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By Order of the Faithfuls: Faithfuls Playing Like Traitors (S2 Finale Recap)
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Wells Adams
10 more presents to wrap.
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Wells Adams
All right, welcome back, all you traders and faithfuls to buy order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams. I'm alongside the beautiful Dolores Catania.
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Dolores Catania
Thank you, Wells. He's calling me beautiful because I was just complaining about my turkey neck. So, like, the gentleman, he is, he's, you know, trying to build me up today. But anyway, hello. This is an exciting episode for us, don't you think?
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Wells Adams
Last one final episode of season two. Programming note. Unfortunately banished last night was. Was Tamara. So she's not going to make the show today, but we. You're in good hands with these two faithfuls. We will for sure. We will sherpa you through this final episode of season two, which was such a good season and such a fun ending. I kind of forgot how it all went down and the Trishell and CT of it all. But reliving it was very fun.
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Dolores Catania
Well, yes, it was. It was fun. And this was the single most addicting episode to me because this is what got me. This is when I fell in love with the show. This was when I realized there was something really special about traitors. And it was in the end, which we're going to get to, but it was shocking. It's very. The thing is, it's very unpredictable. See, in my shows, you can look at patterns of behavior and. And kind of predict how the person's going to act next or how the. You know, we know the end to these plays in our fights and Housewives. Right. Most of the time. And this is just so new and so unpredictable, and that's what I love about it.
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Wells Adams
Did you know that it was the last, like, day of filming when it was the last day of filming? Yeah, you did. So, like, they. They let you know, like, it's. This is the last round table, and this is gonna be.
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Dolores Catania
Yeah, yeah. You know.
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Wells Adams
Okay. All right, before we go to the end, let's go to the beginning. Kate is the last trader left in the turrets. Alan joins her to discuss her plan. And she's kind of cross between Trishell and Cherie for the final murder. Think that she made the right decision in not killing Trishell?
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Dolores Catania
No, Trishell's the better player. Yeah. So she may have won. It's so funny because every decision towards the end is so crucial to how it's going to end. You know what I mean? So the smaller that circle gets, that roundtable gets the really. That's when it's, like, really hard because your decisions are making breaking you in any second, you know, along the way we make a lot of wrong choices, you being one of them. On our. On our show, you were a faithful. We got rid of you. But there was so much room to play. It wasn't going to make a difference yet. This is when things really, really make a difference.
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Wells Adams
I mean, I understand Kate's rationale of, like, knocking off another Bravo club person to kind of like get stink off of her, but the amount of, like, bloodhounding I think Trishell was doing and especially towards Kate, I'm not sure. I think I agree with you. And I'm not sure if it was the best play for her game, for Kate's game.
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Dolores Catania
Right. Well, we could always say she could have used the excuse. If I was a traitor, why would I get rid of the one person gunning for me that would make me look so bad?
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
You know, they were coming for anyway. I think she was damned if she did and damned if she didn't because she was the most credible person to be a traitor at the. By that point. Yeah.
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Wells Adams
And everyone seems to have their, like, finger pointed at Kate after the way that she responded to Phaedra the night before at the round table.
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Dolores Catania
You know, moving forward. And I hate to give this up because the newness of it all is still the element of surprise. So as this show goes on, you'll be able to predict things as well. Right. And we still don't realize that it's only the second season and we still don't realize that traders come for traders. I feel like it's still like we're kind of green to it. And by my. By my. By the end of the season three, you realize you can kind of figure it out when two people are really going at each other at the round table, but really going at each other with specific Europe. You are 100 a traitor. And now you really got to look at the other person.
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Wells Adams
Seems like a very fun kind of like final mission.
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Wells Adams
What was your final mission? Do you remember? Was that hanging from a helicopter?
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Dolores Catania
It was hanging from a helicopter, dangling underneath the helicopter and dropping bags of gold into a ring of fire.
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Wells Adams
Oh, yeah. That looks so like so much fun.
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Dolores Catania
It was so much fun. And then also the challenge before, right before that was a lot of walking, a lot of running. We had to walk through the woods and find all these clues to get to the end where we then got into. You had to solve the riddle to get to the next clue. And then we would get into these like old fashioned cars and then drive us to the castle where then the helicopter comes.
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Wells Adams
Well, this was a pretty fun final mission. The helicopter comes, but they're not hanging from it. They are actually going to be kind of going on a treasure hunt that kind of, like, leads them through the. I guess, the hillsides of the locks where they can get deterred and find more money and eventually have to get into, like, a. A dinghy and get out there, raise the flag before 30 minutes, I think is up or 60 minutes is up. It's so invaluable to have a workhorse like ct. Like, that just was like, you go do all of that grunt work, you know, Like, I felt like he was gonna last to the end because. Because everyone was like, yeah, but emissions. He will go, like, carry all the stupid stuff or he'll, like, go run back to the beginning. I'm wondering who was the CT of. Of your season that you think that was, like, the best pack mule for the missions?
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Dolores Catania
Well, to be honest, right until the end, I would say with the last remaining of us, it would have been. I was pretty. Pretty good. But the. The pack of the missions was Dylan Efron, because he was very. But through the season, in the beginning of the times, it was Sam Ashkari.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Never played for himself. Always took care of everybody. Always a gentleman. And, you know, I think. I think we had a lot of pretty, you know, pretty intense people that were willing to get dirty and do whatever. And I'm not going to lie. I mean, I kept up, and I was definitely one of them.
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Wells Adams
Absolutely. I mean, the only two missions that I went on, I remember seeing you, you bust ass, so thank you. I just think it's funny seeing, like, you've got this kind of giant meathead teddy bear who's like, I'll run and go do it, like, in this final mission.
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Dolores Catania
It's so good. It is invaluable. You are right. Yeah.
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Wells Adams
And you can't get rid of someone like that. Like, you need. You need brute force sometimes with someone like that who also is just willing to, like, never will never give up. Congratulations to them. They end up winning, I think, the full $50,000 in the challenge. The prize pots now at $208,000. So we head on back to the cat the castle. Kate is causing chaos by manufacturing mistrust between Trishell, Sandra, and ct. I got to give it to Kate. She's doing a pretty good job of getting the stink off of her.
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Dolores Catania
Well, it's her second time in, so she knows the game. She knows how to do it now. When you get that chance to go back after you learn the game so well, you're a different kind of player. You play differently. Things hit differently, as they say. So she. She's good at it, but she's funny, too. I mean, even if I thought she was a traitor, I'd still listen to.
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Wells Adams
Her going into the final roundtable. I imagine at this point, everyone's just so exhausted. Tell me about how you felt about going into the final roundtable. And then in comparison, like the. To this one.
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Dolores Catania
You want the truth?
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
So the night before this roundtable, Danielle was voted out, and I didn't vote for her. And I was so bitter and angry about that, that the final roundtable was the one roundtable where I said, I don't give a. Who I'm friends with, how close I am. They're going because. And I voted. Of course, you'll find out who I voted for. But it was up until then, like, I finally played as the player because I was ready for it.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
So. And. And you go in also really unsure, because it's the end. You can make it to. To the very end. It's right in front of you, and you still can't trust one single person around you.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
It's a really weird feeling to also. It gets very eerie in the castle towards the end when you don't. When it seems like everyone's gone. Right. And it's a weird. I kind of like. There was one point where I'm walking through the hallway and I didn't know where to go to because there's only, like, four people left. Five people. What room are you going in? Every room is empty. And I felt like, in a really, like, macabre way. Is this what it feels like when you get older and people start to leave you and you lose people close to you, and then it's just kind of like, very sparse, the people that you're around. It was a weird feeling to me, and that just crossed my mind at the time. But, you know, it's. It's kind of like. It's a lot. There's a lot of different emotions going on in that minute, because you don't. It's almost surreal that you made it that far, too.
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Wells Adams
Yeah. The final roundtable is pretty interesting. CT and Sandra realized they were kind of pitted against one another by Kate, which surprised me that the voting went the way it did because it seemed pretty obvious that Kate was manufacturing this. But regardless, Kate, mj, Trishell, and ct, they all vote for Sandra, and she's banished from the game. Why do you think that they pivoted over and, you know, CT and Trishell had this kind of, like, pact beforehand. They were going to go after Kate and they didn't. Why do you think that they ended up pivoting in the middle of that roundtable?
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Dolores Catania
I don't know. Again. And un. I would have never seen that coming. It was unpredictable to me.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Wells Adams
I. I think that there's a world in which it doesn't really matter if we get someone out here at the end of this round table, because, like, if. If I'm ct. I think the way that CT and Trishell orchestrated this whole thing was it should be us two at the end. So let's get everyone out and us two are at the end.
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Dolores Catania
That's the way that I matter at this point. Yeah. Doesn't matter what they are, but you got to get a traitor.
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Wells Adams
Yeah, but it's also a great way of knowing who a traitor is. Right. Because if it isn't her, like, if.
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Wells Adams
If all everything else is equal and, you know, you're gonna get rid of kind of everyone except you two and you get rid of Sandra, and she's not a traitor, well, then, okay, we obviously know Kate's the last one because someone had to have murdered what's your name the night before. Right. So, like, it gives you an opportunity to, like, have an answer before you need the answer. And so, like, I think that, like, I. That's my theory on why CT changed. It was. I don't even care. It doesn't really matter. We can get Kate out on the next one. We're gonna. I'm gonna chisel this down to us, too, anyways.
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Dolores Catania
Right? You could, but. But essentially, you have to be careful about wasting the vote because there's not a lot of room. You don't get a lot of. There's not a big margin to screw up here.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
So. Yeah, but how do you know there's not two traders left? Yeah, they didn't know that.
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Wells Adams
And I also think that that is Trishell's excuse to MJ at the end is how. How was I to know that you weren't still a traitor? Right.
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Dolores Catania
And how would Trishell know that C. T wasn't.
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Wells Adams
Trishell Seemed pretty. Well, I mean, we'll get there. Because the way that CT does switch up in this round table ends up putting doubt in Trishell's mind later on down the road.
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Dolores Catania
Right.
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Wells Adams
Anyways, Obviously, Sandra is a faithful and Trishell is skeptical of CT for breaking their original plan. The last four players join in the Fire of Truth. Now, this is something that very few people get to experience, but you have tell me all the behind the scenes stuff. The Fire of Truth. How late is it? How long have you been sitting around? How annoyed are you? Are you ready just to get out of here and have a glass of wine? What is happening at that moment?
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Dolores Catania
Well, for me, when we're standing there in the circle of truth, it's freezing. It is so cold because it is so late now. You have to understand, I don't know if it's one o' clock in the morning, I don't know if it's 1:30 in the morning. But you know what, at that point, it's like there's nothing more I can do. I have done everything to win this game. I have gone through every mission, I've showed up every day and like, let it fall where it be at this point.
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Dolores Catania
And at that point you're also so tired of losing friends and voting people the wrong people out at times that you're just like, you know, whatever. We were kind of different because we were all. We all came to a decision. Yeah, hopefully. So we thought that we could trust each other and say, let's just, let's just all win here. But that was different here. That, that was. We were all, of course, you know, faithfuls too. But it was just, you have to at that point either either give it up to God or just trust who you're standing next to.
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Wells Adams
How long of a time is it between that last round table and the fire of Truth? Is it hours?
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Dolores Catania
See, time there is very weird because you don't have a watch.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
You have no sense of time. And by then you really don't have a sense of time because now you've been there for over a month with never knowing what time it is. So unless you're cognizant of that, how do you know what's an hour that an hour has gone by? You don't know? Yeah, I don't think it's hours. No, I really don't. But I remember getting dressed up for it. Now we're going to change and we get dressed up and they have these really specific outfits for us all picked out and.
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Wells Adams
Oh, so this wasn't your wardrobe for the last thing.
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Dolores Catania
Well, this one was, but not the jacket. Yeah, and they put heaters in my shoes. Those heating things in my shoes. We had heaters. The heating pouches in our pockets and yeah, and the biggest thing is when you're throwing that pouch in the fire. Yeah, you're so you looked at it 50 times because you want to make sure you threw in the right color.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
There wasn't the wrong color. Now we had to vote somebody out, which we all agreed we wouldn't be doing.
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Wells Adams
All right, so the last four players join the fire of truth. Each person has an opportunity to decide if they want to end the game or banish again. The game can only end if they. If all of them choose to do the exact same thing. So Trishell, CT and MJ all vote to banish again. I think Kate probably can read the writing on the wall. At this point, they're all going to go after her. Alan gives them the final option to end the game or so, so they banish Kate. I feel like hate is just relieved it's over at this point.
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Dolores Catania
Yes and no. I don't think you're relieved it's over because she's standing there saying, this is this money? How much is it? 100.
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Wells Adams
Well, 208,000 if just he wins it.
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Dolores Catania
Yeah. And at that point you're like, listen, everybody knows what they signed up for. The guilt is over. The conscience is over. You become now unconscionable. Now you're like, right there. And you could just take it and run. And at this point you're like, hey, why not? But I think anyway. And, yeah, she was. It's just weird. It's. It's got to be a weird feeling with her standing there knowing, I don't know. I know Kate very well, and I don't think she'd want to take that money, really, to tell you the truth.
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Wells Adams
Really?
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Dolores Catania
Yeah. She's so good and she's. She's so morally correct and everything. I think she would have done it, but I don't think she would have enjoyed it as much as somebody else would have.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Like CT and Shashell.
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Wells Adams
Yeah. This is where it gets it. It is a little dirty. Like, it feels a little dirty. Where MJ thinks that they're all faithfuls correctly so. And that they're all going to vote for it. And then she realizes. You can, you can see the moment when she realizes, oh, my God, you guys are colluding against me and I'm screwed.
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Dolores Catania
First she looks at them, she's like, guys, we made. I have chills. Oh, so sickening.
- [25:01]
Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
She looks at them, she's like, guys, we made it. And then she realizes, they look at her and they're like, yeah, no. And she's like, oh, my God. Now, mind you, she had a baby at home. She left to come here. She made it through every challenge, and she's gotten through every roundtable. I don't agree with what they did. I'm sorry, I just don't.
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Wells Adams
I, I don't either. I, I understand it. I'm surprised they didn't get more backlash for it.
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Dolores Catania
Because gamers watch the show and gamers know what you're supposed to do that I. We got backlash for not voting each other out. Yeah, Dylan, I know, I know. Boston Rob probably said to Dylan, were you stupid?
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Wells Adams
Well, 100. Yeah. Yeah. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. But the thing about it is, is that it came really, really close to CT being the one that got banished there at the end. And if things had gone a little bit different, you know, MJ all of a sudden realizes that, like, you know, she got got. They're coming after me. And then they all vote. And MJ's like, well, I guess I'll vote for Trishell. Trishell Blips and goes on ct. CT sticks to the plan of staying with mj. Now, if MJ had had had any idea what Trishell was going to do or, or if she had just picked CT instead, he would have been out because Chris Trishell made that weird, like, last play against him.
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Dolores Catania
I feel like that was a leftover resentment from when he didn't give her the torch.
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Wells Adams
Yes.
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Dolores Catania
Sorry. Women hold grudges, bro. Yeah, she was very hurt by that and never trusted him again after that.
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Wells Adams
Well, I was just sitting there thinking, like, wow, we were so close to going in a completely different way. But regardless, they end up, you know, kind of finally coming together. Ct, I think, looks in her eyes and is like, I'm so sorry. Let's vote for MJ here and be the winner. And that's kind of how it ends, as MJ's walking away. How angry would you be if you.
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Dolores Catania
Were in her shoes, I was angry for her.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
I'm not an emotional person. I felt like somebody punched me in the stomach. But hey, you know what, mj? You did make a mistake. You had the chance to win and you went against the wrong person. Sorry. You are partially culpable for this. You. You are have to take accountability of your mistake. Your big mistake.
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Wells Adams
She also thought people were traitors. A lot that weren't. And in my mind, I don't know if she. I. If I think that she played as good of a game as Trishell and CT did. I understand them doing what they did. I think it's messed up and they probably all should have sat there and taken it.
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Dolores Catania
I think somebody lasting that far deserves something.
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Wells Adams
Yeah. Well, screen time. Trishell and CT both reveal that they are faithfuls. They win together, they take home $104,050.
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Dolores Catania
Any, like, humps are on the gold.
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Wells Adams
I know it was very sexual.
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Dolores Catania
I need you to tell me something because that's why I said to Trishell.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Like, all I thought about at the time when I saw that was like, I would be at the bottom of the Hudson. I would not come home. There's no way Paul Connell from Dublin.
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Wells Adams
It would have been a war.
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Dolores Catania
It would have been a absolute end of my relationship. I am not kidding you. And I said to Trisha, like, I didn't even know. I. I'm. I don't know why I didn't know her personal life, and I'm sorry for that because I do know a lot about her, but that I didn't know she was married to a pilot. Whatever. They have this big trust in their relationship. And that's why, like I said to her, like, I got nervous for her.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Ain't no man I ever been with that would have allowed that. But let me ask you something. You're. You. You live in a normal relationship. Would you have been upset?
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Wells Adams
I mean, I guess I have to know the relationship of, of my partner and, and that person. Here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that they have been in the challenge, MTV Real World, Road Rules thing for so long that they are close and that CT's got like, a little bit of, like, a big brother thing.
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Dolores Catania
Yes. I don't. I don't straddle my brother ever. And I'm very close with my brother. I've known him 55 years. Yeah. Anyway, I'm just being a jerk about it.
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Wells Adams
I don't. I don't disagree with what you're Saying.
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Dolores Catania
No, I'm just saying because in my relationship.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
That would not even fly at all. But okay, listen, it was fun. It was funny to watch. Let's not lose sight of this whole big thing. So they win the money, they split the money. It was an incredible, crazy ending for me. It was a suspense to the last second. And then the cherry on top was the mounting of the gold.
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Wells Adams
Yeah. By the way, when he jumps on the gold, I'm sitting there thinking, that's gonna hurt your back, buddy.
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Dolores Catania
First of all, dude, that's heavy. And Allan doesn't like you touching it.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Oh, and then he kisses out like.
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Wells Adams
He kissed Alan a lot. Like multiple times.
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Dolores Catania
Okay. So where I come from.
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Wells Adams
Yeah.
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Dolores Catania
Before this relationship that I'm in, I would be like that. I was always kissy hug. Like I would hang out and it's totally innocent. CT is like one of the guys from Pasig Valley High School I grew up with. And Patterson or Totowa, the guys that stand on the corner with their friends. A. Oh, everybody's family. The repo guy, he's the repo guy. And that's. That's it. But all, all, no harm, no foul. All good. And I'm so happy that your show didn't get in trouble for that. And I'm glad that they're still allowed to be friends. And that's very important.
- [31:32]
Wells Adams
She's also got 104,000 reasons to have her husband not be angry at her for. For what happened at the end of the show.
- [31:41]
Dolores Catania
I mean, if he did it because he was like, hey, listen, take one for the team, baby. If you gotta do what you got to do to win, that's fine. But you're not the man for me.
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Wells Adams
So now let's go through it. So season one, A trader won, right?
- [35:14]
Dolores Catania
Yes. Remember Serene? She was amazing. She was a brilliant gamer. Then there was. Then there's this that the two faithfuls won. But really sticking it to MJ in the end, when they swear honestly, what's the difference of the money? Let's go over this really quick. Wells, you're. You're a smart guy and I Know that you are much smarter than me and you could do the math. So instead. Oh, look, he's taking out his calculator. Okay. At least you know how to use the calculator. So we're splitting that money three ways instead of two. What's the difference of the money?
- [35:50]
Wells Adams
It have been $69,000 each instead of $104,000 each. So effectively $34,000 more after taxes.
- [36:02]
Dolores Catania
Well, yeah, I mean, Scotland and whatever date they live in. Yeah, taxes, let's say 20 something, right?
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Dolores Catania
Was it worth it? Probably really worth it to stick it to MJ like that. First of all, MJ's my friend. Number one, CT. I've never met Trishell. I like you very much, but it wasn't nice. That was not nice to do.
- [36:29]
Wells Adams
Well, it's. Here's the thing. They were faithfuls, but that was some traitorous behavior there at the end.
- [36:35]
Dolores Catania
It was, but I still have to go back to mj. You up. You should have stuck with Trishell and then she probably didn't feel bad after that.
- [36:45]
Wells Adams
Yep. And so then, you know, obviously the next season we know that you famously. A bunch of faithfuls win. So season four coming up at the beginning of next year, it's. It's right now, it's two faithfuls and. And one trader have won. Do you think that there's a chance that a trader wins season four?
- [37:05]
Dolores Catania
There's always a chance a trader wins.
- [37:07]
Wells Adams
Yeah.
- [37:08]
Dolores Catania
A trader is actually due to win because one hasn't won since season one. So, yeah, statistically.
- [37:15]
Wells Adams
Statistically speaking. Well, statistically speaking, the. The trader should always win because the. The informed minority always wins over the uninformed majority.
- [37:30]
Dolores Catania
How did you know? See, I told you you were smart.
- [37:33]
Wells Adams
Well, so this whole. This whole game and the mafia or werewolf is based upon a Russian social experiment. And what they found was, is that, I mean, it's a way to be able to manipulate your population. But what they found was that the. The informed minority would always be able to outsmart the uninformed majority of. So here's my thought. I think that we have now enough case study for people who are going to be traders to see what the pitfalls of the traders have been passed to be able to play a much smarter game than they have these. These first three seasons. So my thought is, is that a trader or traders will win this over faithfuls. But we shall see.
- [38:22]
Dolores Catania
See, I. I'm learning from you. That is so smart what you just said. It was so interesting people to this podcast because that was just amazing, invaluable information that you just told us. I need to read more instead of doom scroll on my Instagram all day and looking at dogs and ballroom dancing and people I wish I looked like. But I'm going to tell you that that is so true and so interesting. And yeah, we need to. But this is my. This is my problem with the, with the game is nothing's as good as the first time. Right. So we've seen like the first time a trader wins and we've seen two faithfuls win and vote out the person at the last minute and then we see what we see on ours. I just don't want to. I. I don't want this to get so, so good that we lose the excitement of it.
- [39:20]
Wells Adams
Yeah.
- [39:20]
Dolores Catania
Like what you're saying, like the more it goes on, the more people learn patterns of what. What can happen and what can do and it kind of takes the excitement and the edge out of it. No.
- [39:32]
Wells Adams
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. I do think though, that the. The production or the game makers have an ace up their sleeve is they can always change things around and make a very similar game be a lot different. And I think that that's what's going to happen this season. I think there's going to be a big switch up than. Than we've had in the past in which will change gameplay. And also Alan has said this is like the most dramatic season or like one of the craziest seasons coming up.
- [40:00]
Dolores Catania
And he said that about ours.
- [40:02]
Wells Adams
I know. Which it was, though.
- [40:04]
Dolores Catania
Okay. But he's gonna say that at all the time.
- [40:07]
Wells Adams
Yeah, it's a little Chris Harrison. This is the most dramatic season ever. I. I get it.
- [40:12]
Dolores Catania
Yeah.
- [40:13]
Wells Adams
All right, so that is the end of season two. We will start up next week with season three, the season. I don't want to spoil it, but the beautiful lady sitting across from me right now may or may not have walked a lot of money. But please go watch the first couple episodes because we'll be recapping that as well. Follow us on social media at by orders of the faithful. And lastly, you're going to Bravo Con. Tell me what that's like because it's.
- [40:39]
Dolores Catania
Are you going?
- [40:41]
Wells Adams
No, I don't. I don't work for Bravo.
- [40:43]
Dolores Catania
I. I know, but you should be there because they're doing a Traders panel.
- [40:47]
Wells Adams
I was. Well, come on. I think you have to be on the show to be on the panel. But.
- [40:54]
Dolores Catania
But you were. And you were such a great part of it. Everyone missed you. But Bravo Con's insane. So if you've ever been to comcon or. Yeah, whatever con you go to, it's thousands of people. It sells out tickets, sell out wells. I think, like, in within a minute, I think maybe 20, 30,000 people, 40,000. I don't know how many come. And. And it's crazy. Fans every day, meet and greets, lines, panels, watch what happens. Live appearances on the stage with every housewife from everywhere. It's like, bra. If, like, if you're a Bravo person, it's Bravo heaven.
- [41:36]
Wells Adams
Yeah.
- [41:37]
Dolores Catania
Because every single housewife that you want to be or look up to or. Or you're a fan of is under one roof.
- [41:46]
Wells Adams
I also feel like, though, it's grants a lot of access to fans who might be a little crazy. Like, can stalkers show up there? Have they shown up there? Is security really tight?
- [41:59]
Dolores Catania
Security is not as tight as it should because it's hard to, like, I've never. There's a bazaar, there's vendors, and I've never gotten to walk through it because they can't get through the door.
- [42:08]
Wells Adams
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [42:09]
Dolores Catania
Because they give us, like, the guards are, like, kids from, like, college.
- [42:16]
Wells Adams
Yeah, yeah.
- [42:17]
Dolores Catania
Who are looking for, like, a job for the week, you know, they're not, like, they don't know how to handle. Yeah, yeah. Not even. And they don't know how to, like, hit. Like, I don't have, like, a big bouncer with me walking through.
- [42:32]
Wells Adams
Yeah.
- [42:32]
Dolores Catania
No. I have a handler, Danielle Trulio, one of my. My dearest, most amazing people in my life, and she happens to be my handler this year.
- [42:43]
Wells Adams
That's nice.
- [42:43]
Dolores Catania
She'll be like more of a bodyguard to me than a bodyguard will be. I'm bringing my assistant to take pictures. Frankie Funicelli. The tickets are very like you. They're unattainable. They really are. So there's backstage passes, there's the regular passes, but all of it is really cool, and the fans deserve it. They really do. They ride hard for us, and they're very loyal.
- [43:10]
Wells Adams
Well, I'm excited for you. Have fun over there. Make sure to tell everyone that will listen that they should listen to this podcast because, yeah, it's a fun show, and season four is coming out very, very soon.
- [43:23]
Dolores Catania
Yeah. So. Well, as I will announce it at BravoCon, at every panel I'm on, I will let them know about us and get the word out.
- [43:32]
Wells Adams
All right, all you faithfuls and traders out there, thanks so much for listening to By Order of the Faithfuls. We'll see you all again. Next week, where we break down a new season in Season three of the Traders.
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