TJG: Summer House Monday Updates & Ladies of London S1 E5!

Summary

Two Judgey Girls Podcast

Episode: Summer House Monday Updates & Ladies of London S1 E5!

Hosts: Courtney (LA) & Mary (Bay Area)
Date: April 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Courtney and Mary reunite (virtually, as always) to break down the latest Summer House drama and give their hilariously candid commentary on Ladies of London, Season 1 Episode 5 ("Not So Fair Ladies"). The mood is classic Two Judgey Girls: witty, conspiratorial, and sharply attuned to both the details and the meta-narratives of Bravo reality TV.

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Table of Contents

• Summer House Updates
  • Key Developments
  • Social Media Sleuthing
  • Fan Theories & Reunions
  • Brand Fallout & Cast Reactions
• Ladies of London S1 E5 Recap
  • Social Rivalries and Party Fashion
  • Relationship Dynamics & Fights
  • Moments of Humor & Relatability
  • Best Quotes
• Notable Quotes and Timestamps
• Final Thoughts

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Summer House Updates [03:55 – 21:15]

Key Developments & Host Weekend Catch-up

• Courtney and Mary catch up on Easter festivities and early Monday routines.
  • Mary: "My Easter party was about seven hours. And do you, do you have one of those families that just stay too long at the party?" [04:17]
  • Courtney: Shares relatable frustration about car maintenance and dealership upcharges [05:52].
• The hosts bond over hectic schedules before diving into Summer House news.

Social Media Sleuthing & Fashion Forensics [06:20]

• Amanda spotted with Kyle for a “dog exchange” in NYC:
  • Paparazzi pictures analyzed, leading fans to speculate Amanda’s outfit belongs to West (her rumored romantic interest)—but differences in colors and logos debunk this.
  • Courtney: “If you're gonna be a detective, you need to be a good one... They're similar. They're similar. Right, but they're not the same.” [07:21]
  • Mary: Questions whether Amanda is playing into rumors intentionally with fashion choices, suggesting a calculated approach for the cameras or fans [08:00].

Dating Rumor Mania & The Power of Paparazzi [08:20]

• Amanda/West dating rumors:
  • Both hosts urge critical thinking ("You think she has a full catalog of his closet?" [08:21]) and caution against baseless speculation.
  • Discussion of Kyle and Amanda interactions—exchanges of flowers (from Amanda’s brother), a hug, dog exchange, nothing overtly romantic.
• Ciara seen with her manager Derek in NYC, sparking more excitement [09:23].

Giggly Squad & Fandom Reactions [09:42]

• The Giggly Squad podcast is revealed to be firmly Team Ciara.
  • Mary: “They made that very apparent. I like what they said: 'We're not going to capitalize off our friends.' … Sierra went to Hannah's bachelorette party.” [10:18]
  • Courtney: Recalls Hannah saying upon meeting Ciara, “At that point, both Sierra and Hannah turned their back on Luke and became friends because they were basically set up to hate each other…” [10:58]

Brand Collaborations, Drama Fallout, and Social Response [11:18]

• Uber Eats ad featuring Summer House cast drops: The ad generates speculation about cast relationships, with wardrobe callbacks.
  • Courtney: “Her boy is there. The green clogs made the cut. It felt like nature was healing... I know that Carl and Lindsay are going to find their way back to each other as friends.” [11:35]
• Ciara’s positive social impact:
  • Praises for promoting Girl Scout Troop 6000 (serving girls in shelters) and other charitable causes.
  • Courtney: “Good for Sierra. And this is just—should also show you like the type of person that she is. She knows everybody is looking.” [12:47]
• West’s sudden drop from a Marriott Bonvoy ad after scandal—scrutiny of Bravo’s management of fallout.

Host Perspective: Fandom Intensity & Reunion Timing [14:15 – 18:17]

• Discuss comparisons to past Bravo scandals, calls for letting the drama die down, and intense fan speculation (e.g., rumors of Amanda/Craig relationship based on a single photo [16:09]).
  • Courtney: “I do think it's a disservice to wait so long for the reunion. I really do. Because…I think it's also just like, the feelings are fresh. Everything is happening right now.” [16:34]
• Hosts suggest a mid-season break and continuation of filming to capture the fallout.

Fandom Fatigue & Meta Commentary [19:04 – 21:15]

• Mary: “It's like last week. Was it exciting? Yes. I can't deny that.”—acknowledged fatigue with over-analysis.
• Courtney: “I just want to enjoy my stupid little show that we've been there since season one, episode one… Let's get twisted, Stephen McGee.” [20:15]
• Appeal for a break from detective work and encouragement for listeners to “touch grass” (enjoy real life), with tongue-in-cheek references to “Sherlock Hubbard” and “Detective Dodie.” [20:59]

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Ladies of London S1 E5 Recap [28:23 – 52:45]

Opening Banter & Thematic Setup [28:23 – 29:24]

• Episode title “Not So Fair Ladies” prompts a brief riff on musical references (My Fair Lady, makeovers in film).
• Transition to Ladies of London recap.

Party Prep, Fashion, and Social Hierarchy [29:34 – 34:00]

• Martha’s big park party:
  • Worries about Kimmy and Margo’s ongoing feud, potential for drama.
  • Extended, comical take on Missy’s outfit and its effect on Margo’s sons:
    • “This was like Pam Anderson walked in or something. It was like, boobs out…Jackson and Charlie, at first, they were really excited to get their ice cream…And then they see Missy…” [30:06]
  • Missy: Identified as “a choice” for her proud display, with both hosts riffing on the storyline of her “boobs out” main character energy [30:25].
• Margo’s family dynamic: Speculation on her marriage, absentee husband, and stepchildren, referencing her tendency to be “always late,” and the reality of high-maintenance Bravo mums [33:16].

Backstage Gossip and Allegiances [31:18 – 34:43]

• Rumors about Mark and his social standing, financial situation, and attempts to reconcile with his father.
  • Mary: “I want to know more about his family disowning him though. Is this true?” [32:09]
• Lengthy, relatable digression about school email etiquette and parent/teacher relationships, cleverly layered into the assessment of Margo’s personality [33:16 – 34:58].

Husbands, Parenting, and Wealth [35:07 – 37:12]

• More speculation about whether viewers will ever see Margo’s husband.
  • Courtney: “But we've got to see him in season two or. I think that's going to be her storyline. Who is Margot's husband?” [36:29]
• Amusing sidebar about "door dashing" lunch to elite schools.

Ultrasound Fashion Parade/Party Build-Up [39:12 – 42:04]

• Analysis of Joshua & Lottie’s ultrasound appointment attire—comment on their sartorial effort for even the most routine errands.
  • Mary: “These outfits to this ultrasound appointment are insane. She's basically wearing a crop top almost…” [39:53]
  • Courtney: “We don't dress up for anything.” [40:19]
• Thoughts on Joshua’s looming fatherhood and his ability to delegate or “let go” at work [39:37].

The My Fair Lady Party: Costume Drama and Conflict [42:05 – 45:41]

• Party described as “a lovely little setup” [42:05], with acute observations that “they never actually sat down at the table”—the drama kept the cast circulating.
• Margo’s Coachella-inspired look: Deemed “gorgeous but not My Fair Lady,” likened to “Cruella de Vil” [42:37].
• Mark’s refined insult tactics compared to Mean Girls (“Where’d you get that? It’s so fetch.”) [44:18].
• Margo as calculated villain: Hosts debate whether she’s deliberately playing “villain” or simply calculated in her social maneuvering [44:49].

Accountability, Alliances, and Britishness [44:57 – 47:16]

• British people and accountability:
  • Courtney: “Kimmy's like, yeah, you did. I said, acting. This is a joyous tea party.”
  • Margo’s confessional: “[The British] aren't good with accountability. They kind of just say everything. And I'm like, Kimmy is American.” [44:57]
  • Riff on British/American identity and LA stereotypes, with playful jabs at each other.

Defensive Maneuvers & Emotional Manipulation [47:17 – 50:38]

• Debate over whether Margo is drawing lines and “isolating” cast members to form teams.
  • Courtney: “Maybe isolating is not the right word, but, yeah, trying to make sure that there's a line drawn in the sand.” [47:02]
• Martha's refusal to "align" with Kimmy for accountability reasons, notably after an incident about Missy's brother.
  • Mary: “The reason I'm not aligning with you right now, because you were such a…What you said about Missy's brother was inappropriate. And that's why I'm not taking your side.” [47:14]
• Kimmy’s emotional display for Martha’s allegiance is viewed as manipulative by Courtney [48:50]:
  • “…If we want to talk about an empath. I thought she was trying to use that to get Martha to her side. The way that she was saying, like, we're sisters.”

Show, Puppets, and Character Rankings [51:16 – 52:38]

• Final rankings of favorite characters, with playful rationalizations (Kimmy, then Martha, then Mark, Emma, Lottie, Margo, Micah...)
  • Minnie Manners comes in for special praise for thoughtfulness and likability.
• Long sidebar about whether Minnie Manners is a puppet or a cartoon on her website.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Paparazzi/Fandom Sleuthing:
  • Courtney: “If you're gonna be a detective, you need to be a good one...They're similar. They're similar. Right, but they're not the same.” [07:21]
• On Bravo Fan Theorizing:
  • Mary: “People are just going back in time now, and it's like, let's, like, live in the present. I mean, yes. Do I want to know the timeline? Absolutely.” [16:09]
  • Courtney: “There's no way they could do this during the season. You know? There's no way...I just want to enjoy my stupid little show…” [20:12, 20:15]
• On Ladies of London Costume Commentary:
  • Mary: “This was like Pam Anderson walked in…Boobs out. These boys…we could see. Stay longer.” [30:06]
  • Courtney on Margo: “I could see Margo, like, sending an Uber for her kids. She probably door dashes food to the school for their lunches. People do that.” [35:38]
  • Mary: “She seems like the type of person that if she emailed you and said, my son has a dentist appointment at 9:30, can you send him to the office...and then you don't do it because guess what, you have 32 other kids. And…she sends you a nasty email about it.” [33:31]
• On British vs. American Identity Jokes:
  • Courtney: “[Margo’s confessional:] ‘The British aren't good with accountability.’ And I'm like, Kimmy is American.” [44:57]
• On Friendships in Reality TV:
  • Courtney: “Not one person in this group is a backstabber. We've said everything to each other's faces here, like, there's no backstabbing happening.” [49:20]

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a classic Two Judgey Girls mix of detailed sleuthing (sometimes to comic excess), sharp cultural and social commentary, and warm, gossipy humor. As always, Courtney and Mary move seamlessly from updates on fan theories and social media drama to a scene-by-scene breakdown of Ladies of London, blending jokes about parenting, LA stereotypes, and reality TV tropes. The energy is high, the references plentiful, and the analysis cuts through both the cast’s facades and the fandom’s feverish speculation.

If you missed the episode, this summary covers:

• Key Summer House developments and the rollercoaster of social media speculation
• How Bravo drama is affecting cast brand deals and alliances
• A full rundown of Ladies of London S1E5’s social betrayals, best lines, and fashion moments
• Courtney and Mary’s unfiltered, witty, and sometimes self-referential commentary

Best enjoyed with a sense of humor and an appreciation for Bravo’s endless supply of drama.

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[Podcast Host]

Welcome back to two Judgy Girls.

[Mary]

This is Mary from the Bay and

[Courtney]

it's Courtney from la. It's Monday. Sometimes I think, oh great, the weekend. Nothing's gonna happen. We'll get to enjoy a day off or so. Thankfully a lot happened on Friday. Everything else was kind of quiet, but obviously we have to do our summer house updates. But first, did you have a good weekend?

[Mary]

I did. I had a lovely Easter and my Easter party was about seven hours. And do you, do you have one of those families that just stay too long at the party?

[Courtney]

Not like yours. I just know your family and it's like the goodbye start three hours before but then you get into a convo about something else and then it just keeps going. They're like, oh my God, that reminds me.

[Mary]

Exactly. Totally, totally. Actually, well we're supposed to be there at 1:30 so I got there at 2 and then. But I mean by the time I was like packing the car at 12,

[Courtney]

whatever you need to do for your disease,

[Mary]

I was, I was packing the car at 12, I had a lot of shit to bring to my sister. And then about 7, when Charlie was screaming because he hadn't napped or met his bedtime, we decided it was time to go.

[Courtney]

Charlie said, time to go, Mom. Yes, so. Meaning you would have stayed longer?

[Mary]

Oh, totally. I was like, ugh, we gotta go. It's still daylight.

[Courtney]

And then how early did you get up this morning because you had work to do?

[Mary]

I woke up at. Well, I Woke up at 1:30 because of Charlie, because he daps didn't really nap yesterday. So I think he was really thrown off. Then we slept in the bed together for about two hours. And then Michael transferred him at 4, and then at 5, I started watching the shows.

[Courtney]

So what time do you think you'll crash today?

[Mary]

Oh, I'm hoping I make it to, like, 8pm okay.

[Courtney]

Okay, that's good. That's good. Yeah, I had to get up early today. By early, I mean not early, but I had to take my car in, which is one of my least favorite things to do is, like, taking your car in because it's just for a simple oil change. But, you know, you know, they're going to call me and be like, oh, by the way, we also noticed X, Y and Z the air filters, right? And I said, we're good. And then he was already trying to sell me on new tires. And I was like, do they go forward still? Because I know they'll get me because I'm like one of those people too that is like, yeah, just do whatever. Like, I don't. I don't want to know. Just put on my tab. So that was my day today. But I was also like, okay, well, what's going on in the summer house update venture? Because life goes on, but things keep happening. I have one piece of advice to the fandom. If you're gonna be a detective, you need to be a good one. Okay. I can't be dealing with people saying, look at this and look at this. And then I have to question, do your eyes work? You need to look at it. And they're two different things. So let's start off because on Friday, after we had recorded too, Kyle and Amanda had met up on the streets of New York for a dog exchange. And we could get into that. But Amanda is wearing this blue Elwood hat. And then she's wearing a oversized leather jacket. I'm doing this from memory. This is creepy, but. And then a tan and blue striped sweater and gray sweatpants looking very west, coated, if you will. And People are like, it's west stuff. Look at this photo of west in a brown Elwood hat. And the collar is a different color than Amanda's on the shirt. But they're similar. They're similar. Right, but they're not the same. If we're going to do detective work, we have to make sure it's good, because it's gonna be like Sierra paying a PI Which I know she didn't just say, but if that PI Came back with that evidence, fired.

[Mary]

Okay, so you're here to say that was not Wes clothing when she met up with Kyle.

[Courtney]

Could it be west clothing? It could be, but not from the examples given.

[Mary]

Totally. I. I understand. Do you think in any way it was strategic that she chose those outfit pieces because she was hoping that this would make it look more like they are dating because she knew he has these items.

[Courtney]

You think she has a full catalog of his closet?

[Mary]

No, I'm just asking a question.

[Courtney]

No, I think this has kind of been what her style has. Whether it's influenced by him or not.

[Mary]

Sure.

[Courtney]

But I don't think this. These are his clothing. Or it could be, but it's just not what we've seen. I think this was like, if you're a paparazzi that wants to get in on the action, staking out outside of her apartment is probably a good move because you'll see her at some point. Because she has dogs.

[Mary]

Exactly.

[Courtney]

And could they have gone upstairs to do the whole exchange? Probably. But I also think that Kyle is strategic, and I think he still cares about Amanda and he's, like, worried about her. I think it's also, like, we've said we didn't even see them. It's weird that we haven't seen anything from them.

[Mary]

And then we see them, and he did hug her.

[Courtney]

He had flowers. They were from her brother. They switched the dogs. Nothing notable, but I just thought, oh, that's so funny that we literally had said nobody has seen anybody.

[Mary]

Right. And that was on Friday. Then Saturday, we spot Ciara with a friend walking. And the friend's sweatshirt was very noticeable. It had, like, a message on it.

[Courtney]

It says something like, who we love is who we are, or something like that. I believe it's her manager, Derek, that she was with.

[Mary]

Okay.

[Courtney]

Also, the rumor is too, that on Thursday, Amanda was spotted at West's apartment. Unfounded. Not sure if that's actually true or not. And I was like, if it's from that freaking peeping Tom, creepy giggly squad released theirs their Friday podcast episode. And I Actually really liked what they had to say because I. People obviously wanted them to comment on it, and we're hoping that they would say something about it. People wanted to know, are they team Sierra? Are they friends with both of them? Like, where do they lie? Nobody knows. They're clearly 100% Team Sierra.

[Mary]

Yeah. They made that very apparent. I like what they said. We're not going to capitalize off our friends. We are friends behind the scenes. Like, it wasn't about a reality TV show. Sierra went to Hannah's bachelorette party.

[Podcast Host]

They're.

[Mary]

They're buds, and they're clearly team Sierra.

[Courtney]

Like, we're consoling her. We know what's going on. And then Hannah at the end, I liked what she said too. Let this be a lesson to who we are, who we like, give our love to. And she was talking about. I knew when I MET SIERRA Season 5, you know, that was a Covid season. We had a connection right away. And at that point, both Sierra and Hannah turned their back on Luke and

[Mary]

became friends because they were basically set up to hate each other because Hannah was into Luke and Sierra had previously dated him. Yes.

[Courtney]

And I think that's all they had. I don't know what else they could have said that would have satisfied people.

[Mary]

No, it's. To be honest, I just want to get to the reunion at this point.

[Courtney]

Okay.

[Mary]

The uber eats ad was hysterical. Courtney and I were going play by play. I'm like, oh, she's saying the Kleenex is soft because Carl wanted her to be softer. Oh, I saw Wesley stripes. Why did they have ruffles in the commercial?

[Courtney]

Her boy is there. The green clogs made the cut. It felt like nature was healing. I said I was like, the silver lining. This whole thing is I know that Carl and Lindsay are going to find their way back to each other as friends. As friends. Lindsay literally commented I had to unblock him for this collab. I just think nature's healing. I hope that all of them are talking to each other too. Like, Sierra knows this Uber eats ad is coming out. I think of when it was like the scandal. Remember that one that they did for Ubers and lala was like Scandinavian savings. They were recording a good as gold remix. They released this on a Saturday. And typically, I think more people are off of social media on Saturday because it's the weekend and they're, you know, not necessarily chained to a desk if they're working in an office, whatever. I mean, that killed.

[Mary]

It was the talk of the town over the weekend. And then Sierra actually did a couple posts and her main thing was promoting a Girl Scout troop that all the girl Scouts live in a shelter. And she obviously like using her platform for good, which what a message that is sending troop 6000. So sweet.

[Courtney]

I think that's so cool of Sierra too, to be able to be like, obviously I have all of this attention on me and I. I'd be curious what's going on behind the scenes, like with her management. They're like, do you want to capitalize this? Do you want to like money? What do you want to do? And she's probably still processing and whatnot. But for her to take her platform and say, okay, if all these eyes are on me right now, I'm going to use it for good. Here's. Here's things that I'm passionate about. She also did a Protect the Dolls story that she reshared a post. Good for Sierra. And this is just should also show you like the type of person that she is. She knows everybody is looking. I'm sure people are checking all of their socials over and over and over again. And we had mentioned on Friday that West had been spotted going to Phoenix for the final four. And then there was this post of him laying out by the pool at the hotel. I think I sent that to you yesterday.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

I'm so mad that he's breathing. What does he think he's doing? And. And in my head I'm like, why do I have to defend this? This is crazy. But I'm like, what are they supposed to do? He's just supposed to sit in his room. He's there for work. Now I will say Marriott Bomboy had an ad and originally he was in the ad and then they cut him out.

[Mary]

Wow.

[Courtney]

They had a full billboard like they're on the side of the hotel for their podcast. Oh, sure. They probably be get getting complaints and stuff, which to me is like, just don't listen to it.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

Did you see Rochelle's post to Chrishell was like, I don't want to see anybody giving any deals to west and Amanda. Sure brands don't need to go ahead and reach out to them if they don't want to. It could be bad for business. But to have the vitriol when there's people like Jax, tape Taylor that existed that I don't see the crazy going for him the way that we're going for this. Which again, I'm still on team Sierra and team Kyle and team everybody else.

[Mary]

I think at this point, let's let it die down a little bit. But Lindsay Hubbard can't. She is activated. She is fighting with Dumois, and she's posting. Last night she got Taco Bell because she's so upset that someone sent into Dumois that she was talking all about

[Podcast Host]

it, and then she, like, clears it up this morning.

[Mary]

It's like, this was a nothing burger for me. The only thing interesting she said was that she wished that the reunion was on April 15, and it's not, which makes it feel like it's going to be even later. And I think at this point, they all just want to get the reunion over with and move on to the next thing. I'm so curious what's going to happen with the city, because it has to be completely re. Edited, I assume.

[Courtney]

Yeah. So originally they were saying the date was going to be, like, the 23rd or 24th, which to me feels more accurate because Jesse's going on Tour on the 25th, so he's not going to be available for it, which means, I assume he booked his tour dates, too, based on when the reunion was going to film. I think what Lindsay is saying, too, is, like, if this gag order really is happening. Right. And we're not allowed to talk about it as a cast, we can drop hints or leave subtle clues, but can you imagine what all their DMS look like? What's the tea? What's going on? Tell us details. And it's like, if they could just get it over with this week while it's still, like, fresh, too. Because like you said, we're gonna maybe let this die down a little bit because we're not getting anything besides looking for clues and trying to figure out if people are going back seasons.

[Mary]

The people saying that Amanda and Craig hooked up, and they're showing this one photo of Craig and Amanda at the dinner table in the Hamptons, like, holding hands. I mean, people are just going back in time now, and it's like, let's, like, live in the present. I. I mean, yes. Do I want to know the timeline? Absolutely. I think they will have to clear that up at the reunion, but at this point, I think we can pump the brakes a little bit.

[Courtney]

Lindsay said, too west hasn't messaged her, so he's obviously avoiding the cast. I. I do think it's a disservice to wait so long for the reunion. I really do. Because I think it's also just like, the feelings are fresh. Everything is happening right now. If. If they got it all out and then we're Able to either. I don't think move past it is the right word, but just confront it, deal with it, do it. Then it's like, okay, it's done. I also think too is there are conversations, you know, there was. I forgot who said it. I want to say they were featured on Jeff Lewis, but that they said that they were at Soho House and they saw Sierra potentially meeting with Bravo executives. And so I'm wondering if there's something there. I think Cara Berry said this, like there was rumblings about what they're going to do within the city, if it's going to be canceled or whatnot. To me, I'm like, pick up the cameras again and give us an extra back half of a season. We could play the whole thing out of what's happened and what's been filmed already. And then we need to have a mid season break and say, obviously everybody knows what happened and then how it all plays out after the fact.

[Mary]

That would be very interesting.

[Courtney]

And I don't even think you need Amanda for that. Like, I think if she doesn't want to do that because she doesn't want to share that part, which, fine, whatever. But I think you can still get the reactionary version, right. From Kyle, from Hub House, from the rest of the cast. Like, everyone's so connected. Yeah.

[Mary]

I wonder if they have the money to do that.

[Courtney]

I would think people would pay for advertising for that. At this point, I will say, I think that they have to turn it around a lot faster. I know obviously we're only somewhat halfway through the season of Summer House, but it's like, we gotta, we gotta go with this because waiting this long is like waiting this long. Yeah.

[Mary]

It's not helping them.

[Courtney]

I think it would be hard for all of them too. They're also still like, living their lives. So did you see that The Carl's a mess merch dropped over the weekend too. And I said this probably was why Amanda was good at marketing stuff. It's literally just like a black sweatshirt writing in white capitalized font.

[Mary]

Carl's a mess in the middle.

[Courtney]

Right. Exciting, fun font. It's just Ariel.

[Mary]

Right?

[Courtney]

Basic, basic, basic font. Carl's a mess. I think at the end of the day, we have evidence of things that have happened and that you can see. Oh, okay. She was wearing that. They were wearing that. Okay. Or they were not wearing that. But I do feel that the details of trying to go back so far, like, do you think this happened in season three?

[Mary]

It's like last week. Was it exciting? Yes. I Can't deny that. Okay. Oh, God.

[Courtney]

Exciting.

[Mary]

It was exciting. And I just keep on thinking about. I'm like, courtney and I were on that boat with Kyle and Wes, and we didn't know a thing. And I think by that time, he had slept with Amanda. And for me, I'm just like, that is wild. That is so wild. They were so friendly. They're buds.

[Courtney]

You know, I keep thinking about this one conversation, too. We were talking to Wes, and I was telling him about the night before at that party. I went where Kyle was DJing, and I said, oh, God, Wes. It just was, like, tough. It was tough. And his first thing was, why is Kyle. Was Kyle wasted? That was the first thing he said to me. And I was like, oh, no. It had nothing to do with that. It was more like he was DJing to a crowd who had no idea who he was. Now I look back and I'm like, diabolical. That question. Like, that question. Oh. Cause he was wasted. Like, oh, my God. And that had already happened.

[Mary]

He also doesn't seem like the type of person that would show up drunk for his DJ set.

[Courtney]

Mary, we don't know any of these people. If I've learned one thing about this, we know nobody. Because there's no way they could do this during the season. You know? There's no way. Then people are like, well, did you see the sock from when west went in there? And didn't he call her baby? And it sounds like there was a kiss. Where are the bathroom things? And I'm like, I just want to enjoy my show. I just want to enjoy my stupid little show that we've been there since season one, Episode one, when their work as twins were there and they were getting drunk off of BBC's and Twisted Tea. Let's Get Twisted. My group still uses that when we're gonna go out. Like, let's get twisted, Stephen McGee. Okay. I just want to enjoy my little show.

[Mary]

Sure.

[Courtney]

And if we need to look for clues, okay. But Sherlock Hubbard, a Detective Dodie, is all we need.

[Mary]

I think we can take a little reprieve from this.

[Courtney]

This week we say that we'll be back tomorrow.

[Mary]

Till tomorrow.

[Courtney]

We're here to give the updates. Though if there are things to update, we're here to update. I hope everybody has got a chance to touch grass. I gotta tell you, it's lovely. It. The grass, it feels good in between your toes and your fingers. It's nice.

[Mary]

Oh, man.

[Courtney]

Shall we take a break and come back with Ladies of London weeknights are

[Mary]

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[Courtney]

It feels like we're going round in circles.

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Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Mary]

Okay, this episode was called not so Fair Ladies.

[Courtney]

Clever.

[Mary]

Have you ever seen My Fair Lady?

[Courtney]

No, have you?

[Mary]

I remember watching it in second grade at my friend Bridget's house. And I don't think I had really ever seen a musical before. And I remember enjoying it.

[Courtney]

The Rhine and spine falls plainly on the plain. Or something like that. Isn't there something like that?

[Mary]

You know, I think I only saw one time.

[Courtney]

Oh, well, I've never seen it but I feel like. I feel like there's been like remakes of it. Not necessarily it being Called, like, My Fair lady, but other movies that are taking that basis, like, she's all that, right?

[Mary]

Like, oh, yeah.

[Courtney]

Isn't that. I mean, yeah. And then you take their glasses off and they're hot.

[Mary]

I love a makeover in a movie. Martha is having a party and she's gonna invite everyone. And, you know, she's a little worried because of Kimmy and Margo, And Kimmy is 50% of the problem. And Kimmy had previously met up with Missy, and they've decided to move forward. Now Missy goes and tells Margo about this. This meeting in the park with her two sons was absolutely hysterical. I mean, this was like Pam Anderson walked in or something. It was like, boobs out. These boys, Jackson,

[Courtney]

it's like the eyes popped out of them.

[Mary]

Jackson and Charlie, at first, they were really excited to get their ice cream or pop or whatever. And then they see Missy and they're like, we could see. Stay longer. Margo's like, eyes up, eyes up. I trained you boys well. I'm like, that's kind of a weird story, too.

[Courtney]

Okay. Missy, though, it was a choice. But I just realized, because at the end of the episode, she tells. She just really does love her boobs.

[Mary]

They're just out to play.

[Courtney]

She's never going to use a tape. Okay? You're going to see a tit, and you're going to enjoy it. And it doesn't matter if you asked or not.

[Mary]

No, you're. You're gonna get the show.

[Courtney]

Yeah. Yes. Margo's like, get out of here. Get out of here. Okay, I gotta talk about Kimmy and Mark. I gotta talk about them.

[Mary]

I also thought it was kind of interesting that these aren't her biological children and we still haven't met the husband.

[Courtney]

Well, and then I was also confused because, okay, the kids were there, but then she also had to fly back to go get her husband, and then she had to leave her dog. And that, I'm gonna tell you, that is something I do not enjoy about Margot, even though I do think that she was ganged up on in this episode.

[Mary]

Oh, I love how she brought it. Her delivery about Mark on this was so, so good. I mean, she's like, well, I've heard plenty of things about Mark, you know, because he's a bag holder. And Missy's like, what's that? You know, for Emma to keep him socially relevant. And that's because his family disowned him. I mean, that's just what I heard. That's just what I heard.

[Courtney]

I thought you Were talking about the line she delivered when she said best friend, I was like. I started cackling after she had said that. I was like, what is. Hey, everybody, I'm talking to my boss, Fraud.

[Mary]

I want to know more about his family disowning him though. Is this true?

[Courtney]

Give me the goss. Because the goss is that Margo's clearly changed because now she has a little bit of money from her husband. And then the goss is that basically Mark doesn't have the money anymore and he's trying to keep the society level. So.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Mary]

His house proved different. But it is very interesting that he is trying to reconcile with his father as his father is passing. Like, that kind of turned my wheels a little bit.

[Courtney]

Oh, that's evil.

[Mary]

I know, but just turn to my wheels.

[Courtney]

You think he's trying to, like, get in the will or something? He was taken out.

[Mary]

I. I did not say that, but maybe.

[Courtney]

Okay. I was like, wait, hold on.

[Mary]

Perhaps, perhaps. But Margot reminds me of like someone that's going to erewhon all the time, that is always somehow late to picking up her K but she doesn't have a job. And then she's always complaining to you

[Courtney]

of how hard things are as a teacher.

[Mary]

I imagine that she emails the school often. That's what kind of person she is. Do you know what I mean?

[Courtney]

What. What's the subject of the emails?

[Mary]

Bitching. Oh, like she seems like the type of person that if she emailed you and said, my son has a dentist appointment at 9:30, can you send him to the office on Wednesday at 9:30? And then you don't do it because guess What? You have 32 other kids. And it's not my responsibility to make sure your child gets to the office at 9:30 to go to the dentist appointment during the middle of the school day. And then she sends you a nasty email about it. And then a lot of times, you

[Courtney]

guys, I'm worried about this PTSD that's happening for Mary right now, the PTSD is wild. But keep going. This is great. I love it.

[Mary]

But then like, like a lot of times, you know, something could happen like the appointment gets canceled or they have a work meeting that comes up. So then if you actually sent them at 9:30 when you were supposed to, they'd be sitting in the office for 30 minutes and no one picks them up either.

[Courtney]

It's such a tough decision to do. Can't they just go to the office and then go get their kid? Like call for the kid?

[Mary]

Exactly. Okay, But Margo would have you. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Courtney]

I see the difficulties in Margo, I'm so sorry you had to deal with this. I'm so sorry. Because it doesn't feel like it was just one mom doing this. It feels like multiple.

[Mary]

There was some PTSD in my voice, wasn't there?

[Courtney]

Yeah, she's gonna plead the fifth on names, but guys, just know she's. She's struggling right now.

[Mary]

No, she just. She was like an annoying mom at Carla, and she could always come last, and you'd have to wait 15 minutes longer for her. You know what I mean?

[Courtney]

And she didn't care that she was late. Right? Like, you'd be like, hi, you were 15 minutes late. You know, carpool pickup is XYZ. And she'd say, okay, sorry, I won't do it again. She does it again. The next day, she'd be like, I met.

[Mary]

I was at Pilates. Sorry.

[Courtney]

And then, like, there's empty threats that you're making where you're like, well, we're not going to be here tomorrow. And she just drives away. She goes, yes, you will.

[Mary]

Also, I have made a. Have all these. I don't know what kind of person Margo is, but it just seems like she might be this type of person.

[Courtney]

I could see Margo, like, sending an Uber for her kids.

[Mary]

She probably door dashes food to the school for their lunches. People do that.

[Courtney]

What? Stop.

[Mary]

People do that.

[Courtney]

What are they doordashing like? Like, the courier service. Like, they're sending it from home where they're literally getting, like, goop kitchen sent to the school for their kids.

[Mary]

Oh, I've seen fast food delivered to students from doordash.

[Courtney]

At least send something for you, too. Oh, my God. Wow. I would love to be rich. I would love for someone to tell stories about me like this, because that means I have stupid money.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

You know, I'm paying 60k a month to live in a rainbow house.

[Mary]

That's so true. But do you think we're ever going to meet her husband?

[Courtney]

I don't think so, but we've got to see him in season two or. I think that's going to be her storyline. Who is Margot's husband?

[Mary]

It's just interesting that he would consent to have his kids on the show.

[Courtney]

Maybe he really just doesn't want to film. Like, I felt like when he was on that FaceTime, it wasn't because he was trying to hide his identity. He just, like, didn't want to deal with it.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And then I was thinking too, oh, are they filming in summer right now in London? Because the kids are off of school. So she can have them there for like a couple of months right now.

[Mary]

Remember at the beginning of the season they were like, kicking off summer at the garden party? Yeah.

[Courtney]

There you go. Okay. Wow. Okay, so we've solved it.

[Mary]

Another mystery solved. Wow.

[Courtney]

Okay, let's take a break and then I want to come back and I want to talk about the ultrasound.

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[Courtney]

Okay, so at the ultrasound, it's very cute. We're seeing what his face looks like. We're ready for the baby. But Joshua does drop the fact he doesn't want to be a part of anything about the nursery. Lottie you're on your own. He is busy. He has a show coming up. It's his craziest show yet. Do you think he's gonna slow down for the baby?

[Mary]

I would say no.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Mary]

It just feels like he's very involved in his business. He is scared to give away control and he's super hands on, and I think that's going to be a tough transition for him.

[Courtney]

I wonder if they ever got help.

[Mary]

I'm not sure, but these outfits to this ultrasound appointment are insane. She's basically wearing a crop top almost. She literally didn't even have to lift

[Courtney]

up her shirt for the ultrasound part of it.

[Mary]

And then he is dressed to the nines. He looks fantastic. But I'm like, I don't know. I don't dress up for the doctor's office because there's gross stuff on the ground.

[Courtney]

Mary, we don't dress up for anything.

[Mary]

That's true too.

[Courtney]

These are their casual outfits, by the way. These are their casual doctor's outfits. I would love to know how they pick out their outfits for the day. Because when we go to the My Fair lady party too, they're somewhat matching. And so I'm curious, like, what the closet look like. I picture, like, Clueless, you know, when she had that closet app to match her outfits. I picture that Joshua probably has it in his head like a Rolodex of everything in the closet and he's putting things together. Are they always matching? Are they always dressed to the nines? Like, what is their casual wear? Remember I told you I saw that Instagram photo and, like, a sweatshirt and it threw me off. Like, who are these people?

[Mary]

Didn't recognize them? No.

[Courtney]

Recognize you. And you're 100% cotton.

[Mary]

They are always polished, put together. Everything is thought through. I mean, fashion is their life and they present very, very well. I still need to see what the inside of their home looks like.

[Courtney]

Yeah, we gotta see that. We have to see what the nursery ends up looking like. What did Lottie choose? I also though was like, oh, he's definitely a big deal. Because when they were at the My Fair lady party and she was like, do you like my shoes? They're a Manolo Blahnik collab with Joshua. We need that Manolo Blahnik collab one day.

[Mary]

One day they'll have to do the

[Courtney]

entire design, but we will. We're free to put our names on it if you need us. If you need. Anyways, let's move on to the party.

[Mary]

The whole time I kept on thinking, isn't Martha poor. I. I was, like, worried about the finances, the cost of the picnic, you know?

[Courtney]

Yeah, no, I do. But I guess that too.

[Mary]

The venue was free.

[Podcast Host]

True.

[Mary]

Because it's outdoors.

[Courtney]

And she was also funny at one point. She was like, I used to have staff. I miss having staff because she had to pour everyone their drinks. And it was a lovely little setup. I thought it was funny, though, because you could watch all of them fight with each other. Right. There was no corner somebody was sitting in. They just moved 10ft to the right.

[Mary]

They just kept on going back to that park bench.

[Courtney]

Yes. It was like the bench and then they had, like, the tent.

[Mary]

We never actually saw them sit down at the table.

[Courtney]

And it looks so beautiful too, the little setup on the ground. We never saw it.

[Mary]

No. Okay. When Margo shows up, I immediately thought Cruella de Vil. I thought the outfit was very strange. Did she look hot? Absolutely. Did she look like she was going to Coachella, perhaps? She's wearing, like, cowboy boots. I mean, she looked gorgeous. It just didn't feel like My Fair Lady. It was a mission.

[Courtney]

Yes, but maybe she is My Fair Lady. Maybe she is that character from rags to riches. She took off her eyeglasses.

[Mary]

Mark would say.

[Courtney]

So Mark showed up as Curious George. Here's the thing. I actually think that Margot is a good character to go against Kimmy and Mark, but she needs to be more quick witted. Like when he called her Cruella, she should have said. Because she said it behind his back, she should have called him Curious George right away.

[Mary]

Yes, you're totally right.

[Courtney]

And I think that they would respect her more if she came at them in the same way. Like I think you had said when Kimmy and Missy were talking and Margot came up and was trying to do like the pint sized Popeye that you were. Like, why is she inserting herself in it now?

[Mary]

Everything Margo does is very calculated. Her talking to Missy before this event was very calculated. She's already setting up like, well, Mark, did you hear about him? Mm. Like giving the eyes. She does feel like the paid actress to be the villain. And Mark and Kimmy are, like, way more smooth. The reason why he's complimenting her coat is so other people know it's ugly. That's what I feel like he was doing. It's like in Mean Girls. Where'd you get that? It's so fetch.

[Courtney]

That's the ugliest effing skirt I've ever seen.

[Mary]

Exactly. This was that moment. And then she was like, well, are you gonna say Something about behind my back. And then he was very clever here because he's like, well, tell me what you heard. And he wasn't going to admit to.

[Courtney]

Very nosy, rosy of him.

[Mary]

There was some talk of a crushed velvet jumpsuit. And yes, I did say something about you, but I thought it was quite complimentary and that you were embracing being an actress. I never said the word fake.

[Courtney]

Kimmy's like, yeah, you did. I said, acting. This is a joyous tea party. And Margo says this in her confessional. She goes, the British aren't good with accountability. They kind of just say everything. And I'm like, kimmy is American.

[Mary]

She questions her accent this week, which also, she's lived there for 25 years.

[Courtney]

Your.

[Mary]

Your voice and tone can change.

[Courtney]

Hello, Dorit. She's a child of the world. But also, Kimmy, how dare you insult me when you insult Margot about being from la. That hurt. That did really hurt my feelings. I'm not fake.

[Mary]

I'm sorry, Courtney. You're not fake. You just say things behind people's back

[Courtney]

like a normal person.

[Mary]

Exactly, exactly. But I was laughing at Mark's confessional where he's like, well, you know, know Margot, she wants to be noticed. She's very attention seeking, and I just think she lacks self esteem. The way he says everything sounds so regal that you don't even think it's a diss.

[Courtney]

Like he's cutting you so hard. But he says it so softly and slowly but poignant that you're like, thank you. Thank you. Now, I have a question for you. Do you think that Margot is an isolator? And let me explain why you said that thing about Missy where she was trying to let her know about Mark. And then I thought when she went over to Martha's house and brought the pet psychic over one. We didn't even talk to the pet psychic about the poodle, which was the whole reason we were talking to the pet psychic. But then when she went over there to talk to Martha, I was like, is she trying to make sure that Martha's on her side and not the old money group, or is she trying to isolate Martha away from them in a way? Is she trying to do that with Missy? Do you see where I'm going with that?

[Mary]

That she's trying to create teams? Yes, I would say so, yes.

[Courtney]

Okay. Okay.

[Mary]

I would agree that with that, yeah.

[Courtney]

Maybe isolating is not the right word, but, yeah, trying to make sure that there's a line drawn in the sand. Yes, I'd agree with that. Okay. But then at the end, Martha, she's working hard because she's defending Margot a lot.

[Mary]

It was very interesting because I think Martha made a great point. She's like, the reason I'm not aligning with you right now, because you were such a.

[Podcast Host]

That day.

[Mary]

What you said about Missy's brother was inappropriate. And that's why I'm not taking your side on this for something else. I might.

[Courtney]

Yeah, because you're a psychotic bitch.

[Mary]

I know.

[Courtney]

She says it twice in the episode, by the way, and I'm like, if someone said that to me the first time, I cried.

[Mary]

The comedic timing on all of this was so, so funny because Missy's like,

[Courtney]

oh, my gosh, Kimmy, you're crying. We thought you were like a statue in stone and had no feelings.

[Mary]

And then as she's saying this, Missy's boobs are hanging out. Like, Mark is like. Like, there we go again.

[Courtney]

When Mark and Micah walk away from the group at the end of the episode and he gives one little quip, I'm like, he literally put a bow to the end of the episode. Like, it was just so perfectly timed. I was giggling too. Like, oh, my God. And by the way, the whole group is over by that park bench at that point, too. Kimmy's crying, and Margo's right there.

[Mary]

Yeah, yeah. Who is that random person in the tux?

[Courtney]

She brought, like, two random friends that showed up that I was like, are they supposed to be friends of? And they're like, what the hell is going on of here? And Martha's like, oh, my friends are crazy. I wonder if they walked away and thought that was a great day of shooting.

[Mary]

I think Margo is the only one thinking like that. She's watched a lot of reality tv. I think Martha and Kimmy are being themselves.

[Courtney]

I'd say Mark knows good tv, too. He had all that time on Made in Chelsea as well.

[Mary]

True, true. But I think, like, Kimmy just feels, like, so misunderstood. She's like, no, you're legitimately my best friend, and you're letting this girl that flew in from LA to be on this show for, like, 90 days separate us. Like, we hang out off camera. Like, this feels like, you're backstabbing me. You don't love me. I would literally hide a dead body for you.

[Courtney]

This felt really manipulative from Kimmy. For me. What?

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[Courtney]

Not one person in this group is a backstabber. I don't know who's stabbing in the back. We've said everything to each other's Faces here, like, there's no backstabbing happening. But then when she started doing all that stuff to Martha, because Martha was saying, you're kind of being out of line here. And then Kimmy was like, I would do anything for you. And then I wasn't really seeing that many tears because Martha is such an empath. If we want to talk about an empath. I thought she was trying to use that to get Martha to her side. The way that she was saying, like, we're sisters. Why couldn't she have that relationship with Margot? Her and Margo go back 20 years,

[Mary]

but I think Margo just came to be on the show.

[Courtney]

But they're all here to be on the show, though.

[Mary]

Margot feels different. She feels like she flew in to be on the show.

[Courtney]

Do you agree? Well, I mean, she was cast. I wonder if Martha got her on the show, too.

[Mary]

Yeah, that. That makes sense.

[Courtney]

Like, obviously, I know that these women all have these relationships with each other and Mark and, like, there's history that goes there. Like, you can tell that there's real friendships. I keep thinking Margo got sober because she partied so hard with Martha.

[Mary]

No, but she's so la.

[Courtney]

Okay, see, there you go again, too. Okay, Kimmy. Okay. All right. I'll remember this. I will remember this.

[Mary]

She's just going to erewhon being sober. She probably has done, like, an ayahuasca retreat. She just feels so new.

[Courtney]

Okay, but is that la, though? She's from South Carolina. I think she's an LA transplant.

[Mary]

Okay, okay. Well, it's different with you.

[Courtney]

Okay. I mean, I appreciate that. I just watch it. Mahoney. I'm gonna say we're not getting a reunion, which will be a bummer, but I hope that they pick filming up. You wonder with these shows is a second season coming. But I have to feel like with all the push behind from Bravo, that we're definitely getting a second season here.

[Mary]

Right. Summer's around the corner. I'm sure they're gonna be picking up in no time.

[Courtney]

Take us to the Serpentine party.

[Mary]

Love them. I adore them. Kimmy is my number one girl. Then Martha, then I think Mark, Emma I like, but she's just not going to be able to give us that much. I can't wait for Lottie Post, baby. Margo's at the bottom. And Micah. Micah I have learned to love, and I'm excited for Minnie Manners.

[Courtney]

I love her so much. She seems so well liked by this cast. She's a doll, which I think is just really speaks to her character.

[Mary]

Agreed.

[Courtney]

I would love to have her as a friend. Oh my gosh. How thoughtful is she? When she brought that to Emma, the stuff for the 10k that she could take with her, I just thought, she's so thoughtful.

[Mary]

Yes. I'm on her website, minimaners.com. it's interesting. It looks like they're more like cartoons.

[Courtney]

Oh, there's no puppets.

[Mary]

I don't see them. Oh, they're locked.

[Courtney]

Okay. You have to pay for them.

[Mary]

Well, no. No, you don't.

[Courtney]

How'd you unlock it?

[Mary]

It wasn't locked.

[Courtney]

Okay, there's a buy.

[Mary]

They're not puppets. They're not puppets.

[Courtney]

That's cute.

[Mary]

I love that.

[Courtney]

For her, maybe. Maybe it was just easier to animate it because those puppets couldn't hold the fork.

[Mary]

Sure.

[Courtney]

I think it's the lack of opposable thumbs.

[Mary]

You know, that that makes sense.

[Courtney]

Same reason why my dog can't hold a fork. Anyways, see you tomorrow.

[Mary]

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