Besos! Opa! (RHOSLC Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge – Episode: "Besos! Opa! (RHOSLC Recap)"

Release Date: January 24, 2025
Host: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Producer: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Personal Updates and Anecdotes

[02:20] Tamra Judge
Tamra kicks off the episode by sharing her recent challenges with their camper, affectionately dubbed "Camperland." She recounts struggling with non-functional hot water, leading her to seek help from her friend Lexi and her husband Angel. Tamra humorously remarks, "I may need one after this camper experience."

[04:04] Teddi Mellencamp
Teddi opens up about a tough week, mentioning a late-night therapy session that left her emotionally drained. She shares, "I had a really... I had a late night therapy session and I was even crying all the way home." Teddi also touches on her hectic schedule, including a canceled cruise booking, expressing her regret to listeners who were looking forward to her participation.

2. Recap of RHOSLC Reunion

a. Seating Chart and Fashion Choices

[10:00] Teddi Mellencamp
Teddi and Tamra delve into the seating arrangements of the RHOSLC reunion. Teddi expresses surprise at Whitney being seated at the end, stating, "It's easier... I was expecting that." Tamra contrasts this by highlighting the fashion, noting, "She's on the end and Bronwyn has this big giant dress. You can see Whitney, like."

[10:48] Tamra Judge
Tamra critiques Britney’s dress, saying, "It was a no for me," while praising Bronwyn's attire. Teddi adds, "I love Bronwyn's dress. She really pulled it off."

b. Drama Between Cast Members

[15:00] Teddi Mellencamp
The hosts discuss the escalating tensions during the reunion, particularly focusing on interactions between Angie, Lisa, and Bronwyn. Teddi notes, "Not yet," indicating that certain conflicts are still unfolding.

[21:17] Tamra Judge
Tamra addresses the mounting drama, saying, "I am staying on Angie's good side because I'm going to see her today as well."

c. Specific Incidents and Controversies

[12:02] Teddi Mellencamp
A significant point of discussion is the gifting of a necklace. Teddi shares, "I think you commented on it, and... but what I did get was a big box of these gummies, and it was addressed to Teddy Mellencamp."

[16:03] Teddi Mellencamp
The conversation shifts to Lisa’s alleged involvement with a jewelry purchase. Teddi questions the authenticity, "Has anybody looked at Emma's Instagram? Because I feel like there's got to be a message or a story out there about this because she clearly lost her job and all credibility from any so customers."

[25:50] Tamra Judge
Tamra probes the depth of Lisa and Bronwyn’s friendship, asking, "Do you think Lisa and Bronwyn were like social friends or acquaintances?"

[31:02] Teddi Mellencamp
Teddi discusses the removal of sensitive footage, stating, "They filmed the full season and there was a flashback scene, unseen footage of Lisa and Bronwyn talking about that subject."

d. Relationships and Personal Growth

[24:12] Tamra Judge
Tamra reflects on financial struggles, asking, "If I go broke, are you gonna have an issue with me?" Teddi responds empathetically, "Like, my son needs help. Spencer needs help."

[34:11] Teddi Mellencamp
The hosts touch upon the relationships of Bronwyn and Todd, with Teddi noting, "Especially the round table essentially isn't really to get information. It's just like, we're gonna say hi to everybody."

3. Fan Reactions and Insights

[37:05] Teddi Mellencamp
Teddi shares fan thoughts, highlighting issues like Lisa’s lack of responsiveness and inconsistent business promotions. She questions, "Why does Lisa get to advertise all her businesses but the other housewives can?"

[37:22] Tamra Judge
Tamra echoes these sentiments, adding, "But I feel like every event was vita, tequila and real, and this person really wants Whitney and Lisa to be friends again."

4. Final Thoughts and Conclusions

In wrapping up the episode, Teddi and Tamra reflect on the complexities and ongoing drama of the RHOSLC reunion. They emphasize the importance of understanding the behind-the-scenes dynamics and express anticipation for future developments in the show.

[36:00] Teddi Mellencamp
Teddi muses, "I think the show is so much better without Jen Shaw. I mean, this show just continues to get better every season."

[36:13] Teddi Mellencamp
Looking ahead, Teddi comments, "There’s three. I wonder if the husband. The husbands can't be done, right?" hinting at more drama involving the spouses.

5. Notable Quotes

• Tamra Judge at [02:38]: "I may need one after this camper experience."
• Teddi Mellencamp at [04:33]: "It's been a very exhausting week."
• Tamra Judge at [10:48]: "It was a no for me."
• Teddi Mellencamp at [12:02]: "I think you commented on it..."
• Tamra Judge at [25:50]: "Do you think Lisa and Bronwyn were like social friends or acquaintances?"
• Teddi Mellencamp at [37:05]: "Why does Lisa get to advertise all her businesses but the other housewives can?"

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Conclusion

In this comprehensive recap of the RHOSLC reunion, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge navigate through personal anecdotes, in-depth analysis of cast dynamics, and fan perspectives. Their candid conversations shed light on the intricate relationships and behind-the-scenes tensions that make the Real Housewives series so compelling. For listeners who missed the episode, this summary provides a thorough overview of the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn by the Two Ts in a Pod.

Transcript

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with me and this one, this B.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How are you?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I'm all right. I Checked into the camper.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought you're gonna say I checked into the mental health facility. I mean, pretty much.

[Tamara Judge]

I may need one after this camper experience. Last night we could not get the hot water working. I had to text my friend Lexi and her husband angel, who also stay. We call it Camperland. And I'm like, I know it's 8:30 at night and this is the last thing you want me to deal with, but like, my daughter just came from a soccer game and needs to shower. Like, we can't live in these close quarters without her taking a shower.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes. There's a, there's an avid camper. There's a lot of buttons to push to turn the water pump on and do all that stuff. So if you'd in the generator and all that, so. And you don't know what you're doing.

[Tamara Judge]

All the things like, here's. I grew up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You shouldn't have to deal with the poop hose.

[Tamara Judge]

No, the guy did it. But Lexi tried me when they got here, they're like, is your poop hose hooked up? And I was like, I don't, I don't know that answer. But like, I really would hope so if I paid someone to come set this thing up. But it's like significantly cheaper to stay in a camper than rent a house in La Quinta. And we're here a bajillion hours of the day and I can pod from here, so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, you're in it too. You're at the, you're at, you're at the area that you need to be at.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what I mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, it's easier.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like just get out and then. Right. You're. Are you camping? I'm, I'm assuming you're camping at the horse stables or.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's, It's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's a 20 minute arena.

[Tamara Judge]

Somebody let me borrow their golf cart.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So slate has a 20 minute walk.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but. But it takes five minutes in the golf cart. But I ran it this morning and I was like, okay, this would take me a minute to walk. So then I sent like a group text to my horse friends. I'm like, does anyone have an extra golf cart? It's. That's going to be a little bit of a. A long walk to go see Slate every time she shows.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I literally Woke up at 8:00 today.

[Tamara Judge]

What? Were you medicated? How did this happen?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I, I don't know. I had a really. I had a late night therapy session and I was even crying all the way Home. Got home. Eddie's like, what's wrong? And I started telling him, and, you know, and then I got into the sauna and. And I stayed in the sauna for, like, 45 minutes and then went to bed after that. And I think I was just so mentally physically exhausted. It's been a very exhausting week. So.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Feel better today, though.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, that's good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I just got back from the. I just got back from the gym. I. We never go to the gym that late, but we did.

[Tamara Judge]

Well.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I did it. I got her done.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, now we're going to talk Salt Lake City, where a lot of people got a lot of talking over each other done. That is. I mean, I think that cast may talk over each other more than anyone else. Is that right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. Poor Andy.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That they had to have safe words.

[Tamara Judge]

But the safe words did not work.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They did not work. Between that and the rug placement, how.

[Tamara Judge]

I did not notice this at all. All I noticed was really the how better dressed New York was than Salt Lake City. That's one thing that I noticed. And then at their reunion, and then the other thing that I noticed was Angie. Oh, my God. I'm gonna see Angie today. She's here at the horse show. I need to. I need to shoot her a text. But could you imagine Angie showing up to the reunion and having the same dress as Brittany, who. She said, hi. Head count, hair. I can't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hair count. Haircut. Body count. It's high body count. This is the thing that's. But how would that happen? You know how this works. You send production pixes, they come and pick our dresses up beforehand. So it's weird that that would happen. Unless they don't do that with the friends.

[Tamara Judge]

The other weird thing was that. Are you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are we keeping you up?

[Tamara Judge]

I slept in a bunk. Slate is in the big room. I slept in a little, tiny bunk that has, like. I'm so particular with, like, light. If light is shining on me when I'm trying to sleep, and there's, like, a little plug and there's a little green light. And all night I was, like, trying to push, like, this water bottle, like, up against it so it wouldn't see it against it. And then I had. I was going through the different stages of hypothermia because I think that must be why I'm so red. I was so freaking cold last night because the way the heat. Sorry. We'll get back to Salt Lake City after I quit bitching. We will, but the way the Heat works in this camper is it heats up one of the rooms, but not the other room. So, like, Slate was in a full blown sweat and she's like, mom, I can't have the heat on. And so, you know, I took one for the team, not realizing that, you know, I would wake up two and a half hours later in like the third phase of hypothermia. Like, it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God, was freezing. Lovely. I liked my 10 hours of sleep last night, but today's been. This whole week's been kind of rough and my schedule's so hard and to start filming coming up, I'm like, how the hell am I going to fit all this in? And then I, I think I told you I had. I was booked to do a cruise with Phaedra and the girls and didn't realize there was a. I already had something else booked. So then I had to back out of that. And that's never easy to do. So I. For those of you that are like, where's Tamara? I had to back out. So sorry, guys. But they all, they do, they do want to book me on another cruise. So we'll. We'll see what happens. So there's lots of lovely ladies going. If you go to Cynthia's page, you can buy tickets for this cruise. And I'll be jealous when I see all the pictures of them having fun, but a great group of girls.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it'll be fun. I mean, it would be. Everything's more fun with Tam, but like, it'll be fun regardless.

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[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so let's get into Salt Lake City. The seating chart, was it surprising to you at all? To me? No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. Well, I think it was surprising because Whitney was on the end. I wasn't expecting that. And then she's like. Because she's on the end and Bronwyn has this big giant dress. You can see Whitney, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, over here. Like, she turned in. The ruffle would go in her face. I'm like, just. It didn't. They probably should have put Robin on the end just so her dress outfit worked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't happen.

[Tamara Judge]

But I think that Bravo did us a disservice by not actually showing us Britney and I would have loved the same dress.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. I think it would have been great to have her come out. Angie went from a bench warming bitch to first seat.

[Tamara Judge]

First seat. And she looked hot. And you know the thing that sucks for Britney is her other dress. It was a no for me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it wasn't my favorite. It wasn't my favorite. I love, loved Bronwyn's dress. She really pulled it off. It was big. But it also can kind of pull.

[Tamara Judge]

Off all these looks. And she's also very comfortable in what she's wearing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How she. Her hair was really short behind her ears. I love that. I sent her a tag. A dm. I'm like, you look beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I sent her a different text. That's nice that you did that. I sent her text that said.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, what. What did it say? Basically, it implied.

[Tamara Judge]

I said, hey, thank you so much for the passport cover, because mine, ARR.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Jurors, I did not get a passport cover. I didn't get a. A dm.

[Tamara Judge]

I. Because we commented on it on the pod and I tagged her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think you commented on it, and.

[Tamara Judge]

So she sent it to me, and it's beautiful, and I think it's expensive. Like, loved it. I'll tag when I get out of my camper life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But what I did get was a big box of these gummies, and it was addressed to Teddy Mellencamp. And I had no problem opening the box and putting them in my pantry.

[Tamara Judge]

What kind of gummies? That's rude.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what kind they are? The. The ones that you take all the time. The little green ones.

[Tamara Judge]

My gosh. My grooms.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep, grooms.

[Tamara Judge]

My grooms, me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know, we're not the type that borrow clothes and return them. We borrow. If I borrow something from yours. It's mine. It's mine.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, what if they actually accidentally send it to your address? Because I gave it once to be nice so they would send you some.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, they send it to me. It's great. We love them. Yeah. You know, if Teddy's like, hey, can I brought some necklaces? Sure. I know I will never see them back, especially my tea necklace.

[Tamara Judge]

Your tea necklace? You're never getting back, because I don't even know where it is at this point. But then after I said thank you for the passport photo, I said, could you do me a solid and send me a photo of you and the necklace? Because I'd really like to have your back on this pod right now. Granted. We'll get into this later.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you get a response? Yeah, well, there's been some. We'll get into it, but there's been some conflicting stories about the necklace in the area. It was the earrings, too, in a necklace?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Oh, so she hasn't seen it yet, so maybe that's why she hasn't responded. So, Bronwyn, just so, you know, like, boots on the ground, like, if I send you a message, it's because we're podcasting the next day, and, like, I'm not, you know, I'm not around, and she's really what I need.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's very worried about your podcast schedule. I'm sure.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sure she'd really be thrilled to show a little proof that she has the necklace if she had the opportunity.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, she was on Watch what Happens Live, and I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was something like she had a smaller necklace made because Todd thought the other necklace was a little. These aren't her words, but gaudy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, that's what she said on the reunion, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What were your thoughts on Mary's dress sitting down?

[Tamara Judge]

I. It wasn't necessarily the dress I thought was pretty, but, like, she's sitting the same way you and I sit during the pod with, like, she's, like, hunched over and, like, casual and, like, legs up. Like, I'm like, maybe we should. Let's work on the posture for a second.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel like the whole next section made her. It kind of made her look like Iron Man. Well, I would.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to see her sitting upright, and then I can make a bigger decision. It. I don't know if the necklace was pushing up, and that's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think when you, you know, outfits are different sitting down versus standing up, and I think it looked really great standing up. Beautiful. Sitting down. I felt like it pushed up, and it was just, like, under her chin.

[Tamara Judge]

That must have been so uncomfortable. I can't even stand it if I feel, like, a random piece of hair, like, touching my neck. Unplanned, but okay. So then we get to. Andy comes up with a safe word for Angie and Lisa if they start fighting Bezos and Opa. Andy asked what their intention for the day is. Bronwyn says she'll start with her own apologies and hopefully get some. Whitney says she wants to get to the root of the problems with Lisa. I don't think that happened so far.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Then, okay, Whitney, we maybe should have had this planned out a little bit better, but. Whitney says the photo on Alibaba was a placeholder from her vendor. Andy asks Lisa if she found any evidence. Lisa says Whitney never gave her proof of her involvement. And honestly, I, I, I would be happy with Meredith saying alibaba, Alibaba as my new ringtone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It allegedly, I hear that Alibaba takes pictures of other people's stuff and puts them on their website. I don't know if that's true, but to say it's a placeholder, does that mean it's a placeholder from the manufacturer, so it could be the same?

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I mean. That's what I don't know. I do think it doesn't matter. Like, it's affordable jewelry. That's cute, and wherever she gets it, she gets it. But the part that I want to know is when she got the tattoo to match it, did she get the tattoo to match it when she had the placeholder on the Internet, or did she get the tattoo to match it before the reunion?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I didn't notice it. I didn't notice it this season, but I wasn't really looking for it.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but didn't it make you. She's like, well, I mean, would I have gotten this tattoo of the exact necklace replica? But by the way, I don't think it was the same necklace, because the necklace that were in question, it looked like one of those, like, astrological signs.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And was it more like a. I thought it looked more.

[Tamara Judge]

It was like a circle pendant with, like, something on it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was. It was so hard to tell either way. Like, she branded herself. She branded herself with her truth. And.

[Tamara Judge]

The other day, she made me laugh because I think she was on a cruise or something, and she said, this is part of my healing journey. She actually wrote it healing. And I was like, oh, I had to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I had to send it To Kaden. I go, wait, did she spell it wrong? Like, is she serious? And he goes, no, it's a joke.

[Tamara Judge]

And it's a joke on her helicopter joke.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I get it. She looks high.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, looks?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. I can't remember all the things, Teddy.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Andy asks Angie if she feels like Heather prioritizes her friendship with Lisa over their friendship. Angie says Heather twisted her words. Lisa and Angie argue back and forth, and Andy yells, bezos opa didn't work. And then Lisa says she told Bronwyn she was going to address things with Angie. Bronwyn shakes her head in disagreement. And then Lisa asked Bronwan if she wants to be involved and claps. She's piping up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was like, I did that. You did that last season when somebody was. I'm like, yay.

[Tamara Judge]

But the part that that didn't work. I mean, I don't know who you. Who you said that to, because I can't remember that moment. But, like, Bronwyn hasn't been quiet this entire season, so I don't know why we would act like her. Making a comment like Lisa brought her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

In the least quiet on the show. Not even like, five minutes into the reunion, it's like all hell has broke loose. Like these girls.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, like, Lisa brought her and Lisa brought up her name, so why wouldn't she comment? I was like, what the force?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wait, who said, do you want to go big with me? I can go big too. Was it Bronwyn?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was Bronwyn. It was Bronwyn.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was shocked that they Todd. I was shocked that they brought the guys out so quickly. I mean, the guys came out before Brittany came out.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I. I know. Like, Brittany should have said in the fan if the guys are getting brought out before you. But then Andy, before the guys come out, Andy asked Angie about her parts city mystery man. Who pays for Lisa's lip filler tweet. Angie says she fired back because Meredith was posting that she was a backup dancer to Jen Shaw and that only scroll she reads and the is the Torah. To which Lisa replied, mazel tov. Meredith says Angie did a WAP video with Jen and Monica. Angie says she is nobody's backup dancer. Andy asks Angie why she tweeted Lisa's G wagon was repossessed. Heather says Angie told her that Bronwyn was the one who told her. I like that Angie left out. Who told her. I didn't let me did.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Have you seen the video? The music video also do.

[Tamara Judge]

Does I have. I Mean, I watched the clip of it, but I'm curious, does it count as a music video if it's tick tock?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't. It was a little bit like, am.

[Tamara Judge]

I say that I'm a music video star?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, yes, you can, because you're John Mellencamp's daughter, obviously. No, but. But it was. It looked like it was professionally done. I mean, it wasn't just a tick tock. No, Yeah, I watched the whole thing. I mean, it was a big production. I mean, talk, but it was a big production. I mean, if you watch the whole video, you're like, damn. And when was this video done? Was it before Angie ever was on the show? Like, way back when?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah, because I don't think Angie was on when Jen was on ever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was done. Oh, it was recorded season two.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So it's before Angie.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So what does backup dancer really mean? Because Angie was losing it.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she was trying to say, like, your. Your second string, your bench warmer. Yeah. And I think that that obviously is, like, a trigger for Angie, but I was like, angie, this isn't the fight to happen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Meredith has implied that Angie has tried to get cast through multiple girls. So maybe she's insinuating that because the video with Jen Shaw.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, maybe that is the case. But, Meredith, you're in the third seat, and Angie's in the first, so. And you're wearing a shawl.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sit down.

[Tamara Judge]

Just the little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was a little mother of the bride.

[Tamara Judge]

It was.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And she sent her snowflake too.

[Tamara Judge]

Angie. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Andrew, she had a big grow up on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then, like, we've seen Angie's texts and we've seen Angie's tweets. And you know what? At this point, I'm staying on Angie's good side because I'm going to see her today as well.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So don't piss her off.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I'm not with Angie right now.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She will tweet some shit about you.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, I. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna actually text her and be like, do you have a pair of goggles that I can wear for the horse show today? My skin is red. I'm sweating, or I'm freezing in this camper. Like, I need to amp myself up. But, yeah, no, I don't want to piss. I don't want to piss her off. I'm not interested. Then Andy asked Bronwyn why she isn't wearing the $4 million necklace, one that would have been ridiculous with her outfit. Let's be fair.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Bronwyn says she bought a smaller version of it along with some hoop earrings. Lisa says that a worker at the jeweler, Emma, told her that nothing was purchased. The woman question how Lisa knows this? Lisa says Emma texted her. The text says Bronwyn returned the hoops. And Emma feels burned by Bronwyn. No matter what happened, we just watched Emma get fired on national tv.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I was going to say, has anybody looked at Emma's Instagram? Because I feel like there's got to be a. A message or a story out there about this because she clearly lost her job and all credibility from any so customers.

[Tamara Judge]

Also, like, at the end of the day, like, all their discussion about money stuff is so. Gives me such the yuck. Like, yeah, like between, you know, Lisa talking about that her. She has a G wagon and a blah blah, blah and a blah blah, blah coming in. And then she didn't actually buy the form.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But they give Lisa a lot of. Let's not forget how Whitney had her tags hanging out of her clothes when they had the Lisa party. It's. She's known for name dropping and.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but I have a question. Like, do you like, I mean, hypothetically speaking, but probably reality. If I go broke, are you gonna have an issue with me?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

So, like, what does it matter? Like if, like, let's say something got repossessed by me? Like, are you really be furious at me?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, clearly I would feel bad. Like, yeah, that's. I. That's the worst for me. Like, when someone's going through financial stuff, like, I always want to give them money or help out. Like, it's not. It's not night. It's not good for me to see people lose money or not have money. I don't have that value. I don't put that much value on money, if you know what I mean. Like, I don't take my money and just. I'd rather help somebody out than buy all designer clothes and my money. I'm like, no. Like, my son needs help. Spencer needs help. He's struggling. Just got out of college, just got his first big boy job. Like, he will call me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And he's like, mom, I only have 15 in my bank. I swear I'll pay you back. And I'm like, dude, you don't have to pay me back. You just got out of college. Like, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, then Andy asked Bronwyn if it was disappointing to have Lisa turn on her coming on as her friend. This actually really made sense to me. Even when Whitney piped in and said, like, you know, you weren't really there for me. Even Bronwyn to her made. So, like, I really thought that me and Lisa were close. So I was going to do anything to fix what I thought.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Lisa and Bronwyn. Well, this is my. My question to you. Do you think Lisa and Bronwyn were like social friends or acquaintances? Do you think they were really that good of friends? Because how would she not know anything about Gwen's father until she sees a picture? I mean, how good of friends were they?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, but I'm assuming she thought that because, like, for example, because Dorit brought me on to Beverly Hills.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I didn't know that.

[Tamara Judge]

I never met her in my life. Are you kidding?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I brought Heather on and had never known her in my life.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So he brought me on. I like, we would have multiple arguments, like, because then when we got into fighting where she'd be like, I brought you on the show. I'm like, I never met you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's delusional.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But I think there is a little bit of when you are brought on through somebody, like, you know, that's the person you protect.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Loyalty. But that's not always the case. I just feel like they maybe have known each other, but I don't feel like they were very. You should ask. Ask Bronwyn when she responds to you.

[Tamara Judge]

That will be my next question. You know what? I'll get you guys next week. And like, Bronwyn, check your DMs a little quicker. Thank you so much. Then Bronwyn continues on saying she felt like she was chasing Lisa the entire season. And then she's like, maybe she was just a social friend. And then I expected Lisa to be, like, somewhat kind about it. She's like, you know what? No, that's actually just all you are to me, the social friend. And I was like. And then that's where we get into. Whitney questions Bronwyn why she won't claim her publicly as a friend. And Bronwyn says she placed Lisa on a higher pedestal. Why does Heather Gay always say sing for my supper?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've never heard that before. That was the first time I heard that. And by the way, she looked so good, Heather.

[Tamara Judge]

She looked so good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So good.

[Tamara Judge]

She had no voice again. She had laryngitis again, just like her confession.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And she said that it's because she's been on a book tour and has to talk a lot. And I get that. But she had. She had the best glow up. I've Ever seen on a housewife?

[Tamara Judge]

No. She looked amazing. Then Andy did some fan questions or comments and a fan wrote in claiming that Heather weight loss is the reason she has an edge this season and giving mean girl energy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't agree with that.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't either. I thought Heather was terrible to me. Not terrible to me, but hard for me to watch last season. And I am loving her this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think she's meaner at all. I think she's more confident and that might piss people off, but I don't think she's meant.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I enjoy what I. I didn't. I gotta say, when Jen Shaw was on with Heather, I did not enjoy watching her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. No. Well, the show is so much better without Jen Shaw. I mean, this show just continues to get better every season.

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[Tamara Judge]

And then what I found interesting is remember like, Mary used to have all these issues with Heather and say these like, kind of inappropriate things. Mary goes to pipe in and I'm like, no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But like she was in bread.

[Tamara Judge]

Nice. Yeah, yeah. Mary says Heather is pouring more love into herself now and is more self assured.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I agree with. I agree with Mary.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Andy asked Bronwyn if she had intended to share the history with Gwen's father and grandparents on the show. This started to blow my mind because I didn't watch. We didn't watch the after show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But did you. Did it confuse you a little bit?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Because what Lisa Said was. She's like, oh, well, the after show happened before this aired. I'm like, but it didn't happen after you. It happened after you filmed.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, she said it happened. She told Andy, we. We record these after shows before the show even airs. No. Yeah, right.

[Tamara Judge]

Before the show airs. But they had already filmed the full season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They filmed the full season and there was a flashback scene, unseen footage of Lisa and Bronwyn talking about that subject.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And so this is my problem. It's like, why is it Lisa's fault? She didn't know that that scene was going to be taken out. So she, you know, she filmed the after show prior to the season airing and Lisa had no idea. Bronnan requested that footage to be removed. So for me, that's more of a production issue. Somebody didn't know that that footage was going to be removed. Was this. Did I hear this was removed out of the after show?

[Tamara Judge]

I also want to know what Bronwyn.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, they did. They ended up pulling it from the after show. But it was already out there.

[Tamara Judge]

How Bronwyn had the capability to ask them to remove something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think it is because it's a sensitive subject about her daughter. I think that's why they were, you know, they did it for her. And I understand that.

[Tamara Judge]

I get it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But Bronwyn. Bronwyn admitted that she hadn't even shown a picture to her own husband in 10 years of Gwen's dad. But if she hadn't even shown Todd the picture, why was she so willing to show Lisa the picture off camera?

[Tamara Judge]

I am not sure. But also what I kept thinking of is if Bronwyn is just this social, casual friend of Lisa's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

How close could Lisa be with Gwen's father's parents?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think that's two separate situations where she's known this family. But she had no idea that their son, who they lost, which is Gwen's dad, was this couple's son. They had no idea. They. That's how they put two and two together off camera. By, if I'm remember this correctly, by Bronwyn showing Lisa a picture of the father of Gwen. And she went, oh, my God, I've seen pictures of him on the walls at, you know, my friend's house.

[Tamara Judge]

But either way it's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I felt like, you know, social media really gave it to Lisa. Like, you need to just say you're sorry. You won't admit it. And I understand what she was fighting for. Like, we filmed a scene. I was asked about it at the after show. Like, I. I didn't know she was getting so frustrated. And people are like, just apologize. Just apologize. And she wouldn't.

[Tamara Judge]

No, she's not a big apologizer. But I did. I was like, it wasn't really great all around this, all of this. But I think that's what happens when things happen off camera and then they removed from the show. So we don't really get to see it until after the fact. The husbands join the wives, and Bronwyn and Todd agree that their relationship has become stronger after watching the season. I'm sorry, Bronwyn, but this made me worry about you even more. The scene when you talked about Todd, when you guys were in. Wherever you were on vacation.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What. What part? I. I thought that that was sweet that they said after. Because sometimes, you know, you watch yourself on TV and you make changes. And I thought that's what they were getting at.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that's what they were trying to get us to believe. I think. What.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you're not believing it is what you're saying.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Bronwyn, Yes. Has probably made changes in the way she's spoken to Todd because Todd's demanded it. I don't think Todd has made one change.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, Todd says that he's been blunt and he has been working on it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I. I didn't like one bit of it. And I think when you looked around at the other women, they were all like. Like, I don't know, just even the way.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think after the entire season, it's hard to believe. Like, we need actions. We don't just need words.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Bronwyn says it came across that she was making jokes at Todd and her marriage. Bad. Her marriage's expense. Todd says he can be blunt and working on it. Todd says that bringing up personal. This. I agreed with Todd. Todd says bringing up personal issues with Gwen was unacceptable. And John says Lisa wasn't the one who brought it up on camera. And then Todd saying, watch your tone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I didn't feel like his tone was bad, John. Yeah. I didn't think John's tone was bad.

[Tamara Judge]

John was telling Todd to watch his tone, and I thought his tone was bad. Oh. Talking to his wife.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then it went back the other way. I mean, they went back and forth on this. Now you watch your tone.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But either way, I didn't. I mean, I'm not sure John could really have a tone that I would feel worried about. When they made fun of John's parallel parking, I was like, this is a little piece of heaven right here. I loved it. I know, because, I mean, granted, I can't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I struggle. I struggle with that parallel parking.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we have big cars. I know, but I don't know. I mean, I think it was a fine first episode, but there's coming out really soon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So there's three. I wonder if the husband. The husbands can't be done, right?

[Tamara Judge]

No. Because we haven't even gotten into Meredith storming off. Meredith is going to storm off because someone's gonna allege that Seth is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I.

[Tamara Judge]

You don't know that because.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because I was really expecting Mary to say that, you know, something wasn't great with her son. Because you know how Andy in the commercial, like, Cheeser, like, wipes his eyes if he's crying about it. And they're like, where is he at now? And she's like, he's doing great. So they sliced.

[Tamara Judge]

That was just at the opening. I think they're gonna take it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're gonna go. Oh, sure. They're gonna go deeper. They're gonna go deeper.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I think that's where the crying happens. I think we just saw, like, how's he doing? You know, that beginning round table essentially, for lack of a better word, isn't really to get information. It's just like, we're gonna say hi to everybody.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So I have a few fan thoughts, though. Lisa can never listen. Why can't Lisa say, sorry, Bronwyn. These are fan thoughts, people. Bronwyn lied about buying the jewelry. Why does Lisa get to advertise all her businesses but the other housewives can? I would like to know that one.

[Tamara Judge]

Too, really has been talking about her business quite a bit, and so has Meredith, so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. But I feel like every event was vita, tequila and real, and this person really wants Whitney and Lisa to be friends again. Part one was too much. Braun one. And fan thoughts.

[Tamara Judge]

Fan thoughts. Well, all right, you guys will be back and we'll be discussing Southern charm. Talk to you soon.

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