TJG: Wednesday Summer House Catch Up and S10 E15 (Part 2)!

Summary

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Two Judgey Girls

Episode: “TJG: Wednesday Summer House Catch Up and S10 E15 (Part 2)!”

Release Date: May 14, 2026
Hosts: Courtney & Mary

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Bravo’s Summer House Season 10, Episode 15, recapping the explosive Kyle and Carl fight, the unraveling of Kyle and Amanda’s marriage, shifting alliances, and emotional reckonings inside the house. Courtney and Mary break down the house dynamics, draw on Watch What Happens Live insights, and unpack the fallout from blurred friendships and romantic entanglements. The tone is sharp, empathetic, and irreverent, full of personal asides and signature Judgey humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reenactment of the Kyle & Carl Fight

[03:23 - 06:31]

• The hosts kick off by role-playing the confrontation between Kyle and Carl, highlighting the height dynamic and escalating insults.
  • Courtney (as Kyle): “Nothing. You bitched and whined all summer. Oh, I'm so sensitive, you big fucking loser.” [04:18]
  • Guest/Mary (as Carl): “Thanks for your lack of support of me, you big fucking Luger loser. Go focus on yourself for once.” [04:26]
• Notable that no production staff intervened; Courtney likens it to a nature documentary: “We have to let the animals go after each other…we cannot mess with nature here.” [06:31]

Diffusion Attempts & House’s Reaction

[06:48 - 11:13]

• Amanda attempts to silence Kyle physically—Mary notes this only escalates tensions. Wes tries to warn Amanda, and a tangle involving hands and whispered advice ensues.
• Courtney analyzes Amanda’s silence (her “armor”) versus Kyle’s emotional volatility: “They are a terrible match...the way that they get under the other person’s skin.” [12:12]
• The Sierra/Kyle ‘separation’ suggestion becomes a bombshell, both hosts noting future reunion fallout.

Emotional Fallout: Kyle’s Breakdown

[11:46 - 17:34]

• Both express sympathy for Kyle, who crumbles under marital, financial, and personal pressures.
  • Notable Quote: Mary about Kyle: “You could tell he was just like, this is my real life. Like, I am a mess.” [14:00]
• Kyle reveals he and Amanda haven’t had sex for seven years: “We haven't had sex in seven years. There's been no attention, friendship, or partnership...” [15:39]
  • Hosts are shocked at the timeframe and doomed trajectory of the marriage.
  • Courtney: “You need to have sex with your partner. This is crazy to me.” [16:17]

Miscommunications and Defensive Dynamics

[17:34 - 23:40]

• Carl, on WWHL, expresses regret post-fight and disbelief at Kyle’s choices.
• Bailey’s attempt to “diffuse” by trying to make out with Carl is noted for levity.
  • Courtney: “She’s going to diffuse the situation by recommending to make out.” [18:11]
• Sierra, Wes, and Jesse’s dynamic on the porch reveals cracks in their triangle.
  • Courtney laments Sierra staying too long in West’s room and recognizes blurred lines post-make up.

Wes and Sierra: The Push-Pull

[24:36 - 27:33]

• Courtney observes that Wes avoids confrontation and “wants the audience on his side.” [24:36]
• The phrase “best friends” is code for more, with neither Wes nor Sierra able to lay down clear boundaries.
• Mary: “Everyone has just that one fucking guy. Everyone has that one guy that makes you a cuckoo.” [27:33]

Kyle & Ben: Bromance Amid Chaos

[27:41 - 29:59]

• Humorous visual of Kyle in boxers, with a mustache and wounded finger, underscores his low point.
  • “Something about Kyle wearing these blue boxers…and with the mustache on top of it. I was giggling so hard, like, I could not take the man seriously.” [28:09]
• Ben provides much-needed comfort, identifying how men sometimes resolve conflicts differing from women.

Amanda’s Vulnerability & Self-Esteem

[42:32 - 45:11]

• Amanda has a “sad victim girl” moment in bed with Mia and Sierra, calling herself that: “Sad victim girl. Literally saying, don’t take pity on me.” [42:32]
• Courtney points out Amanda’s deeply low self-esteem and pattern of silent shutdown: “Her self-esteem is so low...she puts up with Kyle, that she thinks she deserves these situations.” [43:11]
• The awkwardness of private conversations happening in a shared bed is lampooned.

Resolution Attempts & Next Moves

[32:02 - 35:19, 45:16 - 47:46]

• Carl and Kyle reconcile in a tender, mustachioed hug, acknowledging mutual failings and pain.
  • Carl (via Mary): “You know, I love you. I’m sorry. I hate not being able to support you. I lost my shit. I made this situation worse.” [32:22]
• Amanda and Kyle’s attempts at post-fight conversation are stilted and unresolved; Amanda is more angry at being left home than at the original offense.

Broader Reflections & Judgey Theories

[36:56 - 41:44]

• Courtney and Mary discuss how public opinion on Kyle has shifted due to recent events (“court of public opinion,” [40:02]). Previously “the bad guy,” he now garners sympathy.
• Speculation on Amanda’s lack of contribution to the marriage, and murmurings about who “provides” emotionally or logistically.

Wes, Sierra, and Jesse: Friendgroup Dynamics

[47:50 - 55:25]

• The next morning’s banter about a ridiculous hat signals a lighter tone before returning to Wes/Sierra.
• Lindsay finds it “hard to hate” Wes, recognizing he’ll land on his feet despite the tension.
  • Notable quote: “It’s really hard to hate you. And it’s so true. He’s gonna be fine after this, I have a feeling.” [52:01]

Reflections on the Season & What’s Next

[56:15 - 59:00]

• Both hosts admit to rooting for Amanda but express real empathy for Kyle by episode’s end.
  • “I came into this season rooting for Amanda. Kyle was the bad guy this episode. I was crying for him. I felt awful for the guy.” [56:15]
• Constantly tying episode events to anticipation for the reunion and the upcoming spinoff, In the City.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Height-based banter in role-play:
  • Courtney: “Yeah, I said because it’s of our height difference. We are the same exact height, everyone. I’d six and three quarters. Round it to five seconds...” [03:35]
• Sympathetic take on Kyle’s finances:
  • Courtney: “He has a $55,000 loan payment a month. He basically has to make $100,000 a month to cancel out that payment...that man needs to take these DJ kids.” [14:52]
• Reaction to Kyle’s sex-bombshell:
  • Courtney: “You need to have sex with your partner. This is crazy to me. Do you think it’s an exaggeration? I hope so.” [16:17]
• Amanda as “sad victim girl”:
  • Guest/Mary: “Sad victim girl. Literally saying, don’t take pity on me.” [42:32]
• On why Jesse is annoyed by Kyle:
  • Courtney: “Jesse gets annoyed at Kyle very often, and I think he thinks Kyle is a problem.” [31:53]
• On changing public sympathy:
  • Courtney: “This is how one thing can change so many things, truly.” [39:56]
• “Everyone has just that one fucking guy…”
  • Mary: “Everyone has that one guy that makes you a cuckoo.” [27:33]
• Contemplating failed boundaries in friendships:
  • Courtney: “We need to put that conversation and that boundary there. But we didn’t. We left the door open to see whatever and now it’s like another conversation…” [57:16]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:23] — Reenactment of the Kyle & Carl argument
• [06:48] — House tries (fails) to diffuse tension
• [11:46] — Lindsay apologizes to Amanda, Amanda debriefs
• [15:39] — “Seven years” since Kyle and Amanda had sex
• [18:11] — Bailey tries to make out with Carl for comic relief
• [27:41] — Kyle and Ben comfort scene; mustache levity
• [32:02] — Carl and Kyle’s emotional reconciliation
• [42:32] — Amanda’s “sad victim girl” monologue
• [52:01] — Lindsay says it’s “hard to hate” Wes, future speculation
• [56:15] — Hosts reflect on siding with Kyle

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Judgey Analysis & Final Thoughts

• Relationships in Ruin: Both main couples (Kyle/Amanda, Sierra/Wes) are highlighted as flawed, with little hope for reconciliation without clearer boundaries and communication.
• Sympathy for the ‘Villain’: This episode marks a turning point in viewer sentiment for Kyle, as his emotional unraveling is seen as painfully real.
• Blurry Friendships: Amid make-ups and blurred lines, the hosts prophetically note that another “conversation about the nature of the relationship” is sorely needed between Wes and Sierra.
• Anticipation for Reunion: Both hosts are desperate to see next week’s finale and the inevitable reunion, expecting more bombshells and accountability.

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Summary for Listeners

This episode of Two Judgey Girls immerses you in the drama, chaos, and fragile alliances inside Summer House. Courtney and Mary act out the show’s wildest fight, dissect every emotional breakdown and hug, and expose the blurred lines in friendships and romance. They’re shocked at Kyle’s admissions, critical of Amanda’s passivity, and deeply aware of the changing tides of public opinion. With trademark wit and empathy, they chronicle a house (and a marriage) teetering on collapse, while keeping one eye on the upcoming reunion fireworks.

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Transcript

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[Courtney]

Foreign.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, and we're back. This is called Full House. And let's just kick off with this fight. Courtney, I am going to be Carl and you can be Kyle, obviously.

[Courtney]

Yeah, I said because it's of our height difference. We are the same exact height, everyone. I'd six and three quarters. Round it to five seconds. Okay. All right. I don't. Mary, I don't want to start with this. This was, like, really upsetting to me.

[Guest Commentator]

You can do it. You're Kyle. Get in. Get in character.

[Courtney]

Okay, well, let's remind everyone where we've left off. Right. Last episode. We end that. Kyle has sprinted out of the house and Carl is going after him. And Kyle has thrown a lover bo because he is upset and Carl is not gonna take it. Are you ready?

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

You, Carl.

[Guest Commentator]

Me? What did I do to you?

[Courtney]

Nothing. You bitched and whined all summer. Oh, I'm so sensitive, you big fucking loser.

[Guest Commentator]

What did I do to you? I supported your fucking ass all summer. Thanks for your lack of support of me, you big fucking Luger loser. Go focus on yourself for once.

[Courtney]

Off you six five.

[Guest Commentator]

Which guys, that's like a compliment.

[Courtney]

Also, so was Carl. So was Carl's. When Carl said, go focus on yourself for once. Like, that's very nice. Because he focuses on everyone else. He said, focus on yourself. And he said, you're tall.

[Guest Commentator]

And then Carl says, all right, hit me.

[Courtney]

Hit me. And they, like, flashback into the house because the shouting is going on. And Amanda's like, he is not okay. And I don't know which he she's actually referring to because neither of them are right now. And everyone's, like, running out to go see what's going on.

[Guest Commentator]

And then, Carl, what the is wrong with you? Look inward. Look inside. I'm sick of this.

[Courtney]

Everything you are saying is about you. And Amanda's like, carl, stop. No one's attacking you. And Carl goes inside.

[Guest Commentator]

This was shocking because Lindsay is like, carl, Carl, look at me. Take a deep breath. Like she is trying to be his comforter diffuser. Like, everyone's a little bit scared that people are going to say things they don't mean that. Go too below the belt. Like, they're so ignited on. Watch what happens live. Carl said this is the maddest he's been in a fight sober.

[Courtney]

Yeah. It has escalated so hard. I mean, at one point, they're in each other's faces. I mean, they're not in each other's faces because Carl's bent down, like, a lot. But, like, they are face to face that the guys are having to pull Carl away from him so that nothing happens because they're worried. I actually was surprised, too. At no point did production step in here.

[Guest Commentator]

So I feel like in a preview we previously saw, there was footage of production holding people back, and it wasn't just all the people of the house. But maybe I'm wrong.

[Courtney]

I don't remember seeing production at all. But I did find it interesting that none of them were there. I mean, they're obviously filming. It was like. It was a document documentary. You know, when we are in the Sahara desert and we have to let the animals go after each other, we can't step in, you know, we cannot mess with nature here.

[Guest Commentator]

Right? Right.

[Courtney]

Kyle is just, like, outside. He's like, I'm sick of this, mind you, too. Kyle has, like, Ben with him. He has Jesse, Amanda. Let's talk about west and Amanda, though, because I don't know if you noticed this at one point. I hate this part of it, too, is like, Amanda has her hands, like, choking him almost. She's trying to, like, put her hand over his mouth to silence him. She's, like, yelling at him, which none of this is helping diffuse the situation. Lindsay is the only person who's actually diffusing the situation.

[Guest Commentator]

Well, she was really worried what he was going to say next, so she was putting her hands on his mouth because Kyle was like, I didn't put money in. In his business because I put more money in my own business than he will ever. And so, like, that's when she's, like, getting really nervous. So I feel like she's, like, trying to cover his mouth so he doesn't say anything.

[Courtney]

Stop being a Vagisil. Vagisil woke up this morning. He's like, why are you tagged so much? I'm just kidding. I have no idea. But I just think, like, vagiselle. I was like, was he gonna say, stop being a vagina? And then was like, don't say that. So then Vagisil came to mind, like. But also what's happening here, too, though, is Wes tells Amanda in the house not to go out There, Let them duke it out sort of thing. Then at one point, you know, he got, like, close to Amanda, but then puts his hands up like, he's not touching her. But then as she has her hands around his neck and is, like, trying to silence him, he then grabs her up top. So, like, it's almost like his hand is on her. Like, no boob.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, okay.

[Courtney]

No, it's higher up. And he whispers something in her ear. And I don't know what he says if he's just like, back off. Don't put yourself in this. Let the guys deal with it. But it's very strange. It almost looks like he's kissing the back of her head, but he's whispering something to her.

[Guest Commentator]

So I thought he put up his hands because he was nervous. People were, like, gonna start throwing punches. So he was like, hands up. Like, I'm not gonna, like, physically fight.

[Courtney]

No, right, right. I'm saying. But he did this. And then it was like. Then he grabbed her.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay.

[Courtney]

And like, I think he was trying to pull her away. I think he was probably like, just go inside.

[Guest Commentator]

Because Amanda said, I'm gonna punch you in the face, Kyle.

[Courtney]

Like, you're okay. So Carl and Kyle are about to get in a fate in a fight, and your way of defusing it is telling him that you're gonna punch him in the face. Like, that's not helpful. What?

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And Carl's just like, I'm just trying to calm his ass down. This is crazy.

[Courtney]

I.

[Guest Commentator]

It escalated very, very quickly.

[Courtney]

When Kyle was leaving the house last week and he walked outside, I had said, I do not think that Carl was diffusing the situation. Telling someone to calm the fuck down is not a way to get them to calm the fuck down. Telling someone you're gonna punch them in the fucking face, not a way to get them to calm down. I felt like Ben was really the only person at this point that had Kyle's back too, who clearly he feels attacked by every single person in this house. He has no idea who knows about this conversation with Sierra. Which made me sad too, because on watch what happens live, Carl was like, I did not know about that. And I kind of let my emotions get the of me here. Kyle's like, carl, I could go on. Everyone could suck my dick. Find another target. I'm sick of it. And Amanda walks. And they're like, are you okay? She's.

[Guest Commentator]

I'm fine.

[Courtney]

It's too much. And so then Kyle is talking to Ben and West on the driveway, and he's like, Carl has been talking behind my back. I've heard about it all summer long. I'm the bad guy. Like, this is how I feel. I forgot that Carl is 65 and more fragile than a china doll.

[Guest Commentator]

And Wes is like, okay, this is not about Carl. You are mad at Lindsay, and you kept looking at Amanda, but your shit with Amanda was coming out when other people were talking about it. But Lindsay is the one that you should be mad at. And that was kind of true.

[Courtney]

Yes and no, though. Because Kyle's like, actually, I think Lindsay's being the spokesperson for Amanda. But the way that Wes tried to, like, divert. It's all Lindsay's fault. Like, yes. Lindsay obviously escalated that and then was like, oh, now I need to refuses.

[Guest Commentator]

This is real. This is real. I meant to have a little freedom dinner fight, but not at this level. And she is feeling bad.

[Courtney]

By the way. She's sitting on a walker at this dinner. I don't know if you notice when the girls go from the she is sitting on an old person walker from the old person party because there weren't enough chairs for her to sit in. That's just a detail I think we

[Guest Commentator]

have to mention as well as the watermelon sitting on the. The front porch.

[Courtney]

Wes's foot is on it at one point. Then it's in the kitchen. Someone's rolling it. Like, they're gonna cut it open for slices of watermelon, which Jesse has on his plate. The next day when they're recapping it, I'm like, what is happening? Like, what?

[Guest Commentator]

But you can tell Lindsay is genuinely feeling bad. She's saying it to Amanda, and Amanda's like, don't feel bad. Don't feel bad. You were just asking him about a partnership. He should not be set off from that. This is ridiculous. He wants a partnership when it is convenient for him, but not when it's for me. And you aren't wrong. And that's why I sat there quietly. Of course you would sit there quietly and let people fight your battles. That was, like, tough to watch.

[Courtney]

I think the problem is, too, is it's like, okay, they have repeated patterns of behavior. Like, fundamentally, at the end of the day, they are a terrible match. But the way that they, like, get under the other person's skin is like, Amanda goes completely silent. Like, she gives him the silent treatment. She does not talk to him. And the way that he goes off is he, like, goes from 0 to 100, and he can't regulate his emotions. He even says that later. And so it's like they're fighting. It's like water and oil.

[Guest Commentator]

Does Amanda even know that Sierra told Kyle at the beach the suggestion of living apart for a month? Is Amanda aware of that?

[Courtney]

Yes. Lindsay's. When she's talking to Kyle, it's Kyle and Ben and Lindsay talking about it, and Kyle breaks down and he. It's also felt like this was a sound bite, but it sounds like at some point this did because he's covering his face and he's like, there's this conversation happening with Sierra and the separation. And Lindsay's like, oh, my gosh. Because Lindsay doesn't know about this. And so when Lindsay comes down to talk to Amanda after, she's like, I had a combo with Kyle and he has said the Sierra separation. So she knows about that conversation at that point. That has happened. Now, do I think that she might use this as part of her reunion strategy of being upset with Sierra? Like, you are the one who started this and you got involved in our marriage and you suggested this and I said he wouldn't go for it, but I didn't mean that I wanted it to be suggested to him because she has that interesting confessional.

[Guest Commentator]

The. In the. That's a new confessional. Yes.

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[Courtney]

Yes. Where she's like, Sierra says the things out loud that I have thoughts about. And so it sounds almost like she was, like, listening to Ciara. But is she going to use that and switch it up on Sierra and say, you got involved in my marriage?

[Guest Commentator]

I think you have a good point here. Yeah, I think that's a valid, valid point. I will say, though, when. When Kyle breaks down to Lindsay and he. He's crying, I felt for the guy. You could tell he was just like, this is my real life. Like, I am a mess. Which is just so funny that he said, carl's a mess. And then now we're coming to find out he was calling himself a mess, too.

[Courtney]

Hopeful people can be messes. Yeah, Clorox, get in there. Oh, my God.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, we're onto something. That's a good idea. But he's like, my life is in the shitter. The only thing I have right now is this DJ career. Like, my marriage is not gonna last. This. My company is coming to a close. I have to make the DJ career work because that is my source of income.

[Courtney]

Did you hear that clip that he was on Jason Tardick's podcast? And this clip is going around and he has a $55,000 loan payment a month. He basically has to make a hundred Thousand dollars a month to cancel out that payment. So that man needs to take these DJ kids. And I think that's like, Lindsay was also saying too in that combo, right? Was like, I wasn't trying to rattle you. It's this Vegas residency. And, like, Ben's like, it's not even a residency. Like, Ben's like, it's a management who's going to help him with all of this stuff. Like, I really liked Ben this episode. I thought he was such a good friend to be there for Kyle. And then I thought too, he's so mad at Amanda of how she treated Sabrina Bale. Because he's so mad about her saying that he wanted to sleep with her.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that's a good point too. No, but Kyle, like, talking to them and saying, you know, I just feel so, like, deserted and a bit, like, abandoned. And she's like, well, do you think Amanda might be feeling that way too? Like, you stay out late, she gets dms like she's feeling the same way. And he's like, well, guess what? We haven't had sex in seven years. There's been no attention, friendship, or partnership that will wear someone down. And I don't know what to do anymore, you guys. They have been married for four years. You're telling me three years before they got married, they haven't had sex what? Seven years? I don't. I don't believe it.

[Courtney]

You need to have sex with your partner. This is crazy to me. Do you think it's an exaggeration? I hope so. Not even on the wedding night.

[Guest Commentator]

Why would you get married if you weren't having sex? That feels strange. That feels very strange.

[Courtney]

Coughing up to Covid. I mean, the cheating thing. So I guess Kyle did have sex because he cheated, and then he proposed, and then they got married, and so he was having sex. We don't.

[Guest Commentator]

Whatever.

[Courtney]

I'm just. I'm kidding. But. But at the seven years thing, I was like, this is crazy because we just learned that it's been a little bit. Because Carl told Jesse that I don't think he knew it was seven years also. It's like this marriage was unfortunately so doomed. It's like, because we know in couples there because what the were they talking about in couples therapy after watching this episode? I do not understand. But we know that Amanda hasn't moved past the cheating stuff before they got married. It's all Kyle's issues were with the marriage itself. So it's like we have so many obstacles of why this marriage wasn't going to work, to hear him break down like this. I think even if we didn't know what we knew, that we would actually see Kyle's perspective. This episode, like, this is a man at his breaking point. He. And there may be truth to what he's saying. Totally, totally.

[Guest Commentator]

And Carl was like, you know, I love this guy, but he's crumbling. He is throwing away his relationship for what, a DJ gig? He doesn't even have his own music. That line.

[Courtney]

Like, they asked Ariana, watch what Happens live too. And she was like, well, I did hear him play the other day, like, at that Vulture party. She was really good. But then Carl, when you mentioned the music thing, I thought, you do need your own Carl. He has it coming out.

[Guest Commentator]

Wait. And then Bailey trying to make out with Carl after that. And Carl said he regretted that on Watch what happens live. He said, it would have been a such a great moment if I made out with her by the pool.

[Courtney]

She was, like, angry. Carl really got me turned on. Like, angry. He was tall. His hair was swept to the side. But I like to. She's gonna diffuse the situation by recommending to make out.

[Guest Commentator]

Meanwhile, Sierra, west, and Jesse are drinking tequila rocks on the front porch. Why were they on the front porch? Where else could they go?

[Courtney]

They've got Carl and people in the backyard. Kyle's having a breakdown in his room. The other people are in the kitchen. The front yard is the only safe space right now. I hate this scene, though. I. I just. I hate this scene because Sierra is really leaning into her friendship with Wes. The things. The Trace amigos. They're back. The threesome is back of Jesse, west, and Sierra. Except it really feels like it's like Sierra and West and then like, west and Jesse and then Jesse and Sierra, but not the three of them together. And I really. I was like, sierra, don't.

[Guest Commentator]

No, no, I know. I know. Even at the end of the night when she's in Jesse and West's room. And I just felt like she was staying too long, too long. And I was just like, get out of there.

[Courtney]

Get out to get on. Like, I'm glad that we are friendly again, but I'm like, we are blurring the lines from both sides too, because I think that once they made up of being best friends. We are best friends. Then another conversation had to be had. Let's take a break. And I want to tell you more about this.

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[Courtney]

Car selling without a catch. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up. These may apply. Okay then. There needed to be another conversation because we keep talking about. I've said like they weren't friends before There was a flirtation, so there's no friendship to go back to because that was blurred lines before. But it's like he's not saying, I just want to be friends, and she's saying, maybe there's room for more than friends. And neither of them are going to talk about that because Wes wants the audience on his side. He's glad that Sierra is not mad at him because that means, like, the portion of the audience won't be mad at him anymore, and he doesn't do confrontation well in general. And if she wants to hook up, he's open to it because he can be friends with her after hooking up well.

[Guest Commentator]

But I think that's why she kept on saying best friends, because best friends means, like, relationship partner in her eyes. And I think that's why she wasn't. It was. She always kept saying best friends, best friends, best friends versus just like, like, let's be friends again.

[Courtney]

That's her person. I know she loves him the most at the table. I know.

[Guest Commentator]

She leaned in so fast.

[Courtney]

Yeah. It just was like we went from, like, zero to a hundred. It's not like he was keeping his space from her either, you know, but it just felt like watching the three of them there, it was like, ugh. When Mia came out to see what they were doing and was going to hang out with them, Wes got up immediately and was like, oh, I'll go get you a chair. And I felt like that was west uncomfortable but doesn't want to say anything. And it's like, mia, sit here so that I can then grab a chair and sit further away.

[Guest Commentator]

I know. Do you think at the reunion, west is going to be like, we were just supposed to be friends, and I need those boundaries, and you didn't respect them. But then they make out next week.

[Courtney]

I think he's going to say something along the lines of, like, when I thought we were best friends, I thought we were best friends. And then it felt like the lines were being blurred, and I didn't know how to handle the situation because we had just decided we were going to be friends. And I think he's going to talk in a ton of circles.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And ultimately, it's like they needed another conversation because, you know, we get the clip from before, too, of, like, oh, yeah, Sabrina Bale has, like, made our wedding venue already. She's already booked that. We're doing these double dates. It's moving way too fast. But, like, Sierra said yes, and I don't want to, like, rock the boat there. And there's the whole audience perspective, too. But also, Sierra's hot, so he does want to make out with her, but he likes it because she was unavailable. And now that she's available, he's pulling back without telling her. He's pulling back. And so at the end of the day, it's like, no, Sierra, No. And everyone has just that one fucking guy. Everyone has that one guy that makes you a cuckoo.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. Yeah. And you see what you want to see.

[Courtney]

Exactly. And it's like, and if we didn't know what we knew now, we'd probably be rooting for this.

[Guest Commentator]

I know. So crazy. I can't tell you how bad I felt for Kyle in this episode. So let's talk about Kyle and Ben. They're in the closet.

[Courtney]

He's wearing a hat. Mary. True.

[Guest Commentator]

Kyle's like, I got blood on my favorite pants.

[Courtney]

When did he cut his finger open? Mary. He gashed it so hard. It was so much blood. I was like, when? At what point did he cut his finger open?

[Guest Commentator]

No idea. But something about Kyle wearing these blue boxers. And then with the mustache on top of it. I was giggling so hard, like, I could not take the man seriously. But I mean, he's like, and now my pants have blood on them. Like, this is just so hard. You know, I'm drowning. And Ben's just, like, hugging him. Ben had a great episode. And he's like, you should definitely have a chat with Carl.

[Courtney]

When Ben gave him that hug, Kyle was looking for that hug so badly. He even, like, takes his hat off. Like, no, like, like, get it? He needed human touch for someone to say, I see you. I understand you, but you are right. Because every time they kept showing one of the guys with these fucking mustaches, I was like, like, every. Like, even them fighting about at whatever the hell that they're fighting about at this point, I was like, these mustaches are really leveling up this fight right now.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And so at this point now, there is not cameras in the house. Production has left. Everything we're watching now is all, like, the caging Carl scene, the Carl and Kyle going in. It's all on the sky cameras.

[Courtney]

Oh, yeah, the live feed cams. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Which is, like, crazy to me.

[Courtney]

Well, I think that's because some of the cameras are outside. But I felt like Kyle just really needed that hug. Ben said, go have your conversation with Carl. Which is funny because I think guys can handle things so differently. He's like, you guys all said what you needed to say to each other. Like, go makeup. But Meanwhile, while Wes and the trio are outside drinking their hard alcohol and Wes comes into the house, he and Amanda bypass each other and this hug, embrace. Okay. I truly think that nothing was happening. And I just think this is really how west would hug someone in this situation right now. He gets to be the knight in shining armor for an unavailable woman.

[Guest Commentator]

This was the craziest, longest hug. The way the camera went in and out, zoomed in on it. He's holding her head, kissing her chin.

[Courtney]

Chic.

[Guest Commentator]

She's like, you pulling up the chair next to me. She starts crying. She says, thank you. I love you. And I just kept thinking about that watermelon on the porch.

[Courtney]

But just this embrace. This is for sure moment when Amanda was all in on West. I really don't think from his part, because it's she an unavailable woman, but I felt like this was the point where she was like, he is saving me from my marriage. Like, I am all eggs in one basket. This my man, my man, my man. This is how I should be treated. Like, babe, you went from a wife to a side piece. Mia's quote, not mine. Right then, KJ and Carl are talking. So KJ's in Carl's room, and he's like, I'm just checking on you. And. And Carl's starting to, like, have remorse. I feel like the adrenaline is slowing down in him where he's, like, reflecting now, and he's like, oh, you know, I don't really care. Like, I just want my friend to be okay. KJ's like, nobody's looking at you at the bad guy. And I would be so, so curious of the cast's perspective on this whole thing. And I think we'll learn at the reunion, obviously, about their relationship now. Kyle is the bad guy tonight.

[Guest Commentator]

Sure.

[Courtney]

I think, like, when you watch Jesse, Jesse is so defensive of Carl. I think Jesse really looks at Carl like a big brother. I don't know if you've ever kind of noticed their relationship, but, like, there are multiple times when Jesse is defending everyone but Kyle, he. I'm fast forward, but after Ky, Carl makeup, he's like, okay, well, now you need to go deal with Amanda Batula. At one point, he's in the front yard, and he's like, I'm not dealing with this guy. Walks back into the house. Jesse gets annoyed at Kyle very often, and I think he thinks Kyle is a problem.

[Guest Commentator]

I think the house does.

[Courtney]

Sure, sure.

[Guest Commentator]

I could. I can see that he leans towards Carl. He's. Jesse and me are similar. I get it.

[Courtney]

Okay.

[Guest Commentator]

Let's go to Carl and Kyle in the room. There's no camera person. I'll be Carl, obviously. They have a long hug, and Carl just starts with, you know, I love you. I'm sorry. I hate not being able to support you. I lost my shit. I made this situation worse. I was trying to calm you down. I'm not upset about the software thing, which, like, yes, you are. The reason why it escalated was. Cause I thought you threw a drink at me, but you really just threw a drink at the house. And, you know, I just want the best best for you. Okay.

[Courtney]

But he's. And Lindsay says this. She's like, but saying you to your wife is out of line. Like, that's, like, the repeated thing that they keep saying. It's like, you cannot be saying that. Lindsay says that, Carl says that the house is saying that again. And if these are things that are being said on camera, these are things that are happening on camera, what the hell is happening off camera?

[Guest Commentator]

Exactly what Mia said. Yeah.

[Courtney]

And so Kyle's like, you know, me too. I'm sorry. All I want to do is squash it. You needed to get it out. They start laughing. These two mustaches are giggling about this fight that they've just had. He's like, you know, I am taking bullets, and she was eating it up. He starts to break down again. Imagine feeling your wife or partner like, she never stands up for me. She loves when I leave, and she can't stand me when I come home. She doesn't ask me how it was. She doesn't ask me anything. It's like, it's beyond people's comprehension. She knows I'm going to Vegas for one night. And then he starts breaking down. And you can see Carl, too, like, having remorse about this as he's learning in real time more of the problems. Because everyone also thinks, too, because Kyle is so vocal with everything that he feels and, like, out of control vocal. But vocal is that you're just seeing everything from his perspective of being out of line. And as he starts to reveal more stuff, you can see, like, Carl realizing it is so much worse than what I thought. Because when Kyle tells Carl about Sierra saying about the separation, Carl, you could see, like, his. His heart drop into his stomach.

[Guest Commentator]

It's so sad. He married them. Like, he loves them both. And this is clearly the breaking point for their relationship. And I think the house realizes, like, so the next move is they are separating. And Kyle is learning that the same time as everyone else. And he's devastated where, like, Amanda's like, this is great. This is my out. And she needed this to happen to get out, because she didn't have the guts to do it herself.

[Courtney]

Well, I mean, that's what Kyle says in the closet. I know his monologue out loud. It's like that man is always telling us what he thinks. But Carl and Kyle, they end up making up. They hug. Kyle's like, I feel like my life is falling apart. They. They don't even know what they've said to each other because all Kyle was. Yeah, all Kyle was worried about was that his car might be dented from their fight.

[Guest Commentator]

He's like, them talking about the car after. I love that they're going to be able to move on from this. And, like, they squash the beef. And boys are so different because they can say what they want to say, get over it and move on. Like, if I had any type of fight, like, this friendship over. Yeah, like, absolutely.

[Courtney]

And I'd be rallying the troops against you.

[Guest Commentator]

It's just girls are so different. Like, I would never be able to move forward from this.

[Courtney]

No, like, this is great. You called me Vagisil. Like, if you don't get me a brand sponsorship deal with Vagisil, this is over. On. Watch what happens live too. They ask, you know, Carl, what did you think about watching the episode? And Carl's like, I was really upset. Like, I was pacing in my house back and forth. Because we do remember. They haven't even seen. Seen this.

[Guest Commentator]

I know, I know.

[Courtney]

They lived it, obviously, but neither of them even remember because the adrenaline was through the roof that they really black out rage, yelling at each other.

[Guest Commentator]

I know. I don't know if I'd even, like, watch this back if I was them. I just don't know if I'd want to.

[Courtney]

I think they have, like. I agree. And in normal circumstances, maybe I wouldn't going into the reunion, but because of what all has happened, I'm like, I, like, need to see everything. Because Carl was using Amanda as the front of why he was going after Kyle, but obviously that's his eating chicken salad, so he had to, like, take everything out. And I thought it was interesting, too, when Kyle was like, we literally talked about this in fall of 2024, why I can't invest. And then knowing the hundred thousand dollars, like, he really couldn't invest. And I think that's why, at the end of the day, he said, let me give you my expertise by being on the board. Let me do what I can for free.

[Guest Commentator]

You guys. How crazy Is it that we are defending Kyle Cook? It's insane. It's insane. Like, if this scandal hadn't happened, would we be defending him?

[Courtney]

I think so in this episode. Not defending, but I think I would be really much more understanding to what's going on of watching his life crash and burn on film. Learning in real time his marriage is over. I don't think that they were separated before the season. Maybe they had talked about we need space. I think Kyle is learning all of this in real time. Like, it is over, over. I thought maybe it wasn't like, because if we talk about his soliloquy in the closet, I think she purposely roots

[Guest Commentator]

for everyone against me. She doesn't want a single thing to do with me and she's too scared

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can't do anything herself. That's when I'm starting to think I cannot do this anymore.

[Courtney]

Is he wrong?

[Guest Commentator]

I, like, want very specific details about him saying all the things that Amanda couldn't do.

[Courtney]

I think back to just earlier this season when he was talking about the fact that, like, their house is a mess, she won't let him hire cleaners, but nothing's being clean. I've seen a lot of theories go around too. Is like Amanda's contribution to the marriage is that she puts up with Kyle. No, it's kind of like Kyle does all these things and I just accept it and I allow it. And then Kyle is the provider. Kyle has to go work. I saw something that was that Kyle would answer all the emails for her. So I'm like, did Kyle help her get that bathing suit line? Is it kind of like, oh, you want to do a bathing suit line? Great. That's another project I have to manage myself now.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh.

[Courtney]

Thinking about all these, how involved that he has to be. He's the provider. He's the one running point on everything. Whether she's quote, unquote lazy.

[Guest Commentator]

But, but, but also, let's also remember lover boy is his baby, his company. So. And she has her own funds. Like she's getting paid a lot of money to be on summer house. I want to differentiate. Like, he isn't financially completely sure. Ordering her.

[Courtney]

No, sorry, I meant the provider in. In the, in the sense of taking care of everything, not necessarily paying because like you said, she has a salary. But even think about with Sierra's got that. And Amanda said, and wow, I can't move to New Jersey. As if Kyle needs to buy her the house.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes, yes.

[Courtney]

It's just thinking about these things. About how reliant she is on Kyle for her life to work. A lot of all the details he takes care of.

[Guest Commentator]

Sure. No, no, I, I, I agree with you. I agree.

[Courtney]

But I do agree, like would we be looking at, would we be defending Kyle? I don't know how level of defense, but I would understand.

[Guest Commentator]

It's just wild because we started this season like this is the worst season ever. Before this scandal, he was just doing apology post after apology post after apology post and I think today online people couldn't be nicer to him, happier for him.

[Courtney]

Did an apology post yesterday too. By the way, he said, this is my worst episode ever. And I'm like, so sorry. And all of us are like, don't be sorry, little Kyle.

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[Courtney]

Yeah, Kyle's a mess.

[Guest Commentator]

This is how one thing can change so many things, truly.

[Courtney]

And like the court of public opinion, how crazily that's changed. Let's take a break and come back with Mia, Amanda and Sierra in bed.

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[Guest Commentator]

This was so hard to watch. I was like, oh my God. Sad victim girl. Literally saying, don't take pity on me. Calling herself sad victim girl. It was so tough. And she's like. And the worst part was because she

[Courtney]

is or tough because you felt bad for her.

[Guest Commentator]

I didn't feel an ounce of sadness for her. It was crazy. I know, I know. And she's like. The worst part was when he said, fuck you. No shit.

[Courtney]

Like.

[Guest Commentator]

And she's like, now I just. I really need to put myself in somebody else's shoes. I mean, she is Delulu.

[Courtney]

Okay? Truly though her self esteem is in the gutter. Kyle says these things. Who knows what else he's saying? She does not have a good perspective of herself in general. Like, if you think back to that old Navy talk with Paige and I wish you could see yourself the way I see you. Like, she has had depression, she's battled with. Her self esteem is so low. And I do think in her mind because she puts up with Kyle, that she thinks she deserves these situations. But the way that she shuts down as her armor does not help when you can't talk. And Sia, Sierra and Mia are really going for bat to bat for her when Kyle comes in.

[Guest Commentator]

That you guys could. Okay, could you imagine though, you just got in this like crazy fight with your husband and then your two friends are sitting right next to you in the bed and you're gonna have this private conversation in front of them. It's wild.

[Courtney]

And not only that, you're under their covers. You don't sleep in that bed. Get out. Get out. I could never survive the summer house because. What do you mean? Someone who doesn't regularly stay in my bed is getting under my covers. But not only that, Kyle comes in, Mia is looking the other way. Sierra is like touching her hair, like putting behind her ears, like looking down, like, what the. It's like, Amanda, get out of the bed.

[Guest Commentator]

I literally go have a conversation with your husband without the Girls, come on.

[Courtney]

I'd never wanted to be a bedbug less in my life.

[Guest Commentator]

Right? Right.

[Courtney]

Get out of my room. This is so uncomfortable. And then Kyla goes on this, like, rambling because he's like, well, you had this smug look on your face. I'm sorry I said what I said. But, like, I was so upset with seeing you smile and I was excited and I wanted your approval about the DJ stuff and, like, to sign it with you. And then that conversation went sideways, but he's like a little puppy dog, like, looking on the ground, shuffling his feet like, oh, shucks. Like, I don't know how to do this.

[Guest Commentator]

And once again, this is the live camera, you guys. This is not the camera crew. And Amanda's like, it's not about the DJ stuff.

[Courtney]

And Kyle's, I don't even know what it is about anymore.

[Guest Commentator]

She's just like, I need some time. And then to come to find out that he went out after this, I'm like, this is nuts.

[Courtney]

Like, by the way, it's like, it's just like a long time since we've been on the same team. It wears me down and it hurts. And then when she's like, where's the apology? Like, so it was in there. He did say, I'm sorry for what I said. But he also then said a lot of shit afterwards too.

[Guest Commentator]

Right? I, I, I'll give her missing the apology part because then he goes out like, I am sorry if that happened to me and you left the house after this. Are you feeling kidding me? I would have been livid.

[Courtney]

He did think she was going out with the group. So once he went out, he did have a few drinks and then took the, the earlier uber home. But when he was like, when he decided to go out, I was like, this house is insane. The fact that we can compartmentalize everything that's just happened and it's like 11:30 at night. Call it a night, people. The day is over. The night is over. You guys are still going out.

[Guest Commentator]

Wes is like, I, like, kind of look like a lesbian, but I'm into it. I think it works

[Courtney]

okay. But then Amanda and Kyle do start to talk because she's not gonna go out. Lindsay's not going out. The rest of the house, of course, is going out. And Amanda's like, so you don't want to say anything? Because I think she's so pissed he's going out, but also, like, doesn't want him home because I think it also goes for her too if he stays at home, then I have to deal with him. The problem is, the next time you guys talk, you do have to address this separation comment. You have to discuss it, because you can't pretend it wasn't said. Kyle knows, and he knows that's how you feel.

[Guest Commentator]

But she was also ready to fight here. Notice with, like, Mia and Sierra, she's kind of calm in the bed, and then this is also live. Live cameras. And she's just like, you're not gonna say anything. Like, you were just talking about yourself the whole time, you know? And then he's. He's like, well, sorry for ruining the

[Courtney]

dinner in the night.

[Guest Commentator]

She's like, that's not what you're supposed to be sorry for, you know? So she starts him, and at this point, he is done. He's like, well, that's why I think

[Courtney]

she wants him to leave the house. And then she wants to use it against him in a way. I think this is just in general. And she. He's like, sorry, I lost my. I have been at a breaking point all. And if I'm hurt, I don't want to be stuck in the house with him either. I want him to leave at this point. Then could I use it for a point for mean tomorrow? Sure. But I don't want him here because then I do have to confront this situation and have to confront it on cameras, and I don't want to.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Courtney]

And she's like, you don't express yourself at all unless you're fuming. He's like, well, that's not true, but. Okay, let's go out to common ground East. Like, does he have a DJ gig this night? I don't know.

[Guest Commentator]

I thought it was so crazy. They all went out.

[Courtney]

I know.

[Guest Commentator]

I was exhausted after all of this, truly.

[Courtney]

But then we come back, and then I'm like, oh, my God. I totally forget that we have to focus on west and Sierra, too.

[Guest Commentator]

Like.

[Courtney]

Like, dear dog, just go to bed, Sierra. Don't let him have any control over you. He's for the streets. He's for Jeff Vessler.

[Guest Commentator]

But he was definitely not trying to have her sleep in that bed. He was not pushing that. Jesse was trying to push that. He's like, any combination. Like, me and Wes can sleep in a bed, and you can sleep in the other bed. And I think if west had said, like, Sierra, you should sleep in my bed, she would have.

[Courtney]

Okay, but let's talk about when they come home and they're in the kitchen where Kyle is standing there in his shirt and underwear. In the corner. And it's like, what's happening? And they are all snacking. And west and Sierra, though, are in the corner. And this is where he wants to have his flirtation is, like, in public with other people. And then he doesn't want it to go to the bedroom. Don't get me wrong. Wes would hook up with Sierra, but when Kyle, west, and Jesse are staying there, they ask Kyle, kyle, where are you going to sleep tonight? And he's like, in my bed. Why wouldn't I? And then Kyle says to west, imagine if Jesse said, I was trying to sleep with your wife.

[Guest Commentator]

You guys, they definitely re edited that part. That was a clip they wanted in.

[Courtney]

Yeah, I was like, you sneaky little editors. You thought you're gonna get that past us. We saw it. We saw it. And then, like, Kyle gets in bed, and he, like, says sorry and, like, kisses Amanda, and there's a pillow in between him. And I keep thinking neither of them have ever thought to go sleep in a different bed.

[Guest Commentator]

I felt like he was very remorseful in this moment. Like, he had a couple drinks, then he had to come back, confront the situation. He's like, I'm sorry for going out. This is all drunk. You know, the second I went out, I was like, I should go back. I didn't mean to leave you alone. And then, like, the next morning, he's trying to cuddle with her. It's tough to watch.

[Courtney]

Well, and this fight, I think at this point, too, is like. Like, you guys are done now. Unfortunately, it has hit a point that. Again, what are you talking about? At couples therapy, and Mia and Sierra talk about this later, and they say, like, I like you two together. Not that much. Like, you guys are ruining each other's lives. You're. Neither of you are happy. I want both of you to be happy. As you said before, Mia says, if you're saying this on camera, what are you doing behind closed doors? Like, this is. Is too much and the house is too involved now.

[Guest Commentator]

Completely. Completely. Let's talk about Jesse and Wes the next morning.

[Courtney]

Where is this stupid hat from? Is West's head too big or is this hat too small?

[Guest Commentator]

I think he just didn't fully put it on his head. I. This is also from the grandpa party.

[Courtney]

I know. Well. Or when Jesse went golfing because he wore the same outfit both times.

[Guest Commentator]

Oh, like that little paperboy hat when

[Courtney]

Wes was like, so did anything happen last night? Oh, well, Carl and Kyle almost murdered each other. Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Guest Commentator]

And then I thought it was Interesting that Wes tells Jesse about talking to Sierra, about how he knew they would never hook up, and they kind of giggle about it. And Jesse's like, well, I'm really sorry about that whole situation. I was pretty flippant about it. And they commends about this.

[Courtney]

Well, he said, I should have asked if there were feelings still involved. Wes never confirms, like, the feelings. He actually changes the subject and is like, I wonder how Amanda's doing.

[Guest Commentator]

I know, I know.

[Courtney]

And that to me was like, I don't necessarily want Sierra, but nobody else can have her either. That's where I was going. Because every time we keep talking about Sierra and west to west, he like diverts the attention to something else or he kind of goes silent and lets everybody else fill in the silence for him.

[Guest Commentator]

It was very interesting when Lindsay came in and brought them food. And she's like, it's really hard to hate you. And it's so true. It's. He's gonna be fine after this, I have a feeling.

[Courtney]

But Lindsay said, like, how do you feel about the L word? I thought it was crazy that she wasn't talking about Mia or Amanda. And she says, you. And he has this confessional where he's like, well, here and I get along so well. And we had to pretend we didn't. Like. Now I understand it was protection and a wall, but I was avoiding a relationship. And it's a lot to process. And it's confusing because he doesn't want to say that's what she wants. And I don't want any part of that because the audience is going to like me again.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, he. You can tell he just never wanted to have anything more than a friendship with Sierra. And then the problem is, is next week they make out and then he's giving big signals, so. And she wants to be best friends and in a relationship with him. They were not on the same page.

[Courtney]

Yeah. So they have a ski party, which I see a lot of people posting about. Can we get Winter House back? Because it's like a winter themed party and Sierra is hosting this party. But I thought there were two things that happened at this party. The first one was Wes complimenting Dara, who's now also unavailable.

[Guest Commentator]

The hottest outfit this house has seen in a long time.

[Courtney]

She did look so good, though. She's so pretty. I thought she looked fantastic. She's like, that's the nicest thing you ever said. Dap me up, bro. But the second thing was Jesse and Sierra sitting on the loungers reflecting on the summer and Jesse trying to warn Sierra about the nature of her relationship with West.

[Guest Commentator]

I know. Like, and she just was not getting it at all. You know, it's.

[Courtney]

It was really tough to listen to because he's like, so my rose of this is that, like, the three of us are back together as friends. And then my thorn was when you were upset with me, and I'm like, actually, I kind of feel like Jesse and Sierra would be the better couple. And then when Jesse and Bailey were flirting about looking like they were ski porn, I was like, they're really cute together, but we know he's with GoPro Girl now. But when Jesse was like, so, is there more? What's going on? I just was like, like, oh, God. Only because it's like it was going to crash and burn regardless of Amanda. Yes.

[Guest Commentator]

Completely. Completely. Yeah, Al. Although, I mean, they were hanging out

[Courtney]

at the Super Bowl. I know, but she wants a relationship. She has told us, like, I want to be with my best friend. I want a relationship where we are besties. I want that. And she was, like, casually letting him in. And she even makes a confessional, too, where she talks about, like, are we friends? And then the summer's going to be over and we're not the whiplash. And I think it would require a lot of effort from her to have the friendship with him. I think west is a friend to all, a relationship to none, except for potentially Montana girl. But, like, I think people text west, what are we doing today? And he's like, he's open. What do you want to do? You want to go to 82 Stanton? Let's go. Like, oh, there's a football game on. I'm going to go do this. Like, he's the guy you called. Have a good time with.

[Guest Commentator]

Completely. You had a good time in New York with him?

[Courtney]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator]

Not that kind of time. Yeah.

[Courtney]

Oh, guys, my legs are quite closed.

[Guest Commentator]

No, but I mean, he. He met up with you at a bar in New York City his first season and was a blast.

[Courtney]

He's super fun. Super fun. But you're watching this dynamic, and I think, too, Jesse is like, why this guy? I'm obviously saying this based on vibes. I don't think Jesse loves West. I think he's friends with west, but I think he sees right west, and I think he's like, why did I get all this when he does the exact same thing? Even worse, my friend west is for the streets. He's northeast, south, and west. And yet Jesse Solomon gets. Gets the shittier end of the stick.

[Guest Commentator]

I. I just. I came into this season rooting for Amanda. Kyle was the bad guy this episode. I was crying for him. I felt awful for the guy. You know what I mean? I was like, o, we got pity party Amanda. You know, it's just what we know now. And then. Yeah. I was obsessed with Wes and now look at it.

[Courtney]

You know, it's just how the turntables.

[Guest Commentator]

But nothing has changed with my Carlo. Carlos. Carlos.

[Courtney]

That's your. That's your personal pet name with him.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Courtney]

Yeah. This episode was a. Was a tough watch that I had to watch it multiple times. I. At the end of the day it is. They're fundamentally not a match. But it is sad to watch it in real time time happen and see the ending of it. And then you see the preview for next week and it's like we're dealing with Kyle and Amanda and we were dealing with Sierra and Wes. And the way that these relationships are all intersecting now is insane.

[Guest Commentator]

Insane.

[Courtney]

Seeing them kiss next week, I felt ill. I don't know these people. I was ill about it. I posted a reel. People like, where's the trigger warning? Like, is this AI? Say it's AI because. Because when she tells Jesse we haven't had a boundary conversation. Need to have that combo where at the end of the day it should have been we are friends and that's it. And we need to put that conversation and that boundary there. But we didn't. We left the door open to see whatever and now it's like another conversation. It's like that boundary combo's not gonna happen and not so much that you guys are kissing next week.

[Guest Commentator]

Right. I just cannot believe we have the finale next week. Then it's gonna go into. In the city. Who's gonna be on watch what happens live? Maybe Lindsay.

[Courtney]

I'm think, well, she was just on it two weeks ago, I think. Kyle.

[Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Courtney]

I. I would love Kyle and Sierra to be together. I think that would be really good. But I'm also like, I need them for the reunion as well. So if they want to have it multiple times. It sounds like from the preview too is Kyle and Amanda are sitting on that stoop of the house closing out the summer. She's gonna say I need me time and is she actually going to drive herself back to the city? And that's how we go into the next. Like that to me is like Kyle and Amanda are not leaving the house together. And that's how we're driving into. In the city to kick it off.

[Guest Commentator]

I guess we'll find out.

[Courtney]

I can't believe it's over. It's like we still have another episode. This weekend is too long, but okay.

[Guest Commentator]

Thank God we have the reunion. And thank God we have in the city because it won't feel like such a big separation.

[Courtney]

I need the reunion today. This was crazy.

[Guest Commentator]

Crazy. Are you gonna watch it again? For the fourth time.

[Courtney]

I don't think my heart can handle it, but I'll scour the Internet. I'll scour the Internet for everyone else's opinions.

[Guest Commentator]

Sounds good. Sounds good.

[Courtney]

I could keep going, but I'm gonna cut myself off. Okay. Okay.

[Guest Commentator]

We will be back. As always. Have a great day everybody. Bye.

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