TJG: Monday Summer House News Catch Up & Bravo Upfronts!

Summary

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Two Judgey Girls: Monday Summer House News Catch Up & Bravo Upfronts!

Hosts: Courtney (Los Angeles) & Mary (Bay Area)

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

Courtney and Mary return for a Monday catch-up, diving deep into the latest Summer House drama, Bravo Upfronts announcements, and all the messy realities unfolding in their favorite TV universe. The episode is rich with insider tea about Bravo-lebrities, casting rumors, behind-the-scenes gossip, and breaking news about upcoming seasons and franchise expansions. If you want a comprehensive pulse on the latest developments (and scandals) in Summer House and the wider Bravo-verse, this one’s packed with revelations!

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Key Discussion Points

1. Personal Catch Up & Weekend Recaps

[03:52-05:20]

• Mary recaps her first Mother’s Day: "I woke up at 8 am which was wonderful that was sleeping in. Michael made me waffles and he was just on Charlie duty all day..." (04:02)
• Courtney shares her Vegas experience: "It was like one hundred five degrees and we were at a pool party on Saturday… I can't go in the water because I don't know what's in there… everyone is sandwiched in there… I don't even think it's a refreshing dip…" (04:43)

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2. Summer House & The Lindsay-Carl-Kyle Saga

[05:20-07:24]

• The hosts gush over Vulture party photos:
  • "Lindsay was looking stunning… this white dress… she looked great." (05:58–06:08)
  • Memorable Moment: "Kyle Cook was the DJ and at one point Lindsay and Carl are behind there. It's the three OGs… nature is healing." (06:16)
• Buzz about Lindsay and Carl reconciling and being seen together at multiple events, sparking fan hope for renewed friendships.
• "I think she’s listened to the fans and knows what the fans want… to see a reconciliation, to see people moving forward." – Mary (06:32)

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3. Sierra’s Stunning Reunion Look

[07:13-08:15]

• Hosts are shocked by the drop of Sierra’s reunion look:
  • "Sierra is angelic in this two-piece white outfit... her hair is tinted red... She looks absolutely stunning." – Courtney (07:13)
  • "We both thought she was gonna wear black, complete opposite… everything about this look is flawless." – Mary (07:46)

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4. The West & Jen Fessler Bombshell

[08:15-16:27]

• Main Event: Sierra’s viral comment reveals West and Jen Fessler slept together:
  • Sierra’s post: "Burn it all to hell... lol because they slept together too." (08:48)
  • Mary: "A thousand percent you think Sierra’s just going to drop out of nowhere some lie? ... one million percent happened, you can't convince me otherwise." (09:02)
• Circumstantial evidence & old footage:
  • Hosts reference footage of Jen and West being very flirty and touchy at Bravo events, and Jen referring to West as her “hall pass”.
  • Mary recalls, "[Jen] posted a wedding photo, captioned: 'You could hook up with West or Amanda and I'd still be with you', which is like... really strange." (11:22)
• Denials & social media fallout:
  • Jen Fessler and West both deny the rumors.
  • Jen’s serious Instagram statement threatening legal action:
    • "It is not nice nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue and defamatory..." – read by Courtney (13:48)
  • Sierra doubles down with Lisa Barlow ‘I’m shaking’ gif and more cryptic posts.
• Compounding rumors:
  • "At one point Sierra said to Wes: 'No more hooking up with other Bravo liberties.' We thought this meant Mia or maybe Sally – didn’t know it included Jen Fessler!" – Courtney (15:15)
• Mary: "There's a lot of evidence. Okay, this happened. I personally kind of love it… it actually tells us who he really is: he's capable of anything with anybody." (16:10)

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5. Cast Fallout & West’s Place on the Show

[16:27-17:29]

• The cast’s unified discomfort with West due to mounting “evidence” and drama.
  • "It sounds like they don't have room for him… Carl… like, he hasn't talked to him, Lindsay said there's more room to move forward with Amanda than there is with Wes..." – Courtney (16:27)
• Mary speculates: “Is there a world where Wes could be blackballed from the show?” (17:21)

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6. Sierra’s Career Explosion & Summer House Season 11 Speculation

[24:28-26:19]

• Sierra announced as co-host for Love Island USA: After Sun and confirmed for Dancing With The Stars, creating scheduling questions for Summer House.
  • "That's huge! ...I don't know if that leaves room for Summer House; she's booked and busy..." – Courtney (24:28)
• Discussion of “missing” weekends but confirming Sierra is still returning to Summer House.

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7. Are West and Amanda Still Together? Reunion Preview Fallout

[26:19-29:16]

• Reveal: West has had a girlfriend (Mayha, “the Montana girl”) since February 2025; Amanda’s expected to meet West’s parents soon.
  • Mary: "I'm not convinced they're together right now… after the reunion, maybe things were put into perspective..." (27:09)
• The hosts analyze public sightings, social media clues, and the complexity of defining who's actually together.

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8. Should West and Amanda Return for Another Season?

[29:16-32:27]

• The ethics and entertainment value of bringing them back:
  • "I want to see everyone come back because I just think it would be interesting to watch..." – Mary (29:29)
  • Courtney speculates about a "weekend of awkward" to deal with the fallout and possible resolutions for West’s place in the group.

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9. Bravo Upfronts: Major Shows & Announcements

[40:16-45:14]

• Rapid-fire rundown of returning series:
  • "Summer House season 11… confirmation… that’s big" – Courtney (41:50)
  • Others: Married to Medicine, Southern Charm, Top Chef, Potomac, New York, New Jersey, and more.
• Summer Premieres & New Shows:
  • Below Deck Med, McBee Dynasty, Next Gen NYC (with speculation about cast shake-ups and new relationships), OC, RHONY: Next Gen, RHUGT: Roaring 20s (43:58–44:44)
  • Mary: "The trailer looks fantastic… makes me very excited…"

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10. Lisa Vanderpump’s New Show & New Bravo Franchises

[45:14-47:03]

• Announcement of Vanderpump Rules: Lisa’s Las Vegas docuseries, focusing on her new hotel.
  • Courtney: "It sounds more almost like a docuseries and not VPR… limited series, behind the scenes dash…" (45:38)
• “Secret [Lives/Lies] Texas Wives” working title—hosts liken it to Hunting Wives and express hope for an authentic family vibe.
• Announcement of Bravo Fan Fest – a smaller, Charleston-based Con in October (48:20)

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11. Peacock Digital Series & Vertical Spinoffs

[49:15-50:46]

• Madison LeCroy and Heather Gay's daughter both get digital unscripted series (Peacock), with Mary hoping for an authentic, uplifting touch ("like the new Tabitha" or "Queer Eye"). Courtney pines for more business-focused spin-offs.

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12. Beverly Hills: Dorit & PK’s Financial Drama

[51:18-55:28]

• Recap of PK releasing Dorit’s financial records, showing wild luxury spending and mortgage neglect; speculation on behind-the-scenes motives and relationship with Bravo production.
  • Courtney (reading from TMZ): "PK’s lawyers… claim Dorit has spent crazily… from October [2025] to January [2026]… $68k at Louis Vuitton, $70k at Chanel, $38k at Hermes..." (52:33)
  • Mary: "All these expenses could actually be for Phoenix and Jagger as well… but wow." (54:26)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Nature is healing." – Courtney, on Lindsay, Carl, and Kyle together again. (06:16)
• "Burn it all to hell… because they slept together too." – Sierra, in a viral social media response. (08:48)
• "I think it's actually a very good idea: Take it to the grave." – Courtney, on West and Jen denying the hook-up. (14:39)
• "He's for the streets, that's for sure." – Courtney, describing West. (16:27)
• "I want to see everyone come back because I just think it would be interesting to watch..." – Mary (29:29)
• "Booked and busy, baby, booked and busy." – Courtney, about Sierra’s career (37:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mary’s Mother’s Day & Courtney’s Vegas recap: 03:52–05:23
• Summer House Vulture Party & Lindsay-Carl: 05:20–07:01
• Sierra’s reunion look: 07:13–08:07
• West & Jen Fessler Rumor Explodes: 08:15–16:27
• Fallout for West and cast dynamics: 16:27–17:29
• Sierra’s bookings, Summer House speculation: 24:28–26:19
• West/Amanda reunion & relationship analysis: 26:19–29:16
• Should Amanda/West return?: 29:16–32:27
• Bravo Upfronts (Show renewals, premieres): 40:16–45:14
• New Bravo shows (Lisa's Las Vegas, Texas Wives): 45:14–48:20
• Bravo Fan Fest Charleston: 48:20–49:15
• Peacock Digital Series: 49:15–50:46
• Dorit & PK financials: 51:18–55:28
• Most shocking news & what’s next: 55:42–56:41

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Closing Thoughts

The episode crackles with speculation and laughter, but Courtney and Mary’s Bravo expertise anchors every theory in context. They make clear that the Summer House/West & Jen Fessler bombshell was the week’s most shocking revelation, with sweeping implications for casting and storylines going forward. Sierra’s star is rising across the reality TV landscape, and the Bravo Upfronts delivered confirmation that fans are in for an action-packed, shakeup-filled season ahead.

Closing words:

• "Booked and busy, baby, booked and busy." (37:19)
• "See you later, bye!" (56:55)

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[Mary]

welcome back to two judgy girls this is mary from the bay

[Courtney]

and it's courtney from la happy monday how was your first mother's day it

[Mary]

was lovely i woke up at eight am which was wonderful that was sleeping in michael made me waffles and he was just on charlie duty all day and then we went to a four fifteen dinner at equal parts in the city and then we walked and we walked in north beach and we put charlie on the swing second time on the swing you know he's only touched grass like three times which is so

[Courtney]

funny for how many times we have to weekly touch grass

[Mary]

he's definitely a city boy so yeah it was lovely how was vegas vegas was vegas it

[Courtney]

was vegas it was very fun it was hot it was like one hundred five degrees and we were at a pool party on saturday and the way that the umbrellas were where they were like not shading our area so we basically had to spend the time behind because it was so hot one hundred

[Mary]

five in may that's shocking and it

[Courtney]

was like one of those pool parties that i can't go in the water because i don't know what's in there everyone you can't move they're sandwiched everyone is sandwiched in there like you just cannot move and so i don't even think it's a refreshing dip into the water because that pool is also probably in a hot tub mm i see

[Mary]

yeah stayed away you stayed away yeah

[Courtney]

but it was fun and then i flew home and i did mother's day with my mom and i saw the devil wears prada two thoughts i very much enjoyed it i really enjoyed it great yeah great and then because i left friday morning and it was like everything just started to happen and it was a domino effect that then led in today with the nbc upfronts that had so much bravo information but of course i feel like we have to start at last thursday in the timeline of summer house where we had that vulture party for the reality stars yes

[Mary]

lindsay was looking stunning she wore like

[Courtney]

this white dress marilyn monroe but this

[Mary]

like black like bustier maybe would you

[Courtney]

call this little corset underneath her white flowy she looked great but the best moment from that was kyle cook was the dj and at one point lindsay and carl are behind there it's the three ogs they're dancing together lindsay and carl and mia are on the carpet carl's arm is around lindsay nature is healing

[Mary]

i think she's listened to the fans and knows what the fans want and they want to see a reconciliation they want to see a friendship they want to see people moving forward and we're also going to see them talk very soon so maybe that was very healing for her this chat they did

[Courtney]

the pre show for the upfronts together today the two of them obsessed they

[Mary]

were also at like a birthday party this weekend together they were at some

[Courtney]

event where gemma was present right because

[Mary]

there's this one photo where lindsay is looking up at carl while holding gemma and kyle's on her side and everyone's freaking the fuck out and then at

[Courtney]

one point too there's a photo of carl high fiving gemma and it just there's something about their friendship that he could be uncle carl it's cute it's cute i i think it's very cute but let's talk about so on friday bravo drops sierra's reunion look and sierra is angelic in this two piece white outfit it's like very pearly it's kind of this bra long maxi skirt vibe her hair is tinted red she looks

[Mary]

absolutely stunning we both thought she was gonna wear like black complete opposite it is beautiful and i mean the wave in her hair is absolutely stunning everything about this look is flawless and i'm like this seems like a not sitting dress but for sierra it can be

[Courtney]

a sitting dress i literally said this is so rude because she's gonna sit

[Mary]

and look fantastic i know it's crazy

[Courtney]

it's so i i loved it but let's talk about what really dropped on friday because josh the roni stand he posted on threads and he said former new jersey friend of jen fessler was asked by page six about the summerhouse scandal tonight and said this about west west is the cutest sweetest golden retriever puppy dog he does not mean any harm he didn't mean it he's just trying to have a good time he doesn't want to hurt anyone give him a break so that was posted thursday friday sierra says burn it all to hell and she responds lol because they slept together too the internet goes wild

[Mary]

courtney's like is this true i'm like a thousand percent you think sierra's just going to drop out of nowhere like some lie and like with jen fessler this one million percent happened you can't convince me anything different and the responses by west and jen fessler are hysterical to me because it clearly happened and then people going back and showing all this footage of west and jen together

[Courtney]

is actually insane so someone also comments on that thread is like what i thought she was like married and she responds i thought so too cartwheel emoji she said i don't give an f right now i when they go low i go high i don't think so anymore i do not think so so things that were then put out that people were digging up from it there is a clip from twenty twenty four and i want to say it was a summer house viewing party or it was one of those like watch parties by bravo it was jen fessler lisa milan from dubai and west those were three of the stars that were there and at this watch party there's a video that jen fe has posted and she and west are drunk and she's eating pizza while she's having her talons grip the table those little toesies gripping and the two of them they're vibing

[Mary]

well he has her hand around her and i remember seeing this video and i was like this is quite strange jen foster's also on jeff lewis a

[Courtney]

lot she's on on wednesday of this week mary so please give us an update of course she would be because

[Mary]

she's going to keep on denying this which it happened i'm sorry it happened

[Courtney]

so from that watch party event there were actually quotes too from lisa milan being like i had to remind wes three times i'm married wow so i just think it's funny so then another watch what happens live clip pops up and it's jen and it was jackie and jackie reveals that west is jen's

[Mary]

hall pass yes and she says something

[Courtney]

different and then there's a clip from west on a watch what happens live where he talks about that he's hooked up with a lady in her fifties and people are starting to piece together these little things it's it's insane then

[Mary]

also also talk about her wedding photo

[Courtney]

that she posted i was just gonna bring up i was just gonna bring that up mary because she captions it you could hook up with west or amanda and i'd still be with you

[Mary]

which is like what i remember because i follow her i remember seeing that and i was like that's really strange all of these things the pizza video was really strange because they were both so intoxicated in it and i thought it was just like a weird video i was shocked she posted it it's

[Courtney]

a weird caption though to even post like you could hook up with west or amanda and i'd still pick you but it's like almost as if she's like i want to be involved in the mess now the reason i ask is it true because what the fuck it's that bravo name generator again which does this count as a prediction mary even if it happened years ago yes and then i started thinking she was never even an actual housewife right she was always a friend of yes and

[Mary]

she is so sad because she's not coming back to new jersey like she's been talking all about like how she's so devastated to not be a part of the show anymore then i'm like wait sh they haven't picked up cameras

[Courtney]

like it starts tomorrow filming starts tomorrow imagine a last minute contract goes out

[Mary]

today i mean it makes her more interesting because she definitely hooked up with

[Courtney]

him this is so crazy because as the commenter said isn't she married and you had talked about before that they had both cheated or something well she

[Mary]

openly said on the show that she had like caught her husband with indiscretions i don't know if she had actually done anything but they separated for some time so this wasn't shocking to me in terms of the marriage part of

[Courtney]

it i guess people are saying too like from james gandolfini to west the

[Mary]

range west is at a wedding in savannah this weekend without amanda he's seems to be in the wedding he's been wearing a tux he gets word of it and he puts up you know like those memes like oh i have no idea what's going on how can happen yeah like and denies it and tags her and i'm like okay interesting

[Courtney]

news to me at jen fessler mm

[Mary]

immediately denying and then jen on saturday morning like puts up like a pretty serious story do you want to read

[Courtney]

it yeah in all seriousness and while i can't help but be a little flattered it is not nice nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue and defamatory on social media regardless of whatever rumors or apparent evidence led you to that conclusion that is the definition of libel if it were true i would have no recourse because it's a lie this can get more complicated having said that i hope that we can rectify this it's enough now so two things i take from that one that she's going to threaten a lawsuit on sierra which the discovery process of that would be pretty fun except that you're a public figure and then you'd also have to prove that sierra definitely didn't know that was true she's trying to

[Mary]

scare her for sure and trying to make this go away i'm not shocked that both of them are both denying it i think it's actually a very

[Courtney]

good idea take it to the grave

[Mary]

yes it this feels like a take it to the grave moment and jen fessler's daughter's like chiming in she's saying no no no no it didn't happen it a thousand percent happened but if

[Courtney]

it didn't happen she does have the right to defend her in that now sierra's response to this was she posted a gif of lisa barlow saying i'm shaking i'm physically shaking she also posted an instagram story again of a cartwheel emoji because she doesn't care because then i started thinking too okay at one point sierra said to wes no more hooking up with other bravo liberties that's true this meant mia we thought this meant sally we didn't know it included jen fessler it's so so wild but

[Mary]

it definitely happened i don't have a

[Courtney]

doubt in my mind she had him on her podcast they were very flirty and it's just like there's too much circumstantial evidence to lead us to believe this was true then there was also this podcast i believe it's yacht mess podcast it was daisy from below deck and someone else this is from a couple of years ago where he has a rumor of a jersey housewife hooking up with a summer house star or something and then they basically confirmed that this is the couple they were talking about hashtag team sierra there's a lot

[Mary]

of evidence okay this happened i personally kind of love it and it actually completes the story more for me and actually tells us who he really is like he's capable of anything with anybody

[Courtney]

he's for the streets that's for sure because at the vulture thing too and today when carl and lindsay were on the pre carpet doing the interviews for the upfronts is the cast is really done with west it sounds like they don't have room for him and i think because of the sneak peek clip that we got today at the upfronts for the reunion this is probably why like as more and more evidence starts to come out of things that carl like he does not have any room for wes he's like i understand people mess up but no like he hasn't talked to him lindsay today said she's trying to find time to sit down with amanda carl kind of adds on to that of like there's more room for us to move forward with amanda than there is with wes nobody's responded to his texts so i do think especially from that podcast clip last week is that maybe he's trying to figure out how to save his job but as these other details start to come

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out you're just like so is there a world that wes would be blackballed from the show let's take a break

[Courtney]

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[Courtney]

well let's talk about some big announcements that came out today because i think that could also impact what happens with the show so sierra today was announced that she will be placing maura higgins on love island usa after sun she's going to be co hosting with teffy who i also love that's huge that usually films from beginning of june to mid july then sierra also obviously has dancing with the stars that starts in september and so in my mind i thought i don't know if that leaves room for summer house she's booked and busy that would be a lot but it sounds like she will be returning to the summer house so

[Mary]

she'll be a couple weeks late because they start fourth of july weekend if she's back mid maybe she misses like the first weekend or two yeah i

[Courtney]

think it's like two the first two weekends she would miss now maybe they also maybe in the schedule too is that they're co hosting but separately so maybe sierra doesn't do the last two

[Mary]

weeks what if they got their first summer house trip ever and they all went to fiji not happening but the

[Courtney]

singles are just the house and they all have to couple up with each other so that got me to speculate this morning and i was like okay let's say sierra was done with summer house obviously it seems seems like she's not is there a world which the rest of the cast all returns would you want to see amanda and kyle and west all having to interact with each other in my mind i do because you have the reunion now that with time that has gone by like the reunion's like we want that but you have the reunion do you want to see and maybe it's the first two weeks sierra isn't there is there some sort of like bow to wrap up the story or see where they're at or if they're not even together anymore what are your thoughts okay i

[Mary]

feel like the reunion preview is the hard evidence that wes was in a serious relationship with someone he's had a girlfriend since february of twenty twenty five and i'm like that is new news

[Courtney]

i and that's mayha the the horse

[Mary]

the montana girl yeah and okay so that's actually fact now for me so how is amanda going to defend that too and then there's like these rumblings that amanda is going to go meet wes' in two weeks hire madison he

[Courtney]

threads yesterday and he's like can i be messy yeah and he says that he was at a friend's birthday party over the weekend and a friend of his brought a friend it was amanda amanda said she's going to go meet wes parents in two weeks see i

[Mary]

not convinced they're actually together right now because we haven't had a sighting in a a while and i imagine after the reunion things were put into perspective since west hasn't been on social media and such so i can imagine him kind of pumping the brakes on this a little bit i'm not convinced they're

[Courtney]

together still we're obviously only going off of the tidbits that we see so i think like everyone as fans has perpetuated what we think and it's like when we go back to that joint statement it's like they joint statement said we were hooking up and got caught and now we have to figure out what we are like that was the underlying message right that we took from it at least yes and then obviously they did the yankees game where we see them kiss but are they together in that point are they friends who are just hooking up like we don't know the depth of whatever this is obviously i said from vibes i think that they're over but i don't know if that's trying to like save your career or keeping things at bay or if it was never that serious to begin with kyle met west's parents right

[Mary]

i don't think he would have a girl come meet his parents after what happened with sierra but maybe i'm wrong

[Courtney]

they've already all met his parents because there was like a premiere party or like a reunion there was a group summer house party that west's parents were at because sierra posted a photo with them and i believe his dad posted it on instagram i like vaguely remember this yeah so i'm like i think that they've all met but then i was thinking then i went crazy because i'm psycho and i was like what if she's meeting the parents in two weeks for them to have a sit down and say what the are you guys doing it's an intervention no or

[Mary]

what if it's filmed it's like filmed before they're going into the summer house oh my god because that would be like june almost june a precursor yeah

[Courtney]

like i just wonder if there is a world where wes and amanda come back because i understand people not wanting them to come back in a way because we don't want to give like more attention to this but i'm also like the reunion now that they know how everybody feels and that they're seeing it like is there a space for them to have to deal with the consequences of their actions in a different

[Mary]

space i want to see everyone come back because i just think it would be interesting to watch so and i i actually hope that west and amanda are together even if they weren't actually together i wonder if she would still defend him though and be friendly with

[Courtney]

him yeah i mean that's the whole thing is it's like the craziness of having to be it's like obviously we had that vanderpump rule season i get that and that whole thing but i was like well if sierra wasn't there because i also think sierra should have control too if like i don't want her to put herself in a situation she does not want to a part of she's obviously like dealt with enough of this but then there's also like the separation of kyle and amanda and having that and then like being able to be slightly removed from it because i think too the clip that was shown at the nbc up fronts today was kyle and sierra having proof right as you mentioned that there was this girlfriend the rumor is is that if wes and amanda hadn't come clean about what was going on with them that sierra was going to bring this to

[Mary]

the reunion because they had been hooking up and he had been cheating on this girl sierra and her yeah i

[Courtney]

don't yeah i'm not sure what the whole situation was there but remember there was like rumors that she knew something was going on between the two of them and so then i just think like what like so far removed be knowing how they feel where things are is there a weekend of awkward where they deal with the fallout of it all would you want to see this like for people to say we don't want that to be put on everybody who's been dealing with it it's like yeah except for the fact that we've all been following the scandal and as viewers do you want to see more of that and you don't have to want to see more of it but i just feel like we've all been so engrossed in this and maybe we'll watch the reunion too and say oh we don't need anymore i also don't

[Mary]

think they even know who the cast is going to be because it's going to be based on the fans reaction from the reunion well and the in

[Courtney]

the city which was supposed to move and graduate some of our summer house cast is there enough people on that cast of one hundred to do the show and maybe like lindsay stays there or what the next iteration is because there's just like it's so much this

[Mary]

situation almost gave this old cast more life to be on summer house longer like with all these exact same players

[Courtney]

yes that's like you could bring the entire cast back and we could still have a summer or even a couple of weeks it's like maybe you only give them a contract for a couple of weeks so that there's a weekend where everybody deals with it and then they're off the show go we need

[Mary]

some resolution with west i think and whether the resolution is like we don't want to be your friends we're done with you that's fine that can be

[Courtney]

the resolution and maybe that happens in

[Mary]

the reunion and i want to see

[Courtney]

that though play out yeah in in a different space than a reunion setting i think you want to see them like organically i put quotes around around organically but like in a weekend where it's like we're having a house meeting

[Mary]

even it's when maybe doesn't even get a contract but he has to come to the summer house and have a dinner and sit with the group that feels like a little bit more realistic than him being signed up for the entire summer yeah i'm curious him and jesse's relationship right now because that's obviously his best buddy in the house you're

[Courtney]

seeing jesse tonight you're seeing him tomorrow will you be throwing your bra at

[Mary]

the concert those are too expensive no

[Courtney]

way i know they really are i keep seeing the videos and it's making me laugh because whoever's doing it at the show shows like it's so silly

[Mary]

how many bras are thrown a show

[Courtney]

that's a great question because it feels like after the first one maybe only in like the encore song could you really do more bras or is it like a bra a song or is

[Mary]

it like one person does it and then like seven more go you know those bras are ratty you know these girls are they're not wearing them no they're it's their old bras that they're like i haven't worn this in two years and they're throwing it up there and like a wire poking out there's holes the nastiest bra you ever saw

[Courtney]

the clasps are going every which way because you've just tried to like get it on so many different times the strap has like broken off of the main part of it but he's feeling good well if you had the opportunity would you ask him where do you stand with west i'd love to does

[Mary]

he do a q and a i

[Courtney]

don't think he does no i'm just saying if you happen i don't know maybe maybe you stage door at the end and you wait there hey

[Mary]

i bring my two judgy girls mike hey

[Courtney]

can i get a comment you're like the guy who kyle keeps running into it's like because kyle ran ran into him again before the vulture party too i was like this guy is everywhere wait that guy also tom sandoval was in new york over the weekend and ran into tom too this guy he really always happens to be in the right time right place face he sure

[Mary]

does also kyle cook everyone's calling him benjamin button he looks fantastically recently it's amazing that skin drop your skin care

[Courtney]

routine kyle he said it's like neutrogena and cetaphil it's so freaking rude it's the face wash and a lotion wow i know and he he isn't even

[Mary]

a hat guy you know because i feel like people that wear hats all the time have better skin because their face is covered so less sun damage but he's not even a hat guy

[Courtney]

i'd say he wears a lot of

[Mary]

hats well yeah i mean a dj a ceo a reality tv star a dog father an ex husband yeah he

[Courtney]

wears some hats also friday too we have to mention it's like amanda posted a photo because she's trying to come back to instagram so she posted another story and like the dollar it's unnecessary just stay silent i just i everything that's happening like there's so much i think it's so cool that sierra got this after sun gig i think that's going to be huge for her she's so close to a million followers i

[Mary]

mean talk about a girl being booked and buzzy you have a huge opportunity outside of bravo still in the nbc universal family but then you're now doing dancing with the stars i i i feel like she could go very very far she's gonna take it super seriously they're gonna be able to like do crazy flips and jumps thank god we watched dancing with the stars already it's our favorite show i mean she's just i'm so happy for her i also

[Courtney]

think too is i think that the cast is going to be a really fun cast that they'll all bond together by the way when i saw devil wears prada before the movie started there was an old navy ad and it was the sierra old navy it was like one of the shorter ads but she was there and i was like oh my god she's literally everywhere and i was like this is brilliant because nbc is smart it's like ariana took love island because she said i want to sit with you and watch love island you don't want to do that with me tom she gets the hosting gig now sierra has this opportunity and it's like why wouldn't she take these opportunities it's like she's been asked and she's taking advantage of this she's making lemons into lemonade it is so cool to see her thrive like this and i'm really excited for her future and if she's doing that it's like we're going love island to summer house to dancing with the stars her summer is

[Mary]

fun she's gonna be exhausted but booked

[Courtney]

and busy baby booked and busy okay should we take one more break and then start talking about all the things that were announced today yes

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

okay so bravo up fronts this is like that big advertising thing that they do to talk about new shows get people excited for what the slate is for bravo we got a lot of shows

[Mary]

that are returning okay returning rory season two thank god the valley persian style season two we have another wife swap the real housewives edition season two that that was kind of a little bit shocking what did you think any predictions of who will be coming on i

[Courtney]

think they're going to do a rhode island housewife oh maybe kelsey well who's she swapping with for a husband well billy i guess i was thinking liz

[Mary]

maybe okay i am thinking gina gina for sure orange county why for sure

[Courtney]

i i just think that oh okay i think that they might do a miami housewife oh and that's like kind

[Mary]

of a a re entry point to

[Courtney]

keep people excited gertie would be fun

[Mary]

then we have below deck down under season five god those below decks there's so many of them then we have married to medicine season thirteen southern charm season twelve summer house season eleven salt lake city season seven top chef season twenty four i've been watching this recent season it's not capturing me below deck season thirteen potomac season eleven new york season sixteen new jersey season fifteen and watch what happens live season twenty four

[Courtney]

wow so for me on that list the confirmation even though we knew it was coming but the confirmation of summer house season eleven i think that's big because people are like well maybe it's over obviously we don't think so but i think having that confirmation was good i think a lot of these are already in production we know southern charm is in production right now we know roni melissa and dolores were there today and they said that there's six new women and that filming starts tomorrow and maybe we'll see a jed fessler we know potomac has been filming and so i think for that like seeing those confirmations is great tell us the summer premieres that are coming too because this is exciting for me yes so below

[Mary]

deck med season eleven is june eighth then mcbee dynasty season three is june fifteenth which that feels like it's going to be kind of nuts just because of what's happened currently will you watch

[Courtney]

i don't think it's going to be in there i'll probably dabble in it the trailer came out today i'll dabble

[Mary]

okay next gen nyc season two june twenty fourth i'm really excited about it they gave a super long trailer it looks like hudson is a part of it which is interesting because we knew they like broke up and now they seem like they're currently back together did charlie and ariana hook up you know

[Courtney]

what's weird i feel like i could see those vibes also conspiracy theory based on nothing i think that kyle cook is dating ava ava dash wow remember that there was this like rumor that they were at that dinner a while ago and then when he was djing i think it was the vulture one she was behind the dj set and she was with the other summer house like summer house cast members but i noticed too like right away kyle liked her mother's day post yesterday i don't know why i could see there being

[Mary]

something wow that's a big bold statement i would say okay okay i i

[Courtney]

don't know i don't know it's like again not many of my conspiracies are right but i just think that that there could be something there the trailer

[Mary]

looks fantastic it made me very excited about it to be honest we were all in i think georgia's gonna have a tough second season wait georgia starting

[Courtney]

a cleaning product line because she didn't wash her hands is hilarious i also like that we're kind of breaking the fourth wall we start with a lot of different bravo people talking about stuff that are going on like bravo content creators and so i was like oh okay we're breaking that fourth wall a little bit we've got brooke shields daughter that's joining ro a new guy named liam that is joining it looks very good to me i love seeing riley obviously it looks like is there's might be some tension with ariana and riley because of ariana and gia yeah i'm

[Mary]

i'm not sure i know ariana and riley are besties right now but i'm sure there was a little friction during this season it looks like it's going to be a lot better but go back and watch the first season it was so binge it was yeah i

[Courtney]

loved it and i think the trailer was making me ready it was fun to like hear ben and rani's voice too because they hosted that was the last panel at bravocon for the weekend and they had hosted and so it was fun to hear them in the trailer as well and it looks great so i'm very excited for season two

[Mary]

agreed orange county season twenty drops july ninth and then rugged roaring twentieth is august august ninth so i feel like we have a lot to look forward to and then they announced some new shows vanderpump rules lisa las vegas that's kind of hard to say lisa las

[Courtney]

vegas okay so lisa vanderpump has been ruling over the las vegas strip for years now with three hotspot restaurants serving up chic cocktails in her signature whimsical settings now she is expanding her vegas empire through the opening of her high profile namesake hotel when i was there this weekend the signage is up we went by it it's opening this month i don't think it was open this weekend we didn't try to go but i saw it's the old cromwell it looks good in this limited series we follow the behind the scenes dash to make the property worthy of the vanderpump brand lvp shares what inspired her newest enterprise and pulls back the curtain on the down to the wire drama the series will culminate at the vanderpump hotel's lavish opening party with fan favorite bravo liberties celebrating the launch so it sounds more almost like a docu series and not not vanderpump rules which also was not on the list by the way of returning shows was vanderpump rules even though it has been announced like wasn't it announced a while ago and then two no ladies london oh

[Mary]

i feel like this happened the previous year too so maybe they just haven't like fully

[Courtney]

booked it completely i think and i think a lot of it too is like beverly hills wasn't there and it's technically airing like the next season of the valley wasn't on that so i think a lot of things that are currently airing aren't necessarily announced even though you have like summer house but i think summer house was just kind of a given based on what's happening now

[Mary]

completely completely and then there's something else there's the secret lies texas wives i

[Courtney]

don't like this name of the show because it's too close to secret lives mormon wives for me it does say wt which means working title oh okay okay okay says in the heart of texas hill country is the picture perfect town of born where wealth beauty faith and family reign supreme centered on a tight knit circle of glamorous women the series follows their lives as they raise families run ranches and farms and manage sparkling social calendars in a town rooted in rodeos and tradition behind the polished smiles and sunday sermons however there are intimate relationships and forbidden romances that test loyalties and marriages jeopardizing the town's pristine image and proving that perfection is far more complicated than anyone could imagine hugging

[Mary]

wives but reality okay this is interesting i've never heard of born only eighteen thousand people live there wow it looks like it's outside of san antonio i'm kind of like wishing a little bit of like friday night lights a part of this as well personally like more family i like the like sunday church thing friday nights we go to football just like authentic texas but maybe i

[Courtney]

maybe i'm off this is giving me very hunting wives i didn't watch that based on like the sequence and all of that and the relationships i haven't watched the full scene but i did watch a couple but but i think we have to also talk about one of the main things that was announced today was bravo fanfest charleston it will be at the the version of bravocon a smaller venture it's in charleston it's the weekend of october twenty fourth sounds like a blast we have the southern charm people who are going to be a part of it we're going to have southern hospitality there i feel like there's so many different shows that you could pull in to have other bravo

[Mary]

liberties yes and it seems like june eleventh and twelfth it goes on sale so around the corner in one month yeah wow and it's a saturday day thing and then i think they're gonna have watch what happens live screenings on thursday and friday oh it was also

[Courtney]

announced madison lacroix and heather gay's daughter they're getting these unscripted verticals that are going to be on the peacock app which i'm like where's shane davis's vertical so madison's unscripted is going to be salon based which i'm like does she even work in a salon anymore no i do want to see that like the new tabitha no i was into

[Mary]

this it sounds like you're getting a makeover and kind of talking about your life story i think it's going to be uplifting like a thirty minute situation like a a queer eye and like people are going to have been through some hard times and need to like they let themselves go a little bit and she's going to help them like

[Courtney]

get their gr back and then heather gay's daughter it's called like college confessionals the hold that heather gay has on

[Mary]

bravo they are obsessed with heather gay i mean let's think about it she got reality hot seat she got that mormon show spin off i just think they're in love with her i think she's a smart businesswoman she probably pitched this my daughter she's having a great time at college is it the santa barbara run or the miami one i

[Courtney]

believe it's the miami daughter don't quote me on that though at one point i was into having like a beauty lab and laser spin off like i feel like a lot of the women that have these businesses i would love to see the inner workings of it i do think that vanderpump rules is really cool i mean we love southern hospitality i think that these are really good gateways to get into the next version of reality angie's salon would be

[Mary]

more interesting than heather's beauty lab and

[Courtney]

laser sure give me lunatic fringe yeah yeah yeah i'll take it i'm saying all of these women like i want like a vita lounge premiere spin off as well yeah like i think that a lot of these women have businesses i would love to see go the

[Mary]

next route this also reminds me i feel like we don't know a lot about what happened in orange county this season i think they've done a better job of keeping things under wrap which i really appreciate so we'll probably be getting that trailer pretty soon yeah we

[Courtney]

have to be yeah it seems like they just finished filming though like last

[Mary]

week they had the sky top part party that this last week they wore the sky tops to the last party yeah it's it's tamara vicki heather and shannon they're all wearing sky tops i don't think shannon is so do you

[Courtney]

think this is the party where every housewife comes back that i've been asking

[Mary]

for yes yeah we're gonna have a lot of nostalgia from this season which i'm looking forward to okay tell me about the dorit and pk text though i don't know anything about about this

[Courtney]

so i was gone when all of this started to come out but what i took from it is that pk released his texts with dorit and also that their financials came out and that dorit has spent in like the last six months over five hundred thousand dollars or something in designer clothing okay so she got three items it just seems like dorit's spending kyle might have been on to something

[Mary]

what if like behind the doors kyle has to be right she's like pk if you want to have another season you must release the finances because i have to be right

[Courtney]

okay so let me let me read this there's a tmz article about it okay so the real housewives of beverly hills star dorit's estranged husband pk kemsley claims dorit is spending lavishly on luxury goods instead of paying their mortgage isn't he supposed to pay the mortgage and he says he has the breakdown of how she spent the money money he filed court docs that listed the amount durit spent at each luxury store while he says their la home is close to foreclosure in the paperwork pk's lawyers who apparently obtained the bravo star's bank statements via record subpoenas claim durie has spent crazily from october twenty twenty five to january twenty twenty six specifically the docs say jury spent sixty eight k at louis vuitton seventy k at chicago chanel thirty eight k at hermes twenty one k at a porte twenty two k at saint honoree twenty k at anton jewelry six k at gucci and ten k at shoppel point for a total fashion expenditure of around two hundred eighty seven k pk pointed out that he had four point four nine million in total funds incomes and loans available during the time frame and used forty one percent for family expenses while spending around forty one percent or one point eight million on his personal expenses leaving a small positive balance in his accounts

[Mary]

guys what one point eight in personal

[Courtney]

expenses that's insane yeah in comparison pk's team is saying duri had three point five six million available in funds and spent seventy nine percent on her personal expenses including primarily high end retail wardrobe travel glam and lifestyle exceeding one million in travel and clothing alone own while allocating only around ten percent to family expenses but we do know that she bought jagger five sweatsuits in italy yeah

[Mary]

so all these expenses could actually be for phoenix and jagger as well like the seventy k at chanel she definitely threw in something for the kids maybe

[Courtney]

like a bracelet or a bangle god wow so as tmz first reported pk is pleading with the judge to allow him to immediately list the six million dollar home he once shared with the he moved out of the pad after the split while dorit remains living there pk claims dorit has failed to pay the mortgage and that it's close to foreclosure dorit has yet to respond

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[Mary]

sounds complicated also wouldn't you want to get everything back to zero and then sell it i don't know how that

[Courtney]

works i don't know it sounds like neither of them should be spending any of those type of numbers anywhere those

[Mary]

numbers feel like that should go towards the mortgage feels a lot to be

[Courtney]

spending on personal expenses completely agree and it goes with our thing you don't

[Mary]

need glam definitely do not especially her okay just to round this out what would you say is the most shocking thing that came out this past weekend

[Courtney]

i mean it was definitely just that you know we're getting new shows on bravo obviously it's west and jen fessler hooking up what do you mean is there something more shocking than that no

[Mary]

that that was truly wild that was such a fun friday i had a blast going through that journey what is

[Courtney]

happening and the fact that it could be true or is true whatever it is is like that's insane it's true

[Mary]

and then what show are you most

[Courtney]

looking forward to summer house season eleven of course what about you honestly the

[Mary]

next gen nyc premiere got me really excited about it and that's going to be around the corner so that's my top one right now i need i need to see the rugged and orange county trailer asap i think that the

[Courtney]

vanderpump rules thing is going to be interesting because i am curious how she does all of that i also think as it's said too is like she does have all these vegas properties that there are some hidden gems of people in there that i think we need

[Mary]

to explore more of is garcel's son going to be on it great question

[Courtney]

i guess we'll just have to watch

[Mary]

what happens we will okay fun little monday all right see you later bye

[Courtney]

bye

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