By Order of the Faithfuls: Mischievous, Malicious Michael (Traitors Recap)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: By Order of the Faithfuls – "Mischievous, Malicious Michael" (Traitors Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: By Order of the Faithfuls: Mischievous, Malicious Michael (Traitors Recap)
Date: January 17, 2026
Hosts: Wells Adams, Tamra Judge, Dolores Catania
Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode is a passionate, unfiltered recap and analysis of the latest events in The Traitors Season 4, focusing heavily on the drama surrounding Michael Rapaport’s controversial exit, the evolving dynamics among the Housewives, strategic moves by prominent players, and predictions for the rest of the season. The lively banter and inside knowledge from the Bravo world provide both entertainment and sharp insight for super-fans and newcomers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Housewife on Housewife Crime – Lisa Rinna vs. Caroline Stanbury

[02:31 – 05:15]

• The episode opens with the shock of one housewife getting "killed" by another—a dramatic moment both embraced and critiqued by the hosts.
• Dolores: Points out that Lisa Rinna's villain reputation impacts fans' reactions:

  "You have to remember that Lisa left Bravo in the Housewife franchise as a big villain, and she was getting so much hate, like, to the point of death threats, at which, you know, ultimately she left." [03:29]

• BravoCon backstory: Lisa was heavily booed; negative experiences have influenced her detachment from the franchise.
• Stanbury’s fan-favorite status is highlighted in contrast to Lisa’s polarizing role.

2. Who's Loved and Who's Loathed in the Bravo Universe

[06:27 – 08:12]

• Hosts debate which housewives are most beloved (Candace, Caroline Stanbury) and which are less well-regarded.
• Candace, despite not being loved by her castmates, is praised for her talent and showmanship.
• Lisa’s on-screen villainy versus her real-life treatment by fans sparks debate about audience fairness and the impact of social media.

3. Performers in the Game – Why Actors Excel as Traitors

[08:12 – 10:01]

• Tamra: Praises Lisa Rinna as a “great traitor” due to her acting background:

  "She's a great traitor. And you know what makes her an even better trainer traitor? The fact that she's a trained actress." [08:12]

• The group agrees actors/performers (like Phaedra Parks, Candace) often have an edge in the game due to improvisational skills and resilience under pressure.

4. The Strategic Value of Eliminating Housewives

[10:20 – 11:19]

• Discussion on whether it was smart to eliminate a housewife, weighing plausible deniability and alliance strategy.
• Wells:

  "I think it was smart because Lisa can now say, but I wouldn't get rid of her. She's a housewife. I would never do that. She—It gives her plausible deniability and I think that was smart." [10:45]

5. Colton: Charisma or Chaos?

[15:27 – 16:58]

• Colton’s aggressive gameplay is both admired and critiqued. He’s seen as potentially overplaying and making himself a target.
• Tamra:

  "I think Colton's on a pedestal in his own mind, period ... he definitely got under a few people's skin there." [16:28]

6. Michael Rapaport – Divisive, Distracting, Doomed

[18:19 – 26:16]

• Michael’s social faux-pas (notably his way of eating and brash communication) made him an easy target—more for personality than gameplay.
• The banishment is seen as a waste, with Tamra warning:

  "Don't waste your votes when you play this game, because the end of the game gets there before you know it ... Don't vote a faithful out because they're a bad faithful." [28:53]

• Debate over whether Michael’s infamous comment to Colton was mean-spirited; consensus is it was more awkward than malicious.

7. Quiet or Vocal: Game Theory on Traitors’ Survival

[32:51 – 34:12]

• The group speculates whether being quiet or loud is the better traitor strategy. Lisa Rinna’s shift in behavior ("not talking") raises suspicions among players, including her allies.

8. Shield Strategies & Mission Gameplay

[33:26 – 35:07]

• Complex shield mechanic discussed; confusion about whether players should take the shield to avoid murder or leave it to stymie the traitors.
• Wells:

  "Let's say they did take a shield. Who were the traitors getting rid of?" [35:03]

9. Predictions & Smart Plays

[40:14 – 42:53]

• Predictions for endgame: Candace, Dorinda, and Eric are viewed as likely to last; Lisa Rinna and Candace may be trouble for themselves if they get too vocal.
• Rob’s underestimated intelligence is called out humorously after correcting Michael’s grammar:

  "The more I watch this guy, the more I love him ... he's correcting people's grammar, and it is fantastic." – Wells [29:43-29:58]

10. The Emotional Core: Money and Motivation

[44:21 – 44:55]

• The hosts empathize with Tiffany’s emotional exit speech about wanting to support her child’s education, while also noting that historically, “the rich ones always win.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dolores: “You have to remember that Lisa left Bravo in the Housewife franchise as a big villain, and she was getting so much hate, like, to the point of death threats...I think she's got a bitter taste in her mouth.” [03:29]
• Tamra: “She's a great traitor. And you know what makes her an even better trainer traitor? The fact that she's a trained actress.” [08:12]
• Wells: “I think it was smart because Lisa can now say, but I wouldn't get rid of her. She's a housewife. I would never do that. She—It gives her plausible deniability...” [10:45]
• Dolores: “Who eats like that? ... Throat punch. That’s what he would get.” – about Michael’s eating [20:43]
• Tamra: “Don't play like that.” – on banishing players out of annoyance, not strategy [36:07]
• Dolores: “I feel like everybody wants him gone, but for some strange reason, he just keeps getting by.” – on Ron [22:42]
• Wells: “The more I watch this guy, the more I love him ... he's correcting people's grammar, and it is fantastic.” [29:43-29:58]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:31 – 05:15] – Housewife drama recap: Lisa Rinna vs. Caroline Stanbury, BravoCon context
• [06:27 – 08:12] – Who's loved/hated: Candace, Caroline, Lisa
• [08:12 – 10:01] – Performer advantage: acts/attorneys as Traitors
• [15:27 – 16:58] – Colton's gameplay style
• [18:19 – 28:53] – Michael Rapaport's problematic social game and exit
• [32:51 – 34:12] – Role of quiet versus vocal strategies for traitors
• [40:14 – 42:53] – Endgame predictions and meta-game insights
• [44:21 – 44:55] – Emotional farewells and the realities of money as motivation

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Themes & Tone

• Tone: Snarky, candid, playful, with plenty of behind-the-scenes insider chatter and heartfelt moments.
• Themes: Reality TV psychology, fandom backlash, savvy game theory, the performer’s edge, and the emotional stakes for players.

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Summary

This fun, gossipy episode breaks down the latest Traitors drama with wit, sharp insight, and warmth—mixing behind-the-scenes Bravo knowledge, discussion of strategic gameplay, and plenty of shade. The hosts provide a mix of humor and honest empathy, making the recap both entertaining for super fans and accessible to newcomers. Their predictions and perspectives offer both smart gameplay analysis and the unique emotional twists that only Housewives (and their friends) can provide.

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Transcript

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[Wells Adams]

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[Wells Adams]

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[Wells Adams]

All right, welcome all you faithfuls and traders out there for another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wells Adams alongside the beautiful Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania.

[Tamara Judge]

Ladies. Hi. Well, you're such a chimer.

[Wells Adams]

I'm just trying to do my best

[Tamara Judge]

to keep the housewives happy.

[Dolores Catania]

He must have eaten his Wheaties today.

[Wells Adams]

Well, you know, I feel bad for the housewives, and I'll tell you why. Because the episode starts with a housewife

[Dolores Catania]

getting killed by a housewife.

[Wells Adams]

It's Housewife on Housewife crime.

[Tamara Judge]

It.

[Wells Adams]

It is.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't say I wasn't upset about this, because I was.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, it's bad, but it's also. Was very entertaining. I mean, the way that Lisa was like, back to Dubai, you go, and,

[Tamara Judge]

you know, Carolyn was like, oh, I guess I'll see you at Bravo Con. She's like, you'll never see me again. Like, listen.

[Dolores Catania]

No, you won't.

[Tamara Judge]

I have to tell you, Caroline Stanberry is a fan, big fan favorite. And there is a lot of shit online about Lisa. Like, people are mad at her, but there are some that are like, cool queen. Love the way she spoke. They. They live for that part of her. But again, like I said, this is. It is not for the faint of heart. The Bravo fans are hard on you.

[Dolores Catania]

You have to remember that Lisa left Bravo in the Housewife franchise as a big villain, and she was getting so much hate, like, to the point of death threats, at which, you know, ultimately she left. And I think she's got a. She's got a bitter taste in her mouth.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm gonna go on a limb, though. Has the show been the same without her?

[Dolores Catania]

No, I'm not saying it has, but I'm saying, like, the fans, the last time they saw her on reality tv, she was a big villain. And now. So people are like, here she goes again. Like, they're going after her. I see it as being very entertaining. She is. She is acting. She's definitely.

[Tamara Judge]

She's an actress. She's formally trained actress.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. And I think that, you know, even in the. At the breakfast when she was there, she was stressing me the hell out by answering these questions, and she didn't look like she knew what she was saying. Now. I wasn't sure. Like, did she get tied up like the rest of them? Did she experience the same thing as the rest of them?

[Tamara Judge]

She just wong it. She was winging. It's called winging it.

[Wells Adams]

Oh.

[Dolores Catania]

So she was just purely like, this was what happened. And it. I'm like, oh, she's dead. But when she threw in the ax. Ron didn't mention the ax. I'm like, oh, shit. But then somebody else did.

[Wells Adams]

She was good at describing it. But hold on, really quickly. Can you guys just talk to this? Because maybe not everyone's a huge housewife fan and might not understand what's going on. Like that. Me, actually, I want to know this. That quest, when she said, like, I'll see you at Bravicon, and she's like, no, you won't. I was like, oh, what's the deal? I don't understand. Like, what. What's the history behind that? And why did she say it that way? And, like, what is. What does that mean?

[Dolores Catania]

Lisa wants nothing really to do with housewives. People want her to come back. I want her to come back. The show has not been the same since she's been gone, and I think that she's moved on, and she wants nothing to do with the housewife industry. Like, I'm sure she was invited to Bravicon and she declined, and she was probably invited to Ultimate Girls Trip and probably declined.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she was not treated well at BravoCon. She was booed when she walked on stage, heavily booed by thousands of people. And they were. They didn't stop. And she actually was sitting behind Teresa and I, and she's like, what do I do? I'm like, you just have to ride it out.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, these Bravo fans are over the top, and they can, you know, each season can either make you or break you or totally destroy you. And it totally destroyed her, her mental peace, her. I don't know, her trusting the process of reality tv, and she's just like, no, I don't want any part of it anymore.

[Tamara Judge]

She didn't leave on a good note.

[Dolores Catania]

No.

[Wells Adams]

So of all the housewives that are on this show, which there are a lot on season four, who is the most beloved by the Bravo audience and who is the least.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, Candace was always loved. Candace is no longer on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

She wasn't loved by the girls.

[Dolores Catania]

She wasn't loved by the girls. But as you can see, Candace runs the show. And she's so good. She's so talented. You know, she's a singer. I think she's an actress. Like, she kind of.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a really good singer.

[Dolores Catania]

Very, very, very talented person, and she knows what she's doing, so sometimes it might be a little intimidating to the other cast. So she. I think she's. She's loved. I think she's missed Caroline Stanberry. I think she's. She's a loved character. Right?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, last night, she was. I didn't know that she was a loved character, to be honest. I don't think there was always a lot. There wasn't always a lot of attention on Dubai Wells, which is where she was a housewife up. So I couldn't say who was hated and who was loved. Right. That the show is now no longer. But so, you know, Caroline was definitely loved last night. When you. When somebody that people don't like come after you Then people are going to

[Dolores Catania]

stick up for you. I mean, how can. She's tied to a tree and she's being insulted by Rena. Like, of course she's going to get

[Tamara Judge]

a lot of love.

[Dolores Catania]

People on, especially on social media, love the underdog.

[Tamara Judge]

That's true.

[Wells Adams]

I don't know that, like, Lisa Rinna is a villain because I don't, I don't watch Real Housewives, but watching that scene, I was like, oh, she's a good traitor. This is a fun villain.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a great traitor. And you know what makes her an even better trainer traitor? The fact that she's a trained actress. Yeah, that helps in the Torrent. It really, really does. And I just, I have found that people that are performative, like Phaedra Parks, she's an attorney. She's good on her feet. And you become, as an attorney as well, quite the actor. Right. When you're, when you're in a courtroom and you're standing up in front of a jury, you're acting. You're trying to get them to convince them about who what you're saying is true. So I like the actors in the Torrent.

[Wells Adams]

I do too. And I'll tell you this. You know, I'm married to an actress and.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. That's why you would know. Right.

[Wells Adams]

So here's the. Yes. Yeah. But here's the thing. Like, actors, they have crazy call times. Like, sometimes they'll be in their trailer until 4 in the morning and then have to go out and do something. And when I was doing that show, I was thinking, like, I would not be good at like, having to like, stay awake all night long to like go in the turret to film, to be a traitor. But an actor would be so good at this because they're so used to like, well, I'm going to go sit in my trailer for three hours and then when it gets dark enough and everyone leaves and I can go do this thing. And I was thinking about it in terms of like, it would be so genius to have an actor in that turret. And then they have it.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm with you on that, Wells. I wouldn't be able to survive on three hours sleep and for up to like a month.

[Tamara Judge]

See, I would.

[Dolores Catania]

On your body.

[Tamara Judge]

I would. Because I liked. I like that.

[Dolores Catania]

But I like 10 hours.

[Tamara Judge]

See, I like working under pressure and I. And I like that. Maybe I would have been a good trader. Who knows? Nobody would have suspected me.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. But did you guys absolutely love everything about Rena leaning into the whole trader role and the way she was. I did okay. You didn't think it was like performative or anything like that? It's just. Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was a little tea, but it was good.

[Tamara Judge]

So we lost two good people last night. We did. Maybe not the most well liked, but we lost two good big personalities there.

[Dolores Catania]

Let me ask you a question. Do you think that it was smart for the housewives to get rid of a housewife which makes less housewives in the house and they always come after the housewives. The, the gamers do.

[Wells Adams]

I think it was smart because Lisa can now say, but I wouldn't get rid of her. She's a housewife. I would never do that. She. It gives her plausible deniability and I think that was smart.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. At first I thought it was really smart because it's like, oh, wait a minute, there's not a housewife as a child.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know if it was smart, but it was the best choice considering. I feel like for what they had to choose from, that was the best poison to pick.

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[Dolores Catania]

What are your guys's thoughts on Colton?

[Wells Adams]

I was just gonna ask the same thing. This is a guy who I've worked with on multiple shows at this point. You know, I think that Everyone goes into the show thinking that they're gonna, you know, keep a tight lip and, like, try to play it under the radar, and then you get there and you just can't. You can't do that.

[Tamara Judge]

Certainly Michael Rapaport couldn't.

[Wells Adams]

No. And we're gonna get to him. And I'm so excited to talk about Michael Rapaport, but for Colton, sometimes I worry that he's doing too much. Like, he. Okay, so I'll say this. Sometimes I wonder if he still thinks he's the star of this. Like, he's the bachelor, like, he's the star of the show. I'm going to go after everybody, and I worry about him, that him doing that is going to put a target on his back.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, of course it's going to.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm sure it puts his target on anyone who does that.

[Dolores Catania]

Do you think that Colton getting Donna right really put him up on a pedestal in his own mind?

[Tamara Judge]

I think Colton's on a pedestal in his own mind, period. But I think that. I think he's like that guy that gets under your skin. He definitely got under a few people's skin there. And I think that he's like the kind of guy that can make you, like, spiral while he sits there and goes, now I'm getting what I want.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, he's so handsome. He is.

[Tamara Judge]

But he's a ball buster.

[Wells Adams]

He was right about Donna, but he was very wrong about Tiffany.

[Dolores Catania]

He's wrong about everybody else. He was only right about Donna.

[Wells Adams]

You know, I'm not trying to defend Michael Rapaport, but, like, I do feel like he didn't take any heat for being so wrong about Tiffany, whereas Ron, I feel like, is taking a lot of heat for being wrong about. Was it Portia? Is that who was. I can't even remember now.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So that they keep bringing up Portia over and over again to Ron. Ron, I think him personally, he's taking it so hard, and you could see it on his face.

[Tamara Judge]

But he's getting nasty also. Like, you know, Colton, listen, there is something to be said about the good looking person with the smile who can be charismatic, who's aesthetically more pleasing than the other people that are fighting with the other people. You know what I mean? It's. He's just, like, bringing them in with his looks and his swag and his this, and he's being soft spoken. He's like, but I don't know why you're talking to me like this. Meanwhile, he pushed every trigger button that there is. Where Ron is like, I don't fucking care if you're a fucking housewife. I don't fucking watch tv. Like, he's getting nasty and it's. It makes you dislike him.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Can we talk about Rob's overalls? Wells, would you wear overalls in the next. I was kind of hoping you'd wear overalls in the shirt on. Yeah, on today's pod.

[Tamara Judge]

Come on.

[Wells Adams]

I've got some, actually. I just don't know if I'm ready for the world.

[Tamara Judge]

Why do you have a pair of overalls? I want to know.

[Dolores Catania]

I do, too.

[Wells Adams]

Because they were cool in the 80s.

[Tamara Judge]

You still have them. I wore them in the 80s. They're long gone.

[Wells Adams]

My Oshkosh Bagash.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you were 12. Maybe you weren't born in the 80s.

[Dolores Catania]

And they still fit.

[Tamara Judge]

How old were you? Oshkosh Bagaj.

[Wells Adams]

I was born in 84.

[Tamara Judge]

It goes up to a size 10.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I love a good pair of overalls. I have a pair of free people overalls and I love them.

[Wells Adams]

You know, that's just a testament to how handsome Rob is, is that he

[Tamara Judge]

can pull to get away with that.

[Wells Adams]

Yes. I could never.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you catch Johnny going, he's so hot?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, yeah. I tell you what, Johnny is a

[Dolores Catania]

little sexy or something like that. I can't remember.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, I agree with him, but I don't.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

We.

[Tamara Judge]

Have we heard a lot from Johnny yet?

[Wells Adams]

No, no. Which makes me think we're going to hear a lot from him later.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, he's kind of flying under the radar. I'm waiting to hear from him.

[Wells Adams]

Okay, let me say this. This is. This is such like a produce oral thing that I do want to point out, and I can say this because I don't know if it's true or not, but the way that you make a TV show, if people are going to be leaving soon, you use a lot of them in the beginning. And you don't.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Wells Adams]

A lot of the people who last a long time in the beginning, Johnny is never on the screen. He's a huge star. We all know who he is. He's got great fashion. I think he's going to last a long time. Same with Mark. A lot of people who are, like, flying under the radar. Like, when I watch Genius, when I watch Colton, Michael, Rappaport, all these guys, I'm like, you guys are on this show way too much. You're gonna last soon.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I'm gonna go.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, okay, I'll take it.

[Dolores Catania]

One thing that bothered Me about. There's a lot of things about. Bothered me about Michael, but did you happen to catch him eating off the plate?

[Wells Adams]

Oh, my God. He was doing it.

[Dolores Catania]

Like, what, What?

[Nancy Glass]

What?

[Dolores Catania]

What? What was going on? That's not the first time he did it. I caught him doing it in earlier episodes. That would be enough for me to banish him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Dolores Catania]

Who eats like that?

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of people.

[Dolores Catania]

Throat punch. That's what he would get.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you're. You're an eating Nazi over there.

[Dolores Catania]

I can't be around somebody who makes a noise that with they swallow.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't stop with you with that. I always send her these memes. I'm like, you know, just to let you know. Like, I just. I know that I could fill out a trivia question about you and I would know that answer.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I have a lot of, like, sensory issues. So, like, someone talking in my ear, like, just want to punch it. Like, it's just like an instinct of.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a trigger. It's called triggers.

[Dolores Catania]

Is that what it is where I want to punch you trigger? Probably. I probably need help, but I tried. Didn't work.

[Tamara Judge]

At least she tried.

[Dolores Catania]

I didn't work.

[Tamara Judge]

I won't even try.

[Wells Adams]

Michael Rappaport needs help, but so does Ron. I feel like everyone's going after him. Do you think it's because people don't like him? Do you think it's because he was wrong about Porsche? Do you think it's because he's not trying to get to know anyone or he doesn't care?

[Tamara Judge]

That's why of.

[Wells Adams]

You know from the Bravo verse, what is it about him?

[Tamara Judge]

Part of he's not that nice. He is not. He's like, I'm not trying to get to know you. Well, guess what, bro? That's part of the game. Then you're not playing the game. You don't have to be nasty. You don't have to speak to people like that. It's not going to get you far because no one will feel sorry about voting you out or murdering you. I would feel no pain at all writing his name down because of the way he speaks to people and the way he spoke to Dorinda. I'm surprised she didn't get all Dorinda on him.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my.

[Tamara Judge]

Surprised me. I never seen Dorinda sit back. I was like, oh, here it comes. And it never came. And it never came. And I'm like, is somebody better check and see if that's an imposter? Because that's not the Dorindo we know. I don't know if she was afraid of him. I don't know what the hell it was.

[Dolores Catania]

I feel like everybody wants him gone, but for some strange reason, he just keeps getting by.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think that one of the reasons they voted out Michael was because they didn't think he was a traitor because they just didn't want him there anymore. Yeah, and that's when you start playing the game the wrong way. Don't you think they wasted a banishment on someone who they didn't think was a traitor? You know what? Tolerate him. Get over it. He did say he was self aware. He's like, I know what I am. I know when I'm doing it, but I cannot stop. Okay? So whatever. Ignore him. Ignore him. But we got a game to play. We don't have. Distracting. Like they're saying, oh, he's distracting to the faithfuls. Give me a break. Distracting.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. So there's two ways to look at it, right? Like, I think for the Faithfuls, he's a detriment because he's. He's running people in the wrong direction or he's just taking up so much oxygen in the room with all his, you know, asinine ideas or accusations. But he's also.

[Tamara Judge]

He's also right.

[Wells Adams]

He's right. Everyone's right. The traders don't want to get rid of him. Right. Like, if you're a trader, I want that guy in as long as possible because he is just distracting everybody.

[Tamara Judge]

But he's also. Have we not noticed, picking the traitors from the second he got there?

[Wells Adams]

Well, he's hard on Colton, but I. Do you think that he only thinks that Colton's a traitor because Colton's going after him?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, I think that. I think that we'll find out more from him, But I think him and him and Colton butted heads really bad.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, you think?

[Tamara Judge]

And Colton. Colton won. Because one thing about Colton is he was smart enough to know he could. He was his Hannibal Lecter. He made him swallow his tongue. That's it. He won.

[Wells Adams]

He let him into a trap. He baited him 100%. Like, he knew that he could get him riled up. He knew eventually Michael would say something stupid. What's crazy, though, is that Ron was f'd. He was done for if it wasn't for Michael's big mouth. Right? Like, I feel like everyone was gonna go towards Ron Funches. And then when Michael did what he did and said what he said, everyone was just like, we just need you to leave the show.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what? I'm gonna say this. It was better for him to be gone at that point because by that time, he was making stupid mistakes and staying saying stupid things.

[Wells Adams]

Do you. You know, he tried to walk it back. He did apologize a little bit. Do you think he meant what he said or.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't think he meant it to

[Wells Adams]

be hurtful, but do you think he meant it the way that Colton received it?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I. I don't think he meant it in any ill way whatsoever.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. It's a hard one because his instant reaction when everybody took it the way, you know, Colton took it was. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you can keep a secret.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So I don't know if it was just. He said he stepped in his own shit with that, and he did. You know, it was an insensitive thing to say. Either way, it's. It's not good.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to know. Know, but I want to tell you this. The reason I'm looking at it is because on my show, Bob the Drag Queen said, you're a royal. You can keep a secret. Like, that's why when Michael said it, I didn't really look at it in the way everyone else did, because I was around it when that meant you could keep a secret. You come from a place where you could keep a secret. That's all.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. I mean, on the other side, he was the Bachelor, and the Bachelor has to pretend to, like, 30 chicks, you

[Tamara Judge]

know, like, he could have meant it that way, too.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Like, you know, it's. You only, like, maybe one or two of them, and then you make believe

[Tamara Judge]

you like them all.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Can we talk about how smart Candace is? I mean, Candace defending Tiffany was probably the smartest thing she could have done. She tried to change everybody's opinion, but now she looks like a super faithful.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she does. Which is amazing.

[Dolores Catania]

This game.

[Wells Adams]

It's got to be so hard to be a traitor and realize that the. The roundtable is going one direction and not go with it. Because if you don't go with it, because you obviously. You know that the person's a faithful. Right. If you don't go with it, then you get to do what. What Kansas is doing, which is. Is going to say, I was the one who wasn't voting for her. You know, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Wells Adams]

I get to use that. It's got to be so hard because you want to make the numbers go the way that you want them to

[Tamara Judge]

go, but you can also say. You could look at Candace and say, well, you didn't go with her because you are a traitor and you knew she was a faithful.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. There's always two sides.

[Tamara Judge]

It could go either way. Way. Yep.

[Dolores Catania]

That's for sure.

[Wells Adams]

You know, I, I. Unfortunately, I thought it would be a closer vote, but it really just was. Michael getting steamrolled? Did you guys like his exit speech

[Tamara Judge]

or was it kind of reminded me of Wes's exit speech?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah. Huh.

[Tamara Judge]

He held it up like, what is it? What's this? I'm. This. I'm the best looking.

[Wells Adams]

I'm the most charming.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm the most charming. I'm the neatest eater.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, you're the worst eater. You got the biggest mouth. Get out. I honestly think they don't even give a shit that he wasn't a traitor. They just wanted him gone.

[Tamara Judge]

They just want him out. And I will say it again. Don't waste your votes when you play this game, because the end of the game gets there before you know it. And then you're going to wish that you didn't throw some boats away. It's different if. It's totally different if you really believed he was a traitor. But don't vote a faithful out because they're a bad faithful.

[Wells Adams]

Can we also talk about. Michael's eating habits are weird, but also his, like, just understanding of the English language a little off.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that was.

[Wells Adams]

I got the alliteration going. You're conniving, you're colluding, you're commiserating cult.

[Tamara Judge]

That means to feel sorry for someone.

[Dolores Catania]

Who was it that corrected him?

[Wells Adams]

Okay, it was Rob, the pretty boy of whom you assume would be not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

[Tamara Judge]

And that was a shocker to me.

[Wells Adams]

The more I watch this guy, the more I love him like, I like him. He's got a nice nose, he's carrying Maura across fields, and he's correcting people's grammar, and it is fantastic.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, by the way, did not anyone notice? Remember, Carolyn said Maura, Maura. And they could have had a little love. Like, they liked each other.

[Wells Adams]

Okay, so that interview is coming out in a couple days, so we do talk to her about a possible showmance, and she may or may not allude to that happening. Make sure you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I would have thought it. I definitely would have thought it, watching it. But Maura, listen, she didn't get in the pond. I. Right now, I don't like pretty girls. You could be pretty, but you gotta get dirty and Right now, Maura, you're not running. You're being held and you're not in the pond. You're not in the fountain. I don't.

[Dolores Catania]

She's so pretty.

[Wells Adams]

I do want them to make babies together, though, right?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. And the worst. But wait, the worst when. When Eric says that his singer ears, he's listened to a song many, many times over. He knows somebody's.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

He felt so bad. He's like. And he referenced being first generation here, taking care as a. And I grew up with all kids who had to speak for their non English speaking parents. I grew up in an Italian neighborhood and they spoke for their parents. They did the mortgages, the bills. He's like, I'm a caretaker. I had to take care of my parents in this country as a young child. So this is killing me. He felt bad. I like him. I love him, actually.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

He's just.

[Tamara Judge]

Sweetheart, okay to be wrong, but don't be so Listen, in this game, don't make the mistake of being. I'm so sure. Yeah, I'm so sure. Don't say that because you're never sure 100% unless you're a traitor. And Christian, Kristen Kish, who I love, was on the panel with me at bravocon was like, I know it's him. I know him. It's Colton. It's Colton. I wanted to shake it, say, don't be so sure because you lose credibility. Dylan lost credibility playing with me when he was so sure that Bob Harper was a traitor and then he wasn't so moving forward. When Dylan was right about things, I was like, I don't know. You were so sure once before.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I. Colton. I think you might have said this about Colton before. Well, is that he kind of reminds me of Pete the. The pilot.

[Tamara Judge]

Pilot. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

That was on my season.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, if pilot Pete and Dylan Efron had a baby, if you were

[Dolores Catania]

on this season, would you think that he was a traitor, Colton? Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You would. See, I would think he's just too vocal and I just wouldn't. I don't know. I feel like traders are always kind of the more quiet ones. Now Lisa Rinna is getting a little bit of heat because she's not very vocal and even her good friend Dorinda

[Tamara Judge]

said, yeah, she didn't say much. Yeah, she doesn't talk.

[Dolores Catania]

She go, no, she. She threw under the bus. She's like, normally she talks a lot. She's not talking. So now there's suspicion. But Aren't they getting rid of that suspicion in the turret?

[Wells Adams]

Well, we don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, they are. Well.

[Wells Adams]

Well, it ends with us not knowing if they. If anyone took a shield. And if they. If someone took a shield, then they can't kill anyone. I have a feeling that they did, and I have a feeling that they're going to try to get rid of Colton.

[Tamara Judge]

It's all over Dorinda's face. She's like.

[Dolores Catania]

I was confused why nobody was taking a shield. What was the reason that nobody wanted to take a shield?

[Tamara Judge]

Because if someone took a shield, that means that. That they were allowed to murder that night. The traitors were allowed to murder. If they left off the shields, then the traitors weren't going to be able to murder. Is that true? Yes, because. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay. I must have missed that. This is where the show confuses me. Like, as if you were Hannah, somebody playing it. You're like, what now what?

[Tamara Judge]

But the problem was you didn't know what the other people were doing, so you could have left the shield there. But if you didn't take it and someone else did, now you're up for murder. Get it?

[Dolores Catania]

Yep.

[Wells Adams]

Well, I think it was the group

[Tamara Judge]

that was a really, really good thought out mission.

[Wells Adams]

I think it was the group that had four shields made available to them because that's a way to, like, entice everyone to be like, well, we. We all take it. We can't all be tra. You know, I think that the only way it happens that a shield was taken, it was in that group where all four of them took it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there was the last. There was two groups where there was four.

[Wells Adams]

All four.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. So the last two groups to get to the statues. The last two statues were both had four shields, I thought.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Anyway, let's say they did take a shield. Who were the traitors getting rid of?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I think murdering Colton would be too obvious on Rena's part.

[Wells Adams]

I agree.

[Dolores Catania]

I think they need to murder somebody that Colton is targeting to maybe put the blame on him.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a good idea.

[Dolores Catania]

Just a thought.

[Wells Adams]

How long does Ron last in this show?

[Tamara Judge]

I think Ron should be the one. The next one up.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And Tiffany left saying, go for Ron next.

[Dolores Catania]

Do you guys think that the Traders have a chance of winning this game?

[Wells Adams]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, me too.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think the Faithfuls are playing the greatest game. That's how I feel. Getting rid of somebody at the round Table because they just can't stand them is not a way to play the game. Sorry, no.

[Wells Adams]

But Dolores, we tried to do that with Sandoval. A lot of people wanted to get rid of him just because they were

[Tamara Judge]

annoyed with him, including me. That's why I made the mistake. And that's why I'm trying to tell you. Don't play like that.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.

[Wells Adams]

This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

This MSS officer has no idea the US government is onto him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer. No doubt, no question of his life. And that's a unicorn.

[Wells Adams]

No one had ever seen anything like that.

[Tamara Judge]

It was unbelievable.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jo Winterstein]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a

[Dolores Catania]

mini driver, the Irish traveler said when I was 16.

[Tamara Judge]

You're going to have a terrible time with men.

[Jo Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to part partnership.

[Tamara Judge]

He really has taught me to embrace

[Dolores Catania]

people sleeping in different rooms on different houses, in different places, but just an

[Tamara Judge]

embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jo Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

[Amanda Knox]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK evoking horror and disbelief.

[Wells Adams]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is

[Tamara Judge]

now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

[Amanda Knox]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict. A villain. A nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Wells Adams]

Lucy.

[Tamara Judge]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Amanda Knox]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Wells Adams]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the Case collapses.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Jo Winterstein]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Wells Adams]

It'll cause so much harm at every

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau]

single level of the British establishment of this is wrong.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpt became the victim of a random crime.

[Tamara Judge]

He pulls the gun, tells me to

[Wells Adams]

lie down on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Wells Adams]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything.

[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Wells Adams]

Who do you think is going to be there at the end? Trader and faithful. Wise. Let's take maybe a couple traders or let's take one trader and a couple faithfuls. Who do you think is going to be there at the end?

[Dolores Catania]

I think Candace will be there at the end, but then you just never know. It could take a ch. You know, a quick right so fast in this game.

[Tamara Judge]

I think the way Dorinda's playing, very safe. I think she can make it to the end.

[Dolores Catania]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

Right now it's still early to be able to tell. There's still a lot of people there. Ask me next.

[Dolores Catania]

You know who I really like is Eric.

[Tamara Judge]

I love Eric. Why do you like him so much? I don't know.

[Dolores Catania]

He's just so cute.

[Tamara Judge]

He's so nice.

[Dolores Catania]

Soft spoken and so he's like, well, yeah, he's just such a. Like a. The good old boy, you know, he's

[Tamara Judge]

just such a gentleman. He's a decent person, huh?

[Dolores Catania]

Really like him.

[Wells Adams]

Who's the first trader to get ousted from the turret?

[Tamara Judge]

I think Lisa.

[Dolores Catania]

I do too. I think it's Lisa. I think she's gonna now go back into the game trying to say more and do more and it's gonna get noticed because I remember I told Phaedra way back when, I'm like, you don't. They didn't show up. But I'm like, you don't talk.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm taking this back. I'm taking this back because Lisa's. Again, I. I'm all for the play. Play it safe. Lean back. I'm going to say Candace is too vocal, and I'm. And I think she's. She's stepped up a couple of times, screwed up a little bit with some things, and she started out by screwing up with Michael Rapaport in the very beginning. See, the two people that were onto her were Portia and Michael, and they're gone. And I'd be noticing that.

[Wells Adams]

That's a good call. Do you think that people will ever get wise to Rob, or is he just, like, way too much of a, you know, a red herring? Like, I'm not sure. I believe that he would.

[Tamara Judge]

I wouldn't believe he's too. Not like, he's. I'm just saying, like, who would have thought. Carolyn was.

[Dolores Catania]

I would just keep him for the overalls.

[Tamara Judge]

I get that. I like his little cross tattoo.

[Dolores Catania]

I know, because Paul has the same one snake going all over his body.

[Wells Adams]

He hasn't made any mistakes. Except for correcting Michael Rapoport, actually, when I think about it, why was that

[Tamara Judge]

with the wrong word?

[Wells Adams]

I. I think that he's got this great character of. I'm just like the handsome, you know, idiot. I don't know what's going on. And then all of a sudden, he was like, that's not what that word means. I would have been like, oh, you are really.

[Dolores Catania]

You're smart. Yeah, you're smart.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I see what you're saying. I was like, what's wrong with what

[Dolores Catania]

he did one of you guys know that Michael was using that word incorrectly?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores Catania]

Neither did I. I told you.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm telling you the truth. You did?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I didn't. I had no idea.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, it doesn't sound like commiserating. Sounds like miserable. So it doesn't sound like.

[Dolores Catania]

What is commiserating mean?

[Tamara Judge]

Feeling sorry for someone.

[Wells Adams]

It's having sympathy for someone.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, okay.

[Wells Adams]

Like, I'm commiserating with you.

[Tamara Judge]

I probably would have used it the same wrong way, too. Probably.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I like to try to use it.

[Wells Adams]

I like that he went with the alliteration. Very fun.

[Dolores Catania]

That was great. But you're right. People might start thinking, oh, yeah, I. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

That would take really smart people to do.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not saying they're dumb. Dumbs.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not saying right now, this is the sharpest cast I've ever seen.

[Wells Adams]

Oh, I think the traitors are really smart.

[Tamara Judge]

Traders are really smart. I love the trader.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I think that we have an actress.

[Wells Adams]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And then we have candace, who is

[Tamara Judge]

very, very intelligent and also an actress. She's. She sings. She's a performer.

[Dolores Catania]

She's a performer.

[Tamara Judge]

She's a performer. So there.

[Dolores Catania]

And I think performers do very well on this show. Like phaedra. She went really far and she's a performer.

[Tamara Judge]

That's why. That's why. And the crying. The crying.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you feel bad when tiffany left?

[Tamara Judge]

I did. Well, I did.

[Dolores Catania]

You know what a speech about I want to put my kid through college. I was like, oh, God, give me your number. I'll give you some money.

[Tamara Judge]

It was so bad. Here's the setup.

[Dolores Catania]

But go fund me.

[Wells Adams]

Exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

I hear. But every season. Every season, somebody's there and more than one person's there saying, I need the money. I just need the money. And they don't usually make it. The people that go there playing that way we all know it's the damn

[Dolores Catania]

rich ones that win

[Tamara Judge]

like a royal.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You got to play. Just be in yourself and saying, I made it another day. I made it another day. You can't let it get in your head too much. I really believe that.

[Dolores Catania]

So do we think colton's gone next week?

[Wells Adams]

No, I don't think so either. I think he's gonna last a while. I think he's gonna go out in a round table, not a murder.

[Tamara Judge]

You do?

[Wells Adams]

Yeah, I don't think. I think lisa, it's threatened by him, but getting rid of him paints a big target on her back. So I think that the way to go about getting rid of him is to skew votes at the round table. And I think that lisa and the rest of the traders can help facilitate that. We've also got three votes. They can say, okay, hold on. We won't kill him, but I need you guys all if it starts going towards colton to vote to vote with me.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wells Adams]

So.

[Dolores Catania]

So would they end this episode where they don't know. Right. If there's a murder tonight or not? So the only way there would be a murder is if somebody took a shield. Is that how the game went? Yes. Okay.

[Wells Adams]

Exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

And it was very enticing because there was four shields so nobody. They could all agree on taking it.

[Wells Adams]

I'm telling you, they took it.

[Dolores Catania]

Who do you think would have took it?

[Tamara Judge]

Human nature.

[Wells Adams]

I think it was the group with, like, Dorinda.

[Tamara Judge]

Dorinda. Dorinda's face it was all over her face.

[Wells Adams]

Dorinda. I think Colton was in that group.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh. So, yeah.

[Wells Adams]

Anyways, this, this season has been very, very fun so far. We're only five episodes in and I'm like, totally locked. Maybe one of my favorite ones thus far.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

[Wells Adams]

If you guys aren't following us on social media, please do at by order of the faithful faithfuls. Tell your friends if they're big faithful fans to make sure that they're listening to the podcast. Coming up on Sunday, programming note, we are going to have Carolyn on the show and she's going to be dropping some behind the scenes stuff that you might not have seen, talking about potential showmances and much, much more. Something you do not want to miss. And of course, we'll be back again very, very soon.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, well, looking forward to it, ladies.

[Wells Adams]

It's always a pleasure hanging out with you guys.

[Tamara Judge]

A pleasure.

[Wells Adams]

If you guys are following us, please do on social media. And yeah, you guys have a wonderful weekend.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you.

[Wells Adams]

See ya.

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[Narrator of The 6th Bureau / Confessor]

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[Nancy Glass]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Jo Winterstein]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Jo Winterstein]

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[Tamara Judge]

Evidence has been made to fit.

[Wells Adams]

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[Amanda Knox]

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[Jo Winterstein]

Oh, my God. I think she might be innocent.

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Listen to the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.