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Danny Pellegrino
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Danny Pellegrino
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Mary from the Bay
Welcome back to two Judgy Girls. It's Mary from the Bay, you guys. I'm giggling because today I have the queen, icon, legend himself, a Hallmark movie star, and most importantly, a dad. Welcome to Dani Pellegrino. How the hell are ya?
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Danny Pellegrino
Hello. I'm so happy to be here with you. And also I'm holding up Dorit's book which I just got in the mail and I'm not unburdened I wish I was unburdened, but I feel very burdened in general, in life right now. And the most thing that I'm burdened with right now, and I hope I can make it through this podcast, but I'm. I'm on a water journey where I'm trying to drink more water, you know, but you have to pee every five seconds when you drink a lot of water. It's exhausting.
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Mary from the Bay
It is literally the worst.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. Like, I would rather kind of, I think, be dehydrated, but the. The sick thing is, is really does, like, help your skin and sleep and digestion and all of that stuff. It's, like, kind of disgusting. And I was realizing I was kind of walking around just like a. A dry. I don't know, desert fish or something. I don't know. I was, like, very dry, and I was like, I need to start drinking more water. Because there was a couple days where I'm like, I don't think I even had, like, a sip of, like, I had a Waterloo, which is carbonated, but I was like, I need to have more water. Anyway. That's. That's what we're at.
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Mary from the Bay
Neither. Nor there.
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Danny Pellegrino
I'm burdened by water.
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Mary from the Bay
Well, how much are you drinking now? Like, how many?
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Danny Pellegrino
I'm trying to do. I don't really have, like, a specific number. I'm just trying to do some of these big ones. But I have. Okay, so I have this one. Wait, this big. Smart water.
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Mary from the Bay
This is the smart water, guys.
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Danny Pellegrino
But then this is also part of my burden journey is I've. I also have this glass one, which makes me feel like I'm drinking out of a bottle of wine. Because it's. It's a bottle of wine, but it's water.
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Mary from the Bay
It's the Saratoga Springs, the Top Chef. A sp.
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Danny Pellegrino
That's right. And I was at Walmart, and I was, like, kind of in one of those. I had read somewhere about the Plastics, which is like, you know, what am I worrying about that for? But I was like, I should probably. If I'm gonna go on this water journey, I should get glass bottles. But I actually feel like they're dangerous because my son's always looking to knock it over or whatever. And so I gotta get rid of the now. I gotta go back to or. And Matt keeps telling me, he's like, you should just fill. He fills up. My husband fills up his jug, and he's like, just fill it up. And anyway, I'm trying my best. We're all trying our best.
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Mary from the Bay
Speaking of Lucky. How is he? He's almost one year.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know, I know. He's almost one year and it's so fun. We always get to text about, you know, where we're at in the parenting journey. But yeah, he's about to be one this weekend, two days away. Which is making me sad. Do you feel sad about the birthday?
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Mary from the Bay
This has honestly been the hardest year of my life. Like I think it being a parent is really hard. I didn't anticipate it being this hard to be hon.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know people say that it's hard and they're right. It's actually hard. It's harder than even people say.
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Mary from the Bay
I know. I just did not anticipate it being this hard because I have a boy, he doesn't like to sleep and he's a mover and a shaker. He's a party boy.
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Danny Pellegrino
I get that. You know, I get that. We're. Yeah, he's a good sleeper. Knock on wood. I mean, I hate to even say that. Cause it's like probably tonight he won't sleep, but then. But he is a mover and a shaker and just like a little Wreck It Ralph we call him. Cause he's just like wants to knock everything over and he's in that point where he doesn't want to be changed. And so it's like wrestling an alligator every time to put on a diaper full on.
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Mary from the Bay
I like do this thing, I call it body slam. Cause I'll body slam him down. Cause he'll laugh and giggle for a minute so I can quickly put on the diaper as fast as I can.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, I was just fighting with my husband because I get him up in the morning and I was like, it's really hard in the morning. I think he's got extra energy and so you gotta change them right away before the bottle. But it's like the minute I take off that diaper first thing in the morning and I can't do it on the changing table anymore. Cause he's too wiggly and so he's like sprinting off and I haven't had my coffee yet usually and I'm like, it's really hard. And so Matt, yesterday he woke him up and he was like, oh, he was so easy. And I was like, no, you don't understand. That was a one time thing. Like it's hard.
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Mary from the Bay
Well, I mean, yeah, if you have to wrestle before 8am and run a marathon, it sounds horrible. I, I get it, I get it.
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Danny Pellegrino
But it's fun too. It's Fun. I mean, there's. It's a lot of love and fun and stuff too, but it's exhausting.
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Mary from the Bay
I also, like, it's very strange to have a physical representation of time. And that's what Charlie is. I'm like, I cannot believe 10 months has gone by. Like, that is crazy to me. It's just the time is going by so quickly, and I just. I want him to be a little baby forever, and I can't even imagine him going to kindergarten or high school or leaving me. It's just. It's. It's a journey.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know. I know. I. I can't even imagine how hard it is when they go to school or. I don't know if they go to college. Like, that would. That'll kill me.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah. You're living here forever.
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Danny Pellegrino
I never thought I would say that, but, yeah, I'm sure by that time I might be like, get the. Get the hell out of the house. Totally. Totally. I'm done. I'm done.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
I'm done being burdened by your presence. But for now, I'm, like, dreading that day.
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Mary from the Bay
We also. That was one of my questions, because Dorit was on watch what happens live last night? And I was like, why is Dorit on watch what happens live last night with Jasmine? And it's because she's promoting her book. Will you read it?
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Danny Pellegrino
I will not, but I do have it in front of me.
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Mary from the Bay
You were sent it.
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Danny Pellegrino
I will. You know, I always say that I won't, and then I. I sort of end up doing that. I sort of end up reading it, like, if I'm bored one night. And the truth is, these Bravo books, they take about 25 minutes to read. They're not. They're not very advanced prose. But I was already reading. I was reading the back of the book because I got this in the mail, which it came in, like, a great package. I gotta give the props because the. Did you get the PR package? It was like, lemons, A little thing of Belvedere. Yeah, it was her drink order, which I'm exhausted by, and I'm tired of them leaning into that. To me, it's like the bunny on Beverly Hills, where I'm like, I've had enough of this bunny. Like, we.
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Chase Sapphire Advertiser
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Danny Pellegrino
It's. The joke is ruined now because everybody's so, like, constantly about the bunny, and every Easter, we have to post bunny memes, and it's like, okay, I've had enough of the bunny. And that's how I feel about Dorit's drink order of, like, they've leaned in too much. It's not funny anymore. They've ruined the joke by, like, drilling it home. But anyway, it was a nice press package, but. So I do want to read the back of the book because it made me laugh. It's so dramatic. And know how the rest of the book will be. The back of the book. It's. It's blank except for this one little quote. It says, I wasn't trying to convince anyone who I was. I already knew what they thought of me, who they thought I was. Well, period. They didn't know the half of it. It's just so dramatic.
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Mary from the Bay
Riveting. I want to rip open that book. I better learn the other half of it.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know. Gotta learn. And then meanwhile, in the middle, there's just, like, pictures of Jagger and Boy George.
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Mary from the Bay
Jagger in a Gucci. Gucci tracksuit.
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Danny Pellegrino
Dorit dressed as Wonder Woman on Halloween. It's like, whoa, that's the other half of the story we've been missing. But no, God bless.
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Mary from the Bay
Are they like, all her Instagram photos?
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Danny Pellegrino
Basically. I. I don't. That was actually the most just now that I've looked at it. So I don't know. I don't know.
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Mary from the Bay
I do feel like with these housewife books, though, like, you kind of have to listen to the audio because it's all. I mean, her accents, you know?
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. And there's also the added pleasure of listening to the audio is that they're reading their book for the first time when they're doing the audio, you know, like. Cause they're not writing these.
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Mary from the Bay
Did you listen to any of Lisa Rinna's.
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Danny Pellegrino
I mean, just like the clips on TikTok, I saw a lot of. I feel like I've seen a lot of clips on the audio on TikTok.
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Mary from the Bay
I enjoyed. I listened to a good chunk of it and I actually. I loved the way she read it because she's an actress, you know, she was in this. She was in the soaps. Like, she dramatized it and owned it, baby. And I. I felt like you were having a conversation with her versus, like, her reading her book.
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Danny Pellegrino
Totally. You know, I thought Sheena's was actually pretty good, which is probably not a popular good in the sense of, like, it gave the juice that we all want. Like, I sometimes think with the housewives, where they go wrong. I mean, all of the Bravo books, but they sort of start at the beginning. So they're like. When I was in. In kindergarten, it's like, we don't Give a flying fuck about, like, your grade school years. Maybe if it was Demi Moore's memoir or. I'm trying to think of some of the other Martin shorts I read. I loved his memoir. It's like some of those people that are leading more with talent than just their, like, reality. I hate to say that, but you know what I mean, Reality tv, it's like you're. That's just you leading. Yes, but so if I want to learn about, like, how a comedian became. Crafted their art or something, like, that's where I would want to read it. But with Housewives, it's like, I don't care, like, your grade school years. Like, I just want to hear about that one scene in season two. Like, what the fight was. And I thought, like, Sheena did a good job of just, like, being like, here's all the celebrity men that I fucked. Here's. Here's how we launched the spin off of Vanderpump Rules because I fucked Eddie. You know, like, that was. I was like, okay, that's just what we want.
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Mary from the Bay
She was honest. I actually think that book got Sheena fired from Bravo. She gave away too many secrets.
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Danny Pellegrino
But you know what? She hit that New York Times list, so.
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Mary from the Bay
She did. She did.
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Danny Pellegrino
And a lot of them don't.
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Mary from the Bay
And don't a lot of them buy their own books to get on the list?
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, there's like, the dagger. I mean, this is like a whole inside baseball thing. But there. If you look at the New York Times list, there's like a dagger. And for people who do bulk book purchases, because the New York Times list is kind of an ominous list. Like, there's not exactly. People have ideas of how it's put together, but it's largely like a mix of press say it's not just sales. So it's not, you know, you could sell 100 million books, which is crazy, but. And not make the list. So it's like a mix of all sorts of things. But some people will buy bulk purchases, and then that's when you see the dagger. And usually, you know, there's an argument to be made. Some people will say, well, I'm touring, so I bought the books myself. But, you know, like, when I did a book tour, I partnered with the local bookstops, so I didn't. I'm on the New York Times list without a dagger because I wasn't getting bulk purchases. But I think a lot of people. I know that was gross to say, mary, I'm sorry, but no, that was not, you know, a lot of people do these bulk purchases. And there. There are times where I think it. It might not be for nefarious reasons, but I think by and large, people sort of do that as a way to try to wiggle their way on the list. And the New York Times is like, no, we're not having it. We're going to put the dagger there. And most people don't know what the dagger means, but, yeah, now we do.
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Mary from the Bay
We've been cultured. And also, by the way, Danny and I have known each other because you. I feel like you were in little embarrassed right now to say you were like, oh, that was so gross. I'm like, you guys have no idea. I will never forget. Danny and I met, I think, in like 2017 or 2018, and we were both first launching our podcasts and we had no idea what we were doing. The audio was terrible.
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Danny Pellegrino
We still don't exactly know what we're doing when it comes to the technology, but we're here.
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Mary from the Bay
We just had a problem logging on together.
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Danny Pellegrino
My. My. My audio and computer has frozen at least three times since we started.
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Mary from the Bay
But we're here doing the best, sweetie. But I will never forget when we met up and we went to that Mexican restaurant which was next to Toca Madero, I believe, where she niche used to go. And that was like the first time I met you. And I was just like, I love this man. Like, it was an instant connection. But I mean, just how far we have both come. Like, you are living out your dreams. I feel like you have two podcasts a week, you're in the Hallmark movies, you're a New York Times bestselling author. I mean, isn't it a wild ride?
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Danny Pellegrino
Thank you. It's been crazy. I mean, I. Yeah, I started at end of 2017, I think is when my podcast started. And it is weird to think that we're still. And I'm so happy, like, you guys are still here. And the Crappens boys, who were pretty pre us and who've been always so supportive and amazing, but I love that so many of us are still around, still kicking, especially because we've seen, as you know, we've seen so many podcasts come and go within the Bravo world. A lot of the Bravo talent comes out with podcasts, and they last for a couple months and, you know, then go by the wayside or. Yeah, I just feel really happy and proud that we all stuck with it and we're still here.
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Mary from the Bay
I know. What a wild, wild ride. I want to talk a little news with you okay? I thought this was very big. Andy Cohen's 58th birthday was on Tuesday, and he has stepped out with a man. He has a boyfriend, apparently. Kevin Sobieski. I don't think I'm saying that right. S O B I E S K I.
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Danny Pellegrino
How would you. Sobieski. I'd say, like, Lili. Remember Lili Sobieski? Do you remember that name?
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Mary from the Bay
No.
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Danny Pellegrino
You know who I'm talking about. She was. She was an actress.
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Mary from the Bay
I thought you were gonna be like, she was Jessica Simpson's assistant from 2004.
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Danny Pellegrino
No, but if you want a Jessica Simpson connection, I will tell you that Jessica Simpson sang the song with Nick Lachey, where youe Are, which was on the soundtrack for the Lili Sobieski movie, which she starred in. She starred in this movie with Josh Hartnett and Chris Klein and Jessica Simpson, and Nick Lachey did the so from the soundtrack. So there is a Jessica Simpson connection there with Lily Sobieski. So you were sort of spot on.
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Mary from the Bay
I was onto something there. Okay, so, Kevin.
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Danny Pellegrino
Okay, sorry, everyone. I'm sorry to your listeners. They're here for Bravo stuff, and I just.
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Mary from the Bay
No, they love it.
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Danny Pellegrino
Sobieski. People will know. The audience, the millennial audience will know who I'm talking about. She looks exactly like Helen Hunt, and she sort of was like, a star for a minute, and then. I don't know where she is now, but she looked like Helen Hu. Like, they literally look like. I remember back in the day being like, why aren't they playing mother? Like, this is where my head was at as, like, a teenage boy was like, why isn't Helen Hunt playing Lili Sobieski's mom in something? Like, I was devastated about it. I'm like, who do I have to call? I was living in Ohio as, like, a closeted gay being. Like, who do I have to call to get Helen Hunt and Lili Sobieski as a mother daughter? Because they look exactly alike. And, like, I didn't know where to get that information out at. There was no social media at that time. People don't recall. There was, like, no way.
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Mary from the Bay
You had to write a letter.
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Danny Pellegrino
You had to write a letter to the studio. I did once write a letter to James Cameron to be in the first Avatar movie. This is crazy. I just recently found it because I printed it in college. I, like, wrote. I said I wanted to work on it. It was announced in, I don't know, some sort of thing, that he was doing this big, epic movie, Avatar, and I was like, I have to be A part of it because I loved his work on Titanic, and it was like I wrote him a letter, and then he never wrote me back or anything. And I think he's. I don't know if he's, like, the best person. I don't. I maybe heard things, but bad things about James Cameron, and he didn't write me back, so there you go. And I. I did not work on Avatar.
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Mary from the Bay
These still have the Avatar movies. Maybe someday.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know I don't even actually like them. It was like before. It was before I even knew what Avatar was. It was just, like, announced that he was putting, you know, this big, epic movie, and I thought, oh, my God, it's gonna be just like Titanic.
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Mary from the Bay
Sure. You wanted your Jack moment.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, like, I wanted to be on a. On a door with Leonardo DiCaprio is what I really wanted.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
And it didn't happen. I still want to be on a door with Leonardo DiCaprio. I love that. I love him.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah. You're too old, though.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know. I know. He doesn't want me to age it out, but I feel like, yeah, maybe we could be friends or something.
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Mary from the Bay
Perhaps.
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Danny Pellegrino
Wouldn't you love to see Leo do, like, a nice, light rom com?
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Mary from the Bay
I couldn't even imagine.
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Danny Pellegrino
I know that.
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Mary from the Bay
Fun pivot, though. Like a Matthew McConaughey moment or.
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Danny Pellegrino
I'd love a. I'd love, like, a holiday comedy.
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Mary from the Bay
Wait, are you gonna watch the new JLO movie?
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Danny Pellegrino
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch.
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Mary from the Bay
Do you think they're dating?
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Danny Pellegrino
I don't think so. I think they're doing that thing of, like, pretending to be. Have, like, tons of chemistry and all that stuff.
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Mary from the Bay
Like how Liam and Pamela.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, yeah. Or who's the younger version of that? Like, Glenn Powell and Sydney Sweeney. Like, I feel like they're trying to do that playbook.
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Mary from the Bay
Okay.
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Danny Pellegrino
It's working on me.
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Mary from the Bay
I. I want to watch the movie because of it going back to Kevin. So.
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Danny Pellegrino
Kevin. Oh, sorry. That was. Sorry. That was my fault. I'm sorry, listeners. Okay, I'm sorry.
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Mary from the Bay
So Kevin is 42. Andy is 58.
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Danny Pellegrino
Okay. I was most interested in the age because I looked the pictures I saw, I was like, oh, they. They seem like a good age match.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
And 16 years old. So he's. Wait, 14. He's 42.
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Mary from the Bay
So 16 years. Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
16 years is a lot. And I know that because of Patty Stanger. She used to always say anything over a decade is too much. She would always say that because she said your reference points are too different. So unfortunately, Andy Cohen, it's his Fault that. I know that. And so I can't even feel bad saying that.
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Mary from the Bay
So you're worried this relationship won't work out because of Patrick?
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Danny Pellegrino
16 years. If I'm to heed the Bravo doctrine that I've learned all these years, then I have to say it probably. It might not work out, but. But when I first saw the pictures, he looks handsome, and I am rooting for them. When I just saw the picture, I was like, oh, they seem like just like a visual good match, I thought. Right.
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Mary from the Bay
I thought they were a very handsome couple. I like that Andy is stepping out with someone. I feel like we have not seen that. I feel like his last relationship was with his co host, John Hill. So I think this is exciting and he deserves it. So I'm rooting for this relationship. But I see what you're saying about the age gap.
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Danny Pellegrino
It does seem like we. For as long as Andy's been on tv, when I saw those pictures, I was like, oh, it does feel sort of rare to see him in that light because normally we're just seeing him on. Watch what happens live and he's drilling other people about their relationship stuff. But it was nice to sort of see that. I thought it was fun.
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Mary from the Bay
Completely. Completely.
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Danny Pellegrino
Okay.
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Mary from the Bay
Other news from yesterday. Carl did a Carl's Jr. Ad. I'm just loving them making money off the scandal. What are your thoughts on everyone? You know, the uber eats ads.
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Danny Pellegrino
I think they should. The thing that was so fascinating to me with the summer house was I saw a lot of people saying, like, how inappropriate. It came up at the reunion. How inappropriate was that? Carl and Lindsay did that ad. And. And I thought, like, that's crazy. These people, this is their whole job. This is an opportunity for them to all make money. It's not like they're going into an office somewhere. Like, their whole job is to put themselves out there and monetize off their lives. Like, that's what they signed a contract to do. So. So, yeah, it might be like a little muddy waters if there's like a scandal or something, but it's like you would be so stupid to turn down the spawn con money that they're getting when a scandal like this breaks. And that's what they all are signed up for. It's. And they should all know that too, by the way. I don't even care, like, if. If the scandal happened to me, like, if I was the victim in it, but I was on a reality show, I couldn't even be mad at other people. I'd be like, yeah, this is what we're all doing. Like, it'd be absurd. And Bravo doesn't pay them. That's where they make their money is on the spawncon completely. It's, it's like absurd to me that anyone would feel otherwise. Like, I understand there's maybe some sensitivity. You wouldn't want to be mean in the ad to Sierra or whoever, but I think you'd be absurd to turn down. Those paychecks are probably so huge. And also with like the men, men don't make a lot of influencer money, you know, because products are geared towards women.
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Mary from the Bay
And so Lindsay Hubbard told us that like she makes more money than Carl on sponsorships.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. And if you look at all the Bravo talent, it's very rare for even on the shows where there are main cast member men like Southern charm or something like, you don't. We don't rarely see Shep promoting a product because who wants a product? What woman that's watching Bravo network or a gay man watching Bravo network is like, oh, Shep told me to buy this thing. Like, but the women are the ones selling the products more. And so they're making good money. And so when a scandal like this happens, it's like, yeah, you should all jump on board and make as much as you can.
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Mary from the Bay
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Mary from the Bay
this summer. House Scandal the craziest part about it is that this was supposed to be like Lindsay, Carl, Kyle and Amanda's last summer in the summer house. And the reason why they were so sad. And in that final episode, leaving, it's like, it's the end of an era for those. But because of this scandal, I think someone like Carl, who is a mess, it has reignited his career, and he could potentially go back to the Summer House or be on in the City. What do you think is Carl's future?
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, I think Carl will be back on Summer House next season. Yeah. I think Lindsay was really probably the most excited, and I don't mean this to throw her under the bus or in a shady way, but she was probably the most excited about the scandal because, a. She wasn't really involved in the scandal so much other than, like, obviously this is her friend group and stuff, but it. It helped so much launch the show in the City that, you know, I don't know that the show would have launched as. As it definitely wouldn't have launched as successfully in ratings and otherwise without this scandal. And that I think, was really kind of her baby. Plus all the sponge con stuff, plus drew all these eyes to Summer House. So she really came out of this probably, like, so thrilled. And she's PR too, so I think, you know, she comes from that background, so she probably just saw like, oh, this is great opportunity for all of us. And then Carl, I think, definitely makes sense for him to be back. I don't think Lindsay will be back to Summer House, and it doesn't really make sense for her to be completely. And I don't know that I need Carl on In the City. I would sort of rather him just be on Summer House and then maybe make appearances on in the City. I know some people want to see, like, the soft bar stuff, but I don't know. I kind of feel like I'm fine with Carl just going to somewhere house.
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Mary from the Bay
Lewis Hamilton, Kim Kardashian's beau, posted something from Soft Bar today. Like, it looks like perhaps he is selling a liquor there. I mean, it's not liquor, an NA product. He's promoting something with Soft Bar, which I thought was, like, this is pretty big deal. I also am wondering, you know, Lindsay's gonna be on Carl's podcast. I really hope they confront the handjob situation. Like, you have to put that to rest. Did it happen or not?
- [29:15]
Danny Pellegrino
Right. We need answers. And. And also, I. Do you think they'll hook up again or ever get back together?
- [29:23]
Mary from the Bay
I. No, I want them to just be friends. I do not think they would hook up again. That would be crazy.
- [29:30]
Danny Pellegrino
I think it might happen like a hookup. Okay. So on the Valley. I always say, like, at the end of next season, I think the second cast trip of next season of the Valley, it's gonna be revealed. Like, they're all gonna wake up, and Jesse and Michelle are gonna be like, you know, it's gonna be like, this secret that everyone's talking about of, like, they hooked up again. And I've been predicting this for, like, two seasons, but I think the timeline is gonna be the cast trip of next season, the second one, the, like, end of season one. And then it'll be like, at the reunion, everybody be like, wait, did they hook up? And what. So that's my prediction.
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Mary from the Bay
My mouth. My mouth is on the ground,
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Danny Pellegrino
bold.
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Mary from the Bay
And I feel like you're asking for it, you're believing in it, and you're gonna receive it. I think that could definitely happen. Okay.
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Danny Pellegrino
It just feels that in my heart feels after watching these shows for so long, I think, like, that's gonna happen watching the way that Michelle and Jesse interacted with the divorce proceedings. And I know they have contentious. And I'm not saying they should get back together or anything. I just think they'll wake up from, like, a drunken night, and everyone will be like, I think Jesse's coming out of Michelle's room or something. And then it'll be, like, a thing. And I kind of think something like that will happen with Lindsay and Carl where it might not be getting back together. It'll be like, oh, they. They kissed. Or. I don't even think it'll be, like, full sex or anything. It'll just be, like, in somewhere, maybe on in the city or Summer House, or there'll be, like, some sort of revelation. Maybe a show they're not even both on at the same time. It'll be, like a good crossover thing, but, like, it'll be revealed. Oh, Carl and Lindsey made out. The.
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Mary from the Bay
The Jesse and Michelle thing. I completely buy in. I'd actually bet money in Vegas. I love this prediction, the Carl Lindsay one. I think if. Well, if Carl still drank, I think it could happen. You know, that sounds so bad, and I don't want him to drink. You know, he. And I think he's living a great lifestyle, and he won't do that, but I think because his mind doesn't get foggy, it's lower chances.
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Danny Pellegrino
You know how I think it'll happen? I'm speaking from my heart here, so don't judge me. I know this is. You're a judgy girl, but I feel that it'll happen of, like, we'll Find out. Carl came over to Lindsay's house and Gemma was taking a nap, and they were sitting on the couch and they just kissed and that's it. And they stopped and that's it. But it'll come out at some point. I don't know. That's my, like, crazy conspiracy.
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Mary from the Bay
Danny, you dog.
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Danny Pellegrino
I'm sorry. That's how I feel in my heart. And I gotta chase my heart. I gotta follow my heart.
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Mary from the Bay
Do you think Danielle gave him an hj?
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, but I don't think. I think the confusion. I. This is. Can I be really. I'm sorry. Turn out this off this podcast if you don't want to hear something gross. But, like, I don't think that it was to completion. So I think it was like. I think there was like, some touching, and that's where the confusion is lying of, like, there was some touching, maybe a couple strokes or something, but not like a full. There was no completion. It was just like, you know, a couple rubs.
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Mary from the Bay
I also. I wouldn't be shocked if Carl or Danielle both don't even know what happened. You know, something happened, but everyone's mind wasn't in the right spot. So. Yeah. Was it over the pants? Was it a couple strokes? I agree with you. Not to completion. But my favorite thing is her having to talk about it while she's pregnant. I mean, she was on Watch what happens live. Owen, her boyfriend sitting in the audience, and Andy's like, so Danielle, I have to ask. I'm like, this is crazy.
- [33:16]
Danny Pellegrino
So uncomfortable. That's the deal with the devil that they all sign up for is like, that one day they might have to be on live television after their show talking about HJ while they're pregnant with their significant other in the audience. Like, that's the deal with the devil they sign up for, unfortunately.
- [33:31]
Mary from the Bay
I know. It's so, so crazy, but I don't know.
- [33:35]
Danny Pellegrino
I'm happy if it happened. And if you go back and watch some of those old seasons of Summer House, it's like, Carl was. And thank God and God bless, he's in a sober state of mind now. But watching some of those things, you're like, oh, he was so not there. It's not even the same person.
- [33:51]
Mary from the Bay
No. And I love what Lindsay said at this reunion. Like, this was the person you were always supposed to be. And it's a beautiful thing to see. I'm obsessed with this budding relationship. I think he deeply cares for her. I think she was, quote, unquote, blindsided, and now she's. She's listening to the audience because she's smart, and she's like, okay, it's been enough time. I gotta move forward with this. The audience wants to see us be friends, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna move on.
- [34:21]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, they always need the resolution. I think sometimes when the cast members dig their heels in, it just makes the audience turn on them. Even if. Even if we're on their side, it's like, we need the resolution part of the conflict.
- [34:34]
Mary from the Bay
Completely. Completely.
- [34:35]
Danny Pellegrino
And Andy always says that he basically is, like, telling them how to do their job. Like, he tells them all the time, like, these shows are about conflict and resolution. And you can almost see him sometimes, either in reunions or when they're interviewing. He's interviewing them on his show where he's like, encourage. Like, you should just make up with whoever it is, even though they've had these crazy fights. And in real life, I think oftentimes we tell our friends, like, just don't see that person anymore. Just end the relationship. Be done with it. But on these shows, it's like the audience needs that resol. So even if we know the person was 100% a villain, we need that resolution completely.
- [35:11]
Mary from the Bay
Completely. He kind of. They asked about kyle and dorit on watch what happens live last night. And what'd she say? She was like, yeah, I think time is good and we need space, but I'm open. I can't imagine not talking to her for 10 more years. It's like, dorit, you're not gonna have a show or a job if you don't make up with kyle. Like, you've had two seasons now, and the audience is sick of watching it.
- [35:36]
Danny Pellegrino
We're sick of it. It.
- [35:37]
Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
- [35:38]
Danny Pellegrino
We're burdened by it.
- [35:43]
Mary from the Bay
Okay, really quickly, do you think sierra will come back next season? I. I want to know where do you think Wes, Kyle, Amanda, sierra. Are they going to be filming summer house or in the city or not have jobs?
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Danny Pellegrino
I think sierra will be back. I hope so. The other thing with sierra that's interesting, I mean, know, the. The comparison's always like, scandal and summer house. Like, it's very. Obviously, that's what everyone's comparing, which they're very different in so many ways, But I think with vanderpump, they misstepped in that they had that one season afterwards, but then they decided to reboot it, and I don't think bravo will do a full reboot again. I think they kind of learned their lesson with that. And then it's like, when you look at who makes the most sense to come back. I think Ciara makes the most sense. She's got the great relationship with Mia, kj, Kyle, you know, she's good with, with Jesse. Like everybody. I think the harder thing is like west and Amanda coming back, but I don't. There's that rumor about like west having that summer house spin off show which I, I actually haven't heard from anyone that I know behind the scenes of like whether or not that's true. So I don't know if it's like a rumor or if it's an actual thing. Do you?
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Mary from the Bay
I think they like were trying to franchise it, but now I don't think they know what to do with west because it's kind of like what does the audience want, you know, and what does Sierra want? Who is going to film with them? Obviously Kyle will film with Wes. He already did. That's going to be on in the city. But like, I just, I don't know what direction it's going to go because I think they are going to try to get Sierra really, really hard. I wonder if she's going to say yes. And it's just because she might be like a Paige to Sorbo. Like she doesn't need the show anymore. She's going to be on Dancing with the Star. She's doing after she has all these deals, she's booked and busy. Does she really need the summer house? I don't know.
- [37:36]
Danny Pellegrino
And I, I kind of think it's always better when they leave on their own accord because you never really know even. They kind of did that with Ariana where it's like that one season where she came back, they, they tried to turn it on her and the audience was like, no, we're not, we're not gonna allow that. But with these shows it's like it always will take you on a roller coaster and, and the whole point of them is that you love someone one season and hate them the next. And that's sort of the, I think the fun of watching, not to go back to the Valley, but I keep saying on my show I'm like rooting for Britney now. And people are like, how can you be rooting for her? And I'm like, I just am. I think sometimes with these shows it's sort of fun to pick a player every season and be like, this is the player I'm rooting for this season. And it might not even make much sense. But like, I just go, it's like sports, there are sports. So I Just decided that I'm rooting for Britney. And I didn't always in the past, but I'm like, I am right now. And that's. I think there's, like, we should look at them like sports. And I think we. The audience used to more, and then. Then there became this thing of, like, you have your fave, and then you. You're like, ride or die for them forever.
- [38:43]
Mary from the Bay
Totally.
- [38:43]
Danny Pellegrino
I think this is one of those instances. This. These shows are, like, one of those instances where it should be season by season and completely.
- [38:51]
Mary from the Bay
You have a fresh set of eyes. My listeners have been getting mad at me because at times I will defend Amanda because I think it was very brave for her to leave that marriage.
- [39:02]
Danny Pellegrino
And if there's one thing we have learned that it's look at. I mean, we look at these people differently depending on how they edit. Bravo's really the ones in control of, like, how we're looking at these people. And everybody loved Amanda. She was gonna come out of this season as the victim and whatever. And then this shifted everything. But, like, you just never know where everything's gonna go. There's been times where people have been the nicest, and then they're the worst, and then they're the nicest again. And I don't know. It just changes so rapidly. So I don't think you can get too attached to. To any one person on these shows or. Or it's. It's a little dangerous, too, because you just never know. Yeah.
- [39:39]
Mary from the Bay
No, and I think you make a very interesting point about, like, her going out on her own terms, because probably in Bravo history, there's a bit. I'd say two handfuls of people like Tinsley. Mortimer. Tinsley. Mortimer.
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Danny Pellegrino
Mortimer.
- [39:54]
Mary from the Bay
No, Mortimer.
- [39:55]
Danny Pellegrino
Mortimer. You're right. I think.
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah. T. Tinsley. Can I wait?
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Danny Pellegrino
Can I stop you for a second?
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Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
Can I just say something? I recently saw a clip of Tinsley looking at her eggs. Her. Remember that clip on Roni went unhinged, obviously. Like, I thought that was, like, so crazy back then. Like, but after having kids now, I'm like, that was, like, really crazy. Like, knowing the surrogacy process and creating embryos and all that stuff. I'm like, that was, like, really kind of crazy. And I hate to judge, but it was, like, nuts to watch that scene back and be like, she was really crying over her retrieved eggs, which weren't embryos. They were eggs.
- [40:34]
Mary from the Bay
Tinsley was reality TV gold.
- [40:38]
Danny Pellegrino
I mean, miss her every day basically
- [40:41]
Mary from the Bay
having a mental breakdown in front of our eyes.
- [40:45]
Danny Pellegrino
Like, they all were. That whole cast was.
- [40:48]
Mary from the Bay
That was so unhinged. That would never happen. Happen now. That would never happen now. I mean, it was brilliant.
- [40:56]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, the golden years. But anyway, sorry I interrupted you. Of all the people who left on their own.
- [41:01]
Mary from the Bay
Oh, I don't even know anymore. But actually that's what Rory is giving to me. And I know you've only watched a couple episodes, but it is giving us that nostalgia, that suburban housewife. It is very interconnected. Like Jersey, they all grew up together. They love, like, go back way in time. There's like a mob undertone.
- [41:25]
Danny Pellegrino
I need a. Okay, so, Mary, your listeners are gonna be pissed, but I've only watched the first two episodes of Rhode island, and it's. It's not because I didn't love the first two episodes or anything. I just. A few weeks had gone by, and it's one of the shows I don't cover on my show, which, as I'm sure you know, sometimes it could be really fun to have, like, these shows that you don't. Aren't thinking, like, what am I gonna say on the podcast? Or I don't take notes on or whatever. And then. And that I was like, okay, that's gonna be my show. That's just for me. And so I'm like, I'm gonna binge it all when it's done. And I'm sure eventually I'll cover it a little bit on my show once I do. But I'm saving em and I can't wait because I've only heard the best things about it.
- [42:03]
Mary from the Bay
Dani, you specifically will be absolutely obsessed. This Alicia woman is everything. I mean, she is Elle woods meets Paris Hilton, but also kind of Adrita, too, from mob wife Adrita. She really has it all. You're going to be obsessed with her. I mean, this Jo Ellen character, she's nuts. I mean, she's running around the town talking about Rula and Brian and Brian cheating on Rula, and Rula doesn't care. But Jo Ellen is obsessed with her knowing the truth. I mean, it is gold. And they also feel very authentic. It feels nostalgic. It feels old school and.
- [42:52]
Danny Pellegrino
And they're not jaded yet. At least the first couple episodes I saw, I felt like, okay, these are people who. Who didn't seem to be, like, chasing fame. Exactly. I mean, maybe there's like a. I know. There's a bachelor person on there and stuff. Wait, can I ask you now, we're sort of at the end of the season now. Is there someone. Do you think the entire cast should come back as is.
- [43:11]
Mary from the Bay
Absolutely. I need every single person. However, this Rula character basically doesn't film. I don't know how she has a tagline, how she is a housewife. She doesn't go to anything in the group setting because she's worried because everyone's obsessed with her husband cheating on her. So she's been avoiding the cast and pretends to be sick. But I want them all back. And I want her husband Brian, drinking every single scene, like two shots of tequila, because once he drinks, it's almost like dexterity. Yeah.
- [43:40]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. Where do you think Dolores will fit in next season? I know she's been sort of a light presence on it. Do you think she'll even.
- [43:46]
Mary from the Bay
No, I. I don't think. I think that was. That did them a disservice. I don't know why they felt like she had to be a friend of. That was a miss for me. And I like Dolo.
- [43:56]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like they just wanted, like, a familiar face. A familiar face. But it kind of goes back to what we were saying about, like, the Vanderpump rules of it all. It's like, I think the network has learned they do need familiar faces to keep. Keep the audience that's like the super fan audience, like us, interested and invested. And I think that's. Having someone like Dolores does help that.
- [44:17]
Mary from the Bay
No, I. I get that. And. And I think they brought in Ashley I. The Bachelor girl, to probably get a new audience in a way, but they didn't. They don't need that. And they should keep the cast as is.
- [44:32]
Danny Pellegrino
Isn't it interesting how they've leaned into the. The Bachelor world in a way that they used to. It seemed like those were two separate things and it would never cross paths.
- [44:41]
Mary from the Bay
That's funny, because I didn't even think about it, because Whitney from this in the City.
- [44:45]
Danny Pellegrino
Oh, in the City. Oh, yeah, yeah. And also Jasmine. Jasmine from the Valley was on Bachelor. One of those.
- [44:52]
Mary from the Bay
And she was a cowboy cheerleader.
- [44:54]
Danny Pellegrino
Speaking of, do you think they'll ever bring back Dallas?
- [44:58]
Mary from the Bay
No.
- [44:59]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah.
- [44:59]
Mary from the Bay
No. Now, what do you think?
- [45:02]
Danny Pellegrino
I used. I don't think they should. And I don't. But I don't know. I don't.
- [45:06]
Mary from the Bay
I don't need Liam.
- [45:07]
Danny Pellegrino
There's like, maybe a tiny sliver where I'm like, oh, maybe now the audiences is so fragmented, it's harder for them to launch new shows. So I think they do kind of dip into that reboot. Well. And so I thought, may. There's maybe, like, a Sliver, but very small sliver. I don't know that they would.
- [45:23]
Mary from the Bay
Yeah, I think Miami's next on their list to bring back.
- [45:27]
Danny Pellegrino
I hope. I hope they figure out Miami. It's one of my favorites.
- [45:31]
Mary from the Bay
I completely agree. Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll actually talk about the Valley.
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Mary from the Bay
Okay, I have to tell you, I was just looking on ebay, where I go for all kinds of things I love. And there it was.
- [46:30]
Danny Pellegrino
That hologram trading card. One of the rarest. The last one I needed for my set.
- [46:34]
Mary from the Bay
Shiny like the designer handbag of my dreams.
- [46:37]
Danny Pellegrino
One of a kind.
- [46:38]
Mary from the Bay
Ebay had it. And now everyone's asking, ooh, where'd you
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Danny Pellegrino
get your windshield wipers? Ebay has all the parts that fit my car. No more annoying, just beautiful.
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Mary from the Bay
Millions of finds, each with a story. EBay, things people love. Okay, Dani, every week I sing the theme song.
- [47:03]
Danny Pellegrino
I'm all right. That one.
- [47:06]
Mary from the Bay
Everything is all right.
- [47:09]
Danny Pellegrino
I'm all right. It's like that gravelly. I was saying, it's like it reminds me of a song that would play before you, like, put on a football game or something. And it's like Carrie Underwood singing background vocals or something where it's I'm all all right. It's like so gravelly.
- [47:25]
Mary from the Bay
You sound like Luann singing it after a couple sicks.
- [47:28]
Danny Pellegrino
Do you ever see that video? My favorite Luann singing video is when she does Miley Cyrus's flowers and she's like, I can buy myself flowers.
- [47:38]
Mary from the Bay
I have seen that show, that cabaret show, like seven times. She's.
- [47:44]
Danny Pellegrino
I know we've gone together at some point. I think we. Yeah, one of them. And don't you remember? It was probably like one of her first ones. Was it both of you there or. Yes. Okay.
- [47:56]
Mary from the Bay
Literally, she did a double header. We saw the second one and it was a back to back show and it was so chaotic, you guys, like, so crazy. We didn't know what we were going to experience. I. The girl couldn't carry a tune. I will say it's gotten better, but I mean, mean, it was.
- [48:15]
Danny Pellegrino
The bar was low, it was unhinged, it was nuts.
- [48:18]
Mary from the Bay
And I. My mom called me. She was like on the Today show kind of recently, like in the fall, and was like this countess, L. Wayne. She's like in her 60s, traveling the world with this cab. I'm like, mom, I've seen it like eight times.
- [48:35]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. Like, she's just got that newsboy cap and a pack of marbles in her suitcase and she's ready to go tour the world. World.
- [48:42]
Mary from the Bay
It's truly wild. Like, she was a countess. She lived on the Upper east side, had a Hamptons home. You know, she had that, what was it, Rosie? Her nanny that like, did everything for her. And now she has to go around the world at 60 years old, like, to hustle. It's just crazy.
- [49:02]
Danny Pellegrino
It's so crazy. And I remember back at that first show of being like, we have to go, because this is probably like a one time, you know, like, this is not gonna happen again. And then it's like we're like 10 years later now and she's still doing it. But yeah, I don't. I just remember that night being like, oh, I'm so glad we're making it to one of these shows because this might, this might be it.
- [49:22]
Mary from the Bay
This is a really special moment.
- [49:24]
Danny Pellegrino
This is it. Like, this is the one time she's touring, like, well, we're never gonna get this kind of chaos again. And then it just like never stopped for 10 years.
- [49:32]
Mary from the Bay
I know, I know. It's truly insane.
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Danny Pellegrino
I remember Ben and I met her at that first show and she, like, heard my last name or something and she was like, oh, my. I know the Pellegrinos from the Suez Canal or something. And it was like, not my family, but I was pretty tipsy. I think Ben and I were drunk and I probably said, like, yeah, you're right. Like, that was my family and it was not related at all, but it was like she was going on about, I don't know, the Suez Canal and her, you know, all that stuff. I hope. I, I'm. I, I guess I could say this. It's sort of, like, a good tease. But I've been. I have some friends who work on that new show they're doing for E. And I think it might actually be good. And I thought it was going to be terrible. I was like, I don't know. But I think it might be good on accident, but I think it's going to be good.
- [50:19]
Mary from the Bay
I am very hopeful. The promos are such low budget. It's not even the women together. I mean, the last promo was them. I think they were doing something for Gay Pride and it was a commercial for it. And it's all of them separate, filming themselves. Like, Kelly Bensimone is in a car with a seatbelt on. I'm like.
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Danny Pellegrino
And they're all just saying gay rights.
- [50:41]
Mary from the Bay
Yes. I'm like, you guys can't pay to fly them all to one space for a day. Like, you're gonna make so much money off this show. And you have them send video clips from their iPhones.
- [50:55]
Danny Pellegrino
No, they're paying them in Buffalo Wild wing safe cards. Like, they don't have a budget over at E. Unfortunately. I know, like, this is very inside baseball, but E sort of was spun off, so. It used to all be owned by NBC Universal, but E sort of spun off, but NBC Universal kept Bravo because Bravo's such a successful network and has such a devoted fan base.
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Mary from the Bay
But.
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Danny Pellegrino
So E is different now than it was forever.
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Mary from the Bay
Right.
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Danny Pellegrino
And they don't have any. There's no money over there at E. Like, there's nothing there. It's like a. You know, E's a mess. They're not launching new shows. When's the last time you've heard of E. Launching? They have, like, maybe a couple. They have House of Villains and whatever. But it's not like 10 years ago where they were launching a bunch of shows. They don't have money over there anymore.
- [51:36]
Mary from the Bay
The last show I watched on E was like that Juliana Rancic reality TV show with Bill.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, I don't even. When was that?
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Mary from the Bay
In the early 2000s, I would say.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, yeah.
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Mary from the Bay
Long time ago.
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Danny Pellegrino
And all their reality was always a lesser version of Bravo. It was always trying to do their version of Bravo, but it. Bravo has the Bravo wink. They do it better than anyone.
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Mary from the Bay
Well, I was actually very surprised that those women were able to, like, leave Bravo, like, contract wise. And I mean, it's. It's interesting because I think, like, Sonia and Lou need the money. Ramona doesn't. I don't know about Kelly, Ben, Simone, but how much do you think they're getting paid?
- [52:17]
Danny Pellegrino
To do this, like a $20. $20 Buffalo wild wings gift card for the season. That's what I think. And I do think they probably tried to get on Bravo. This is my conspiracy theory. I don't know this to be true, but Dorinda was announced, like, late after they had the firing of Jill.
- [52:33]
Mary from the Bay
Yeah.
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Danny Pellegrino
But I think from what I understand, Dorinda was always supposed to be a part of it. I think what had happened. Dorinda was, like, still under some sort of maybe deal because she's developing that Bluestone spinoff that was announced. I don't know if it's still going forward. So I think she had a stronger.
- [52:50]
Mary from the Bay
Yep.
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Danny Pellegrino
Relationship.
- [52:52]
Mary from the Bay
Right. And I imagine these contracts are like, you can't do something else with another network for two years or. I don't know. Something like that. I will definitely be watching.
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, I'll watch. But I have heard it's. I heard it's, like, kind of. I think it's gonna be good. Like, the things I've heard from. I'm like, oh, that's. It's gonna be maybe good.
- [53:09]
Mary from the Bay
That's great. I'm looking forward to it.
- [53:11]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah. Okay. The Valley.
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Mary from the Bay
The Valley. Okay. I'll just ask you some questions.
- [53:16]
Danny Pellegrino
Okay.
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Mary from the Bay
Janet and Jason, this season, do you feel like they are feeling vindicated?
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Danny Pellegrino
Yeah, I. I think so. I know people who hate them because I sometimes say nice things about them on my show, and people get so mad about it, as I'm sure you might get that too. It's like, if I say even anything a little bit nice about Janet or Jason, people are like, I hate them. You know, people hate them so, so much. But I think, like, they are having. They're coming out of the season looking better. I think they have a good relationship. I think he's like a good husband. I even said people were. Were upset about him being upset about not being able to play with his son. And I thought it was nice of him to, like, open up. Like, I. I understood it, and I thought, like, you know, men especially, I think straight men and their sons, they. They bond over, like, the physical, like, wrestling and throwing them up in the air and all that kind of stuff. And when you take away that bond, I feel like they're having a good season. And. And also the audience is sort of realizing the Danny and Nia of it all. And. And we're seeing even the. The interesting thing is even Bravo's telling us, like, hey, look at Dani and Nia. Because in this last episode, it almost felt a little stagey. When Jasmine found that white claw in Britney's spare bathroom. And I thought, like, Bravo might have just done that because they had the footage of him drinking at that party and sneaking it. And so they're like, oh, let. Let's, you know, use this. But that's Bravo being like, hey, look at Danny.
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Mary from the Bay
They are trying to show us this quote unquote drinking problem. And the way that Britney's like, put the chili in the fridge. And then Jasmine comes back and is like, there. There's a white claw in White Claw. And Britney's like, I don't drink white claws. Also, I'm on an oxy, but my boyfriend didn't pick it up. I gave him money for flowers.
- [55:09]
Danny Pellegrino
I need my pay pills. I need my pay pills. Brandon, go get them. One thing I asked you to do, get my pain medication. I asked you to pick that up. She was pissed. And I get it too. She's just went through all that thing. Like, that, man, is the worst.
- [55:24]
Mary from the Bay
Wait, I am like you. I am rooting for Britney. And I couldn't believe how Jesse came so strong for her. This episode that feels, like, out of left field. And like, Tom Schwartz, the voice of reason, he's like, she doesn't have a mean bone in her body. Like, of course, maybe Jax was going after Danny and she latched onto that because it was taking the heat off her because he was abusive.
- [55:48]
Danny Pellegrino
Devil's advocate with Jesse is like, I was happy because that also felt a little bit like a producer being like, hey, Jesse, nothing else is going on. We need something else. Jesse's like, okay, I'll be the villain. You know, like, people already kind of think of me as the villain. Like, I'm just gonna go after Britney. Like, it didn't even feel like. I don't even know that he really cared about it so much as just like, okay, I'll just. Let me just bring up a name. And, like, Brittany was the first one he thought of and was like, okay. And thank God, because that was. That is my big complaint. Like, I think the Dani and Nia stuff makes for good tv. I just think the problem we're in with the Valley right now is if we just had that as, like, a storyline, but also had other storylines going on, it would be. I think it'd be a juicier, better season. But when we just have that, it's like, at a certain point, I'm like, okay, we gotta move on from this, or we need other stuff going on as well.
- [56:35]
Mary from the Bay
Right? But yet people are watching this, like, People are watching this every week. They are committed to this story. I don't know if they're hate watching it.
- [56:45]
Danny Pellegrino
It's good TV though. It is good tv. If you just sort of look at entertainment. It's like we are watching and. And it. It's good entertainment too, because we can all have an opinion on it. It's like we can. And it could all be different opinions. It's like I. You could feel bad for Nia, you could feel bad for Danny, or you could. You know, there's so many different ways to look at. You could. You could see like, oh, Janet's vindicated. Or. Or I still. You know, there's so many different ways to look at that. The show through that lens. And you could feel differently than your next door neighbor or your friend that you text with these shows about. Like, everybody can have sort of a different opinion. And then. Then I think that drives viewership too because everybody's like posting about it and arguing about whose side they're on and all that stuff.
- [57:28]
Mary from the Bay
What do you think's gonna happen between Danny and Nia?
- [57:30]
Danny Pellegrino
I don't think anything. She seems committed to that relationship. I don't know. She seems committed to it.
- [57:37]
Mary from the Bay
Gonna be ride or die.
- [57:38]
Danny Pellegrino
They're gonna be over in Santa Clarita and having babies, I guess. I don't know.
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- [57:44]
Danny Pellegrino
I. I always say lovingly, she's got five under five. Five. She's got the four kids and the. And the husband under five' five.
- [57:51]
Mary from the Bay
Right. What do you think about Lacy?
- [57:55]
Danny Pellegrino
I like Lacy. For the show. There was one quick little moment where she's combing the. Do the daughter's hair. And I thought like, I would. If I was Michelle, I would've been livid. And there's like, been a few moments like that where I just thought if I was. If I was the parent and I saw my ex, who I'm not even divorced, with like combing my daughter's and they're not married or like, I. I would have just been livid to see that on tv. I just thought like that. And I thought maybe this is putting too much onus on Lacy. But I thought like, she should have had the wherewithal to be like, I'm gonna be nice to the kid on camera, of course. But I don't know, that felt like a little too intimate to me. And maybe that was like very small nitpick thing of me, but I would have been livid.
- [58:34]
Mary from the Bay
I noticed that as well. And that would cut me to my core.
- [58:38]
Danny Pellegrino
Yeah.
- [58:39]
Mary from the Bay
Yeah. I Just.
- [58:40]
Danny Pellegrino
It was just too far. And I feel like there's been a few moments, and Michelle's talked about even, like, her picking the daughter up at school or something. Wasn't that a thing?
- [58:48]
Mary from the Bay
I think Lacey has gotten her very expensive gifts and clothing, and Michelle's like, I would never buy this for my daughter. I don't want my daughter to expect to get a Gucci sweatsuit or whatever that may be.
- [59:03]
Danny Pellegrino
I kind of feel like if. If you're just in that dating phase, which they've not been together that long, it's. It seems like pretty early. And they're not married or engaged, and Jesse's still married, technically, to Michelle. So I think in that kind of timeline, if I was the other person coming into the relationship, if I was the Lacey, I would. You would. I think she should take some steps back now. Is it good for TV and everything? Yeah, it's great. I sort of wish Michelle would just be a little more vocal. I think that would be good for the show for her to be, like, a little more vocal about what's happening, because it clearly bothers her.
- [59:34]
Mary from the Bay
I mean, do you think we're gonna get another sighting with Michelle and Dr. Dre?
- [59:38]
Danny Pellegrino
I hope so. We better get answers to that. Like, and I really feel. Especially earlier in the season when people were writing off the Valley, and I thought the first half of the season was bad, you know, it was kind of slow, and then it picked up for me. But I keep thinking, like, they have a big scandal in them. Like, I don't know what it is.
- [59:59]
Mary from the Bay
I think. I think you claimed it at the beginning of this podcast, which is Jesse and Michelle hooking up on the second cast trip of next season.
- [60:06]
Danny Pellegrino
Even bigger than that, though. I think they have it in them. I don't know what it is exactly, but the cast is messy, and. And sometimes I do think we need to stick with these shows through the rough patches, because, I don't know. Even with Summer House, I didn't expect Summer House to have a scandal in them in this way. But the Valley cast, I'm like, I do expect some. They're. They're too. They're too a little. They're seedy, you know, like, they're a little mischievous. They're seedy.
- [60:31]
Mary from the Bay
And I.
- [60:32]
Danny Pellegrino
And I love them. I say that lovingly and. But I just feel they have. They have it in them. I don't know where exactly, like, the Michelle, Jesse thing, little scandal, but I think something bigger could happen with them.
- [60:44]
Mary from the Bay
Oh, my God. Something is brewing in the Valley. I. Okay, I'm not gonna say that. Okay.
- [60:51]
Danny Pellegrino
What do you. Wait. Say it. What were you gonna say? What were you just. You have a scandal idea, and the Dr. Dre thing. Great little scandal. And maybe that. Maybe that could play a larger role in whatever hypothetical scandal we're imagining, but.
- [61:05]
Mary from the Bay
Right. No, I'm not gonna say it out loud. I'm too scared. I'm scared.
- [61:09]
Danny Pellegrino
Say it. Can you say, like, a nice version of it? You know what? You're a judgy girl, and people need to realize this is your opinion.
- [61:14]
Mary from the Bay
I'm literally scared.
- [61:16]
Danny Pellegrino
Just give me. Give us a hint. Just do that nice version of it.
- [61:19]
Mary from the Bay
Danny.
- [61:20]
Danny Pellegrino
Oh, Danny. Oh. We use our imaginations.
- [61:24]
Mary from the Bay
Exactly.
- [61:25]
Danny Pellegrino
Tell everyone. Here's what I tell everyone on my podcast. Close your eyes and imagine. And imagine the worst thing you could think about with Dani. And maybe that's what I'm thinking. You know, like, does everyone use your imagination?
- [61:40]
Mary from the Bay
I love that. And you know what? I think that's a perfect part to stop Dani. This was so much fun. Everybody listened to everything iconic. I simply adore you. I am obsessed. I could have talked for three more hours.
- [61:54]
Danny Pellegrino
Wait, can I leave listeners? Cause we just left with Danny from the Valley, and I've been getting messages and comments and stuff. People think I'm Danny from the Valley. Like, it's Harry. I got the craziest DM the one day I read it on my show because it was, like, so wild. But I've been getting DMs, still not a lot anymore. Like. But there was a couple weeks ago where I was getting these messages that was like, you're a drunk. The way you treat your wife is terrible. She needs to leave your ass. You know, Like. And I think. Because my theory is that my. My picture is me on Watch what happens live. And so I think people just see that. And Dan and I do live in the Valley, but I'm not Danny from the Valley. I mean, he's. I actually do live in the Valley. He's in Santa Clarita, which I don't know if we consider the Valley, but I'm getting messages as him, and it's. It's very disturbing because, you know when you're half awake in the morning and you just, like, look at your notification? I'll look. It'll be like, you're a drunk. I hate you. You know? And then I read further, and I'm like, oh, that's not for me. But it. It's. It is sort of traumatic for me to read things.
- [62:56]
Mary from the Bay
Morning jarring Way to start the day.
- [62:58]
Danny Pellegrino
So, so I just would like to encourage everyone, I'm Dani Pellegrino. And so if you follow me or whatever, like, I'm a different Danny from
- [63:05]
Mary from the Bay
the Valley, the Pellegrino of the Suez Canal.
- [63:09]
Danny Pellegrino
And if you are sending a message or commenting on, you know, just like, make sure it's the right person. And, and some of those messages were very dark. And I understand, we feel very passionate about these shows, but, you know, Nia, she's chose her life, Danny's chose his life. And you know, maybe take a beat before you send it and just double check the handle and, and double check, like, is this something I want? Like, do I need to be shouting this that you're an alcoholic to a stranger? Your wife is going to leave you with her kids and I wish you death. Or, you know, like there's some dark stuff. So don't, you know, just be careful, don't do that. Or at the bare minimum, don't do it to me. If you mean to send it someone else.
- [63:57]
Mary from the Bay
That is a good tip for people. Okay.
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Danny Pellegrino
I love you. Thank you for having me.
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Mary from the Bay
I love you so much. Okay, guys. Unburdened. Bye.
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Danny Pellegrino
Just burdened. I'm burdened.
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