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Podcast Host
In 6.2teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
Tamara Judge
Okay, here we are back for another episode of Flashback, which I just want to entitle. I just want to title all of these episodes. When does Tamra get here next?
Podcast Host
Next season?
Tamara Judge
I can't.
Podcast Host
We're almost through. We're on what Episode 7 and 8. So almost there.
Tamara Judge
I mean, this is riveting. The fact that the synopsis from this episode is Cara and Colton get ready for school by purchasing new clothes. That is in the synopsis of the episode. Joe let Slade know she's moving to Los Angeles. I'm like, didn't she let him? Didn't they break up four episodes ago? What is happening?
Podcast Host
I know, I don't understand. Jojo the housewife. Why do you keep going?
Tamara Judge
Like, I don't get it. And then Tammy begins to date again and then the women visit an astrologer without Joe. I mean, $700 shopping for back to school. Right. I mean, at this. At this day and age, it's 700 for a parachute.
Podcast Host
Isn't it crazy how much the kids were on the show? They were a huge part of the show.
Tamara Judge
The fact that they're filming the kids fully alone.
Podcast Host
Like I told you, they wanted to do a spin off of just the kids, you know, and they're just now season two, episode seven getting into where they have the girls go to lunch together and do things together.
Tamara Judge
Well then Joe telling that she's moving in with JJ on Friday. Slade said he's supposed to be her boyfriend and she doesn't even bother to tell him.
Podcast Host
I. Joe is so done with Slade, but he's doing anything and everything to try to hold on to her orange.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, like also she's like, I don't want your two cents on what I'm doing, but if you'd like to pay my rent, go ahead and. Yeah, do it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
She's like doesn't even want to show him her place because she doesn't want him to be able to find her there. I'm assuming because this was prior to find my phone. Because they all have sidekicks.
Podcast Host
I can't.
Tamara Judge
Oh, and also, I don't need to know that she has pinky pinky stinkies. I don't need to know.
Podcast Host
And it. They. I'm. I'm sorry, Joe. I love you, but you guys were acting so bad. It was such bad acting.
Tamara Judge
It was.
Podcast Host
Oh, don't get rid of my stinky pinkies. Don't get my stinky pinky.
Tamara Judge
Then Ashley calls Lori because the water in her townhouse isn't working. I love that Lori is always teaching Ash Ashley how to do things, but then doesn't do the things herself. Like she's like, oh, shoot, I forgot.
Podcast Host
I forgot. Well, let's not forget it was just one episode ago or one season ago that Lori was out in front of a club handing out tickets to come in and see a band.
Tamara Judge
Is this so old that there wasn't even auto pay then?
Podcast Host
Yeah, no, I like you still had.
Tamara Judge
To mail in checks.
Podcast Host
Yep.
Tamara Judge
This is a lot for sure, Pam. The fact that you come on one year from today.
Podcast Host
I know.
Tamara Judge
Then Joe shows her plate her new place in la. Slade is not impressed by her apartment. Slade points out the dangerous things, blah, blah. But then we also. I'm just gonna flash forward to where then Joe is with JJ talking about the apartment. I don't think that relationship's gonna last either. They couldn't even agree on Where Joe.
Podcast Host
She didn't even know where to put the groceries. She's putting them where the plates go. She's like, no, this is a pantry. Can kind of tell that Joe's been taken care of, I think most of her life.
Tamara Judge
Yeah. I. I don't. I wonder how I want to know. Let's. Can you hopefully. How long. Can you ask Joe how long she lived with jj? I need to know. I know it doesn't matter my life in any way, but I need to know.
Podcast Host
I mean, Slade is looking for any reason to hate the apartment. This is in Kodo. This is.
Tamara Judge
Oh, and then of course, they like, show, like, whatever. I think it's like Robertson.
Podcast Host
Well, do you know that Joe and Slade got a spin off date my ex.
Tamara Judge
No. It went to air or it was a.
Podcast Host
It went to air and it was a one season wonder. I believe a guy for Joe. I mean, they were big talent. They're big talent. 16 years ago.
Tamara Judge
Oh, my God. Also, that is so weird.
Podcast Host
The Bravo's bachelor date.
Tamara Judge
My ex. I don't know about that. I don't know. Like, I guess.
Podcast Host
But they didn't have the energy or chemistry to do a show. I don't know what Rob, but did.
Tamara Judge
They ever, like, were they ever really a couple? Like, I don't know that I've ever seen them other than when she, like, had her boa and was doing the thing.
Podcast Host
Like, I don't even put that in.
Tamara Judge
My head, but I don't think I've ever seen them, like, kiss. They're just, like, bickering.
Podcast Host
I'm surprised that Slay didn't try to date Tammy. Yeah.
Tamara Judge
I mean, I know it's gonna go.
Podcast Host
Through the rotation there, but I'm surprised.
Tamara Judge
Why Tammy didn't just date Duff. Like, why are we going? We always had the blind date. That was terrible.
Podcast Host
It was terrible.
Tamara Judge
And the friends coming was even more terrible.
Podcast Host
I know.
Tamara Judge
I. I didn't like it.
Podcast Host
You know, Tammy didn't feel a connection. So. Mark, the doctor, we're very sorry, but it's a hard pass.
Tamara Judge
But I also like Mark. This is just an FYI to anybody listening. That's single. One thing that you don't want to say on a first date is that you never put out ever.
Podcast Host
I think she was like, he's like, it takes four. What did he say? Something like, it takes four dates for me to put out. But hold on.
Tamara Judge
Duff date Shannon in season 14?
Podcast Host
Yep.
Tamara Judge
I like DU. What happened?
Podcast Host
Duff helped me about, I don't know, seven years ago. Remodel our backyard, our sidey yard or something like that?
Tamara Judge
No. Why? What h. Not about. Where is he now? What happened with him and Shannon?
Podcast Host
It just didn't work out.
Tamara Judge
But is he.
Podcast Host
Do we see him take that train? Couldn't take that train.
Tamara Judge
He couldn't do it. Then we're back to Lori stops by Ashley's townhouse.
Podcast Host
There's everywhere that I did not need to see that. I don't need to see it everywhere. Like. But then Lori's daughter. It was like the cat is probably dead in the bedroom.
Tamara Judge
I can't. Then Lori meets Vicki also, you know, they're coming over to film clean the up, literally and physically. Then Lori meets Vicki for lunch to ask for parental advice. Vicki says Ashley and Michael both don't have the motivation to be successful. Lori asks if she's a bad mom to kick her out or sell the townhouse. Vicki says Ashley still needs her and isn't mature enough to be on her own. I don't know that that was the.
Podcast Host
World'S best advice, but yeah, I'm surprised that Vicki said that Michael and Ashley, her own child doesn't have the motivation to be successful.
Tamara Judge
Do you wish that housewives still did? Like the fly confessionals? Like on the fly? Yeah.
Podcast Host
Off the fly. On the fly. On the fly or off the fly? Yeah. I don't know. No, I think the whole format has changed for the better. Yeah. Just take you over to the side and start talking about what just happened. I mean, you remember quicker. Yeah. I mean, you don't forget everything that happened.
Tamara Judge
But then this pivotal portion. Gina hires a dog trainer to help manage her dogs. One of their dogs still isn't house trained. Matt doesn't like any of the dogs and he talks about how Gina killed his dog.
Podcast Host
He's such a prize, isn't he?
Tamara Judge
He is a real gem. But they really don't like each other anymore.
Podcast Host
No, they're done. No, no, no.
Tamara Judge
Then today is Joe's last day. Living in Coto and Joe and Slade to each take a Jace Smiley license plate so they can. It's like a friendship plate. Should we get twats plates?
Podcast Host
Oh, yeah.
Tamara Judge
Vanity plates.
Podcast Host
Yes. Don't get me started on personalized plates. I so stupid.
Tamara Judge
They really bother me.
Podcast Host
But you know that number one and twat number two.
Tamara Judge
Who's gonna be one though?
Podcast Host
You don't even drive. Do you even have a car?
Tamara Judge
I have a car, but I don't drive.
Podcast Host
But we know who's gonna be twat one. We know that's not even a Question. Yes, that would be you, Teddy.
Tamara Judge
But guess what? When I was younger, growing up, I had a yellow gremlin that was my first car. And my mom. I don't know if it was my mom or, like, the guy that, like, our handyman guy thought it'd be funny to put a vanity plate on the car and it said the Grimster. Do you want to know how that was? Suicide. That is. The Grimster was my vanity plate on my yellow, like, you know, the Wayne's World car. That was my first car.
Podcast Host
Oh, my God. That's right up there with a Hugo.
Tamara Judge
Oh. Then Vicki has the ladies over for an astrology party where we find out a bunch of information we already knew.
Podcast Host
I mean, the information is, like, so basic. You are going to have a wonderful day.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Podcast Host
You have somebody in your life that's not treating you nicely. Stay away from them. It.
Tamara Judge
She's like, it's actually warm out today. Like, stop.
Podcast Host
How about when Brad tells Vicki that her chart is very rare and she will always have energy? She's like, oh, it's not my fault. It's not my fault.
Tamara Judge
It's not, guys.
Podcast Host
It's not my fault.
Tamara Judge
Her overall purpose to be a leader and her career. She's happy. She's not a freak. Her words, not mine. Yeah, that was episode seven. The next episode. Riveting Birthday Sex is the name of the episode. Joe drops a bomb on slate. Is she ready for the consequences? Laurie discovers that daughter Ashley has trashed her townhouse and seeks advice from George on how to handle it. The confusing part about that synopsis is it sounds exactly like the last episode.
Podcast Host
It did. I was gonna say, didn't we just. Didn't we? Yeah, but you gotta love when Vicki goes and visits Michael at college. Now, this is what I was trying to watch very carefully and understand, because you can't just film anywhere. You. A lot of places you have to have permits.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Podcast Host
So didn't Michael. I mean, either is the best actor ever or he had no idea.
Tamara Judge
Could they have just reached out to whoever owned the apartment and gotten clearance? I mean, but also, I. Why would.
Podcast Host
Maybe Michael thought he was just going to film with his friends. Maybe that's why they were all hyped and everything. Like in Game Day, because they were all dressed up.
Tamara Judge
And my little tiny baby heart even felt sad during that.
Podcast Host
Oh, my God.
Tamara Judge
I know. I had a feeling, like. But this is the Vicki that I love to watch unhinged in a fun way. It's like. It's good tv.
Podcast Host
It was good but why? I never noticed this. I don't think they do it anymore. But in the opening credits, it says, 7 million families live in gated communities. Yeah. Why?
Tamara Judge
Doesn't need to tell us. Is this an episode of Cops?
Podcast Host
I know. I mean, Michael was not having a get it together, get it together. He'd tell her, she'd be crying. And Vicki's like, stand up and give me a hug. Michael's like, no. I mean, he was a dick to his mom.
Tamara Judge
But why did she keep asking when she already knew the answer?
Podcast Host
She just wants to be loved, man.
Tamara Judge
I know, but I think it's something.
Podcast Host
That she struggles with her whole life. I think she feels like she was never loved. And I don't think her kids helped her out any.
Tamara Judge
Well, clearly. But, like, at least Michael's girlfriend was nice to her. But then she even gave up.
Podcast Host
I remember Lauren, pull it together.
Tamara Judge
Get. And she's in the shower crying.
Podcast Host
I know.
Tamara Judge
Poor thing. It's funny. Then Gina, we hear about when she was 27 and she was a Playboy centerfold and she's doing a Playboy serious interview. Gina says she was rare to be in the magazine because she's brunette and had a small chest. Back then. Gina says she dated Hef's best friend and that's why she got the job. I have a question. Did Playboy, like, produce this season of Real Housewives Orange County? I've been the both season. It's mentioned so much. They went to all the Playboy parts.
Podcast Host
News, that was the big star of the show, Gina Keough, right there. She's the only one that had anything ever to do with, you know, entertainment. So they are gonna just milk that Playboy. And obviously she got them connections to.
Tamara Judge
Playboy and that's how they went to the parties.
Podcast Host
Yep.
Tamara Judge
Oh, well, then Vicki only wants to be accepted and liked by Michael and his girlfriend. And then she does a keg stand, which is my favorite form of Vicki.
Podcast Host
But do you remember now, we recreated that last season when she came into Jen's party with the bucket.
Tamara Judge
Oh, that's what you guys were doing.
Podcast Host
Where's the party at? And then she did a keg stand. So we recreated that.
Tamara Judge
It's all coming around again. I get it, I get it. Then Joe and Slade meet with the music producer. I love how he gives tips, but they're not taking it. Slade's like, no, I think she did great. I think she's amazing talent. He's like, this needs a little work. And he's like, actually, she's incredible. For the first.
Podcast Host
Incredible. Just like trying to make money off of every woman he dates is comical.
Tamara Judge
That's. It's his motto.
Podcast Host
How about everyone dancing around the conference table to that horrible monotone song?
Tamara Judge
I don't hate the song, but I did hate.
Podcast Host
Well, the one guy's like, it needs little highs and lows. It needs a little.
Tamara Judge
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And they're like, nope, it's fine the way it is.
Tamara Judge
No. They're like, no, we're actually not going to take your advice. We're just going to release this as is because she can't hit the high notes or whatever.
Podcast Host
I think you should move to Orange county and we can start a little club called pop group OC Angels.
Tamara Judge
What song? We still have to do our cover band. We haven't even done it. Of all the housewife cover songs we need. Can we. I guess you can't reach out to Slade to ask if he'll help us find a producer.
Podcast Host
Yeah, no, I'm good.
Tamara Judge
I don't know how I would really broach that with my dad. Hey, Dad, I want to cover a bunch of terrible songs with my friend Tamara. Neither of us can sing, but we were just.
Podcast Host
Can you sing them for us?
Tamara Judge
Then we get into Lou starting a program called the OC Angels. Oh, like our band?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Tamara Judge
That's why you were saying it.
Podcast Host
Yeah. Oh, she's a quick one. She's a quick one.
Tamara Judge
My. That's why I got a little confused. Then Lou hired Ashley to travel and be a spokesmodel for the energy drink. Lou wants to create a positive message to kids, so then he invites them all there to fight in the dressing room. I don't get it.
Podcast Host
So he hires Lindsay, but not Megan, because Megan smokes and has tattoos. And of course, they do a flashback of Lindsay puffing on a Sig.
Tamara Judge
But also. I'm sorry. Lou has a lot of nerve to comment on somebody's looks.
Podcast Host
I know. And they have to be fit. He said they have to be fit. And it's like, okay, well, it's an.
Tamara Judge
Episode of photo shoots. Because then we have Slade set up a photo shoot for Joe's head shots, which I'm like, why? She's a young girl. Why is she in this, like, formal.
Podcast Host
I know.
Tamara Judge
Bridal dress? I. I can't. All of it. It was.
Podcast Host
If Slade would concentrate on himself as much as he does on the girls that he dates, trying to make them money, he probably would be successful.
Tamara Judge
But what about Joe Goes, that's a lot of boob. And then two minutes, two minutes later, she's like, Yay. Naked photos. My favorite.
Podcast Host
I know. Oh, that little. Oh, naked photos. Yay.
Tamara Judge
Yay, Joe.
Podcast Host
You were annoying back then, Joe.
Tamara Judge
Sorry, Bugs. Then Tammy and Duff meet up to talk. Deaf questions. What Tammy could find out there that they didn't already have? Tammy says she knows what she wants. You know what, Duff? I'm gonna. She wants money.
Podcast Host
She wants somebody with money.
Tamara Judge
She wants someone. Did she find someone with money?
Podcast Host
I don't know. I don't. I. I don't hardly ever see her. We'll chat on Instagram every once in a while, but I do feel like.
Tamara Judge
They have a chemistry. Like, they always look like they're about to kiss.
Podcast Host
I know.
Tamara Judge
Well, then Vicki, Gina, Tammy, and Lori go to LA to meet Joe. Joe takes them to her favorite shoe shop.
Podcast Host
What is this store? Jimmy Choo? I never heard of it. Oh, my gosh.
Tamara Judge
Joe. Says the woman.
Podcast Host
You think those boxes were empty that they walked out with?
Tamara Judge
Oh, I mean, the fact that Joe was buying those shoes after her apartment situation, I'm like, joe, no, don't buy the shoes. Just like Slades shouldn't have bought the credenza they looked at at the furniture store. Season one, like, stop buying this crap. But it feels very much like the moms are visiting their daughters at college. Like, they don't all seem like pals.
Podcast Host
No, they're just starting to really put the girls together second season, and having them do things together. And then I think when I come in, we get together and I stir up, and they're like, oh, here is a good formula.
Tamara Judge
What we want.
Podcast Host
This is what we want. Let's franchise this.
Tamara Judge
Well, that was a smart plan because look how many there are now. But before we finish up this episode, it's another big photo shoot where the girls get in a fight. The photographer tells Cara to look more bitchy. Could you imagine if somebody said that now?
Podcast Host
Well, this was a big deal back then for reality tv. It was. It was a big deal. It was talked about for a long time.
Tamara Judge
The photo shoot or that he called her bitchy.
Podcast Host
The fight.
Tamara Judge
Oh, the fight of the girls.
Podcast Host
Yeah. When they smacked each other in the face.
Tamara Judge
What were they actually fighting about?
Podcast Host
That boy.
Tamara Judge
Yeah, boy.
Podcast Host
So, yeah, so, you know, early days of Housewives, it was very. Let's just talk about what's going on at home and our life, and that's it. They barely even hung out together, and then all of a sudden, there's a fight.
Tamara Judge
Oh, then Gina. Vicki and Gina's friend Janelle go out for her birthday. She said, don is the only man to show up. She says that her husband's not going to make it, which I'm like, count your blessings. Like, I can't. You don't want him there.
Podcast Host
I'm surprised dawn showed up.
Tamara Judge
True. Then Lori thinks Ashley is not ready for the responsibility of a townhouse, so she needs to enroll in a full semester. I don't feel like we're going to see Ashley enrolling anytime soon. No, I mean, I don't feel like season three is going to drop. Is Lori still there? Season three, who's gone? Who comes when you come? Like, who? What's your cast?
Podcast Host
Season three, Jolie Joe leaves.
Tamara Judge
I'm Slade stays with a new girlfriend.
Podcast Host
Was he off? Quinn and a girl named Quinn and myself join. And then the following season, I believe it was Gretchen that was added.
Tamara Judge
Ah.
Podcast Host
And Slade is gone until season five, and then he comes back with Gretchen.
Tamara Judge
Well, I'm gonna miss him.
Podcast Host
Yes, I know.
Tamara Judge
All right, guys, keep tuning in for Twat's flashback. And because next season, it's going to be Tamara, and we are. It's going to be the first time we actually get to talk about you on a show. Great. Because I'm not allowed to.
Podcast Host
I'm not allowed my white bleached hair that was falling out.
Tamara Judge
You know what? You know, like, pretty much you're summing up me.
Podcast Host
Yes, but it was fried. Like, you could see the. It was fried.
Tamara Judge
Oh, my gosh. All right, well, bye, Tam. Have a good day. Okay, bye.
Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: A Holiday Binge: TWOTS Flashback: RHOC 207 & 208
Release Date: January 2, 2025
Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, is a weekly discussion podcast where Teddi and Tamra delve into the intricacies of Real Housewives series. In the episode titled "A Holiday Binge: TWOTS Flashback: RHOC 207 & 208", Teddi and Tamra take a nostalgic journey through episodes 207 and 208 of The Real Housewives of Orange County (RHOC), offering their unique insights, humor, and critiques.
The podcast kicks off as Teddi and Tamra prepare to dissect episodes 207 and 208 of RHOC. They express a mix of anticipation and skepticism about revisiting older episodes, especially considering the evolving dynamics of the show over the seasons.
Notable Quote:
Joe and Slade's Turbulent Relationship: Teddi and Tamra dive deep into the strained relationship between Joe and Slade. They discuss Joe's unexpected decision to move to Los Angeles, leaving Slade bewildered and heartbroken. The hosts critique the abruptness of the breakup, questioning the timeline and the believability of Joe's actions.
Notable Quotes:
Introduction of New Relationships: The discussion shifts to Tammy's foray back into the dating scene and her interactions with Duff. Teddi and Tamra express surprise and disappointment over the lack of chemistry between Tammy and Duff, reminiscing about past failed romances and blind dates.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts highlight the significant presence of children in these episodes, noting how their involvement adds complexity to the Housewives' lives. They critique the realistic portrayal of parenting challenges, such as Ashley's troubles and Lori's concerns about her daughter's responsibilities.
Notable Quotes:
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Vicki's astrology party and the girls' photo shoots. Teddi and Tamra critique the superficial nature of the astrology insights and the forced drama during the photo sessions, where tensions among the Housewives surface.
Notable Quotes:
Teddi and Tamra reflect on the evolution of RHOC over its seasons, particularly focusing on production choices such as filming locations and character development. They express frustration with recurring plotlines and question the authenticity of certain story arcs, like the hiring of a dog trainer or the portrayal of Gina's Playboy past.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts intersperse their analysis with personal anecdotes and humorous reflections, such as Tamra's reminiscence of her first car with a vanity plate and their playful banter about creating their own Housewives-themed band.
Notable Quotes:
Teddi and Tamra offer critical analysis of various characters' actions and motivations. They scrutinize Slade's continuous attempts to hold onto Joe, Gina's connections with Playboy, and Vicki's relentless pursuit of acceptance from Michael and his girlfriend.
Notable Quotes:
As the episode wraps up, Teddi and Tamra summarize their thoughts on the RHOC episodes, expressing a mix of nostalgia and critique. They hint at future discussions, including topics they'll explore in upcoming episodes, and share a light-hearted farewell filled with humor about their on-air personas.
Notable Quotes:
Character Development: The episode highlights the complex relationships and evolving dynamics between the Housewives, particularly focusing on Joe and Slade's tumultuous relationship.
Production Critique: Teddi and Tamra offer a keen eye on the production choices, questioning the authenticity and necessity of certain plotlines and character actions.
Humor and Relatability: The hosts maintain a humorous and relatable tone throughout, making their analysis both entertaining and insightful for listeners familiar and unfamiliar with RHOC.
Nostalgic Reflection: There's a strong sense of nostalgia as Teddi and Tamra revisit older episodes, reflecting on how the show and its characters have changed over time.
Final Thoughts:
In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver a comprehensive and engaging analysis of RHOC episodes 207 and 208. Their blend of humor, critical insight, and personal anecdotes provides listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful commentary on one of reality TV's enduring franchises.