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Well, that's cool.
Jake Stauch
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Courtney
Nothing went wrong. So what's the problem?
Jake Stauch
That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes to smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.
Mary
Maybe there's no catch.
Jake Stauch
That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.
Mary
Wow. You need to relax.
Jake Stauch
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Mary
I think it's laminate.
Jake Stauch
Okay. Yeah, that's good. That's close enough.
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Courtney
Welcome back to two judgy girls. This is Mary from the Bay and
Mary
it's Courtney from la. These ladies of Rhode island, they are giving it to us week after week.
Courtney
I am so obsessed with them. I'm actually obsessed with Brian this week. I love watching this man. I mean, seeing his doctor secrets, that was probably my favorite part of the entire episode. He was wasted like chatty cathy. Two tequila shots is the combo to get into Brian's vault.
Mary
Two tequila shots, one martini. Then he switched to a different vodka drink. That man was like, oh, dear God. And he was making me giggle. He said, yeah, I gotta try the product. I microdose ozempic when I'm feeling a little flubby. When I get too thin, I do some steroids. Oh, I'm feeling a little jowly. I add the botox. I gotta try the product.
Courtney
Theirs was, like, so endearing to me for some reason.
Mary
We love an adulterer.
Courtney
I love a doctor that uses the products on themselves. Okay? I appreciate someone that is buying what they're selling. He's testing it.
Mary
It's. He's a giver, you know, to more than one person. His marriage and his girlfriend.
Courtney
You guys have to listen to our Joe Ellen interview because, wow. I feel like she gave a lot of tidbits. She's like, oh, Brian would bring the girlfriend. We're gonna call her the girlfriend, not the mistress to our club all the time. Gary would see them all the time at the club. I would see them out on dates. Apparently, he showed her divorce papers, gave her a ring, introduced the girlfriend to his family. Like, why would this woman not think this is real?
Mary
Why does she have part ownership in one of his companies? We didn't even touch that with joellen.
Courtney
Such a good point.
Mary
But I think if I'm the mistress girlfriend, I'm thinking there's something going on here completely.
Courtney
Brian had me cackling. I also feels like because he's living a double life, you can tell when he's gonna go to this other life because he looks directly into the camera. He's like, oh, I just got a text from my mistress. Did you guys hear that? Do you guys see this? I'm just gonna go to the bathroom. Oh, hey, guys. That work call,
Mary
Like, even Alicia, who I would say lives on the naive side and maybe doesn't pick up all nuances, is like, wait, was it the bathroom or a work call? She's like, I'm definitely not showing the video tonight.
Courtney
I knew she wasn't gonna go to that dinner and have showed the video or bring it to the table at the dinner. Could you imagine sitting at someone's home and saying, so I got this video. I If I was Alicia, I would have done the exact same thing. I would have shown up to work and kept my mouth quiet.
Mary
I mean, what do they say? Don't shoot the messenger? Because obviously the messenger gets shot so often.
Courtney
I know, I know.
Mary
She said, I don't think so. Also, what was funny about this dinner scene, too, is now that I know Brian has all the secrets, Brian is dealing out ozempic to everyone. Nobody was touched in that delicious strawberry salad with, I'm assuming, a raspberry vinaigrette dressed on top.
Courtney
Sounds delish.
Mary
They were moving that around to make it look like they had taken a bite because they're all sampling the product.
Courtney
I appreciate the honesty.
Mary
It was making me laugh. Like, that dinner, I was like, I want, like, the bloopers. I want whatever made it to the cutting room floor. I want more of that. He really was making me crack up. And now I. After talking to Joellen about this relationship, like, I am invested. I want to watch more Brian scenes. I think it's ridiculous, and I need more.
Courtney
No, we just got to give him two tequila shots before every scene.
Mary
Yeah. And you got to get to that country club.
Courtney
It was too good. It was too good. Also, just, there's so much nostalgia. Like, I feel like this is old school because we're going into their homes and having dinner. Like, we're not meeting up at a restaurant. This huge party. It feels a little bit more like real life. And even the top of the episode, watching Billy and Alicia just drive like this reminded me of Teresa and Joe driving around New Jersey. So let's talk about this drive, because Alicia has a fear of driving, you know, but she has some things to supplement.
Mary
She ran over a woman, Mary.
Courtney
This is very true. This is exposure therapy. But before she gets into the car, she's like, billi, Billi, come over here. Look at this. Four leaf clover. And Billy's like, that's literally poison oak. Don't touch that, Alicia. And she's just, like, immediately stressed out. She gets in the car. I need the cracker. I need the cracker. Like, where is my rose water? I'm gonna put that on my face. I need the peppermint oil to calm me down. A little gum. Get Britney Spears on the playlist. I need a good playlist to get us there. Her daughter literally roots her on to drive her to dance. Because there's just one bridge. We saw the bridge. Is it even a bridge?
Mary
It didn't look like that big of a bridge. It wasn't like the Golden Gate Bridge, if you will. It wasn't like the Brooklyn Bridge. It wasn't what I would think is a large bridge. It looked like it was maybe going over a lake.
Courtney
It didn't seem like much to me. And she conquered her fears, and now she can drive her daughter to dance.
Mary
Slow down. Baby steps, Mary. Because, like, Billy's all excited because Billy's got to take daughter to dance five days a week. He's got like nine restaurants running. Alicia, just buy a car with autopilot.
Courtney
So true. So true.
Mary
Hands free time for filling them with crackers.
Courtney
The only thing is, so when you do the self driving, you have to still keep your hands on the wheels. They'll get mad at you and it like dings.
Mary
Ding, ding, ding.
Courtney
Like put your hands on the wheels. Put your hands on the wheel. And they'll take it off if you don't have your hands in the wheels.
Mary
Okay, fine. So eat the crackers before. Yeah, put it in autopilot. Self driving and then put your hands at 10 and 2.
Courtney
There you go.
Mary
There you go. I. I'm just trying to help.
Courtney
You're giver.
Mary
Can I talk about these dirty delete stories, though, that Alicia posted on Friday?
Courtney
Wait, what? I love a dirty delete, though.
Mary
It's tough. Alicia said, now I. I'm going to be reading this word for word. This is not me stuttering. This is just how it is written. Okay, so these are Alicia's stories. Story one, asking for a friend. Do you think if it's okay if your spouse takes your money and pays bills without asking and you never see your money or your check?
Courtney
Whoa. Okay, so she's talking about her Rhode island check. Mm.
Mary
Well, she's asking for a friend. Story two, asking for a friend. Do you think It's a normal 4, 4, someone to put your face and use your image and story for a business that you don't see a dollar from?
Jake Stauch
Wow.
Courtney
I would be very curious how their banking is. Like, does Billy have a bank account for Alicia that he puts money in? Do you know what I mean? It doesn't sound like joint checking because she's literally said, someone's taking my checks and putting them in the bank and I'm not seeing them.
Mary
Is this financial abuse? Which friend is this? Alicia. I'm like, oh, my God, pizza mama. What happened?
Courtney
It makes me laugh because I can't imagine that Billi has Instagram or anything like that. He feels like someone off of social media.
Mary
Yeah. There was no tag for the friend's partner. He deleted those pretty fast. So shout out to whoever caught that. But I do worry because I think they're kind of cute. I want them to last. But it does feel like she might have come on this show to build her financial freedom.
Courtney
Cracker deals, get away from Billy, have the courage to do it, have a paycheck from the show. I definitely agree with that. Although I'm rooting for them. I. I want them to be together. They have that sweet daughter together. And I would love for Billy to come around. And it's also, like, she's making her own money now, Billie. And she deserves 50% of his businesses, the house. And guess what? She's going to be very successful right now. So it might be something you want to be involved in as well, Billy.
Mary
You want to cash in. As we learned from Ashley, I in this episode, restaurant not as lucrative as brand deals on Instagram. Okay. Ashley, I and Jared could book three deals. And the amount that they make from that is way more than Audrey takes home in a year.
Courtney
Okay. My dream is this summer. I'm gonna go to Boston, and my dream is to go to Rhode island for one night, hit up all the spots.
Mary
Dinner at Pizza Mama and Espresso Tini at Audrey's.
Courtney
I would love that.
Mary
You have to do that.
Courtney
I know. I gotta make sure, like, we can get someone to watch Charlie.
Mary
Bring him.
Courtney
It's okay. I'd like a night away.
Mary
Maybe you could stay at the Sea View Terrace. It's haunted.
Courtney
I. I love Newport. I love Rhode Island. It's such a beautiful place.
Mary
Okay, wait. I want to talk about Liz a little bit because she was barely in this episode.
Courtney
Now, how did you feel about Dolores and Liz, this scene together?
Mary
I'm having a problem because I'm over Liz. And that's crazy to say. I know, because it's only been a few episodes, but I'm just. There's something I'm just not getting on board with. I like that Rhode island is the first state that is actively taking in menopause and recognizing that as, like, a life change, a life event. And I think it's great, but I guess I just am not invested in Liz anymore. Is that weird?
Courtney
I just got this, like, really big, like, Breaking Bad moment when we were in there. I was like, oh, my God, we're literally at a drug dispensary. Is it only weed? There was a. It was a lap. I watched Breaking Bad not that long ago. I watched it when Charlie was first born because that's what a normal mother does. Watches a drug dealing show.
Mary
You taught him young. You're not living this life, Charlie. Okay?
Courtney
You'll never be Jesse Pinkman.
Mary
I never watched Breaking Bad, Courtney. But. But I've watched the finale because. Because it was such a. Like, an event. This is like when you used to have weekly shows and there'd be these big events, right? It's like, I think about all these season finales that we would all tune in at the same time.
Courtney
Of course. Of course.
Mary
And I hadn't watched it, but I knew, like, the players. I knew the general game. And so I was like, well, if I don't watch this, I won't be a loser. Everyone's gonna be talking about it.
Courtney
This might be something that you should download to go on the way to Italy.
Mary
I have literally no desire. I've seen the finale. I know how it ends.
Courtney
Do you remember?
Mary
I'm not invested in enough in it to go back. There's too much content. I'm really into right now, you guys. This show called Off Campus. It's on Amazon Prime. It's the new like ya show. It's like the new. The summer I turn pretty set in college. This girl really likes this guy, and she's lost her scholarship, so she's freaking out about how she's going to pay for college next year. And then there's the star hockey player, and he's failing this class and he needs to pass it. And she is really smart, Mary. So she'll tutor him and he'll pay her, and then he's gonna help her get the guy. And it's like, hijinks ensue.
Courtney
I love it. I love it. Hockey is so in right now. It's almost as in as watching Bravo tv.
Mary
Yeah, so I started that the other day, and I'm gonna finish that on the plane.
Courtney
I've heard great things.
Mary
Yeah, I like it so far. I did two episodes.
Courtney
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Courtney
Okay, then we get Rosie and Richie working out. She loves those moon shoes. I really, really like Rich. I feel like he gave her great advice. He's like, speak your truth. Don't let them walk all over you. And I think I'm on Rosie's side. Where do you lie?
Mary
See, I'm with you. I want to be on Rosie's side. But I do think she went a little extreme. But I'm also like, I get it though. She was just so pissed. She just started seeing red that Kelsey thought that they had made a breakthrough, that she could joke around with her, even though it's rooted in jealousy still. And like, Rosie just saw red and was like, you're not gonna do. She already felt like she was on the defensive. This was her offering an olive branch. And then Kelsey just like took it and broke it by making a Joke.
Courtney
Also very interesting because I definitely think that Kelsey and the. The rich guy broke up two years ago. 2. I am hearing things that they broke up like two years ago. He let her film there. But this makes so much more sense in my mind because I'm like, yeah, how and Billy like thickest thieves together now.
Mary
Right.
Courtney
You know, I really need the timeline there. It just isn't adding up.
Mary
And she's not as devastated as I feel like somebody should be leaving a 10 year relationship, even though I know she has another man. But yeah, there's. There's details being left out of that relationship. I'm totally with you. And so then I'm like, are you making me dumb as the audience member? Because I'm supposed to believe that we don't like feeling dumb.
Courtney
We do not. We don't want to be lied to. And you could also have gone on the show and been like, I just got out of this relationship. I used to live in this mansion. And then maybe they show some footage from the mansion, you know.
Mary
But would it be as good of a storyline though?
Courtney
I. It's so interesting that she wanted to like broadcast this relationship if, if it was so far removed as well. Like, it's kind of embarrassing, right?
Mary
I think so too. But I think it's also trying to show a different lifestyle. Like you think that she wants everyone to see her in this one bedroom apartment.
Courtney
Well, it was kind of interesting too when we had on Joellen. Joellen had like booked the show when she was pregnant. And it looks like on the show when they're filming it, the daughter looks almost like a year old at that point. So I'm like, did she book the show when she was in a relationship with that guy and they broke up and then she was like, I still need to show that that's why they want me on the show.
Mary
Oh, that's a good point.
Courtney
So that's it. My mind's kind of like I all of you racing a little bit. Yeah, of course, of course. I need the details. Yeah.
Mary
There's something odd about it. And I thought Rosie was trying. She's had such anxiety and throwing up from the stress on the Ozempic and she's trying to figure out how to like fit in more with this group. And I've said too, that trio, Ashley, I, Rosie and Kelsey would be a strong trio if they could get along, but it doesn't feel like that's going to be happening. And Rosie's just like on her back foot within this group too. She doesn't have the relationships like the other girls do. She's like, I think we made progress. And then she's afraid, though, if I think we've made progress, I'm gonna let her cut my hair. I'll post about it, whatever. And then I started thinking about this. Why didn't Kelsey take a photo? Kelsey has a makeup and hair page on Instagram. Why didn't she take a photo and then ask Rosie to collab on that post? She should have.
Courtney
She definitely should have. Also, I kept on thinking, if they hadn't gotten in the fight that they got into, like, that Kelsey was gonna still give her the haircut and she was gonna, like, ruin her hair.
Mary
No, that would be a terrible idea, because then that would be bad for business.
Courtney
But it. It had me kind of laughing, like, to myself. I'm like, oh, are they gonna, like, sit in that chair? And she's like, oh, sorry.
Mary
Yeah, I did think, like, it was brave to allow scissors around her. Like, I would have just asked for a blowout for sure.
Courtney
You're. That's a good point. That's a good point.
Mary
But I guess maybe you couldn't because of the sound, and we don't pick up the sound bites.
Courtney
Yeah, that's true.
Mary
Maybe just a curling of the hair.
Courtney
Right? Right.
Mary
I don't know. Actually, I got a haircut, so. And then we got a blowout, so I don't know. We're. We're asking too many. Those are not the questions we need answered. Okay, we need more about the boyfriend or the ex boyfriend. The rich one.
Courtney
Yes. I'd love to know more. Let's talk about Kelsey's new apartment. So we meet her mom and her sister, and the mom and the sister are trying to pretend that. Oh, my gosh. Wait, he's paying for this. What job does Kelsey have? She's like, yeah, paying for my car, my health insurance, and this place.
Mary
He's literally her papa. Yes, he's her sugar daddy, But I
Courtney
also do feel like she was with that man for 10 years. She is entitled to some type of settlement, if you ask me.
Mary
What if they broke up two years ago, though? Mary.
Courtney
I know. See, this is why it's getting confusing.
Mary
And how long has she really been in this apartment?
Courtney
I don't know.
Mary
And where is this apartment? It's actually. It's very cute.
Courtney
It's big.
Mary
Yeah. And she's like, but it's not my really big castle. And I'm like, babe, you were. You were going to time out of that castle at some Point.
Courtney
Yeah. Yeah. And then her being like, and I could have moved into Bill's house. I'm like, wait, what? We need the real timeline. This is bothering me now.
Mary
I agree. Like, it's feeling weird. And, like, Bill seems like such a nice guy. He comes over to build the IKEA furniture. And I do love when they have to build an IKEA furniture because it's like a high low. The high is what the ex pays for. The low is what she can afford.
Courtney
Exactly.
Mary
As I look at my IKEA Billy bookshelf over here. Oh, it's called Billy.
Courtney
It's really called Billy.
Mary
You have it too? No. Oh, okay. You're rich. Oh, man. Okay. But then I was, like, laughing too, with, like, the sister and the mom. I'm like, you guys know every detail.
Courtney
You know, that's the thing. I feel like Kelsey is playing things up for the camera, and we do not like that. But I want to like Kelsey.
Mary
Exactly. It's like, kelsey, I think you are. You're trying to fool us.
Courtney
Yeah, like that. We do not. We do not like Ashley. I not trying to fool us. Her doing those brand deals. I actually thought this was very clever. I was shocked they were showing us the process of Ashley I making a deal, because I think that helps her business. What do you think?
Mary
I was actually thinking, you know what's so annoying is the fact that the way that she was going to film that deal where she was just showing the box and reading a script and she's gonna get paid five figures for it at least. Actually kind of annoyed and, like, reading off of a paper, that, to me, sometimes feels lazy. And I think the more followers you have and the more posts of engagement that you can show to these brands, the lazier you probably get to be. And so I actually felt like it was lazy. But I will say there was this moment, though, when Dawson had to go to the basement, and she goes, okay, bye, Dawson. Love you. And he stops in his tracks and he goes, where are you going? She goes, I'm not going anywhere. You're going to the basement. He's like, oh, okay.
Courtney
Like, so scared Mommy was gonna leave.
Mary
He was so cute. I'm like, oh, my God, this kid. And did you know he's named after Jack Dawson from Titanic?
Courtney
No. Oh, my God, that kid. She needs to get him into modeling. He is adorable. Adorable.
Mary
Yeah. Wait, so what did you think about the brand deal? Maybe I'm just being cynical because I'm, like, a little under the weather today, and so I'm just annoyed I mean,
Courtney
I was kind of on her side with Jared. I mean.
Mary
Oh, yes.
Courtney
I can't imagine having my husband work his freaking ass off. And it's like, not an income that they can live on. And then she's stuck at home with the kids most of the time, plus bringing in all the money, like, and
Mary
a nanny for 33 hours a week.
Courtney
True. But I. I would be extremely frustrated if I was her, because he can make a lot more money and put a lot more effort into social media and not have to be stuck at Audrey's. He needs someone to manage Audrey's for him.
Mary
Yeah. I think that's what it is. It's like, you can have Audrey's and you can still be there and you can still spend time, but you do have to relinquish a little bit of control.
Courtney
Yes.
Mary
Especially, like, the trade off is do these three brand deals and show off your body, even though I don't necessarily like that. But then go be at Audrey's the other time. You need to balance your work life better completely.
Courtney
That would make you so upset.
Mary
Yeah.
Courtney
Let's talk about Joellen and her mother. So Joellen had said in our interview that her and her mother were not speaking right now. They didn't see each other on Mother's Day. And I'm hoping that this episode will help this situation. So they go over to her grandfather's house, and they start talking and looking at old pictures. Jo Ellen with Bill Clinton, Monica. When her sister asked, did he try anything on you? She's like, no. But then we go a little bit more into her upbringing, and the mom. And the mom really didn't have a defense. So Joellen says she was calling her bipolar. She didn't like that she was into boys. It sounds very, very traumatizing. Do you. Do you feel like the mom took ownership of this?
Mary
My least favorite apology is like, sorry if your feelings were hurt, of course. Where you put the onus on somebody else. I don't love that because I think of, like, Kathy Hilton in Paris, and that's just like the think other situation I can think of to compare it to. And it's almost like they don't want to take ownership for the bad situation that they put their children in. All Joellen wants is for her to take accountability. Be like, I'm sorry I did that to you, as opposed to saying, like, I'm sorry, that was a bad experience for you. Just say you're sorry.
Courtney
And her mom, like, justifying her behavior. She's like, well, let Me just tell you about my childhood, because when I was little, I was jumping on the bed, I hit the headboard, blood was everywhere. And my mother just said, my floors, my floors, I just had them clean. She's definitely trying to deflect the situation, which is really hard to watch.
Mary
But I think in her mind, it was kind of like, okay, I'm not gonna let it get to that point of where my mom just didn't like me, and I'm gonna make sure that she's okay. I'll put her in these behavioral things. And then it was like, actually, you just, like, never needed to do that.
Courtney
Yeah. This is just, like, very complicated. Tough to watch. And then I'm wondering if Joellen will ever actually be able to forgive her and, like, move forward. I don't know if she will be able to. And you can even tell she keeps talking about her relationship with the grandkids. You know, she's like, you shouldn't be babysitting my kids. You should want to hang out with them and be with them.
Mary
It really has a chip on her shoulder from, like, her relationship with her mother. And I think she also thinks that her mom loves Jen more, and Jen is, like, the prized child, and. And I think it's really hard. And I mean, she says, like, you're the parent. Like, you should be making amends with me. You should be wanting this relationship with me. I have these grandkids. These are, like, your legacy. Like, you should be wanting to be in my life. And it's almost like you don't want to take accountability for what I'm upset about. And so you put this wall up, and I can only bang on that wall so many times.
Courtney
And I also think it hits Joellen harder being a mom herself. Now. She's like, how could you ever do this? Like, I can't imagine sending my children away. Like, her oldest son is 11. So getting to that point where she was first sent away in seventh grade. And great point, Jen. Jen was like, you made us strong. And Joanne's like, you made me a.
Mary
Well, I was thinking, too, is like, this also, though, has to be a hard conversation to be doing. Like, Joellen is being so authentically herself. And then, like, the cameras are there, and they're having this. But it is hard. Like, I think about when we think about, like, Bronwyn's muzzy or, like, Candy's mom, like, these, like, you know, I'm putting quotes around it. Terrible mothers come onto our screen, and now there's going to be this Opinion formed from the public. And you have this as the child and it's still your mom. And so you have. It's just, it's a lot. Do you know what I mean though? Of like now you have this public who's going to not feel great things about you because we're seeing what's happened and we're getting it from Jo Ellen's perspective too. And it's like that is tough.
Courtney
It's so tough. Yeah. I mean, I hope that maybe they can go to therapy together.
Mary
I agree. I hope that there is a path forward for them. And I also hope too, maybe Joellen's mom can watch this and really see the hurt and pain that Joellen has suffered and just say, I, I didn't know it was that bad. I know you've said it, but I didn't know. And now that I'm actually like seeing it, not from even her telling her mom, but like seeing her just give her account that maybe that'll make progress. Hopefully.
Courtney
Totally. Totally.
Mary
I hope so for them. I hope so because you don't want to miss out on your grandkids lives. No, I mean your daughter too, but like, you know. Yeah.
Courtney
Yeah. Okay, let's take a break and talk about Rula and Brian. We're lost.
Mary
It feels like we're going round in circles.
Courtney
I'm gonna ask that man for directions.
Mary
Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.
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Okay, you guys, I took a screenshot of Rula and that hospital photo because I have convinced myself she went to the hospital, found a bed in the HAL hallway. This picture is from the hallway. And she jumped in the bed. She's wearing her own pajamas, and she threw like all these towels over her. And then I was like, is this even Rula? There's something so suspicious about this.
Mary
Can you send me this screenshot?
Courtney
Of course. Of course.
Mary
Courtney, do you think it was maybe just like, it could have been like, a busy er?
Courtney
No.
Mary
No. Okay.
Courtney
Or is this Brian's office? Is this Brian's office? Actually, like, I just don't believe this situation at all.
Mary
Look at her wrist. She does have the wristband. You think she went to a water park that day or something? And they gave her, like, that's her ticket to make for the. For them to know she was at Baja. Mar. I will say the seat pillow. Like she just got straight off of a plane. Like she brought a sleep pillow for her neck. I mean, it could be in Brian's office.
Courtney
It just makes me giggle. It definitely looks like it's in the hallway. There's like a chair in a picture. Yeah, it's just sus.
Mary
Okay, we do have to just question everything with that family now completely.
Courtney
We definitely.
Mary
Without the two shots of tequila, we are left to our own devices of trying to solve the puzzle here from
Courtney
that genetically modified organism. Brian, he called himself. Like I was dying. I sell this. I. I might as well do it.
Mary
Alicia. Be like, this is incredible. I'm learning so much.
Courtney
This is like science class. Billy's like, alicia, you are not going on a zembic.
Mary
Stop it, baby. She's already on it. And you know what, Billy, you might be on it too, because again, you're all pushing those salads around and nobody's really taking a bite. I also was laughing because she had for the place settings, she had gone and made, like, professional name placards. Like, it was like a coaster with the names on it. And I thought, wow, I think they are rich. Rich.
Courtney
I do, too. I mean, I think doctors can do really well. I think Rula does very well.
Mary
I think they're both really rich and their money is Together now. And so. And then I think maybe they're just in throuples. Maybe they're both. Maybe, like, Rula gets off on the fact that Brian sneaks around, but she's in on it.
Courtney
There's something there.
Mary
Something's going on in that household. Get him the tequila. We need answers.
Courtney
Andy's like, okay, so Brian, come on out. Brian just took three tequila shots. Because we really want the truth now, Brian, let's talk about the timeline with the girlfriend. When did you meet? Was that also at Jackie's? Did you give her doubles? And you were just having singles? That was crazy.
Mary
Is Jackie la professor de espanol? Is that his former wife, the Spanish teacher?
Courtney
It's so crazy.
Mary
He's like, so basically when I met Rula, I got her so wasted, consent was out the door. I kept giving her doubles while I was drinking. Singles. I'm like, not helping the case, creepo.
Courtney
No, it was very disturbing to hear that. And then when he started talking about the filet mignon and how it reminds him of an Achilles and that's why he likes it medium now, I was like, that's disgusting.
Mary
Hey, Dexter, chill out, okay? Brian is Dexter. Maybe he's priming her for his next meal.
Courtney
Oh, my.
Mary
What happened in that doctor's office?
Courtney
This scene I just loved so much. And it's something about being in their own home that made it better. It really made me appreciate them with the staff.
Mary
The placards for the names. I want to come to this dinner.
Courtney
Yes, Agreed.
Mary
Like, I would like more dinners at Rula's house.
Courtney
There's something about, like, inviting someone into your home as well and controlling this situation and sitting at your dining room table and it feels more friendly.
Mary
Yeah, yeah. Like, you could have a few tequila shots because he's not driving anywhere.
Courtney
Exactly.
Mary
And either is Alicia, so she needs to get on that too.
Courtney
Yeah. She brought two bottles of Champs. Very generous. She did vuv. She did the one and the regular. I love the.
Mary
I love it. I love it. Okay, let's go into Kelsey and Rosie, because, honestly, this escalated very fast, and
Courtney
I'm totally team Rosie on this one. Kelsey wasn't very good at defending herself either.
Mary
Well, she drives up with an intercom from her car. She's driving a Range Rover. Kelsey. Also, she has to get a new car because this car is, quote, unquote, giving out on her. I'm like, babe, the lease is up. We know.
Courtney
You're so right.
Mary
We know. The lease is up. Okay. Like, you had a three year lease. You Broke up in year one. He said, fine, I'll pay the rest until it's out. And now you're going to be driving a Honda Civic.
Courtney
Yep, that sounds about right.
Mary
And that's okay. There's nothing wrong with a Honda Civic.
Courtney
I've had many Hondas. I love a Honda. I had an.
Mary
Are you a Honda?
Courtney
I had two Accords. I had a white Honda Accord 1996 in high school. The person before me smoked in it, and I continued to smoke in it. Told my parents that it was the person before me because I thought smoking was cool.
Mary
Oh, my God. Being a 17 year old, smoking in your car with that window down with not a care in the world, thinking you were the coolest person.
Courtney
Yes. I yearn for that moment. I would go in the back roads, blast my music, have my cigs, Listen to Blink182. I was living Courtney. And then I got a Honda Accord 1999 V6. Courtney. That power that it was, I could whip around anywhere. It was like a forest green, leather seats.
Mary
It was good. But I've only known you with. What was the car after that that you had?
Courtney
A Nissan Altima. Like a boat?
Mary
Yes.
Courtney
Oh, man. 2004 Nissan Altima. Huge freaking boat. And I add that up till 2020.
Mary
So you, like, Kelsey, you're gonna run it to the ground?
Courtney
Of course you have to run those cars to the ground.
Mary
I had my Jeep. My first car was a. That blue one. Yeah. Indiana Jones. And I drove that for, like 15 years. Yeah. A lot of problems with it, though, at the end.
Courtney
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mary
It's like once. Once it starts to break, it's like, it's over. But I'm like, no, it ain't over, baby.
Courtney
Totally. Michael still has a 1996, like, clueless Jeep.
Mary
God, I love a Wrangler. My sister got a Wrangler. Like, drive me around.
Courtney
I know there was nothing cooler. That would be fun to have a sig in that car.
Mary
Oh, God.
Courtney
Okay, so she pulls up.
Mary
House police. House police. Oh. Suspect says it's 8, 000 square feet, but more like 8, 000 inches. But that's not even a good read. Kelsey. You literally could have planned these reads so much better. It's not that funny.
Courtney
It was not funny at all. And this really threw Rosie. I think she was like, one embarrassed for, like, the whole, like, neighborhood thing. And then she's like, you're literally gonna come to my home and make this giant scene where I'm actually helping your business when you don't have A man. You don't have a house and you don't have a career. Like, fuck no, not on my property. She got activated. But Courtney, all I could look at was this ugly fucking outfit. This was horrible. Rosie, what is she wearing? She might be one of the worst dressers on Bravo.
Mary
Well, I think collectively the entire Valley cast is the worst dressed of a show on Bravo. But Rosie is just like, she's like a Lisa Frank. Yes.
Courtney
Like bright.
Mary
She's just these like bright colors, wild pattern, just like loud. I don't know where she's buying it from. It's just like she's almost like taking Polly Pockets clothes and then making them into human clothes.
Courtney
Toddler and tiaras.
Mary
Yeah. And but to be honest, Kelsey's outfit was terrible too. I liked her sweater, but then she had like a tennis skirt on and these like slide shoes. It's not good. It's not good over there.
Courtney
So they make it up the stairs and Rosie has strategically left out the house plans and was like, you know, you keep on talking about this square footage. Do you want to go outside? You can measure it. You. You keep saying I'm a liar and exaggerator. And Kelsey's like, oh, okay, like it was a joke. Calm down a bit. I was trying to be light hearted. I thought we're on the same page now. We're going to be friends and make fun of each other. And Rosie's like, no, you've attacked my house, my character. All you do is talk about me behind my back. Look at the plans. And where the fuck is your house? At least I'm on the deed of this house. Where are you? What have you done? What have I done to you? Get the out of the. It just starts going haywire.
Mary
Thing is like, Kelsey played her hand wrong. She should have made a better joke not insulting Rosie. In the beginning. She thought that they were at the point where they could banter with each other and they weren't. She should have made a joke like, the friendship police is here. Can they get along? Something silly like don't come in, don't go on those sirens. I know. Rosie probably also feels feel slightly insecure because she's like, this is a really nice neighborhood and we're trying to like, catch up to be with everybody in this neighborhood. We are building this. You want to see the plans? It is happening. We've been detracted by boulders. Okay. But don't worry, we're breaking through and we're gonna get it done. So she is like so nervous to have to try to impress Kelsey. And Kelsey came in trying to have the upper hand in a joking way. But there's no joking with Rosie right now.
Courtney
No, she, like, lost it. And she's like, so you're basically mad at me for saying you are a polygamist at a picnic, even though you're the definition of a polygamist. You know, you have a boyfriend yet you have other boyfriends. They have other girlfriends.
Mary
You're a bitch. Get out. You are no one. No one. Get the fuck out of my house. Here's where I thought that it was, like, kind of annoying me, though, because, like, hair supplies are expensive. Okay. And when she had that bag and she was grabbing that bag to basically toss it out the front door as she did, like, that would piss me off. Don't touch my shit to throw me out. I don't like that.
Courtney
That. Okay, I'll give you that one. All I could hear was Rosie, because Kelsey really wasn't saying much.
Mary
Sucking dick is not a career. And I was like. And the rumor is you might have gotten fired for doing that.
Courtney
I. Yeah, I. We need to know more about that as well. We.
Mary
We do, we do. But she's like, oh, and the whole thing that you won a pageant. Yeah, Right. Your sugar daddy paid for. Shut the up and get out of my house. Okay, you guys, there is this clip going around of Kelsey from the beauty pageant. Have you seen it? No. Okay, I'm probably going to quote this so wrong because I saw it a couple weeks ago. Forgot about it until we were talking about the pageant. She was showing her awards. Okay, this is unclear, and I'm probably making this part up. Was she hit by a car maybe? I think she was hit by a car. She went into the hospital, they found this tumor, and they removed a tumor from her. And then. But in the pageant, they say it's not a rumor. They got rid of the tumor.
Courtney
Oh, my God.
Mary
As she's walking down the stage in her bathing suit.
Courtney
So she basically had this, like, miracle happen because. Because she got hit by a car. They did, like, a full scan, find this tumor, and it saved her life.
Mary
It's not a rumor. They got rid of that tumor.
Courtney
Wow.
Mary
Kelsey, Miss Rhode Island.
Courtney
Do you think she won this contest fair and square?
Mary
No.
Courtney
Okay. Okay. So what happens is upstairs, she starts grabbing the luggage. Take your out. Get out of my house. You're not welcome here. And then Rosie pushes Kelsey out of the house. Production does jump in. And then Rosie, like, runs up the stairs, and then Kelsey walks back in and is like, Rosie, by the way, I won that pageant, Baron Square. I just thought that was, like, really funny as, like, the last line. I really couldn't hear Kelsey in the fight. Rosie was bulldozing her. You are no one. Shut the up. Get out of my house. I would love to see this on Peacock without it bleeped because I really. It was just so bleeped. I really couldn't hear what was going on.
Mary
You need the captions for it. And then. But the thing is, too, is like, Rosie was so in Kelsey's face that at one point, Kelsey pushes Rosie back just to be like, give me space. It wasn't like a shove. That's what really, like, got Rosie to grab the and throw her out. Don't touch me. It's like you were in her space. I don't. She just was like, whoa. Like, back off. And so then when she, like, pushes her out to him, like, this is so crazy. She's like, everyone knows you sleep with married men. You're a slam pig. Get in my house.
Courtney
House.
Mary
You're such a loser. I won't call the police. Get out. You are such a loser. And I'm thinking, so if the sirens got the neighbors going and they were like, what is this? I do think they might be able to hear this as well.
Courtney
This was a wild, wild scene. And then Kelsey just drives off and it's like, bye, Rosie. With her fingers up. I just feel like Rosie dominated this situation and really just got out everything that was on her chest and put it all out there.
Mary
Okay, now I will say for next week when Kelsey shows up with the sash that says Miss Slam Pig. That is funny.
Courtney
Hilarious.
Mary
I. I understand where Rosie was coming from. I think she took it too far. Once you say something, you can never take it back. You know, it's. It's out of the tube. But I just feel like she was, like, so on the back. I would love to figure. Find a way for them to find a way to be friends.
Courtney
I think Rosie will have a lot to say about Kelsey at the reunion in terms of her timeline with that man.
Mary
We do need a timeline, and we do need Kelsey to come clean.
Courtney
Yes, Agreed.
Mary
You do need to let us know and maybe it'll be, we broke up, we got back together, we broke up, he let me be here. You know, whatever it was, there was a lot of back and forth. It wasn't clear. By the time the show came, I was ready. Truthfully, Kelsey now has a paycheck from the show. She's Building her business. I'd love to know too. Is she just a house call only or does she have a studio space somewhere? Because she doesn't have that house space anymore.
Courtney
Yeah. Unsure. Unless he meet. Maybe he lets her use it to make money so he wouldn't even hear.
Mary
It's. The house is so big, she could enter, have clients and he would never even know. Plus, he's in Miami most of the time.
Courtney
Right. I just am obsessed with Rhode Island. They have casted it literally perfectly. Every single person needs to come back. I don't want one new person.
Mary
What if it was the mistress? Girlfriend.
Courtney
Okay. But it's just. It's just perfection. I love it so much.
Mary
I think I do want Rosie to have another ally.
Courtney
I mean, Ashley is a good ally.
Mary
No, I know, but I think Ashley can be within the group now. And I think Ashley, she's so busy. I don't. I just feel like she's not as integrated into the group as much as the other women are who have all these pasts that it would be nice for Rosie to have someone that maybe had. She has more history with too. Yeah. So that's. Yeah. And just also like, more rich. You know this. We had Jersey with the house husbands. And I'm like, I'm here for the house husbands of Rhode Island.
Courtney
Yeah. It's like Salt Lake.
Mary
Yeah. But like, I want more of these guys. Like rich. I love Rich. Sorry.
Courtney
Yeah, that's okay.
Mary
I mean, we love Brian.
Courtney
I love Brian. Watching him is actually insane. Give me more.
Mary
He's a terrible person, but I love him. I love Brian. And somebody get him the tequila sponsorship. The official Tequila for cheaters. There could be a cheater brand. Sonia Morgan. Cheater brand.
Courtney
I know. I was thinking. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Mary
Tipsy girl. Tequila. And Brian is the face. It's perfect because that's also how he got rule up. By getting her tipsy.
Courtney
Oh, my God.
Mary
Layers. Oh, God, I love it.
Courtney
All right, have a great day, everybody.
Mary
Bye. Bye.
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May 18, 2026
Hosts: Courtney (LA) & Mary (Bay Area)
Theme: Dissecting Episode 8 of "Real Housewives of Rhode Island" (RHORI) Season 1
This episode delivers a spirited and comedic deep-dive into episode 8 of Real Housewives of Rhode Island, with Courtney and Mary trading witty, candid observations on the cast’s antics—especially a tequila-fueled Brian, dinner-party drama, financial power-plays, parenting woes, and an explosive fight between Kelsey and Rosie. The girls blend pop culture references, behind-the-scenes tea, and empathy for their favorite (and least favorite) Housewives, keeping listeners hooked on Bravo’s newest gem.
[02:39–06:24]
[06:29–11:41]
[12:03–13:46]
[19:45–25:09, 26:13–33:26, 42:18–52:20]
[28:43–33:26]
[24:18–26:08]
[26:13–28:43]
[37:29–41:14]
On Brian’s loose lips:
"Two tequila shots is the combo to get into Brian’s vault." – Courtney (02:42)
“I love a doctor that uses the products on themselves. I appreciate someone that's buying what they're selling. He's testing it.” – Courtney (03:33)
Alicia's driving anxiety:
“I need the cracker...where is my rose water...get Britney Spears on the playlist.” – Courtney (07:09)
Kelsey/Rosie showdown:
"Sucking dick is not a career. And the rumor is you might have gotten fired for doing that." – Mary as Rosie (48:41)
"It's not a rumor, they got rid of that tumor." – Mary recounting Kelsey's beauty pageant moment (49:31)
“You are no one. Shut the fuck up. Get out of my house.” – Rosie (50:11)
“By the way, I won that pageant, fair and square.” – Kelsey (50:36)
Rosie’s wild escalation:
“Get the fuck out. You are no one. No one. Get the fuck out of my house.” – Rosie (48:14, paraphrased)
Ashley I’s influencer hustle:
“The way that she was going to film that deal, just showing the box and reading a script… and she’s gonna get paid five figures for it at least.” – Mary (26:30)
Joellen & her mom:
“My least favorite apology is, like, sorry if your feelings were hurt…” – Mary (29:38)
On the cast:
“I am obsessed with Rhode Island. They have casted it literally perfectly. Every single person needs to come back. I don't want one new person.” – Courtney (53:09)
| Time | Segment | |-------------|----------------------------------------------| | 02:26–06:24 | Brian’s on-screen antics & medical confessions| | 07:02–08:42 | Alicia’s driving segment | | 08:45–11:41 | Alicia’s IG “dirty delete” and financial drama| | 12:03–13:46 | Liz & menopause storyline | | 19:45–28:27 | Rosie/Kelsey drama & timeline confusion | | 28:43–33:26 | Joellen’s family confrontation | | 37:29–41:14 | Rula’s hospital pic: real or staged? | | 42:18–51:51 | Kelsey & Rosie’s explosive fight | | 51:51–54:55 | Closing: hopes for casting, future drama |
Courtney and Mary reaffirm RHORI’s status as Bravo’s best new franchise, loving both the cast’s messiness and their accidental authenticity. The insider tea (from Joellen’s interview), snappy quips, and the hosts’ chemistry make this recap as addictive as the show itself.