TJG: Summer House Friday Updates // RHOBH S15 E16 // Southern Hospitality S4 E5!

Summary

Two Judgey Girls

Episode: TJG: Summer House Friday Updates // RHOBH S15 E16 // Southern Hospitality S4 E5
Date: April 3, 2026
Hosts: Mary (The Bay Area) & Courtney (Los Angeles)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode covers a packed week in reality TV, with Courtney and Mary recapping the whirlwind news from Summer House, diving into the intense drama of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) Season 15, Episode 16, and offering hilarious, detail-rich commentary on Southern Hospitality Season 4, Episode 5. Expect plenty of insider speculation, pop culture tangents, and genuine reality gossip, all delivered with the duo’s signature wit and camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Personal Updates & Reality TV Overload

[02:44–06:34]

• Mary’s Warriors Game Night:
  Mary describes her rare midweek outing to the Warriors game against Cleveland, gifted by Michael. She shares a fun fan-encounter story and her excitement for a weekend reset.

  “I love Steph Curry. He didn’t play… But it was, you know, fun to see an NBA game.” [03:37, Mary]

• Courtney’s Pop Culture Juggle:
  Courtney laments feeling “behind on shows” and grappling with screen overload. She’s also stressed about planning for Coachella, weather worries, and simply catching a break from the reality TV news cycle.

  “My eyes have hurt this week from being attached to different screens all week trying to keep up.” [05:02, Courtney]

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2. Summer House Scandals & Speculation

[06:34–19:49]

• Kyle’s Loverboy Drama:
  Discussion turns to Kyle’s public ask for fans to support Loverboy, with Mary praising the merch and Courtney marveling at Kyle’s “fantastic” skin despite his party lifestyle.

  “Drop the skincare routine, Kyle. And I know this man is just throwing a bar of soap… probably Dove soap and water.” [07:10, Courtney]

• Breakup Theories and Fan Speculation:
  The hosts dissect conspiracy theories that the current drama is a PR stunt, firmly dismissing those rumors.

• Rihanna-Sierra Romance Rumors:
  Allegations that Rihanna is matchmaking Sierra from Summer House with a recently awarded A-lister (possibly Michael B. Jordan), with wild speculation (including Sean Penn jokes) and ‘manifesting’ Sierra’s rise to celebrity status.

  “Imagine opening your DMs and seeing bad gal rih blue check mark. I simply pass away.” [09:16, Courtney]

• Cryptic Social Media Posts & Codebreaking:
  The hosts attempt to decode Lindsay’s cryptic “keyboard smash” Instagram story, hypothesizing it refers to reunion no-shows (possibly Amanda or West) and marveling at the drama’s intensity.

  “It feels like we got the Wheel of Fortune. We got the final puzzle.” [16:50, Mary]

• Viral “Carl Is A Mess” Meme:
  Both celebrate the new “Carl is a mess” meme that’s taken over Summer House fandom, likening it to classic Bravo catchphrases.

  “It’s the new ‘Has anyone checked on Sheena?’ Because out of all the things that Kyle could have said in that interview, why is Carl a mess?” [19:12, Courtney]

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3. RHOBH S15E16: The Dinner Fight That Shook the Franchise

[19:49–42:05]

• Dinner Drama Deconstructed:
  Mary and Courtney declare this one of the best episodes “this season,” lauding a tension-filled dinner where true feelings emerge and alliances crumble.

  “I would like to say I think this is one of the best episodes of this season, this dinner. Wow.” [19:49, Mary]

• Erika vs Dorit vs Kyle:
  Deep dive into the shifting dynamics—Kyle bluntly ending her friendship with Dorit, Erika mediating before reaching her breaking point, and the group discussing REAL issues rather than glossing over.

  “Just to watch the dynamics. And finally Kyle to say, I don’t really like you. I don’t want to be your friend... this is what we’ve been waiting for. Because this actually felt like a real conversation, as opposed to the shit that they do...” [22:07, Courtney] “She put a wedge between Erika and Dorit, and it became more about Erika and Dorit, and Kyle got to kind of slither out, which upset me...” [23:18, Mary]

• “Trauma Olympics,” Finances, and Real Life:
  Erika and Dorit’s friendship fractures as their personal traumas clash. Mary is team Erika (“what Erika has gone through is worse”), while Courtney points out that “in this argument, everyone’s a loser.”

• Fourth Wall Breaking:
  The hosts love the episode’s meta moments and speculation about alliance politics and production behind the scenes, including Dorit’s book party and the real meaning behind “I could blow up her whole life” versus “I could end you.”

  “I hate when they do these semantic conversations... But I don’t think she was saying it threateningly.” [35:24–35:53]

• Dorit’s Book, “Unburdened”:
  The hosts poke fun at the delayed book launch timing compared to the season, joke about Dorit’s late-ness and make predictions for a juicy reunion.

  “It was a missed opportunity. She’s always late.” [40:48, Mary]

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4. Southern Hospitality S4E5: The New School Vanderpump

[42:52–53:46]

• Joe Bradley’s Emo Night and Luann Encounter:
  Joe throwing Emo Night for his 30th birthday leads to comparisons with Tom Sandoval and LA’s club scene. Hilariously retells Joe’s “eggs à la Français” sleepover with Luann, with Courtney imagining Lu in a “morning fedora.”

  “He has no idea how special he should feel for being a part of the eggs a la Français lore.” [44:28, Courtney]

• Brad & Emmy Feud:
  Emmy feigns ignorance after apologizing for calling Brad “unsafe.” The hosts side with Brad and cackle at Emmy’s “I’m being silenced” martyr routine.

  “She claims she is being silenced. I was like, all right, Oprah. I know. Get up.” [50:12, Courtney]

• Lake vs. Michaels (Microaggressions Drama):
  They debate Michaels’ refusal to fake it with Lake after she repeats damaging gossip, and speculate on their friendship’s fate after Lake’s mom’s “pull your shit together” phone call.

  “Her mom’s like, why would you have told her that? Keep your mouth shut.” [47:06, Mary]

• Maddie’s Airbnb Disaster Stories:
  Tales of “trash behavior” with rental property destruction amuse and horrify both hosts.

• TJ & Michaels Shipping:
  The producers lean into a possible romance, with tongue-in-cheek editing.

  “The editing … Give him an Emmy. Not the Emmy on the show, the award.” [51:34, Courtney]

• Hopes for Justin & Mia:
  They discuss Mia moving on, joke about unclaimed insurance on a YSL purse, and Mary predicts no romance (“I don’t even know about a kiss”)—but Courtney reminds her the next episode previews a makeout.

• Overall Impression:
  The show is lovingly dubbed “so OG Vanderpump…there’s so much happening and nothing at the same time,” with the cast praised for being fun and unguarded.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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On Reality TV Exhaustion:

“My eyes have hurt this week from being attached to different screens all week trying to, like, keep up.”
— Courtney [05:02]

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On Viral Bravo Moments:

“It’s the new ‘Has anyone checked on Sheena?’ … ‘Carl’s a mess’.”
— Courtney [19:12]

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On the Dinner Drama (RHOBH):

“I would like to say I think this is one of the best episodes of this season, this dinner. Wow.”
— Mary [19:49]

“Just to watch the dynamics. And finally Kyle to say, I don’t really like you. I don’t want to be your friend... this is what we’ve been waiting for.”
— Courtney [22:07]

“In this argument, I’m sorry, but everyone’s a loser. Dorit beat Kyle. Erika beat Dorit.”
— Courtney [25:48]

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On Friendships and Loyalty:

“Dorit’s always been about herself. She’s always been late. She takes care of number one, which is doritos. She loves herself, which, you know, you have to be your own biggest fan.”
— Mary [27:24]

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On Emmy (Southern Hospitality):

“Her eyes are frightening to me. The wide eyes, like she is Aaron from the Valley…Emmy’s like, I did nothing… I did nothing.”
— Courtney [48:14–49:06]

“She claims she is being silenced. I was like, all right, Oprah. I know. Get up.”
— Courtney [50:12]

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Celebrity Dream-Casting & “What If” Scenarios:

“Imagine opening your DMs and seeing bad gal rih blue check mark. I simply pass away.”
— Courtney [09:16]

“The athlete angle would be epic. Like someone on the Kansas City Chiefs. And then she gets to be friends with Taylor [Swift].”
— Mary [10:54]

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Important Timestamps

• Personal Catch-ups & Weekend Plans: [02:44–06:34]
• Summer House Updates (Kyle, Sierra, social media drama): [06:34–19:49]
• RHOBH Full Recap: [19:49–42:05]
• Southern Hospitality Recap: [42:52–53:46]

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a marathon of Bravo fandom—filled with deep dives, social media sleuthing, hilarious hypotheticals, and nuanced reads on friendship politics both on and off screen. Mary and Courtney’s chemistry, humor, and honesty make for a detailed and entertaining round-up—perfect for anyone seeking the juiciest moments without the screen time commitment.

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Transcript

[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

Welcome back to two Judgy Girls. This is Mary from the Big A

[Courtney]

and it's Courtney from la. We got one more for you for the week. What a freaking week. It has been. It's like trying to stay on regularly scheduled programming while all also addressing the summer house of it all. While also having two new shows premiering this week. It has been non stop. How are you doing?

[Mary]

I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. I went to the warriors game last night. I don't like to go out during the week. I don't like to go out at all. But I did it and I'm here to talk to you. We'll update the west side Story. We're gonna do Beverly Hills. We're gonna do SoHo. And I'm just ready for the weekend, babe.

[Courtney]

Now, how was it for you to essentially last night touch grass?

[Mary]

Okay. It was kind of wild. It's actually pretty funny too. So they played the Cleveland Cavaliers.

[Courtney]

Okay. I was gonna ask who they were playing. Okay.

[Mary]

So this was Michael's Christmas gift. I was like, we're gonna go on April 2nd to the game. I've actually never been to a professional NBA game, so that was kind of exciting. I love Steph Curry. He didn't play. He's hurt. But it was, you know, fun to see an NBA game. And we met up with some of Michael's friends from Cleveland before and. And then we walk away and I guess this girl was like, that girl looks so familiar. That girl looks so familiar. And then she came back and was like, I was listening to you this morning. I love that shout out Eve that lives in the sunset. But she was catching up on the whole west side story.

[Courtney]

And.

[Mary]

And yeah, I mean, I got home by 10, a reasonable time. And I'm just ready for the weekend. I'm ready tomorrow to not watch tv to touch some grass. Preparing for Easter. We're going to my sister's for Easter. I'm in charge of bringing the ham and just some Costco croissants. That reminds me, I need to.

[Courtney]

She's gotta go to Costco after this.

[Mary]

No, I get a send. Michael.

[Courtney]

Of course.

[Mary]

And yeah. What about you?

[Courtney]

I feel like I'm so behind on shows that we didn't talk about. So my regularly scheduled program, like, I haven't watched Survivor yet. I've got to watch House of Villains. I have to do all these other things, which feels daunting. My eyes have hurt this week from being attached to different screens all week trying to, like, keep up. But I am hoping. And I know it's my own fault because I know earlier in the. And I think it was Tuesday when the joint statement came out, I had posted that meme of like, do something and then they said, fine, we're gonna do the big one, Courtney. And so I set myself up for that. But I'm hoping that we get a little break from everything because it's supposed to be a lovely weekend here. I would like to enjoy. I've got to figure out my Coachella outfits. The weather is changing by the moment. Apparently next week it's gonna rain too. And I'm like, I can't have a rainy day at a festival. That sounds terrible. So I'm also, like, rethinking everything. I'm excited to relax, though.

[Mary]

Totally. The Doc Martens will be good if it does rain.

[Courtney]

I know. But right now, my current outfits, the Doc Martens, don't go with it. Oh, I know. Because if I'm changing pants, it's a whole thing, guys. Obviously a first world problem here that I'm dealing with. We've had so much going on that I'm just excited to maybe take a break. I say that, and then it's like something's going to start blowing up right now as we're recording. I'm like, oh, my God, cancel everything. We have to talk about it.

[Mary]

Yesterday was pretty quiet, though. The main thing yesterday was Kyle talking to people about how they can support Lover Boy, which was actually hilarious. He's like, you can go and you can buy our merch. You can buy our products that can come straight to your door. You can go to Flower Boy, you can go to your local store. Store and ask them to buy Lover Boy for you. And there are so many people in the comments. I will say that sweatshirt is by far my favorite. I love their merch. So I guess if you want to support Kyle, go to loverboy.com.

[Courtney]

it's funny too, because obviously I saw him post because we too were in the comments and I think I was one of the first to comment on threads and I didn't even watch the video because I was enamored by his skin. Drop the skincare routine, Kyle. And I know this man is just throwing a bar of soap. It's like Dove soap and water. Water. Probably of why his skin looks so fantastic, but it's freaking rude for the amount of stress he's put under because we know he tells us the amount of partying he does. And I'm going to assume the lack of sleep that he gets. And his skin looks like that.

[Mary]

He honestly looks like maybe 28. Who's older?

[Courtney]

Looks older him or West? West. Like he's doing something right. But the video is also funny too, because in the beginning he's like, so originally I was going to make this video anyways, but then all this stuff popped up and so I'm just gonna, like, keep going with it. Now a lot of people are like, oh, my God, is this just an elaborate plan so that they could save lover boy? And I'm like, are you people in stain you think Weston, Amanda were, hey, Kyle, is there anything we could do to help you save the business? And he said, well, if you can't invest in the company, invest in each other.

[Mary]

I think there's, like, people holding out hope still that this was a prank. It's a hoax. They're gonna say, gotcha. But no, guys, we have not been punked. This is real. And you know what is real too? Apparently Rihanna is trying to hook up Sierra with Michael B. Jordan.

[Courtney]

So it does say an a lister. It doesn't say Michael B. Jordan per se. Everyone is just alluding to that. I'm pretty sure Michael B. Jordan has a girlfriend.

[Mary]

Did it say a lister that just won an award though?

[Courtney]

Yes, but we've been in an award season.

[Mary]

Okay, okay, okay. I did not know he had a girlfriend.

[Courtney]

Now maybe it's not to set them up to date. Maybe it's just to connect them and maybe Sierra becomes the next hot actress. Could you imagine opening your DMS and seeing bad gallery re blue check mark I simply pass away. Well, first off, I'd be like, oh, what did I do? Because my I'm going negative first. Oh, God, she's here to yell at me. Something has happened. I have made her upset. And then when I open it and she's like, hey, just wanted to let you know I'm going to start a thread with you and Michael B. Jordan or I don't know, any of the other actors who have won through this award season.

[Mary]

I mean, it could be a lot of different people. It doesn't have to be Michael B. Jordan.

[Courtney]

It could be Sean Penn. Mary, didn't he win? What if it's Sean Penn and Sierra?

[Mary]

I really. I hope it's not.

[Courtney]

It would be a list and recently won as well.

[Mary]

You are very true.

[Courtney]

Specified the category.

[Mary]

He has gotten so many women too. Like Robin Wright, Charlize Theron, Madonna.

[Courtney]

I was like, do not forget Madonna. Yeah, well, actually he has a girlfriend. She's like, I think, oh, the ripe age of 20.

[Mary]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Courtney]

So anyways, that is amazing for Sierra. I love that for her. Even if they're just friends. Just like I said, I want her to date West's favorite athlete. Imagine just seeing pictures of Sierra with all these a listers just like hobnob and chit chatting, looking fine. Let us ship them all.

[Mary]

Honestly, the athlete angle would be epic. Like someone on the Kansas City Chiefs. And then she gets to be friends with Taylor.

[Courtney]

Wait, not only that, then the Kansas City Chiefs hire her as a sideline reporter because they're like, actually we think Sierra could get the women to be watching more of the games because we're not really allowed to show Taylor anymore because of security. So we're gonna show Sierra.

[Mary]

That would be crazy. We have such good ideas.

[Courtney]

Andy Reid, you know what to do. Patrick Mahomes, you know what to do. You said it Mary done yesterday you said Alana Heim was on watch what happens live with her team Sierra shirt. She's connected to Taylor. Taylor tells Travis, Travis tells Andy, Andy tells the broadcasting rights group and all of a sudden Sierra's at the pre games come August.

[Mary]

Well, can't wait for August.

[Courtney]

What a life she's living. You know what I also think is is going to be interesting too. Okay, so you know how like Cannes lion happens at the end of June and it's a big advertising conference in Cannes, France and like last year they brought NBC had brought Kyle and Amanda, Heather Gay Bowen and Matt Rogers. It's 100 going to be Sierra this year.

[Mary]

Booked and busy.

[Courtney]

Can't wait for her 100%. I just feel like she is going to be getting the spotlight and all of these opportunities and people are going to recognize her skill set.

[Mary]

Maybe because Jon Hamm likes her. She's in season three of friends and neighbors on Apple.

[Courtney]

I mean maybe she's going to be connected to Michael B. Jordan who's close to Ryan Coogler who's writing his next big project and it's Sinners 2 starring Ciara.

[Mary]

Could be. The possibilities are endless.

[Courtney]

Truly, Kyle is like the only one who has outright done an interview. He was stopped in the streets by a random man that he knows. He's the only one that's given us detailed stuff. Right. People have been little like cryptic. Jesse posted another video of I guess I'll start. And I literally wrote, jesse, we will be solid women but can you wait till next week? And he wrote back. He said, take the all the time you need. Somebody else said, we'll stream your music if you can prove that you didn't know. And he responded and he said, don't worry, I have receipts.

[Mary]

He is pushing this tour so hard

[Courtney]

right now and I'm Getting a front row seat.

[Mary]

I love this for you.

[Courtney]

So then also, there was also this story by Amanda that was going around that was, quote, unquote, quickly uploaded and quickly deleted. It's a hoax. I just want to put it out there. It is fake. It is not real. But it was trying to insinuate Lindsay's trying to blackmail me, but actually I caught her and Kyle doing something. It's a hoax. It's also, like, spelled terribly, but it's trying to make it look like the joint statement post.

[Mary]

Oh, so this is why Lindsay posted that cryptic story that.

[Courtney]

Why she posted that story. But so she had posted and said, well, I'm about ready to throw my phone today. And then. And kind of like a keyboard smash of different letters. Now, as millennial women, we understand a keyboard smash. However, if we want to go Sherlock Hubbard on this one. I tried to decipher it. Oh, oh.

[Mary]

Oh, my God. It literally is like G, H, B, X, Y, Z, Z, Z. But tell us, tell us. Let's do the code.

[Courtney]

Let me read the letters.

[Mary]

Okay.

[Courtney]

Okay. G, F, D, N, S, J, W, W, O, E, N, R, A, O, W, M, E, M, R. So usually I would think a keyboard smash, but that W W gave me pause because Weth. Wilson.

[Mary]

Courtney, I cannot wait to hear what you have to say next. I am dying. This is, like, posh, like, piece of shit coke whore every day. I cannot wait for yours. Oh, my God, I'm so excited right now.

[Courtney]

Well, I didn't solve the whole thing. I only think I solved pieces. But somebody else in the comments, I think they solved it. Okay, you guys, you guys, I'm excited to touch grass this weekend.

[Mary]

This is so nutty.

[Courtney]

Because also, Lindsay is a PR maven. Everything she does has a purpose. Okay.

[Mary]

Yes.

[Courtney]

Okay. Like, again, if it's not slamming her keyboard, what does it mean? Okay, so gfd. God damn it. Okay, Right then I couldn't figure out, but W.W. west Wilson.

[Mary]

Sure.

[Courtney]

You go a few more letters down. Couldn't get that. Aow. Amanda or West. So it's A, O, W, M, E, M, R. So it said Amanda or West. Might even miss reunion.

[Mary]

Wow.

[Courtney]

Again, just probably a keyboard slam, but this is the one. And it's Harley Moran on threads. I think this is what it is. God fucking damn it. Never stops. Just when we're over everything. Now rumored Amanda or West might even miss reunion. Harley. I literally was like, this feels right.

[Mary]

It feels very right. And I'm gonna say it's gonna be Amanda.

[Courtney]

It's Amanda. Checking in somewhere.

[Mary]

Right.

[Courtney]

Loopholing. I mean, obviously, maybe she really does need to be going, because I'm sure that her mental health is in the shitter. And please do not send DMS directly to these people. We gotta talk behind their backs like normal people. Yeah, but doesn't that feel like that could be a solve

[Mary]

that? It feels like we got the Wheel of Fortune. We got the final puzzle. Yeah.

[Courtney]

Okay. Speaking of, did you see that Wheel of Fortune TikTok?

[Mary]

I did not. Oh, my God.

[Courtney]

It was just basically clips of Wheel of Fortune Solves where it was just talking about Summer House.

[Mary]

Pretty funny.

[Courtney]

I'll send it to you. But I had a friend who texted me, and it was a photo of West Wilson at the airport going to the Final Four for ncaa.

[Mary]

Really?

[Courtney]

Yes. But, like, I was just thinking, he has to work still.

[Mary]

Like, oh, for God, for complex. You think?

[Courtney]

Yeah, it must be. I can't imagine that he's like, I'll just, like, show up. I don't think anything weird would happen. Like, I wonder if he's contractually obligated to go,

[Mary]

yeah. Wow.

[Courtney]

Isn't that crazy, though?

[Mary]

That is.

[Courtney]

And the photo.

[Mary]

Crazy.

[Courtney]

And the photo from the airport, from, like, the gate was funny because it was saying on the thing, zone five. So then I'm thinking, is he sitting in coach and he's so far back, or is he like, I'm basically showing up to the airport and going to board with the last possible zone so that I can just slip into, like,

[Mary]

my first class seat.

[Courtney]

Thoughts?

[Mary]

Feel like he is one of the people and probably doesn't fly first class.

[Courtney]

You don't think so? Well, he did from BravoCon. Remember, Luann was sitting right in front of him. She turned around with her fedora.

[Mary]

But do you think they flew everyone first class?

[Courtney]

Yes, I think they flew all talent first class.

[Mary]

Yeah. But I don't think Complex is flying

[Courtney]

him first class because we said yesterday we really haven't heard anything from the two of them. And then I was thinking, oh, my God, he has to show up for the final. Final Four. Something that he probably obviously, also really likes.

[Mary]

Sure.

[Courtney]

Sports guy. And then is like, maybe no one here will know. They definitely do.

[Mary]

Yeah. I will say my favorite thing that has transpired through all of this is the. The Carl is a mess is going viral. People are absolutely hysterical about this. They have written all over lover boy. Like, you need to make that merch right now. Carl is a mess. It's absolutely hysterical.

[Courtney]

He reposted a meme of Carl is a mess. You Know it's the new. Has anyone checked on Sheena? Because out of all the things that Kyle could have said in that interview, why is Carl a mess? Send it to Daryl. Carl's a mess.

[Mary]

The way he said it, though, I mean, Carl's a mess. You know, it's just like so much is going on. Carl's a mess,

[Courtney]

which I'm sure he is. But just the way he stated that was just, you know, carl's a mess. I hope Carl's doing okay. I was like, has anyone checked in on Carl today?

[Mary]

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[Courtney]

I. What I liked about this dinner was the fact that it was like, finally, we're, like, laying off of Amanda. That's too easy. It's not fun to watch the layers of this conversation breaking the fourth wall without saying, the alliance of Fox Force 5 is broken. We protected each other, blah, blah, blah. Just to watch the dynamics. And finally Kyle to say, I don't really like you. I don't want to be your friend. And saying that out loud, it's like, this is what we've been waiting for. Because this actually felt like a real conversation, as opposed to the shit that they do where they do protect each other or they don't address things, even doritos, which I thought was funny because you have to try to read the meta aspect of it, too. Are we talking show? Are we talking off show? But when Erica's like, I'm going through a hard time too, and Dorit goes, oh, are you? And Kyle's like, well, you can see it on the Internet. And what dorit was really saying was, oh, are we actually going to address all of that on camera? Because we're not really allowed to talk about Tom. We're not allowed to talk about the lawsuits. We're not allowed to talk about all this debt and everything that's coming at you. So when you say you're going through a hard time, is that you saying, we can finally talk about it on camera?

[Mary]

No. There was so much stuff happening here. And even what I think is crazy is that Kyle was the one that literally said, I don't want to be your friend anymore. And yet she put a wedge between Erica and dorit, and it became more about Erica and dorit, and Kyle got to kind of, like, slither out, which upset me in a lot of ways.

[Courtney]

Well, I think actually dorit did it to herself. I think she still had Erica, but it was when she decided to turn on Erica because Erica was still trying to play the mediator thing. Like, hey, you know, I'm not saying anything about you being late. And then when dorit started going defensive towards Erica because she probably felt that the two of them were coming out. But I actually don't think Erica was. I still think she was pissed from earlier in the day because we have to remember that walk off and they had to find a ride from production happened five hours before this. Right. I think she could have had Erica until she turned on her and called her a cunt. And once she did that Erica was like, I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt, but that was the last straw. You've now taken it too far. And by the way, Duri, I brought to this group. You're late. I also was like, I'm pretty sure Brandi Glanville did. But you did wear the cunty necklace, so we'll give you that. But I was like, that's when she

[Mary]

lost Erica, when she started calling her a pussycat. What are you a pussycat? You're a pussycat.

[Courtney]

Is it. Is it? Cause they're gonna bleep out pussy.

[Mary]

I don't know. And she's like, you're a little pussycat. And you're an asshole, and you're a cunt. There was so much happening here. Honestly, this is kind of like a top 10 fight to me in a lot of ways, because I think there's. There was so many layers here. Exactly. Like you said, you know, Erica's like, you don't think I'm going through shit? My husband is in prison.

[Courtney]

Oh, you wanna talk about the husband?

[Mary]

Like a trial for $25 million. I have to work for the rest of my life because of this man, you know? And I love her saying, like, what are we doing, the trauma olympics? Like, guess what? I'll beat you tenfold, bitch. Because what Erica has gone through is truly insane. And I'm sorry, at the end of the day, like, dorit, you're going through a divorce. That's awful. That's sad. You have young children.

[Courtney]

Don't do the trauma Olympics, Mary.

[Mary]

Your finances are all over the place. But I'm sorry, what Erica has gone through is worse.

[Courtney]

So in this argument, I'm sorry, but everyone's a loser. Dorit beat Kyle. Erica beat Dorit. In the end, like, that's where I see the hierarchy of how this all went. Because Kyle also, and I think, think you made a point last week where you said the producers told Kyle, you better freaking amp it up, Kyle. To me, you guys. And I'm sorry, Kyle in this scene was giving me full she hulk right now, because she has snapped. She took it to a level that I was like, this is literally crazy, Kyle. And Dorit was pretty calm, which then, you know, as we know, makes you just go more and more angry. And everyone's trying to keep this down. Like. Like, her being like, okay, so by the way, Kyle, you keep calling me erratic, and nobody at this table has said I'm erratic. And then Kyle's like, I don't even know what erratic Means it's like, so then why are you saying that? Like, Erica's. Like I was saying, overwhelmed, which I guess could be erratic, but, like, she's overwhelmed. The problem is, too, is that right now Dorit has Rachel and Bose on her side because Rachel is seeing a lot of this with her own divorce. Right? So she's projecting a little bit, understands where Dorit is coming from, and is going to be team Dorit in this. Bose, too, has a season under her belt with Dorit and is like, okay, we're still friends. I'm a good listener. I understand this is what she's going through, but they will come to find out this is actually also who Dorit is. So, like, her being selfish in this divorce, but she's also selfish in her regular life. So, like, you guys think she put, like. Exactly. She hasn't changed.

[Mary]

No. Dorit's always been about herself. She's always been late. She takes care of number one, which is doritos. She loves herself, which, you know, you

[Courtney]

have to be your own biggest fan. If you're not, who will be?

[Mary]

Exactly. I thought it was very interesting that Kathy was the one that went after her.

[Courtney]

Kyle must be livid.

[Mary]

That was very strange because it would make the most sense for Bose to have gone after her after she just said, bose has shown me more support than any everyone put together in this group.

[Courtney]

That was also, for Erica, a breaking point, too, when she's like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Like, Kyle, Kyle and Dorit, that was severed. She still had Erica, and this fight was the last one.

[Mary]

And I think in Kyle's mind, at the end of the day, she's like, you know what? One of my friends committed suicide. I'm have Teddy right now. Like, I can't deal with your bullshit, Dori. I'm over it. She's more team because she's like, I like the world right now is so tough, and I have friends that are sincerely sick. Like, I. I don't have time for your bullshit. You know, she has, like, more of a perspective, I think.

[Courtney]

But Kyle needs to say those things too, because her siding with PK is why Dorit is on the defense. Oh, well, we don't know if that's why he's doing it. It's like, just take what this woman says at face value. You're lucky you're not there with your divorce with mo. And as soon as it gets contentious because you guys try to split assets or you do whatever, if it gets to that point, you're going to see what the other women who have gone through divorces are dealing with. I think everybody at this dinner table was like, okay, Kyle, this is crazy. We know, too, because earlier that day when Kyle told Kathy, are you my sister or not?

[Mary]

Right, right, right.

[Courtney]

That Kathy's not necessarily siding with Kyle. And maybe that's also. You bring up those good points, but does Kyle ever say that out loud to anybody in this group, at least even to her sister?

[Mary]

No. She's scared. She's scared of Cass.

[Courtney]

No, I guess I'm just saying I didn't even think of the teddy aspect or whatever that I'm like, oh, you know, you make good points, but does she ever talk about this with other people where that brings a level of understanding, or do we have to assume based on what we know?

[Mary]

Yeah, I don't know if she's openly talking about that. Also, dorit, in the after show, because the very first after show, she said, like, she thought that PK wanted to get back together with her. And then in this after show, like, Erica kind of starts talking about it too, how basically, like, p. PK Wants her to come crawling back to him, which I find very interesting. I'm like, are you guys putting this all, like, was this kind of a storyline in a show that, like, went too far and, like, are they actually gonna come back together at the end?

[Courtney]

It's so crazy. Also, I love dorit's outfit at this. I mean, when she's walking away from Kathy and she's got that cigarette in hand, I said, she knows her American spirit menthols. She's rocking them. She said, don't worry about the dinner, Kyle. When she has, like, all that steak in front of her is like, can someone put this somewhere else? I think at that point, too, they're like, sutton, come on. Remember you. You said anything that about her late, like, dorit. Yeah, she is always like, yeah, she didn't apologize when she got on the plane. When she says sorry to everyone and forgets Amanda.

[Mary]

Oh, my God, that was hysterical. And she was like, amanda, no, I literally couldn't see you. I. I did not mean to leave you out. I just didn't see you.

[Courtney]

I believe her here because Amanda didn't say a word at this dinner. And Sutton's head was probably really was blocking her. Like, I don't. Was purposely leaving Amanda out. But Kyle's like, how could you leave Amanda out? Okay, Kyle, Kyle, relax. But I thought this was a great dinner scene because they were being so real. Finally.

[Mary]

I really appreciated It. And then I thought, Dorit trying to have, like, a confessional moment at the end. Like, Kyle, she had a mission to get the entire group to turn against me to make herself feel better. Well, she got her wish. Hopefully she can sleep good tonight. I'm like, this, the drama. And then it's like her walking away with that sig.

[Courtney]

She blew it out. Very Italian. We finally have created a line here. I understood at this point why Erica turned on her and just was like, wait, with kyle. But I do think that Kyle chooses somebody every season to go after and isolate from the group. The problem is, is that she didn't think that dorit would have bows. And Rachel, who came straight out of the gate, not ever going to be on team kyle, will be cool with kyle, but is like, oh, no. I'm going where I feel comfortable, which is with dorit, which is with bows. And I think Kyle thought maybe she could get Bose to come back over

[Mary]

to her side, which is kind of crazy to think. And also, this episode, I thought when we were leaving Italy, like, I was like, wait, is this the season finale? What's happening right now? Were you confused?

[Courtney]

This episode was so freaking long, I thought. I mean, I know it was an hour. It felt like 10 to me. I thought when we were leaving Italy, I was like, okay, we're done. We started doing all these confessionals about what we thought was gonna happen from the trip and what really happened. And then I'm like, we still have, like, like, six scenes we were playing out.

[Mary]

It was very, very strange. It felt like. Then we went to dorit's photo shoot.

[Courtney]

Dorit doing a photo shoot. And then being like, I found out through research that putting out the book cover gets people excited for the book. Okay, we've done this before where we're just doing a book cover party. I think we've even done it on this show, just doing a book cover party. And I that this is why. I also think she overplayed her hand too, because, look, do I think Kyle has lost power within this group? Absolutely. But do I think that she's also smart to make sure. Okay, I've got Erica. Because I did feel bad for Erica crying because I think Erica at the end was like, three said those things to me. She then tried to say that we have no history and that Bose is a better friend than I've ever been. And at the same time, this alliance is now done, and it has been a decade of us protecting ourselves. Like her crying, I was like, oh, her therapist taught her what empathy is.

[Mary]

I, I did feel bad for Erica in that moment.

[Courtney]

Yeah. But them not showing up to the book cover next week, that's where I was like, oh, the power. Kyle still has some of the power. And Dorit's gonna learn real quick that she better get people on her side if she's going to be taking on Kyle and her minions.

[Mary]

Also unburdened. Still not out. It comes out June 2, 2026. You can buy it hardcover, 1999, or Kindle for 14.99, but it's not till June. And I also think there's a lot of potential for a very good reunion.

[Courtney]

Okay.

[Mary]

Maybe better than the season.

[Courtney]

Well, it's already been shot. We have no details.

[Mary]

I think Dorit could expose a lot about Kyle.

[Courtney]

Okay, what did you think? Sorry to go back to the dinner, but when Sutton lied and was like, dorit said she could end you, and I was like, well, Dorit didn't say that. She said, we protect each other. I have a lot of information that could be damaging. She's not saying I'm ending you the way that, like, Sutton presented that.

[Mary]

Well, she did say I could blow up her whole life.

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Mary]

Which to me, it's all semantics, I guess.

[Courtney]

So I just felt like it was very, like, when you're saying, like, I could end you, that's feels really dramatic, but.

[Mary]

Okay, I, I, I hate when they do these semantic conversations. You're right. And, and to me, it. Sutton was right. She was saying, she said, you could have ended Kyle. And Dorit's direct quote was, I could

[Courtney]

have blown up her whole life.

[Mary]

Which that, to me, is the same thing.

[Courtney]

But I don't think she was saying it threateningly. I think it was along the lines of, like, we've protected each other under this alliance for so many years. Why is she all of a sudden stepping out from this truce and pact that we've had for all this time? Like, do you know what I know about you? Like, you want to expose me. Like, I know things about you, too.

[Mary]

Right.

[Courtney]

And, but then also, what do you know?

[Mary]

To me, it was just her protecting the Morgan relationship. That's what she's talking about. It's definitely maybe some cheating.

[Courtney]

So Bose is still trying to sell this relationship to us, and I don't want to buy it. Her engagement next week is giving me Lindsay Hubbard. She wore shoulder pads to the beach.

[Mary]

I forgot that they weren't engaged, and I was like, wait, wait, what? We, we don't live together. We don't have a house together. But we're having a baby and we're not engaged. Not that there has to be an order, but it's very clear that. That she wants to be married. I. I forgot that they weren't engaged. I assumed they were.

[Courtney]

Well, to be fair, they did get engaged a while ago. But I'm not invested in Keely, so I'm not invested in the relationship of her. Like, when she was like, okay, Lyall's gonna take a photo of us, a selfie of us, and then they kiss, and she's like, oh, my God, Le. Was that so weird for you?

[Mary]

The daughter couldn't be sweeter. She's like, I'm just getting used to it. Like, she's such a sweet girl, but it's like, mom, stop. That's disgusting.

[Courtney]

Like, you're just like, okay. It's like, also, like, you can't just wait one second for the selfie to be done.

[Mary]

So strange. Then we have Rachel throwing herself a birthday party. Studio 54. Kais is security. That was absolutely amazing. He's so cute. I will be very curious how her second season is. I think it's going to be a lot different because I think she's going to have to get in fights with some of the women.

[Courtney]

She says all of her. I'm going to say controversial, but not but like, her controversial thoughts in her confessionals. But is anybody going to go up against her besides maybe Kyle, who's going up against Rachel?

[Mary]

I can't imagine it.

[Courtney]

Sutton could accidentally. Oh, sure, sure.

[Mary]

Amanda Francis said in the confessionals one week or on the after show, like, she's the biggest name on the show. Which I was like, oh, my God, Kyle must be freaking out. Also, you guys, Amanda's dress for Studio 54 party. I'm like, you are such a millennial.

[Courtney]

Like a rap dress.

[Mary]

I feel like I had this dress, like, this bright pink color. I'd, like, wear it to teaching.

[Courtney]

Did you wear your sparkle knee high boots as well? Like, how is there cement at the bottom of these? Why is she walking like that?

[Mary]

I liked the boots. I feel like that matched the theme. But the. The dress was so bad.

[Courtney]

It's terrible. Her style is terrible. When she was like, to her husband, like, okay, so we're gonna change all the windows and do everything. How much is that gonna cost? He 50. She's like, do I get a sleeping with the contractor discount? And then I started thinking, oh, my God, is this how she's, like, laundering monies? She funnels it into his construction contracting company and she pays him that way. And that's how they keep all of this money, like, coming through, I started going Sopranos. I've never even seen Sopranos. I'm sorry. I don't know why I said that. Ozarks. I've only, like, two episodes of that. All right. I don't know about money laundering, but I thought.

[Mary]

Thought.

[Courtney]

Did she just tell on herself?

[Mary]

Me, I guess we'll never know. Do you think Dorit came on time to this party?

[Courtney]

I. I don't think so, because I feel like she was giving the excuse of why she was late in the car with bows, which is, the kids are back in school. Poor Phoenix had a full panic attack at school because she hadn't been to a real school in five years, and she felt like she didn't fit in. I felt so sad for her, but I thought that was the reason of why she was being late to this party. Did you?

[Mary]

I just kept on thinking, out of all the times you should be on time is probably for this party, like, the next event.

[Courtney]

You need to be on time, Kyle. Being like, there's that damn purse again. Like, is she not supposed to wear it, Kyle? It could have been from rut, the

[Mary]

Runway or the real. Real.

[Courtney]

We don't know what the time expiration is on this purse.

[Mary]

Also, that Dorit didn't get this book out right now. I mean, come on.

[Courtney]

I was just thinking that timing. You said June 2, and I'm like, shouldn't you be using the show as a vehicle at that point? Let's just say we have two episodes left. A three part reunion. We have five weeks. Maybe it does align to June 2nd. It's probably, like, two weeks too late.

[Mary]

Yeah, I. It was a missed opportunity. She's always late.

[Courtney]

Like, the last episode of the reunion should be where Andy's like, and Dorit, your book unburdened. And we ended with a book party. And then she'd say, yeah, it's out now because of when it airs, but she has to say, yeah, it's out within the next month. I did miss a few deadlines. Right? Are you gonna read it? No, it's gonna be too long because

[Mary]

she talks too much. You're so right.

[Courtney]

Well, Erica was funny too, because she was talking about unburdened. Oh, this is what it was when they were talking about the relationship with PK and potentially going back. Right. And she said, the book is called unburdened. What do we think that's about him.

[Mary]

Right. Their whole thing, too, is that she should have waited to do the book till she's on the other side of the divorce.

[Courtney]

Exactly. She needs money, Mary.

[Mary]

I know. I. I get it. I get it.

[Courtney]

She bought the purse. How was she supposed to buy the purse if she didn't have a book advance?

[Mary]

Okay, in Dorit's defense, those bags. Those bags, if you take care of them properly, you can resell them and they can an be an investment. So perhaps this, Kelly, is an investment.

[Courtney]

Mary, you are so correct. Anything else about this episode or let's take a break and come back with southern hospitality.

[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

My favorite show. Joe Bradley this week. He reminds me of Tom Sandoval in a lot of ways. Him being like, I want to create an atmosphere for my guests. He's going to do this emo night for his 30th birthday. And then I was like, does he have a costume closet? Him wearing the birkenstocks, but he loves the limelight. And.

[Courtney]

And I.

[Mary]

He just gave me Sandoval vibes.

[Courtney]

I do understand that, like, early, before we knew.

[Mary]

Yes.

[Courtney]

The funny part about this emo night, though, is to make the connection is like, Katie and Dana host emo night in la. Sheena has hosted emo night. Like, it's the same thing. So him being like, yeah, I'm gonna throw this party. I'm like, I think it's just like a tour stop for them. They do emo night all over the country. Like, it's not like he's throwing an emo party. I'm sure he's probably working with them to get people in and because he's a promoter and, you know, he can sign people up for tables online. But I just feel like it's very much like this is something that happens anyways. But he's going to make it his 30th birthday and he's probably going to host the emo night like Katie and Dana have done. Like Sheena has done in the past.

[Mary]

Yes. You're. You're totally right. I'm excited for it. I like the eyeliner.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Also when he had to talk about the fact that he and Luann the morning after, and he got to taste her eggs a la Francet. And that is not an innuendo for something else. It's the legitimate eggs a la francais, or, as he said, like, eggs franchise.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

He has no idea how special he should feel for being a part of the eggs a la francais lore.

[Mary]

And then he's walking around the apartment looking at the art, and she's like, yeah, my daughter made that. Well, how old's your daughter? 28. Like you.

[Courtney]

What a queen.

[Mary]

He also said the last time he saw lou was at BravoCon, and his mom and Lou got a drink because

[Courtney]

they're the same age. His mom's all younger. I picture Lou permanently in a fedora. I just picture that she woke up, and she's like, hey, you hungry? And then he's like, okay. She just gets up and puts her morning fedora on one.

[Mary]

She'll be buried in one.

[Courtney]

Yeah, Chic. Say la la grave. Le grave.

[Mary]

It's Friday, people.

[Courtney]

So we've got two subplots this week. Okay. One first plot, Brad and Emmy. Because Emmy can't remember that after she apologized to Brad, she said. Said it was fake. I didn't mean it. What do you mean? He's mad at me. Then from that. The second plot is that Lake and Michaels are fighting because of the conversation about microaggressions, and then Lake going and telling Ella about it, who then told Emmy about it.

[Mary]

Okay. Michael's is. Is I appreciate someone so much that he's not letting up on Lake. Like, he is gonna make her feel uncomfortable. He's not gonna pretend like, you know, I'm gonna hug.

[Courtney]

Now he's, like, ruining a trip and making everybody involved by making the vibes bad. Like, you can be mad at her, but also tell her why you're mad. She's literally trying to figure out why you're mad at her. Tell her why you're mad. You ignoring her and then talking about her while she's standing right there watching it.

[Mary]

Oh, I, like, appreciated him not being

[Courtney]

fake, but she doesn't even know why you're mad. Have a conversation with her and then don't talk to her on the trip. Let her know, hey, I am mad at you. You did this. Everybody in the group knows but her. Now, I do wonder how often she has done this, because when her mom read her at the end of the episode, I was like, this is not the first time Lake has done something like this where she Spreads and has made a bigger deal from it.

[Mary]

Her mom's like, why would you have told her that? Keep your mouth shut.

[Courtney]

Like, you can't be doing this again. Like, the way she just talked to her, I was like, okay, so Lake has done this before. And when she called her mom, basically looking for sympathy, her mom's like, oh, yeah, you're not gonna find that here.

[Mary]

Pull your together.

[Courtney]

Then you see her crying. It's like, yeah. Lake obviously shouldn't have talked about that, right? Especially, like, telling this random girl she shouldn't have done that. But the way that he was reacting to it, they were both being completely immature about it, especially when they have such a friendship. Oh, I just can't trust her. Okay, well, you got to tell her that you guys are best friends. You lived a floor apart from each other in my fake apartment complex that you all live in.

[Mary]

But I still. I'm Team Michaels on this. Because she knows what she did. She knows what she did. It's okay for him to make her feel uncomfy when she's like, will you take a couple pictures of me? No. Like, I'd be like, okay, I guess I could, but I'll only do five.

[Courtney]

You would do it, but then you take bad photos, and then you'd be like, sorry, I have to pee. And then you'd, like, run away so that somebody else would have to do it. But you. You would, like, do it and just make. I'm a really bad photo taker, though, okay? The Brad and Emmy part of it. Emmy is an insane person. Her eyes are frightening to me. The wide eyes, like she is Aaron from the Valley. The car is driving to the trip. I was like, that has to be the worst car to be in. Second car. Worst car is Joe. Bradley's. The best car was Bradley, tj, Justin, and Julia. They're talking about kiss, tasting their cum. They're having a grand old time in that car. Emmy's like, I did nothing. I did. I've freaking done nothing. I did nothing.

[Mary]

What is going to end up happening with her and Brad?

[Courtney]

It's got to come to a head at some point, right?

[Mary]

I would imagine on this trip.

[Courtney]

So when she pulled Brad to the side when they were working, I thought when he said, one, I think he's probably exhausted from having to have this conversation again, because now you're just bullshitting me. But two, I was like, before, he would have done it privately, but because they did it in front of a group, everything was okay. We let it go. And then you did that. Now I need the group to also be there to see the dynamic here because this is like, I feel like he wanted the group to be present. He was not going to do a side thing so that it could be a he said, she said.

[Mary]

That's a good point. That's smart on him.

[Courtney]

I. I agree.

[Mary]

And at the end of the day, it's like his. The apology wasn't genuine and he doesn't want to be friends with someone that isn't genuine.

[Courtney]

Right. And she keeps pretending as if she doesn't know she said the word unsafe. It's like, roll footage, babe. You know what you said. You know what was happening because you already apologized for it, but it was a fake apology because you said they just want to hear sorry.

[Mary]

She claims she is being silenced.

[Courtney]

I was like, all right, Oprah. I know. Get up. Like emmyu, you're a crazy person. She's kind of also the. The a crazy reality star because it's like she is so nuts. But also she's put herself on her own pedestal and she's like, I know everything. I am perfect. Look at me. And it's like, you're so wrong. You're so the opposite of everything you think.

[Mary]

Not self aware at all. And your husband, or soon to be husband, doesn't support the show. It's like, maybe it's time to go, babe.

[Courtney]

Maybe I do want to talk about. About Maddie not being able to rent Airbnbs anymore because her friends have trashed them. And I thought that is such trash behavior. Could you imagine having a rental property and it getting so destroyed? And not only that, mo it's happened to multiple people that this has happened and then just make. Trying to make a joke of it like, that's terrible.

[Mary]

Oh, I thought the stories were interesting. Didn't she say that they literally broke a counter her.

[Courtney]

Could you imagine being the owner of that house? I would be sitting in a small claims court. You're gonna ruin my actual house. That's disgusting.

[Mary]

She didn't get that deposit back for sure. What did you think about the Michaels, tj? What do you think is rumbling there?

[Courtney]

The editing of them talking about their ideal partner, which is basically each other. And the scenes shot with Michael dusting the fan. TJ Power posing in front of the mirror, shirtless. Give him an Emmy. Not the Emmy on the show, the award.

[Mary]

This show is so silly to me. There's so much happening and nothing at the same time.

[Courtney]

It is so OG Vanderpump.

[Mary]

Yeah. I mean, Molly's talking about Hooking up with a 64 year old.

[Courtney]

They're literally talking about brain eating amoeba. What'd you think about. What do you think about Mia and Justin?

[Mary]

Oh, it's like, Mia's not gonna go for him. I feel like, also, she is just over the Troy thing, like, and she's not over it. That just finished up. I thought it was really sad. The YSL purse, the trophy.

[Courtney]

She's like, I starved myself for three months for that trophy. Who. Who stole that? I was like, the. The joint apartment complex they all live in has got to get better security.

[Mary]

Yeah, that was. That was sad. He didn't insure it.

[Courtney]

Why wouldn't he insure the box? And I laughed, thinking, like, have you ever insured something that you've said?

[Mary]

No, me neither. No, me neither.

[Courtney]

But Justin, I keep thinking, like, how is he with Charlie every week? Did Mia eat an edible? Because that man is not. Not that funny the way she was laughing so hysterically. But I was like, I'm sure he's, like, funny and fun to be around, but, like, who's taking him seriously? Just doing backflips, being tall.

[Mary]

I don't think anything is really gonna happen with them. I don't even know about a kiss.

[Courtney]

They make out.

[Mary]

Literally.

[Courtney]

The preview for next week. Oh,

[Mary]

I guess I'm wrong. Spoiler alert. Breaking news. I miss that. These kids, they're young, they're fun, they're willing to show us everything. And that's why it's a great show. So watch Southern hospitality, people.

[Courtney]

Just jump on in and have a great weekend.

[Mary]

Okay, Bye. Have a great weekend. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go

[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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[Mary]

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[Courtney]

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