Big Girls Don’t Cry (RHOM Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: "Big Girls Don’t Cry (RHOM Recap)"

Date: August 29, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Guest Contributor: Jenna Kim Jones
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi, Tamra, and Jenna deliver their signature unfiltered takes as they recap the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM), discuss recent headlines from across the Housewives universe, and throw in plenty of behind-the-scenes tea and playful shade. The episode focuses on the dynamics of the cast trip to Marbella, tension between cast members, and the ever-entertaining drama and friendships that make Housewives must-watch TV.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up and Setting the Table

• Teddi and Tamra express excitement about working together again.
• The pair, joined by Jenna, announce their plan to break down RHOM and deliver recent Housewives headlines, poking fun at themselves:
  "Headlines was brought up on Orange County… And some of our terrible TikToks." – Jenna Kim Jones [04:03]

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2. Housewives Headlines Round-Up

A. Karen Huger’s Jail Release (RHOP):

• Karen Huger is set for an early release on September 2nd, coincidentally Jenna's birthday.
  "Is this early?" – Jenna [06:36]
  "I think it's early. This marks an early release for Karen, who was sentenced back in February…" – Teddi [06:43]
• They joke about the scene being a “Theresa-walking-out-of-jail moment,” hoping it’s captured on camera.
  "They're gonna do the whole Theresa thing, walking out of jail…We want to see that." – Jenna [07:27]

B. Jackie Goldschneider Supports Louie Ruelas in Court (RHONJ):

• Surprised that Jackie, a former adversary, submitted an affidavit supporting Louie in a dispute with his ex Vanessa.
• Jenna is perplexed by Jackie’s claims of being a former attorney as if it adds credibility, and the group questions the motives and recent history.
  "Do you get brownie points for ‘former attorney’?" – Teddi [08:34]
  "So that's just a little flex, I guess." – Jenna [08:54]
• They roll their eyes at the drama involving kids, social media, and claims that "everybody's blocked."
  "Leave the kids out of it." – Jenna [10:02]

C. Denise Richards & Aaron Phypers Adoption Drama (RHOBH):

• Revelations that Denise never completed the formal adoption paperwork for her daughter, despite telling everyone otherwise.
• Teddi and Jenna reminisce about meeting Aaron, with Teddi making it clear she never liked him:
  "Never for one second you’ve told me that." – Jenna [17:10]
• Discussion about multiple homes, possible mansion-trashing, and exaggerated circumstances.
  "Denise Richards. Is that rich?" – Jenna [19:26]

D. David Beador & Leslie Divorce Saga (RHOC):

• David dropped his latest divorce case against wife Leslie after previously requesting a restraining order.
• The hosts collectively groan at the headline’s existence:
  "I'm begging you…stop reporting on David Beador and his wife Leslie…We're part of the problem." – Jenna [20:47]
• They vow (again, maybe facetiously) to stop covering David Beador news.

E. Gretchen Rossi's Alleged Lies (RHOC):

• Teddi discusses how a comment she made on a podcast about Gretchen being a liar was picked up and posted by Bravo accounts, prompting a response from Gretchen.
• The group jokes about reality TV lie detectors, referencing Lisa Vanderpump’s infamous polygraph guy:
  "It's like hiring Reddit—that guy." – Teddi [22:41]

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3. Recapping Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM)

Begins: [29:59]

A. Marbella Trip Shenanigans

• The group sets up the logistics of the trip: some drive, some fly, and there's immediate talk of drama and who skips what portion of the trip.
• They two laugh over Gertie’s bizarre glasses: "Those glasses gave me a headache." – Teddi [30:30]

B. Cast Splits & Seating Drama

• Two cast members (Marisol and Alexia) skip the flight, saying they want to "just relax"—but Jenna and Teddi suggest it's to avoid confrontation.
• Stephanie is inexplicably hurt by seating arrangements, leading to her crying—twice. "We've seen a very strong, opinionated Stephanie, but with two cries now." – Jenna [31:55]
• Julia calls Stephanie "bossy," which leads to more tears and powders flying.

C. Godparents, Wealth Flexing & Mansion Envy

• Group debates Julia's choice of octogenarian godparents, asking:
  "If you’re gonna have godparents, shouldn’t you shoot for somebody… younger?" – Jenna [32:32]
• All the hosts marvel at Julia’s super-rich friends—one of whom is likely to inherit a mansion.
• Only one of Julia’s chosen male godparents shows up, and the hosts tease this as showing off.

D. Richard Branson’s Cameo & Cruise Tease

• Surprise appearance by Richard Branson, who invites some Housewives on a future trip or possibly a yacht/cruise.
  "Richard Branson has joined the chat." – Jenna [34:12]
  "I was not ready for that guest!" – Teddi [34:22]
• Teddi jokes about fearing cruise ships due to a “poop cruise” documentary.

E. Lisa’s Divorce Finalized

• Lisa unexpectedly becomes officially divorced during the trip, dashing out of a dinner to sign papers. Larsa refuses to toast her milestone.
  "Larsa wouldn’t even cheers with her about it." – Teddi [35:07] "I'm really just sad my friends aren't here… Let's pour a glass of something more expensive than Dom..." – Lisa, paraphrased by Jenna [36:07]

F. Julia’s Daughters & Show-Off Storylines

• Confusion over Julia’s daughters being upset about her adoption journey; speculation that Julia is bringing up the storyline for attention or to highlight her elite social circle.
• Adriana volunteers to be a godparent, but her relationship with Julia is clearly frosty, reflecting broader trends of former close friends being sidelined for 'the popular group.'

G. Split Squad & Reluctant Bonding

• The split cast leads to classic Housewives cross-talking, gossiping, and cliques.
• Hosts note the power struggle between Stephanie and Alexia. "It’s a power struggle… Whose dick’s bigger?" – Jenna [42:18]
• The group agrees that sometimes, a little cast divide is necessary for drama.

H. Final Thoughts & Next Week’s Tease

• Lisa and Larsa’s friendship remains strained, and the hosts lament the ongoing rift.
• Next week promises more Spain trip action; there’s speculation about a Richard Branson cruise and a canceled Housewives cruise involving cast from multiple franchises.
• All roads lead to BravoCon. "Just go to BravoCon. Yeah, because we'll be there...See y'all there." – Jenna & Teddi [44:36–44:40]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On why Housewives headlines keep coming:
  "We are the problem. No, I’m just saying—we do headlines, whatever you guys put out there, we’re going to put out there about housewives." – Jenna Kim Jones [21:09]
• On Julia’s super-rich friends:
  "They are rich bitches. But are they gonna get the mansion? Is that why she’s doing it?" – Jenna Kim Jones [32:52]
• On the authenticity of drama:
  "Wanting to do something and doing something are two totally different things." – Teddi Mellencamp [38:02]
• On Housewives group dynamics:
  "Sometimes housewives feed into the comment section of Instagram, and it’s like, oh, well, she didn’t have a good season so I’m just gonna turn my back to her, and focus on the popular ones. Oh, but you know how that changes every year." – Jenna Kim Jones [38:41]
• On trying to form genuine friendships on the show:
  "I think Stephanie is truly that girl that probably doesn’t get really close to girls…so this is like the hardest show in the frickin world for her to be on." – Jenna Kim Jones [40:29]
• On Lisa and Larsa’s tense friendship:
  "She just called her petty, petty Pippin." – Teddi Mellencamp [42:44]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:44: Intro to the episode, recap format
• 06:22–10:15: Housewives Headlines—Karen Huger, Jackie Goldschneider, RHONJ court drama
• 17:08–19:54: Denise Richards & Aaron Phypers drama
• 20:02–21:19: David Beador and Leslie saga
• 29:59: Shift to Real Housewives of Miami recap
• 30:26–32:59: Marbella trip, Gertie’s glasses, group splits, and seating drama
• 34:12–34:38: Richard Branson’s cameo and cruise tease
• 35:07–37:03: Lisa’s finalized divorce and Julia’s attention-seeking storyline
• 38:41: Group dynamics and popularity shifts among Housewives
• 40:29: Stephanie’s outsider status
• 41:03–42:56: Stephanie vs. Alexia, apology drama
• 43:08–43:43: Teasing the Branson cruise & BravoCon
• 44:36–44:40: Farewell; “see y’all at BravoCon”

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Tone and Takeaways

Equal parts snarky and insightful, this episode is a quintessential “Two Ts in a Pod” outing—light on filter and full of inside jokes, personalized commentary, and ex-housewife camaraderie. Teddi and Tamra leverage their own experiences on the shows to deliver real talk and dissect the sometimes ridiculous, always dramatic world of Housewives—all while stirring the pot just enough to keep it entertaining.

Best for: Fans who want honest, irreverent takes and the kind of banter only ex-Housewives can provide.

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Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Heather Dubrow]

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[Terry Dubrow]

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[Jenna Kim Jones]

Hi guys.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of two T's.

[Tamara Judge]

In a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, Tam.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Hi, babe.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm so happy we work together again. I know.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

This is amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So this episode we are going to be recapping Real Housewives of Miami and also doing some housewife headlines.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, we haven't done headlines in a while.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's been a while. It's been slow.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Slow. You know, headlines was brought up on Orange County.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh yeah, you know, like I got stuttered.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, headlines.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, our. Our headlines got.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So were some of our terrible tiktoks.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Do they show TikTok? Mind you, I have only. I haven't watched all the episodes I like. I. Where my anxiety is. I'm like, not today, Satan. I ain't watching you OC well, my.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Favorite thing that happened was on last week's OC you're calling to leave me a message. And she plays my voicemail, which is, hi, it's Teddy. I can't come to the phone right now. Please don't leave me. And then Tamara's like, hey, it's Tamara.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Because I figure, I figure that's like for the common folk, you know, like the people you don't really want to talk to. Like, that's who that is for.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I actually really been craving voicemails. Also, Tamara was on Jeff Lewis this morning. I was, what are the updates? What did he ask? Give me all the.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I mean, it's all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's all the same.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

It's all the same shit. Like, who do you think should come back next year? How would you change it? He asked about you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who did you say you thought should come back next year?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I said, like, you know, I hate to answer these questions. You know, I was asked this on Watch Happens Live and I said, I think Shannon should be gone or he asked who should be fired. But you know what, Andy? Don't ask me shitty questions if you don't want a shady answer. And I said, shannon, just because I feel like she can't move forward. Yeah. So he asked me, and I. I changed her. I upgraded her to a friend. Upgrade her to a friend. And I won't tell you what he said to me off camera. But anyways. Yeah. And I just feel like. Yeah, I think there could be some changes for sure.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What other things did he ask? I don't want to be blindsided by seeing things in the press that you said on Jeff Lewis. I think.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I think that's probably majority of it. I went there to talk about Veena. Eddie was with me and all that stuff. Cause Jeff is an ambassador for our business.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah. So we go. I go once, twice a year and talk about our products and things like that. And of course, the show's airing right now, so there's always questions. And, of course, there's always the lying. The lying that's going on. And the fact that I was out for one week and they didn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They couldn't even create one episode without you.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

He talked about that.

[Terry Dubrow]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So, sure.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Just the normal shit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Normal shooting the shit. All right, well, let's get into headlines, then. Real Housewives of Potomac. Karen Huger has a new jail release date, and she will be out September 2nd.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yes. Happy birthday to me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was gonna say. Is that your birthday?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

That is my birthday, yes. September 2nd. Second. She'll be released from jail now. Is this early?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think it's early. This marks an early release for Karen, who was sentenced back in February to two years with one suspended and $2,900 in fines and five years of probation.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Wait, so how long has she been in there? Do we know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not that long.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Do we know how. How much, like, is she getting off for good behavior? Like, how does this work?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think that's just probably from overfill.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Sorry, we don't need you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You got to get out of here. But hopefully she's learned her lesson. The next one. Can you explain?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Let's think about this. So Potomac is done filming for the season or still filming. Okay. But they. Okay, they're still filming. So they're gonna get this on camera.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They are gonna get.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They're gonna get her release. They're gonna do. They're gonna do the whole Theresa thing, walking out of jail and, oh, wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This was their lucky day. Can you imagine how they felt when they saw that she was getting out Early. You think they'll film her actually walking out?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, I sure the fuck hope so. That's what I want. Yeah, me too. That's what I want to do with Julie Chrisley. She had the dark hair with the gray roots and all that. And we. We want to see that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we want. We need to see it. Yeah, we need to see it. And also, it's a good lesson to everybody. No drinking and driving. Yeah. Then this part, I was a little bit confused. New Jersey's Theresa's husband Louis, defended by former enemy Jackie Goldenscheider in court.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So what is this?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't understand.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So us obtained a declaration written by Jackie, 48. They always have to tell their age, which is annoying. Submitted by Louis, 50, in his court battle with his ex, Vanessa. So evidently, they're still in court about violating the 2020 deal. Not to disparage each other. And Jackie was there to defend Louis.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She said, I'm providing this affidavit. Affidavit and support of rules. Motion for contempt against Vanessa Reiser. Goldenshine wrote, I'm a former attorney. Does that matter? Do you get brownie points?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, I don't know why she would say I'm a former attorney. Like she's not representing either one of.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Them, but I don't.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So that's just a little flex, I guess.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Jackie continues. Although I am initially sympathetic of Vanessa's situation, she exploited by vulnerability and kindness and sought to leverage our interactions to criticize Louis. I go, I'm. I'm confused. I'm not. Do you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. Well, I feel like something happened last season where Jackie started talking to the ex.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh, my God. You're right. And that's where Margaret said you subpoenaed the wrong bitch.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So it's all coming back full circle. So I wonder if we'll see it if Jersey ends up coming back.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So basically, what it comes down to is Louis claims his ex had tried to sabotage his personal professional life since learning about his relationship with Teresa. So Jackie came in to support him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He also claimed that Reiser followed Teresa's daughter Gia, which made her feel uncomfortable. And Riser scoffed at the claims about Judice's daughter. Just leave the kids out.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Leave the kids out of it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Come on.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

You followed whoever for whatever. I mean, she's probably the only reason. Only person that wasn't blocked.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we've got. Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Let's be honest. Like, oh, well, everybody's blocked, but why can't people just move on?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I just move on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

People just move on from this foreign.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now we're in two back to back headlines in regards to Aaron and Denise Richards. The first one is, was a surprise to all of us because when we were filming Real Housewives, we were told that he formally adopted her daughter Eloise. Eloise.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Okay. You've never liked him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Never for one second you've told me that.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And I met him with you at Andy's baby shower for the very first time. I think the only time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, the fact that he was at Andy's baby shower should speak volumes.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God, you're volumes.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

There was no other. Well, it was after we left and then we went.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we went to Craig's and he was there. Anytime Edwin was not there, he wasn't there. Eddie wasn't there. None of. I mean, even like the. The guys that really like to be on television, they weren't there.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh my God. I mean, none of this is a huge surprise now that we look back and we see the things and hear the situation where, you know, did you think she purposely didn't file the papers because she knew things weren't gonna go as planned? This wasn't her forever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. I think if you go as far as to say you're filing the papers, maybe it was a mistake or a clerical error or maybe, I mean, she. I love Denise. Maybe not the most organized person there is.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And maybe me saying I love Denise might have been an oversell. I mean, I care about Denise's well being.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then it goes on to say that uh, Denise submitted a series of photos into evidence as part of her divorce that her estranged husband trashing the million dollar mansion they once shared.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Okay, so let's talk about that. So his parents or his family is rent is. I'm confused.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How many homes there are.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Does Denise own a big house in Malibu?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, there was the house we went to. Remember when there was the diamond ice sculptures? Yes, there was that house.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Where was that house?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was in Malibu area.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Ish. So I would imagine it's that house.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. Then there was another house.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

There's another house.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There was another house that I feel like his parents lived in and that's where all the dogs maybe lived. I think when I say dogs, I think they might have something like. Yeah, 20 dogs.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

No, nobody needs 20 dogs. So he's accusing him them of trashing the million dollar mansion they once shared together. So you don't think it's the house that they filmed in?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It could have been. I mean there's. They have four houses.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They have four. Denise Richards. Is that rich?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it's apparently. I think there's four houses. And then remember they.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh my God. It's a six bedroom, five bathroom, almost 7,000 square foot mansion. Aaron and his parents and brother have severely damaged the home and left the house in a city state of disarray. Richard said. A source close to Aaron disputes the claims that he or his family has damaged the home.

[Tamara Judge]

Get out. Get out.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, get out. Here's the door.

[Tamara Judge]

Get the fuck out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get out.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I will go over there and get them out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get out of the house. This next one is Shannon Beador's ex. David Beador drops divorce against wife Leslie after alleged abuse. Shannon's ex husband David dismissed his divorce from his current wife Leslie, months after accusing her of abuse. Us Weekly can exclusively report. David told David 60, Always the.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Always the age.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Always told the court he was no longer moving forward with the divorce. On August 14, he asked the entire case to be dismissed. The judge signed off on his request and his initial filing. David also requested a restaining order against Leslie over her alleged abuse. And he pleaded to her to remain 100 yards away from him and his home. And he.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Stop it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know this is at, at.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

This point, please, I'm begging you, press, bloggers, journalists, whoever you are, stop reporting on David Beador and his wife Leslie clearly. Oh my God. This is what we're doing. Oh my God. We're part of the problem.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We are. Is. Are we the problem?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

We are the problem. No I'm just saying we do headlines, and whatever you guys put out there, we're going to put out there about housewives. Okay? We're part of the problem.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We are the problem.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

We will. We will no longer report on David and his wife divorcing. How's that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're gonna. You're gonna say a definite absolute.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Don't say an absolutely said never. Talking absolutes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Never.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I'm like, what does that mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I did a podcast with Matt about Real Housewives in Orange county and where I essentially said, yeah, I mean, Katie's obviously lying about telling Kiki and whatever, but the real liar to me is Gretchen. So a Bravo account took a clip from the podcast with myself and Matt recapping Real Housewives of Orange county, saying that, you know, Gretchen is a liar regardless. And then she is. They reposted it, and then she comments, not true. I never told Katie that. The only person who is changing their story is Katie. She claims she never told Kiki this fake story, and then I find out she actually did. Watch this week's episode, the Lie Detector Test says a lot.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, when you see who performs the lie detector test, you. It might be a little me. While I'm mine, you might be only her for a minute. Let's just say Lisa Vanderpump hired this guy. Oh, ruh roh, ruh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Row. I bet it's the same guy.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

It is the same guy. He's a guy that does all of the reality.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. It's like hiring Reddit.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

That guy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You can't say somebody's changing their story when we literally see her changing her story about going to the hospital. I saw it three times. We're going to take a quick break, and then we're going to come back and we're going to talk about Real Housewives of Miami.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Hello, It's Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and.

[Heather Dubrow]

Will Friedle from Pod Meets World, and we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

[Tamara Judge]

That's right.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

We are back in Las Vegas, the.

[Tamara Judge]

City of sin, and giving the people what they want.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

A full week of Y2K content.

[Heather Dubrow]

Wait, we're back in Vegas?

[Terry Dubrow]

Tell me why.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, for the Backstreet Boy Boys residency.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

At Sphere, of course, we sat down.

[Heather Dubrow]

With Kevin Richardson and AJ McLean just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Minutes before they took the stage.

[Tamara Judge]

And our very own Will Friedle basically.

[Terry Dubrow]

Became the newest member of the band.

[Heather Dubrow]

Boy band, please.

[Tamara Judge]

Plus, the man who has the longest.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top baby.

[Heather Dubrow]

And finally, we all L o v e her. Ashley Simpson Ross joins us here to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a full week of nostalgic interviews.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

You don't want to miss.

[Heather Dubrow]

Listen to Pod Meets world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

If there's anything as perfectly dramatic and totally engrossing as reality tv, it might be the procedural shows on primetime TV right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Specifically all of the shows from the One Chicago Universe.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

If you're a fan of one of.

[Tamara Judge]

Their shows, then there's a new podcast you'll want to check out called the One Chicago Podcast from USG Audio and Wolf Entertainment. When it comes to tv, there's something so satisfying about knowing how the sausage gets made. From cheeky production choices to plot lines and the reactions of the fan base, the One Chicago Podcast is all that and more. It's the official behind the scenes look at the iconic shows from the One Chicago Universe, Chicago pd, Chicago Med, and of course, Chicago Fire.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Each episode joins host and former Chicago cop turned Chicago PD producer Brian Lucci, and he is joined by the actors, producers and writers behind the epic One Chicago Universe.

[Tamara Judge]

To listen to the One Chicago Podcast, search for One Chicago Podcast on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. That's One Chicago Podcast. If you're looking for wine that's not just delicious, but also total crowd pleaser, let me introduce you to Josh Sellars. This California wine brand has over a dozen award winning wines. From crisp Sauvignon Blancs to velvety Merlots, you can find the perfect wine for every mood and every occasion. If you're hosting a holiday get together, grab a bottle of their velvety Cabernet Sauvignon. It pairs perfectly with those rich, decadent dishes. Your hosting game will be instantly elevated. Or maybe you're just kicking back with friends. After a long week of gift hunting and holiday chaos, that's an ideal Josh Cellers Pinot Grigio moment. Every bottle of Josh Cellers is made for sharing with the people who matter most. The wine is crafted to exacting standards, so every pour is beautifully balanced, smooth and absolutely delicious. With so many amazing wines to choose from, there's always a reason to enjoy some Josh Cellars. This season, Josh Cellars is a proud sponsor of two teas in a pot. Visit www.joshcellars.com teapot t e a P O D and join the wine club to get 20% off. Please drink responsibly before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes. Shopping used to feel more fun, but here's a confession.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Heather Dubrow]

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[Tamara Judge]

Do you love Sex and the City? Now you can relive the magic from the very beginning. Every date, every heartbreak, every cosmopolitan with me, Kristen Davis, AKA Charlotte York on my podcast Are youe a Charlotte?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I'm rediscovering the show that we all.

[Tamara Judge]

Love so much, episode by episode. Open your free iHeartradio app search are youe a Charlotte?

[Terry Dubrow]

And listen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments, we know a thing or two about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast between us with me.

[Heather Dubrow]

Heather Dubrow, and me, Terry debrow. Between Us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids.

[Tamara Judge]

It's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

You wish you could eavesdrop on. Equal parts smart, funny, and a little bit scandalous.

[Heather Dubrow]

Every week, Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines, the trends, and the cultural moments everyone's texting about.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And Terry will deliver insider beauty, health and wellness insights you won't find on TikTok.

[Heather Dubrow]

Together, we'll tell the stories, spill the secrets, and share the hacks that keep life, marriage, and everything in between feeling fresh and fun.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

We may live in a gated community, but there's zero gatekeeping here and plenty.

[Heather Dubrow]

Of did they just say that? Moments.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Listen to between us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So it starts out there in the lobby of the hotel. They're going to Marbella, which I've actually driven from Sevilla to Marbella. It's. It's a beautiful drive. So Alexia, Marisol, if they got kicked off the plane, it would have been a beautiful drive.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They wouldn't mind.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But I want to know what's going on with Gertie's glasses.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I want. Those glasses gave me a headache.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I. I'm like, are they two glasses? Is it like you have readers on?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then they were Harry Potter glasses, but then with another pair.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I've never seen glasses like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. I wonder if this other tent, the other side, worked as another type of glass.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I felt like they were recording people.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, that's what it was. It was recording glasses.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So we find out for sure Marisol and Alexei are not going to. They want to just relax.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're claiming they just want to relax, but really we know it's because of what happened. They don't want to get stuck there.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I mean, it's a 22 minute flight, so it's got to be like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's a three hour drive, probably.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I say an hour and 15.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, hour and 15 because it's a 45 minute flight to Vegas and it's a four and a half hour drive home.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Okay, couple hours. Couple hours. It's a couple hours. It's a beautiful drive.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Along the way, they didn't want to go. Okay. To prove a point.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But by the way, if Marisol and Alexia don't want to go, I am all for that, because I love when people spend that. The cast split up because then we get the shit talking and then it's like, oh, she said this and she said that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, Stephanie's seating arrangement definitely didn't help things.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, Stephanie's very hurt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't. Listen, if I had a private jet, I don't think anything could hurt my feelings.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, we've seen a very strong, opinionated.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Stephanie, but with two cries now.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Two cries now. Two cries. And it's not that personal, Stephanie. I'm telling you right now, as your housewife, sister, friend, it's not that deep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then the girls all start like, you know, she's saying she's really hurt, but it's actually. Isn't it supposed to be Julia's day?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, Julia called her bossy. Yeah, she's like, well, you're kind of bossy. And she got teary eyed and she started crying again.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, she had to get her powders, her powder puff out.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But, I mean, I'm all for it. If they don't want to go, they don't need to go. I think the biggest question is if Julia is their friend. The godparents won't be around to raise these children because they're in their 80s, they're older. Like, if you're gonna have godparents, shouldn't you shoot for somebody that sprightly? Might be a little younger. But if they're gonna get the mansion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They are rich, honey.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They are rich bitches. But are they gonna get the mansion? Is that why she's doing it? I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But only one of the guys could be bothered to show up.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

The other one's like, I ain't doing this. How did you rope me into this? You just want to show how fancy your friends are and what big the house is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What about when she's crying? She says, you obviously don't think I'm that bossy. If you're riding in my plane, she's your girl. I don't know.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But you know what? I would have said the same thing. You know, if. If you have a problem with me, why are you sitting in my private jet?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because I don't want to. I don't want to go over and take that other flight.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I don't want to drive two hours.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You offered.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

You offered. So.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So you got stupid amount of money.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, they're on the job, they're dancing, they're partying. And then they shoot over to Alexia and Marisol and they're like this text, text, text, text, text, text, text. Like they're looking. They're making it look like they're doing nothing. They're doing nothing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But really, I think it's up to them if they. If this is Alexia's trip, then if she doesn't want to go and she wants to have one day with Marisol, what's the big deal? But also, Julia just sprung it on there.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

It's like hours, isn't it? It's like, it's not even like a full day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They don't even sleep over there. They didn't even do a change of outfit.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

No, they did a 22 minute pit stop, showed the rich guys Elton John, whatever his name was, and then they left.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. But also in that moment, at some point, we see Richard Branson.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Richard Branson has joined the chat.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Richard Branson has invited those gals on a trip.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was like, I wasn't ready for that guest.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I was not ready for that. And I am shocked that he's like, yeah, I'll do this. Go ahead, Marisol, my good friend. I'm going to go ahead. And so I wasn't quite clear on what she's going to invite them to. Is Richard Branson going to have a party for them?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I think he's going to have them on one of his yachts or, or cruises or something like that. And all I could think was about the poop cruise documentary that I watched.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh, I don't even want to watch that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it has nothing to do with Francis. It's a different cruise. But now I'm really. I'm having issues with cruises.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But we did find out that Lisa is divorced.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Lisa's officially divorced.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So is that why she had to run from that dinner to sign?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Obviously. But then.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And she didn't know that's what she was signing was a final divorce paper.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Larsa wouldn't even cheers with her about it.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Larsa's like, nah, no, I'm good, I'm good. I don't need you. I'm just really shocked at darling Dick agreeing, also known as Richard Branson, to be on camera and to host these girls in the future. I'm here for it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm just shocked you're a little bit jealous.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I'm a little bit jealous. What? I wasn't jealous.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Of what?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

There's one thing I wasn't jealous of. Those ugly fucking chairs at that dinner table at that huge mansion. And those wine glasses that were.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We would have spilt those wine glasses long. The amount of stems I would have broken trying to drink a glass of that champagne or whatever it was. No, but I don't know If Lisa's.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Are you God? Do you have godparents for your kids?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Don't.

[Heather Dubrow]

No.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I mean, that's like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I have a last one.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Is that a Catholic thing?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's a Catholic.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

It's a Catholic thing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I have a last will and testament.

[Terry Dubrow]

Are you.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Are they like 80 years old?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Or you're like, yeah, if something happens to me, you're going to these 80 year olds because they're gonna. To really show you a good time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're going to really give you all the monies. But Lisa's I think a little bit tipsy because when they're all sitting around, she's like, I'm really just sad my friends aren't here. Let's pour a glass of. And it's whatever is more expensive than like Dom or.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah. Something we don't drink.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Something above our corbel.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, we're not that. That cheap. They're not that cheap. We'll do PRCO if we have to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen, we'll do a PRCO split.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So what did you think about Julia's friends?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought they were great, but I thought that I. What I can't stop thinking about when it comes to Julia. Is Julia doing this because she wants more attention? Because this was kind of a last minute thing. This is another new storyline we have.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I'm confused.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And also her feelings aren't hurt at all that her two closest friends aren't there for her because she hadn't spoken about this prior to when they left for Spain. Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But I'm also confused with her talking with the guys or the Derek and Jeffrey. I'm not sure which one was there because one was missing. Maybe it was Jeffrey that she needed a little help with her daughters because her daughters are not behind the fact that she adopted two kids.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're not adjusting.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They're not adjusting. But it's so weird to me because they don't live together and they haven't lived together in a long time and they live in a different country. Is that the truth? Do you think that's the truth?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think they live in New York City now. Oh, they do. I think they live in New York City now. My guess is until the deal was done, she probably didn't say anything to her kids. And they probably felt like she talked.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

About it last season, that she wanted to adopt. It couldn't have been, like news they've never heard before.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wanting to do something and doing something are two totally different. Things like, I want to run a marathon next week. It's not happening.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Right. Well, I'm just confused on that. There is. It's not quite clear of what's going on there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I want to know if she just wanted to show off that she had wealthy friends.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Duh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Duh.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah. Yes, absolutely. 100%.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then there's at one point where Adriana goes, I would like to be the godparent.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And I'm like, well, that makes more sense.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But are they. What happened with them? We must have missed something, because they are not friends.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Well, I think that Julia jumped over to the popular group and kind of left because Adriana didn't have a great season last year. And that's kind of what's happened to a little bit to me this season. Like, I didn't have a great season last year with the whole Shannon and alcoholic shit, and now sometimes housewives feed into the comment section of Instagram, and it's like, oh, well, she didn't have a good season. So I'm just gonna. You know, I'm gonna turn my back to her, and I'm gonna focus on the popular ones. Oh, but you know how that changes every year. There's a. There's a popular one. There's one that nobody likes. There's.

[Heather Dubrow]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But either way, they have a nice trip. It's not a big deal. We don't. The only thing that we see Alexia and Marisol doing is, like, they go to a coffee shop, and they just chat.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They're just relaxing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're just. They don't want to go. I get it. They don't want to have a dance party on somebody's grab or the castle.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

They just wanted, like, you know what? This is some time off for us.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Been there, done that, seen that movie. Then we get back to.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

The girls arrive back to the hotel.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. The girls arrive back to the hotel. They walk around in their dresses.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yep. They separate. They separately talk about what's happened today. So we get a little update. They realize there is a parade going on. Alexia thinks it's a sign.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now, hold on. Before we get to that. They walk along in dresses, and then they sing. There's a special surprise for Stephanie.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

There's nothing. No amount of money you can pay me to get into those dresses and walk around. You feel like the biggest tourist ever in your life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're loving it. And then Stephanie. They start singing to Stephanie.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. So they're singing to her. I truly Believe. You know, because what does Stephanie do? She picks up the phone and she calls her husband or facetimes him and she shows him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think I thought he was going to show up in that moment.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I know. I think Stephanie is truly that girl that probably hasn't. Doesn't get really close to girls. She's probably really focused on business and she's into her husband. That she just doesn't really connect with women. So this is like the hardest show in the fricking world for her to be on. It's like, I have to be friends.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

But I have to have feelings.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then they all separately kind of talk about what happened. Everybody has different feelings. Larsa, they. They pan to, you know, there starts to become an argument between Stephanie and Alexia.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah. And Alexis. Marisol should be here. Marisol should be here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And she's like your twin. Your twin. Your twin. But at the end of the day, Larsa had said the day before, I don't want to be on the flight with Lisa.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I know, I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And that was the only person that kind of put down those rules. Kiki and Adriana had never even said anything. We also find out this episode that Adriana Clifford claims that she was trying.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

To say wretched, which I guess are two totally different.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're two totally different words, but they're very close. But let's both say it. Wretched. Ratchet.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Ratchet. Ratchet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wretched and ratchet.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Okay. I mean, neither one of them are nice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. But one is worse than the other.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

One is worse than the other. That's for sure.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she does apologize to Keith. Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And I think that that was good that she did apologize. I mean, I think she.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she wiped. She didn't explain. Explain the wretched ratchet thing, which makes me wonder if she came up with that later in time.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

A hundred percent she did. But Lexi is not allowing Stephanie. You know, like, she's like the. It's not your rules. You're not doing that. And they're going back and forth in their fight. Like it's like a power struggle between the two of them.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. They can't. Whose dick's bigger?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah. Who has the. Let's swing these decks.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it doesn't really get anywhere. They end up pulling everybody apart. And then at the end there, the parade starts, and it's Stephanie and Larsa saying, this is a sign. We need to all come together and come to Jesus.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh, God. And then they pray awkwardly. Larsa wants nothing to do with Lisa.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. She wouldn't Cheers her.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

She called her petty divorce.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. She just called her petty, petty pippin. And she didn't want her on the plane.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

And I think this is all. I mean, we've seen it play out all season long. She's still following Marcus.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, she unfollowed Marcus last week.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Oh, she did? Look, I wasn't. I didn't watch, remember, I was out, so she had.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Pay attention, please.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Why is she pissed now?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's just still pissed. She thinks that Lisa is all about herself.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Duh. That's Lisa. That's why we love her. Every time we see Lisa, she's taking selfies and she's late. But that's why we love her and I. They've been friends long enough. Like she should know there's. It's just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's time to move on.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Time to move on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But it doesn't. Because, remember we talked to Larsa and we had an interview with her and she didn't. It seems to only get worse between the two of them.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Tamara Judge]

I hate that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ugh, me too.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Time to move forward.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I'm excited for next week. I mean, they didn't show us much in the teaser, which I hope doesn't mean that it's a filler episode.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Okay, so there are three episodes in Spain and it looks like they're possibly going on maybe a Richard Branson cruise.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or maybe that's for next season.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I don't know. I would think it would be this season if they're talking about it, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I wish they would have asked us on the Richard Branson cruise.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I'm not sure. Cruises.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Poop cruise.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Did you just hear that? The cruise for Dolores, Teresa and Shannon was canceled?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I don't know. I haven't asked Dolores about. It was canceled. But evidently somebody wrote something like it was canceled and then the. I think it was Chrissy Balls, I think posted this. And then the guy that runs the cruise ship or works for the cruise ship, he made this long, nasty message and then she combated it with like some legal stuff and I'm like, oh my God, this. This shit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't sign up to do any cruises.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Just go to BravoCon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just go to BravoCon.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah, because we'll be there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah, we will.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

On the same panel.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

See y' all there.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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