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Truth in the Barrel
This Week Unfiltered LIVE | 09.04.25
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Amy and Denver went live to do an extra packed episode of This Week Unfiltered. They talked Epstein, The RFK hearings, Trump’s retribution tantrum on the J6 Committee, Military Executions in foreign seas, Ashli Babbitt – and still had time for...
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Amy
Hi everyone. Tonight we're taking a live, unfiltered look at the current state of our country. The Epstein scandal. The survivors of his abuse courageously speak the truth this week and the White House still hides behind their cowardice and lies. We'll talk about the HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Tonight. And we're going to be talking about the killing of the drug runners. The people who investigated January 6th are now being investigated. We're going to talk about Space Command moving to Alabama. Tons of other stuff. Welcome everyone to the Department of War. Truth in the barrel. A different kind of Whiskey rebellion. Hey, good to see you again.
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Denver
It's good to be here. It's good to see you, Amy. I know I've been jet setting a tad, but it's so good to see you because the show is so big. I don't know. I know we like to get listeners on, but I don't know if we should jump right into it because we only have like 30 insane topics.
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Amy
It's a lot. There's a lot going on. But before we do, we got to make sure everybody's following us on Tick Tock X Blue Sky, True social media, you name it.
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Denver
Substack Now YouTube.
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Amy
Yeah, sub stack. Now follow our substack. You can find all of it. Truthinthebarrel.com so make sure you do that. That's your like public service announcement from the department from the Department of War.
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Denver
That's right. We're here to kill boats.
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Amy
Let's get into the first topic. We have a lot to get through.
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Denver
We do.
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Amy
And oh, by the way, if, if people have comments, you can throw them in the chat. You know, if it's decent, we'll, we'll take a look at it. Yeah, there we go. Tell us where you're from, all that stuff. It is great. We love to see it. All right. White House said this week that if you sign, if you're a member of Congress, Denver, and you sign a discharge petition on Epstein to like release the Epstein files, that is considered a quote, hostile act against the Trump administration. So there's a lot going on here. The victims of the Epstein scandal criminal activity had a press conference this week. And after the press conference, our president commented from the White House that the whole Epstein list ordeal is a quote, Democrat hoax intended to get people to talk about something totally irrelevant because I guess he's such a successful president. So that's, that's where we start tonight.
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Denver
Well, I mean, is Pam Bondi part of the Democratic hoax? Amy, didn't, yeah. Didn't Pam Bondi say she had the Epstein list or on her desk? And how about the files they gave to the influencers? Do you remember that? Aren't we celebrating, right. The six month anniversary or something like that of the files, the phase one Epstein binders being passed out, you know, to some of the, like Cernovich and Bosobic and all those mouth breathing idiots, D.C. drano.
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Amy
Well, President Trump ran on this. We forget about it, right. He ran on this as a campaign issue and now he's saying it's a hoax.
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Denver
Well, maybe he was fooled because Joe Biden, as you know, probably was orchestrating this conspiracy behind closed scenes where they even fooled Donald Trump into thinking there was a list. But him and Pam Bondi who said they had the list somehow were fooled by the Democrats and the deep state all the way back to Obama because of course Obama had something to do with the Epstein list too. And Clinton, by the way. I am, you can't forget Obama, Clinton and Biden all coordinated adding his name to the Epstein list. However, the Epstein list does show that he's a hero because now he's come out and saying that the Epstein list and the Epstein files are now showing he helped go after Epstein, which is made up. And now you have this new thing, right, where the Epstein files actually was helped by Trump. They're still a hoax. So I, I think that that makes complete sense.
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Amy
Okay, well here's the thing. TR Trump kept the issue alive, right? All throughout the campaign with his promises to release this list and hold the guilty accountable. Now he's trying to pretend that this is all the Democrats doing this. And what's, what's the reality? I mean, we, we can all speculate. I mean, he's, he's on the list, right? He's part of this. He clearly guy Jeffrey Epstein. There's probably a lot of other famous people that are on this list, but, you know, he is, he is one of them. But it's like one of these things where, like, he campaigned on this and now he's trying to run away from it. And I don't think he's going to be able to do it. Thomas Massie, who is a congressman from Kentucky, Republican, he has been really pushing for the Epstein list to be released. And he had an interview on cnn, said that he was considering if the victims would come out and say for themselves who was on the Epstein list, release their own list. From what they know, if they do that, then he and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Denver
Marjorie Taylor Greene would go on the.
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Amy
Floor, the House floor, and read that list to the public. I don't know if that actually happened, but, wow.
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Denver
It should happen. If, you know, if you say it, you should do it. And they would be immune in a way, with a debate clause reading from the floor of Congress, they could get away with saying those names. And, you know, Massie already came out and said one of the big donors was definitely in the list, one of those donors for Trump. And you're starting to wonder that maybe it's not just Trump that's protecting Trump, but Trump might be protecting some of his biggest Republican donors and maybe the Epstein list, if you're looking at that, if you want to take sort of that common sense. Look, Amy, maybe the Epstein list is dominated by the GOP Republicans and sympathizers more than Democrats, which is why they're trying to cover this up. The other thing, too, you know, Prince Andrew is not this, you know, this stalwart of far left liberalism. Right. I mean, so, right. Probably more, you know, more in line with Farage. Right. So I think that what you're seeing right now is that there's multiple things that they have problems with. Trump's in there multiple times. And I don't want to start this. This is weird to start. It's like a West Virginia family reunion, because people think it's going to go one place, but I'm going to take it another. But this is like a West Virginia family reunion where I don't know what? Your reunion's. Amy, because I'm West Virginia a lot, too. You know what I mean? I know you're Kentucky, but we'd always have a little prize if you could guess the number of beans in a jar.
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Amy
Okay.
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Denver
Yeah. You know what I mean? Guess the number of beans. It's the same as guessing the number of times Trump is in the Epstein files. And I have a number. I'm to say. 458. That's my number. 458 times is my number that trumps in the Epstein files. That's what I'm thinking. That's the number of beans of idiocy that we have in there.
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Amy
Do you think, though? And we'll move on to more important topics soon. But do you think, though, that will ever really be released, like the whole thing?
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Denver
Nope. Nope. And you know, they did the. And here's the reason, Amy. You know, they did that thing where they wanted to release the grand jury records, but you know that's not going to happen. That those are sealed for a reason. Right. To protect those.
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Amy
I get that.
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Denver
Yeah. So they did that like, oh, look, the judge said, no, of course not. I mean, that's, that's, that's actually rule of law. That's precedent going back to who knows how far. Now they're going to keep retreading the same documents that have already been released, and then they're going to say they're protecting the innocent while saying it's the Democrats that had the fake list and they're the ones who are the actual pedos. And what it comes down to is that whatever is in the Epstein files about Trump is really, really bad. And I know we have listeners. I'm not even joking. It's really bad. And I hate to say this, I don't want to go from a democracy to a pedo ocracy. Right. Where we're actually protecting pedos and things like that. Would you pronounce a podocracy pedo ocracy. A podocracy. But I don't want to go to. I don't know, I don't want to go to a podocracy. And I feel like we're going that way. Especially when he said that anybody who's who signed onto the legislation with Matthew were hostile to him. Right. And to the Republicans. It's just insane to me.
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Amy
Yeah. And, and really just, just that that line in there. Take the Epstein part of it out. But that line in there that says that any member of Congress that sl Signs on to any piece of legislation is hostile to the administrative. It's like, what? What?
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Denver
Who are you, you bloviating, fat rhymes with luck.
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Amy
I mean, it's called our democracy. They are the Congress. They're an equal branch of government. You put people, put legislation up and sign on to legislation all the time. Anyway, I digress. We have a lot going on in the public health sphere. Okay. Just this week, and really, in the past couple of weeks, there's somewhat, I would consider, chaos at the center for Disease control right now. Seven of the past directors of the CDC have written an op ed saying that RFK Jr. Who is the head of. Of Health and Human Services right now, he's a member of the Cabinet in Trump's cabinet, that this man is actually hurting Americans. It's somewhat unprecedented op ed, and not only that, but there's been a letter with over a thousand HHS employees. They wrote that to RFK Jr. Kind of sounding the alarm, saying that, you know, your leadership, Mr. Secretary, has put the health of all Americans at risk and demanded his resignation. The authors were of the op ed were directors from Democratic and Republican administrations. So that in itself is news. And then, of course, you had the hearings today when the Senate with RFK Jr. Did you see any of that?
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Denver
Mm, yeah. I mean, he couldn't answer basic scientific questions. But, you know, what I also saw, Amy, is that the far right was touting that he did so well because he's. He's fighting Big Pharma now. They've changed us back to this conspiratorial line. But he, I mean, he, he was, you know, and I got to hear the, the weirdness, the heavy breathing that he was doing and things like that. I actually went and watched some of it. And he's, He's. He's got issues and, you know, to have a hoodoo witch doctor in charge of HHS, I think is great look for the United States, but I also think he has probably health issues. I also believe that the, the far right's going to have a tough time with this. He's got to go. He's going to kill people, and there's going to be a lot of people dying. It's going to be children, because, you know, there's an ignoramus type of line going on right now. It's sort of metastasized. We talk about metastasizing pandemics right now. Stupidity and ignorance. And this administration is really, I think, perpetuating that pandemic.
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Amy
Yeah, I mean, it's not Funny, we are weakening our country and our people against cancer, against heart attacks, against lead poisoning, against measles. Just before we came on, I watched a clip of a Republican senator who was on CNN with Casey Hunt and his argument is that only non citizen kids can contract measles. I mean, what kind of level of galactically stupid are we right now? It's just, it's just going to hurt people. And it's based on this flawed research, unscientific people that are now leading our, what was once the world standard of public health in terms of agencies in the CDC and in hhs. It's terrible.
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Denver
Amy, Mark Wayne, you know, I know, I know Mark Wayne Mullen pretty well. Some of my people went to work for him when he went to the Senate, who used to work for me a long time ago. When I first met Mark Wayne, he seemed like he was marginally sane. You know, he was in the House then, he wasn't in the Senate. And so to watch him now, it is the same as I've seen with a lot of my other former colleagues who I thought were sane have completely, you know, gone over to the side of, you know, of a cult and that cult, you know, people want to say the Trump cult, but it's like the cult of Elmer's glue. I don't know if they sniff it every morning or what's going on. But also, I don't know how you could be so, so critical, Amy, because Mark Wayne did do the Bobby and Pete push up and pull up challenge. Congrats. I don't know, I don't know how you could be so critical of somebody so studly as to have done that.
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Amy
Yeah, that's, it's sad that that is, that's the measure of leadership. How many, how many pull ups can you do? Incorrectly, I might add, incorrectly. But hey, realistically though, this is, this is really important. When you cut funding for the cdc, when you take out and fire the experts, when you come out with bogus claims about vaccines, it hurts Americans, it hurts rural communities, it hurts children, it hurts families. We have some of the best experts in the world. The past 80 years has been some of the greatest achievements in public health in the world happening here in the United States. Life expectancy rates gone up. We eradicated smallpox, we eradicated polio. My mother is as a polio survivor, Mitch McConnell. You know, I ran against him. He's a polio survivor.
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Denver
Yes.
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Amy
You know, these like vaccine, the anti vax push is just, it's, it's insane. Smallpox killed 500 million people before vaccines, measles killed 300 million people. And right now we're being led by, by the crazies.
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Denver
George Washington believed in the smallpox vaccine, right? And you know, if you go all the way back, you know, the downstream effects of stupid are usually terminal and people die. And that's what you're looking at, RFK Jr. And things like that. But what's happened in Florida? Did you see what happened in Florida, Amy, Under Desantis, right? I think it was. What's the name of that individual?
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Amy
The, the head of the Florida Surgeon General or something?
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Denver
The Surgeon General. But I was trying to remember his name. I apologize. It just sort of left me. It's product of age. But, you know, nobody wants to remember him now. No, they don't. But he just said, right, that no child, no body, right, that there actually was no children would be have mandatory vaccines going into school. They shouldn't be forced to have any vaccines. And, and for those who believe in vaccinations and science, that means that the parents of the children, you know, that are vaxxed, they're going to have to worry about these unvaxed clusters of children. And then when you get weird statistics out there, and I don't know if one of you sent that to me, where now it says like, as far as mandatory vaccinations, I think it's gone from 80 to 50% where the American public believe it. The downstream effect of ignorance and populism are these type of things which you see happening in Florida. And my guess is as kids start to die, I do wonder what happens with these health systems as adults and kids start to die because of lack of vaccinations. It's gonna happen. It's a scientific fact. And that's really what's interesting to me and also tragic is that that downstream effect is now in Florida and it's gonna keep going. You know, you have the states that are trying to outlaw MRNA vaccines. I know you've heard about that too. Amy, all this is happening because of a couple things. One is the Epstein files distractions. But the second thing is the 2026 midterms. And I think they're doing polling. I think they're looking at far red right districts and those districts are very anti vax. I think that's why you're seeing this big push is for the 2026 midterms.
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Amy
Well, it's sad because it's going to hurt people. And I also think we don't, on this show, we don't always want to just throw stones at what's going on. There's a lot of badness going on and this is one of them. But I often think about, look, the fact that in recent years the CDC has been villainized and many Americans don't believe it. They feel like there's too much politics. In other words, people who lean right when Biden's in the White House, they think the CDC is after them or the female not giving them disaster relief because they're in a red area. And then likewise, you see it on the other side too. And for right or wrong, that appears to be where we're going in terms of the trust of the American people. And I think that some of these agencies, it's so important for their mission that the American people trust them. And so one of the ideas I had, you know, was let's try to make them independent. You know, I never would have thought this like 10 years ago. We probably didn't need it. But you know, we have some pseudo independent agencies like the Fed, like the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And maybe we need to do that for the cdc. Maybe we need to take it completely out of the hands of the, the executive branch or the president being able to fire people or tinker with people and have that be its own independent agency where it can have actual experts that, you know, aren't going to change what they say based on the midterms.
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Denver
Imagine the, the paradigm shift, Amy, where me and you were talking about the cdc. Never think there's a president or executive branch who would be anti vax to a level that we're seeing today. And I know we had talked, you know, there's so many important things that we have to cover, you know, in this live show. And I know that people are excited to be on here, but what really, really scares me, Amy, is where does this go from here? I don't think it's not going to get better over the next three and a half years with Trump in the, in the White House. And I think you're right about an independent cdc, but how do we even get that across the line, you know, with a Congress that's Republican dominated right now? And I think that's the big fear. I mean, I shouldn't say Republicans do it right now.
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Amy
You'd have to do it in the future. You'd have in the future smart people in office that say enough is enough.
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Denver
And did you just say smart people in office, Amy?
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Amy
That's what we have to do.
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Denver
I listen facts based individuals. I was Trying to think of something during COVID And I was wondering, you know, what happened in Covid where so many people emerged from that cave. Absolutely lost their mind. And I don't know if the stupid people are like cheese and they just get more and more mold on them as they sit in their cool apartments over the years or something, but I think we're to a point now that we have to think after Covid, something broke in the minds of people who are already credulous and ignorant. And you know, you had QAnon and Covid sort of come together in this sort of toxic meatball. Right. Of conspiracies. And you know, Covid was just a downstream effect of QAnon, which the January 6, you know, stolen election conspiracy theories were a downstream effect of QAnon. Then you had Covid and the anti vaxxers, which were before QAnon. But again, there's been. There's this permission structure for crazy. And if the saying in the re and those who believe in reality don't fight back, you know, we're going to be in a place that's so dire and awful in the next year based on health, based on the economy, based on foreign policy and politics, based on, you know, illegal maneuvers. Right. And based on us doing stupid stuff like, you know, are we going to change the name of every single organization, every single department in the United States, which I know you want to get to. So, I mean, this is. We have just. We have cross the Rubicon into insanity. Yeah.
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Amy
Well, we're going to get. We're going to get to the Department of War, but there's a couple more things I want to talk to you about before we get there. The January 6th committee is. So just this week, the House of Representatives, Republican House of Representatives created a subcommittee.
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Denver
Yes.
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Amy
To investigate the subcommittee.
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Denver
Subcommittee. The.
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Amy
The subcommittee this House this term of the House of Representatives to investigate the subcommittee from the last House representatives that investigated January 6th. And get this, Denver, I want to get your. Take this. This new subcommittee is led by Representative Barry Loudermilk for Air Force. He the guy who like gave the Insurrectionists a tour the day prior. Am I remember?
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Denver
Oh, gosh. So there's a lot here. God, a lot to unpack. Amy, I don't know how far you want to go on this. So Barry is a former Air Force cyber guy. Actually called me after I left the committee for help on the security portion of it. Long, long story. But I had a lot of Republicans actually wanting to work with me when I thought they were fairly Sane. And a lot of that had to do with. I was already working with Liz and Adam, obviously. I was a senior technical Advisor on the January 6th committee. So this touches me specifically, even, you know, as far as the pardons go too. As you know, I've been pardoned also. I had a preemptive pardon from President Biden. So there's a lot of this to unwrap. The reason Barry Loudermilk is so down the line wanting retribution no matter what, and I know Barry well, is that we did know during that time, and this is, this is breaking some news. We had no evidence, data or otherwise, that Barry was giving tours or had people there that actually had anything to do with what was happening. The only thing we knew is that specific people from his district posted pictures that they were there right when there weren't supposed to be tours during COVID And that steamrolled because we had saw what Lauren Boebert did with the 776-1776 tweet and others had people in the building. So when that happened, I strongly discouraged anything coming up before we had data, but they did it anyway. And I think what you're seeing right now is that Barry is bought into the conspiracy theories. There's two things happening and two things could be true at the same time. Barry has gone over the edge. And it's hard for me because he's a Financial Services Committee guy. He's very, very smart. But now it seems like, like Mark Wayne Mullen, who was never really smart, let's be honest. But Barry has gone over the deep end. He's become completely sort of. He's been evangelized, proselytized. Right? He's been converted into this religion of crazy and that the January 6th was somehow FBI created, which we know is not true. So Barry has lost his mind. But he's also so angry and so retribution minded right now. So this is what's happening. But the people around him are so nuts that when they subpoena people, I think they're going to try to do things. The thing is, they're not very good at this. They're very good at making up conspiracy theories, but they're not good at going after people like me. And what's interesting, because of the phone records and the text messages, if I get up there, they're going to be have to be very careful with people like me. The only person they really have to be careful with is me, because once I have the date, it's going to be awful. So there's this weird parallel Going. I didn't want to go into it too much, but I had to be truthful and factual here, Amy, is that yes, there were weird things that were happening, but there were a couple of the congressional members who I talked to personally, like what is happening? Why am I being, why is this being put on me? This, these were just people from my district that I could get in and we can because we wear the pin. So that's, that's, that's what's happening. You have this combination of retribution, but you also have this cult like behavior that's very hard to control and that's a very toxic mix.
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Amy
Well, now this subcommittee, Denver will have subpoena power, supposedly. But get, but get this. Jim Jordan is on the committee, the subcommittee and when he was subpoenaed by the last committee, he refused.
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Denver
He did.
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Amy
Oh, okay.
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Denver
Coward. Thing is, I won't refuse. Yeah, that's the difference, right, Jim? Tough wrestler, right? A tough wrestler who allowed a lot of his wrestlers, from what I saw, allegedly get molested. But a guy is supposed to be really tough. The thing is, is that every time there's a real bar fight, this guy seems to run into the bathroom. And that's why he ran away from the subpoena. There was no way for him to answer questions because of what he had sent in the Meadows text messages and he had sent how to overthrow the election through subterfuge. And that was one of the texts he sent around 11pm on January 5. If people would like to go look that up, you can. Because you know, the person who actually found those texts with my team, my team was brilliant. You're looking at them. So that's why Jim was so afraid. Amy, I'm not afraid. There's not a scared bone in my body when it comes to sitting up in front of Congress to tell them exactly what happened. The issue that you're going to have if I go on data and facts is that the Republicans are going to be dragged by me. But There is a 10 to 15% on the Democrat side, especially with security. That was a real screw up. So it's going to be really fascinating who they call. The one guy who knows more about the data than anybody in the world is me as far as who was on the committee. And I just find it interesting and wonder if with me on the pardon list, with me being the senior technical advisor, with me actually on the, on the page of the January 6 Committee Report and me writing the breach, I just wonder how that's going to go down. But I will not run away from a subpoena. Amy.
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Amy
Well, I, I don't know what to hope for you, but I certainly hope that, you know, if they're going to spend time on this, they need to have people say the truth. Apparently there are three Dems on this committee and five, I think, Republicans. It's clear what they're trying to do. But, you know.
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Denver
Well, I wonder.
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Amy
I also think it's a distraction from Epstein. Everything.
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Denver
Well, I wonder if, I wonder if Raskin is going to be one of the Democrats. Right. Who was on the original. But if they want to get really, you know, put Raskin, Moskowitz on there and then pick a new Dem who just wants to fight. Right. And that's what I would do. But, you know, or, you know, gets. Put Zoe Lofgren back on there. Right. Or, you know, one of the, one of the other original members, put him back on there and have them just go to war on these guys. Repeat Aguilar. Right.
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Amy
Somebody that knows and has been involved in it, you know.
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Denver
Absolutely, absolutely. Just insane. Well, it's, it's also retribution and authoritarian and feels a little fashy, doesn't it?
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Amy
A lot of what they do is all right.
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Denver
Yeah.
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Amy
So this week, though, in international affairs, in international relations. So we call. Yes, we just. The United States just conducted a kinetic strike against a suspected, and I repeat, suspected drug running ship off the coast of Venezuela. So this was a kinetic strike against a foreign vessel and apparently killed 11 people, 11 civilians who were suspected of being drug runners. Right. But it's international waters. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get your take first before I talk about this.
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Denver
The thing that they do is they put the sane and the rational in this weird place, right? Me and you have no love lost for drug cartels. And if me and you were ordered in a lawful and legal manner to eliminate cartel groups that were hurting or killing Americans, we would have no issue. Me and you, None. Not a one. But there's those two words, legal and lawful or legal and ethical, that you sort of have to follow. And this is to the point where the Epstein files must be really, really bad now to just, you know, shoot at boats in international waters. And if they really want to hurt the cartels, Amy, it's like the one off with Iran. It didn't hurt their nuclear program hardly at all. They dropped a bunch of bunker, bunker busters and they'd already moved the equipment. We know this. It's ludicrous to think otherwise. And we know that they fired the people in intelligence and the DIA who said it. I think this is a one off. It's a distraction. By killing people in an illegal manner, Even if they're bad guys. We have to acknowledge if they're bad guys, they're bad guys. Help me. And you would love to do that in a legal, lawful, ethical manner. Love it. It'd be great. But this isn't. And this is such a bad precedent. And if they really want to kill cartel members, just make RFK junior Their doctor.
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Amy
Well, here's. Yeah. And I. And I hear you. I have no love lost for, for drug runners. You know, you and I were both in the military. We both were in combat. You know, we get, we get it. We don't like bad guys, okay? I get it. These guys are criminals. Potentially. We don't even know because they were never given.
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Denver
They were dead. Dead.
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Amy
We just executed them. So there's that. But also, a crime is not an act of war. So if you use the United States military in international waters with no authorization to use military force, that's like no declaration of war, no input from Congress, which, by the way, I'm kind of a constitutionalist. I like like the we the people Constitution that was ratified in 1789. I like like that I don't have the bumper sticker on my car, which actually probably means that I read it, but that I like the Constitution. And the Constitution says that Congress has to be involved if you're going to declare war, if you're going to authorize it. We didn't, we didn't do that here. There's no self defense. So it's not like this. Like which, if you see the picture of it, is about the size of a speedboat, you know, was shooting at our U.S. navy. If you want to stop a ship because you think that there are drugs on that ship, you can stop it. You can stop it in international waters. You know, you can stop it. There's laws associated with that. You know, a lot of times the Coast Guard does that mission. You stop it. You have procedures and rules on how to do that. You board the ship, you do a search and seizure, potentially. You don't execute the people, okay? We arrest them if they're doing something that is against international law or is against our law. I feel like this is a big deal. I know it's going to be like Backpage News, but I just. That's the way.
- [32:46]
Denver
Slippery slope. I hate to use that cliche, but do we want a vigilante military or do we want an ethical and lawful military. And the thing is, what is the unintended effects of us being able to just execute people for crimes in international waters that aren't related specifically to any act of Congress or any act or lawful act? And I think that's why, as you said, Amy, before the show started, why the lawyers are trying to scramble to find anything they can to somehow adjudicate this or justify it or to. To have some kind of lawful language that they can paint this act.
- [33:23]
Amy
Oh, we determined these guys are terrorists, so we're going to go get them now, you know. Okay.
- [33:27]
Denver
Come on.
- [33:28]
Amy
But if they determine there isn't even an AUMF to go after, just random.
- [33:33]
Denver
People in the Western Hemisphere, A random, random aumf. Right. We go into Congress, me and you are in there. Like, we just need a random AUMF that we could. We could automatically execute.
- [33:46]
Amy
We just need a. I mean, Trump just. It's basically. He doesn't. He doesn't even ask for a blank check. He's not even asking Congress for a blank check to go bomb anyone. He's just doing it. And this is really important, I think, for the American people to understand. Wasn't it Trump that. That campaigned on this promise to end wars and reign in these. These costly engagements abroad? Didn't he. Didn't he run on that? Isn't this like a military escalation in the Western Hemisphere? Exactly what he campaigned against. You know, he's going out there and bombing Iran's nuclear facilities without any authorization from Congress. He's targeting cartels in Latin America. He's, you know, launching strikes against the Houthis with no authorization. And he's failing to resolve the conflicts that actually existed before he got into office that he promised he would fix on day one. I'm talking Ukraine and Gaza, and now he's lobbying for a Nobel Peace Prize.
- [34:43]
Denver
There you go again, Amy, being all rational and stuff. I don't know what you're thinking. You know, you say it's not what.
- [34:50]
Amy
The American people signed up for, you know?
- [34:52]
Denver
I know. Yeah. I. I can't do a Ronald Reagan. There you go again. That sounded like Clint Eastwood, like, with the cold. I don't know what that was. There you go again. Now. I don't even know what that was.
- [35:04]
Amy
I don't either. I don't even know.
- [35:06]
Denver
I don't even. I'm trying.
- [35:08]
Amy
What. What are you drinking tonight?
- [35:10]
Denver
I'm drinking some. Will it. I'm drinking a Willett straight Kentucky bourbon. Doing a rare release tonight. Oh, yeah. But you can see. I don't. I haven't drank a lot of it. Okay.
- [35:19]
Amy
You got to turn it a little bit so I can see.
- [35:21]
Denver
Yeah, so there's the one.
- [35:22]
Amy
There we go. Okay, good.
- [35:24]
Denver
Yeah. And you can see here is the fill line now.
- [35:27]
Amy
Yeah, let's look. Good. You didn't do all that tonight, did you?
- [35:31]
Denver
No, no, no, that's over the last two days. No, I'm kidding. No, this is over last year.
- [35:36]
Amy
This is something. Most of what I have is what my husband gets. So I'm like, he's the one that goes out and buys it, which is wonderful. And then, you know, we both partake. But this is Basil Hayden's red wine cask finish. So they, they finish it in California red wine. It's good.
- [35:58]
Denver
Is it homemade?
- [35:59]
Amy
Good.
- [35:59]
Denver
Okay.
- [36:01]
Amy
And then he bought it and I've tried it. It's a little bit of cherry flavor and oaks. It looks. And it actually looks a little red too. Like it's kind of just has a.
- [36:13]
Denver
Little bit of a nice look. It's good because Basil Hayden's a nice whiskey. Let's be honest, right? It's good stuff. And if they got a red wine cast finish bourbon, I want it.
- [36:23]
Amy
It's. It's good. It says it's in select areas only, so I don't know how Eric got it, but let me ask you this before we move on. Have you. Because one of the things that Eric bought, he says he bought it for me, but really, it's okay. Let's be honest. It's one of these, like, smoker kits.
- [36:42]
Denver
Yeah.
- [36:43]
Amy
Or do you like those?
- [36:45]
Denver
It depends.
- [36:47]
Amy
I have to kind of be in the mood. I'm not. I don't know. Not really.
- [36:52]
Denver
We smoke our old fashions on our own barrel heads. So what we do is we smoke the glass. We have a torch. Because you know, what goes better together than fire and liquor? So we actually, we set our. What? We set our, our barrel head on fire, tap it out with the glass, right? And then that smoke just fills out. So we actually fill the ice as it's still smoking, and we try to get the pour and the old fashioned mix as it's still smoking, get that smoky flavor in there. It's fantastic. But you have to have a good smoker.
- [37:21]
Amy
You have to know what you're doing.
- [37:23]
Denver
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.
- [37:24]
Amy
Like us.
- [37:25]
Denver
Well, well, well. How about this? How about this, Amy, from me to you. I'll come down here in the next few weeks. Hopefully we can get together and how about I bring a Barrel. A barrel head. And we do some smoked old fashions. I'll make you some smoked old fashions with our special old fashioned mix and we'll use your smoker and we'll, we'll have some fun. How does that sound?
- [37:45]
Amy
That sounds good because I think it's just technique really is to get it right. I feel like a couple times we've done it and it's just like not been.
- [37:54]
Denver
Yeah, no, but, but you know what? I got you. Okay, Let me, let, let me help you. Help me help you. Okay.
- [38:04]
Amy
We need that. We need that. All right, we got a lot of quick shots tonight because there's a lot going on. So I want to start out with space command. Space command moves, is now moving from Colorado to Alabama.
- [38:19]
Denver
Yes.
- [38:21]
Amy
Your thoughts?
- [38:22]
Denver
Yeah. Peterson, Schreiber, all those nice places I've been to, to Huntsville, Redstone Arsenal, which I've been to many times. I actually had contracts in Huntsville with the Pentagon. Amy. So I was back and forth all the time. My thoughts, here's simply why it happened. Are you ready for this? I know this is going to blow your mind. Are you ready?
- [38:40]
Amy
Send it.
- [38:41]
Denver
Colorado's a blue state. Alabama's a red state.
- [38:44]
Amy
There you go.
- [38:45]
Denver
That's it. And they're going to spend a lot of money to translate all those forces for no reason whatsoever than a childish decision by PD Hegseth.
- [38:56]
Amy
Yeah, yeah. So you hit the nail on the head there. It's super expensive. You're not just moving infrastructure, which is super expensive. You're moving families.
- [39:10]
Denver
Yes, you're moving families.
- [39:11]
Amy
You're moving like experts in like nuclear and space engineering and, and you know, rocket science and stuff like that. You're like, then they've like have homes and families and stuff like that already established and you're forcing them to, to move. Okay. It has an impact on readiness. And so anyone like you and I that knows what it's like to move a family, imagine what it's like to move an entire command. You think, you think that entire command is going to be on the ready? You know, it's a distraction and it's purely for political purposes. You know the name space Force, I mean it was just a. I don't know how you feel about it, but it's kind of a name change. Right. It was already in that. We already had people doing the same stuff.
- [40:02]
Denver
They were, it was under air Force. Right. It was in the U. S. Space command. Right.
- [40:05]
Amy
And it was. And it makes sense to be with NORAD in Colorado. Makes sense, yeah.
- [40:11]
Denver
I mean, I was friends with one of the commanders. It does make sense to be in Colorado. Can you imagine that conversation? Here it goes, Amy. Ready? Hey, Bob. Yeah. Hey, I know you got here three months ago. Do you like your house up in the foothills underneath the Rockies here in Colorado? Oh, yeah, I do. I love it, sir. It's fantastic. Well, Bob, you're moving to Alabama. That's pretty much what that, that conversation. Everybody right now, they were sitting in their house. They're like, ah, son of a. You know, all that's going on right now. And the wives, like, we just PCs here. I thought we were coming from Mississippi to Colorado. Now I've got to go to Alabama.
- [40:53]
Amy
And, and let's be real, you're also going, you know, 30 of the force and space force women.
- [40:59]
Denver
Yeah.
- [40:59]
Amy
Many of the men have, you know, wives, and they're moving to a state that doesn't, isn't going to allow them to have reproductive health care.
- [41:08]
Denver
And that's a great point.
- [41:09]
Amy
That's a, that's a big deal.
- [41:11]
Denver
You have a, you know, General, she's talking to her husband, right. And she goes, you know what? I have to make a decision whether I want a PCs or I want to get out. And now you got. Some of the best people might want to get out.
- [41:23]
Amy
And I bring this up because this, all of this crap started with Tommy Tuberville using the military as his personal political weapon to rip reproductive rights away from women in the military. Okay. That's where this started. And Republican senators allowed him to do it, allowed him to hold up promotions within the military for like nine months, disrupting the entire military system, personnel system. And he's now being rewarded for that crap?
- [42:01]
Denver
Yes.
- [42:02]
Amy
By, by this president.
- [42:03]
Denver
Yes.
- [42:04]
Amy
And Petexa.
- [42:05]
Denver
That's it. That's the only reason. There's no other reasons? No, the reasons. All right, what do you do?
- [42:11]
Amy
Here's another one we've saw this week, Denver. Vladimir Putin going to China for the big military parade with all of the other heads of state, I think giving Trump and the United States the big middle finger. President Xi of China gave this huge military parade. Kim Jong Un was there, completed with new Chinese weapons. President Modi of India, the largest democracy in terms of population in the world. In the world, was all smiles, hanging out with Putin and Xi.
- [42:47]
Denver
Oh, yeah.
- [42:48]
Amy
And you know, thanks. Thanks, guys.
- [42:52]
Denver
Absolutely. And thanks, Maga. Thanks, Megan. And by the way, I don't know if you saw Modi grabbed Putin's hand. That's a huge thing, right? A huge troll move. It means that they're linked as friends. If you're in the Middle east, if you're used to that, Amy, as you know, you've been there. But if you're with those individuals and they grab your hand and want to show you around, that's a sign of respect and friendship. And when Modi did that with Putin, that is a hell of a sign to the rest of the world. What's happening right now between those powers and what Trump is doing in his foreign policy is he's driving our enemies closer together in a coordinated way that could be devastating to our foreign policy decades into the future. And even our dollar is weakening. The arbitrary tariffs have created enemies across, not only with our enemies like China, which we did have a fairly decent trading relationship, but with Europe, we are isolating ourselves as sort of this bizarre, infantile, you know, twice held back in the fifth grade schoolyard bully that everybody's sort of conniving against. Like, how do we beat him up? I'm tired of him taking our milk money and we're just going to take him down, you know, And I think that's really what I saw. There was exactly what every intelligence and foreign policy expert feared was what they saw there. And it happened.
- [44:10]
Amy
It's bad. Meanwhile, there was just today a Financial Times article that said that the United States is cutting some of its security training with the armed forces of European countries bordering Russia. So we're like, oh, I saw that.
- [44:25]
Denver
Yes. And sorry, if you saw me glance to the right, my dog actually pushed through and my wife had to make a big save with my dog pushing through the door. I was like, oh, no, this is.
- [44:38]
Amy
That would have been, that would have been a good blooper. But, yeah, what, what are we doing? We're, we're, we're, we're running away from our friends. Our, our, some of our longtime partners are now cozying up with Putin. And she, I mean, I, I just telling you, like, it is that line. Make, make America alone again. I, I don't know. Then this week, there's, there's two more things I want to get, get it, get through here. And, and again, if you're listening and you've got questions, you know, send them out if, if, if they're, we'd love to tackle them if we can, but. So our, our lovely Department of Defense Secretary is now the Department of War. Apparently, Pete Hegseth changed the name tonight with a big announcement in all caps. We are now the Department of War.
- [45:42]
Denver
Yes. That's to coordinate with the WWE coming to the White House. Amy, does it get to a point where you're speechless? Does it get to a point that, you know, where you're like, what else do you say anymore? It's so ridiculous, right? It is, right? Are we going to be the Department of Farms?
- [46:05]
Amy
That man just screams insecurity. To be just absolutely screams insecurity. He and, and RFK Jr. You know, the, the Secretary of, of of Health, which is a joke.
- [46:19]
Denver
Well, they're going to change that to Secretary of Bodies.
- [46:23]
Amy
Secretary. Yeah. Secretary of Disease, I guess.
- [46:27]
Denver
Sod.
- [46:28]
Amy
They did this push up, pull up challenge which I, you know, I, I like it when, and do kind of fun things, but for these two guys, I don't know, it just, to me, it just struck me as hugely insecure. We have our Secretary of Defense, you know, spending more time in the gym with the cell phone videos than he is talking to our allies, working on supporting Ukraine, all of these other things. It's like he is just, he's, I don't know, man, he's like the equivalent of like an E4 or an E5, you know, like I, I, which is great. I mean E4s and E5s are, are awesome. But like that's kind of like the mindset of, of these videos and my belief, I don't know.
- [47:20]
Denver
Well, you said something beforehand I thought was a brilliant line about him and I don't want to give your line back to you, but do you remember.
- [47:29]
Amy
No.
- [47:29]
Denver
You said about him in his rank, you said a guy, remember you said a guy who couldn't get promoted above zero four in the guard is now the Secretary of Defense.
- [47:39]
Amy
It's.
- [47:40]
Denver
Yeah, it's, it's. I agree with you. I agree with you. I do think, you know, there was this term used and I don't know if it's still in, I don't know if it's still in favor, but like metrosexual and you know, I've been thinking about this and it feels like these guys are so forward leaning and trying to express their masculinity that they might be hiding something. And you know, and I, and I think, you know, I, I wonder sometimes as you know if there's one person on earth who's done no moisturizing improvements or hair improvements to their body.
- [48:14]
Amy
That was fast. I know. Here's the thing then. You, you, you were in the Air Force. I was, I was United States Marine. Okay. So I spent most of my entire adult life working with men and, and working with like some badasses. You Know, some like really tough dudes and, and also special forces and you name it. The, the, the guys who were the most respected, the guys who like they were the best of the best, were also the most professional, the quietest, yes, the almost most humble in many respects. They never were the ones that were the he men who did cell phone videos of themselves doing pull ups, you know, halfway, they, they were, they were, they were just people that everybody knew had that respect. Those were the ones that you knew were these guys are the real deal.
- [49:21]
Denver
Never screw with the quiet guy at the bar. And you know, that's, I've, even when I was working in a bar, when I actually, you know, had muscles back in the day or whatever, when I bounced, man, it's those quiet guys, you know, and that's the other thing too, Amy. Even when I met you, you don't start telling me stories of all your exploits and I don't start telling you story. You have to know those people intimately where you start to open up like me. And you'll tell stories now because we're friends and we've been together and we can go and forth and have a great time. But it seems like these individuals that are underneath a Trump are people who could not make the big time. All of them just couldn't hack it. And it's these non hackable losers, right? These individuals, right, who had to stay on the fringes and scream and do awful things and sell their souls. They're the ones who are promoted and appointed to positions within the Trump administration. And every single real professional knows that, whether you're a military professional, whether you're a business professional, somebody who's worked themselves up, somebody who's intelligent, somebody who's rationality based, insane based. You're looking at these individuals and these are the crazies, right? These are the ones that you would never ever want running a country. Are the ones running the country because they're willing to do anything because of their lack of talent. Their only talent is bootlicking. They have the longest tongues of any servants ever in the United States military, United States history, United States government. That's the issue. Issue. These are long tone bootlickers and that is the only advantage they have. They're willing to do anything to get into those positions. Other than that, I mean, you know, I'll hold back a little bit.
- [50:58]
Amy
Well, they're changing the name from the Department of Defense to the Department of War and I think they're going to change the name of the Pentagon to the Robert E. Lee, Pentagon building and raise. You know, Pete Hags. That's probably going to raise the Confederate flag above the building and stuff. I mean, I, I believe that's.
- [51:15]
Denver
You know what, though? Is that a surprise? Would you be surprised?
- [51:18]
Amy
I would not be surprised.
- [51:21]
Denver
Not be surprised. Right. A Pentagon for all. We're uniting the United States and the Confederacy.
- [51:28]
Amy
All right.
- [51:29]
Denver
Unbelievable.
- [51:30]
Amy
We're move on our last topic, and I know you might have some more, but.
- [51:33]
Denver
And you might be doing questions tonight with anybody, Amy? I don't.
- [51:36]
Amy
I don't know. I've got one more question.
- [51:39]
Denver
Okay.
- [51:40]
Amy
You need to throw it in there. Yeah, but this I thought was really interesting because it just came out this afternoon. So. Do you know how the President is trying to fire the governor of the Fed board? Yes, he's trying to fire her when the justification is to say that she had multiple properties and claimed multiple or two properties as her primary residence. And that, you know, is bad. And so therefore it's justifiable to fire her. So ProPublica did a investigation on the Trump Cabinet. Okay. Which. How many people are in a cabinet, by the way? Is it 12?
- [52:20]
Denver
I think it is. I think. Yeah, it's 12 or something.
- [52:23]
Amy
I don't even. Somewhere around there. Of the. Of the. Of the members of the cabinets, the 12 members, three of them have claimed to have multiple properties as primary residence. You want to know who they are?
- [52:36]
Denver
Yeah, please.
- [52:37]
Amy
All right, here we go. Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy.
- [52:41]
Denver
Oh, that's not primary residences.
- [52:43]
Amy
One in D.C. and one in New Jersey. Lee Zeldin.
- [52:48]
Denver
Oh, New York. Kenny Lee. Very well. Yeah.
- [52:50]
Amy
New York and D.C. he is now the head of the EPA. He has two. Is claiming two primary residents.
- [52:57]
Denver
What?
- [52:59]
Amy
Yes. Lori Chavez, who is the Secretary of Labor, apparently has two of them that she claims as primary residences in Arizona. So he's gonna have to start investigations on three of his members. His cabinet members. You know, it's.
- [53:16]
Denver
I'm surprised Pete Hegseth doesn't have multiple mortgages. Honestly, I actually sort of am. But those three don't surprise me. You know, there's a lot of people in the cabin. I wonder if Pete ever comes out of the Cabinet.
- [53:31]
Amy
All right, we got it. We've got a question here. Could. From Iggy. All right, cool. Could Abe Lincoln get nominated today for any office in the Republican Party? It is the party of Lincoln.
- [53:44]
Denver
Is it the party. No, this is not the party of Lincoln. This is literally the party of Putin. It's.
- [53:52]
Amy
Abe Lincoln is too honest.
- [53:53]
Denver
Yeah, Honest Abe. Oh, and you know what else? Abe Is, you know, I don't think he wants to go back to the Confederacy. I think Abe Lincoln stomped on him. He crushed those losers. That's right. I said it. They're losers. Get your Confederate flag out of here. And I'm a Virginia boy, but get out of here with that.
- [54:14]
Amy
Yeah. All right. Who's out? What are your thoughts? This is from. Can you read that? Denver.
- [54:20]
Denver
Yeah. What's your thoughts on Jackson getting his rank restored? That's Ronnie Jackson. Yep. I know. I actually know Ronnie also. Everybody, like, good Lord, Denver, you've been hiding all this from us. No, I just. I know everybody. Right. That is nuts, obviously. But, yeah, my thoughts on that is that it's the same as adding the Robert E. Lee statue back. Right. It's. It's awful, it's unethical, it's immoral. He's an awful human being. And that's really what it comes down to, is they're just. He is just giving away favors. Him restoring the rank to Ronnie Jackson, who was actually Trump's doctor at one time. Do you remember this, Amy? This guy. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it's the same thing as MOV moving, you know, Space Force from Colorado to Alabama. It's the same exact principle. Give the people that are loyal to you, regardless of their ethical or professional standards, whatever they want in order to reward them. It's the authoritarian playbook. It's the tyrants playbook. And so you're giving the worst people things like that.
- [55:16]
Amy
So let me ask you this, because I. I have some thoughts on this. Ashley Babbitt, who was one of the insurrectionists, who unfortunately was.
- [55:27]
Denver
Was shot.
- [55:28]
Amy
She was. She was told to stop. She was inside the building. She tried to climb through a window. Capitol Hill police try to tell her to stop multiple times. She didn't do it. And she was shot and killed. And the last administration, the Biden administration, said you do not rate. You do not get full military honors for your funeral. And this current administration has reversed that. And so now the Air Force is going to give her memorial full military honors. What are your thoughts on that?
- [55:59]
Denver
Well, you know, I'm Air Force. You know, I'm former Air Force, and. But I know, you know, both of us are military, right? Air Force, Marine. And it's hard to get my arms around somebody that insane who tried to bust into the speaker's lobby. And if people don't understand me, I know you've probably been there, but the speaker's lobby is only for members, and the Reason it's only for members. That's a protected space before you go into the floor, right underneath the dais, right? So you come out on both of the big doors. If you're ever looking at Congress, the big doors that border each other, where the speaker sits, that's the other side. That's the Speaker's lobby. If you look over to the sides, there's doors that come into the speaker's lobby. And she tried to break in while there were members in there. But that may be people screaming, hang Mike Pence. They had nooses out there saying they want to kill congressmen. Plus, we knew from intelligence that they subscribed to the storm. The storm was. Is pulling out congressional members and either putting them into some kind of kangaroo court trial, right, A people's trial, or executing them based on crimes of trying to steal the election from Donald Trump. That's what was happening. She was shot trying to breach a protected space after warnings. She is a traitor. But, you know, if. If we're going to have Robert E. Lee statues, right, and we're going to. We're going to bring the Confederacy back, it's no surprise that you would honor somebody who not only was literally dishonorable on every. Every measure. Right. But also somebody who thought that the election was stolen, somebody that insane that they would want to breach the Capitol for a conspiracy theory that was pushed by Donald Trump and his co conspirators. And I think that's why, for me, it is so, again, like I said, I don't know when you get speechless, but this almost left me speechless, because this would be like naming the Pentagon, the Robert E. Lee Pentagon. At that point, this country has left me a bit.
- [57:55]
Amy
Yeah.
- [57:56]
Denver
And that's where I'm at.
- [57:57]
Amy
A little bit of a different take on this. And then just hear me out here, okay? I. I took it. So when, when people were sort of outraged about this, I have to remind people that full military honors. What does that really mean? Okay, it sounds big. Big. It is big, right? It is big for. For those of us that serve. However, what it really is, is you get your family gets a flag, and you get two soldiers or airmen at your memorial service. A minimum of two in uniform, in her case, airmen that are there, and one of them plays Taps. And that's it. That's. That's full military honors. Now, Ashley Babbitt served honorably in the United States Air Force for many years afterwards. She did exactly what you just said, okay. She ransacked the Capitol. She lost her life in the process. My feeling on it is if you want to give full military honors for her previous service, I actually don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is the $5 million of US taxpayer money that the Trump administration gave to her family as like, hey, she was wrongfully killed. And here's the $5 million of US taxpayer money to, to be say we're sorry. Here's the thing. She. She is responsible for her death. No one else, not that Capitol Police officer. She is responsible for it. And, and for. For them to pay for the US government and taxpayers to pay the family $5 million. That to me, is wrong. That, to me is outrageous.
- [59:46]
Denver
It is the thing, Amy, you're right. Full military honors if you're not military seems to be a lot more than it is. But let me humbly submit this to you. The message that he is sending to other military members, an inordinate amount of the J6ers, militia movements and conspiracy movements that are far right or fascist are made up of radicalized military members. And what they use is our own oath against us, Amy. The oath that we would use is all enemies, foreign and domestic, to protect this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. His message, his dog whistle to other individuals, that, that following him means full honors because following him is the way to go, regardless of your military or not. And then if you are a military member, you'll be rewarded for following whatever he says to do. And that effect, that, that chilling, radicalizing effect, is that what he just told everybody is that the service of the United States Capitol Police and the military who thought he was insane, thought Trump was insane, is going to be punished. And the people who tried to overthrow a free and fair election will get favorable treatment even going forward. And my biggest fear, Amy, is that this is a dog whistle and a radicalization measure towards other military members and people that ilk that are prone to coming into this type of conspiratorial thinking and then turning that into violence. And I think that's probably what bothered me more than anything was the rubber stamp or the actual validating stamp on the forehead of idiots that they can utilize violence as a military member, because what he says is actually true and not facts or data. And I think that's what bothers me the most.
- [61:27]
Amy
Yeah, well, well, well taken. I understand there's a lot going on Denver, and we're, we're trying. There's a lot with it. Everybody that's listening out there, I just want to say thank you for trying to keep up with it because it is important. Important. I know that sometimes we want to, you know, take out our Basil Hayden and, you know, go off in, in a corner somewhere. But, but we need to stay engaged. We need to, to continue to talk to our neighbors, to our friends. This is our country. There's a lot going on and we have to stay vigilant.
- [62:07]
Denver
So we do. And it's just so good to see you always and to have these discussions. But if people want to hear this, they definitely need to subscribe, right? And we, we talked about this before. Click the like button on YouTube. Subscribe to YouTube. Follow us on our social media channels. We're on Tic Tac now. We're on substack. Truth in the barrels, where you need to go. And we'll continue to bring to you the way it is. Right. Truth and facts and truth in the barrel and right to the glass.
- [62:33]
Amy
Cheers.
- [62:34]
Denver
Cheers, Amy.
- [62:35]
Amy
All right, have a great night, everyone.
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