By Order of the Faithfuls: Dolores & Wells Have Entered the Castle (S3 E1 & 2)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: By Order of the Faithfuls: Dolores & Wells Have Entered the Castle (S3 E1 & 2)

Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Tamra Judge & Dolores Catania
Special Guest: Wells Adams

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Tamra Judge and Dolores Catania, joined by Wells Adams, break down the first two episodes of The Traitors US Season 3. The discussion ranges from behind-the-scenes secrets, first impressions, and big cast moves, to candid takes on gameplay, wardrobe choices, and navigating reality TV politics. Wells, having been unexpectedly banished early in the competition, provides fresh insights into the inner workings and blunders of the opening episodes. The tone is playful, self-deprecating, gossipy, and full of inside scoop—serving both devoted Traitors fans and Housewives enthusiasts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

First Impressions and Entering the Castle

• Opening Vibes (03:11):
  • Introductions by Wells, Tamra, and Dolores. Excitement about kicking off season three and discussing the first two episodes.
• Wells' Wardrobe Confusion (03:39):
  • Dolores jokes she didn't even recognize Wells on-screen due to his wardrobe.
  • "Maybe it was the way you were dressed." – Dolores (04:14)
  • Wells explains Solomon Sisters style him and laughs about getting knocked out in his least favorite outfit.
• Atmosphere Entering the Castle (05:22):
  • Dolores describes the eerie, thrilling line-up, masked druids, and Alan’s dramatic reveal.
  • "It gave me chills." – Dolores (05:29)

The Boston Rob Reveal & Early Game Twists

• Boston Rob’s Surprise Appearance (06:09):
  • Discussion on Boston Rob being unmasked and the player’s confusion/hype.
  • Audience didn't expect him; players speculated other celebs might show up.
• What Could Have Happened (07:14):
  • Tamra reveals behind-the-scenes info: Bob Harper planned to race to shake Rob’s hand and instantly boot someone else, but they suspect production would never allow a player to go home before entering the castle.
  • "Could you imagine showing up the first day and then going home, not even going to walk into the castle. You are gone. Goodbye." – Dolores (07:53)
  • Wells, putting on “producer hat,” confirms the show would never send someone home before gameplay starts.

Tom Sandoval’s Social Exile

• Social Dynamics (09:05):
  • Dolores observes Tom Sandoval was “avoided like the plague.”
  • Tamra agrees: "He was a pariah." (09:10)
• Sandoval Pleads to be a Faithful (09:12):
  • Tamra, in the car with Sandoval pre-show, recalls:
    • "I'm the most hated man in America...I told them, I will not be a traitor." – Tamra (09:22)
  • They recount Sandoval’s notoriety post-scandal and his requests not to be cast as a Traitor to avoid further hate.

Picking the Traitors & Game Tension

• Choosing the Traitors (10:22):
  • Alan picks Danielle, Carolyn, and Bob the Drag Queen.
  • Wells shares a behind-the-scenes moment where he could tell (by sound/touch) someone was chosen, hinting at clues missed on-screen.
  • Dolores says she noticed someone get touched, but Tamra didn’t.
• Tamra’s Clean Slate With Sandoval (11:39):
  • Tamra shares she wanted to start "fresh" despite Sandoval's past.
  • Takes effort to separate game from real-life drama but notes Sandoval was threatened by Chrishell.

Early Gameplay: The Dragon Boat Mission

• Mission Mayhem (16:46):
  • The first mission is a disastrous dragon boat race.
  • Wells laments being nominated as steer:
    • "I knew I was in a lot of trouble...They think I'm a leader. This is going to turn out badly." – Wells (16:46)
  • Dolores, Dorinda, Danielle, Bob the Drag Queen, and others sacrifice themselves during the mission – instantly becoming targets.
  • Dolores highlights the confusion:
    • "A very, very confusing mission...I was confused. I'm like, what the hell are we doing? And why would anybody want to sacrifice themselves?" (18:24)
  • Tamra confesses bitterness towards those who didn't volunteer to get off the boat (18:29).
• Dorinda’s Rage After the Mission (19:25):
  • Dorinda is furious upon returning to find the rest of the cast changed and fed while others suffered outdoors.
  • Dolores educates the group on British slang “bollocks.” (19:53)
  • Wells tries to explain to Dorinda that they followed production instructions, not intentionally ignoring her suffering.
  • Group speculates Dorinda might become a target/believed to be a Traitor due to her emotional reaction.

Early Banishments & Strategy Discussion

• Dorinda’s “Murder” Shocks Players (22:00):
  • Players are surprised Dorinda, whom everyone thought might be voted out, is murdered instead.
  • Wells calls it a “dumb move,” and speculates about strategy missteps:
    • "It didn't make any sense… why would you kill someone that was probably going to be banished tonight?" – Wells (23:04)
  • Dolores and Tamra agree: housewives could have been kept as shields; their early removal wasted an opportunity (23:17).

Shield Challenge & Boston Rob’s Gameplay

• Shield Challenge Drama (24:00):
  • Wells describes desperation to get a shield, sensing he was a target.
  • "I'm pretty sure they're going to try to murder me tonight, so I'm gonna get you down to get your shield." – Wells (24:57)
  • Dolores notices Rob, Wes, and Derek remain unfazed by flattery; they’re all “gamers.”
  • Tamra admits she was advised pre-show that Boston Rob would make a good ally, revealing her strategy in voting decisions.

The Roundtable, Arguments, and Wells’ Banishment

• Wells Caught Off-Guard (29:40):
  • Finds out too late his name is circulating as a target.
  • The main charge against him: being "cold" and “distant” (called out by Bob the Drag Queen, who’s a Traitor).
  • Wells reflects on reality TV habits:
    • "When cameras aren’t filming, I'm shutting down...Energy saving mode." (31:16)
  • Suspects his off-camera quiet put an unintended target on his back.
• Voting Mistakes & Reflections (32:04):
  • Wells laments his in-game blunders, especially calling out Sam (who returns the vote) and not pivoting his vote to save himself.
  • "I made two big mistakes...I should just vote for you to save my ass. But I didn’t do that." (32:56)
  • Believes Traitors (Bob the Drag Queen, Carolyn) orchestrated his banishment.
• The Slow Clap Sendoff (33:36):
  • Wells describes leaving the roundtable with a dramatic slow clap; the cast celebrates the first Traitor banishment of the season.
  • Tamra: "Oh, that was epic." (33:39)
  • Tony stands on the table in excitement; Dolores offers congrats.

Closing Thoughts & Looking Ahead

• Looking Forward (34:19):
  • Tamra and Dolores anticipate more drama and gameplay, now turning focus to Dolores’ run for the money.
  • Wells is relieved to be out, joking he can now “make fun of them all.”

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Wardrobe:
  • "Maybe it was the way you were dressed." – Dolores (04:14)
  • "Your wardrobe was sick when I saw it. It was beautiful." – Tamra (04:17)
• On Boston Rob:
  • "Could you imagine showing up the first day and then going home, not even going to walk into the castle. You are gone. Goodbye." – Dolores (07:53)
• On Tom Sandoval:
  • "He was a pariah." – Tamra (09:10)
  • "I'm the most hated man in America...I told them, I will not be a traitor." – Tamra (09:22)
• Gameplay Realization:
  • "A very, very confusing mission...I'm like, what the hell are we doing? And why would anybody want to sacrifice themselves?" – Dolores (18:24)
  • "I was so proud of myself. Then I...shit, I'm screwed." – Tamra (18:29)
• On Reality TV Energy:
  • "When cameras aren't filming, I'm shutting down...I'm not going to do anything funny or loud or whatever unless that camera is on and that red light's on." – Wells (31:16)
• Reflections on Being Voted Out:
  • "I made two big mistakes...I should just vote for you to save my ass. But I didn't do that." – Wells (32:56)
  • "They got you out." – Dolores (33:33)
  • "But I did do a slow clap at the end, which I thought, oh, that was epic." – Tamra (33:39)
• Looking Ahead:
  • "Now you have the whole rest of this season to make fun of them all." – Dolores (35:01)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:11 – 06:09: Entering the castle, Boston Rob reveal
• 09:05 – 10:11: Tom Sandoval as an outcast
• 16:46 – 21:38: Dragon boat mission confusion & aftereffects
• 22:02 – 23:51: Dorinda’s murder and players’ reactions
• 24:00 – 25:43: Shield mission and alliance speculation
• 29:40 – 33:43: Roundtable arguments, Wells' downfall, and dramatic exit
• 34:19 – 35:04: Closing thoughts and looking forward

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Final Takeaway

This episode balances lighthearted banter, Housewives flavor, and real strategic breakdowns of The Traitors US Season 3 opener. Listeners get juicy behind-the-scenes details, learn why reality personalities make the moves they do, and hear frank admissions of regret, confusion, and pride from both competitors and commentators. If you missed the premiere, this is the recap you need: who was targeted, who dropped the ball, and who is set up for the next dramatic round.

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Transcript

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[Wells Adams]

Welcome back all you traders and faithfuls to By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm alongside Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania.

[Wells Adams]

Ladies, we finally made it to season three, episode one and two.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm so excited for this. Get to watch you guys.

[Wells Adams]

Well, you don't have to. You don't get to watch me for very long. It's going to be a. It's gonna be a quick one. But.

[Dolores Catania]

But let me just tell you something.

[Wells Adams]

We'll burn bright.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm watching it. I don't know if maybe I'm tired or what, but I'm like, who's that? Who's that guy? It's you, Wells. I didn't even recognize you on there.

[Tamara Judge]

How come? I don't know why.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know why. I'm like, who is that? I go, well, he was there for a good time, for months now, but didn't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Tamra, you're so funny.

[Wells Adams]

Do you think that I look different than I did?

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know why I thought that.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think he looks any different at all.

[Wells Adams]

I mean, I'm not wearing like a pea coat.

[Dolores Catania]

You're not? Maybe it was the way you're dressed.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, I was.

[Tamara Judge]

Your wardrobe was sick when I saw it. It was beautiful.

[Dolores Catania]

Who picked out your wardrobe for you?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, the Solomon sisters do a lot of my, my.

[Tamara Judge]

I know of them. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

Stylist and everything.

[Wells Adams]

You think, look at this. You think this is someone that's figuring out what to wear to a castle?

[Tamara Judge]

And I hear you, but the attire fit you.

[Dolores Catania]

But the guys, like, I think the girls, it's a little bit easier. But guys, it's a little bit tough. I mean, it's like you want to sit around in a kilt, right?

[Wells Adams]

Well, I will say this.

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[Wells Adams]

What was the Most annoying about me getting sent home early is that the episode where I get sent home in two, which we'll talk about in a second, was my least favorite outfit. And you know how, like, you kind of sent them everything?

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You kind of, like, want to stretch it out. Yes.

[Wells Adams]

And I was like, I don't want to wear this one. I'm pretty sure they're gonna get rid of me, and I don't want to be going home in this.

[Dolores Catania]

You're like, I'm not being buried in this outfit.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Well, this was a very fun season. Obviously, Dolores did a little bit better than I did. Not to put the cart before the horse, but.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, just a little bit.

[Wells Adams]

Very, very fun start to the show. We know we all roll up, and they're all.

[Dolores Catania]

It gave me chills.

[Wells Adams]

Masks, druids sitting there in front of the castle. Alan welcomes all of us, and, you know, he kind of claps his hands, dismisses all the druids, and there's only one last left. Dolores, did you have a thought of who it was going to be in that moment before he took the mas?

[Tamara Judge]

Not a clue. I was too busy looking at the druid on the top of the castle. Like, here I am thinking, which one am I going to take down? Like, I was.

[Dolores Catania]

I didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

And then the one stand there was so spooky. It was so surreal, and I was still in awe of seeing the people. I didn't know they were who were coming. Like, Chanel, I. And I didn't know she was coming.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Well, so when Boston Rob was left, you guys obviously didn't know who he was, Did. Or that he was gonna be a player. Did you have any indication, like, is this part of a challenge? Is this another player? Like, what was going through your mind?

[Wells Adams]

Well, I was. I was standing next to Dylan, and I thought for sure Johnny Bananas was coming back.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Because he was asked back, and I'm. Yeah, no, he was supposed to come back. I'm friends with him, and so I thought that's who it was going to be. And if I. Because I've worked with him enough. If they had offered that same deal for Johnny Bananas, I think I probably would have gone and got him in the game just because I like, and I think it'd be fun tv. But when they, you know, unmasked Rob, I didn't know who he was. But then Dylan freaked out. But the thing that. That made me laugh the most about that moment was I was standing right behind Carolyn, who lost her Mind, it's so much. So where I was like, like, dude.

[Dolores Catania]

Was she wanted to shake his hand so bad.

[Wells Adams]

Oh, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And. And to get somebody out.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm friends with, very good friends with Bob Harper who said that if anybody was going to go up to him. Because what it was was of course, if you shook the hand of Allen, I mean, of Boston Rob, then you were to bring him in, but then you had to eliminate someone.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So what Bob Harper was gonna do was beat the person, whoever came off the line to Allen because he was the close standing closest to him, shake, shake Rob's hand and get out the person that was coming out. Do you get my point?

[Wells Adams]

Really? That was his plan.

[Tamara Judge]

So his plan was he would have beat the person to the punch and then threw them out, which would have been like.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I don't even know if they would allow that. But could you imagine showing up the first day and then going home, not even going to walk into the castle. You are gone. Goodbye.

[Wells Adams]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Getting there was not easy.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Okay. I producer hat on. That would never have happened.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't think so either.

[Wells Adams]

I, I recognize it. Right. So they had. It was always going to be the same amount of players playing. So what was going to happen is if someone did get Rob in the game and kick someone out, then that person would have been in that cage later that day or later that mission.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I think so too. Because I don't think you're gonna go all the. All the way that way. And then. Okay, bye.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Also, what an amazing storyline that would have been because it would have been like, you mother effer got me out on the first day. I'm coming after you. Whether you're.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what? Everybody would have been after that person. They'd probably be the first person voted out on the roundtable.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Because why not? Why not get rid of the villain right off the bat?

[Dolores Catania]

Was it me watching or did this really, truly happen? I felt like people were avoiding Tom Sandoval like the plague.

[Wells Adams]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

They were.

[Dolores Catania]

Because it kind of felt that way watching it.

[Tamara Judge]

He was a pariah.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, asking him when. When Sandoval is asking to be a faithful. It was almost like comical.

[Tamara Judge]

So I was in the car with him.

[Dolores Catania]

Faithful.

[Tamara Judge]

We'll do some behind the scenes. I was in the car with him and Chrishell and he's going on and on about after the scandal, I'm the most hated man in America. It was even in the. Not the New York Post, the New York Times wrote an article on how he's the most hated man in America. It was, I mean it got to the White House. Ariana was invited to the freaking White House.

[Dolores Catania]

I would have been in hiding.

[Tamara Judge]

Right? So he's going on and on in the car. I wouldn't have signed this contract. I told them, I will not be a traitor. Do not pick me to be a traitor. I'm not coming in as a trader. I don't need that after what I've been through. So he kept going on and on about that. So yeah, I mean he just wasn't. People were really not happy with him when he got there.

[Dolores Catania]

Now Tony, I didn't know who Tony was, but at first I thought he was Pitbull.

[Wells Adams]

Gasolina.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, he remind me of Pitbull a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Wells Adams]

I do. What I remember about Sandoval was, I remember like there was one time we sat down, start eating and they started filming us and I was like, it was just us too. And I'm like, oh no, I don't want to be, I don't want to be like tied to this guy like the, you know, public enemy number one. But I do think it was a smart move for him to be like, listen, I would never play this game if they made me a trader. And so it, it did, it did keep him safe, I think a lot longer than probably like a lot of people wanted him to be there. Regardless, Alan picks the traders. Danielle, Carolyn and Bob the drag queen are the three he picks. Now here's some behind the scenes stuff. And I've said this before, but I was sitting next Danielle and I heard someone get touched and I remember like looking over with my mask on, but they didn't show that. I'm wondering, Dolores, did you hear anyone get touched?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I did not.

[Dolores Catania]

I did.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, you said that.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. But once, once the, the master off Tom, overly dramatic with one eyebrow up.

[Tamara Judge]

He'S looking at Chris like this.

[Dolores Catania]

It's like give. He just gave me the ick when he did that. I'm like, dude, do last please.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, can I tell you behind the scenes? So I actually wanted to start the game with a clean slate. I said to Tom, I have to put out my head what I think of you and what you did and how you treated that girl. I'm going to put that out. I'm going to start clean here.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, he was so threatened by Chrishell because she was friends with.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Chrishell said it in the car because I was in the car with her and she Goes like this. She goes, I just want to let you know, I have DMed with her and. And I'm friendly with her. He's like, I have no problem with that.

[Wells Adams]

I. I am surprised that she didn't kind of like rally the troops, all just to get Tom out at some point. I thought we were pretty close, but.

[Tamara Judge]

We were thinking about it every day.

[Dolores Catania]

Lasted way longer than I ever expected.

[Wells Adams]

He also, who had frustrated me, especially not to get to the end of it. But when we got to the roundtable and all this pressure came on me, then he started talking about nonsense and I was like. I remember being like, shut up, D. No one thinks that Chris Shell is a traitor. Like, this is a personal vendetta and you're just wasting time away from me being able to argue my point. And you're also confusing people. And I just remember being so frustrated with that.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, he was clearly threatened by her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he was. He was. He. He picked on her constantly and she handled him well. They were actually comedic relief at that roundtable when it was so stressful. And of course. And then he came for me constantly, which I'll tell you about, moving forward. He just never let up on me. Never, never let up, this guy. And when I finally. It was funny because when I finally did convince everybody at the breakfast table to get rid of him, he didn't show up. So. Yeah, but he was being guarded by one of the traitors, of course. And we'll talk about her later.

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[Wells Adams]

Let's get into the first mission. It's a Dragon boat race that we all have sucked so hard. I knew this is so funny, Dolores. I knew I was in a lot of trouble because my plan going into the game was to like lay low and like just be under the radar. And the second you guys all nominated me to be the person who steers the boat, I was like, oh no, they think I'm a leader of some sort. And I turned to Sierra who's, you know, like she was supposed to be the one yelling out and I was supposed to be one steering. Turns out I did both. But I remember turning to her and I was like this isn't good that they've. They've nominated us for this. This is going to turn out badly for us. And it did. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

That was a really hard challenge.

[Wells Adams]

It was. And you're such a sweetie for. For getting off. So the people who got off and kind of, like, sacrificed themselves. Dolores, Dorinda, Danielle, Bob the drag queen.

[Tamara Judge]

Sam and Bob H. And Robin and Chanel.

[Wells Adams]

Oh, and Robin. And Chanel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Chanel got off because she didn't. I didn't know what was going on. Like, she didn't understand.

[Tamara Judge]

She got off with Robin. Robin was the first to say, I'll get off. Because we were all looking around saying, who's getting off?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then me and Dorinda, I got off the next one because I said, I'm not going to watch my friends get off. And then me not get off. So then Dorinda followed me, which in turn.

[Dolores Catania]

I love that aha moment where you go, oh, shit. We just made targets of ourselves.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It was a very, very confusing mission.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I was confused. I'm like, what the hell are we doing? And why would anybody want to sacrifice themselves?

[Tamara Judge]

I was actually surprised that I figured it out. I was so proud of myself. Then I. It was like, bittersweet. Like, I'm like, wow, I just figured something out. And then the other thing was, shit, I'm screwed. Yeah, shit, I'm screwed. But, you know, it's funny because inherently I would do that. I just. It's like, it wasn't for any other reason about gameplay. And I looked at Brittany, pissed me off. Cause she. I didn't feel like I was being a help on the boat. And Brittany wouldn't move, and she was in my way, and Carolyn wasn't moving, and there was other people who could have done it, and they were just sitting there. And I. In that moment, I gotta be honest with you, there was a few people that I carried. What I thought of them for not getting off the boat with me for the whole game.

[Wells Adams]

Really?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

I tell you who probably also carried that hatred for a long time was Dorinda. Because, you know, after this whole thing, she is so fired up that everyone has come home except for the people that were stranded on the. The pontoons. They've changed into nice warm clothes and they've started eating. And Durinda starving.

[Tamara Judge]

And it was so cold on that lock laurus.

[Dolores Catania]

You called it a load of bullocks.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, bollocks.

[Dolores Catania]

And I. I said, what the hell is that? What is that? I had to Google it to see it's a British slang phrase meaning nonsense or rubbish.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I'm like, that's from my trips to Ireland.

[Dolores Catania]

I figured that came from Paulie.

[Tamara Judge]

Paulie. It came from Paulie. And so Dorinda was starting to get pissed because New York housewives are socialites, very cultured. They come from a lot of money. They do not suffer. Well, I hate to tell you, Dorinda did the right thing, but she was getting pissed off after a while. And then we look across the lock, and you guys now have finished the mission. Didn't get all the treasure like you could have. So we sacrificed ourselves kind of in vain. And then we're watching you guys jump up and down, and we could hear you because the lock actually echoes. We can actually hear you screaming and jumping up and down. We're like, oh, really? So now we get back to the house. There's no food left.

[Dolores Catania]

How long were you out there?

[Tamara Judge]

I want to say good hour, but we had a pee. So then we had walkie talkies on there that was in the little box. And we would be like, all right, enough variety, enough. And they were like, yeah, we're coming. We're coming. Well, it took a while for them to come, and we were not the first to get picked up.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my gosh.

[Wells Adams]

Well, I just remember coming back to the house, and Dorinda is just laying in to everyone. And I. The only time I ever kind of, like, went against Dorinda, I was like, you have to understand, though, like, they told us to leave. Like, they told us to put our clothes on. They told us, like, this is. We didn't do this out of spite for you. And so I was like, I feel like you're getting too angry over something that, like, we. It. It wasn't vindictive. Like, that's. We won't. That's not what we were doing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but it's a housewife. You just have to let her vent. You. You learn that now. You know now wild.

[Wells Adams]

I now know. But at the time, I was like, this is crazy. But then at the time, everyone was like, she's doing so much. She got off. And now she's, you know, yelling and screaming.

[Dolores Catania]

It wasn't a good decision on her part.

[Wells Adams]

No. And so we all left that night thinking, well, I think she's probably a traitor. Like, there's got to be one housewife. She's probably.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, one of them had to go of them was going to get murdered.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So why not murder the one that was yelling and screaming at everybody?

[Tamara Judge]

No, it didn't have to be one of us.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, it didn't have to be.

[Tamara Judge]

It could have been anyone on those rafts. There was 10 people back.

[Dolores Catania]

It had to have been one person on that raft.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. It could have been Dolores. It could have been Dorinda. It could have been Bobby.

[Tamara Judge]

It could have been Bob, H. Anybody. Well, there was two traders that got off.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. So it couldn't have been Danielle. It couldn't have been Bob the drag queen. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

So, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I mean, that kind of gets us into the next thing of, like, I never understood. Like, I felt like a lot of people thought this way, that Dorindo was a traitor. And everyone was kind of just, like, saying, like, yeah, she's kind of doing too much. And so when we show up at breakfast the next morning and she's the one who has been murdered, in my mind, I was like, that doesn't make any sense. Like, why would you kill someone that was probably going to be banished tonight? At least that was the majority last night.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Go after someone else else and then let everyone.

[Dolores Catania]

I think, honestly, I think it's so soon in the game. Like, you don't know what to do, you know, that's why so many people get like, oh, you're gone because you blink too much. Or, you know, I mean, like.

[Tamara Judge]

But that wasn't the thing to do. Like, Dorinda, there could have been. They wasted the kills on the housewives. They really did Tamara, because we didn't know how to play the game. They could have used us for S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Dolores Catania]

She comes back, and we can't wait to see her. January 8th.

[Tamara Judge]

Good.

[Dolores Catania]

I can't wait.

[Wells Adams]

I make the big mistake of telling everyone that I think it was a dumb move. And this seems to Robin, and she thinks, well, it's smart. And I was like, well, okay, it's just my opinion. I don't. And, like, looking back, I was right. It didn't make any sense.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Wells Adams]

To me.

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[Wells Adams]

Yeah. So that. But it was at that moment. So it's funny. Like, what was going through my mind was, okay, I think Robin's a traitor because she got offended that I said it was a bad move, and now she's coming after me. I've put a target on my back like an idiot. I think I'm going to be murdered, not banished. So when we get to this mission where we got to run around and gather these coins and get Derek, Wes, and now Rob, who actually ends up being a traitor, get them down. In my mind, I was like, I Need to get someone down so I can get their shield because I'm pretty sure they're going to try to kill me tonight. And I even said it to Wes because no one was trying to bring Wes down. Everyone wanted Rob. And then they went to Derek. Wes was the only person who I was really familiar with his gameplay, him on the challenge and everything. So I yelled up to him, I was like, I'm pretty sure they're gonna try to murder me tonight, so I'm gonna get you down to get your shield. And we kind of agree that that was what was going to happen. He even says it, like later on in the episode, he's like, well, I was gonna give it to Wells. Now I don't know what to do.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I loved the. All three guys were saying in their confessionals, like, they feel like so many people were kissing their ass, you know, and he's like, ah, they could say whatever they want. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna murder them or I'm not gonna banish that. Like, they did not care.

[Tamara Judge]

They're gamers.

[Dolores Catania]

They're gamers. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Gamers are a different animal.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Like, watching it back, Dolores, I'm amazed that I didn't immediately. There wasn't really enough time for me to do it, but, like, if I'm a producer on this Show, I am 100% making Boston rob a trader. Like, I would. It's perfect. He comes in late and all this stuff's around. Like, I would have been like, dude, that guy's. He's got to be a traitor.

[Tamara Judge]

So obvious. We're so stupid. And he was very charming. That's the problem. He was super charming and very smart. He's a. Not only is he a gamer, he's a. He's a major poker player. Poker player? Like street smart. So I was told before I came on to that Boston Rob would be a good confidant and somebody to stand by. And he's Italian and he's from Boston and he'll. He'll be my person on the show if he comes. So that's why I didn't vote for him. But plus, anyway, I mean, who knew? Who knew? Sometimes you feel really stupid.

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Wells Adams]

So we get to the round table. Well, so I find out kind of beforehand that people are starting to say my name, which. The thing that I was most frustrated about was that I just didn't know that people thought I was a traitor until, like, the last second.

[Dolores Catania]

And it's all because you disagreed, right?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And it's so crazy.

[Wells Adams]

I know. We'll see. And that's. I will say this. I. I had a lot of time to think about the show afterwards. And, like, it's funny, because what really upset me because, you know, immediately we sit down to this roundtable, and Bob the Drag Queen immediately calls me out, which is fine. But what upset me, he was like, to me, he was like, you've been really cold and, like, you know, kind of distant or whatnot. And I remember being like, that's true at all. I've, like, tried to make a point to talk to everyone, especially with him, because my wife was friends with the co host of his podcast. So I, like, had all these connections. And when looking back, I. I would have been. I should have been like, he's the one that's being disingenuous to. To me, he's lying about something. He must be a traitor. But in the moment, I just thought it was. It was Robin. But the thing that bugged me the most was that it was coming after my character. That saying that, like, I was. Wasn't being warm and stuff. The one thing I will say that I did wrong, and I wish I could do it differently, but I can't. And I've made you guys do this, too. Like, I've made so much reality TV that when cameras aren't filming, I'm shutting down. I'm sitting down. I'm chilling out. I'm energy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Wells Adams]

I'm not going to do anything funny or loud or whatever unless that camera is on and that red light's on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Because it's exhausting being on all the time.

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[Wells Adams]

And so that was one thing that I think a lot of people caught up, caught on. I remember, like, we were sitting there in between challenges, and they're like, well, is you okay? You haven't said anything. I'm like, yeah, I'm just waiting for us to start filming again. I'm not gonna waste, like, a funny joke when.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, right, right. Or even talking, you know, they don't want you to talk about the game. And they have usually have, like, a producer standing over each group of people just to make sure they don't. It's like it's kind of like the last thing you want to talk about at that point.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. But I do think that that put a target on my back that they. Oh, he can be two faced. Like, he's really only doing this for the camera. But really, I' save energy.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Their mistake.

[Wells Adams]

I know. So when we go, when you go through the, the voting. I was thinking about it today, by the way. I will, I will say serious, like ptsd watching this back. I, I hated watching it because I can see that man sitting there being. I be like, dude, chill out. Like, it doesn't really matter, but I feel so bad. Well. And like, and I'm sitting there thinking, like, is if I never go back on this show again, like, there's no way ever. You couldn't pay me enough money. No, don't say that. But, but when I, when I was looking, when I was looking back on it, you know, like, I made a compelling enough argument against Robin where we were tied going into it. So. But I made two big mistakes. One, when they were like, so who was upset that you said it was a stupid move? I said Robin and Sam. And the second, I said Sam. I realized that was dumb because then I did just pointed him out, which means he was going to vote for me.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

But I should have realized that the numbers were going towards Ivor the entire time and I should have just been like, okay, Robin, I'm annoyed that you're calling me out. You know, Bob the drag Queen, I'm annoyed that you're calling me out, but I'm pretty sure the numbers are going to go to Ivor. I should just vote for you to save my ass. But I didn't do that. But it was funny the way that, like, I do think that the traders wanted to get rid of me. 1 Bob the Drag Queen was one who started it and he was a traitor. And then the person who ends it and votes for me last is Carolyn, who is a traitor. So I have a feeling that they were like, if we have a chance to get him out, we're going to try to get him out.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And they got you out.

[Wells Adams]

They got me real good. But I did do a slow clap.

[Tamara Judge]

At the end, which I thought, oh, that was epic.

[Wells Adams]

I remember doing it. It just and looking out and everyone was like, yes, we. Because we kept saying we want to be the first season to get out of trigger first banishment. And I started doing that. I remember Tony, like stood up, like on the table, was like, oh, my God.

[Dolores Catania]

And then I was like, Congratulations.

[Tamara Judge]

You got us all. You got us together. That was good. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Anyways, that's the end of that.

[Tamara Judge]

That was the end of that and I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait to see the new season because a lot going on.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Well, I'm just glad that I'm off the show now. And now we can just focus on Dolores, her gameplay and her taking home all of that money.

[Tamara Judge]

Looking forward to it.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. All right, guys, thanks so much for listening to By Order of the Faithfuls. If you're not following us on social media, please do rate and subscribe. Tell your friends. And yeah, we're all gearing up for season four of Traders US, which is coming out on January 8th. So make sure you circle your calendars for that and you are going to be up to date for this show when we get to that point. Ladies, it's always a pleasure hanging out with you and I'm just really sorry that I got banished so quickly.

[Tamara Judge]

Me too.

[Dolores Catania]

You were, but now you have the whole rest of this season to make fun of them all.

[Wells Adams]

Exactly.

[Dolores Catania]

Put them in their spot.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Wells Adams]

All right, see you guys.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, bye.

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Someone will be eliminated.

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