By Order of the Faithfuls: Dolores’ Not-So-Soft Spot (S3 E9 & 10)

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Podcast Summary: "By Order of the Faithfuls: Dolores’ Not-So-Soft Spot (S3 E9 & 10)"

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
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Episode Date: December 12, 2025

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of "By Order of the Faithfuls" recaps episodes 9 and 10 of Season 3 of The Traitors, featuring guest Dolores Catania alongside co-host 12 Adams. The discussion gives an insider's perspective on the season’s dramatic endgame, spotlighting major moves, betrayals, shifting alliances, and intense emotional moments. Dolores shares firsthand insights as both participant and ultimate winner, dissecting player strategies and her own experiences in the game’s late stages.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Behind the Scenes: NDAs, Leaks, and Housewives Culture

• The hosts discuss stringent NDAs and the culture of secrecy around reality competitions like The Traitors, noting not even press or "Watch What Happens Live" get screeners. (04:40)

  • "Good for them, because you'll never get a leak. We're all... scared of our lives because [of] the huge contract NDA thing." — Dolores (04:40)

• Dolores reflects on Hyphen Dorinda’s appearance and her iconic line: “Not well,” noting it’s a Housewives catchphrase and shares her admiration for Dorinda. (03:49-04:16)

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2. Game Strategy & Emotional Play: Carolyn, Danielle, and Big Moves

Carolyn and Danielle in the Turret

• Early in S3E9, Carolyn and Danielle’s uneasy alliance is highlighted; Danielle pushes to recruit Brittany as a traitor, but Carolyn holds her ground. (05:05)
  • "She stood her ground." — Dolores (05:35)
  • "It’s just a matter of who’s able to get the other out first." — 12 Adams (05:36)

Danielle's Emotional Gameplay

• Dolores recalls her early suspicion of Danielle: “The way she kind of acted, kind of quirky, all over the place, emotionally crying... my spidey senses went right to the weirdo crier…” (07:16)
• The significance of emotional displays: Both see crying as manipulative or distracting, signaling Danielle’s unique game style.

Banishing and Killing: Sam and Dylan

• Sam's elimination is debated; Dolores argues he wasn’t a threat yet, Dylan was more dangerous due to his voice and insight.
  • “Had I been a traitor, he [Dylan] would have been gone.” — Dolores (10:23)
• The theme of underestimation, especially of Carolyn, is emphasized—Dolores notes it's “nice to be underestimated; it served her really well.” (05:44)

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3. Iconic Challenge Moments and Returning Legends

The Giant Chess Mission (S3E9)

• Players participate in a dramatic chess-themed challenge, with franchise legends Kate and Parvati returning in elaborate costumes.
  • “It was so nice to see them and they looked amazing. Their costumes were insane... Alan’s outfit was so cute.” — Dolores (15:47)
• Carolyn’s apparent defense of Tom during the challenge is discussed as possible crush or strategy. Brittany’s dramatic crying at its end triggers Dolores:
  • “I wanted punch her in the face... Now, looking back, if I was to play again, would trigger me.” — Dolores (17:04)
• Tom’s constant volunteering is seen as “delightfully delusional”:
  • “He’s so dumb you almost start to like him.” — Dolores (18:03)
  • “He is very Delulu... it’s his own world, we’re all just living in Tom world.” — Dolores (18:14)

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4. Endgame Tensions: Accusations, Trust, and Betrayal

Post-Challenge Theories & the Roundtable

• After the challenge, shifting suspicions emerge—Dylan is convinced Carolyn is the traitor, while Carolyn emotionally pleads her case. Dolores recounts believing Danielle due to a personal off-camera swear:
  • “She swore on her kids to me... and I was raised not to lie.” — Dolores (19:13)
• Tom’s antagonism towards Dolores is dissected:
  • “It was more like Tom just at me... kind of like bullying me instead of going after the traitors.” — Dolores (20:24)
  • “I think Tom likes to just pick on nice people.” — Dolores (21:08)

Dramatic Roundtables & Evictions

• At a tense roundtable, Danielle and Carolyn “couldn’t hate each other more”, with Carolyn’s emotionality both hurting and helping her.
  • “There wasn’t a day she wasn’t extremely emotional… Carolyn is what you see is what you get.” — Dolores (22:25)
• Dylan has the deciding vote, banishing Carolyn—who is revealed as a traitor, shocking everyone.
• Danielle’s wild reaction is recounted: convulsing, falling to the floor, Gabby (a nurse) checking her pulse; even host Alan breaks character in surprise. (24:04)
  • “It was the most insane thing I ever saw... Gabby’s a critical care nurse... she was full of shit.” — Dolores (24:55)

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5. Alliances Shift: Danielle Recruits Brittany

• Danielle recruits Brittany as a traitor; Brittany sees the risk: “Not going to trust Danielle getting her to the end after what she did to her.” — Dolores (45:38)
• Dolores expresses admiration for Brittany’s gameplay as noted by Derek: “Do not pass her up, do not sleep on Brittany. She’s smarter than all... she’s up there.” (26:10)

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6. Final Missions and The “Seer” Twist

• In a physically challenging mission with gold coins, the “seer” twist is introduced: winner can confront a player and learn their allegiance. Brittany wins after Dolores realizes she’d forgotten coins in her pocket.
  • "I would have picked Gabby because Dylan was saying, 'I think she is [a traitor]', and we couldn't afford another mistake." — Dolores (31:38)
• Discussion on the risks of being the Seer—if you out a traitor, you paint a target on your back. (31:59)

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7. The Home Stretch: Final Votes and Betrayals

• Tension escalates as Brittany campaigns hard pre-roundtable, raising later suspicion. Gabby and Danielle go head-to-head, with Gabby presenting a strong case and standing up to Danielle.
  • “I don't know if I'd ever want to go against Danielle in any argument, but Gabby, like, holds her own. She's very articulate.” — 12 Adams (39:36)
• Dolores points to Ivar as a possible traitor due to his detachment and prior conflicts.
  • “When Dorinda got murdered, it was after her argument with Ivar... Ivar had mishaps and then [people] were murdered.” — Dolores (40:24)
• First ever vote-tie at roundtable between Danielle and Ivar leads to a re-vote, with Brittany ultimately flipping against Danielle.
  • Dolores clarifies Brittany tried to make it appear Dolores pushed her: “It was just something that she set up to justify the name that she wrote down.” — Dolores (42:26)

The Danielle-Brittany Betrayal

• Danielle’s heartbreak at Brittany’s betrayal: “You did it to me again... it was almost like the scorpion and the toad story: Now we both die.” — Dolores (45:20)
• Irony: Danielle’s plan to get revenge on Brittany backfires, as Brittany is the one to take her out.

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8. Reflections on Endgame and Next Season

• Dolores admits she should have voted against Danielle sooner, but this mistake fueled her correct final vote: “I was so disgusted with myself... it was the deciding factor in my next vote.” (43:24)
• The anticipation builds for Season 4, especially with more Housewives at the roundtable: “The Bravo universe is going to marry into the Trader's universe...” — Dolores (46:56)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & TIMESTAMPS

• “It’s nice to be underestimated. It served her really well this season.” — Dolores (05:44)
• “I wanted to punch her in the face... these are things, now looking back, if I was to play again, would trigger me.” — Dolores on Brittany’s tears (17:04)
• “He’s so dumb you almost start to like him.” — Dolores on Tom (18:03)
• “I had more gold in my pocket. I was the seer. But then Brittany won…” — Dolores, on the 'seer' mission mishap (31:12)
• “You did it to me again... it was almost like the scorpion and the toad story: Now we both die.” — Dolores on Danielle and Brittany’s emotional roundtable moment (45:20)
• “The Bravo universe is going to marry into the Trader's universe at that roundtable.” — Dolores (46:56)

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IMPORTANT TIMESTAMPS

• 04:40: Discussion of strict NDAs and franchise secrecy
• 05:05-05:44: Carolyn and Danielle’s alliance, Danielle pushing to recruit Brittany
• 07:16-08:08: Dolores' early suspicions of Danielle
• 15:47-18:14: Recap of the chess mission, celebrity drop-ins, and Tom’s unique energy
• 19:13-21:14: Dolores' trust in Danielle and tensions with Tom
• 22:25-24:04: Emotional roundtable, Carolyn’s banishment
• 24:55: Danielle's over-the-top reaction to being exposed as traitor
• 26:10: Praise for Brittany’s strategic smarts
• 31:12: Challenge mishap where Dolores misses out on 'seer' because of forgotten coins
• 39:36-41:22: Pre-roundtable politicking, Gabby vs. Danielle, suspicion shifts
• 42:26: Dolores explains Brittany’s tactic in shifting blame
• 45:20: Emotional fallout as Danielle realizes Brittany has betrayed her
• 46:56: Teasers for Season 4 and the Housewives-Traders crossover

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FINAL TAKEAWAYS

This episode delivers an insider look at the shifting alliances, emotional high-wire acts, and ruthless strategy that define The Traitors endgame. Dolores Catania’s candid, sometimes brutal honesty about cast members and gameplay choices makes for a revealing and engaging listen, while the hosts tee up anticipation for an even more explosive Season 4. Listeners get a blend of humorous shade, strategic breakdown, and genuine behind-the-scenes anecdotes that fans of reality TV will love.

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[12 Adams]

All you faithfuls and traders welcome into another episode of by order the Faithfuls 12 Adams alongside Dolores Catania.

[Dolores Catania]

Hi.

[12 Adams]

We're missing Tanner today. Where's she at?

[Dolores Catania]

You know, she had a doctor's appointment, so. No. Yeah.

[12 Adams]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Everything's good.

[12 Adams]

Nice. You missed last week, but we had a very fun interview with Dorinda.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, Dorinda is amazing. She's funny, she's smart. She. I can't wait to see her this season. So we'll have to have her on again, of course.

[12 Adams]

I tried to get as much information out of her as possible, but she'd.

[Dolores Catania]

That work?

[12 Adams]

Not well. She is very scared of an NDA.

[Dolores Catania]

I think we all are when it came to that. But there's a saying in the housewife world. It's called not well. That's how you say it. I believe Dorinda said it, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, but one of the catchphrases in our things. But she's. She's. She's something else, that Dorinda.

[12 Adams]

Well, I think that she's gonna do really, really good on the show. And I'm excited. We found out when the new season of Traders is coming out. What was it, January 8th?

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, that's my sister's birthday.

[12 Adams]

And so we'll be putting out episodes, so episodes come out on Thursday. So we'll be putting out episodes, I think the next day. Because they don't send us screeners, which is rude, but.

[Dolores Catania]

No, they are. They do not mess around. They don't even send screeners to watch what happens live, because. Yes. Mm. I know they don't. They do not mess around. And you know what? Good for them, because you'll never get a leak. And we're all, like, scared of our lives because in the huge contract NDA thing is, like, we will literally edit you out of the season.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You won't see that coming from here.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. All right, well, you want to get into this episode where, I mean, we're nearing the end of this season. We've got season episode nine and episode ten. Recap. Yeah. It starts with, you know, Caroline and Danielle in the turret. You know, all is well with them. It's Kumbaya. And they just love hanging out with. With one another. It seems like in that tour. And despite Danielle begging to recruit Britney as a trader. Caroline refuses.

[Dolores Catania]

She stood her ground.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, she did. At this point, it's. It's just a matter of who's able to get the other out first. Right.

[Dolores Catania]

And she knows that Carolyn is not messing around now. You know, she always feels like she's not hurt because of her personality, and. Yeah, and I understand that, but it's nice to be underestimated.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. I mean, it served her really well this entire season. And if you ask me, of all the traders that we've had, I thought that she actually played the smartest game up until this point. She just kept on kind of getting blindsided by Danielle. And, you know Danielle, I just. She's just not someone to mess with. And, you know, eventually she's gonna get, you know, her revenge on Carolyn, I guess. Everyone arrives at the breakfast next morning, and Gabby is. Well, I know Gabby smart because I know her from the Bachelor world. I mean, she comes across as this, like, Jennifer Coolidge.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, no, she's inherently smart.

[12 Adams]

Oh, yeah. But she's got this whole, like, she's a high iq. I take the dog's dumb ass. But really, she's very, very smart. She pitches this theory to Caroline that Danielle is a traitor. Carolyn agrees. They both think Danielle's crying over the top and her alibi isn't good enough. You were there was her, like, waterworks and shaking like a child.

[Dolores Catania]

The beginning. So from the very beginning. And I like Danielle. I. I do. I like her a lot. But she was even before she was picked as a traitor. Okay.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I kind of honed in on her the way she kind of acted kind of quirky all over the place, emotionally crying as soon as she saw Britney, because Britney and her have a past. They did Reindeer Games, and Britney turned on her during Reindeer Games. So here I am, not the crier. So I'm like, my spidey senses are going right to the weirdo crier in the group when we first get there, and did you notice that she was, like, crying and there was, like, some animosity and she was like. So I was like, always, like, right from there, I was like. But I kind of, like, it grew on me because, you know, there's so much other stuff going on in your head at this point.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

That you. You kind of, like, are letting things go that you would have normally looked at. I want to say.

[12 Adams]

Totally. I mean, I wish I got to stay that long because I think at some point, because it happens, like, on my show where when people start acting really goofy, I just end up going into the interview room and just being like, they're. They're annoying me like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Right.

[12 Adams]

That's right.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, you knew a crier.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I.

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[12 Adams]

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[Dolores Catania]

You know how that goes with me.

[12 Adams]

Oh, yeah, you. You have such. Such a soft spot for those. You do. Do you think that Sam was a good person to get rid of from the traitor's perspective?

[Dolores Catania]

Not yet. Well, he just started speaking up. Yeah, I. Dylan was such a strong force.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know why they kept him.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, and he was the one that was usually right about traitors, too. Like, he was kind of hounding first one.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, he clocked Bob the Drag Queen at first, but then what happened was he lost a little credibility with me moving forward because he was wrong quite a bit after the first kill.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

After. After getting. So then I was like, yeah, but Dylan, you also thought Bob Harper was one. And you also, like, you were like, so sure. Like, you were like, yeah, I'm telling you. And then you also thought, who else was it? Oh, Robin. Robin's a traitor. I'm telling you, she's a traitor. Which she wasn't until he got eviscerated by her. Because, you know, you got to think twice before you go after a housewife to her face. You could kill her while she's sleeping, but don't fight her at the round table.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, she got me out, that's for sure. Sam getting. Getting murdered, I thought was. It's an okay move, you know, like, listen, Sam was starting to catch on to some things. I will give him that credit. And he did seem like such a faithful that, like, he would never be banished, so it makes sense for traders to get rid of him. But I agree with you on the Dylan aspect, and I think Dylan agrees with you too, because he starts thinking like, well, the only reason why I'm still alive is because someone who's a traitor trusts me.

[Dolores Catania]

Right?

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So. But still, so what if he trusted them as a traitor? He was also smarter and had a stronger voice. Had I been a traitor trader, he would have been gone. Now. If they would have chose him, there would have been a very different ending. Yeah, think about that.

[12 Adams]

You know, watching it back, it's amazing how close all of you that won were to getting murdered or banished. Like, every episode, you know, people are going after you. People are going after Ivor in the next episode. Yeah, it's. It's a fine line to get to the. Get all the way to the end. You know, it's interesting, you know, everyone's strategizing after breakfast and Dylan, Gabby and Caroline are all certain that Danielle is a traitor. And it's interesting because, like, obviously hindsight's 2020 and like, that all that switches up. Right. But I'm amazed that, like, you get that those three didn't, like, hold on to that until they got to the round table.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I don't know how that turned really, and why. I'm not too sure. I was just actually brushing up on it and watching it. But you know Danielle saying, speaking to Britney in front of the fireplace, right? Yeah, saying. And Britney saying, I just don't want to be here without you. And then Danielle crying in her interview was a load of bollocks. I believe that Danielle had an agenda to carry Britney to the end, to stab her in the back in front of the fire pit because of what happened before in their previous life. I almost feel like Danielle wanted her to be a traitor so she could do that to her. Yeah, that's how I feel. And I will stand on that till the end. I really wish. I'm glad I won, but I would have liked to see her stab her in the back in the end.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

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[12 Adams]

We get to the Mission. This is a pretty fun one. Playing a giant game of chess where they'll have to answer questions the way the traders would. And then we get two, you know, kind of like queens of past seasons in Kate and Parvati showing up. Are you guys excited to see them?

[Dolores Catania]

We were, yeah. Well, you have to understand we've been there a long time now. We haven't seen anybody but each other and we haven't seen our families, we haven't seen our friends, our pets and here's like familiar faces. And I happen to be very close with Kate, so it was so nice to see them and they looked amazing. Their costumes were insane and it was a very dramatic game because these big chess pieces come out and Alan's outfit was so cute, so it was pretty cool. And then there was a lot going on. You started to see some weird reactions from everybody. Like you saw that Carolyn looked like she was sticking up for Tom and I noticed that and I was like, does she have a crush on him or like, what's going on? And then Brittany started crying at the end of the game because she felt she was being set up by the traitors. But, like, hysterical crying again. You know how I felt about that? I wanted to punch her in the face. And she was. And I was like, what the hell? And see, these are things. Now, looking back, if I was to play again, would trigger me.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, well, it triggered a lot of people. I think you kind of called it out, too. You were like, but you said that. You said this other name. And then she said, no, I didn't say that. And it was like, what are you talking about? You. You totally did. I know how much you love Tom. Was it annoying that he kept on volunteering himself for answering?

[Dolores Catania]

It was actually what everyone figured he would do.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It was no surprise. I've never seen anything like it in my life. He was so serious. Did you see his confessional? He's like, of course it's gonna be me. I'm like, oh. I like, that's the real Tom. That's, like, not even an act. That's, like, really him. It's. It's comical. Like, Paul, my boyfriend, my fiance, now Paul watching it kind of like. It's almost like. You ever see a dog? It's so ugly. It's cute. It's like, he's so dumb. You have to, like. You hate him so much, you almost start to like him.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And. But I never, like, went to that edge of liking him.

[12 Adams]

But, yeah, he's delightfully delusional.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. He's Delulo.

[12 Adams]

He is very Delulu.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. He's in Tom world. It's his own world.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. We're all just living in. In Tom world.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. 100. He's like, I'm the best, and I played the best, and I'm just so good and amazing. Are you not affected by how people feel about you?

[12 Adams]

Yeah. So after the challenge, there's a bunch of new theories that come out.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, yeah, totally.

[12 Adams]

Like, Carolyn's still pushing Danielle's name, but Dylan's more convinced Carolyn's a traitor now. Ivor and Tom didn't think Carolyn could pull it off, which I think that she, like, in that respect. Like, I thought she played a really good game in terms of. Everyone's like, there's no way she could do it, even though she was doing a pretty good job of it. Carolyn starts to get emotional as she pleads her case to Dylan, and Danielle finds out that Carolyn's been pushing her name. I mean, these two traders Couldn't hate each other more. You were there after the mission, before the roundtable. What were you thinking?

[Dolores Catania]

I was so confused and I was being left out of all the theories because of course, I did trust Danielle because again, off camera, she swore on her kids to me. We were in a group. She's like, I swear on my kids, I am not a traitor. And once you do that. And my father's a preacher and I was raised not to lie. And I was like, oh, well, okay. And I didn't know a lot about the gaming world and what. Carolyn stuck up for me very much by saying, dolores, it's not her fault for believing that. She doesn't know gamers. She doesn't know that this is what we do. So anyway. But I wasn't really. I was still confused and I was still fighting terribly with Tom. Tom was on my back that day so bad, all day, coming after me, coming after me. And I couldn't get. I couldn't see through my hate for him. Hate is a strong word. Dislike.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Was. Was everyone else in the house, aside from you and Tom. Like, guys, we know it's not either of you. Let's. Let's really focus on maybe Carolyn or Danielle or someone else.

[Dolores Catania]

It was more like Tom just at me.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I. I wasn't starting it. He wouldn't let up on me. Is like, kind of like bullying me instead of like going after the traitors, which he, at that point I heard, believed that Carolyn was a traitor.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But was trying to, I think, put it on me so that she wouldn't get banished. So I was just trying to survive at that point.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Because he had a good relationship with Carolyn, so that he was thinking that. That she was a shield for him.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. Exactly.

[12 Adams]

Well, that's not a terrible.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, no, he. I mean, I think that's what he was doing.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But I almost. Almost felt like he just didn't like me. Like, Tom just honed in on me and said, I'm just gonna pick on her.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Why do you think he didn't like you?

[Dolores Catania]

I think that Tom likes to just, like, pick on nice people.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I think, like, if you're not nasty enough to him, he takes it as a weakness.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. So at the roundtable. This is a good roundtable. And Carolyn and Danielle are just going head to head. Danielle is very good at arguing a lot of points against Carolyn. It's hard, but it's hard for people to believe that she could pull it all off. Carolyn starts to get emotional because she feels like no one's listening to her, which happens a lot because of her personality. Dylan has the deciding vote. He votes for Carolyn. Who? Carolyn thought that Dylan and he were like besties.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, if you remember, there was a scene where he said to Carolyn, I have your back.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So she was never expecting that.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

That's rough when that happens. And you don't expect it at that. At this stage in the game.

[12 Adams]

I know that you had, you know, like blinders on for Tom and Tom for you, but did you think that Carolyn was a traitor? Like when, when you guys were all writing down the, on the chalkboards and when she walks up there, are you thinking.

[Dolores Catania]

I didn't. You didn't. I thought Brittany was. I didn't think Danielle. I didn't think Carolyn was. Because she was. There wasn't a day where she wasn't extremely emotional. And from our past traders, you had to really have your head together. Like, we're talking Phaedra, you know, Boston Rob, Bob, the drag queen. She wasn't in the, in the line of the traders and how they were like, very manipulating and calculating.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

As far as I, I thought she was a great trader, though. I thought she was great.

[12 Adams]

I thought she was fantastic. And it just goes to show you that you can play the game in so many different ways and still be, like, relatively successful. I kind of like the like chaotic energy thing that she, she did, because I think it definitely threw. I mean, whether that's really her personality or she's kind of like, you know, amplifying it, we know that's her.

[Dolores Catania]

No, that's her personality. Carolyn is what you see is what you get. But she also is a good person.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

In real life, she's like a really good person. And I thought it weighed heavy on her. I think her decisions from the very beginning were underestimated because she was right. She was the first one to say, let's not go for all the housewives. This is getting ridiculous. They don't know how to play the game. Why don't we leave them to get banished? She was always giving good information, but she was being over talked by the rest of the people there. And then Danielle kind of was just kind of overpowering her at the round table.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. At this point, well, it's. It's revealed that Carolyn is a traitor. Everyone freaks out. Danielle falls to the floor and she starts shaking and crying, convulsing. What was that? Like, what's going on here?

[Dolores Catania]

Or was that a Alan actually broke character?

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And he Was like staring at her like, what the.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Like it was so she was going like this on the ground. It was crazy. It was the most insane, sane thing I ever saw. It was like, oh, my God. I, I actually was again just annoyed by it. Like. And Gabby's at critical care nurse. She's an rn, so she was like checking her pulse and she know she was full of. It was crazy.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Speaking of Gabby, she's on to Danielle. She is like, that's traitor on trader violence.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes.

[12 Adams]

Which was so right. And she's starting to, like, build all the evidence up. Even Britney's starting to agree with her. So then Danielle heads the turret alone. Per the rules. She now has to recruit someone to join her. I think we all know who she's going to recruit. After she recruits, they make a murder. Britney is called down to the dungeon to make to meet the traitor for the recruitment. She wonders if it's Danielle, which he thinks it would be too obvious for the two of them to be traitors together. I agree with Brittany. Not.

[Dolores Catania]

Brittany is a very. So Derek warned us about Brittany from day one.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

She's like, he, she, he's like, she's ruthless. She's got that, you know, wholesome face and, you know, the Karen of the world. Like, she goes, I'm a Karen?

[12 Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

She's cute, she's little, she's funny, she's smart. But Derek said, do not pass her up, do not sit, do not sleep on Brittany.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So, yeah, she's smart. She's smarter than all, all of the. The ex boss. She's up there.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. So Daniel offers her the ultimatum. She joins, obviously, because what else you gonna do? Then they go back to the turret. Danielle tells Brittany that she was losing her mind with Carolyn. Danielle and Brittany feel like Dylan and you are the two most trusted allies. But Brittany tells Danielle that Tom and Gabby are on to her.

[Dolores Catania]

I was. I had never gone back to my room and wrote things down.

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[Dolores Catania]

Until then, that, that night.

[12 Adams]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Because I was. I was convinced that I was going to go to breakfast and I was going to convince everyone to get rid of tomorrow.

[12 Adams]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

And I did because I had had enough of him. Why is he still here? I was like, even if he makes it to the Torah, even if he makes it to the fire pit, and he is a faithful, he's going to count us out. He's all for himself. I had all these things against him and he didn't show up. I was like, almost pissed off that I didn't get to get rid of him.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, but you must have been a little happy that he was the one who got murdered.

[Dolores Catania]

I was pissed off for a second, and then I was happy that he was finally murdered. And I should have realized that Britney was recruited every morning. She said, why is he still here?

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Dolores, you're not buying Danielle's lies. You think that Danielle is loyal and trustworthy.

[Dolores Catania]

I think she's just annoying. I didn't think she was a traitor because she. Whatever.

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[12 Adams]

No, you're not. You won this freaking game.

[Dolores Catania]

I did, but you know what I said? I picked the first and the last trader, and that's the ones that counted.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, that's very true. Meanwhile, Danielle joins Gabby in one of the rooms, and they don't say a word to each other. It was. It's very funny. Gabby is so good on tv, and she's just like, I'm sitting here with a murderer and I'm not gonna move. I love her so much. Dylan is starting to become convinced that Gabby could be a traitor. Did you believe that Gabby could be a traitor?

[Dolores Catania]

She was smart enough to be a traitor.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But I didn't get the trader vibe from her. I got. I would get it from Danielle or Brittany before her.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. My thing was, is I would always be like, well, what would producers want? Like, what makes the best television show possible? And I could see myself believing that Gabby would be a traitor because having her in, like, having more screen time for her, I think would be good for the TV show. Right. Like having her in Interview, having her in the turret so I can see kind of where Dylan is coming from on this.

[Dolores Catania]

But why not Ivor? Like, Iver was under the radar.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

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[Dolores Catania]

He wasn't really attached to anybody. But now Dylan, you know, he didn't have a connection to anyone. And the way that. And this is how I really felt, the way the traitors killed people. It made sense for Ivor to be a traitor because he had no idea who anyone was.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

At the round table, he didn't know housewives were housewives and didn't know how to play the game. He didn't know gamers. So it was such an erratic way of the way they murdered and things like that. It made me think that Iver, being so unattached to everyone and everything, would have played that way.

[12 Adams]

He even says, like, at the. At breakfast, like, I haven't learned everyone's name yet.

[Dolores Catania]

That's what I mean. Like, why wouldn't Iver be the one to Just, you know, kill murder erratically.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

There was no rhyme or reason for the way they picked their murders.

[12 Adams]

So this mission was pretty fun. You know, a walk down memory lane. And whoever captures the most gold becomes this quote unquote seer. And the Seer will be able to choose one player to have a face to face meeting with. And that player will have to disclose whether they're a faithful or a traitor. Was. Was everyone trying to win this or were there some people that were just like, I don't care what was happening.

[Dolores Catania]

We were all trying to win it.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And I even said to Alan when he explained us to the game, what if a traitor becomes the Seer? Like, I'm still. It was a little confusing to me. So to let you know, we do this disgusting mission. There's like rotten food, we're all gagging, throwing up. While we're getting the coins, we're bringing it, put it in. And it's so cold and it's so rainy. I couldn't feel my hands anymore. So I was putting the coins in my pocket. So some of the coins were in my pocket. I would put them in because my hands were numb. I had more gold in my pocket. I was the seer.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But then Brittany won. But I had like 5 coins in my pocket, which would have made me win that.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So then after they picked Brittany, I went in my pocket and I felt all the coins. I'm like, wait, I forgot to put these in. He goes, too late.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It's so weird the way events happened.

[12 Adams]

Who do you think you would have requested to meet with?

[Dolores Catania]

Gabby.

[12 Adams]

Really?

[Dolores Catania]

At that point, I needed to know Gabby for sure. She was the only one. I really wasn't like, you know, I was like, I really want. I don't want her to be a traitor. So I would have picked Gabby because Dylan was like saying, I think she is. We couldn't. There was no more room for another mistake.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It was too close to the end.

[12 Adams]

I know. But here's the thing. Like, it's a. It's a double edged sword, right? Like, let's say you do choose someone and they are a traitor, and then you have that information and you go back to that, to the castle. Now, do you tell everyone that that person is a traitor or do you not in fear of that person being able to convince everyone else that they're not a traitor and then you get murdered the next day? You know, like, there is some danger in becoming the Seer.

[Dolores Catania]

Here's the thing. You have to tell everyone else. Because now you're in danger because you know who it is. Yeah, they have to kill you.

[12 Adams]

Very true.

[Dolores Catania]

So you might as well let everybody know.

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[12 Adams]

Dylan starts realizing how badly Danielle wants to the Seer, and that becomes suspicious to him. Were you suspicious of anybody during that mission?

[Dolores Catania]

During the mission? No. Because I hate being cold and I hate being wet. And that's all I was. I was. We were all spent. Our brains were fried. Spent. It's to the end now, and it's. It's rough. Like, you're lucky you can even think at this point. It's getting to be. We're there now. Three weeks.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It's a long time.

[12 Adams]

You're ready to go home?

[Dolores Catania]

No, but I need warm.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. So Alan reveals that the Seer is going to be revealed after the round table. You could have won that, but you didn't. But we don't know who it is at this point.

[Dolores Catania]

Right, Brittany?

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Who was the traitor?

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Which is great.

[Dolores Catania]

Picking Gabby, by the way. Gabby was on the chopping block. Gabby for Dylan. Dylan. At this point, I was just kind of going along with Dylan. I looked up to him as a leader. He was smart, he was trustworthy. And whether he was a traitor or not, I was going to stand by him because he was like. I just felt like I could trust him. He trusted me first.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And that meant a lot to me. So I was like, you know, I just felt like, all right. He's like, gabby is at breakfast. We go to breakfast. And he's like, I think it's Gabby. I'm like, well, I'm gonna have to go along with you. I'm kind of trusting you now. Like, I'm here to trust you. And then Gabby comes in. He thought it was either Gabby or Brittany. And then Gabby comes in, and I look at him. I go, well, that just blew it out of the water for you, didn't it?

[12 Adams]

Yeah. So we get back to the castle, where we know there's gonna be a banishment. Dylan finally starting to believe that Danielle could be a traitor. And Britney's running around the castle trying to convince everyone to vote for Gabby. Before, you know, like, when. When I had my one roundtable, there wasn't a lot of time to go, like, do a bunch of politicking with Everyone. Was there a lot of time before this roundtable between the mission and the roundtable for, like, Brittany to really go around and talk to everyone?

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. And she was going hard.

[12 Adams]

And was that not suspicious?

[Dolores Catania]

Not yet. It gets suspicious.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

In the end. Yeah.

[12 Adams]

So this is when Gabby kind of, like, is like, I'm going to. Against Danielle. Danielle argues that she doesn't have the stomach to be a traitor and thinks that Gabby's the real traitor.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. So I still didn't believe it was Gabby. And there was. There was a time where right before this, Dylan sits Danielle down and he said, I'm going to vote for you at the roundtable.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

He tells her, I know. And she starts freaking out, and I have to sit there and defuse her because I'm like, listen, it's just a game. Like. But he's shitting his pants because he thinks she's a real murderer in real life because she's a little crazy.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So he. He breaks it to her, and I give him a lot of credit for that, for standing up to her to do that.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And that wasn't an easy thing to do, especially knowing how hysterical she gets over things.

[12 Adams]

Totally.

[Dolores Catania]

And I think he just wanted to make sure that the hysteria. He cut. He cut it a little short at the roundtable with the hysteria.

[12 Adams]

The roundtable was good. You know, I don't know if I'd ever want to go against Danielle in any argument, but Gabby, like, holds her own. She's very, very articulate. She presents a lot of very good information to get Danielle out. You know, Danielle argues that she didn't have the stomach to be a traitor or whatever, and then you think that Ivar is a traitor and that you're going to vote for him. Why were you. Why were you like Bird Dog and Ivar?

[Dolores Catania]

Because at this point, I was still going back to when Dorinda got murdered. It was after her argument with Ivar.

[12 Adams]

Got it.

[Dolores Catania]

So I just would think that Ivar had had a few, you know, like, mishaps with some people. And then all of a sudden, I noticed they would be murdered.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, when he would say things nicely to them. Even Tom, he had a thing with Tom. Tom stole his shield. Tom stole his other thing. So these were just things I was using because that's how I felt at the time.

[12 Adams]

The vote is interesting. I think this is the first time it's happened where there was a draw between Ivar and Danielle. They each prevent that, present their case, but they can't vote in the next vote, either Danielle or Ivar will be excluded from. They're both gonna be excluded from the vote. And then Dylan, Gabby, both vote for Danielle again. And then something interesting happens. Brittany looks at you, and she says that you look Danielle and shake your head.

[Dolores Catania]

That's a lie.

[12 Adams]

Is it? So tell me. Tell us.

[Dolores Catania]

Brittany knows how things are edited and how cameras go.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So she was staring at me like. Because now she's decided to vote for Danielle.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

She's gonna turn on Danielle. But again, which Danielle deserves, because, you know, once somebody stabs you in the back, you don't go with them again. She did this to him. So. So she starts making. So Britney starts making all these eye signs at me to make it look like I'm pushing her to do this, to write this, but I had no idea what she was talking about because her and I spoke before that. And we were both going to vote for Ivar. Get my point? So me and Brittany were never on the page with Danielle. Brittany never had the conversation with me about it being Danielle.

[12 Adams]

Interesting.

[Dolores Catania]

So she kind of, like, set that up, like. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, but what are you talking about? And then in the end, she's like, well, Dolores made it look like she was going to vote for Danielle.

[12 Adams]

Mm.

[Dolores Catania]

That wasn't the case. I wouldn't call her a liar. It was just something that she set up to justify. What, the name that she wrote down.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. But the thing is, is that the name that she wrote down is the right name.

[Dolores Catania]

It's the right name because she knows for 100 that Danielle's a traitor. Because she's a traitor.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Of course, we don't actually get to see that moment happen because we're left on the cliffhanger. But, yeah, you know where it's heading, I think. And this was, I think, the one of the most fun episodes leading into the best episode, which you always want to be like, the last episode. Thoughts on. On the traitors thus far and thoughts on the faithfuls thus far so far.

[Dolores Catania]

I think, of course, everyone's doing a great job. I could have done better by voting for Danielle.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But me not voting for Danielle is the driving factor in the next time I vote, and I vote right the next time. So you'll see that. But I was so disgusted with myself that I didn't see through Danielle because of something she said to me, that no matter what, I was not going to vote by the next day. It wasn't about who I was friends with or who I thought was Innocent or. At that time, it was just very eye opening to me and it was. Was the deciding factor in my next vote.

[12 Adams]

Yeah. Oh, man. How heated was that roundtable, that last one?

[Dolores Catania]

It was so heated. What, the one with Danielle or the one after Danielle?

[12 Adams]

The one that we're talking about where Brittany ends up voting for her friend Danielle.

[Dolores Catania]

This is how heated it was when Britney starts to break down because she's writing her name, Danielle's name down. And Danielle almost feels like she knows Brittany's going to write her name. She's like, it's okay, Daniel. It's okay, Brittany. It's okay. You're going to be okay. You're going to be okay. And she tries to talk her off that ledge. And she knew by the. How emotional Britney was getting, the way she was going, yeah. And she was like, okay, okay. And then when she puts her name up, Danielle looks at her and goes, you did it to me again. It was almost like the scorpion in the toad story when the scorpion stabs the toad and the toad looks back and goes, you know, I mean, I'm gonna die. Why'd you do this to me? And the scorpion goes, it's just my way. Now we both die. So it was in that moment that Danielle's like, I fucked up and she got me again.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, it's.

[Dolores Catania]

That was huge.

[12 Adams]

It's ironic because Danielle made all these moves, pulled all these moves to get Brittany to get in that turret to ride, you know, to the end of the game with her. And it was Brittany, the person who ends up getting her out of the game.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, Brittany took that chance. She rolled the dice because she didn't trust Danielle getting her to the end after what she did to her. And she was right not to trust her.

[12 Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Danielle's the one that made the mistake. I think Danielle thought, I'm going to show, I'm going to get her back. Right. In the end. You never put somebody next to you that doesn't trust you. Yeah, that was just so dumb. That was her biggest, fatal mistake in the game. Huge. And then Brittany throws herself on the ground crying, I think. And Dylan goes up and like kind of picks her up and is like, you, you did the right thing. You did the right thing.

[12 Adams]

Yeah, well, we'll see if it was the right thing. Only one episode left of season three of Traitors. It's a very fun ending. It works out well for, for Dolores, I will say that. But only one more episode before we wrap this season and go to next season. What are you the most excited for when it comes to next season seeing.

[Dolores Catania]

The Housewives at the roundtable because I know these housewives and I already knew that there will be some drama at that roundtable. It's going to.

[12 Adams]

That's going to bleed in from your house.

[Dolores Catania]

The Bravo world. Yeah, the Bravo universe is going to marry into the Trader's universe at that roundtable with these. These personalities that are there.

[12 Adams]

Lovely. Well, I can't wait to watch with.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, you're gonna get a kick out of it. I know you're new to us and everything, but you're gonna get a show.

[12 Adams]

Okay. Yeah, I'm just gonna get a nice big bucket of popcorn and sit back and watch. Season four Traders, which will be starting on January 8, will be coming out with episode one for that the day afterwards. We'll be back again next week with the last episode of By Order of the Faithfuls for season three. If you're not following us on social media, please do at By Order of the Faithfuls on Instagram. Tell your friends and family and for all of you faithfuls and traders out there, we will see you very, very soon. Dolores, have a wonderful day.

[Dolores Catania]

You too. Bye bye. Thank you.

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