TJG: RHOBH S15 Reunion Part 1 + Part 2!

Summary

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Two Judgey Girls: RHOBH S15 Reunion Part 1 + Part 2!

Date: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Courtney (LA) & Mary (Bay Area)

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Episode Overview

Courtney and Mary reunite for a detailed breakdown of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) Season 15 Reunion Parts 1 and 2. The episode is a lively, candid back-and-forth with plenty of humor and personal anecdotes. The Two Judgey Girls dissect the cast dynamics, drama, and standout moments from the reunion, as well as touch on other Bravo updates, fashion hot takes, and a roundup of reality TV headlines.

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Personal Catch-Up & Weekend Plans

[03:24–09:36]

• Coffee & Food Delivery Fails: Courtney laments a rough morning when her bagel shop delivery arrived sans coffee. Both hosts bond over food order mishaps.
  • “They forgot the coffee. I forgot the coffee. I’ve got the bagel. I don’t want the bagel. I want the coffee.” – Courtney [05:00]
• Plans Ahead: Courtney’s birthday is coming up, but she’s not a “crazy birthday person”—her big celebration is an upcoming Harry Styles concert in Amsterdam. Mary is attending a wedding, rewearing her Oscar party dress, and proudly calls herself an “outfit repeater.”

Notable Quote:
“We love an outfit repeater.” – Courtney [09:09]

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Bravo & Reality TV News Roundup

[09:37–19:17]

• Summer House Update: Brief speculation about Amanda and Wes’ weekend plans and Sierra’s recent red carpet appearance—the fashion verdict is mixed.

  • “Here’s why. It was a sheer lace with like a long train...she had like a black bra with it, but then like nude colored underwear… one or the other needed to change.” – Courtney [10:41]

• Met Gala Correspondents: Sierra and Bronwyn to report for E! at the Met Gala. Courtney claims a prediction win.

• Bravo Scandal Potential: Expressing frustration that RHOM (Miami) is on pause despite big cast developments.

• The Valley: The hosts note the theme song is the best part and laugh over how hate-watching is still viewing.

  • “My bitch wife won’t have sex with me. It’s like the most depressing show ever.” – Courtney [17:06]

• Personal Fandom: Both are excited to attend Jesse Solomon’s show and share fun audience stories.

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Deep Dive: RHOBH Season 15 Reunion, Parts 1 & 2

Social Media, Oversharing & “Gatekeeping”

[27:12–29:47]

• Sophia (Kyle’s daughter) is open about cosmetic surgeries and GLP-1 use on TikTok.
• The hosts discuss the line between healthy transparency and oversharing in influencer culture.

“I think she probably wanted to be, like, honest with her audience and her followers about what she’s doing...but it does feel a little weird that we know so much about so many people.” – Courtney [28:16]

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The Morgan Wade (Un)Naming & Breaking the Fourth Wall

[29:48–36:37]

• The cast doesn’t mention Morgan Wade by name; Andy treads carefully. The hosts suspect favoritism.

  • “If this was anybody else, they would have said, ‘We know you were dating Morgan Wade, can you talk about this?’” – Mary [30:35]

• Andy is notably gentle with Kyle, contrasting how he treats Dorit.

• Fourth Wall Moments: Kyle highlights how much she’s required to share compared to other cast members.

• The hosts agree Kyle’s ambiguity and the deliberate on-air “friendship” with Morgan is ultimately more irritating to viewers than just being forthright.

  “You did throw it in our face, and then you’re trying to make us the idiots. The audience doesn’t like that.” – Courtney [37:07]

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Kyle & Mauricio: Divorce, Denial, and Aspen Stories

[31:58–34:48]

• Kyle theorizes her marriage might have survived without fame or fortune; Kathy calls her “in denial.”
• The hosts side with Kyle on shared agency ownership, but doubt she and Mo will actually finalize a divorce anytime soon.
  • “She was like, well, it’s half of mine...The agency is half hers.” – Mary [32:17]
• Kyle’s retelling of Aspen makes her the wounded party, but hosts are skeptical of her perspective.
  • “He didn’t forget you were there, Kyle...he’s just single.” – Courtney [34:36]

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Kathy’s Jello Diet & Reunion Antics

[39:04–41:20]

• Kathy Hilton’s bizarre “AI Jello diet”—the hosts mock its dubious origin.
• Her phone goes off mid-taping with no repercussions. If Dorit did the same, they joke, Andy would be furious.

“Jello, baking soda. And I believe she said vinegar. I’m like, baking soda and vinegar? What did you expect?...Your stomach is going to blow up.” – Courtney [39:33]

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Dorit vs. PK: Financial Drama & Business Flops

[43:50–45:59]

• The reunion spotlights Dorit and PK’s financial issues, with speculation about Dorit’s actual understanding—or willful ignorance—of their situation.
  • “I don’t know if she’s being advised to not understand the finances so that if this goes to litigation of some sort, she can play that she didn’t know.” – Courtney [45:32]
• Dorit claims she married for love: “When I met PK, he had no money. I married for love.” – [50:12]
• Recap of PK’s bankruptcies and Dorit’s failed ventures (Beverly Beach, tanning, Capri Room).

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Amanda vs. Bose – The New Housewife Dynamic

[42:29–44:14], [56:06–58:57]

• Amanda’s business background and brashness irritate the cast—especially Bose, who defends her “fix-it” CMO career.
  • “Bose is coming at Amanda very hard. I hope Amanda gets a second season because I want to see her just get them all riled up again.” – Courtney [41:29]
• Debate over whether Amanda really shared enough of herself or just leaned into labels and entrepreneurship.

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Reunion Highlights: Erica, Sutton, & Group Lessons

[52:24–55:14]

• Erica is unusually outspoken, shares insights about her failed marriage and emotional abuse.

• The hosts commend Erica’s candidness, see lessons for all the women in each other’s cautionary tales.

  • “Every person on this couch is a lesson to all of them...and yet all of them are like, it’s not going to be me.” – Courtney [53:56]

• Rachel’s package (segment) at the reunion was minimal, reflecting her less dramatic but likable presence.

  • “I really enjoyed her. All she did wasn’t in the drama, but she had fun confessionals.” – Mary [55:17]

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Reunion Standouts & Reflections

[50:41–52:24], [56:06–59:57]

• Dorit’s Reunion Strategy: Mary initially backed Dorit, but finds her reunion aggressive and counterproductive: “She was getting herself so riled up she just couldn’t get out of her own way.” [51:54]
• Amanda’s Future: Both agree Amanda annoyed her castmates but kept viewers entertained, though Mary doubts she’ll be back.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He hates Dorit so much. And she will never have a good reunion because Andy cannot stand her.” – Courtney [30:54]
• “Do you eat, like, sugar free jello with, like, Cool Whip as this dessert?” – Mary [40:19]
• “The talented Mr. Dabrowski. Okay, can we talk about Bose really quick?” – Courtney [41:29]
• “If Kyle threw a manifestation party in her backyard, everyone would be so 100 into it. Amanda hosts it, and they’re like, what am I supposed to do—write in my journal?” – Courtney [58:25]

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Final Thoughts & Closing

[59:57–60:23]

• Courtney and Mary wrap up with which reunion part they preferred and wish all listeners a happy weekend.
  • “There’s something for everyone.” – Mary [60:10]

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Quick Reference: Major Segments & Timestamps

• Personal Catch-Up [03:24–09:36]
• Bravo News & Updates [09:37–19:17]
• RHOBH Reunion Deep Dive [27:12–59:57]
• Amanda vs. Bose Segment [41:29–44:14], [56:06–58:57]
• Dorit & PK Finances [43:50–46:31]
• Final Reflections [59:57–60:23]

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Summary prepared by Two Judgey Girls Podcast Summarizer – capturing every judgment, every Housewives twist, and every bit of wit.

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[Courtney]

Foreign.

[Mary]

Welcome back to two Judgy Girls. This is Mary from the Bay and

[Courtney]

it's Courtney from la. Thank God it's Friday. We really got to bring TGIF back in the mix.

[Mary]

I am ready for the freaking weekend. How are you doing? I. I feel like when we first popped on, I'm like, are you okay?

[Courtney]

I'm not tell you how ridiculous of an issue this is. Okay, sure.

[Mary]

I love a first word problem.

[Courtney]

I need to preface. I am well aware of how insane this is.

[Mary]

Okay, Courtney, this is a safe space.

[Courtney]

Is it? Sometimes I worry it's safe with me. Okay. All of you be nice to me. Okay. I'm having a rough morning already. I go to make myself a coffee. I'm out of my K cups. I'm out.

[Mary]

Oh, no. The worst.

[Courtney]

Now I have nespresso pods. But I go into my fridge. I'm out of my coconut milk.

[Mary]

Oh, no.

[Courtney]

So then I say, I'm gonna be a lazy ass and I'm gonna order coffee.

[Mary]

From where?

[Courtney]

Well, I just got it from like this bagel place down the street. I was like, I'll get a breakfast bagel. My plane with cream cheese. I'm gonna get a bagel. Cause you know you gotta up the number there and I'll get for my coffee. So that way it feels Friday.

[Mary]

Treat for yourself.

[Courtney]

Exactly.

[Mary]

You were out of the coffee. You're like, I'm gonna have the bagel. You can't wait for it to arrive.

[Courtney]

I'm waiting for that. Just like delicious iced coffee. It's like overcast here right now. So I'm like, oh, my God. This is just like perfect. Sometimes I just love an iced coffee when it's cold, you know?

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

So they drop off the delivery and I'm like, yes. I'm so excited. I opened the door, they forgot the coffee. I forgot the coffee. I've got the bagel. I don't want the bagel. I want the coffee. Sure.

[Mary]

I'm.

[Courtney]

So what'd you do? Well, I'm slumming it now with just an espresso pod, and I've added a little extra coffee creamer to it for taste, but it just doesn't feel the same. I'm just like. I feel slighted.

[Mary]

I. Did I ever tell you about the time that I ordered pizza and then I also ordered, like, brussels sprouts and something else, and they didn't bring the pizza? I'm like, that's the main event.

[Courtney]

Like, we ended up. I forget the pizza.

[Mary]

It was breadsticks and brussels sprouts. I'm like, there was two pizzas left behind. We were having pizza for dinner. No, we had breadsticks and brussels sprouts for dinner.

[Courtney]

It was.

[Mary]

It took so long to get anyways, so it was just like, there was nothing to do. And then they just credit you back the amount the pizza was. Well, I wouldn't have ordered breadsticks and brussels sprouts to come to my house without pizza.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Where are my reparations for the pain that you've put me through of not bringing the thing that I ordered? Also was the restaurant you ordered from was pizza in the name of the restaurant.

[Mary]

It's called square pie pizza.

[Courtney]

Okay. No, that's what I'm wondering. Okay. Maybe a restaurant I could see, maybe there are, like, different orders or something. Like, a pizza is in the name. I'm going to be livid for you. I know.

[Mary]

And then they had, like, they. We, like, ordered, like, a bunch of sauces, so we got all the sauces, too. I'm like, great. Dip the brussels sprouts in every single sauce.

[Courtney]

Enjoy.

[Mary]

That's your dinner.

[Courtney]

We're gonna do a taste off with the breadstick. And I know, too, is probably that coffee is sitting. It's like, it's there, nobody's claimed it, and it's just waiting for its home

[Mary]

Now, Courtney, how long of a walk would it be to get this coffee this morning?

[Courtney]

Mary, that's besides the point.

[Mary]

I mean, I do agree with you. Like, you ordered it. It should have come to your home, of course. But, like. Like, for what? Did anything cross your mind? Like, I could just.

[Courtney]

Of course it did. I obviously know I could. Yeah. I have two legs. They are perfectly fine. There's a coffee shop that just opened, and sprouts. I could walk there. That was an easy get. I know. That is Crazy. Like, it is a level of insanity that I ordered coffee when I could have walked.

[Unknown Female Host]

But it's Friday.

[Mary]

You were treating yourself. You didn't want to of bed. You had some homework this morning still to do.

[Courtney]

Exactly. I was like, I don't have time. The dog's gonna freak out. So then I have to, like, get her ready to go. Then we have to do. It was too much. I said, I'm gonna just treat myself. And then they said, this is why you don't.

[Mary]

I'm sorry about that. I. I hope some good fortune comes the rest of your day. What are the plans for the weekend? Because. Okay, so Cordy's birthday is on Tuesday. I always feel like that's, like, a tough day of the week to have a birthday, like a Monday, you know? So, what's. What's the weekend plans?

[Courtney]

I actually don't really have any plans. My main thing is that I'm going to Harry Styles in Amsterdam. That is how I'm celebrating my birthday. And that's in a couple of weeks. I've never been, like, a crazy birthday person. Obviously, I love a day about me. So, like, this weekend, probably grab dinner and drinks, but I'm not doing anything specific for my birthday. I might go shopping, get myself a nice little dress, feel good. But there's no main plans. We've also had just. We had a great week last week, which I felt like was like a pre celebration of being at Bahamar on vacation. This week was a lot. You guys have probably heard from us plenty of times this week. And so I think it's just kind of a relaxing. What's on your agenda?

[Mary]

I got a wedding. I got a wedding tomorrow night. It's my former assistant. I'm so excited for him. Connor and Alice shout out. I'll be a fun guest. Me and Michael are going.

[Courtney]

What is the outfit? Where did you get it from?

[Mary]

Oh, I'm wearing what I wore to the Oscar parties.

[Courtney]

Oh, I love that dress. That was so pretty. The black dress with the floral.

[Mary]

Yeah. I figure, why does. Might as well rewear it, right?

[Courtney]

We love an outfit repeater.

[Mary]

Yes. Yes.

[Courtney]

Okay. I love that.

[Mary]

Well, none of these people have seen that outfit, right?

[Courtney]

No. Also, though, there's nothing wrong with repeating an outfit. It looked great on you. You look fantastic.

[Mary]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Why not wear something? I shouldn't.

[Mary]

I should probably check if it's clean. Too late to send it to the dry cleaners, but.

[Courtney]

But at least you'll know another project. At least you'll know you could have done it.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Okay, let's. Let's talk the news. We've got to round out our week with some stuff here. It's summer house specific, I guess, because it involves Sierra. But for right now, there's no drama.

[Mary]

For right now, there's no updates. I mean, I think Amanda and Wes are going to be on a rooftop this weekend. That's my prediction. I think we're going to get them out on the town possibly tonight. They like to go out on Fridays. They like to celebrate the weekend, you know, their weekend buddies.

[Courtney]

Oh, yeah, No, I know, I know. But when you say it out loud. Oh, wow. Also, my espresso hasn't kicked in yet too, so I might be on a delayed reaction here. Okay. So last night There was the Cult 100 event at the Guggenheim and Sierra was on that carpet. She's one of the most beautiful people. Like, truly. I did not like this look. Here's why. It was a sheer lace with like a long train and it was really pretty. But she had like a black bra on with it. But then like nude colored underwear. And so one or the other needed to change. So it was like the illusion of being completely see through or to show the black of the bra and matching underwear.

[Mary]

Oh, okay. I'm. I see it. I loving her hair, but I wouldn't even say this is a bra. It almost looks like the black part is part of the dress. And then it does look like it's see through at the bottom and you can't see what's going on.

[Courtney]

Right.

[Mary]

I think invisible under.

[Courtney]

They need to like it needed to match.

[Mary]

I see what you're saying.

[Courtney]

That that was all one or the other. It wasn't my favorite, but she looks fantastic still.

[Mary]

I mean, hot, hot, hot.

[Courtney]

I know, I know. And then she was also nominated for a critics choice Real TV award as female star of the year alongside Lisa Rinna, who was also at that event doing her best, like Judy Judson look. Like I felt like she was like gemming the holograms. Her fashion has really taken some risks.

[Mary]

That Rinna and her hair was a piece. There was a lot of product in. Wasn't moving.

[Courtney]

Her bumble and bumble collab maybe.

[Mary]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do. I do enjoy their. That spray that they gave us.

[Courtney]

Me too. They have this really good heat protectant spray. Okay. But the main thing that we have to talk about was that it was announced for being a correspondent for E. Entertainment at the Met Gala.

[Mary]

Sierra and Bronwyn, I mean, not shocked at all. I Would have preferred her walking up those steps. Personally, I think that was a stretch. I guess so. I mean, she will be at the Met Gala.

[Courtney]

I didn't say inside the Met Gala. To be fair, I just said Bravo, love. At the Met Gala in my predictions.

[Mary]

Cardi. Of course I'll give it to you.

[Courtney]

Okay, thank you. Like, she's going to be at the Met Gala, like, inside. I don't know. But she is now interviewing. And look, am I going to stretch it so I can check it off? Of course I am. Of course.

[Mary]

Now it's Bronwyn. Christian Siriano.

[Courtney]

I felt like Bronwyn made sense that she would be there.

[Mary]

Love this transition for Bronwyn. I'm so excited to see her without Todd.

[Courtney]

Oh.

[Mary]

Oh, this is interesting. Word on the street is that SLC is in Hawaii right now.

[Courtney]

Yeah, this is. This is the first Monday of May. She'll be fine.

[Mary]

Oh, we have some time.

[Courtney]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Met is always the first Monday in May.

[Mary]

But that's this Monday, correct?

[Courtney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mary]

So that's like 10 hours.

[Courtney]

Okay. I'm sure she'll be flying first class. She'll be okay. She'll be okay. Will you go see the Devil Wears Prada, too? No. Okay, I'm gonna go see that with my mom. Fine. The Devil Wears Prada might be one of my favorite movies. Like top five for sure.

[Mary]

Oh, not for me at all. But no, no mind. The first two favorite movies are. What about Bomb in the Town?

[Courtney]

Those are quite different movies, though.

[Mary]

I know those are my top two.

[Courtney]

Do you want to know my top two?

[Mary]

Sure do.

[Courtney]

Okay, I'll put Devil Wears Prada up there. But also the talented Mr. Ripley.

[Mary]

Oh, good one. Yes.

[Courtney]

I'll put Call Me by youy Name up there. Oh, God, Call Me by your Name is so good. But it's also one of those movies that. It's not a rewatchable for me, but it's a favorite of mine. The cannibalism. Knowing what we know now, that is tough for a rewatch.

[Mary]

Yeah, I'm not interested in that movie.

[Courtney]

But the talented Mr. Ripley is one of the most beautifully shot movies. And it's just so good. And now I'm like, I gotta watch that today.

[Mary]

I love that for you. My number three is probably like Good Will Hunting.

[Courtney]

Great one. How about them apples?

[Mary]

Mm, yeah.

[Courtney]

Yeah, that's a good you. So it's kind of like anything with Ben Affleck.

[Mary]

No.

[Courtney]

Are you a big Jiggly fan?

[Mary]

Never saw it. Never saw it. And Jennifer Lopez's movies coming out. Is it on Netflix? She wrote it with. It's the guy from, the guy from Ted Lasso. Ted Lasso.

[Courtney]

Brett Goldstein. Also, you know what also looks really good. Sorry, guys, we're just doing a roundup because it's Friday and I need my, my espresso to kick in so I can dive deep on Beverly Hills. You know what looks really good on Netflix? Have you seen the previews for the movie called Apex? It's with Charlize Theron and Taryn Edgerton, who apparently is dating Brooks Nader.

[Mary]

No, but I love Charlize, so I love Taryn. I'm down for anything she does. Wait, this all comes back to Bravo because I saw this thing this morning was like, if you could give a TED Talk on anything. And I think she said Real Housewives.

[Courtney]

I love that question, though. It's like if you had to give a 30 minute presentation on something and you had to fill the 30 minutes, what could you fill it with? I'm like right now, the Summer House scandal. Easily, right? Seasons one through four of Vanderpump Rules. And that would. I don't season one. I could fill 30 minutes with the first episode.

[Mary]

You can fill 30 minutes.

[Courtney]

I could recite season one, episode one from memory. Wait, I love that she said that. What did we say, though? She's on a press tour right now for that movie. They're always being asked about Bravo these days.

[Mary]

It's popular. It's a popular thing to be into guys.

[Courtney]

And it would be really popular if they picked cameras back up for Miami because Larsa and her young boyfriend have broken up. And I want to see what's happening. Which means like Lisa's single, Larsa's single. Alexia's back with Todd and they've bought some $5 million mansion.

[Mary]

I saw that.

[Courtney]

Where are the cameras?

[Mary]

I know, that's, that's very interesting. I, I Michael's asked about Miami in. Andy was like, it's on pause. It's on pause, so we'll have to see what happens.

[Courtney]

Andy was also like, it's not my decision, you guys. Like, please stop coming after me. I think he's getting real sick of it.

[Mary]

I also think it's really funny. Yesterday we posted a reel of us singing and the amount of comments we got on it was actually shocking. So it tells me that people are hate watching the Valley, but they're still watching it.

[Courtney]

I mean, the best part of that show is the theme song because it's like none of them are all right. And you Go from the happy song like, we're all right. And then it's like, my bitch wife will have sex with me. It's like the most depressing show ever.

[Mary]

But I'm more at it's so, so wild. Also, Courtney and I were really excited because we are officially going Jesse Solomon's show. I'm going to San Francisco. She is going to la. We are ecstatic. We are solid women.

[Courtney]

I love that you're in it now. I love that you're in it. He posted this video from one of his shows and he was singing, I'm, I'm feeling good. But at a pause, a girl throws her strapless broads. And so he's like, I'm feeling good. And someone writes, are we sure that's not Courtney's bra? Shut up. I would never waste one of my bras or two expensive.

[Mary]

That's so, so good.

[Courtney]

And I said, that's the literal definition of support right there.

[Mary]

And then last night, Molly came out for her song with him.

[Courtney]

He was in Charleston on his tour and she came out and did a song with him. I love this. I love the cross support.

[Mary]

I am obsessed. Okay, so Courtney's going to the show on May 11th. I will be at the show on May 12th. You can go to justysolomonmusic.com he's going to be in Denver, Kansas City, Chicago, Toronto, Cambridge, New York, Atlanta, Austin. So guys get tickets. Be a solid woman too.

[Courtney]

This has been a big week for you, Mary. Two things. You've turned on Micah from Ladies of London and Jesse Solomon. It's like, what would Jesse Solomon do? Throw a tour and give you a good time.

[Mary]

I mean, I'm a flip flopper. I can admit it. I'm a hypocrite. I change my mind all the time.

[Courtney]

I think it's gonna be a blast.

[Mary]

I cannot wait. I cannot wait. It's gonna be a good time.

[Courtney]

I won't even spoil it for you. Like, we will come back after you.

[Mary]

I was actually, I was thinking the same thing. Like, you can say, look out for this part. Maybe that's it. You know, don't go to the bathroom at that time.

[Courtney]

I'll give you your pee break timings, which is just don't go once the show starts.

[Mary]

Don't, you know, for the Taylor Swift concert, I literally like did not drink a thing for it because I didn't want to miss a second and did not pee like for three and a half hours.

[Courtney]

That's funny.

[Mary]

And on that note, let's take a break.

[Unknown Female Host]

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[Courtney]

Before we get started on the reunion, I wanted to ask about Sophia, Kyle's daughter.

[Mary]

Yeah, so I ran across her TikTok this week and she ended up getting a boob lift. So she's openly talked about being on a GLP1 for about a year now. She said she lost a lot of weight and then gained some back, and I think now has been a standstill. And because of that, she decided to get a boob lift. No implants or anything. Kyle, like, takes her, and it feels like they use the same doctor. Kyle also has done a reduction. I am all about making yourself feel good. Do I maybe want to boob lift? Sure. I feel like her thing was so they were up, and so she didn't have to wear a bra, which I respect. I don't want to wear a bra either. But there was something jarring to me. I don't know. She's, like, 25. Like, and a lot of people get implants at 25 and stuff. But I don't know this. For some reason, I was like, this makes me sad.

[Courtney]

I think it's also. There's a difference of gatekeeping things and then over sharing. And I think she probably wanted to be, like, honest with her audience and her followers about what she's doing, because she probably gets asked these questions all the time. Oh, my God, do you do Botox? Oh, what do you do? Or like, oh, you look so different. And I'm sure that that feels like you want to be honest with people. People share so much of their lives on the Internet, especially in the influencer space, that I think sometimes that line gets blurred of, like, what should I be telling people? And who cares? She might just want to share it because she's like, oh, it doesn't bother me at all. And I would love to take people on the journey and give them the real life of ups and downs, pros and cons, which I think it's great. But it. It does feel a little weird that we know so much about so many people completely.

[Mary]

Once again, turn off your find, My friends. You don't need to know where people are all the time.

[Courtney]

You said something about the summer house reunion, which actually made me think these people have to overshare. And you're like, think about having to give a timeline of when you've had sex with somebody. Like, when you said that. It. That is actually very crazy to have to give your hookup timeline. Like, it. It is. But also, it's, like, weirdly important in this story for them to have to share when it crossed a line.

[Mary]

It's actually insane. No, but their job is to share their personal life. And that brings us to Kyle. So we kind of talk about Morgan without saying her name.

[Courtney]

Like, are we gonna get fined if we say Morgan?

[Mary]

I. Did you notice how nobody said her name. And even Andy was very cautious about what he asked. I feel like he wasn't super tough on her. What did you think?

[Courtney]

It's so interesting because they break the fourth wall a little bit and they talk about what they choose to share on this show. Kyle talks about how other people on this cast have dated other people and never mentioned it on this show. And yet now I'm required to talk about it. I wonder if Andy wasn't pushing because she was actually admitted it. And I think maybe it was almost like, don't push too much because we're getting something out of Kyle about this. Before it was pretty ambiguous. And now I think after the reunion it's definitely been confirmed.

[Mary]

I just think it's ridiculous because he comes so hard at every single person. And if this was anybody else, they would have said, we know you were dating Morgan. Wade, can you talk a little bit more about this? Like there is clearly, I don't know, bias. Yes, absolutely.

[Courtney]

Well, Andy hates Dorit, by the way too. He hates Dorit so much. And she will never have a good reunion because Andy cannot stand her. And he does love Kyle. And I think that, that there is this level of OG Kyle's the longest running housewife. He does have love for the people who have been around for so long. And I think there is a level of respect. So he's unfortunately biased towards Kyle.

[Mary]

Regardless, I think she said a lot of interesting things because I like what Dorit said. Who else on this show made us lie? And Erica comes to Kyle's back, which was interesting.

[Courtney]

Erica's energy during these two parts of the reunions. Did someone tell her she needed to have a word quota? I've never heard Erica talk so much over these two reunions.

[Mary]

Okay, I guess I didn't really notice,

[Courtney]

but she was talking, like, excessively, like coming out defense over and over, was inserting herself with Sutton, was saying things to Amanda the first episode. Just interjecting when she normally does not do that.

[Mary]

I thought it was interesting that in Kyle's head she thinks her and Mauricio would still be together if they didn't have the money, the fame and the traveling. Then they talk about getting half of the agency and Kathy is like, I definitely think you're in denial for not filing. I like what Kyle said. She was like, well, it's half of mine. Yeah, you built the agency on this show because of me. And I've been definitely believe it is half of hers. And I like. Bose's point was like, don't you kind of want to get through this finance stuff before you guys meet someone and are pushed to do that. I am very curious if they'll ever settle this divorce. It feels like they never will.

[Courtney]

Well, she somewhat said what we've been saying is when one of us gets pushed to do it by a partner, that's probably when we'll do it. I also thought it was funny when she was like, if we never had this life, we would be living in veil, acting as if she'd be poor. Vail is a poor place. Like. Like that level. Like, oh, God, we'd be a ski instructor in Vail. I'm like, oh, is that what you would be doing? But, Kyle, you are delusional in here. And I think Sutton was trying to say. I think Erica was trying to say is you think that Mauricio. Mauricio is being nice to you right now. Obviously, there's a level respect. You're the mother of his children. You had 30 years. There is that level. But the fact is, you guys aren't discussing money right now, so your relationship is good. As soon as you start to try to divide the assets, see where the money is, to see where your name is attached and where it isn't. What kind of offshore accounts. Mauricio has already started siphoning money to. It's going to get content. This is a legend. Obviously. It just. This is just in my head, but I'm like, you think you are not like other girls. Your divorce would be so different until. It wouldn't it. It's just, money changes people. Right now, he's not giving up half. You guys are spending your money, and nobody is checking in on, like, who's spending what and doing what because it's easier not to.

[Mary]

And also, they have so much money. I don't think they, like, live beyond their means, either. They. They have enough money to do what they want to do and enjoy life.

[Courtney]

As she told Dorit the first episode, you and I are different financial areas.

[Mary]

Yeah, no, completely. It's weird because I do have, like, empathy for her, and it's, like, sad to see her mourn this relationship. She was like, it was so crazy. I was at this party in Aspen. Rachel was there, and, like, he was acting, like, single. I'm like, I've been married to you for 30 years. It's so inappropriate. She was really hurt by that.

[Courtney]

Did you also think it was funny with that situation where she was like, it's like he forgot I was there. I was like, no, he didn't forget you were there, Kyle. And I don't mean to be harsh. He didn't forget. He's just single.

[Mary]

Right. And Rachel, like, whispering like, he lives a totally different light. I see him out three nights a week.

[Courtney]

Why is she seeing him so often? She sees Mo all the time. It feels like she's seeing Mo now more than when Kyle was married to him, that Kyle was seeing him.

[Mary]

It's a good point. That's a good point. Going back to Morgan, too, because Andy asks, is you staying on the show what led to the breakup? And she's like, no, there was no ultimatum or anything like that. But the thing that bothers me is I can understand someone not wanting to be on the show. You'd start dating someone, and they don't want to be a part of the show. That is actually totally okay with me.

[Courtney]

Is it? But you don't want them on the show. Right? Because Jenna Lyons is dating someone.

[Mary]

No, no, no. But the thing that Kyle and Morgan did is they brought her on the show. Right. So they teased it in front of us and pretended like they were just friends.

[Courtney]

That music video.

[Mary]

Yeah. Like, that's the problem with this situation. I. It is fair. If you start dating someone, they don't want to be a part of the show. That. That's fair. I mean, someone like Kyle Richards who's been on the show for 15 years, I think that is fair. And. And, you know, her life has changed over time. That is fine. But no, Jenna Lyons is different.

[Courtney]

Okay, okay, sure, sure. Because.

[Mary]

Because we don't know. We don't know Jenna yet. You know, and so she has to show her whole life Kyle earned The right after 15 years to say, I'm not going to share all my relationships. But she lost it because she brought Morgan on. You know, there's a lot of rules

[Courtney]

that can be broken that are meant to be broken. Strong opinions loosely held with the two of us. Yes, but.

[Mary]

Do you know what I mean?

[Courtney]

Yes, but if we knew Kyle is dating Morgan, Wade and Morgan refuses to come on the show, I think we'd be angry there, too. Kyle's an adult win. She can't win regardless of. But I think it's also. You did throw it in our face, and then you're trying to make us the idiots. The audience doesn't like that. I think if she had come on the following season and said, hey, guys, I am dating someone, she needed to acknowledge it as opposed to pretend it never happened. And I think that's the problem with Kyle in Beverly Hills. For this moment, if she had just said, morgan doesn't want to be a part of it, and that was a. A known thing, I think the audience would be more forgiving. But to pretend that this was just a friend. And, I mean, she had me fooled,

[Mary]

which was actually creepy.

[Courtney]

But do you know what I'm saying, though, is like, to acknowledge it would make sense. And then, okay, fine. You guys have to do what's right for your relationship. I also love too, when Andy asked dorit, so Dorit, do you think when they aren't filming that they're together, but when they're filming, they're single? And Duri said, well, I don't know, Andy. She's sitting right next to you. Why don't you ask her? Dorit. Dorit was like, on fire, episode one. And then she, like, pissed me off episode two. But that line in specific, I love that because it was like. And then Kyle's response. Kyle's response was like a casual, threatening. Did you feel that? Oh, okay. So she turns. So Andy turns it back to Kyle, and Kyle's talking about how when she was telling her friends, that was in confidence. And, like, if you told me something, I would keep that in confidence. Almost like, if you tell something, I'll tell something. Like using it as.

[Mary]

Yes. Yes.

[Courtney]

As ammunition, in a way. And so for me, I was like, oh, this is like a casual threat. Before we move on to Duri, I also just want to mention, when Kyle was talking about Mauricio, and Duri also asks her to Are you waiting for him? And she said, oh, to file. She said no, to come back. And then Kyle gets a little kind of like pensive thinking about it. And then Kathy's phone rings.

[Mary]

I know.

[Courtney]

I cannot stand this woman. Like, if. And can you imagine if Dorit's phone rang? How much of a lashing Andy would give her?

[Mary]

I know, I know. Kathy gets away with it all. Her and the. The jello diet.

[Courtney]

Okay, I. So I screenshot to Mary a Google search, and I just write, this will make sense to you because it's this AI diet that sounds like they used AI versions of quotes from Oprah, Dr. Oz, all these famous people to promote an AI Jello diet that doesn't actually exist.

[Mary]

And Kathy Hilton took the bait, and she's clearly been having GI issues so bad that she had to change dresses.

[Courtney]

Jello, baking soda. And I believe she said vinegar. I'm like, baking soda and vinegar. What did you expect? Expect your stomach is going to blow up? I would love to know the Mixture, gelatin, baking soda, vinegar. That is insane. Kathy.

[Mary]

You also know that Kathy didn't make it herself. She asked, like, someone on the staff, and they're, like, googling it because this is crazy. And then they're just like, whatever you want, Miss Kathy. Here you go.

[Courtney]

What do you think Kathy's jello flavor is? What's your jello flavor?

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Oh, I hate green.

[Mary]

I hate green. I'm like an orange or red.

[Courtney]

Yeah. I'm like cherry or strawberry. But also, my mom and I love jello. Oh, like, I'll make you.

[Mary]

Do you eat, like, sugar free jello with, like, Cool Whip as this dessert?

[Courtney]

I don't use a cool Whip, but my mom does. She loves Cool Whip.

[Mary]

That is, like, such a 90s dieting hack. Like, my sweet treat at the end of the night, 10 calories for the sugar free jello, and then Cool Whip. Just a dollop.

[Courtney]

Okay, I'm feeling attacked here, Courtney.

[Mary]

It takes one to no one. Like, I know the secrets.

[Courtney]

I know it is really good. I'm feeling attacked here. But honestly, I love it. And you know what? When I watch talented Mr. Ripley, I'm gonna make some jello too.

[Mary]

Have the whole bowl.

[Courtney]

I'm gonna eat the whole thing and maybe some Cool Whip just in honor of my mom.

[Mary]

The only thing I want to have Jello with is shots. And Michael, a red jello shot with fireball. He makes green with tequila. He has, like, a whole thing. Those are the only kind of Jello I want to eat.

[Courtney]

Didn't he do, like, a layered one too, before? Like, the different color jello?

[Mary]

On Pride, he would make, like, a rainbow jello shots. Yeah, yeah.

[Courtney]

God, that Michael, he's talented. The talented Mr. Dabrowski. Okay, can we talk about bows really quick? Because I want to talk about the CMO comment. Bose is coming at Amanda very hard. I hope Amanda gets a second season because I want to see her just get them all riled up again. But Bose has this thing against Amanda where we see the clip that everything Amanda said was correct. In the Vineyard, they're pretending like Bose giving her online classes is charity. I don't think that's connected to a 501C3. I'd like to see the paperwork, but she says, like, on those classes, I do lose money. Amanda says that's exactly what Bose says. And Bose gets so offended. Then we talk about Bose being a cmo, and she's like, well, yeah, any CMO is there for like a year or two, but then the job is actually supposed to be Long.

[Mary]

Contradicting herself for sure.

[Courtney]

Well, so I actually think Bose is a fix it cmo.

[Mary]

Yes. No. Comes in, gets the place where it needs to be, and then gets out, which is fine.

[Courtney]

But I feel like she's not allowed to say that because that would reflect poorly on the companies. Like, she is hired specifically to take the blame, do a couple of things, take the blame, and then move on to the next one. But I feel like she can't say that because Pepsi would be like, we were never a problem. There's nothing wrong here. Yeah, but I did think it was. I was like, bose, I would expect you to have a better answer.

[Mary]

Agreed. And I thought it was very funny when she asked Erica to be the DJ at her Beverly Hills wedding. I'm like, are you asking that as a gift or is she getting paid? It felt weird.

[Courtney]

Also, Erica's your choice, not Meredith Marks.

[Mary]

I actually think Meredith Marks is doing a DJ set in Menlo park, which is, like, very, very funny. That's kind of far from here. It's not far. It's like an hour.

[Courtney]

She's doing, like, a tech convention or something?

[Mary]

No, because I saw an ad for it, so it feels, like, open to tickets.

[Courtney]

Yeah, I'm surprised she's not in San Francisco.

[Mary]

Seth, let me know.

[Courtney]

Why don't you just text him?

[Mary]

We're not that close yet.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Okay. Should we talk about dirty?

[Mary]

Yes. I was shocked to hear that things are better between her and PK right now. What did you think about that?

[Courtney]

I think it's all a ruse on his side. I think he knows what's happening. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyle and Mo were telling him to cool off and to do it and let Dorit kind of hang herself in a way, because he's doing that interview where he's accepting the flaws.

[Mary]

You know, I've only seen clips, and then I saw, like, two T's in a pod also talk about it. And I think it's interesting when Teddy talks about these situations because obviously she was a part of the show at the same time.

[Courtney]

Teddy's also Kyle's mouthpiece, though, and I feel like she talks a lot about what Kyle can't say out loud.

[Mary]

Exactly. Which makes it great.

[Courtney]

Dorit commented on a clip like, I can't believe you used to be my friend.

[Mary]

I did not see that. Wow. Well, it is like, when you start talking about all of Dorit's businesses and you're like, so, yeah, what happened with Beverly Beach? What happened with your tanning stuff?

[Courtney]

The capri room.

[Mary]

The capri room Bucket. What happened with the wedding dresses?

[Courtney]

These are all little cash grabs that pk, I feel set up used Doritos the face of.

[Mary]

But were they even real?

[Courtney]

No, I think they were these quick cash grabs for them to make it. Like, I think they have been living above their means since the beginning. Like, PK knows how to file for bankruptcy. He's done it, right?

[Mary]

No. And then that was interesting for her to talk about the house being in foreclosure. And originally, PK said he would bring it up to date, and then they were going to sell it, and doesn't seem like he can bring it up to date, so.

[Courtney]

And I don't understand what Dorit's doing with that because she still is trying not to understand the finances, and I don't know if she's being advised to not understand the finances so that if this goes to litigation of some sort, that she can play that she didn't know. Like, I don't know what the life of a grifter is and how they run their lives. So, like, for me, I can't figure it out. But it's like he keeps telling you he's gonna get it up to date, and then he does it. So that's a pattern.

[Mary]

Yeah, I think he's erratic.

[Courtney]

Well, yeah, I think so, too. But it's just also, like, at this point, it's like, get rid of the house.

[Mary]

I don't think she's in the position to move and have rent somewhere else when right now, she's living for free at that house.

[Courtney]

But remember, that's in her name, the llc. So everything is dinging. Maybe she can't because her credit's terrible because she's not paying the mortgage on the house. There's a lot of financial stuff that is happening with them that I don't know if we'll ever be privy to. But I'm like, dorit needs the show

[Mary]

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[Mary]

Dorit has come in swing, and to be honest, I am team Dorit, but it's tough to watch at this reunion. Like, she's coming out Amanda. Like, I never outsource my financial well being. When I met pk, he had no money.

[Courtney]

Like, I married for love.

[Mary]

That's just like, a very silly statement.

[Courtney]

He built everything. Like, what did you build?

[Mary]

Yeah. Andy was so frustrated with her. When Dorit says, apologize for what Andy? When they're talking about the Sutton stuff. And in Erica too, Andy is, like, losing it. Have some grace, lady. You should be apologizing a little bit. I love when he keeps gets riled up at the reunion because Dorit's bothering him.

[Courtney]

Well, because she's so loquacious. Okay. That woman talks, and it takes forever for her to get to her point. And she's not necessarily wrong, but because it's talking over everybody. Like, even when she and Kyle were going at it, I was like, dori, take a second. Let Kyle say what she wants to say. Because Kyle did set herself up with saying, we haven't been friends for two years.

[Mary]

Yeah, right.

[Courtney]

Like, she set herself up, and then you were able to jump on that. And if you had been quiet and let Kyle talk that whole thing and then say it, you could have won that argument saying that retort right back to her. But because you're talking and talking and nobody can get a point in like I'm doing to you right now, it's really difficult. It's really difficult to get your point across and win.

[Mary]

No. Even the Sutton Dorit situation, when they're talking about Sutton not coming to her book cover thing. And. And it. It's like, Sutton almost won this argument because Kathy's like, did you care that Sutton wasn't there? Would you have liked her to come and bash your book like you did to my fashion show? And I'm like, ooh, like, that's a valid point. Yeah. If you show up and trash it, then what's the point of coming? So Sutton just removed herself from the situation.

[Courtney]

Yeah. But I think drury could have just, like, sat there and taken it because, yes, the analogy that andy gave was great, but at the same time, dorit could have been like, here's the problem I had was that it felt actually very pointed, you and erica getting together that same day. Erica, you not messaging me to let me know she could have played that card, but she was getting herself so riled up that she just, like, was seeing red and couldn't get out of her own way. And it's frustrating because it's like, dorit, you had the season. I To me.

[Mary]

To me, I was team dorit in this reunion. Is kind of like, making me reconsider, actually, at the beginning when erica was like. Like, she's like, I don't think we'll be repairing this today. She like, she had no hope. And then we come to find out erica is, like, most pissed at dorit at the table in italy when she's like, you were like, basically saying, I have to do this to, like, save my job, you know?

[Courtney]

Why do you think she clocked in for the reunion? Was dorit wrong?

[Mary]

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, but we cannot discredit, get erica sharing so much. I thought her package was super interesting.

[Courtney]

When they open up, Mary, when they say her husband's been in jail, they keep this hole open, and everyone's like, who are we talking about but her

[Mary]

talking about the DV situation, talking about tom being emotionally and financially abusive, didn't talk to her for six weeks, scared to be on camera with him, talking about not going to broadway, not reading the book. I mean, I feel bad for this woman, and I'm very excited that she has john. It seems like a really healthy relationship that she feels really secure in. Her son is into it. So I'm rooting for her. I feel like she has a lot coming up with this $25 million lawsuit. I mean, she's. She really is a survivor. That sounds lame, but it's true.

[Courtney]

She has to be. What else can she do, too? I wish these girls could see how every person on this couch is a lesson to all of them.

[Mary]

Tell me more.

[Courtney]

Okay, so, like, dorit, look at what happened to erica. She lost it all. Okay. Which I also. That's why I wish that erica and dorit could get along better, because I feel like erica had that season where she claimed she was mixing alcohol and pills or whatever, and she had that season where she, like, went off. It's just has gotten to the point where it's, like, too much for them. And you're either team Kyle or you're team dorit. But Erica lost it all. Okay, Watch what happens there. Okay. Hey, Sutton went through this divorce and she did the forensic, and I was Kyle. You could take a lesson from Sutton Durie. You could take a lesson from Sutton. Okay. It just. Everyone has something that one of these women can learn from, and yet all of them are like, it's not going to be me.

[Mary]

Yeah, that's very true.

[Courtney]

You know, like, Rachel is showing a side of divorce that dorit was looking for. For. And Kyle and I just think that there's so much that I'm like, God, you guys would all be so much better if you could get along as opposed to going against each other because, like, it's bad for business.

[Mary]

This. I was shocked how much Rachel was coming to Dorit's defense in this reunion and that her package was, like, nothing. Like, we barely spoke about her. It was like, talking about Roger and the other girl and, like, commenting about her kids and then, like, saying she's dating someone named Sasha. And that was it.

[Courtney]

Then I thought, that is kind of all she gave us.

[Mary]

But I really enjoyed her. I I. Oh, she did. Wasn't in the drama, but she had, like, fun confessionals. And you were fascinated by her.

[Courtney]

We only knew Roger 15 years ago.

[Unknown Female Host]

True.

[Courtney]

When they were together. So it's like, if you don't know Roger, then we're playing with this guy who's, like, off screen. And so you can only talk so much about it, especially if there's been some sort of resolution. I did notice that her Thanksgiving story changed.

[Mary]

I. Yes.

[Courtney]

At the time it was nine to one on this show, and last time it was like, like 9:30 to 12:30. I did notice an extra hour was added onto the Thanksgiving story.

[Mary]

Detective Frain. Okay, let's wrap this up and talk about the Amanda package, which was actually, like, super long.

[Courtney]

My package. Excuse me, this is my package. Hi. Rachel. Being like, what's a package? But can you guys just stop hating her? I think they're annoyed that she is not intimidated by any of them. But she was like, I'm not scared. The dress, though, fucking terrible.

[Mary]

It's awful. It's awful. I like what Erica said. Like, don't lead with the labels. Like, it just is not a good look. And that was kind of, I think, a lot of her problem and her just talking so much about her business. So you don't really know anything else about her. I love that she ruffled the women's feathers so much. In what world does she come back?

[Courtney]

I think she could, but I want to go back to something you just said, that we don't know a lot about her. I think we know a ton about Amanda. I think we learned a lot about Amanda over this season. She led with labels, but then it's rich coming from Erica, who would wear labels her first couple of seasons, but maybe just because they don't believe in her business. And sure, it's probably a scam, so whatever, but Dorit came on and was wearing every single label she could find. Find. And so all of a sudden, Amanda does it and it's tacky. And yes, as the audience, we were like, oh, here she goes again. But we know about her kids. We know about the passing of her son. We know about her being an occult. We know about her being the breadwinner. We know of the fact that she has a home in Beverly Hills and she rents in Newport. We know that she manifested that Malibu Barbie beach house. Like, we know a ton about Amanda. I actually think she did share a lot, but because they didn't want to believe in what she does for a living, they were just always going to putting her down. She's too young for the show compared to all of them. Even though Teddy was on the show and they're similar ages, they wanted to hate Amanda because it was easy to. At this point.

[Mary]

I definitely feel like she went in with the target. Absolutely. And then her leading with the labels made them hate her more and her talking so much about the business. I guess we do know a good amount about her, but I feel like we could never authentically see her in the group.

[Courtney]

Group.

[Mary]

I think that was the issue.

[Courtney]

Like, she.

[Mary]

There was always her pushing something, whether it was her business or the labels, that you feel like I couldn't have a genuine conversation with her.

[Courtney]

She's off putting when you meet her. So I think that was part of it, is she came in leading with those labels because she thought that's how she would get them on her side. Look, I'm rich like you, as opposed to just, like, trying to be organic in the group. Because I thought about it, I'm like, if Kyle, through a manifestation party in her backyard with all the pillows on the ground, everyone would be so 100 into it. And if she brought in Amanda as the manifestation coach, they would all be leaning in. Amanda hosts it, and they're like, what am I supposed to do? Write in my journal?

[Mary]

Yeah, you're right.

[Courtney]

It just is such a Perspective of who does it that they will accept. And so. Yeah. Do I find Amanda annoying? Yeah, of course I do. Do I find her fun to watch? I do. Because she annoys them. Them so much. You think she could come back?

[Mary]

No.

[Courtney]

Okay. No. You don't think so?

[Mary]

No, I don't think that.

[Courtney]

But what about 10, 1026?

[Mary]

Courtney, you got. You're gonna have to go up to. Is it Santa? Yes.

[Courtney]

She's rented out the whole city, so I'll just keep going until I find the city. Rented out.

[Mary]

You got to get up there 10 to 26. What if we.

[Courtney]

We met up that day?

[Mary]

We could halfway point.

[Unknown Female Host]

I know.

[Courtney]

I was just gonna say, like, let's just do like a little trade off, you know, just like, oh, I have something of yours. Meet me in Santa. An just think about it. I do think episode one was better than two. And I was hopeful after one, but I was disappointed with two, so it's

[Mary]

funny, I watched them out of order. I watched two first, and I like two better than one. Really?

[Courtney]

Yes. Okay. Okay. So then there's something for everyone.

[Mary]

There always is. And on that note, have a fabulous weekend. Hope you get a cute little dress for your B day, and I'll talk to you soon. Okay?

[Courtney]

Have a great weekend yourself and you all have a great weekend.

[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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