Two Ts In A Pod: “Bronwyn Blues (RHOSLC Recap)”
Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode Date: October 23, 2025
Hosts: Tamra Judge & Dolores Catania (subbing for Teddi Mellencamp)
Theme: A candid and emotional recap of the latest Real Housewives of Salt Lake City episode — focusing on shifting relationships, family struggles, and the perennial drama that fuels the franchise.
Episode Overview
This episode dives deep into the current Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) season, tackling everything from Heather Gay's new Bravo docuseries, legal disputes on RHOA, and complex cast relationships, to emotional family moments and uniquely “Housewives” scandals (including the now infamous “fartgate”). Tamra and Dolores combine their unique Housewives perspectives to empathetically dissect both the surface drama and underlying wounds.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Bravo Headlines: Heather Gay's Exposé and RHOA Lawsuits
- Heather Gay’s New Series:
- Heather is launching a limited Bravo series, Surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay, uncovering abuse inside the LDS Church. Both hosts express concern for Heather’s safety and emotional well-being.
- Dolores (03:59): “This kind of scares me for her... Is her safety okay?”
- Heather is launching a limited Bravo series, Surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay, uncovering abuse inside the LDS Church. Both hosts express concern for Heather’s safety and emotional well-being.
- Spotlight on Legal Battles (RHOA):
- Kelly Farrell’s ex's $200M lawsuit against Bravo over defamation; Tamra and Dolores call it “ridiculous” and doubt his chances.
- Tamra (09:20): “You could try to fight NBC, but I don’t think he’s gonna like...”
- Debate over Phaedra Parks as legal counsel, with questions about whether it’s a conflict of interest.
- Dolores (12:38): “I personally would probably not. I think it’s a conflict of interest...”
- Kelly Farrell’s ex's $200M lawsuit against Bravo over defamation; Tamra and Dolores call it “ridiculous” and doubt his chances.
2. Housewives Production & Child Filming Rights
- Discussion about Kelly’s custody situation and filming rights for her kids with both personal anecdotes and production “rules.”
- Tamra (20:15): “[If] he has joint custody, whether he sees them or not—legally, if he has joint custody he has to sign off.”
- Dolores (21:08): “I was pretty fortunate. I started the show with my ex, my kids were on the show. But as soon as we got divorced, he would no longer allow the kids to film.”
3. Salt Lake City Deep Dive (Episode 6 Recap): Dramatic Dynamics
- Bullying Accusations:
- Ongoing dispute about the misuse of the word "bully" on Housewives. Both hosts argue the definition does not fit these adult, TV-fueled arguments.
- Dolores (24:20): “Using the word ‘bully’ on Housewives is so comical... The show is about bullying.”
- Tamra (24:43): “I take bullying very seriously in my life... This isn’t my idea of bullying. Guys, stop it. Stop using that word.”
- Ongoing dispute about the misuse of the word "bully" on Housewives. Both hosts argue the definition does not fit these adult, TV-fueled arguments.
- Bronwyn’s Painful Marriage & Family Dynamics:
- Strong reactions to Bronwyn’s vulnerable scenes with her husband Todd, who appears emotionally distant and dismissive.
- Dolores (27:25): “Every time Todd appears on tv, my butthole clinches. This guy is intimidating and scary.”
- Tamra (28:21): “She has a lot of... hurt in her... But she doesn’t strike me as a woman that’s so affected by someone who acts like that... I’m confused by her.”
- Both speculate Todd resents the show and may be undermining Bronwyn out of spite.
- Tamra (30:05): “Guys like him... sometimes have a greater-than-thou attitude and they don’t have to change... he’s kind of punishing her for it.”
- Strong reactions to Bronwyn’s vulnerable scenes with her husband Todd, who appears emotionally distant and dismissive.
- Marriage Trouble Across the Cast:
- The hosts note visible strain in several couples, including Whitney and Lisa, and reflect on the pressures of reality TV on relationships.
- Dolores (31:14): “And I appreciate that she’s open about it. And I can tell right now that Lisa’s going through something.”
- The hosts note visible strain in several couples, including Whitney and Lisa, and reflect on the pressures of reality TV on relationships.
4. Mary’s Cutting Humor & “Fartgate”
- The hosts revel in Mary’s unfiltered, sometimes mean, but always honest takes and her now iconic on-air fart and subsequent argument with Angie.
- Tamra (37:53): “If Mary’s mob name would be Mary TV Gold. To me, she is opinionated. She’s not mean.”
- Tamra (47:36): “Mary’s fight over a fart will go down in Bravo history.”
- Cultural conversation about joking, family backgrounds, and who takes offense at being teased.
5. Lisa vs. The Cast: Defending the Unpopular Housewife
- Dolores asserts Lisa Barlow is unfairly targeted and “carrying the season.”
- Dolores (52:11): “They’re trying very hard to take Lisa down this season. The girl is getting it from every single direction.”
- Both point out hypocrisy: Lisa gets blamed for digging up gossip, when others do the same.
- Dolores (54:32): “There’s not one girl on that show that doesn’t speak their mind... not one girl on that show that’s not digging up shit and throwing it in their face.”
- They address infamous “private investigator” comments and why Lisa is always under suspicion.
6. Emotional Center: Brittany & Olivia’s Painful Coffee Shop Scene
- Both hosts are deeply affected by the estranged mother-daughter conversation, with Dolores sharing her own family alienation experience.
- Tamra (62:03): “This girl wants so badly, Olivia, so badly to have a relationship with her mother. And her mother just keeps saying things like, I failed, I’m miserable, you know, being there for my kids.”
- Olivia’s plea, as quoted by Dolores (63:20): “Olivia said, ‘get to know me, ma.’”
- Tamra (63:33): “I want to say to Brittany, you never stop fighting for your kids.”
- Heartfelt calls for “group therapy,” second chances, and advice on never giving up.
7. Identity Theft Allegations Against Bronwyn & Double Standards
- Whitney brings up allegations about Bronwyn’s past—Tamra and Dolores note the double standard in how it’s received versus when Lisa does it.
- Tamra (70:42): “If Lisa brought them up, she’d be called a nasty digging up, and we can’t trust sister.”
- Discussion about how Todd’s reaction is more for his own career and how Reddit and social media often drop the real dirt before the cast even knows.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote / Commentary | |-----------|------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:59 | Dolores | “This kind of scares me for her... Is her safety okay?” (On Heather’s docuseries) | | 09:20 | Tamra | “You could try to fight NBC, but I don’t think he’s gonna like...” (On $200M lawsuit) | | 24:20 | Dolores | “Using the word ‘bully’ on Housewives is so comical... the show is about bullying.” | | 24:43 | Tamra | “I take bullying very seriously... This isn’t my idea of bullying. Guys, stop it.” | | 27:25 | Dolores | “Every time Todd appears on tv, my butthole clinches. This guy is intimidating and scary.” | | 28:54 | Dolores | “She is drawn to people like her husband, like her mom... both very, very harsh.” | | 31:14 | Dolores | “I can tell right now that Lisa’s going through something.” | | 37:53 | Tamra | “If Mary's mob name would be Mary TV Gold. To me, she is opinionated. She’s not mean.” | | 47:36 | Tamra | “Mary’s fight over a fart will go down in Bravo history.” | | 52:11 | Dolores | “They’re trying very hard to take Lisa down this season.” | | 63:20 | Dolores | “Olivia said, ‘get to know me, ma.’” (On the Brittany-Olivia moment) | | 63:33 | Tamra | “I want to say to Brittany, you never stop fighting for your kids.” | | 66:57 | Dolores | “But how brave of her to do this.” | | 73:27 | Dolores | “Will Garnett, he says Mary’s fight over a fart will go down in Bravo history.” |
Important Segment Timestamps
- 03:36 – Podcast hosts finally introduced, jump into headline news.
- 05:08 – Reaction to Heather Gay’s docuseries and safety.
- 09:20 – Legal drama around RHOA cast.
- 20:00–22:33 – Insight into Housewives production and filming rights with children.
- 23:20 – Full dive into Salt Lake City episode recap and “bullying” discussion.
- 27:12 – Bronwyn and Todd’s on-screen marriage dynamic analyzed.
- 31:14 – Overview of cast marital strife.
- 37:21 – The hosts’ love for Mary and breakdown of her “golden” moments.
- 47:36–50:16 – “Fartgate” discussed in detail, cultural joking differences.
- 51:12 – Lisa called out by many cast members; hosts defend her.
- 54:32–55:25 – The Reddit effect and how cast secrets leak.
- 60:25 – Brittany and Olivia’s tense mother-daughter meeting is analyzed with raw personal testimonials.
- 70:41–71:58 – Whitney brings up Bronwyn’s legal history; discussion of double standards.
- 72:07–73:27 – Listener feedback; acknowledgment that Lisa is getting scapegoated, Mary’s fart-fight called historic.
Flow & Tone
The episode balances irreverence (hilarious hot takes, bold language, inside jokes) with genuine empathy, especially when tackling family estrangement. Dolores and Tamra offer firsthand Housewives knowledge, behind-the-scenes tidbits, and real-life motherly advice.
Summary: For Listeners Who Missed It
Dolores and Tamra bring an insightful, emotional, and often hilarious review of RHOSLC’s latest drama. They call out the misuse of “bully,” defend Lisa Barlow against what they see as cast “dogpiling,” probe the vulnerability of cast members like Bronwyn, and give poignant commentary on a devastating family estrangement storyline. Listeners are treated to a masterclass in Housewives analysis—with both hosts blending their personal histories, Bravo expertise, and irrepressible sense of humor for an episode that’s both cathartic and unforgettably entertaining.
