Butt Care Package (The Valley: Persian Style Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod – "Butt Care Package" (The Valley: Persian Style Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Hosts: Tamra Judge & Dolores Catania (filling for Teddi Mellencamp)
Date: February 6, 2026
Episode Runtime (Content Only): 03:00–41:00

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Episode Overview

In this lively and engaging episode, Tamra Judge and Dolores Catania recap Bravo’s "The Valley: Persian Style," delving into the drama, relationships, and key moments that unfolded in the latest episode. Together, they dissect friend fallouts, emotional vulnerability, comedic mishaps, and the unique personalities that make reality TV so addicting. As always, their honest, sometimes savage, and always entertaining commentary draws from their own Housewives backgrounds to provide sharp insights and plenty of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Getting In-Person for the Recap

• Travel Struggles and High Stakes:
  • Dolores expresses the logistical nightmare around getting to San Francisco for the podcast taping amidst a major event in the city (03:10–04:15).
  • Memorable Quote:
    • "Let me tell you something, Tamra. If I get the chance to see you and do this pod face to face, I’m not missing it—even if I have to wake up at 5:30 in the morning..." – Dolores (03:28)
  • The mood is set with camaraderie and some light-hearted discussion about their commitment to the show.

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2. The Valley Episode Breakdown

A. The Sky-Tannen Cream (and Dog) Drama

• Background:
  • Tannen is upset that Sky put her cream on her dog, interpreting it as a lack of support for her business (05:09 onwards).
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Both women find Tannen’s outrage overblown and unnecessary.
  • Dolores finds it performative and a reach for relevance, doubting the depth of their friendship.
    • "If you don’t think that that dog was worthy of your cream, then I have a problem with you." – Dolores (05:25)
    • "Did they become friends when they decided they were going to date? ...I think that was performative." – Dolores (06:17)
  • Tamra:
    • "I think that Tannen went and told everybody, knowing that they would be like, 'oh, that’s rude.'" – Tamra (06:54)
  • The two agree that such conflict is exaggerated for reality TV but note it’s entertaining.

B. Reza vs Sky Confrontation

• Incident:
  • Reza tells Sky she should talk it out with Tannen. She refuses; Reza calls her "stuck up."
• Hosts’ Analysis:
  • Dolores sides with Reza—Sky’s response is too harsh, and she talks to others the same way she talks to her husband, which doesn’t translate well (07:37–08:10).
    • "Women that talk to their husband the way she talks to her husband thinks they can talk to their husband outside of that. Don’t ever talk to me like that." – Dolores (07:41)
  • Tamra enjoys when Reza snaps back, reminding Sky of her roots:
    • "Get a grip. You are a waitress, remember?" – Quoting Reza (08:10)
  • Both agree Tannen instigated the situation, but Sky’s abrasive attitude keeps her from getting public sympathy.

C. Relationship Dynamics & Emotional Baggage

• Sky’s Husband and Marital Dynamics:
  • The hosts discuss Bam Shad’s gentle personality, his unwillingness to confront, and how Sky expects him to be both submissive at home and a defender in public (09:05–10:38).
    • "You can’t have a guy that lets you boss him around all the time and have that same guy be a pit bull at a table." – Dolores (10:01)
  • Tamra and Dolores get real about how different couples operate, acknowledging cultural and personal dynamics.

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3. Profound Emotional Moments

Amar & Natasha's Heart-to-Heart

• Topic:
  • Natasha discusses her insecurities about Amar's ongoing grief for his late first wife. Amar is deeply affected and emotional, worried about losing Natasha as well.
  • Memorable Quotes:
    • "It took a real woman to say that. Even though she’s going through and feeling the way she is, she still hurts for how he feels." – Dolores (18:03)
    • "That was probably one of the most rawest emotional scenes I’ve seen on Bravo in a really long time." – Tamra (20:07)
  • Both co-hosts deeply sympathize—discussing empathy, trauma, and the complexities of loving someone with profound loss (17:17–21:44).
  • Dolores:
    • "Everybody take note. That’s the way a relationship is supposed to go. It’s a compromise." (19:09)

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4. Friendship Betrayals and On-Screen Ambushes

Post-Dinner Fallout: Apologies and Trust

• Gigi apologizes to Sky for her own behavior; Sky is steadfast in her refusal to trust Tannen again (22:06–22:44).
• Dolores sides with Sky for feeling betrayed by a friend making a small issue public, seeing it as an intention to humiliate (22:06–22:52).
  • "It’s a big slap in the face and it’s a big wake-up call on what she’s capable of doing as a friend." – Dolores (22:52)

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5. Boys' Night & Dildo Factory Antics

Boys’ Perspectives and Sex Toy Markups

• Bam Shad struggles with defending Sky in front of the guys, showing his discomfort (23:12–23:34).
• Discussion shifts hilariously to sex toys when Gigi and Dennis showcase their business—Dolores points out the absurd markups (24:50–25:06).
  • "That plug probably cost 5 cents to make." – Dolores (25:02)
• Extended jokes about butt plug prices, sponsored posts, and accidental vibrator discoveries leave both hosts in stitches.
  • "Can you picture Paul seeing my Google search? Butt plugs." – Dolores (25:14)
  • "There's nothing worse than going into your parents’ side drawer and finding something you shouldn’t find." – Tamra (28:19)

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6. Reality TV Setups: The "Ambush" Lunch

• Unplanned Confrontation:
  • RJ invites both Sky and Tannen to lunch without telling Sky; Dolores calls it a classic "ambush" for reality TV (34:03–35:12).
    • "This is an ambush." – Dolores (34:06)
  • Tamra and Dolores debate whether they’d ever stick around in real life under such circumstances.
  • The hosts note it creates authentic, unfiltered reactions and drama, fueling the show’s appeal (35:12–36:13).
  • "Tannen knows she’s going, so she’s got all her backup lines...and Sky wasn’t prepared." – Dolores (35:48)

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7. Quick Takes on Cast, Mauricio (The "Where's Waldo" of Bravo), and the Valley’s Future

• Tamra and Dolores gush over seeing Bravo crossover legend Mauricio in the episode, highlighting his charm and charisma (37:05–38:26).
  • "He’s wealthy. He’s got swag...charisma. He has riz." – Tamra (37:26–37:33)
• The duo praise MJ’s courage and vulnerability, anticipating high drama in the season ahead.
• Sweet anecdotes about run-ins with cast members and their families (39:05–40:48).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------|-------| | 05:25 | Dolores | "If you don’t think that that dog was worthy of your cream, then I have a problem with you." | | 07:41 | Dolores | "Women that talk to their husband the way she talks...think they can talk to other people like that. Don’t ever talk to me like that." | | 08:10 | Reza (qtd. by Tamra) | "Get a grip. You are a waitress, remember?" | | 10:01 | Dolores | "You can’t have a guy that lets you boss him around all the time and have that same guy be a pit bull at a table." | | 18:03 | Dolores | "It took a real woman to say that...she still hurts for how he feels." | | 20:07 | Tamra | "That was probably one of the most rawest emotional scenes I’ve seen on Bravo in a really long time." | | 22:52 | Dolores | "It’s a big slap in the face and it’s a big wake-up call on what she could, she's capable of doing as a friend." | | 25:02 | Dolores | "That plug probably cost 5 cents to make." | | 35:48 | Dolores | "It’s not fair that Tannen’s walking in all prepared for battle...and Sky wasn’t prepared." | | 37:26–37:33 | Tamra | "He’s wealthy. He’s got swag...Charisma. He has Riz." |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:00 – 04:15: In-person taping, travel woes
• 05:09 – 06:54: The Valley’s cream-on-dog drama
• 07:37 – 08:10: Reza confronts Sky
• 09:05 – 10:38: Relationship dynamics; Sky and Bam Shad
• 17:17 – 21:44: Amar and Natasha’s emotional conversation
• 22:06 – 22:52: Gigi apologizes; Sky’s unforgiving stance
• 24:50 – 26:38: The sex toy business, butt plug jokes
• 34:03 – 36:13: Sky “ambushed” at lunch with Tannen
• 37:05 – 38:26: Mauricio makes a Bravo crossover appearance
• 39:05 – 40:48: Quick Valley cast/kid anecdotes, closing thoughts

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Final Thoughts

• Both hosts are deeply entertained by "The Valley," predicting even more explosive episodes ahead.
• Dolores and Tamra appreciate authenticity in casts and warn against fake drama for screentime.
• The episode ends with sweet Housewife nostalgia and praise for cast members' families – a fitting, light-hearted wrap to a fiery recap.

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Fans of Bravo reality, messy friendships, and savage-but-wise Housewives commentary will find this episode a lively, insightful must-listen.

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[Dolores]

Two T's in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to a special episode of Two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. We are in person. We are here.

[Dolores]

Wow, it's so nice to be in person.

[Tamara Judge]

I know in San Franc, there is a big game going on this week.

[Dolores]

There's a big game.

[Tamara Judge]

A big game going on, guys. I think you know what we're talking about going on. Yeah, yeah.

[Dolores]

A lot of concerts.

[Tamara Judge]

We're gonna see some celebrities out there.

[Dolores]

Well, let me tell you something, Tamara. If I get the chance to see you and do this pod face to face, I'm not missing it. Even if I have to wake up at 5:30 in the morning and find out my flight. I don't have good seats and have to wait to fly, drive an hour to JFK to get on another flight. And I made it.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, huge.

[Dolores]

By the grace of God, I made it because you know how hard it is to get a flight here today with the big game going on. Oh, that's right. Think about that for one second.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I hope to God when we get to the hotel they have your hotel room.

[Dolores]

Just kidding. I upgraded my hotel room too. Let's see if that goes through.

[Tamara Judge]

Hotel's nice.

[Dolores]

Don't ask me how much it cost me to get here. I'm about 16,000 deep. I actually in upgrades that I didn't get.

[Tamara Judge]

I like the hotel a lot. It's very like old money.

[Dolores]

And we were worried.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I was worried because it was hard to get a hotel room because of the.

[Dolores]

The big game.

[Tamara Judge]

The big game, yeah. But today we are going to recap the Valley because we can.

[Dolores]

Well, so I watched it on the plane.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so it's fresh in your mind.

[Dolores]

It is very fresh in my mind. I always like to watch because I have menopause brain. I always try to watch the shows like right before I come on.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I need to do because

[Dolores]

I want the emotion.

[Tamara Judge]

But then I wouldn't be able to work out.

[Dolores]

So you can't do that. Working out is very important. We need to do something for ourselves. But I have a different time zone than You.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dolores]

So I go to the gym at 9. You're still sleeping at 9. Well, you know what I'm saying.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm getting up at 6 in

[Dolores]

the morning because you go to bed at 8.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, I know. It's horrible. Well, well, well.

[Dolores]

There's a lot to. There's a really lot to unpack with this.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, I know. We need to talk about Sky. We have to. So everyone's still at dinner. Tannen is still upset that sky claims she doesn't support her business. And when she says doesn't support, it's because she rubbed her oil on her dog. Is that that big of a deal?

[Dolores]

No. And I don't like it that she feels that that's a big of a deal because that is showing my character. If you don't think that that dog was worthy of your cream, then I have a problem with you. I think there's a disconnect.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I mean, I didn't think it was that big of a deal that she rubbed the cream on the dog. Like it was. This is the thing. She like rubbed it on a spot. She had excess and she's like, just rubbed it on her dog.

[Dolores]

Oh my God. She should be so lucky that she didn't go wash her hands. She wiped it on the dog. That was. And she loves her dog. As she said, I love my dog like my kids. But here's the problem. Here's a big problem. I think Tannen should not have talked about her behind her back about it. I think that was performative. I don't know that they have a long, a long friendship. How long have they been friends, these two? Did they become friends when they decided they were going to date?

[Tamara Judge]

Did I hear it was like five years?

[Dolores]

Is it five years?

[Tamara Judge]

I thought I heard it was like a five year friendship.

[Dolores]

I know they've traveled a lot together, but guess what happens when your friend comes on the show. I know that's a test of your friendship.

[Tamara Judge]

And she said like they spend Christmas together. Like they're pretty close. Like if I have vacation. Yeah.

[Dolores]

They're like, they're like the husbands because the one's husband can't afford to go on vacation and the other husband isn't worthy enough to go on vacation because they both treat their husbands a little bit like shit, to be honest.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, I am not saying that sky is an angel because some of the things come out of her mouth.

[Dolores]

There's a lot of bad things about sky, but not this. She's not Wrong here.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think that it was a kind of overreaction. I think that Tannen went and told everybody, knowing that they would be like, oh, that's rude.

[Dolores]

And I'm surprised because when I'm watching the Valley Persian style, their dogs are in every scene. Their dogs are treated like their family. Every single person there has a scene. Why, it's almost like, listen, guys, I'm going to tell you something right now. I don't think you should have made a big deal about this. You guys have enough going on that you don't have to pick on something that really doesn't make sense.

[Tamara Judge]

Right?

[Dolores]

I don't like it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, I agree with that. Okay, but how about like Reza tells Skye she needs to talk to Tannen. When she says no, Reza calls her stuck up.

[Dolores]

Well, Reza is my heart. So I'm gonna stick up for him right now. And I'm gonna tell you why he got offensive. Because sky forgets she's not talking to her husband. She's talking to other people. Women that talk to their husband the way she talks to her husband thinks they can talk to their husband outside of that. Don't ever talk to me like that. So she snapped at him and she said, get out of my face.

[Tamara Judge]

But he wasn't in her face. He wasn't even in her room.

[Dolores]

And that's why he got mad. She has to remember who she's speaking to. She's going to learn a lot about herself filming.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I really loved when he's like, get a grip. You are a waitress, remember?

[Dolores]

Nothing like, nothing like checking you, right? Who's going to check me? Boo Raza.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I felt great when Reza went after her, but I really did.

[Dolores]

Well, you can't talk to Reza like that and for no reason. But you know what? I'm going to tell you, she was not wrong here. Tannen was 9,000% wrong.

[Tamara Judge]

She just handled this wrong.

[Dolores]

She went because she wanted.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she goes 0 to 100.

[Dolores]

You want to say why Tannen Tannen

[Tamara Judge]

made a thing about this to be relevant?

[Dolores]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dolores]

I mean, I hate to say that, but guess what? Now you're gonna. You meet your friends on this road, on this show in this.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, this guy wants. She acts like she wants off the show. She's like, I'm out of here. She's like, I'm going home. She even tells her husband I'm called an Uber. And he's like, well, wait, what do you mean? Like you're gonna go home by yourself?

[Dolores]

The Whole time that I'm watching this go down, I'm like, this would probably be the only time I'm. I'm gonna side with Sky. Secondly, I knew Bam Shad was in trouble for not being getting involved because she was taking on the whole, like, this bitch. Stop.

[Tamara Judge]

Just.

[Dolores]

He's not a confrontational guy.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores]

And I knew he was gonna get in trouble for it. A lot of husbands get in trouble for not sticking up for their wives when sometimes their wives aren't defendable. Yeah. And he's so used to her being in the wrong.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. He's like, oh, God, here she goes again.

[Dolores]

So easygoing. Like, I know. I feel bad. I knew he was gonna get in trouble.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. I know. And then sky, they. They try to talk about the situation. Sky asks him if. Why he stayed in the conversation after she left. Like, he. She expected him to leave.

[Dolores]

He was frozen. He said it. He. It's not okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I think he was a little embarrassed by her actions.

[Dolores]

But guess what? You can't have one without the other. You can't have a guy that lets you boss him around all the time and have that same guy be a pit bull at a table and fight the way you want him to fight.

[Tamara Judge]

But later we do see him go, and he says, like, I had to stick up for my wife. Like, but he was still.

[Dolores]

He was still like, a gentleman about it, and he was still like, guys, do you see the shit I'm getting at home for it? I mean, honestly, should he have stuck up for her then? Yes, but I think there's so many times he would probably not talk to anybody in the world if he was constantly defending her.

[Tamara Judge]

Gigi text sky that morning, apologized to her for behavior. At least Gigi can apologize. That's something like, sky, we just can't see her apologize. She isn't taking ownership on anything, and that's where she's going to. She's making herself look really bad.

[Dolores]

That's where. Even when she's right, she's wrong, because she has a bad kind of, like, stigma to her for the way she typically acts.

[Tamara Judge]

Bam. Chad, do you think he knows his wife is a little bit batshit crazy?

[Dolores]

I think he knows that they listen. Every couple has different dynamics. Okay? Some people speak to their husbands differently. Some guys speak to their wives differently, and they're okay with it.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

But when we're. You're out with a couple, it kind of gets uncomfortable.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

That person is all over the other person, whether it's the guy or the girl. Like, it's uncomfortable. Paul would never tolerate that. Number one. I have never been with a man who would tolerate me demeaning him in public. Never my entire life. But you know what I don't like about that type of guy? When I get upset, it's not okay. Like I never get a break because that guy never lets up on anything. You know. So at the, in the rare moment that I'm having like a, like today, I was mad about something and he actually did back down. But typically I never get that grace.

[Tamara Judge]

Right?

[Dolores]

Not just with him, with anybody. Cause I'm so easygoing that people think I should be. I never am able allowed to be in a bad mood. You know what I mean?

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And then when you do challenge him, it's like, watch out. It's like when you go after, when you went after Margaret that time, like

[Dolores]

don't get me there. I don't want to get there because I can't come back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, I understand that.

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[Dolores]

If you could control the behavior of

[Tamara Judge]

anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Narrator]

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[Mind Games Narrator]

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[Dolores]

This is wild.

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[Tamara Judge]

So Amar and Natasha talk about the vacation. Amar asks Natasha feels about the medium. She says that while she feels emotional, she wants him to be able to grieve. This was so emotional. Like I literally started. I got teary eyed during this whole conversation about, you know, the, the ex wife and do you feel like your second best? Does she feel like he loves her more than she loves.

[Dolores]

He still loves her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, it was so sad. And you saw him break down and cry and he visits her grave every year and he said, well, how about if you start going with me? That has gotta be so difficult because one of the things Natasha said was she did nothing wrong.

[Dolores]

That was the most profound. I have chills. That was the most profound statement. And it took a real woman to say that. And it takes a real woman to. Even though she's going through and feeling the way she is, she still hurts for how he feels.

[Tamara Judge]

Right?

[Dolores]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

They love each other 100%.

[Dolores]

It's nice to see.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

They make a beautiful couple. And I mean to see that type of love that you don't really often see anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

And they have three kids, right?

[Dolores]

They have three kids.

[Tamara Judge]

So they've been together for a while.

[Dolores]

Nice guy. And she's so nice. But the consideration of how he feels and what he went through by her is just, for me, is just everything.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the thing that really broke my heart is when he said, I worry that something's gonna happen to you. He loves her because of what happened with his ex wife, his first wife,

[Dolores]

she died pretty quick.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. He's worried that he is going to lose her just because, you know, of what he's gone through and that's like, oh my God, it just broke my heart so much.

[Dolores]

I'm like, he went through that at such, like, here's the thing, number one, I think they were just married and she got sick and she wasn't sick for very long before she passed away, that you have to have PTSD because you're never thinking at that age. That's the. Not the natural order of death. You know, you think an old person, you think somebody. Okay, when you start to get up in your years as a couple that's been together forever in their 70s, 80s, you start to really expect that. Not at the age that he was and not at the age that that poor girl was. But, you know, I love that he's with someone who's empathetic, compassionate, and even though she's going through what she's going through, he doesn't. She's putting her feelings aside, and he is respecting her feelings as well. And that's the way everybody take note. That's the way a relationship is supposed to go. It's a compromise.

[Tamara Judge]

It's just. It's just so heartbreaking. And just to see him break down like that and cry, and her crying, I mean, that was probably one of the most rawest emotional scenes I've seen on Bravo in a really long time. And I see her, I feel like we're going to be seeing the gravesite. I don't know why.

[Dolores]

All right, well, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

That's so emotional.

[Dolores]

But you know what? Maybe not because that's a private thing. Like, maybe her family wouldn't want to.

[Tamara Judge]

Just whenever they say, like, would you like to go to the cemetery with me once a year? Would you like to be part of that? I think that that would make her feel a little bit more comfortable. I think as long as they have been married, if Eddie was. I sort of put myself in that place. If Eddie was going off and by himself, going to his wife's wife performing grave like that, I think it would be kind of like. It wouldn't be easy. You'd have to be very understanding. It's not.

[Dolores]

It's not. But she is still considerate, like I said, of his feelings. And then, of course, on this show, they've never spoke about this before.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

And it comes out and it. I think it needed. I think this conversation needed to be had. Conversations aren't easy.

[Tamara Judge]

I also think, like, sometimes people, when they are so deeply in love and they lose their. Their spouse or significant other, it blocks them from ever wanting to be in love again. It's like, I can't go through that again. What if I. And I feel like he has a little part of that. Like he did fall in love again, but he's still like, I can't lose her. I can't lose her. I can't lose her. He's in constant fear.

[Dolores]

Ptsd.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. It's horrible.

[Dolores]

It's traumatic. It's so traumatic.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then we go to the girls night and Greg throws his boy's night.

[Dolores]

The difference of the food is hysterical.

[Tamara Judge]

By the way, Gigi has Natasha about her conversation with Sarah Sky. Sky said she is open to hearing what Tannen has to say, but she won't trust her. Why is sky that mad at Tanner?

[Dolores]

I would be that mad.

[Tamara Judge]

Would you be that mad.

[Dolores]

I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you. I would feel the same way she does. I would not trust her. I'd be like, oh, you're gonna. Oh, okay. I see where this is going.

[Tamara Judge]

We're good friends. You're gonna make something bigger to make me look bad.

[Dolores]

Yeah. No, there. It's not a little thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, it's not. It's like. That's what I'm saying. Like, we're good friends and you're going to use something that little against me with everybody around me to make me

[Dolores]

look bad, like worse than I already look like.

[Tamara Judge]

If you're my good friend, why wouldn't you come to me and say, like, well, that wasn't. I didn't think it was cool that you put your. My lotion all over your.

[Dolores]

It's the intention behind.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like she took the bottle and squeezed it all over the doll.

[Dolores]

Like she went like this and put it true.

[Tamara Judge]

Was no faces made, no comments.

[Dolores]

She wasn't knocking her at all. But if now I see you, like. Yeah, I don't blame her. A lot of people could say, this isn't a big deal for me. It's a big slap in the face and it's a. It's a big wake up call on, you know, what she could, she's capable of doing as a friend.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then the boys ask bam. Shot about Sky. He tells him that sky got angry with him and for not sticking up for her. So he at first didn't really feel comfortable talking to the guys. He's like, my wife's not here. I don't really want to talk about it.

[Dolores]

But he doesn't know how to fight.

[Tamara Judge]

He's not a fighter. He came here, he's a lover.

[Dolores]

He came here and. And all of a sudden Greg's acting like he's a big. Like, he's like, I would have stuck up for my wife. Greg, you don't stick up for yourself, bro. Bro. Come on.

[Tamara Judge]

How about Reza? The new Reza, the fake Reza? I was like, just kidding, sorry. Reza now being like the voice of reason and trying to get people I know. I kind of. He's really starting to grow on me. He's like, I'm not just a fuckboy. Like, I help my parents when they have disagreements to get back together.

[Dolores]

Oh, he's so good. He's very smart, Reza.

[Tamara Judge]

He is, but he's just got such

[Dolores]

a. I just want to kiss him and hug him all the time.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my.

[Dolores]

Of all people. Another Thing Reza, you know, it's not a bad thing that she put the cream on the dog. Come on, guys, stop it. You know, like, you. This show has so much potential. Use are all so real.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't do things just to make.

[Dolores]

Just to make. Yeah. You don't need it. Yeah, I'm telling you guys, you don't need it. The show is amazing, and you are all, like, totally upfront and transparent and entertaining, right?

[Tamara Judge]

And then you go, we're over at the Dildo Factory, and Gigi and Dennis are going through and they're showing all the product they've had.

[Dolores]

And there's a lot of products.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm.

[Dolores]

There's such a markup in sex toys, by the way. I don't know if you know that, but they're probably like, that one. That plug probably cost 5 cents to make.

[Tamara Judge]

To make. And then they're selling it for what, like 50 bucks? 50 bucks? Yep.

[Dolores]

And I don't know how much butt plugs cost, but I'm just gonna say, like, I know stuff's expensive.

[Tamara Judge]

We're gonna have to Google it. Is her website.

[Dolores]

Can you picture Paul seeing my Google search?

[Tamara Judge]

Butt plugs.

[Blue Apron Advertiser]

Stop.

[Dolores]

I'm not Googling anything.

[Tamara Judge]

And he said one time he had a girlfriend years before me that bought some, like, butt thing. He goes, you ain't touching my butt. It ain't happening. I do not want anything to that.

[Dolores]

Well, I'm sorry she wasted her money. Maybe the next guy wanted it.

[Tamara Judge]

She's like, what was it? Gigi's like, we need to make butt stuff. We got to.

[Dolores]

She was making a butt care package. For who?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know who it was for.

[Dolores]

I guess we'll find out next episode.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you think about Dennis?

[Dolores]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't. I don't know enough about him, but he. I. I don't know.

[Dolores]

I don't know enough about him.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, he looked better in his environment where he's at work. This is. I guess this is his storage unit or. I don't even know what it was. What was it?

[Dolores]

His office?

[Tamara Judge]

Was that his office?

[Dolores]

It said on his thing, it said

[Tamara Judge]

like, douche lord or something.

[Dolores]

What it say? Like, I don't know. I forget what it said, but it was like, he's got like, yeah, yeah,

[Tamara Judge]

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're going through it. They're looking at all these sex toys, I guess you call it. So Amir is with him, and he's

[Dolores]

the straightest lady embarrassed.

[Tamara Judge]

He's so embarrassed. He's like, I can't even look at these packages. And then the. You're on the COVID the packages. Like, this is so uncomfortable. Would you like a butt plug? No, I'm fine.

[Dolores]

They offered him. I was nice. They offered Tamra. They offered him. And he's just doesn't seem like that type of guy. But he's such a good guy. Like, he. So he's an attorney, correct? He's a patent. Some type of attorney, yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, would you ever go into the sex toy business?

[Dolores]

Me? No. I've had offers.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

And I passed them right along.

[Tamara Judge]

You ever done the sponsor post with the.

[Dolores]

No, I do not. I pass it along to my friends. 10,000 doll. I pass it away.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, now, so I.

[Dolores]

They asked me all the time.

[Tamara Judge]

I haven't done it in years, but I did it a long time ago. And then you can get like shadow band and stuff for good stain. Yeah.

[Dolores]

If I had no money, I wouldn't because I have to have a clean reputation. Number one.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

My son would have probably five meltdowns and my father has Instagram now.

[Tamara Judge]

I would never do it again. I did it. This is years ago. And I'm like, nowadays, like, no, wait.

[Dolores]

So one time doing that, I was dating this guy and he was moving, he was cleaning out his house. He's divorced and I guess I help. I was helping him. My dad came with me to help out clean out this big, huge, like, mansion, right? And when they went to move this hit all, like, antiques. And when they went to move it, a vibrator fell off. And my father was there. And he comes down, he goes, this fucking guy's weird. We got to get out of here. It was the ex. Wife left it. He goes, dolores, Dolores, come here. This one's a little. This guy's a little weird. Let's get the. You got to be kidding me with this guy.

[Tamara Judge]

I go, he's got butt plugs.

[Dolores]

Oh, God, Dad, I don't know what. I didn't know what to say. I just may believe I wasn't hearing him. That's so funny because you hear what I'm saying. Let's go.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, there's nothing worse than going into your parents side drawer and finding something you shouldn't find.

[Dolores]

Nothing worse.

[Tamara Judge]

Nothing worse. Nothing worse.

[Jo Winterstein]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Tamara Judge]

The Irish traveler said, when I was 16, you're gonna have a terrible time with men.

[Jo Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary, Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are Misunderstood A Sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Tamara Judge]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jo Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Mind Games Narrator]

What if mind control is real?

[Dolores]

If you could control the behavior of

[Tamara Judge]

anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Tamara Judge]

When you look at your car, you're

[Ben Higgins]

gonna become overwhelmed with such a good feelings.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Ben Higgins]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Jo Winterstein]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Ben Higgins]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Mind Games is the story of nlp, its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New Age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, nlp, might actually work.

[Dolores]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Narrator]

Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ben Higgins]

What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode I sit down with people from all walks of life celebrities, thinkers and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if youf Can Hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.

[Dolores]

This is Special Agent Riegel, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Tamara Judge]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government is onto him, but the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Dolores]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life, and that's a unicorn.

[Ben Higgins]

No one had ever seen anything like that.

[Tamara Judge]

It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the the show ends on RJ and Sky. At lunch, RJ tells Sky that Reza F. Took accountability for his behavior. I don't think Reza said or did anything too wrong. I think him and sky butt heads really bad on. On all things.

[Dolores]

I don't blame Reza for getting mad. She should have spoken to him him differently. But like I said, she's used to speaking to people like that. And the other thing was, again, she was already all worked up. She was emotional. He's coming and telling her to apologize for something I don't think she did was wrong and neither did she. And it wasn't fudgeing wrong. So I don't blame her for. For snapping at him, but I also don't blame him for getting mad for the way she spoke to him.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

Get the fuck out of my face.

[Tamara Judge]

When they get to this, because this is the second time they meet on this episode. So RJ and Sky meet somewhere else and then they meet here and she's like, well, I'm so glad you depicted like a better restaurant or something like that. I'm like, she.

[Dolores]

And there she goes.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a little snobby. She's a little snobby. So.

[Dolores]

And they're not?

[Tamara Judge]

No. The rest of the cast is not. They are not. No, no. So without telling Sky, RJ invites Tannen to lunch. And we see her walk up and she's like, are you fucking kidding me now?

[Dolores]

Let me ask you something.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you kidding me?

[Dolores]

Let me ask you something.

[Tamara Judge]

This is an ambush.

[Dolores]

I want to know right now. How would you feel, if you're very close friend, that you trust that you're you want to go and sit and talk to has you go to a restaurant and somebody you don't want to be around don't want to be around someone you just got on a fight with. Gretchen.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I'd walk out. I'd walk out. I mean, in real life or TV life.

[Dolores]

No, I'm talking real life.

[Tamara Judge]

Really. I'd walk out. There's just no way. No way. No, thank you.

[Dolores]

Okay, let's not use Gretchen because you were never friends. Let's lose. Use someone you had. You were friends with and just had a tiff with. Who would that be?

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, let's say Teddy. Let's say me and Teddy got a little tiff. I mean, that's different. I wouldn't have been like. I'd be like, okay. Like, she was, what are you doing here?

[Dolores]

She seems to be gonna entertain this, but she. She's mad. Listen, it takes. Takes the balls of another friend to be the mediator because you don't know how you're gonna be received.

[Tamara Judge]

I love seeing this, though, when on reality tv, where somebody comes to a lunch not knowing the person they're not talking to is gonna be there, and they have no idea because it's such raw footage, and it's like raw emotion. Like.

[Dolores]

Like, really?

[Tamara Judge]

Like, are you serious right now, Dolores?

[Dolores]

Really? And, you know, the only thing is the advantages. Tannin knows she's going, so she's got her all. Everything what to say. She's got her all her backup lines. She's got everything she wants to throw in her face. And sky doesn't have the. You got to be quick on your feet. And she wasn't prepared.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

Get my point? Like, it's not fair that Tannen's walking in all prepared for battle with every.

[Tamara Judge]

Sky's not.

[Dolores]

Yes, with every.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I don't like those situations, period.

[Dolores]

I don't like it, but I don't think it's fair. And I wouldn't. I'll tell you, I wouldn't do it. I'd say, you're fucking coming. You gotta come. We're filming a fucking show. You want your job?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

You're gonna come.

[Tamara Judge]

Definitely. Definitely.

[Dolores]

But I'm not gonna do this behind your back. But you're gonna show up and then do what you want when you get there.

[Tamara Judge]

But it made me want to see next week's episode. When I saw that, I'm like, okay,

[Dolores]

it's a great show. I think it's a really amazing show. MJ's very upfront, and then MJ gets in a fight with Tommy next week. Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Amazing. I wonder, do they actually separate on the show or when the show ends? That's what I'm curious to see.

[Dolores]

Oh, I don't know. You could see.

[Tamara Judge]

It's.

[Dolores]

I. I would find it's the beginning of the season. It's already. They're like. It's insufferable between the two of them. There's such a. There's such a lot of resentment and hate. And, I mean, MJ's just kind of over it, and she's trying to, like, get her job going because, you know, she's probably thinking, I'm gonna have to support myself.

[Tamara Judge]

Just like, where's Waldo? We got to see another.

[Dolores]

I was gonna say. Let's talk about that for a second. Mauricio.

[Tamara Judge]

We get to see Mauricio. I will say, though, this scene, he didn't bother me so much, like, as if he's, like, thirsty, but because it was in his element, and he was a businessman, and I could see where

[Dolores]

women would find, like, oh, 100% attraction. He's. Yeah, you know, I get it.

[Tamara Judge]

He's wealthy. He's got swag.

[Dolores]

Charisma.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he does. He has Riz. Yeah, he's got Riz.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But we saw Mauricio. This is like the third time we've seen him. Like, he's been, what, in Salt Lake? He's been on Beverly Hills and now Potomac and now the show. So he's. He's making his way.

[Dolores]

Well, I don't mind seeing him.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I think I like the way he's.

[Dolores]

I like to see his personalities. He's a gentleman with the women. He really is.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

Was lovely. And mj, everybody says nice things about him. I don't personally know him.

[Tamara Judge]

I've met him a few times. He's nice. He's a nice guy.

[Dolores]

I feel like I've met him once or twice, but I'd have to say. And, you know, even on. On tv, I. I mean, I know behind the scenes, behind closed doors, things probably weren't always easy. But I'm gonna say I could see where he got in trouble. I could see where he could have gotten in trouble.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah.

[Dolores]

Charismatic.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Well, that's it. And we will be back next week, and it looks like it's gonna be really explosive episode.

[Dolores]

But, guys, I want to just say. And don't we love them. Love the Valley.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Love the Valley.

[Dolores]

You're doing a great job.

[Tamara Judge]

Doing a great job. So at the hotel, we are in San Francisco. At the hotel. I saw Lala. I saw Brittany.

[Dolores]

Oh, the. Oh, the Og Valley.

[Tamara Judge]

The Og Valley. And Janet is here.

[Dolores]

Oh, good. I like Janet. I met her at BravoCon. Janet was really cute.

[Tamara Judge]

And then we were at lunch day, me and Eddie and Gia and her boyfriend came in and she was so sweet.

[Dolores]

She's a respectful girl.

[Tamara Judge]

She's lovely. She's very sweet. We were talking about the show, and I said, yeah, my daughter Sophia wants to move to New York and she'd love to be on the New York version. She's like, well, they're doing an LA one. I go, she don't want to live in LA now. She wants to live in New York.

[Dolores]

She's a New York girl. Yeah, she's Sophia, her boyfriend in New York.

[Tamara Judge]

She's like, have her call me, like, and all this stuff, like, oh, I'll give you the connections. And she was just so sweet.

[Dolores]

Teresa has nice kids.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, she could have easily went, oh, okay, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, she's like, how can I help? Like, she's lovely.

[Dolores]

When you go to Theresa's house, they get up, they kiss you hello. They help their mother. They love their mother. They're very good kids.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's sweet.

[Dolores]

And they are. They're good to each other. She raised good girls good.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she really did. She's very, very sweet.

[Dolores]

And I like Joe. You don't know Joe Giudice that well, do you?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores]

You would like him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we've. We went to dinner. You weren't there. This is early Jersey. What season did you come on?

[Dolores]

I came season seven, but I was always. I was season one then. I didn't work out for me then. And then I was always kind of. Kind of in the back. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So one year I was in New York for Watch Happens Live, and I met Theresa, Joe, Jacqueline, Chris and Carolyn.

[Dolores]

Oh, see?

[Tamara Judge]

And we went to dinner.

[Dolores]

We were always going, oh, very. He's very funny, Joe.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it was so funny. So we went to dinner and then we walked across the street. There was a gay bar across the street, and we went there and he was ordering shots for everybody.

[Dolores]

He's lovely.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

He always liked company, always liked having a good time. He always liked cooking for everyone.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I feel bad that he's gone. Like, he can't be in town, but. Okay, thank you so much, guys, for tuning in, and we'll see you next week.

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[Dolores]

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[Dolores]

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[Dolores]

This is Special Agent Riegel, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Tamara Judge]

In 2018, the FBI took down a ring of spies working for China's Ministry

[Ben Higgins]

of State Security, one of the most

[Tamara Judge]

mysterious intelligence agencies in the world. The Sixth Bureau Podcast is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jo Winterstein]

Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change, Dance with the breakdown, the embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart.

[Jo Winterstein]

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Dolores]

This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.