, and yeah, yeah, that's coming and you know, that's a hell of a. Cheers. But I, but yeah, I got a feeling though that the hearing aid lobbies are. And the ophthalmologists are not optimistic, auditory people.

B (51:54)

I'm an optimist. You're not an optimist. This is. I'm not. What do you mean? I think, I think this is going to be good.

C (52:00)

You're, you're like, I'm love light and lollipop.

E (52:02)

Oops.

B (52:03)

All right, let's talk about the new astronaut group. There's 10 new astronauts for our country and six of them are women, which I think is really cool. They're not astronauts overnight. They get selected, right. And they go through a couple of years of training and then they're eligible to go into orbit. This group might be the first ones to go to Mars. You never know. But, but Denver, there's one of them from Charlottesville.

C (52:32)

Yes.

B (52:33)

Virginia.

C (52:34)

That's right. Yes, that's correct. And I thought that was fantastic. And yeah, it's just awesome to have that kind of astronaut class. So cheers. Right?

B (52:44)

Cheers to them. And I'm gonna tell you, you have one from Charlottesville, we have one from Kentucky. I'm gonna talk about her real quick. Okay. I don't know her personally.

C (52:55)

Okay.

B (52:55)

But her, her name is Lieutenant Commander Aaron Overcash, call sign Loft.

C (53:01)

Okay.

B (53:02)

Goshen, Kentucky, which is near Louisville.

C (53:04)

Okay.

B (53:05)

And of course, we have a lot in common. She is an experienced F18 echo and fox driver. Super Horn Pilot station at Oceana, Virginia, which I spent some time there as well. But she is like a bigger badass than I am. She, first of all, her call sign is Loft. And their call sign I think is Loft because she was a two time Kentucky state champion high jumper.

C (53:33)

Oh.

B (53:34)

So I'm guessing that's why her call sign was loft. But she is also an Ironman triathlete. She trained with the US Women's Rugby national team. And this is the kicker for those of you who are not fighter pilots, she was a graduate of the U.S. naval Test Pilot School in Pax river. And that that pretty much the best of the best go there. When I read her bio, I was like, holy schnikes. So Kentucky veteran. Awesome. Who's going to be married to another naval aviator. We also have that in common. But cheers to all of the astronauts and specifically to the to those from Kentucky. I'm not proud. Oh, nice, nice.

C (54:26)

Cheers.

B (54:26)

All right.

C (54:27)

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B (54:55)

Cheers everyone from Truth in the Barrel. See you next time.

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