Bachelor Nation Reveals Secrets from Inside the Sorority

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Bachelor Nation Reveals Secrets from Inside the Sorority"

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Producer: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Date: December 10, 2025
Featured Guests: Trista Sutter, Gabby L. Nikki
Main Theme: Inside look at college "pregaming" rituals and secrets from Bachelor Nation and sorority life

---

Episode Overview

This lively episode dives into the chaos, rituals, and laughs that define college sorority and fraternity "pregaming". Hosts and guests from Bachelor Nation—particularly Trista Sutter and Gabby L. Nikki—reminisce about the realities of Greek life, the wild pre-party traditions, and how these experiences shaped their college memories. The hosts draw generational parallels and discover how some things never change, even as the lingo evolves.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

What Is Pregaming? (05:26, 05:56)

• The hosts kick off by defining "pregaming" for their older audience: “It's the party before the party. It’s when you have a couple drinks to take the edge off before the main event.” (Host, 05:33)
• Trista Sutter reflects on how the term didn’t exist in her day, but notes, “Don’t we all do it? Cocktails before dinner, that's pre gaming!” (Trista Sutter, 05:56)

College Traditions & Sorority Life

Trista Sutter at Indiana University & Miami

• Trista shares her experience as an Alpha Chi Omega at Indiana: “I was a red stepper, danced at halftime... never got to tailgate for football games.” (Trista Sutter, 04:29)
• Describes the 21st birthday "shots" tradition: “At Indiana, on your 21st birthday, you tried to do 21 shots. I got to 19 and my friends made me stop.” (Trista Sutter, 09:01)

College Terminology & Rituals

• Generational differences: Younger guests are more familiar with the term “pregaming,” while older guests didn’t use the term or ritualize it in the same way.
• Accident stories: Trista recalls a friend breaking her nose “walking right into the door frame” after celebrating (09:38).
• The brassy hook: New slang for making yourself throw up at a pregame (08:55).

Party Mishaps and Parental Perspectives

• Both hosts and guests laugh about not always making it to the main event: “You definitely have good intentions… but if you’re having fun, you just keep the pregame going.” (Trista Sutter, 07:41)
• Trista shares a wholesome “drunk dialing” moment: “I called my mom on my 21st birthday… I did 19 shots. You’d be so proud of me.” (Trista Sutter, 13:48)

---

Gabby L. Nikki’s Ole Miss Sorority Experience

Greek Life in the South (15:55)

• Gabby describes Ole Miss Greek life as “huge... so intimidating... I didn’t have recommendation letters, nothing. Rush was the most intimidating thing of my life.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 15:57)
• Culture shock: Coming from Vermont to Ole Miss, the process felt exclusive and overwhelming.

Pregaming Routines & House Rules (16:59–18:43)

• Early pregaming: “Bars close at midnight, so you start pregaming at like 5 pm… it’s a marathon, not a sprint.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 17:03)
• House rules: Could not drink or have men in the sorority house—would pregame at their own “party house.”
• Sorority “standards”: “If you’re on elevated surfaces or swearing on social, you get sent to standards… I got sent once for swearing on my Snapchat story.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 18:29)

Pregames vs. the Main Event

• Gabby shares: “Pregaming was arguably more fun than the party. We had karaoke, Guitar Hero, Just Dance… sometimes no one wanted to leave!” (Gabby L. Nikki, 19:11)
• Signature drinks: “I love gin—maybe I’m a psycho for loving it in college! Otherwise, Vodka Red Bull. Sugar-free, always, for game days.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 19:43)

Surviving the Marathon (20:49)

• Never missing the party: “It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Girl get there. You just have to rally.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 20:55)
• Game day starts at 7 a.m.: “You start pregaming at 7am with Chick-fil-A and a mimosa. Then you just figure it out.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 21:42)

Food & Mixology

• Pre- and postgame eats: “Fridays were Fried Fridays—curly fries, mac n’ cheese bites. After bars, I made ‘drunk pasta’ from scratch. Before, just buttered noodles.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 27:47)
• Mixology on a budget: “You can have a nice drink and it can be cheap. Vodka Red Bull—it’s not that expensive!” (Gabby L. Nikki, 30:33)

Pregaming with the Girls

• Usually girls-only pregames: “It was always the girls. Unless it was formal or a mixer.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 28:54)
• Purpose: “Definitely to take the edge off before hanging with the guys... you don’t want to go somewhere stone cold sober.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 29:34)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trista Sutter on generational perspective:
  "Don’t we do that now, even before a dinner out? Cocktails before dinner, that’s pregaming!" (05:56)

• On 21st birthday traditions:
  “On your 21st, you tried to do 21 shots. I got to 19… my friends wouldn’t let me finish.” – Trista Sutter (09:01)

• Memorable mishap:
  "She tries to go to the bathroom and walks right into the door frame and broke her nose." – Trista Sutter (09:38)

• On pregaming culture at Ole Miss:
  “It’s a marathon, not a sprint. We never lost a party because we were terrible at football.” – Gabby L. Nikki (17:03)
  “Pregaming was arguably more fun than the party. Sometimes no one wanted to leave!” (19:11)

• On “standards” and social media policing:
  “We would get sent to standards... I swore on my Snapchat story once and got sent for that.” – Gabby L. Nikki (18:29)

• Mixology tip:
  “You can have a nice drink and it can be cheap. Vodka Red Bull—it's not that expensive!” – Gabby L. Nikki (30:33)

---

Fun Details: Music & Food

• Pregame Playlist:
  “A lot of rap, EDM—not aggressive, but fun remixes. We loved Big Booty Mix, which is a mashup of all the bangers.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 26:31)

• Pregame Meals:
  “Fridays were Fried Fridays… fried mac n’ cheese bites, curly fries, the most disgusting stuff ever—unless it's after bars, then it's delicious.” (Gabby L. Nikki, 27:59)

---

Time-Stamped Highlights

• 03:53–06:39: Trista Sutter’s college & sorority stories.
• 08:55–10:04: Party/prank mishaps and new Gen Z slang (“brassy hook”).
• 13:48: Trista’s infamous “drunk dial” to her mom on her 21st birthday.
• 15:39–19:36: Gabby L. Nikki on Ole Miss Greek life, house rules, and pregame traditions.
• 21:53: “Velvet ditch” description of Oxford, Mississippi.
• 26:31–27:33: Pregame playlists and the Big Booty Mix music phenomenon.
• 27:47–28:46: Eating habits around pregaming.

---

Conclusion

The episode is both nostalgic and humorous, drawing a direct line from past to present sorority life while revealing unique (and sometimes outrageous) pre-party traditions. The guests’ candid stories and tips make for relatable listening—whether you’re reliving your own college days or getting a guide to Greek life today. The tone is playful, self-deprecating, and infused with the warmth of shared experience.

Transcript

[Gabby L. Nikki]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Guaranteed Human before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession Dirty Rush listeners. You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. It's not mindless scrolling, it's a fashion pursuit. You all know I love a good find. I actually scored a vintage Saint Laurent blazer and a pair of Gucci heels that stick still had the dust bag. There is always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay's Authenticity Guarantee. Ebay Things People Love did you know.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop, voted PCMag's Reader's Choice top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere and Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit lgusa.com iheart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag reader's choice used with permission. All rights reserved. And now Superhuman Shack I keep telling.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep with loud snoring, choking gastric for air and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more at. Don't sleep on osa.com this information is.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Provided by Lilly, a medicine company. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI you can it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like EFTs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transact for your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services By Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures bring incredible sound into every corner of your home this holiday with the new Whimsound smart speaker. Get high resolution Audio with a 1.8-inch touchscreen, smart control and modern design in one powerful speaker for just $299. From Quiet Mornings to lively holiday gatherings, Winsound makes every moment sound better and feel better too. Get the gift of the season for the music enthusiast in your life or for yourself. Whim sound Beautifully designed, effortlessly connected. Shop now at Amazon and search Whimsound. That's W I I M S O.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

U N D welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your.

[Trista Sutter]

Hosts, me, Gia Giud, Daisy Kent and Jennifer Fessler.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. From pre gaming rituals to legendary pre party moments, we are diving deep into the chaos, laughs and memories that make sorority and fraternity life unforgettable. Today we are pre partying with Bachelor Nation before Jingle Ball. They are here to spill all the stories from the good old college days and give us the inside scoop on the ultimate pre party scene.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

So.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

So we have with us now, drumroll please. The beautiful Trista Sutter. Hello, my gorgeous friend.

[Trista Sutter]

Hi. I'm so sad I'm not seeing you in person.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, I know. So am I. You should be here with us. Doesn't feel right.

[Trista Sutter]

I would love that.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Well, listen, you can't party with us at Jingle Ball, but we're going to talk about partying and you and college. Trista, where did you go to school?

[Trista Sutter]

Indiana University. India undergrad. And then I went to Miami for graduate school.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

And what sorority were you in?

[Trista Sutter]

I was in Alpha Chi Omega.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay. Did you ever, or I'm sure you did, do a lot of pre gaming in your day?

[Trista Sutter]

Well, I could. So for football games we couldn't because I. Or I couldn't because I was a red stepper. I, you know, danced at the halftime at the football games. So I could never go to like tailgating or anything for football games.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Trista Sutter]

But you know, if there was any other pre gaming. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Did they call it like, I don't know. Cause you're younger than me. A lot younger than me.

[Trista Sutter]

Not a lot. That's not true. I am not a lot younger than you. I'm 50. I'm 53.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You are?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Am I?

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I am Bob Guiney Just told me he was 54. I was like, are you sure you're 53? Wow. Well, I'm 57, so you're still a baby to me.

[Trista Sutter]

See? See? No, but yeah, you're right. We're right around the same age. I mean, if I was a freshman, we could have been at the same school. If at the same time before 55.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes, that's very true. And they did not call it pregaming when I was in college. They called that.

[Trista Sutter]

That's what they call it now.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

That's what they call it now. Oh, you don't know that term?

[Trista Sutter]

No, I don't know.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

That's going to be hard since that's what this podcast is about. So let me define it. And by the way, I'm sure I'm not going to define it well, but whatever. Well, okay, okay. So it's when you party first, it's the party before the party. So. And you're going to find out more about that very soon. When your kids go to college is my guess. Yes. Although I think my kids started saying it in high school. So before a football game, but even.

[Trista Sutter]

Before a party, I feel like, I mean, don't we do that? Like, I was just going to a dinner, a big dinner, and a friend of mine invited a bunch of us to have like cocktail hour before we went to the. So it's like pre gaming.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes. Right. That is pregaming. That is in essence, I think that is what pre gaming is. But in college I feel like it has. For these guys, it has just this whole. This meaning to it. It's like so exciting to go to the pre game and you wanna go. Cause you wanna have a couple drinks, maybe take the edge off. Yeah, it's like a, you know, it's kind of like a ritual there. So. Well, for our sake and anyone who's listening who is around our age, did you have parties before the parties?

[Trista Sutter]

Listen, I don't remember a lot because I'm 53, but what I do remember is if there was a party, then we were there, my friends and I, you know, and I feel like we did go to like the late night parties, especially when I lived in Miami. We went and you know, I of course wasn't in sorority life at that point, but I feel like you went out so late when you were in college or after.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Trista Sutter]

That. Yes. If you get together and there's something else going on, you'd have, you know, a. A quick drink or a roadie or whatever.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, Us too. So did you ever start out the night in college? And I'm sure the answer is yes, like it is for all of us, all good intentions and not make it to the actual party. Because I think that's, oh, 1000% you and me both. Right, right, right.

[Trista Sutter]

Yeah. I mean, it's. I. I'm kind of thinking that maybe I shouldn't be saying all this because maybe my kids will listen and then they're going to be like, oh, well, Mom. Mom did pre gaming.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Guess what? They're gonna know you did pre gaming pretty quickly, so you're not gonna be able to hide it.

[Trista Sutter]

Yeah, that's true. But in, you know, in college, I was old enough in high school, not so much. But. Yeah, I feel like you definitely have good intentions of maybe having a drink or two, and then if you're having lots of fun and you just keep the pregame gaming. Yeah, why not?

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Well, that's what we talked about with some of these kids that. And they're actually the kids from the Bachelor and the Bachelorette that I've been talking to, so. Stop. Yes. Like who so talk to? Well, Bob, Ginny is certainly not a kid, but we just talked to Jonathan, Charity, Mercedes. It's interesting because they have so many specifics. Right. About this. So stories of them going to the pre game. And somebody was telling me just now about. I don't. Who was it? No, it was Charity. How she had 12 vodka shots at one particular pregame and then got on the back of a pickup truck to go to the actual party and clearly didn't make it. And then how to use the brassy hook where they. She got so sick, she had to put her. That's what they call the fingers down the throat. I don't know, Trista, I don't know what to tell you.

[Trista Sutter]

They got the brassy hook.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

The brassy hook. They got names for everything.

[Trista Sutter]

I had no clue.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trista Sutter]

I mean, okay, so listen, I didn't ever do 12 vodka shots in pregame, but we did have a tradition at Indiana on your 21st birthday to do 21 shots. And I think I got to 19. And I was so mad because my friends were like, you guys have to. You have to go home. You are not gonna do two more shots. And I was like, what? It's my 21st birthday.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I don't wanna end up in the hospital. I'm 20, 21. Right. It's not a birthday. It's not a 21st birthday. If I don't end up hospitalized. Right. Right.

[Trista Sutter]

And actually my sorority sister on her 21st birthday, same thing. She tried to do 21. I don't know if she made it or not, but we get back to the sorority house, and she gets up. I think someone had laid her down, just said, go to sleep. She gets up and tries to go to the bathroom and walks right into the door frame and broke her nose.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Ooh, ooh, ooh. Eesh. That'll definitely wake you up if you're in a, you know, a drunken sleep.

[Trista Sutter]

It'll sober you up.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, sober you right up. My son was actually. We were in South Carolina, and he was out first. 21st. And he projectile vomited, I guess, across, like, a whole bar of people. Yeah. It was not a good scene, so. Right. Beware of the 21st young listeners.

[Trista Sutter]

Oh, yeah. Stay far away. Stay far, far away.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Did you ever do anything, like, a little torrid, like, you know, right before? Did you ever drink too much? And I know you did because we all did hook up with the wrong guy. Yeah.

[Trista Sutter]

Well, yeah. I mean.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I mean, of course. Yeah. I'm trying to come up with questions because the truth is, we didn't really officially pregame.

[Trista Sutter]

We didn't officially pre game. It's not like it's. It was a thing like we would have when we lived not in our sorority house, but when we lived in, like, a house on campus or off campus, we would have, like. What did we call them? It wasn't pre game drinks, but it was. Gosh, I wish I knew the term. We would have cocktails, like, just before, as we were getting ready.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Trista Sutter]

You know what I mean? So if that's considered pre gaming, then. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Well, one of these kids, they were adults. I shouldn't really say that, but one of them said that his pre gaming started in the shower. He would get like. I don't even know what he was talking about. He was. Somebody was handing him drinks as he was, like, bathing. It's like, well, that's a way to pre game.

[Trista Sutter]

Well, I feel like we did that. Like, my girlfriends and I would, if we were on girls trips. Even to this day, I feel like if we're on a girls trip and we would just have a cocktail, like, we would have someone like, maybe if we're staying at a hotel, have them bring it up to our room while we're getting ready in the bathroom.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Lady, half the people here that I'm talking to have come in with cocktails before. Jingle ball.

[Trista Sutter]

Exactly.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right. They're parading them in front of me. It's actually not very nice. Cause I have gotten nothing that's in. I know they're walking in with scotch and mimosa and everything else.

[Trista Sutter]

I know that's not very nice. They should ask you what you want.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Rude.

[Trista Sutter]

Or you should require it. Hey, if you're gonna walk in this room, you better bring me a drink.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Don't you worry. Somebody was talking about how they try to pre game with espresso martinis because just kind of know that it's gonna. It'll keep you awake. So.

[Trista Sutter]

I don't drink coffee. Or really caffeine, for that matter. So I. Yeah, I. I can't do one of those drinks.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Do you survive without caffeine? Does it give you headaches or something?

[Trista Sutter]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You just don't like it.

[Trista Sutter]

I don't. I'm. It does not go well with my body or my head or anything.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah.

[Trista Sutter]

So I don't. But. But yeah, bring me a Moscow Mule or a glass of wine or something. Although wine tends to like if I'm drinking red, which is my drink, it makes me tired. Yeah. So I want to start with a cocktail. But what is that saying, Liquor before beer, never fear something. Beer before liquor, never sicker. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, we also talked about that. See, look. We are vibing with the youngins. That's.

[Trista Sutter]

Yeah, we know. We know.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

We know. We know better than they do.

[Trista Sutter]

I mean, we've lived too.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I know.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

A lot longer.

[Trista Sutter]

We've lived a lot longer.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I tell my kids that all the time. I know you think that I don't know anything and that I'm just like a big dork, but believe me when I tell you, I'm laughing at you. Okay.

[Trista Sutter]

Exactly. I know. I know these things. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little scared because of what I know. Like, for my 21st birthday, when I did the 19 shots, I actually. I remember this. There was a payphone. If that doesn't age you, what does? Oh, there was a payphone in the bathroom of this, like, bar that we were at. Killer bar.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You did a drunk dialing, didn't you?

[Trista Sutter]

I called my mom on my 21st birthday, Trista. And I was like, Mom, I did 19 shots. You'd be so proud of me. And she was like, what?

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Oh, my God, I can't sleep tonight. Trista, I have to tell you something. It tracks so beautifully that you drunk dial your mom. Like you are that sweet, adorable, all American girl. Like, I was drunk dialing any guy that would pick up the phone. It didn't matter. Please tell me you Love me. And you're like drunk dialing your mom.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Mother.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Just perfect.

[Trista Sutter]

I drink, dial my mom.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

A lucky mom.

[Trista Sutter]

That is so funny.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I've never thought about it. And I'll bet your daughter. I'll bet you're the mother. Your daughter will be doing the same. My daughter wouldn't drunk dial me if I was the last person on earth. She's not stupid because I wouldn't handle it like your mother. You get your ass home right now.

[Trista Sutter]

You can handle it really well.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah.

[Trista Sutter]

Oh, yeah. I would be like, what? I'm coming there right now.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes.

[Trista Sutter]

Tell me where you are.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Thank you.

[Trista Sutter]

By the hair. No, my mom was great.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

She was great, clearly.

[Trista Sutter]

And didn't. Well, at least I don't remember what she said, but.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right. How could you? How could you? All right, lady. Thank you for coming on. We miss you here.

[Trista Sutter]

I know. I tell everyone, hi. Give everyone a hug.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I certainly will be there. I certainly will. Okay, talk soon. Love you.

[Trista Sutter]

Thanks for the chat.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay, bye, everybody. So next we have the beautiful Gabby L. Nikki. Thank you so much for coming on. And you, if I read my notes correctly, went to the University of Mississippi.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I did. I went to Ole Miss, hottie.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wow. What sorority were you in?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I was a PI Fi.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

So I'm sure that most of our listeners know, like, that is the place I think, to go. I went to University of Texas, so, like, those Southern schools and their Greek life. It's huge.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Oh, yeah, it's huge.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

So Ole Miss.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

It's insane, right? It's, like, so intimidating. And I'm from Vermont, so, like, we don't have sororities where I'm from. And when I got to Ole Miss, I was like, oh, my gosh. Is there, like, a group chat? I'm not a part of. Like, I didn't have the recommendation letters. I didn't have anything. It was the most intimidating thing of my life, the whole Rush process.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes. Yeah.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And my Gamma Kai is the one who wrote my recommendation letter and got me into PI Fi. But I didn't want to be a PI Fi at first.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

We have to do this. We honestly, like. Because I love these stories. This is part of what is so wonderful and fascinating to me about Dirty Rush, about our podcast. And it's just that journey is so different for everyone. But we are talking about something a little different today. We are talking about pregaming.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I love it.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

So. And I've had only a couple of guests. Well, two, I want to say, Trista and Bob, who are both a little Older than you. And the three of us were kind of commiserating. Never heard that term when we were younger. Right. So it's new for us. But clearly you went to college and you did a lot of that. Oh, we did, right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Oh, we pregamed hard.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

All right, so tell me a little bit about what that looked like.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Okay, well, first of all, in Oxford, Mississippi, when I went to school there, we. The bars closed at midnight, so you had to start pregaming at, like, 5pm so you, like, got out of class and then you, like, started your pregaming. Okay, so it's a marathon, not a sprint. That's what we always said is it's a marathon, not a sprint. And we never lost a party because we were terrible at football. That season are all the seasons that I went there, actually. And, I mean, we had a party house. We used to call it, like, a frat house. It was a gorgeous frat house. I mean, very nicely decorated, and we kept it clean, but we always threw the big pre games. I was in charge of the music. So you.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You could actually have alcohol at the house.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Well, I didn't live in the sorority house, but we had.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

But you still had. Oh, your house. I'm sorry, I thought you meant a sorority house.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Legally, I maybe wasn't of age every year, but we did have.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You're not alone.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

We did have the alcohol there. Not in the sorority house.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Was.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

We couldn't even have men in the sorority house. And Ms. Simmons considered a brothel, actually, if you have men in your sorority house.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wow.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, it was crazy. But pregaming. I mean, some of the videos I have are probably incriminating. We would be on our countertop. I mean, it was crazy because you couldn't be on elevated surfaces, as you know, in a sorority.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I don't know that. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

We would get sent to stand.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

We didn't even. We didn't have standards.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I'm going to get.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

When I say standards, believe me when I tell you we've been doing this podcast for a minute. Everyone talks about the stuff.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

No, we would get.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I'll get you, like, thrown out of. Well, I guess you're out of your sworn. Anyway.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Am I no longer an alumni? Like, they're going to kick me out of the alumni. No, no, but we would get sent to standards. If you are on elevated services, if you are swearing on your social media, they would, like, comment like, a little, like, angel emoji or like, a heart, and it'd Be like, we're watching you.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And then you get sent to standards. You have the whole panel there. I did get sent to standards.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You did?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yes. Not for, like, dancing on elevated Surfaces. I swore on my Snapchat story once, and I got sent to standards for that, but it was okay.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

You've lived to tell the story.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's. We're. We're here now.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

It's fine. Listen, I mean, I think that pre gaming, from what I. I've been hearing, is, like, kind of like the time to get wild and maybe, like, it's.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Arguably more fun than the party.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, that's. You're not alone in saying that because.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

You choose a music. We used to have a karaoke machine. I mean, we would go so hard. We had Guitar Hero. We had Just Dance. I mean, we were going so hard at the pregame, like, no one wanted to leave, Right? So we go to the bars, and then we have the post game. So then everyone come over after the bars because they closed at midnight. So we would just party at our house after the bars, too. It was so fun. I mean, I wish I could go back.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Did you have, like, a signature drink? I. Look at that look on your face. You totally had a signature drink.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

So dependent on what mood I want to spring out. Like, what alter ego do I want to be tonight?

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Um, I am. People think I'm a psycho. I love gin. I love gin. And I loved it in college. Like, truly, I might be crazy. So, like, if I was feeling really wild, I would do a gin tonic. Otherwise, my drink was Vodka Rebel. Sugar free, always Vodka Rebel. Game days. Vodka Rebel.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Well, a lot of. A lot of our guests have said that, like, an espresso martini is the way to go, because then you get some stamina from that. Right? But I guess a Red Bull, too.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

We didn't have that really, like, back. I don't know. I guess it was, like, eight years ago.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right. They didn't really do that.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

We didn't really do that. So, like, you weren't going to the bar and asking for an espresso martini. I was like, vodka Red Bull, sugar free. Because can't have that much sugar.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And it gives you wings. It really does. That's their.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Like, it gives you wings.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah. Their slogans, like, rebel gives you wings. It truly does.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I got to have one before Jingle Ball tonight.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

You should. I mean, you forget Red Bull exists. I think.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I never.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Then you try one. You're like, this is actually exactly what I needed. Vodka in there. You're. You're so good.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Did you ever not make it to the game game? Because the pre game got two.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Absolutely not out of control. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wow.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Girl get there. You just have to rally.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Give us a little. A little bit of the specifics of that. So you. Did you pace yourself? Did you know going in only have one an hour only.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

It's more just like, just you can like sleep when you're dead. Like, just get with it. Like really, it's just like you have your girls and it's like, okay, you're like a little drunk. Okay.

[Trista Sutter]

It's fine.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Just like have a water or just have the Red Bull. Maybe no vodka. And then you're like, good. I mean, I always made it to the event.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I feel proud of you, strangely. I don't know what that's about, but, like, I don't know. I'm proud of you that you could just keep drinking for hours.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Well, I think you just become so conditioned when you're at an SEC school from like game days because they start at 7am so.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

You start pregaming at 7am you have your chick fil A and you've got a mimosa and you start. And then you just. I don't know, you just kind of figure it out. I mean, I guess you learn your little.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I want to go to Ole Miss.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Ole Miss was actually the most fun time. You talk about a pre game. Like, you should go to a pre game there actually, like the growth.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I'm trying to think how I'm going to justify that to just show up at a pre game somewhere at all.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Let's just.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Please, Please.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

No, it's so. It's so fun. If there's one college town you should go to, it is Oxford. They call it the Velvet ditch because it's in the middle of Mississippi. And like, Mississippi's not really that gorgeous. Maybe the coast, but it's this beautiful town in the middle of like, nothing.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wow.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And it's so great.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I mean, I love Texas.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I loved Austin, and my fiance's brother played football at Texas. Wow. Actually, yeah. Save over $200 when you book weekly stays with VRBO this winter. If you need to work, why not work from a chalet? If you haven't seen your college besties since, well, college, you need a week to fully catch up in a snowy cabin. And if you have to stay in.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

A remote place with your in laws.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

You should save over $200 a week. That's the least we can do. So you might as well start digging out the long johns because saving over $200 on a week long snowcation rental is in the cards book [e-mail] before.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

All the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more. Well, fun. But here's a confession Dirty Rush listeners, you can find that fun feeling again on ebay. It's not mindless scrolling, it's a fashion pursuit. I love using filters for condition and price saving searches and spotting verified listings. It makes shopping feel smart and exciting again. And when you score that rare Adidas Collab or that Dior saddlebag you've been manifesting, it's a rush. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay's authenticity guarantee. Ebay Things People Love did you know?

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop voted PCMag's Reader's Choice Top Laptop for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere and Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit lgusa.com iheart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag reader's choice used with permission. All rights reserved. Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's just a regular guy.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

People never believe me when I say I'm just like them. I take out the trash, do dishes and I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea or osa. And a lot of adults with obesity also struggle with moderate to severe osa.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

You know those scary breathing interruptions during.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Sleep, the loud snoring, choking and daytime fatigue.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

I knew I had to talk to my doctor.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Don't sleep on the symptoms. Learn more at don'tsleeponosa.com this information is.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Provided by Lilly, a medicine company. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like EFTs with infinite possibilities Completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member finra. SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wait, you're engaged? Sorry, guys. We're gonna go back to pre. Look at you. We sort of have the same ring.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Wait, really?

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Oh, my God, I love it. Gorgeous. Okay, sorry. Let's focus.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, I know.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

All right, so pregaming. Was there any particular music that you guys love during pregaming?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Bring up my Spotify.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah, I mean.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I mean, I was listening to my. My college pregame playlist on the way.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Oh, okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I drove up from Newport this morning, and I actually was listening to my college pregame.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Please tell us and what's on it.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

A lot of rap, but, like, also edm. My.

[Trista Sutter]

My friends.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I'm sorry. Like, just. Is that the electric.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Electric dance music.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Got it. Okay, okay, okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I mean, that's just what rolled off the tongue. I think that is what it is.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

But, like, not, like, aggressive. Like, not like Skrillex. Like, wow. Like, not too much.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

But, like, fun remixes. We love this thing called Big Booty Mix. There was one version of Big Booty Mix we would listen to, and it's basically a mashup of every banger song that you love, and they put it into this mix that's like, the best mix ever. And honestly, that's what will keep you going. Can you send it to me? Yeah, I will. They have so many volumes of it.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I mean, I don't know, but I feel cool just having it.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, it's on SoundCloud. It is not a big deal.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay. I could just get it.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, I mean, SoundCloud's like, I feel, like, kind of under the radar.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I don't know what. Soundcloud.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Soundcloud was big. When we were in college, it was, like, where you could find, like, remixes that weren't actually released. But people really thought it was, like, so good on Ox, but really was Big Booty Mix.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

All right, what about I'm a fraud.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I'm actually a fraud.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I'm again, all this way over. Way over my head about this. Maybe I'll. I'll be able to relate to this. Did you eat it pre gaming? Was there always food just to make sure you were coating your stomach or. No.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Okay. We had girl dinner, which was obviously buttered noodles with a little bit of parm.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Not obviously. Really? I don't know. I never. Okay, so you just wanted to get the carbs in.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

So Fridays at the sorority house were called fried Fridays.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

So we would go and get fried Fridays and we would load up, like to go boxes with like fried Mac and cheese bites, curly fries, like the most disgusting stuff ever. But like when you came home from the bar, it was not disgusting. I mean, we were like cooking it up. I also used to make this stuff called drunk pasta. I call it my drunk pasta. I mean, it was fire when I made it. I made it for my parents once.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Well, what is it?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Think so, honestly, I couldn't even tell you. It was some sort of like fettuccine Alfredo nonsense. But I made it from scratch. Like I was like, like cooking up a roux.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Wow.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And then like, it was. It was ridiculous.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Did you. Was it all for afterwards or were you trying to coat your stomach before?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

That was all. After.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Okay.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Before we would just do buttered noodles. Something light, but some carbs.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

So you feel a little bit full, but like you're not actually full.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Were you pregaming? Were you always pregaming with the guys? Was it ever just girls?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

No, it was usually just girls.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

It was really.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, we were like girl gang.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

That's so interesting because I know for my daughter it was always like pre gaming. Well, maybe it wasn't. Maybe she was going over to friends apartments and stuff.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, just like always the girls. Unless it was a formal or like a mixer or something like that. Then we would pregame with the guys, but. Or like if somebody had like a boyfriend, they would come. Sure.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

It was always the girls. And then the guys would meet us at the bar and then afterwards we would collectively go to like one person's house or the other.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Do you think it was to talk to. Okay, I'm getting. There's been a lot of talking about pre gaming today, but do you think that part of the pregame, the purpose of it is to take the edge off because you are going to go hang out with the guys and just to sort of like, loosen up a little bit?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Yeah, I mean, definitely.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Right. Like you don't want to go somewhere stone cold sober? I mean, if I had to go to a bar sober, oh my God, no, I wouldn't do it today. And I wouldn't have done it then, I bet. I mean, I guess I would have if I was, like, sick or something. I'm not going to miss the party, but it's just not as fun. It's so loud. People are bumping into you.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

And girl, I think you give. This is. These tips are invaluable. I need. I. I think I've actually gotten unbelievable tips. Unfortunately, I'm 57 years old and probably not getting invited to a pre game anytime soon. Thank you. But I feel like you guys need to write a manual.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I know. It's true. Honestly. Yeah. Like, what to do 1.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Right. What to do for the pre. Pregame.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

The masterclass starts now.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Amen. Okay. I love it.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I'm going to make a TED Talk, actually.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I think it's brilliant. I think it's the most interesting subject I've ever heard. It's true.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I feel like people don't know.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

They don't. And they need to. It's not right.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

And also, like, even just mixology in general.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Like, you can have a nice drink and it can be cheap.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Really?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

College kids.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yeah. Like what?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Vodka Rebel. Yeah. It's not that expensive.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

It's not?

[Gabby L. Nikki]

No.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Well, I gotta go now. I got things to do. I gotta. I gotta head over. I gotta go to 7:11.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

Gotta go mix it up.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Yes, baby. Thank you for coming in.

[Trista Sutter]

Thanks for having me.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Have the best. I have a feeling you are gonna have the best time at Jingle Ball.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I hope so.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

I'm not at all.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

I mean, I'm worried about it pre game, but.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

That's my girl. All right, we'll talk soon. Thank you. Thanks. Gabby.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Did you know Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop? Voted PCMag's Reader's Choice. Top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere. And Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit LGUSA.com iheartra for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag reader's choice. Used with permission. All rights reserved. This time of year, most of us are checking off our holiday gift lists. But identity thieves have lists, too, and your personal information might be on them. Protect your identity with LifeLock. LifeLock monitors millions of data points every second and alerts you to threats you could miss. If your identity is stolen, LifeLock will fix it, guaranteed, or your money back. Make this season about joy, not Identity theft. With LifeLock. Save up to 40% your first year at LifeLock.com iHeart Terms apply at CVS.

[Trista Sutter]

It matters that we're not just in.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Your community, but that we're part of it. It matters that we're there for you when you need us, day or night, and we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded. It matters that CVS is here to fill your prescriptions and here to fill your craving for a tasty and yeah, healthy snack. At cvs, we're proud to serve your community because we believe where you get your medicine matters. So Visit [e-mail] or just come by our store. We can't wait to meet you. Store hours vary by location.

[Sponsor/Advertisement Voice]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets. Assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like EFTs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures this.

[Host (possibly Daisy Kent)]

Is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snore loudly, or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at. Don't sleep on OSA.com this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company.

[Gabby L. Nikki]

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human.