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Sabrina (1:22)

Very spooky. Hi.

Corinne (1:25)

Hi.

Sabrina (1:26)

We're here.

Corinne (1:27)

This feels weird, but different. But maybe we'll read better.

Sabrina (1:29)

But I kind of like it.

Corinne (1:31)

It's like when you switch up your seat in school and then, like, everything is worse.

Sabrina (1:35)

Oh, I never. I don't think I ever had that experience. I love changing things up. Like, I love a good reorg moving things around.

Corinne (1:42)

Oh, I thought you meant in school. Because I would get so frustrated when you'd go to class and you'd have the same seat for like, eight classes in a row. And then the next class, someone just sat in your seat. You're like, what are you doing? No one else is changing seats.

Sabrina (1:54)

You were changing it up.

Corinne (1:55)

Maybe that was a light way of bullying me. I'm not sure. Was I targeted, or did people just get confused?

Sabrina (2:01)

Or maybe they wanted to change it up like we are changing it up today. Kind of. Not really, but we have a really spooky theme. It is November, meaning that the spookiest season has kind of wrapped up. But we decided to do one very extra spooky topic starting November.

Summary

Two Girls One Ghost

Episode: Encounters x306 - Paranormal Stories from Mexico
Hosts: Corinne Vien & Sabrina Deana-Roga
Date: November 6, 2025
Podcast: Hosted by Sony Music Entertainment

Episode Overview

This episode of Two Girls One Ghost focuses on chilling, listener-submitted paranormal encounters set in Mexico. Corinne and Sabrina, “your ghostesses,” explore themes of witchcraft, generational curses, and supernatural attacks—especially those said to target babies. Stories reveal how local folklore, cultural beliefs, and real-life fears intertwine, with both hosts discussing the intense and sometimes terrifying differences between living with the paranormal in Mexico compared to the United States.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Setting the Stage: Why Mexico?

Sabrina points out they wanted to keep the “spooky” spirit alive post-Halloween and chose the theme of Mexican paranormal stories for an extra-creepy November episode.
Corinne notes that, “there’s one place in particular that seems to be especially afflicted by the paranormal and many entities that we would never, ever want to encounter” (02:20).

Story #1: The Witch of Juventino Rosas

Listener: Lolly (Story begins ~03:34)

Summary: Lolly shares experiences with the infamous witches of Juventino Rosas, said to appear as owls (lechuza) or balls of fire.
Key Events:
- A lechuza stares at Lolly at 3am; her husband is paralyzed with fear (05:28–05:44).
- Lolly feels extreme depression after the incident, which lifts when she leaves the town; she returns at 7 months pregnant and experiences intense dread and supernatural activity in an aunt’s haunted room.
- During an episode of haunting negativity, the door knob shakes and a light grows under the door. Her husband’s aunt—known to have been previously possessed and now able to speak to the dead—suddenly enters and claims to have told the spirit to leave (09:25).
- Lolly’s husband later claims he saw his aunt talking to someone in her room, with glowing red eyes (12:10).
- After the baby is born, strange incidents continue: their daughter is repeatedly found placed safely on the ground, even when not able to crawl (14:00–14:41).
- The attacks cease after her baby is baptized.
Notable Quotes:
- Lolly: “I felt this very powerful feeling of dread and fear, hopelessness and dark negativity consume me.” (08:17)
- Corinne: “Maybe the witch is misunderstood…literally, there’s nothing to indicate such. Like, this is just horrific.” (12:39)
- Sabrina: “In this town, there are many stories of this happening…and it is said that it is the witch’s attempt at taking the babies.” (14:41)

Host Discussion & Reactions After Story #1

(15:21–17:52)

The hosts reflect on how belief and cultural concentration may empower such supernatural phenomena.
Corinne: “It’s like Santa Claus—the more people believe…the more power Santa has. I feel like…a larger concentration of people believing in the same thing gives more power to that sort of magic.” (15:54–16:16)
Repeated theme: why do so many stories from Mexico involve witches trying to steal babies?

Story #2: The Vulture (A Generational Curse)

Listener: Anonymous ("A") (21:47)

Summary: A recounting of a multi-generational feud between the listener’s family and a powerful witch known as The Vulture.
Key Events:
- The “Vulture” uses love potions (including period blood in drinks) to enslave men and is obsessed with the listener’s father. At her parents’ wedding, The Vulture curses the bride: “With you, I may not have been able to harm you, but with your children, I will.” (24:23)
- The first two children die in infancy or are stillborn; priest ominously confirms a baby “already belongs to God.” (26:14)
- Multiple supernatural attacks: after moving back to the US, babies are born healthy. The Vulture tries again when the listener is conceived, but mother flees to the US, escaping danger.
- Even when returning to Mexico, supernatural threats persist—human-sized owls appear, fevers arise that dissipate immediately upon re-entering the States.
- Encounters escalate: the listener is attacked by a mysterious black dog (believed to be a shapeshifting witch); food is poisoned with maggots and magic; the listener nearly dies but is saved by her grandmother’s cleansing with prayer, holy water, herbs, and eggs (36:59–38:10).
Notable Quotes:
- The Vulture (translated): “One day, I will hurt you with what you love the most. And that day, you will never forget me.” (27:57)
- Corinne: “Come on, stop being so obsessed with someone. If they don’t like you, they don’t like you.” (28:14)
- Listener's mother (during the possession): “This is your fault. This is because of your loose dick. If my daughter dies, it’s your dick’s fault.” (36:53)

Host Discussion & Reactions After Story #2

(38:44–39:11)

The hosts note the layering of multiple classic Mexican folklore motifs: witches, curses, shapeshifting, and the link between location and supernatural potency.
Sabrina: “Both of the stories…have so many similar common themes that we’ve heard in previous stories from Mexico, but they have the mod podge all together.”

Story #3: Sophia’s Lighter (But Still Spooky) Mexico Miscellany

Listener: Sophia (42:47–51:48)

Stories included:
- La Llagona: Sophia is teased by her mom for being “the crier” like the local ghost; she hears sobbing outside her home at night and chooses to ignore it.
  - “La Llagona is trying to fight me as I stole her title the other day of having an extreme mental breakdown at 3am while wearing a Victorian style nightgown.” (44:56)
- Banned from Walmart: Sophia accidentally frightens people with talk of “remote viewing” and is banned from her local Walmart.
- Haunted Hospital Tunnels: Security guards at a former nun-run hospital refuse to patrol underground tunnels due to strange noises and animals’ fear (48:11).
- Girls Summoning Bloody Mary: Sophia catches classmates in a bathroom seance, sees a terrifying apparition, and sternly ushers everyone out when her own supernatural gifts are triggered (50:20).
- Mother’s Black Vomit: Sophia’s mother experiences a bizarre, black tar vomiting episode, which the family interprets as expelling evil.
Notable Quotes:
- Sophia: “It’s a blessing and a curse, the remote viewing. Because…you don’t get to play fun Bloody Mary because you actually see Bloody Mary.” (52:01)
- Sophia: "I hope your belly buttons stay clean." (51:48)
- Sabrina (re: vomiting evil): “They just, like, kept it in the toilet to, like, to show everyone.” (51:31)

Story #4: The Farm Witch and Scissors

Listener: Luna (52:48)

Summary: Luna relates a family story where her mother witnessed her aunt warding off a witch, seen as a ball of fire on the roof, by placing scissors under the crib.
Key Points:
- The recurring motif: witches as balls of fire.
- Scissors used as protective ritual (the hosts debate whether they “sever the tie” or if it’s dangerous to place them under the crib).
Host Query:
- Why do Mexican witches target babies? Theories include the idea of “new energy/vitality” but both hosts express a wish for deeper cultural insight from listeners.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Sabrina (re: generational curses): “Snaps to breaking generational curses.” (17:05)
Corinne (about baby-stealing witches): “It’s very loser ish.” (17:20)
Sabrina: “I hope my belly buttons stay clean too...sometimes Q Tips are involved.” (51:50–52:01)
Corinne (on cultural concentration): “It almost feels unbelievable to us because we’re like, well, why is that not in my neighborhood?...It gives more power to that sort of magic.” (16:16)
Listener's grandma confronting a supernatural dog: “You may take many forms, but you cannot have my granddaughter. Out of here, dog from hell.” (33:45)

Thematic Threads

Belief as Power: The more people collectively believe in witches or the paranormal, the stronger these phenomena seem to become.
Supernatural Danger Linked to Location: Multiple stories end with the threat vanishing (or health instantly returning) once families leave Mexican soil.
Witchcraft & Curses: Many stories involve witches using potions, shapeshifting, and rituals against families, with babies as frequent targets.
Community Protection: Hosts comfort listeners by emphasizing the protective power of their podcast community and positive energy.
Curiosity & Skepticism: Both hosts express a longing for deeper understanding of Mexican witch folklore—particularly the obsession with infants.

Timestamps for Key Segments

02:20 – Announcement of the Mexico theme.
03:34 – Lolly’s witches of Juventino Rosas story.
14:41 – Cultural note on witch-babies folklore.
21:47 – Second listener story: The Vulture.
24:23 – The wedding curse.
36:53 – Listener's mother blaming dad for the curse.
42:47 – Sophia’s Walmart ban/remote viewing/Bloody Mary segments.
52:48 – Luna’s scissors and fireball-witch farm story.

Conclusion

Corinne and Sabrina close the episode encouraging listeners who may experience negative supernatural activity to reach out to the Two Girls One Ghost community for support and energetic protection. They invite further stories, especially those explaining or demystifying Mexican witch legends.

Sabrina: “The desperate desire to have empathy and understand human beings is aching. I need to know. I want to understand…”
Corinne: “But also happy to be seated right here and have not experienced that so far.”
– (56:55–57:00)

[End of Summary]