A (3:26)

in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

B (3:36)

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Good morning, Dolores. Hi, Tim.

A (3:43)

Tim. Why do I feel like I haven't seen you?

B (3:45)

You haven't. I think the last time I saw you, maybe. No. Were you home yet? I can't even remember.

A (3:51)

I was stuck. I was stuck in Florida. Then I made it home and I've been just running. I. I was. I took a page out of Sophia's book. Gabby did anyway, and she's selling my clothes on Depop. Adorned by Dolo. Go. Go to Depop and you can have all my clothes. Cheap. All the clothes that I didn't donate.

B (4:13)

What is it? Adorned.

A (4:14)

Adored Adorned by Dolo. Okay, I think I'm just gonna change it to my name. That's too hard even for me. But right now on Depop, it's Adorned by Dolo. I don't care. Make an offer. You can have it. Gabby's trying to pay off her student loans, so.

B (4:31)

Isn't it funny? I did that with not student loans, but I'm like, just sell my clothes. I don't care. Like, you can keep the money.

A (4:38)

She needs extra money. I go, you work seven days a week. You're a veterinarian. I don't know why you need extra money, but hey, go ahead because if you can't make ends meet. But I get it. You know, she. We paid for undergrad and she's in charge of ed school, so.

B (4:53)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just heard that Atlanta is going to be taking Potomac spot. They start, I believe in April. So we'll. Me and you will be recapping Atlanta together. So. That's exciting.

A (5:10)

That's very exciting.

B (5:11)

Yeah. So it starts April 5th. It starts. So I'm super excited about that now. There was a little. A little tweet that went out or X. I don't even know what to call it anymore. That producers were planning on bringing both Brit and Kenya back for Atlanta for season 17 and told Britt that she would have to film alongside Kenya, which was one of the reasons that led Brit to take legal action against Bravo.

A (5:39)

I don't believe that.

B (5:41)

That's why I was going to ask you, do you believe this? This was from Bravo by Caleb. I think. You do not believe that.

A (5:48)

No, I think the reason she didn't show up to the reunion was because she was going to file a lawsuit against them. And that's why she didn't come back, because she's trying to say, how can you file a lawsuit and say, like, you were upset about something and then go back and go back to it?

B (6:11)

So you know that Brit is. Filed a lawsuit against Bravo.

A (6:17)

Yeah.

B (6:17)

In that lawsuit, she said that producers were planning to bring both Brit and Kenya back to season 17 and that it was in the lawsuit. Now, we don't see Kenya in the trailer. So Kenya is not on the show. So this obviously doesn't seem like it adds up. So she did not want to have to film alongside Kenya. So that's the reason why. Letter to take legal action. But, like, do you believe that?

A (6:48)

No, No, I don't. I don't believe that. I don't believe that was even ever a consideration to bring them both back. No, sorry. False news.

B (6:57)

Yeah. So the current cast is Porsha, Phaedra, Drew Shamia, Angela Kelly. So Pinky and K are full time with Cynthia Bailey returning as a friend.

A (7:10)

Cynthia does well as a friend. I think she's happy, she's peaceful. She's. She's doing just fine as a friend.

B (7:19)

Yeah, yeah. It's probably what she wants.

A (7:22)

You know, as a friend, you don't have to bring in your personal life as much. It's not, you know, a requirement of you. So she gets to keep a lot of her life private and still be a part of it. Yeah, she goes back and forth from LA to Atlanta. She's got a lot of other things going on. Her podcast is based in la. She's. She's. Isn't she filming? She does, like, also scripted.

B (7:50)

Yeah, she does a lot. And she's busy. She's back and forth. So like you said, she doesn't.

A (7:55)

She.

B (7:56)

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C (9:37)

This isn't just a cooking show, it's 16 of the most decorated chefs in the country. Michelin stars, Beaucouste dor medalists, James Beard Award winners and nominees going head to head for the biggest cash prize in culinary television history, $1 million.

B (9:55)

Hosted by Emmy nominated food expert Padma Lakshmi, America's Culinary cup turns the kitchen to a high pressure arena where there are no second chances and every dish matters. Each chef has to bring total skill and total focus because one mistake sends them home.

C (10:12)

It's intense, it's high level and it's unlike anything you've seen in the food world.

B (10:18)

Don't miss the premiere of America's Culinary Cup Wednesday after Survivor on CBS and streaming on Paramount. Plus, let's talk about modern home shopping. It's sort of become a fun side hobby, right? Scrolling listings at night, dreaming about kitchens you haven't seen or backyards you haven't stepped foot in. All from the comfort of, well, literally anywhere. Redfin knows a lot of people like you want to own but are stuck in this browsing mode loop. That's where Redfin flips the script. With listings that update within minutes and tours you can book right from the Redfin app, you can see your dream home the moment it appears. Now, liking a listing is easy, but actually landing it, that's where Redfin comes in. Redfin has over 2,200 agents with local expertise and Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents. That means they help you win. Not just win dough shop. Redfin is built to help you go from just looking to wait. This could actually be home. So become the newest neighbor on the block. Visit redfin.com to start finding and start owning. That's redfin.com if you're looking for a wine that's not just delicious but also a total crowd pleaser, let me introduce you to Josh Sellars. This California wine brand has over a dozen award winning wines. From crisp Sauvignon Blancs to velvety Merlot's. Josh Sellars has the perfect wine for every occasion. Serving up a juicy steak at your next barbecue. Their Cabernet Sauvignon is the perfect pairing. Unwinding with friends after a long week. You can't go wrong with their Pinot Grigio. With so many delicious wines to choose from, Josh Sellers has something for everyone. Josh Sellers is a proud sponsor of two T's in a pod. Visit www.joshcellars.com teapot T E A P O D and join the wine club to get 20% off. Please drink responsibly. You know those little moments at home that just work? Like having a hook that's actually right where you need it. A vanity where everything finally has a place or a faucet that fills your pot right on the stove. That's what Signature Hardware is all about. Style and function in every detail from the kitchen to the bathroom. They help you finish your space beautifully. Check them out@signature hardware.com or visit your local Ferguson showroom. Signature Hardware create your signature style. So we are going to recap the the Reunion part three. So Potomac is officially over and like we said, Atlanta is going to take their time slot on Sundays starting in April.

A (13:18)

Thank God we have something to watch on Sundays now.

B (13:20)

Yeah. So the reunion starts out where Monique plays a clip from a video message she received. Now, how do you feel about them keeping this in the episode but not telling us who the person is?

A (13:34)

That's what social media is saying. Apparently it's her daughter saying that Stacy told Chris that she that mo' Nique was filming with the kids.

B (13:45)

Okay. Do you think that the that Chris said that in front of his daughter and the daughter repeated it to her mom?

A (13:52)

That's a likely situation that could have happened. That makes sense. Of course. So, you know, be that being said, the reason I do think it's someone like her daughter is why would they cover it? Number one, why would they not let us hear who it is? Why would they not say who it is. And by the look of everyone's face, it was so very clear, like, of course we know she's going to believe. Bleep. That's her. Would mean her daughter. Just everything pointed to it was her daughter. Unless it was her mother, which I don't even know if that woman is

B (14:34)

around somebody that won't sign a release. So if it's a minor, both parents have to sign a. Like, I don't know.

A (14:40)

But everybody on that couch, and I

B (14:42)

feel like they're old. Her kids were that are not that old, though.

A (14:46)

Everybody on the couch shut her mouth and said, of course we're believing her. Even Stacy didn't. Didn't come back and say, oh, yeah, look who it's coming from. Or, oh, are you going to believe that? Stacy did not even try to.

B (15:01)

Stacy looked nervous.

A (15:03)

She looked very nervous.

B (15:04)

Very nervous. I mean, we're two minutes into the. For the third reunion, and she's already been caught in a lie. And she talks about how she has zero contact with Chris, but yet there's a flashback of her showing her text thread to Monique while they were filming. Like, why do you lie about things that can be proven?

A (15:26)

Well, here's the thing. Why I agree with Tia here. I agree with Tia saying, we all have families to protect. We need to get to the bottom of it. Nobody's really getting to the bottom of it.

C (15:43)

Nope.

B (15:44)

No one's getting to the bottom of it. But at that moment, I was disappointed in Stacy. She looked like on her face. I mean, she did her best QVC to get out of it, but she. The look on her face was like,

A (15:59)

I'm guilty or shocked that who was saying it, was saying it, where it was coming from, too.

B (16:08)

How do we find out who was saying it?

A (16:11)

I don't know. But she offered to bring Chris on. Was that just calling everybody's bluff? Because she would know that Chris wouldn't want to be involved.

B (16:20)

I don't know. It's confusing.

A (16:22)

That's why, enough with the petty fights. Let's get to the bottom of what's the crux of something that's really going on.

B (16:29)

Right. I'm hoping, like, if she does do interviews, she will tell us who it is.

A (16:35)

Who, Monique?

B (16:36)

Yeah.

A (16:38)

Probably not. Not if it's her kid. But it could get leaked. It could get leaked. There's a million people on that set.

B (16:45)

Yeah. Well, Andy goes on to talk about Colorado, and he didn't spend much time on this whole subject. Angel says she thinks that Ashley and Giselle deserve to be in the smaller room together.

A (16:59)

Well, they gave her a hard time this season.

B (17:01)

I don't blame her. It's not that big of a deal.

A (17:05)

Small. Listen, let's all just take away from our cushy lives for a second and talk about was still a nice beautiful room. It was a bed with beautiful pillows and puffy down blanket and I, I can't deal with the non running water, but.

B (17:20)

Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't her fault. That was whoever owned the Airbnb. They. Something went wrong. Well, I was really expecting them to dive into this whole Colorado trip. It was such a big part of the season and it. It concerns me that they're just like. Andy did not want to really get into it.

A (17:38)

He said he's not going to talk about it. So we're not.

B (17:40)

What does that mean for Angel's future?

A (17:44)

I don't think it's indicative of Angel's future on the show. I just don't think that this show is for Angel. She seems like a very nice person. I think she has a beautiful life and a loving husband, wonderful children. She has her business that she now has to fix from being on the show. She has not benefited from being on the show at all.

B (18:04)

At all. It's actually sad. First season, they really tore every part of her life up, from her marriage to her business to her home.

A (18:17)

I feel bad. I do. I feel bad. I wish you would have had some type of a good experience here. But she didn't. So angel, you don't really. From what I see and from what you say, do you really need it? Do you really need it? This is for everybody.

B (18:32)

I don't think she's going to come back.

A (18:34)

Okay.

B (18:35)

I don't. I don't know. I don't know that I would. After that experience, everybody wants to come back. I know. That's the problem. Everyone come back and they're going to be like, oh, it's going to be different next.

A (18:46)

It's going to be different. I. If they do something wrong, I'm going to redeem myself. I'm going to get people to like me.

B (18:52)

Now Karen joins the reunion. Do you think that Karen avoids labeling herself as an alcoholic because that means, you know, she'll never be able to drink again?

A (19:04)

No, I think it's very hard for her to say right now. She just doesn't want to call herself that. I'm not going to write her off as saying that. She's never. That she's going to not be able to do this. I'm going to say that I give her a lot of grace, and I'm saying she's going to try. And she is accepting. She said a lifetime of recovery for me. Just because she's not saying the words. She's doing what she has to do.

B (19:39)

Yeah. I mean, lifetime recovery. That's basically. Basically saying it without saying it.

A (19:44)

Yeah. Because, like, I have people in my family who are in lifetime recovery, and I've been to many meetings, and they stand up high. Whether they've had a drink or done a drug in 30, 40, 50 years, they still stand up and say, hi, I'm an alcoholic. Hi, I'm a drug addict.

B (20:01)

Right, Right.

A (20:02)

Maybe that Karen says it not publicly. Maybe she says it in her meetings that she'll have to go to for the rest of her life. I don't know. But until I see her, God forbid, a million times fall off this wagon, I don't care how she says it.

B (20:17)

Yeah. So Karen said she ignored the comment where Giselle said she needed to be in an elderly section of the jail. And then Giselle goes, it was for your protection. Be with older people, so you can't. Don't get hurt.

A (20:34)

Okay.

B (20:35)

Yeah.

A (20:35)

You know, you might have meant it that way, Giselle, but you don't typically. Like I look at somebody, how they usually say something or how they usually do something, Usually there's shade behind it. So I'm gonna go with Giselle's queen of shade. She's the queen of shade, but she also. She. She also admits it when she owns it, when she does it, so. Except she didn't own on what Watch what happens live when married to medicine. What was it, Doctor?

B (21:05)

Oh, right, right.

A (21:07)

She said. No, no. Robin said it, but. No, it was her that said it. Maybe she just forgot. I. I forget things I say, too.

B (21:14)

Well, Karen's funny. She's like, I'm willing to be cordial with Stacy if she doesn't lie.

A (21:19)

Well, that's probably not going to happen.

B (21:21)

That's why, good luck with that. If Stacy stops lying, then we know we're in real trouble with this show because she just. Stacy's talking. Truth's not coming out.

A (21:31)

I don't know how she gets away with it. All the time. They're just like, oh, another line. Okay. If somebody else lies, they, like, rip somebody apart.

B (21:42)

Oh, my gosh. I know. I would have a real problem with it. I'll tell you that right now.

A (21:47)

I know you would. We know. I want to put you on Potomac. And see, they really handle it. Well, they tell her off all the time about it, but they never hold her feet. No, never.

B (22:01)

Never. So when Wendy's upset with Karen saying that she called her mother a witch, and then we get a flashback, and Karen absolutely did not call Wendy's mother a witch.

A (22:12)

She said the W word.

B (22:13)

She said. No. What she said was she was saying how other people on the cast have called her mom a witch. She did not call her a witch.

A (22:25)

That's true.

B (22:26)

Yeah. You know, and Karen's like, I never want to disrespect your mom. She says one of the favorite moments of the season is when Wendy's mom told her to shut the f up. And the cast gasp.

A (22:38)

Was like.

B (22:41)

Giselle's like, karen. Karen.

A (22:43)

And Andy, too. Andy's like, well, I have to tell you, that was a very. I was like, okay, okay.

B (22:52)

All of a sudden, everybody holding on to that one. She. She hadn't had any shade going on in her life in the past what year? And she's like, I'm going for it.

A (23:01)

But she did. She did redeem herself and why she said it.

B (23:06)

But did she really? Can you take it back once it's out of the tube?

A (23:10)

Listen, I used it out of context because I'm trying to tell you.

B (23:16)

Shut up.

A (23:16)

Stop talking about your case.

B (23:17)

Well, I don't know if that's the truth. I think it just helped her. Like that came in. She's like, ah, let me. Let me redeem myself. Everybody thought I was mean. That's what I think. I think she met every word she said.

A (23:29)

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It said, it's past. Wendy takes it like a champ. Wendy's very somber.

B (23:37)

This wouldn't you be,

A (23:40)

girl? I'd be in my pants.

B (23:43)

I know. I think. Yeah, we'll get into it. The conversation switches to Wendy's arrest. Andy says how he always looked up to Wendy as a housewife. You can tell he's very disappointed. He also said, like, these. These are. This is a big deal. This isn't something that's going to go away. This is a big deal.

A (24:03)

He did say that. He did. He did, yeah.

B (24:07)

Even in, like, you know, the girls do their confessional. Angel says she hopes justice is served. Angel thinks that Wendy was using her to distract everyone from her personal issues. Now, there was some confusion on how, though. But did Wendy know this was going on while she was filming? I just feel like she had to have known there was an investigation. Maybe not. I don't know.

A (24:28)

This is a year in the making. They don't just show up at your house. They.

B (24:32)

Well, yeah, exactly. So, I mean, there was emails that had. Had observed. She said no. She said she didn't know until they showed up. But I don't know that I'm completely buying that. I really don't.

A (24:47)

Don't you get a letter from the insurance? Not that I ever have because I don't even claim things that are stolen at this point. It's just too much paperwork for me. When they broke into my house, I had to fill out, like, the damage that was done. And it was only. They were only covering like 1500. I'm like, I'm so upset about all the jewelry that's missing that I'm not going to get back. I don't even want them. I don't even care at this point. What's the point? If you. Unless you have every piece of jewelry, which it's a lot of money. Every single piece of jewelry has to be insured.

B (25:24)

Yeah.

A (25:25)

And that's a lot. A lot of money.

B (25:26)

Well, do it.

A (25:28)

So I guess they had every piece of jewelry insured and purse.

B (25:33)

Anyways, Wendy says that the past few months have been hell on her family.

A (25:38)

Of course.

B (25:40)

Of.

A (25:40)

Yeah. And of course.

B (25:42)

But.

A (25:42)

But it seems that she said the silver lining is our families come together where they weren't before. My mother and sister are there for me. And what else did she say? She said and his family because I know there was a rift between his family and her for a while.

B (26:04)

Yeah. Well, Karen tells Winnie to stop giving information on the case if she doesn't want to go to jail. She's not wrong at all. Like, what are you doing? Like, I would just say, no, no, no, no, no. Like, if you potentially you're going to go to jail, why say something on the couch on national TV about the case? They're watching your every move, Wendy.

A (26:26)

Every word. Everybody.

B (26:29)

They are watching her comments. Like, I agree with Karen a hundred percent. I was shocked that she gave. Like, we did this and then we did that. Then we walked in and then this happened. And then what?

A (26:42)

No, like as. As we stay in Italian statazit. Yeah.

B (26:50)

Shut the up. Is that what it means?

A (26:52)

Means shut up.

B (26:53)

Yeah. Then Andy asked the girls what is the biggest lesson they've learned this season. Angel says she has learned that being Zen and calm doesn't mean you have to skip over things that bother you.

A (27:08)

That's very true, Angel. And she said that she wishes she was more forceful. Well, okay, you wished you were forceful this season. However, you just sat on the couch and you still weren't forceful in how you were treated or how you felt.

B (27:26)

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C (28:20)

This isn't just a cooking show. It's 16 of the most decorated chefs in the country. Michelin stars, Bocuse d'Or medalists, James Beard award winners and nominees going head to head for the biggest cash prize and culinary television history. $1 million.

B (28:38)

Hosted by Emmy nominated food expert Padma Lakshmi, America's Culinary cup turns the kitchen to a high pressure arena where there are no second chances and every dish matters. Each chef has to bring total skill and total focus because one mistake sends them home.

C (28:56)

It's intense, it's high level, and it's unlike anything you've seen in the food world.

B (29:02)

Don't miss the premiere of America's Culinary Cup Wednesday after Survivor on CBS and streaming on Paramount. Plus, let's talk about modern home shopping. It's sort of become a fun side hobby, right? Scrolling listings at night, dreaming about kitchens you haven't seen or backyards you haven't stepped foot in. All from the comfort of, well, literally anywhere. Redfin knows a lot of people like you want to own but are stuck in this browsing mode loop. That's where Redfin flips the script. With listings that update within minutes and tours you can book right from the Redfin app, you can see your dream home the moment it appears. Now, liking a listing is easy, but actually landing it? That's where Redfin comes in. Redfin has over 2,200 agents with local expertise and Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents. That means they help you win. Not just win dough shop. Redfin is built to help you go from just looking to wait. This could actually be home. So become the newest neighbor on the block. Visit redfin.com to start finding and start owning. That's redfin.com if you're looking for a wine that's not just delicious, but also a total crowd pleaser, let me introduce you to Josh Sellars. This California wine brand has over a dozen award winning wines. From crisp Sauvignon Blancs to velvety Merlots. Josh Cellars has the perfect wine for every occasion. Serving up a juicy steak at your next barbecue. Their Cabernet Sauvignon is the perfect pairing. Unwinding with friends after a long week. You can't go wrong with their Pinot Grigio. With so many delicious wines to choose from, Josh Sellers has something for everyone. Josh Sellars is a proud sponsor of two teas in a pod. Visit www.joshcellers.com teapot t a p o d and join the wine club to get 20% off. Please drink responsibly. You know those little moments at home that just work? Like having a hook that's actually right where you need it. A vanity where everything finally has a place or a faucet that fills your pot right on the stove. That's what Signature Hardware is all about. Style and function in every detail from the kitchen to the bathroom. They help you finish your space beautifully. Check them out@signature hardware.com or visit your local Ferguson showroom. Signature Hardware. Create your signature style. Tia says she can be naive in situations and not think about how her words might affect someone else.

A (31:55)

I think she was referring to Stacy.

B (31:57)

I just don't think that Tia's words were that cutting. And how in the housewife world do you.

A (32:06)

No.

B (32:07)

Do you think housewives in a whole are changing that? Fans do not want to see like the fighting and all that stuff.

A (32:15)

That's why we're not on anymore.

B (32:18)

They, they want. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what they want, to be honest with you.

A (32:22)

So you have to evolve in any job, you have to evolve with what's going on next. There's a saying. What's. Who's the next girl to dance with? Like, what's the next thing we're going to do to keep this going? Because the girls, I mean, the, the people, not just the girls, the, the, the people that grew up watching this show are in it. It's a different world now.

B (32:44)

Yeah.

A (32:45)

So when, when the, our show started in 2016, it was a novelty to hear people fight. It was a novelty to see someone throw a table.

B (32:53)

See, that's, that's where I've been stuck in for years. Is that, that's what they want? That's what, that's what's going on? That's what's happening across the board, every franchise now. Is it changing?

A (33:03)

Yes. And people want to see women building each other up, not tearing them down. And I'm happy it's changed like this. I am happy. You know, I remember when my dad was the chief of police and things started to change, and I said, you know, dad, you gotta change with the times. But he wouldn't. He still trusted the same people that he shouldn't have trusted anymore. He still did things the same way he used to. And you know what? You just have to see what's out there. And I. And I talk to a lot of the fans, Tamara. I talk to everyone I see about us, about the pod, about the shows, what do they think about the shows? And don't get me wrong, they still like to see the drama in the fights, but to a certain extent, they don't want to see the same fight dragged out across the whole season.

B (33:53)

No, I agree with that. But the problem is the fans, especially on social media, they don't want to see the fighting. And then as soon as the fighting happens, they go after the person, and then they want them fired and all these things. And then when there's no fighting, they're like, oh, this show's boring.

A (34:09)

I know.

B (34:10)

It's like the fans are fickle. You can't get a read on what do you really want, so you can't make right in. Right, Exactly. Kay says she wants to start putting herself in other people's shoes more.

A (34:29)

What does that mean?

B (34:30)

I don't know.

A (34:31)

Okay.

B (34:32)

She wants to start. She wants to. You want to put yourself in Wendy's shoes, maybe to understand what they're going through better. I don't know. I don't know. Ashley says she wants to learn more

A (34:48)

of his sisterhood like we were just talking about.

B (34:51)

Ashley says she wants to lean more into her sisterhood side with the girls. I. I think back to what we're talking about. People want to see women on these shows lifting each other up. At least that's what they say. Until they say it's boring. Yeah, but.

A (35:06)

And, and to. To echo that, Wende, in the end, said, these girls were a lot easier on me than I had expected. And to end it with that, I would have to say, I think that's what we. We mean like Wendy's. You know, it's a right to fight, but are you gonna really kick somebody when they're all the way down? She's looking at jail time. She's her. And her husband are looking at serious jail time.

B (35:31)

Well, let me just tell you how my mind works. I instantly think, why would you do it? Why would you break the law?

A (35:43)

Why do.

B (35:43)

Why would you do it? So I go to that, like, irritated instantly. And then I see all the girls like, this is horrible. I'm so sad for you. But then my mind, I'm like, you created this. If you are guilty, you created this. And I have to push myself into. I feel bad for you, that kind of thing.

A (36:04)

Why do you have to push yourself into that?

B (36:06)

Because I watch everybody else say things like, don't change for you. It's like. And I don't want to be that person that's like the instantly, like, negative one. But it's just frustrating.

A (36:21)

Like, well, why don't you 1. I mean, I can add to that, but I don't think you should change the way you feel about anything. Okay. Just because it's the popular opinion. Because that's never been you. So don't do that now.

B (36:34)

Yeah.

A (36:35)

I think that we should get all our facts straight. Yeah. Because there was a time where Wendy sat at a table and they showed it and said, I don't know what the bills are. I don't know this or I don't know that. Now the law will say, you should have known what you didn't know.

B (36:54)

Right.

A (36:55)

And.

B (36:55)

But on the flip side, she's constantly talking if she doesn't know the money, the bills, none of that stuff. She's constantly talking about spending money and spending money and spending money. Like a lot of her personality on

A (37:05)

the show is fucking bills are. That's usually somebody that doesn't have the concept of a dollar or know what things. How much things cost or what the living expenses. And there is that man who just wants to please the queen and lets himself get in more debt and more trouble and more spending and more spending rather than to say no and feel like less of a man. I'd love to find that person.

B (37:32)

Do you think it's possible that she had no idea what was going on?

A (37:38)

I'm never going to speak on something. I don't know all the details. To ask me after the case if I. Because what I think because I don't want to say something on. On this because I don't know.

B (37:54)

Yeah, I see. I don't think we know like an. We don't know enough about the case.

A (37:58)

I don't know enough about it. But when I do, then you can ask me and I will be honest. Yeah, well, right now.

B (38:05)

But Right now, we don't know.

A (38:06)

Too early. But moving on, I could definitely tell you, I believe she doesn't know how much things cost in the house. I totally believe that.

B (38:14)

Clearly, Giselle's wondering, where's my package? Where is my package? And I think Stacy's the one that's like, what? Giselle doesn't get a package? And we've done seasons where we didn't do a package. I think it was maybe last year, there was no packages at all. None.

A (38:33)

When you say package, what do you mean?

B (38:35)

Okay, so basically, they go and, you know, it comes up with a monitor, and they go over Giselle's year. Like, Giselle did this, and Giselle said this, and Giselle went there and Giselle did this, and then they discuss it. Well, maybe Giselle didn't have a. Maybe a lot going on. I don't know. But they. Giselle do not.

A (38:54)

If you were on the show, you had something going on. I know. Maybe it was an angel's balls. The whole time, talk about it seems

B (39:01)

like there could have been something. Right.

A (39:04)

She spoke up.

B (39:05)

Well, Giselle wasn't happy about it. And when she was going to give her final thoughts, Giselle's basically said, since I didn't get a package, let me tell you. And she looked like she was mad.

C (39:18)

Mad.

B (39:19)

She literally was like, my kids are good, and this is good.

A (39:24)

I'd love to talk to you about my new business ventures. And, yeah, that was.

B (39:30)

She. She was clearly upset. I remember one year they forgot. Emily.

A (39:34)

Emily. Yeah. And was she upset?

D (39:37)

Yeah.

B (39:37)

Well, I know she's upset. She's like, what?

A (39:39)

What?

B (39:40)

I mean, honestly, for me, I would be happy if my package was forgotten right then. That means you have to answer to all the things you've done. There's going to be fights about it.

A (39:51)

I'll tell you this. I probably wouldn't have noticed if they forgot my package.

B (39:55)

I wouldn't have either. The day so long and so many moving parts, I would have not noticed.

A (40:00)

I probably, like, you would have been happy.

B (40:03)

Very happy.

A (40:04)

There's a lot to answer to when they say that.

B (40:06)

Well, then, Stacy. Stacy, really? Stacy, out of all the things you could have said, like, she wants to continue being herself and not change?

A (40:19)

No, she said she wants to be more transparent.

B (40:22)

Well, first she said, I want to continue to be myself and not change. And then she says, I want to be more direct.

A (40:31)

That's what it was. Direct, not transparent. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.

B (40:35)

You want to be more direct. Well, Let me tell you the truth.

A (40:41)

Okay, that's fine. But let me just tell you something. I don't think you're capable. Stacy, I love you. You're beautiful. I've gotten a kick out of you. I think more people should take a page out of your book. I don't think that you can. You know, that's not something that comes very easy to someone who doesn't do it.

B (40:59)

Yeah.

A (41:00)

Don't you think?

B (41:02)

Yeah. Well, Wendy says she wants to lead with kindness.

A (41:08)

Now you're saying that.

B (41:09)

Yeah, I, I, this is, like, scary for me. When we finish and they're like, can you give us a statement about your season? I'm like, oh, me do really? I hate this kind of stuff. I get, I get nervous. I stumble over my words because you were not.

A (41:30)

But you know they're gonna ask her. But, Tamara, you've been doing it 25 years.

B (41:35)

Always ask they don't be prepared for,

A (41:38)

just in case they do. They do ask a lot. They'll say. What they do say is, what was your thorn? What was your rose? That's what you get a lot. Which I like that. I, I kind of like that. Because it's when it's said like that, you go right to the worst and the best part.

B (41:58)

I just feel like by the end of the reunion, eight, ten hours in, you're so spent, man.

A (42:03)

That's why I'm saying, forget my package all day.

B (42:07)

Yeah. Do you feel like this was a good buy for Wendy or from Wendy?

A (42:16)

You mean?

B (42:17)

Do you think she, like, she won't be back? Do you think she will be on next season? Yes.

A (42:22)

They don't want to miss the fall and rise of somebody that goes through something like this in their life. Do you think they're missing this? She's the first one I see coming.

B (42:33)

I'm curious to see what they're going to do or where she's going to be at in this league. Well, that's the situation. Yeah.

A (42:38)

You know, I'm gonna, you know, I'm curious with whatever information we have now, I'm curious to know what she's up against.

B (42:50)

Yeah, I mean, I don't know when court dates are or when you. This stuff takes forever. Sometimes it could take years.

A (42:57)

But, you know, Paul was saying he's like, Dolores, that just didn't happen overnight. You know, that's coming. They just don't show up at your house and raid your house like that.

B (43:10)

Well, Andy asked, you know, he said he was reading some of the things that were in the court documents. And said that they have no money. And he asked her about that, and she really didn't answer that one. She's like, well, I can't remember exactly what she said because somewhere along the lines like, well, I have to trust what the courts are saying, or something like that.

A (43:33)

She should have said, you're damn straight I'm broke. I don't have a dime, can't feed my kids. Don't know what start a ghost dress. This little. This nail ring I have on.

B (43:48)

That thing drove me crazy.

A (43:49)

Borrowed it.

B (43:50)

That thing. Thank God you mentioned that. That thing on her finger drove me crazy. It matched her earrings, which look like chili peppers to me the entire time. And then she had one on her finger.

A (44:02)

I know, I know. I liked it. You actually liked it? Yeah.

B (44:06)

Oh. Drove me nuts.

A (44:08)

But I'm not a jewelry person anymore. I like my watches.

B (44:11)

That's how I am.

A (44:12)

I. I love my watches. I get a new watch every year for Christmas. I'm very happy about that. But you know what, Tamra? I have so had so much stolen from me over the years from whether it's the cleaning ladies, friends watching my dogs, taking things, people in and out of my house, and then a huge break in from everything like that I've saved over the years. That was just in my draw. Like, no, I don't get. I don't want it. I don't want something in my life that I'm going to miss if it gets lost or stolen.

B (44:47)

Did you just say draw?

A (44:49)

Yeah.

B (44:51)

You sound like Gina on our show. That's what she calls the draw.

A (44:55)

How do you say drawer? Drawer.

B (44:58)

Drawer.

A (45:00)

Pur. Party. Say water.

B (45:03)

Water.

A (45:04)

I don't even know. Anyway, did you see? Gina's pregnant.

B (45:08)

She's not pregnant. It's a lie.

A (45:11)

I believed it. And I know and I know. And oh, and by the way, people are asking if you and Eddie are still together, did they put out something?

B (45:20)

Constantly. Every single day, they put out things that me and Eddie are split up.

A (45:25)

No, it's not true. But I'm just telling you. Tell them it's not true. He's getting dms. I'm getting dms.

B (45:31)

Oh, it happened. It's those AI Facebook. I mean, I don't know at this point.

A (45:35)

So those AI Facebook. Like, I hate to give them any credit, but people love to read them, even though it's so far fetched.

B (45:42)

Like, and the weird thing is, is you can only see them on Facebook if you go to Google them. There's no. You can't find it anywhere. It'll direct you towards the Facebook page.

A (45:52)

You know, it's funny because there was the one that Paul bought a Dior bag for a girl. So he posted a girl with a Dior bag, but you couldn't see her face. And he's like, oh, this is the girl I bought the background. Stupid stuff.

B (46:08)

It's stupid.

A (46:10)

Love it.

B (46:12)

Well, it's an older generation that's on Facebook, including myself.

A (46:16)

Oh, that makes sense. I never thought of it.

B (46:18)

And it's like, you know, I told you once I got a call from my mom. Just checking to make sure you're not in jail, because once I was arrested, I was arrested. And then sometimes they'll take the exact same story and just change the names in it. So they did a story about Eddie being a gambler and me, like, divorcing him. And then they did the same story with Emily and Shane.

A (46:40)

Okay, so if you're the same, it's the same pregnancy story that I had. My gynecologist called me. He's like, dolores, this isn't safe if you're pregnant. I'm like,

B (46:54)

oh, my God. I remember years.

A (46:56)

Dr. Day, Dr. Brian Day. I am not pregnant. Thank you very much.

B (47:01)

Years ago, there was so. I can't remember the outlet, but they were putting out stories of people died. And there was one that came out that I died on a jet ski. And it's like, that is so horrible. Like, what if, like, family members or somebody saw this? Like, then instantly I had to, like, call my mom, call my dad, like, do something on social media. It's just something like that.

A (47:24)

You really.

B (47:24)

And then the people in this world that comment, oh, good, I'm glad she's dead. She's gone. And I'm like, what is wrong with our world? Well, okay, guys, we're going to close Potomac for the season, and we'll see. Good job.

A (47:40)

We. I enjoyed it. Giselle, you're a queen. Queen. You should have got a freaking package.

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