By Order of the Faithfuls: Evil Can’t Stay With Evil (Traitors Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod — “By Order of the Faithfuls: Evil Can’t Stay With Evil (Traitors Recap)”

Date: January 31, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi and Tamra provide an in-depth, personality-driven recap of the latest explosive episode of The Traitors—focusing on the season’s much-hyped “murder in plain sight” Black Banquet. With a particular emphasis on strategy, costume aesthetics, emotional dynamics, and shifting alliances, they break down what made this installment “the most iconic episode in Traitors history.” The hosts dissect the performances of major personalities like Lisa Rinna, Rob, Candace, and Colton Underwood, and offer plenty of their trademark behind-the-scenes insight and sharp-witted commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Black Banquet Couture and Theatrics

[02:24 – 03:43]

• Tamra and Teddi gush over the standout Black Banquet costumes, specifically Lisa Rinna’s “runway couture” and Rob’s on-brand ensemble.
• Discussion about how the show’s wardrobe team works versus previous seasons.
• Comment on Colton Underwood’s elaborate “crystal headpiece”:
  "It was too much with the pearl. Like, it was just too much. But listen, it's a costume... it's a vibe." (Co-host, 03:27)

2. Lisa Rinna’s RHOBH Aftermath & Social Media

[03:38 – 05:11]

• Teddi shares a Page Six article about Lisa Rinna reflecting on leaving Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, her difficult exit, and her gratitude/grief.
• The Lisa/Colton “stalker” controversy is discussed, with Teddi highlighting how Lisa had to clarify her social media comments:
  “She clarified it on Instagram saying, it's a game, not personal. I just said it in the spirit of the game.” (Host, 04:49)

3. The “Murder in Plain Sight” — Twists, Drama, and Paranoia

[05:43 – 08:42]

• The murder in plain sight challenge is lauded for its genius execution and drama.
• Lisa Rinna’s “air kiss” is heavily scrutinized, both as a gameplay move and as a symbol (kiss of death).
• Commentary on the show’s evolution and comparison to previous “murder in plain sight” formats:
  • “As much as I was enjoying it, I was still saying, oh, I still think mine was better until last night… Ours was… three people had to be in the coffin.” (Co-host, 08:08)
• Triumph of cinematic elements and how everyone’s true colors come out under pressure.

4. Antidote Twist and Implosions at the Table

[08:42 – 11:02]

• The antidote twist adds chaos:
  • Two can “save themselves” from being murdered, causing open scrambling.
  • Natalie, Kristen, and Tara act most aggressively, drawing the hosts’ criticism: “The people that did try for it were so aggressive towards it, which kind of turned me off... for the rest of the season, I'm going to look at them different.” (Co-host, 09:55)

5. Analyzing Reactions — Kiss of Death & Jam Jam’s Downfall

[11:02 – 12:09]

• Focus on Jam Jam’s correct—but poorly-communicated—suspicions about Lisa and the “kiss of death.”
• Discussion of how panic and paranoia can take hold, with Dorinda and Lisa both under the microscope.

6. Roundtable & Dynamics After Lisa’s Move

[12:16 – 13:59]

• Discussion moves to Candace defending Lisa, and Rob’s strategic, “faithful” gameplay.
  • “Rob is in the shithouse... but he has the majority vote on his side and candid. It doesn't matter. Candace could be anything she wants to him because quite frankly, he has been the traitor that's been staying out of all the shit. He's even put up one of the trader's names Lisa." (Co-host, 12:54)

7. Faithfuls vs Traiters — Shifting Alliances

[14:15 – 16:09]

• Rob’s tactical gameplay—playing solo, building trust, keeping suspicions at bay.
• Teddi and Tamra reflect on their own in-game mistakes and how traitors tend to be less likely to “slip up” in speech.
  • “Traders watch everything they say... they're not slipping.” (Co-host, 20:15)

8. The Mission: Winning the Dagger

[21:21 – 23:33]

• New twist: six players compete for gold to win a dagger, which grants double voting power.
• Rob wins the dagger by outsmarting Natalie during questioning.
• The hosts praise Rob’s use of psychological strategy (“watching body language”) and how he’s underestimated due to his looks.
  • "He just comes off because of the way he looks. People think... underestimating him, which is the best defense as a traitor." (Co-host, 22:29)

9. The Roundtable and Lisa’s Banishing

[24:03 – 25:12]

• Lisa tries to redirect suspicion onto Natalie, but Jam Jam and Maura double down on their suspicion of her.
• Lisa is banished—hosts note that “it was about time.”

10. Candace’s Misstep and The Cost of Loyalty

[25:12 – 27:16]

• Hosts debate whether Candace’s loyalty to Lisa (voting for Rob) will cost her the game:
  • "You think Rob gives a shit that he got one vote from her? ...Candace should have voted for Lisa." (Host, 27:02)
• Emotional moments: Lisa cries before leaving; reflections on trust and betrayal in the traitor/faithful dynamic.

11. Endgame Speculation: Recruitments, Double Standards & Paranoia

[35:43 – 39:37]

• Rob’s reaction to Candace’s vote—double standards and strategy dissected.
• What happens if Candace gets banished? Will it affect Rob?
• Recruitment speculation: would Colton Underwood make a good traitor?
• The “turret full of housewives” joke and growing strategic hostilities among traitors.
• Reflection on the inevitability of traitors turning on each other:
  “Evil can’t stay with evil... You’ll see them turn on each other. Which is exactly what happened.” (Co-host’s mom, 29:26)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Banquet’s Visuals:
  “Theatrical. Yes. Yes.” (Co-host, 03:36)
  “Alan, his outfit was insanity. All the pearls on his face... visually, it was just so amazing.” (Host, 07:41)

• On gameplay and personalities:
  “His own people can't murder him. And the people he has on his side would have the power to banish him, and they're not. So he's playing the game, right?” (Co-host, 36:17)

• On betrayal and emotional fallout:
  “Evil can’t stay with evil... you’ll see them turn on each other. Which is exactly what happened.” (Co-host quoting her mom, 29:26)

• On Candace’s risky vote:
  “All she did was... put a target on her back. You think Rob gives a shit that he got one vote from her?” (Host, 27:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:24 – 03:43 : Black Banquet costumes & vibes
• 03:38 – 05:11 : Lisa Rinna’s RHOBH exit and controversy
• 05:43 – 08:42 : Murder in Plain Sight; Banquet chaos
• 11:02 – 12:09 : Kiss of Death, Jam Jam’s suspicions
• 12:16 – 13:59 : Alliance shifts: Rob, Candace, Lisa
• 20:15 – 20:27 : "Traders watch everything they say..." (on speech slip-ups)
• 21:21 – 23:33 : Dagger challenge; Rob’s tactics
• 24:03 – 25:12 : Lisa’s last stand and banishment
• 25:12 – 27:16 : Candace’s voting decision & fallout
• 35:43 – 36:40 : Double standards, traitor strategy
• 38:57 – 39:37 : Banquet recap; Endgame personalities under pressure

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Final Thoughts

The hosts agree that this was a standout, nearly unbeatable episode—not just for its production value and twisty gameplay, but for the way it revealed “everybody’s true colors” under escalating pressure. Rob is hailed as the player to watch, successfully flying under the radar, while Lisa’s downfall marks a pivotal turn. The hosts leave listeners eager for more, speculating about possible recruitments, betrayals, and the inevitable implosion among traitors. The episode is a must-listen for fans of The Traitors and anyone who loves watching strategy, drama, and human nature collide on reality TV.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to By Order of the Faithfuls. It's just me and Dolores today. Wells is out doing whatever he's doing, and I'm bummed because this was a really good episode and I feel like he would have had a lot to say about it.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Totally.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Let's. Let's talk a little bit about the

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

black banquet looks, the cinematics. They were amazing.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, everybody was dressed to their personality, that's for sure. I mean, everybody was dressed great. There was. Do you think they dressed them.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So for all of you who don't know, there is a costume maker in. In the castle who.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We didn't have a costume maker. We had, like a wardrobe, like a wardrobe slash costume room upstairs that we could pick from or pull from. But these were, like, made special.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Amazing. They were all amazing. I think Lisa Rinna's was Runway couture, I have to say, because she is that.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She is that everyone's. I. I really like Rob's. It was so, so fitting for him.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I loved it. The print was amazing. Yeah, I'd love to see him dressed, fully dressed for once.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm fine with him not dressed. What about. What did you think about Colton's crystal headpiece?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was too much with the pearl. Like, it was just too much. But listen, it's a costume joke. It's not a joke. It's like, it's a vibe.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Theatrical.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It's theatrical. Yes. Yes.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. So I just want to share this. Page Six came out with an article about Lisa Rana saying she burst into tears reflecting how difficult it was leaving the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That it really did affect her. She was on the show for eight years. Well, she's kind of, you know, claimed like she quit the show, she'll never go back. Seems a little bit felt, maybe. Feels a little burned by the show, maybe. I'm not sure that's kind of the energy she's given off, but. So I thought, like, she was like, good riddance. But she basically said that she was on for eight years, the longest job in her 35 year career. She expressed gratitude for the experience and the time she spent on the franchise. It also mentions that Rena addressed a controversy involving fellow Trader contestant Colton Underwood. So when she called him a stalker on social media, he got death threats.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, yeah. She had to come on and say, you know, we're good. Yeah, you don't do this.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And she clarified it on Instagram saying, it's a game, not personal. I just said it in the spirit of the game. I think he's already gets a lot of for that on social media from.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I wouldn't have to bring it and resurface it all.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I wouldn't have brought that. I. I think I would have used a different choice of words. But not everybody thinks before they speak.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I know.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's not one that's known to do that either.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I got. I just talked to Heather Dubrow and she goes, I saw you said, you're gonna blow things up. I go, I was Joking. I go. I said it was actually my unbothered era that I'm going into for 2026. That's my word. Remember you told me to, like, think of a word for 2026. I'm. Mine is very unbothered. I'm just unbothered.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, that's so good. I haven't come up with one yet.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And I was joking when I said I'm gonna blow up. You know, Jeff gets me going.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He does. He gets everyone going.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He really does. But anyway, so Lisa must complete. Starts off where Lisa must complete her murder in plain sight. And it was pretty genius how she did it, didn't you think?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You know, before I watched it, I thought of the same idea, because you did. I did 100,000% before she did it. I'm like. I would say, like, oh, my God, Ouch. Can you help me? And. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And it wasn't even brought up later on. Like, it was nev. It was more about the air kiss than anything.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right, Right. Because they don't know. They just don't know.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And she kind of was, like, a little dramatic about it. She's like, oh, oh. Like, you know what I mean? I think I would have been like, oh, crap. Just poked me.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think actually at the table, Dorinda got more shit than Lisa.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Until.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Until jam. Jam started going off. But before that, they were really looking at Dorinda.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So Alan had said many, many, many interviews leading up to it that this was the most iconic episode in Trader history. Did it live up to the hype?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It did.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was good.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm gonna say it did. I mean, just visually, yes, agreed. The outfits, the idea of it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I would have liked to see more of it.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I love the brooch. The brooch was beautiful. It should be in a museum now. The Traders Museum. You know, people are gonna use that for different things, but I think that this was amazing. And the fact that there was an antidote and to have everybody implode on each other at the table, you really got to see people's character at this point. Now it's. Now everybody. It's how, like human nature, when people get closer to wanting something, how nasty, they're gonna get over it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. Well, Alan, his outfit was insanity. All the pearls on his face, the pearls on his outfits, and he comes walking out with two mask guards. Like, it was pretty creepy. But visually, it was just so amazing.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was just. I'm gonna watch it again.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, me too. I made Eddie watch it with me because he hasn't watched any of this season. And then he goes, is this the season finale? I go, no, Eddie, this is episode seven.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm kind of glad because I'm really enjoying this season. And as much as I was enjoying it, I was still saying, oh, I still think mine was better until last night because our murder in plain sight was. I didn't like it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

What was it? Remind me.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Three people had to be in the coffin.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We got called out. There was a bunch of coffins, and there was, like, smoke and all these torches outside lit. And then it was like, okay, three of you get in the coffin. But, like, compared to this.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Compared to this, amazing. Yeah. But the thing is, there's a twist. They can be saved. So two players will have the chance to drink the antidote, which can prevent them from being murdered. And this is where we see everybody lose their shit. Right?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

This is Natalie and Tara going at it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Why did Natalie remind me, why did she think that she. Possibly because someone served her food. Okay.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And everybody was eating the same food, so it didn't matter. Right.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And somebody came out and said, guys, it's not the food. That would be too obvious. It's been done before. I think ours was like, drink out of a chalice. Remember that on season.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That was good. That wasn't easy. Yeah, that was good.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She a rusty old child. Here, have a drink.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You really. You must be thirsty.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I love how Johnny grabbed the antidote for Kristen. Here, you need this.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I love that. That's a nice friend. Yeah. Then they're like, it's over.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She just did Yam.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Is this a yum Yum or jam Jam.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

They call him jam Jam. It's spelled yam Yam. So he's going to call me. Lisa kissed me.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But he did. He didn't even really try for the antidote, did he?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, not really. No. He just. Because the people that did try for it were so aggressive towards it, which kind of turned me off to them. For the rest of the season, I'm going to look at them different. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Natalie and Kristen, Is that what you're talking about?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

100%. Natalie, Kristen, and Tara.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So Tara was the one that was blaming Dorinda. And Dorinda's like, oh, you can see the panic on her face. Like, oh, shit. Now I'm going to get blamed and people are going to come for me. I'm skating under everybody's radar for the past six episodes. Leave me alone.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But I kept saying jam. Jam was scared. He kept saying, lisa, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. Immediately, immediately. When they were told that something happened at this dinner, he leaned over and he said, lisa kissed me. So maybe he was wrong about it, but he was also right.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He was right. He was. Yes, he was right and he was

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

wrong at the same time.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Are you shocked that he didn't say anything about the brooch?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, no, I'm not shocked.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I wonder if he thought about it later.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I wonder if he went probably on the way home when you go back to your room and start packing.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right. So

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think it was more the kiss because in our minds, if you've ever watched the Godfather, the kiss is always the kiss of death.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Kiss of death. Right.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You know, you kiss someone before you murder them.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I feel like that was really in his.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Or you put a horse head in their bed.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right, right. That'll be the next murder in plain sight.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

As he was going, he said, it's Lisa. It's Lisa. It's Lisa.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He was worked up and they've really grabbed him and took him off the sea. It was amazing.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, we saw a flashback or I looked at the kiss and it was an air kiss. It didn't really matter one way or the other. And the next morning, the three traders walk into the breakfast first. So that was very.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Lisa's right now knowing her time is coming close, I think, because he was screaming her name was. He was being carried out. There's no way if I was at that table that I wouldn't have been having an eye on Lisa thinking it. And now Candace, you know, moving forward,

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

eyes are on her now.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Eyes are on her as well. So they. They go pretty heavy.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I was concerned when Candace started sticking up for Lisa because every time Lisa's name's brought up for different reasons, she would always stick up for her. And I'm like, I don't think that's good. I don't think you should be doing that right now.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Rob is in the shithouse. Rob is in the doghouse.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Do you think he's playing a good game, though?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, we'll find out.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's got all the faithfuls on his

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

side now, so he's playing a great game.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, that's playing a great game. And, you know, a risky game. He's playing a risky game because now he's got to go up against Candace, and Candace, she doesn't play.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But he has the. He has the majority vote on his side and candid. It doesn't matter. Candace could be anything she wants to him because quite frankly, he has been the traitor. That's been staying out of all the shit. He's even put up one of the traders names Lisa.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And so right now, even nobody's thinking it's him.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, they're convinced. They're convinced he's a faithful now.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. And they have. Now you have Candace, who's now going to go after him. But right now, neither one of them at this breakfast table like him and he knows it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. But Lisa tells Rob and Candace that she needs their help today. I mean, Rob is really doing a one man show with being a traitor.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I love how Candace is a ride or die. She's like, listen, before Lisa even got there, she's like, Lisa pulled this whole thing off on her own. We got to help her out now because she's under the glass or when she was there, whatever. But Candace is trying to say to Rob, he's like, well, he said something. And she's like, well, you're gonna have to do a little more than not nothing today.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Like, you're gonna have to show up. You're gonna have to, you have to

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

pull your weight, buddy.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But he's pulling his weight on his own end. He's pulling his own weight is what he's pulling.

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[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

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[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was unbelievable.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're gonna have a terrible time with men.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Amanda Knox]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

[Amanda Knox]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Amanda Knox]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It'll cause so much harm at every

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

single level of the British establishment of this is wrong.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground and he

[Nancy Glass]

identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm like, lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So at breakfast, the theories that they have right now, Stephen because of the tarot cards. So everyone tries to figure out who the traitor is. And Steven because of the tarot cards. Lisa because of the kiss to Yam yam. Natalie being so aggressive with the antidote. So that's what they have to go off.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So aggressive.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's all they have to go off on right now. Tara and Natalie both apologize for jumping for the antidote so fast, but it's too late.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You did it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You showed your true colors.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That would be a smart thing for a trader to. Well, not a smart thing, but I could. I think it would be smart of a traitor to want the antidote because then it ruins their murder. And that was a hard thing to do. So it would make a lot of sense for two traitors to get up. Which two traitors should have gotten up because one of them would have been able to get it. Candace and Rob should have been on that. That's where their mistake was.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

When you played the game, did you ever misspeak or anybody on your cast misspeak? We had a couple of people misspeak. You know, they misspoke.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Portia misspoke in the beginning.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Portia dead. It happens, I think, a lot in. When. Who was it? Natalie said we murdered one before correcting herself to say we banished one. I think when you say we, it's like we as a whole, as the game. Like, we murdered that person last night.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Like, here's what I think. I would think less of somebody who slipped, because traders don't slip. Traders are more careful for their words.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's a good point.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I wouldn't be chasing somebody who had. I would actually check them out of.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And you're right, because everyone that has

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

slipped has not been a trader.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

They've been faithful.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. Traders watch everything they say, and everything they say is. Is thought about and calculating. So they're not slipping.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, Tara and Lisa witnessed this, and so Lisa thinks that this is what she has to get her. You know, get the heat off of her. And she's gonna.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Her trump card.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, this is her trump card. And she's now gonna go after. You know, she's gonna bring it up about Natalie's conversation. But as we know, it wasn't enough. At first I thought, oh, boy. Okay. At least it's gonna be safe. And I never thought.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought she was done. And then I think she would have been done anyway.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Whether or not.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, I knew that her time was up. I knew it was coming to an end, which made me really sad. But I thought maybe she could possibly pivot out of this and. And blame Natalie, but it just wasn't enough.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, especially since her fellow traitor has the majority of votes on his side and he's already voted for her.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right. What did you think about this mission?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, I think all the missions are. I love all the missions, to tell you the truth. Would you think that was good?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So six Players to retrieve the most gold will have the chance to win a dagger, which will grant them two votes. At the round table. Rob wins the dagger by stealing Natalie's tablet. Tablet. He was able to tell she was lying, and I think I was even able to tell she was lying. She kind of looked to the side and licked her lips and got a little nervous. Nervous when she answered him.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Ah, when you look to the side, it's always a day.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's what they say. But he was very. He was very good at, like. Let me ask you some simple questions to see how you react. And then I'm gonna ask you the question to see how you react.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, very cool.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So to tell, like, does your body language. He's smart. He's a smart guy.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He said something in this episode where I said, he is smart.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was. He used a certain word for something.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I feel like this is a guy who's read a lot in his life. He has a good vocabulary and he's.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He just comes off because of the way he looks. He can get away with think. People think underestimating him, which is the best defense as a traitor that could ever be. So he's got that innocent Q American boy look. And he's not. But he's also. He's smarter than he looks. Is that what they say? Don't judge a book by his cover. I don't know why good looking people get a stigma that they're not smart. I think because they're good looking.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Because most aren't.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, because I like. You look at somebody and you say, wow, you're so good looking. I hope you're stupid. Like, you want something. You want something to be wrong with them. Like when I see like a really beautiful girl and then she's like, yeah, I'm getting my PhD. I'm like, oh, oh, God. I was hoping for something. I was hoping.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You're a dummy. But Rob is smart. He is building trust with the faithfuls. He's, you know, telling the six of them should pack together, keep this a secret, that he has the dagger. And it's just another just smart way to build trust with the faithfuls. Yeah. So he's kind of playing his own game.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He is playing this game like he's the only trader. The mistake is when you're a trader is playing, I guess, as the team. You could start off playing as a team, but you can when it gets towards the end and you know you're going to have to get these traders out to Win then. Then I think that your biggest enemies are your friends. Are the other traders more than the faithfuls?

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Mm.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So then later at the roundtable, Lisa brings up that Natalie slipped and said, we murdered one. Maura, who doesn't really say anything, says, yeah, says she saw Lisa kiss Jam Jam. But she didn't in there. But it was an air kiss. They show it. It's an air kiss. She air kissed a few people.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She jumps on any bandwagon.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She just goes with whoever says what. I'm not quite sure she knows why she's there. And that's another one. That's just so pretty.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She looked amazing in this photo shoot. And she's beautiful.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's stunning. Now, Rob also goes after Lisa as well. Same Jam Jam would not throw her name out for no reason.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. So Jam Jam got her back. That's what I want to say. He made sure when he left, he was very convincing. Maura backed it up, and that was it. That's all I would have needed.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yep. And unfortunately, it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough for Lisa, and she was. She was banished.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

About time. They got another traitor. About time.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But okay, so Candace votes for Rob. Do you think this vote is going to cost Candace the game?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Possibly. They're on to her. They're onto her. And because she tried to deviate every vote that went towards Lisa, who is a traitor, she's next in line.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Colton wasn't as vocal this episode.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He didn't have to be.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Didn't have to be sat back and just smiled.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The damage was done.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And he's. He's another one smart. Another smart one.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's very smart.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's figured out Candace as well. So, you know, the very beginning, we thought, oh, the traders could win this. Well, there's one trader that could win it, and I think it's. It is.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Rob, you know what I want to tell you? I want to say that if I was a traitor and somebody was really coming hard for me the way Colton was coming for me, I'd get rid of him anyway because he's. Because by the time you murder or whatever, by the time you try to turn things around on that person, it's already too late.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Too late.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

And then.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Then all you have to say as a traitor is like, well, of course he was murdered. It would makes me look like I'm a traitor, and it's so obvious.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Exactly. So you can say that, and you can use that defense, so why not? See, I'm getting to learn this game by talking about it.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think you got to play the game. You won, sweetie.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know, true. But I'm saying that, like, if I was a traitor and somebody like Colton was coming for me, he can go, and I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's me getting rid of the person coming for me in plain sight. No, sorry, wrong person.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, Candace knew she could not save Lisa and she wanted to send a clear message to Rob by voting for him. Like, two traitors can play this game, bitch.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, she sent a clear message to put a target on her back. That's all she did. You think Rob gives a shit that he got one vote from her?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think it was a very stupid. Candace should have voted for Lisa.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Here's the thing. When you can't save your friend at the roundtable, both of them, right? And I. That's not an easy thing for me to do or not.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It wouldn't be easy to do or say. But at the end of the day,

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

this is a game.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So the people that are going after Rob like you went after the housewife, she was a traitor. He's playing a game and he knows what he's doing. I know now, Lisa, she started crying before she even got up there to do her speech.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It can't be easy to say that like. Well, nobody really, by this point, nobody ever even believed. Like, it's not like she had these amazing close knit ties to anyone besides Candace, who's a traitor too. It's not like some, some nice player faithfuls looking up to her and following her around like a puppy dog because they trust her. You know what I mean? That's a, that must be hard for a traitor when they have to turn around and say, you know, I'm sorry I hurt you. I know you trusted me. But I don't see anybody following her around like that.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I wonder how she's gonna react to Rob in the turret, how they're gonna move forward. She's got suspicion on her now and she knows that he can blow that up.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He is hold. Out of nowhere, the silent one is holding all the cards.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know. What does she do next? Does she try to sit down with him and say, listen, they play traitor

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

and he played faithful.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. And that's what makes he gets banished one day. And everybody is so like thinking he's the most faithful of the faithfuls. Everyone's gonna be like, in awe.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Like, oh yeah, like it's gonna be the biggest surprise.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Biggest surprise.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Because there's no way now that Candace voted for him. But traitors turn on each other towards the end. But you have to see an emotional exchange between the two of them. Like, on mine, like I always say, when my. Before I left and I asked my mother about playing the game, and I explained it to her. She doesn't have peacock. And I. And I said, how will I know who's who? And she goes, evil. Can't stay with evil now in my game.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Please write a book with all your moms.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's like, it'll be easy for you. You'll see them turn on each other. Which is exactly what happened. My mother left school at, like, 15 years old. She's never even graduated.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's so smart.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's so smart. And that is what happened. So now you're starting to see that here, Lisa. I mean, Candace votes for him for no reason at all. That's a red flag. But it's a red flag for him, too.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

By the way, I forgot to ask you a little off topic. I had total fomo. You were with Rodriguez. I call him Rod.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, my God. I. Him and his husband are so damn freaking.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I talked to them at BravoCon, and I just. I love him so much.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I didn't want them to leave. Like, when I had to leave them, I missed them. I enjoyed him so very much. He's coming on. He wants to come on.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know. I told him. I go, you need to come on the podcast. You need to come on the pod.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's ready.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Okay. Okay, well, then we'll. We'll get him on for sure.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He is now my favorite part of that show.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's always been my favorite.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I've always liked him, too. I. And I was so excited to sit next to him and get to know him. And, I mean, they're just a lovely couple. They adopt.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't know him on. I don't know him on, like, a personal level. Like, I've talked about Bravo Khan and things like that, chatted with him on dms. But I. I don't know. You know, I mean, it's probably. It would be nice to, like.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I was gonna ask him about his kitchen, but I was in. I was in asking him so many other questions that I'll let him answer if we ask him, but they. Him and his husband adopt senior dogs from shelters. They know more.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Big heart. It's a big.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Say no more. I will die for you.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, he was talking about what a good person you are to me.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, you got to talk to him. After I met him. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Riegel, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government is onto him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life. And that's the unicorn.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

No one had ever seen anything like that.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was unbelievable.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amanda Knox]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK evoking horror and disbelief.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for for tiny babies

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

is now the most prolific child killer

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

in modern British history.

[Amanda Knox]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Amanda Knox]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It'll cause so much harm at every

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

single level of the British establishment of this is wrong.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The Irish traveler said when I was 16. You're gonna have a terrible time with men.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary, Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creating creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm like, lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So the traitors split up. Rob is pissed that Candace voted him. He did the same thing to Lisa, so how can he even. How could he be pissed about it?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought about. That's the world of double standard that we live in, isn't it?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. I mean, it's a. Yeah, it's a double standard for sure.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You think if Candace gets banished, people will be suspicious of him?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, I don't.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't either.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right now, he is. He is safe as can be.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Let me tell you something. There's two ways to win this game. It's strategy, and it's gaining the trust of everyone. And right now, all he had to do was gain the trust of all the faithfuls. His own people can't murder him. And the people he has on his side would have the power to banish him, and they're not. So he's playing the game, right? Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Do you think there's a world where they're going to recruit Colton as a trader?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Ooh, I didn't even think about recruitments. Who do you think Rob. Rob would pick? Who do you think Candace would pick?

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't know who Candace would pick. I'm not.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I wouldn't pick Colton. Maybe that could change it. Yeah, I think. I think Candace would. Candace is a true blue housewife. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I think so, too. What about Rob's comment as he's walking out the door? Is it a turret full of housewives? He said that?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Did Candace hear it? I don't know.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No. No. Oh, he said it to the other. Do you think it's like a turret full of housewives?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You dirty.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know. Already Trying to put suspicion on Candace.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, he's got he now. Now she just made an enemy. So she in trouble.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. I mean, they meet in the turret and they do. We're left on a cliffhanger. It's every traitor for themselves. Who will be the last traitor standing?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, let's see.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think that Rob's going to go in and try to convince everybody with

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Colton, get rid of her, and then

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

he's going to recruit Colton as a traitor.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Colton. I wouldn't. I wouldn't recruit Colton. I wouldn't. Because he's too much under the glass. There's. He could be used as a shield at the roundtable.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So who would. Let's say Candace goes. Who would he recruit as a trader?

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't know, but I don't think Colton would be the right move. He's just too. He's too wild. He's untrustworthy. I think he. It would get in his head if he got into the turret. He's not trustworthy. None of them are.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It's like being on Housewives. You can't trust any of them. Well, that's all we have for you guys today. It was an amazing episode. They hyped it up. It was great. And I can't watch it again. Yeah. At least at dinner party.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Pay attention to the little details.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Ah, next season's gonna be hard to beat. It is this actual episode is going to be hard to beat.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Next.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I'm just hooked. I mean, I've been telling everybody we went to dinner with a couple that have never watched it, and I'm like, no, you have to watch it. Just go straight to four. It is so good. I mean, they're all good, but I

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

think my favorite part of this episode, you know, was the. The dinner scene. But to see everybody start to break down their personalities under the pressure of I could be going right now. And it really, like I said, it really showed me the weak links.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Sure did. So everybody's true colors.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

All right, we'll see you guys next week for another episode of By Order of the Faithful.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Bye.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amanda Knox]

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[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Evidence has been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed.

[Amanda Knox]

What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe?

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think she might be innocent.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Hi, it's Jill Interestein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Krista Williams.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It can change you in the best way possible.

[Podcast Host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves.

[Podcast Co-host / Commentator (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I'm, like, delusionally proud of my chart.

[Jill Interestein / Jo Winterstein]

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. In 2018, the FBI took down a ring of spies working for China's Ministry of State Security, one of the most mysterious intelligence agencies in the world.

[Jermaine Hudson / Confessor in Burden of Guilt]

The Sixth Bureau podcast is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Special Agent Riegel / Special Agent Bradley Hall]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.