TJG: Southern Hospitality S4 E6!

Summary

Two Judgey Girls Podcast Recap

Southern Hospitality – Season 4, Episode 6

Hosts: Courtney (LA) & Mary (Bay Area)
Release Date: April 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

Courtney and Mary return to break down all the drama, chaos, and low-budget cast-trip antics of Southern Hospitality Season 4, Episode 6. The girls revel in how organic and authentically messy this group remains compared to more polished Bravo casts, diving deep into the cast’s finances, personal conflicts, and the tangled web of friendships and relationships within Charleston’s nightlife scene. From Joe Bradley’s risky birthday party venture to the Emmy and Brad confrontation, nothing is off-limits.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Refreshing Realness of Cast Trips

• [04:37] Courtney: Notes the cast’s genuine struggles: “They're crashing on couches. They're bringing the air mattresses. We're sleeping three to a bed. We're in bunk beds. It's refreshing.”
• [05:09] Mary: Contrasts this authenticity with other Bravo shows, especially Vanderpump Rules: “Like this is truly how people live in their 20s... Someone's credit card got declined. There's that kind of situation happening, and I'm here for it.”
• The hosts appreciate seeing relatable financial struggles and group dynamics, making for more engaging reality TV.

2. Joe Bradley’s Birthday Party Stress

• Joe’s 30th birthday bash is a financial gamble: he’s on the hook for “5 months rent” and expected to sell 500 tickets, an amount the girls calculate might be $7,500+ [06:07].
• Courtney: “He might have bit off a little bit more than he could chew because he will basically know, I would say 50 people out of the 500. So 10%.” [07:34]
• Discussion on the awkwardness of charging friends and relying on social media “guerilla marketing” to fill the venue.

3. Joe & Maddie – Trust, Tracking, and Alcohol

• [07:55] Mary: Notes Maddie is tracking Joe’s location, sparking trust issues—he bends the truth about where he is, claiming work when out drinking.
• Mary: “I think for him, anything is working. He's like, I'm a creator. I'm an Instagram star. I'm a reality star. If I leave the house, I'm working.” [09:29]
• Courtney: Suggests Joe is “gaslighting” Maddie, comparing him to Craig (from Southern Charm), but also sees him as hesitant to truly harm Maddie.
• They cover how the couple’s fights (about drinking vs. cheating) are not healthy but relatable for viewers.

4. Who Actually Works at the Bars?

• Debate over which cast members still work at Republic (the club) or other Leva-owned establishments outside filming.
• Mary: “I would say yes. I think they all bop around all the different establishments... they haven't reached that level of fame where they're being mobbed Vanderpump style.” [11:18]
• The cast is still hustling but exploring side gigs (modeling, DJing, art, etc.) that don’t necessarily pay the bills.

5. Michael’s Modeling Aspirations

• Both hosts agree Michael (“Michaels”) is conventionally attractive with modeling potential.
• Mary: “There is something about this level of delusion you have to have for yourself.” [13:02]
• Both see his drive and intensity as possibly a double-edged sword, especially regarding his falling out with Lake.

6. Lake & Michaels – Trust Broken and Raw Emotions

• Tension over Lake breaking Michael’s trust by sharing something he confided; her justification (“talking to others helps my anxiety”) doesn’t land well.
• The hosts analyze the messy fallout, contrasting reality TV logic with real-life friendships.
• Mary: “There is a conversation that they could have had prior where he said, I need some space. I'm really upset with you. As opposed to having other people tell Lake why he's so upset.” [15:16]

7. Cotillion Memories & Michaels’ Background

• Lighthearted tangent about cotillion and ballroom dancing, poking fun at the “clues” to Michael’s sexuality.
• Notable moment: “And his parents were surprised he was gay.” [24:33]

8. Michaels & TJ: Fling or Real Feelings?

• The hosts dissect whether the dynamic between Michaels and TJ is more than a party hookup.
• Courtney: “He also presents way older. Like if you told me he was in his 30s, I would completely believe you. He's like 24, right?” [26:26]
• Roasting the “Salt Lake City” Netflix-and-chill hook-up and joking about flavored lube, suggesting this should get a reunion mention.

9. Emmy & Brad – Microaggression, Apology Fallout

• The most substantial conflict: Emmy still doesn’t grasp what was wrong about labeling Brad “unsafe,” tries to apologize but centers herself.
• Mary: “She literally goes, there's no context needed.” [31:25]
• Courtney: “At the end of the day, it's that she doesn't understand a microaggression, which she needs to get educated really quickly.” [31:28]
• Emmy’s emotional meltdown post-confrontation feels more about her image than true remorse; Michaels steps in to calm her.

10. Dinner Drama & Lake’s Breakdown

• Dinner devolves as Michaels confronts Lake; emotions erupt, and Lake is devastated (“You broke my trust... Stop lying. Stop lying. And you don't get to play the victim.” – Michaels, [41:34]).
• Emmy intervenes but re-centers herself as the victim, frustrating both Lake and viewers:
  • Mary: “Lake is hysterically crying... and then you won't even let me have a moment to be upset that me and Michaels... never want to talk to me again, and you can't even give me that moment.” [43:54]
• The group eventually mends fences, but Emmy’s unresolved feelings loom large.

11. Charleston Work Drama & Joe's Career Crisis

• After the trip, focus returns to Joe: he feels aimless and undervalued, with Leva calling her staff “f-ing lamebos” for low table sales.
• The hosts brainstorm possible passion projects for Joe (hair influencer, Charleston tour guide) and mock his minimal work ethic.
• [48:46] Courtney: “He just feels lazy, though, at the end of the day, like, he is thinking that something's going to be handed to him... Is this a storyline or what's going on?”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mary on the cast’s authenticity:
  “You want to go away for a night, you can’t really afford it… Someone’s credit card got declined. There’s that kind of situation happening, and I’m here for it.” [05:09]
• Courtney on Emmy:
  “She still doesn’t understand why the word is wrong, but she’s very hyper-aware of being called the R word… she doesn’t understand what a microaggression is.” [30:23]
• Mary on Joe Bradley’s hustle:
  “He just seems like he really enjoys the hosting. Like his job can’t be Maddie’s boyfriend.” [50:34]
• Courtney, sarcastically:
  “Like, where’s HR? … You’re not gonna insult me and then ask me to make you money, right?” [47:31]
• On Emmy's meltdown:
  “Emmy's like, give me a hug. It's gonna be okay. And you can just tell Lake is like, ‘I can't believe… At this point, I'd rather go sit at the dinner table.’” [44:04]
• Lighter moment:
  “I'm Delulu, because I didn't even think that was crazy. I think he has a look… Joe Bradley could take on a little something from him.” [13:31]
• About selling out for ads:
  “I’ll talk about shitting myself for seven figures. Honestly, I’d probably do it for six or five. What would be your price to talk about shitting yourself?” [28:08]
• On Michaels & Lake’s reconciliation:
  “Lake comes back, she's trying to explain, hey, you guys, I have anxiety. Confiding in others helps me cope… Michaels ends up forgiving her. And then they pan to Emmy and she is ripping that joint.” [44:04]

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Important Timestamps

• 04:37 – 05:56: Relishing the cast’s broke and messy trip logistics vs. Vanderpump-style opulence
• 06:07 – 07:45: Joe Bradley’s high-stakes birthday debacle, rent math, ticket sales
• 07:55 – 09:54: Maddie tracking Joe, gaslighting accusations, work vs. play debate
• 12:48 – 14:42: Who REALLY works at the clubs, side hustles, modeling delusions
• 23:28 – 26:33: Lake’s anxiety, Emmy fallout, cotillion anecdotes
• 29:41 – 33:34: Brad & Emmy’s failed apology moment, microaggression education
• 41:09 – 44:04: The explosive dinner: Michaels vs. Lake, Emmy’s self-centered attempt at mediation
• 48:46 – 51:44: Work drama back in Charleston, Leva’s motivation tactics, Joe’s existential crisis

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Summary & Final Thoughts

Courtney and Mary deliver an unfiltered, hilarious, and insightful recap that blends Bravo gossip with real talk about relationships, work ethic, and group dynamics. The episode shines an especially critical light on Emmy’s apology arc, Joe’s ongoing lack of ambition, and the cast’s authentic, cash-strapped group trip, affirming why Southern Hospitality has become a must-watch for fans who crave “old school” messiness and lower-stakes reality TV drama.

Whether dissecting microaggressions or the economics of reality TV birthdays, Two Judgey Girls continues to balance snark, empathy, and pop culture expertise with inside jokes and Bravo lore, making this a must-listen for any fan looking to understand both the drama and the satire of reality TV.

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For any listener wanting to catch up without tuning in, this recap delivers all the southern mess — minus the ad breaks and bathroom humor (well, almost).

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[A]

it's Courtney from la. And you know something about Southern hospitality I've really been enjoying is they're poor. That they're still in this struggle bus of life where they're doing one random Overnight, because it's a cast trip, but they have to put some money forward. And so they're crashing on couches. They're bringing the air mattresses. We're sleeping three to a bed. We're in bunk beds. It's refreshing.

[C]

It feels right, you know what I mean? And it made me think about the new Vanderpump rules and how they got to stay in that, like, amazing place in Pat Castle Robles. I'm like, they didn't pay for this. I need them at Southern hospitality level. You know what I mean? Like, this is truly how people live in their 20s. You want to go away for a night, you can't really afford it, but you're going to cook at the house, you're going to cram as many people in. You're going to do one activity. Somebody's going negative in their Venmo right now. Someone's credit card got declined. There's that kind of situation happening, and I'm here for it.

[A]

To be fair, for Vanderpump, it was technically a work trip. So we could say, like, Lisa, put them up for lodging.

[C]

Okay, Fair, fair.

[A]

They're still struggling over there, too, and I like that.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

Totally.

[C]

I'm most worried about Joe Bradley because I have a feeling for his 30th birthday, he's gonna owe a lot of money. He's supposed to sell 500 tickets.

[A]

5 months rent he's putting towards it. 5 months rent? I said last week, well, obviously they're just coming to his city. He's invited them to town. I think there's some tricky stuff happening behind the scenes. Five months rent. And then I thought, is he in that apartment complex that they're all living in, or is he actually living with Maddie? How much is the rent in Charleston?

[C]

I don't think. Crazy in Charleston. Coming from California, he was living in

[A]

a studio before in that joint apartment complex, I'm convinced. But maybe a studio goes for, like, I'm going to be generous, 1200. I have.

[C]

I have no idea.

[A]

Yeah, like, a studio in LA is quite more expensive, but I would assume maybe in Charleston, 1500. So let's just say he's doing that. Five months rent. That's $7,500. For what? To rent the space.

[C]

I have a feeling he's going to end up owing money to the band out of his own pocket. They're setting this up for that.

[A]

Feel free to charge your friends. Feel free to charge your friends. I know it's RIP to your 20s, but if you need to sell Some tickets. Feel free to charge for your friends. There's also something about it that feels a little. And maybe this is a line between normal person and reality star, but it does feel weird to throw a birthday party and have random people attending.

[C]

I think he might have bit off a little bit more than he could chew because he will basically know, I would say 50 people out of the 500. So 10%. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. We're doing, like, guerrilla marketing here, where we're doing TikToks with links, Instagram stories with links. Please come to my birthday.

[C]

There's a lot of desperation there. But I think you're right. Like, Maddie and him don't live together. And it's very interesting because she is tracking him and it's not working out for him, the tracking, because he has been about where he's been. He'll say, oh, I'm working at Republic. And then he'll be at the bars and Maddie has eyes on him at all times. I also imagine Maddie gets a lot of DMS if he's out. And I'm. I'm sure he talks to women out in terms of, like, people come up to him, he takes photos, nothing crazy. I think he's so in love with Maddie.

[A]

He said he enjoys that for one hour. Okay. And then he's done with it. But then I also started thinking, too. This storyline kind of came out of nowhere. All of a sudden. The drinking, her not trusting him went from zero to a hundred at the end of the episode that I was like, did I. Did I miss something? What's happening here? I know we have the Joe is lazy storyline that has kind of been going throughout, but with Joe and Maddie, all of a sudden she was pissed at him because he was out. And then I'm like, whose story am I supposed to believe here? Because according to Maddie, to him, he's like, I never said that I was working. Yesterday. I literally sent you a photo of me in bed at 11:30pm and here's my Uber receipt.

[C]

I think that Joe might have a little Craig in him, and I think he is gaslighting.

[A]

You think he's a storyteller and a lawyer liar.

[C]

I don't think he would do anything to upset Maddie or cheat or anything like that, but I feel like his escape right now is alcohol. So I think he might bend the truth when it comes to working versus drinking. I feel like for him, anything is working. He's like, I'm a creator. I'm an Instagram star. I'm a reality star. If I leave the house, I'm working.

[A]

I am a public figure. So if I. If I go from Republic to Lamar's, these are establishments I frequent. And people come up to me when I take those pictures. I'm mugging Zoolander. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I am there to pull up Lamar's and say what a great establishment this is. Even if I'm not clocked in, I'm always clocked in. I'm clocked in on life. Maddie.

[C]

He's constantly working. When he's on King street, he's working the whole time.

[A]

I'm up and down, up and down.

[C]

He can meet people at a new bar to bring them to Republic, to Lamar. He's selling tables left and right. Only four at a time, though.

[A]

Weak sauce. But not only that. As we mentioned before, he's just taking them from another Leva establishment to another Leva establishment. So the money is circulating all in the same place. You want to get a Zachary Daiquiri, then you're going to Lamar's for Sir Wieners, and then you're going for Republic to see Emmy crash out. It's very cyclical.

[C]

It also made me think, how many of them actually work there when we're not filming? So does Michaels actually work there? T.J. so say yes. Okay. Because obviously, like, Molly doesn't. I don't think Lake actually works there.

[A]

No, I think she does.

[C]

Oh, what about Emmy?

[A]

Okay, so our friend sent us when she was in Charleston, but I'm not sure when that trip was. It might have been a year or two ago. She was at Republic, and Emmy was her waitress with the signs and the sparklers. So I think that they all maybe clock in once or twice. I don't think Joe so much and Maddie so much. Maybe they do more appearances, but I don't think that they're big enough right now to not be working there. So I would say yes. I think they all bop around all the different establishments, too. Like, I don't think that they're just working at Republic. I think sometimes they're working Lamars. I think sometimes it's Zachary's, Daiquiri's, Urban, and Bubbles. Why can I remember all these? There are different places across that they're all checking into and working, and so I think it's part of it. I don't think they've reached that level of fame where they're being mobbed Vanderpump style. If they were working.

[C]

Totally. I'd just be curious how many people actually work there. So we're thinking T.J. michaels, Emmy Lake.

[A]

They actually, I would say Maddie pops in for a DJ set every so often. Like, I don't know that how often she's actually working. But I think that they're all somewhat clocking in for the season, and then they just kind of rotate throughout because I could also see their life going back to normal when they're not filming. They have all of these side ventures, too, but I don't think that that's paying the bills. I think being a reality star and being the face of these establishments is actually what's paying their bills.

[C]

Yeah. Let's talk about Michael's modeling career. I think he is so good looking, so handsome. I feel like he could really, if he gets aligned with the right people, truly get in that industry.

[A]

Yes. I think he's so handsome and he's tall, gorgeous, beautiful. Landed a cover. We're obviously going to see that photo shoot next week. There is something about this level of delusion you have to have for yourself. So I feel like when people watch it and they hear him say Tommy Hilfiger, Calvin inclined, they might laugh at it. Right? Like, okay, big dreams there. But also you have to have those big dreams because you need to put yourself like, I'm going to be on a billboard in Times Square. That's what the goal is. Reach for the stars.

[C]

I'm Delulu, because I didn't even think that was crazy. I think he has a look. I think he's very charming. I feel like he is very serious when he gets passionate about something and he can take on the world, Joe Bradley could take on a little something from him.

[A]

Do you think, especially when we get to talk about Lake and him, do you think that affects him or do you think that that won't be a problem? Based on somewhat of the work ethic we see? Because he's a hard worker, he's running a multi million dollar establishment. Okay, but does that affect him or is that part of the personality that he can play up and say, oh, this is just the TV character I play. Obviously, it's heightened, and you have to have, you know, drama in order to create storylines. I. When you see me on set, I'm a perfect candidate for why you should be hiring me.

[C]

He feels like a person that sees black or white. There's no gray for him. So he goes all in on everything and in his friendships, too. So, like, right now with Lake, he's like, I am not speaking to you right now because I'm upset with you, and I'm not gonna Fake it. And you are in timeout with me.

[A]

When did he say that to her? Mary, when did he say that? He literally has made everybody know except for her that he's not talking to her. He's actually pretty rude to her when he's speaking with Emmy and says, get out of here. We don't need an audience. I don't think at any point did he say to Lake until the dinner table of what he actually felt in the situation.

[C]

I'm okay with that. He needed some time. He needed some space. He's upset with her. She knows why because she was the one that went and told Ella everything.

[A]

Obviously, she knows why, but I think that there is a conversation that they could have had prior where he said, I need some space. I'm really upset with you. As opposed to having other people tell Lake why he's so upset.

[C]

That seems fair and logical. This is reality tv.

[A]

You're right. My bad. My bad. Okay, let's take a break.

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I don't believe a word Justin says about anything. But the way he says it, I'm like, that makes sense.

[C]

That feels accurate. I would say, you think so I'm gonna believe it.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Then I started laughing because the theme of the dinner was the hoedown. And when Joe Bradley comes out I said, you're no Rob Rousch.

[C]

He is so excited to get into that costume and then he starts overthinking it. He's like, was this a practical joke on me? Am I the only going to be dressed up? He's so self involved. I love it. He's a really a young Tom Sandoval to me in so many ways.

[A]

Delusion. It is funny though because he's like, is it too early to get dressed up? And they're like, no. So then he gets dressed up and he's like, am I the only One dressing up like Joe. You just asked if it was too early. They said no, but you're the only one dressed up because it's too early. Everyone has to shower, Joe. Don't worry. Also, it's not like he's in a clown outfit with clown makeup on. He's in freaking overalls with no shirt.

[C]

I just imagine it was so hot filming that day. I feel like everyone was really sticky and sweaty and like there were gross smells in the air and bugs.

[A]

Oh, 100. Humidity was at 150%.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Blake is by the dock, and she is Zoloft Rock over there. She is anxious. She's talking to Bella, which I'm like, we need to know Bella's part of the cast or not. She's on the cast trip and Jordan's not. Who is part of this cast and who is a friend of. And she's saying, I'm not mad at Ella for, like, blowing up my spot. Michaels is being a little. She has such bad anxiety. She used to take medication for it. That the way that she copes is by confiding in people. Now I understand what she means by that. But when somebody tells you not to tell somebody, as in Michael saying, hey, keep this combo between us. You going and then telling it, because that helps your anxiety, not the way to do it. Maybe go have another conversation with Michaels and talk to him about it. But spreading gossip and saying that's a way that you confide and it lowers your anxiety. Probably not the right answer.

[C]

Oh, see, I read that situation completely different. Oh, she was getting anxiety from Michaels, and the person she would usually vent to and talk about that to would be Michaels, but she can't because he's the one that gave her anxiety.

[A]

Oh, I thought it was about the microaggression conversation that she needed to go talk to people about that.

[C]

Oh, I'm totally.

[A]

Two different combos. I think they both gave her anxiety. I think the first round of anxiety was from the conversation with Michaels, which is why she told Ella she was confiding in Ella. She didn't think that Ella was gonna go tell Emmy. Now she has anxiety, though, because Michaels is mad at her for confiding in Ella, and she can't go talk to Michaels because she has rising anxiety from being mad at him. Two levels of anxiety for Lake over there.

[C]

She's. That's tough. Her stomach is hurting.

[A]

Then we go back outside, and now Michael's. He's in his costume. He's got the overalls on. He is also wearing a Tank top, though, covering the nips there. And the conversation about him going to cotillion. Did you go to cotillion as a kid?

[C]

No. Did you? Yeah. Oh, tell us about that.

[A]

It'd be like, one Monday a month. I freaking hated it. I hated it because you had to get dressed up, and it was at 5:00pm, which to me, as a fifth grader, this is late.

[C]

You're like, that's my dinner hour.

[A]

Yeah. And like, I have to learn manners, which apparently hasn't translated. It didn't stick with me. But you get dressed up in, like, these fancy dresses, and then girls would be on one side, boys would be on the other, and you had to, like, learn how to dance properly. And then it was like, proper manners and etiquette. I hated it.

[C]

So would they have, like, a fake table and teach you how to use the forks? Where do you. You put your napkin?

[A]

We would sit at, like, round tables and be in, like, a hotel ballroom. A hotel ballroom by South Coast Plaza. You would go in there, and they'd have, like, the round banquet tables, and everybody would sit there and you do manners lesson. And then you would go and do these dances.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it wasn't good music, but anyways, Michaels was doing cotillion, and then he did ballroom dancing. And then when TJ's like. And his parents were surprised he was gay.

[C]

I know, right?

[A]

That made me laugh. I really actually enjoyed TJ and Michaels this episode. They were making me giggle.

[C]

What do we think about this relationship blossoming?

[A]

I'm kind of into it. I mean, last week we got where they were describing each other. I think Michaels is in a hoe phase right now, as he's told us 150 different times. A whole phase. But he's polite. I think when he's ready to have a relationship. And if TJ's single at that point, I think they could be a good match. I do think that Michaels needs a couple of years of seeing what's out there, doing what he wants, and having fun. I think he's just so young right now, too.

[C]

He also presents way older. Like, if you told me he was in his 30s, I would completely believe you. He's like, 24, right? 22, maybe.

[A]

Yeah, I would believe you. Until he's mad at someone, and then it gets, like, thrown out the window. But a level of professionalism at work and how he manages everybody, I think he does a fantastic, fantastic job.

[C]

Great.

[A]

What do you. Do you like them? Do you like them together?

[C]

I don't think I like them Together. But I will say, them hooking up to Salt Lake City, that had me rolling. They're like, we gotta watch Salt Lake City. And then you just hear them start kissing. And I was hysterically laughing like, I

[A]

like whatever you put on your butt. I was like, oh, are we doing, like, flavored lube? I would like Andy to ask that at the reunion. What flavor was it? For some reason, I picture green apple.

[C]

Like when you asked Dorit what was her cigarette brand. He's asking, what's your lube brand flavor?

[A]

What's your lube flavor of choice?

[C]

Courtney from LA writes in tj, when

[A]

you were in Michael's were hooking up. Michael said he enjoyed whatever you put on your butt. Could you tell us the flavor of lube and brand for the masses?

[C]

Courtney from la.

[A]

It's. It's a real. I'm honestly interested. Not for my own personal use. I just feel like they put that out there. And now I'm like, well, what was it?

[C]

They should have a commercial for Loop.

[A]

I mean, they have one for everything else. It's like, oh, Sutton's got diarrhea these days. Now. Have you seen that commercial?

[C]

I have, like, a stomach bloating.

[A]

I said, we all have our price.

[C]

Exactly. Lisa Rinna Depends. That's the best deal she ever had.

[A]

I'm like, I'll. I'll talk about shitting myself for seven figures. Honestly, I'd probably do it for six or five. What would be your price to talk about shitting yourself?

[C]

Sleep.

[A]

Like 50k?

[C]

Sure. I'd do it for that. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Y' all have a price on it. You have to start small because you need to get the deal first.

[C]

Yeah, maybe like 75.

[A]

You just don't want to turn into flow, like the progressive woman, the insurance. You don't want to be the face of diarrhea because she is so typecast as Flow. If you were to feed her, even when she plays her sister in the commercials, I'm like, but that's flow, right? Right. So you just do need to be careful of that. Do not become the face of diarrhea.

[C]

Okay. The face of Pepto or something like that.

[A]

Whatever it is.

[C]

Emodium.

[A]

Be careful, be careful. Don't sell yourself too low, because they're going to re up the contract, you know? And then it's like, oh, there's Mary, the face of diarrhea. You don't want to be that guy.

[C]

I do not. I do not.

[A]

But 75,000 guys, that's her selling point.

[C]

I mean, are you in on this for 75.

[A]

Like we're doing it together. Like we're the faces of diarrhea.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Well, we both need 75.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so 150 total. Yeah, we, we work in tandem, guys. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna consider it. I'm gonna consider it. Okay, back to the show.

[C]

Let's talk about Brad and Emmy. Because Emmy's like, all weekend, she wants to get this conversation over with. She's like, I gotta sit him down. I just have to explain myself. He, he clearly doesn't understand what I meant by what I was saying.

[A]

When I said unsafe, he took that at face value. And then when I said I wasn't sorry, he believed me. Why I gotta change this story.

[C]

She was like, I'm just gonna go into this conversation. I'm just gonna say, this is what I felt and this is what I meant it. Okay. You literally use the word unsafe.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

She still doesn't understand why the word is wrong, but she's very hyper aware of being called the R word. She's very worried that she's going to be called that, but she doesn't understand what a microaggression is. So she can't help herself that she

[A]

can't just say, you know what, I'm sorry, and no, but, no, and no, whatever. Because she knows she can't blame Justin, which is the one that she told I'm not sorry. And so she's trying to figure out a way to get out of this, but she literally can't. And Brad is so done with it now. Last week, I thought it was because Brad wanted a group because he wanted to make sure that everybody could hear what was being said, but he's just so sick of her and so done with her that at this point he's like, you can say whatever you want. I'm literally timing this. And then I'm not gonna accept it because I'm so over this.

[C]

Because you keep contradicting yourself, right? You know, you say, sorry, but like, you have to give context and excuses.

[A]

She literally goes, there's no context needed.

[C]

I, I, I, you know, I, I didn't mean to offend you. I wish I had changed the word unsafe. Like, but this is what I felt. And I just want to clarify. My safety was never a concern concern. And you know, I'm sorry. I've been, like, passive in my apology. And he's like, dude, I don't believe anything you're saying because literally you went behind my back and, and said the truth. And at the end of the day, it's that she doesn't understand a microaggression, which she needs to get educated really quickly.

[A]

Well, not only that, though, she actually doesn't want to be sorry. She's not sorry for what she said. She's sorry that people are potentially calling her racist. And you saying that. And so she's trying to say, no, I'm not racist, but actually, I thought that you would ruin my life.

[C]

Yeah. And she feels silenced.

[A]

It is literally crazy because he's like, you know, you say one thing, and then later on, you change your mind. You're contradicting yourself. I don't believe a word that comes out of your mouth. You said, sorry, I'm folly. But then you said you were afraid I would ruin your life. You should say sorry. No context, no excuses. And Emmy's like, but I met my apology. Like, I would rather make up than attack each other. And he's like, no, no, no. I am hurt, and this is bullshit. And I'm over and I'm done talking about it. And he just walks away. And good for Brad, because it's true. He's like, you're never gonna understand this. I cannot keep explaining this to you. Like, I told Lake I would have the conversation with you. We're trying to have the conversation, and you just can't shut up. You can't just listen to what I'm telling you, Take it in and say, I hear you. I see you. I am sorry. And leave it at that. Because she's so concerned with her own image. Because when she's now sit. Because Brad has walked away and she's hyperventilating, crying, which is like, oh, my God. Like, shut up, Emmy. And I love when Michaels comes up because he's done this to her multiple times. He did this to her like, last season when she had a full freak out. He's like, stop, Breathe. Calm down.

[C]

And then is becoming the victim once again.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

He got so angry with me, you know, I didn't get to see my people piece. You said your piece. The problem is he doesn't believe you because you already have done the exact same thing and went behind his back. So we can't trust you. Like, her playing the sympathy card is bullshit, and I'm so over it. I was shocked that Mia went in and tried to help her.

[A]

I was shocked by that before that Maddie comes out there and is like, well, Emmy really does deserve to tell her side. She has told her side. We don't need her to continue to tell the same story in a different way, different font. Okay, we don't need that from her. And then when she was like, and you know, and he hasn't apologized to me for what? No, at this point, for what? You guys were supposed to move on in the folly and then you decided to run your mouth again and say you weren't sorry. You are at fault.

[C]

And she doesn't understand that. But also at the same time, she's just trying to, like, change the narrative and like, become the victim now.

[A]

Exactly. And it's not working.

[C]

No.

[A]

Let's take a break and then let's talk dinner.

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[C]

Emmy is alone in the house. She's isolating. Mia really did her a favor by coming, and she's like, okay, come on. Like, let's get it together. You should definitely have dinner with us. You don't want to isolate. And Emmy's like, you know, I'm trying to take accountability. It's like, no, you're not. This is. I was dying, though. When they're like, let's take a minute and see Grace.

[A]

Grace. I don't want to say grace. I'd rather say prayer. Wavy baby. Wavy baby. Wavy baby. I was like, oh, Grace. Lily. I know when she was talking to Mia, Mia says to Emmy, and she goes, now, look, if you were Brad, you wouldn't like you either. And Emmy goes, I know that's true. And I'm like, wait, what? Mia's just literally told you that Brad shouldn't like you because of, like. Because of who you are. And you agree with that? What? So crazy.

[C]

So nutty. And then she just comes to the dinner, is like, I guess I should be wearing waterproof mascara.

[A]

Okay, let's talk, too, because at dinner, she's smoking a joint.

[C]

I was shocked by that. I guess she's not sober, though. She just had. Hasn't drank alcohol in two years. Besides the one tequila shot. I think she just. I think a lot of people don't drink alcohol anymore, and she doesn't. To be honest, this group isn't really big drinkers, I would say.

[A]

What? We literally are being shown empty tequila bottles. We're talking about how Molly's just sipping tequila from her red solo cup, and that's why? She looks like Cruella Deville in the morning. Everyone is so annoyed that Justin is waking them up at 7:00am because, you know, you don't have to check out that Airbnb until 11.

[C]

Okay, so you might be on to something.

[A]

I'm thinking everybody's making out with each other because they're under the influence here.

[C]

Oh, yeah, the Mia and Justin make out. What did you think?

[A]

Well, I did think it was not as salacious as I wanted it to be. I was hoping that they were making out because they, like, wanted to make out with each other, and then it wasn't more like it was a dare.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

But they did it multiple times. I. And that was because TJ and Michael's made out, so then they had to.

[A]

I think that was alcohol induced. I. I'd agree with that.

[C]

What did you think about him calling Jordan the next morning?

[A]

How is he dating Charlie? Is the question I keep asking. How is he dating Charlie? I mean, do we have our next Wes Wilson on our hands?

[C]

Ooh, no. Because I think he's in a legit relationship with her. But I feel bad for Jordan, you know? And then I didn't like that they were like, like, oh, Mia, aren't you friends with Jordan? She's like, no. I don't even send her memes. I'm like, they're not friends.

[A]

Mia has told us we're not friends. They're obviously co workers. They're not even co workers because I don't know if Jordan's actually on the cast. She's really just kind of a friend of. And she's Molly's roommate. Molly is Mia's friend, and Jordan is Molly's roommate.

[C]

Right. And I think Mia isn't gonna really give him the time of day. It was just like, a really innocent kiss.

[A]

The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else.

[C]

It's very true.

[A]

Proverbs 4:15. Obviously, the big fight here is Lake and Michael's and Mia, she's kind of starting it. She's like, so, like, what's going on? Well, you're giving me some teenage girl angst at the volleyball game after tubing. What's happening? She's like, I'm just drinking a Coke. And then they're like, lake, like, speak up. And Michael just kind of goes in on her.

[C]

He laid into her. You broke my trust. I told you not to talk to anyone about this, and now you're lying about it. Stop lying. Stop lying. And you don't get to play the victim. Now it's not about you, and I can't be friends if you break my trust. She's hysterical.

[A]

She gets up and leaves, and he, like, chases after her to go in on her a little bit more. I think everything's being heightened because obviously we've been drinking all day. This was the combo, though, that Lake was looking for, but not to this degree, right? Like, you're really mad at her because she broke your trust. You feel like she is your family. And that betrayal was even stronger because you consider her family, and that really upsets you. But, like, to go after her when she's walking away, even the group was like, oh, this is getting a little crazy.

[C]

He. He is very cold, and he is not going to feel bad for her at all.

[A]

Don't speak to me. I don't care. We don't have to be friends. I don't feel bad for you. I'm feeling bad for Lake, though, because she's feeling isolated in this group right now anyways. And then you're like, is her best friend Emmy going to go stick up for her or go comfort her? And she gets up, and you think, finally, Emmy is going to go make sure that Lake's okay.

[C]

No, this was the music they had going. She's like, oh, like, you know, it's okay. It's not your fault. And then she's like, this had nothing to do with Brad's skin color, and I didn't get to express that to him. You know, I just needed to say my piece. And it's like, wait, Emmy, this is not about you right now. This is about Lake.

[A]

Like, Lake is hysterically crying. Like, she's giving me real hyperventilating crying, where Emmy, I think, is acting. And Lake is just then sitting there staring at her, like, stone cold, being like, are you fucking kidding me?

[C]

Like, how can you make this about you right now? Also, the reason why I'm in such a bad fight with Michaels is literally because of you.

[A]

You are this problem, and then you won't even let me have a moment

[C]

to be upset that me and Michael's my. My family, my brother is upset with me and never wants to talk to me again, and you can't even give me that moment.

[A]

How is this possible? Emmy's like, give me a hug. It's gonna be okay. And you can just tell. Lake is like, I can't believe. At this point, I'd rather go sit at the dinner table. Brad has walked away at this point, too, because, like you said, like, the crux of it all starts from Emmy and Brad. And Brad's like, I don't even know how Michael's in Lake got to this degree because I forgave Lake. And obviously this issue goes, like, way deeper than what's happening right now. But when Lake comes back, she's trying to explain, hey, you guys, I have anxiety. Confiding in others helps me cope. Michaels, I'm sorry I broke your trust. Everyone's crying at this point now too. And it's like, it hurts to see how angry you are. I will always be an advocate and stand behind others. He not talking to you. You walked by me and not even acknowledging me. And she's apologizing to everybody at the table. And everyone's like, like, it's totally okay. It's okay. Michaels ends up forgiving her. And then they pan to Emmy and she is ripping that joint. What about.

[C]

She is so pissed at this moment. Like, Brad accept Lace apology.

[A]

It's like, it's so funny because it's like, again, Emmy, how can I make it about me? She wants to make it about her so bad that that weed is not a calming one. She's so riled. Like, what about. Has anyone checked on Emmy? Is now going to be the. Has anyone checked on Sheena? Emmy's a mess.

[C]

I would love to see the text between Will and Emmy from this night.

[A]

All caps lock from Emmy. Yeah. Can you believe this? This is. I am being attacked left and right. They can do the show without me on the star of this freaking show. What would they even have to talk about if I wasn't here? They think I'm racist. A microaggression. No, it is just full rage texting. She is Tequila Katie.

[C]

But it's cannabis Emmy.

[A]

Cannabis Emmy. Yeah, I like that. I like that. And then we leave. I'm like, this is a one night trip.

[C]

One night. And we go back to Charleston and Maddie and Joe, they're having some tough times. He feels lost.

[A]

That's why I'm like, this kind of came out of nowhere. And then them also being like, it's been five years. You deserve this. Like, nobody deserves anything being handed to them. However, it does feel like it might have been something dangled of him being the face and he freaking blew it. And obviously we know from like last season when he had to sit down and Levis. I don't go follow Maddie on tour. Keep doing what you're doing because that's working. But Leva was. She was like, oh, four tables. That's lame ass. Weak sauce. You guys are effing lamebos. L7 weenies. You can't book it. I'm like, where's HR? Why don't we sell some tables? I feel like it's like a Monday night and it's like the slowest night of the bar. And she's like, you guys are so weak. You're selling your eyes just so lame that you can't sell it. A single table at Republic. Like, losers.

[C]

You guys, this is probably the only nightclub in Charleston. Like, Charleston is so small.

[A]

Republic does not even feel that big to me. Like, I see their map and it looks like there's eight or nine tables, but it doesn't feel like it can hold that many because we get to see when it's raining outside, the inside, it just feels. Feels tiny. I'm going to tell you, when someone yells at me or calls me weak lame asses, I'm not running to sell the tables. You're not gonna insult me and then ask me to make you money, right?

[C]

And I thought it was really funny. The new table he sold was still 60 year old women. There was something so silly about that. He literally found, like the oldest women on the block, gave them a little attention, was like, I can get some girls in here over 50, though, you know?

[A]

Well, you know what, maybe Leva needs to specify age, but that's age discrimin. And you can party at 60 the same way you can party at 30. Now it's too late for Joe. So did Joe have a deadline of when he could potentially have his own bar? She's like, oh, he's trying to do some last minute stuff. I'm like, but is it last minute or is it just the trajectory of him continuing to sell tables? What's the deadline? Leva?

[C]

He just feels lazy, though, at the end of the day, like, he is thinking that something's going to be handed to him when he hasn't worked hard at all. And it's. It's this weird thing because you're like, do you actually work there? Is this a storyline or what's going on?

[A]

Yeah, it makes me laugh because it's. When you, like, view it from. As a viewer, you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe how much they care about this. And then you think about, like, this is their whole lives. Do you know what I mean?

[C]

Yes. Joe needs to have something that he can capitalize on. Like, obviously Maddie has the DJ thing. TJ's trying to get the. This wiener business going.

[A]

Michaels is modeling. Emmy works out a Lot.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Lake has art, Molly has events.

[C]

Right. What could Joe's passion project be? I feel like he's very into his hair. Is he modeling with Fresh Wolf? Is he a spokesperson with this caritis? There's something there. What, what are. What are other ideas that we can workshop for Joey?

[A]

I think he could be the face. He seems to enjoy schmoozing and doing that sort of thing. Is there a hosting capability that he could be doing? Could he go work for the Charleston news or, like, do some sort of like. Like the host.

[C]

Love. He loves the camera.

[A]

He does love the camera. You know, he does mid shift haircuts.

[C]

Okay, so the road tripping thing, maybe he could do like a Charleston. He could have, like, a tour in Charleston.

[A]

Yeah, it's like an Airbnb experience where he takes you to all the hot spots.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And he could do that for Leva.

[C]

We have come up with something for our Joey.

[A]

He just seems like he really enjoys the hosting. Like his job can't be Maddie's boyfriend.

[C]

No, no, that's a good point.

[A]

There is something for him to do. He seems to want to do this, but he doesn't want to put the work in. But Maddie was yelling at him after this shift, like, you know, if you weren't so lazy and going out and drinking, you'd already have a proposal. You'd already be so much further. And I'm wondering, because if you remember in the beginning of the season, too, is that they were talking about Joe following Maddie, and he was like, well, Maddie asked me to come. She has, like, anxiety, and she, like, wants me to be there. And then she's saying, I didn't ask you to come. I don't need you to be there. I'm like, who's telling the stories? Because I'm going left and right. Like, Joe is like, it's all in. He's talking about him going out and drinking. And I just need to know the truth of it all, because I do think that Maddie has trust issues. And I think she probably hates the fact that she's checking location, which leads me to believe that they don't live together at this point too. Right. Because if he goes out, it sounds like he might live closer to the downtown area if he's in that apartment complex with all of them. I gotta get to the bottom of this because I know multiple of them are staying there there.

[C]

I think you're on to something there,

[A]

and I'm probably not. I'm gaslighting myself.

[C]

Do you think Joe Bradley will Give up drinking for a bit.

[A]

Maybe I would be interested. What is Joe like when he goes out to the bar? And I would think, too, she says it's really triggering to her sobriety, and especially when she thinks she's being gaslit by him. I'm like, is he lying to her? Like, this is crazy. And are these the fights that they have? Like, these are not healthy fights.

[C]

I think he is lying and trying to manipulate the situation. I also think I'm really used to seeing people wasted on camera. All of Vanderkamp rules, like Roni, you know, so I missed that a little bit, you know?

[A]

Yeah, it just. I think you make a good point. When she's like, you told me you were working at Republic. And he's like, no, no, I was going out to Republic. But that is work. Right? You said he's always on. He's always clocked into his own life.

[C]

Wife.

[A]

Poor Maddie. She is, like, going a little cuckoo. And then I'm sure she thinks too, oh, great. Another person on this show who is going to potentially make me think I'm crazy. She's still reeling from all the Trevor stuff. Like, is something else going on with this boyfriend? And she said too is like, I've never had a boyfriend where I'm more concerned about their drinking than cheating.

[C]

I know, I know.

[A]

But we know they're still technically together, so I hope they work through this. Maybe emo knight will really bring back together.

[C]

Maybe he laid off the sauce a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, I. I hope that they figure things out because he wants to marry her, but he can't marry her as a hostess.

[C]

I'm rooting for them. I like them a lot as a couple, so. And I think we got a tour guide business and some hair product modeling. There's something there. Yeah.

[A]

All right. Well, until the next one. See you guys later.

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Bye.

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