By Order of the Faithfuls: The Red-Cloaked Reaper (Traitors Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: By Order of the Faithfuls — "The Red-Cloaked Reaper" (Traitors Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp, Tamra Judge (with guest Alan, By Order of the Faithfuls)
Release Date: January 10, 2026
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive recap and breakdown of the first three episodes of The Traitors (Season 4) with an emphasis on the star-studded new cast—especially its many Housewives. Teddi, Tamra, and guests react to early gameplay, casting choices, and key moments, mixing behind-the-scenes insights with signature housewife banter and sharp reality TV commentary.

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1. Overview & Main Theme

This episode marks the launch of The Traitors Season 4, boasting its most dramatic and celebrity-stacked cast yet. The Three Ts (Teddi, Tamra, and Alan) are brimming with excitement as they rehash the first three episodes, picking apart cast choices, gameplay strategies, surprise twists, and housewife representation on the show. Expect candid opinions, predictions, insider takes, and plenty of reality TV love.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. Cast Breakdown & Early Impressions

(02:24–08:53)

• Housewives Dominate the Season:
  • "You got Caroline Stanberry. You've got Dorinda making a triumphant return, which is lovely. Um, you've got Lisa Rinna, who's just chef's kiss of a personality. Portia's there." – Alan (04:15)
  • The hosts agree Housewives now feel essential to The Traitors formula.
  • "We do bring the drama, and they do love drama." – Tamra (04:44)
  • Banter about a Housewives-only season, predicting 'at least one fist fight' and even joking, 'And one real murder.' (05:14–05:17)
• Candace Dillard’s Star Power:
  • "She’s extremely entertaining…her confessionals are going to be over the top. I’m just fearful that because she talks so much, it’s going to get her vanished." – Female Co-host (03:41)
  • Candace’s intelligence highlighted: "She has, what, two master's degrees?" – Tamra (03:56)
• Colton Underwood:
  • The group recaps his reality bio, coming out story, and his initial sharp gameplay instincts.
• Rob from Love Island:
  • Not well-known but earns admiration: "He’s got, like, some real sex appeal going on there." (08:05)
• Comic & Chef Additions:
  • Ron Funches praised as a fresh comedic energy.
  • A chef contestant makes an early gaffe ("buttering bread") that becomes a running joke about "trader behavior."
• Special attention given to drag queen Monet X Change and other reality TV alumni.

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B. Show Format Shifts & Game Mechanics

(09:14–13:34)

• "Secret Traitor" Introduction:
  • Novelty of not revealing the traitor to the audience praised, but some find execution "falls flat."
    • "I don't understand why they haven't done a season where they just don't tell us who any of the traitors are." – Alan (09:50)
• Casting Critiques:
  • Donna (Taylor’s mother-in-law) highlighted as "too obvious" a casting choice for secret traitor.
    • "To me, that was, that was like a casting mistake. Of course you're going to make, you know, Taylor, Donna." – Alan (10:20)
    • "Donna was just a... known person. Not the most known person." – Tamara (11:00)
  • Some wish more under-the-radar players (like Tiffany from Love Island) had gotten the twist role.

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C. Strategy & Social Dynamics on Display

(13:34–20:19)

• Housewife Traitors – Why Now?
  • Hosts posit producers made Housewife cast members Traitors because they'd been too targeted in previous seasons.
    • "Everyone's going in thinking, no way it's going to be a housewife. No way. It hasn't been. It's not going to be." – Tamara (12:38)
• Social Scrutiny and Early Slip-Ups:
  • Candace is spotlighted for almost getting herself in trouble:
    • "She might get herself in trouble by talking too much, which is kind of what happens in this first episode..." – Alan (15:19)
• Conga Line Distraction:
  • Divisive move, viewed as clever by some, ridiculous by others.

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D. Episode Recap – First Few Eliminations & Gameplay

(16:31–36:07)

• Early Murder:
  • Secret traitor's first murder pick: "The trader didn’t put any women on there, so I’m going to assume it’s a woman." – Tamara (16:55)
  • Ian (gamer) is murdered—seen as a strategic pick.
• Portia's "Freudian Slip":
  • Portia accidentally incriminates herself; hosts remark she didn’t really seem invested in the gameplay.
    • "She would have been a terrible traitor." – Tamara (18:32)
• Michael Rappaport’s Outspokenness:
  • Divides opinions; seen as both an asset and liability for the show.
  • Hosts recount Michael's accidental "we killed Ian" remark and marvel that he avoids suspicion.
• Housewife Camaraderie:
  • Dorinda refuses to turn on Portia; there’s palpable loyalty among housewives even across seasons/franchises.
• Rob Cesternino Murdered "In Plain Sight":
  • Praised for correctly sussing out game mechanics; his savvy makes him a threat.
    • "He was smart. He's like murder in Plain sight tonight. I was impressed with that. Very impressed. Because he knew the game." – Tamara (23:12)
  • Candace narrowly avoids heat because Rob C. catches the scent of her gameplay.

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E. Missions/Challenges & Weather Struggles

(37:14–39:06)

• Stacking Skulls Mission:
  • Hosts enjoy the challenge but empathize with contestants’ discomfort in the cold/wet Scottish woods.
    • "They look fun. They're not that easy, especially with the weather conditions because I don't like being cold or wet." – Tamara (38:47)

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F. Donna's Elimination & Aftermath

(39:14–41:21)

• Donna's Emotional Exit:
  • Universally described as sweet and dignified; everyone laments her early send-off.
    • "I would have vouched for her. I would have stuck up for her...nobody really was there for her. Shame on them." – Tamara (36:29)
    • "I did like her exit. I thought it was very, very good." – Alan (40:28)
    • "She said, I got. I'm gonna get out of here. And then turns away and then comes back and is like, you gotta trade. I was like, oh, that's such a good exit. It's like. And it's such a mom thing." – Alan (40:54)

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G. Predictions & Looking Ahead

(42:17–49:54)

• Possible Next Murder:
  • Hosts and guests speculate the Traders may target Stanberry to deflect suspicion off Housewives.
• Who Will Win—Faithfuls or Traders?
  • "Faithfuls." – Tamara (42:48)
  • Alan feels this could be the season Traders win, given the chaos and mix of players.
  • Debate over which gamers and personalities could make it to the end. Rob, Dorinda, Colton, and Lisa get special mention.
• Strengths and Weaknesses of Traitors Cast:
  • Lisa Rinna praised for acting ability and potential for cunning play, but concern about her being "too obvious."
  • Gamers expected to eventually dominate social game.

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3. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I never want to see another conga line in my life." – Tamra (02:37)
• "We do bring the drama, and they do love drama." – Tamra (04:44)
• "I predict at least one fist fight." – Tamra (05:11)
• "She might get herself in trouble by talking too much, which is kind of what happens in this first episode..." – Alan (15:19)
• "No, not my thing... it worked." (about the Conga Line) – Tamara & Female Co-host (35:32–35:34)
• "He was smart. He's like murder in Plain sight tonight. I was impressed with that. Very impressed. Because he knew the game." – Tamara (23:12)
• "I would have been literally carrying her on my back." (on Donna's age) – Tamara (11:27)
• "I'm making a prediction...I think Caroline Stanberry and her get into it." – Tamara (29:12)
• "If you could choose one person to make it to the end from this initial cast. Who you guys choosing?...Colton." – Tamara (49:45)

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4. Segment Timestamps (Key Topics)

• Cast Introductions & Early Impressions: 02:07–08:53
• Show Format Changes & Strategic Picks: 09:14–13:34
• Housewives as Traitors, Social Manipulation: 13:34–20:19
• Early Gameplay, Roundtable Dynamics: 16:31–36:07
• Challenge Recaps & Weather Woes: 37:14–39:06
• Donna’s Banishing & Emotional Discussion: 39:14–41:21
• Predictions & Favorite Players: 42:17–49:54

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5. Upcoming Episodes & Interactive Component

• The hosts tease upcoming recaps of episodes 4 and 5.
• They note: "DM us there. Any questions? You've got things that you saw in the most recent season that you want us to talk about, and we'd love to answer those on the show as well." – Alan (49:56)

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6. Final Thoughts & Highlights

The podcast blends bracketed insight with fan glee and sharp, unsparing commentary. There's a clear pleasure in reviewing gameplay blunders and production decisions, with former and current Housewives reveling in their own experiences and predictions—always with a nod to the entertainment value and emotional stakes that make The Traitors a reality TV hit.

Standout Themes:

• Housewives' transition from easy targets to major Traitor threats
• The benefit (and headache) of being a known reality TV entity in a deduction-based game
• How social and fan allegiances (ex: fear of "Swifties") infiltrate the game’s paranoia
• The strategic dance between blending in and standing out—whether via chess games, conga lines, or simply keeping quiet

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Biggest Takeaway:
Season 4 of The Traitors is shaping up to be the most dramatic, unpredictable—and reality TV knowledgeable—yet. With strong housewives, sharp gamers, and wild card personalities, even reality veterans like Teddi and Tamra can’t quite predict what’s coming next. Unmissable for fans of the game (and great reality TV).

Transcript

[Alan]

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[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

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Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumprite became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jill Interestein]

Hi, it's Jill Interestein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Krista Williams.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns.

[Jill Interestein]

The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I'm, like, delusionally proud of my chart.

[Jill Interestein]

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, the Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Evidence has been made to fit.

[Alan]

The moment you look at the whole

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

picture, the case collapsed.

[Amanda Knox]

What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe?

[Jill Interestein]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara]

I think she might be innocent.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alan]

All right, welcome in all you faithfuls and traders for another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. Finally, season four is upon us. Dolores, Tamra, how excited are you for the start of this season?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So excited.

[Tamara]

I'm excited.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

This is what we've been gearing up for, guys. So here we are. We have it. It's a great lineup, season four. I mean, Candace Dillard. Should we talk about Candace Diller, Colton Underwood, Caroline Stanberry.

[Tamara]

I never want to see another conga line in my life. She's.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I loved it. It was smart. She was quick. She got them distracted. It was. It was. It could have, like, gone another way. And people thought, oh, what is she doing here?

[Tamara]

Well, no, she's been doing this, and she's been putting herself under the glass, but I don't think she could be quiet.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Do you know what I would have done if I thought it was a good idea? I would have asked one of the faithfuls. Like, don't you think it'd be fun to get a conga line or something? Let's get some energy in here and have someone else do it.

[Tamara]

All right, now we know you.

[Alan]

Let's go through the. Let's go through the entire cast real quick before we start with the episode,

[Tamara]

because I think cast.

[Alan]

I think this cast is fantastic, and we need to touch on everyone because people are dropping like flies. You guys know Candace. She's the first on this list. Is she going to be great at being a traitor?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yes.

[Tamara]

Yeah. Well, Candace, I mean, I would suspect her, though.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yes. But she's extremely entertaining. She's fun. She's going to run the show. Her confessionals are going to be over the top. I'm just fearful that because she talks so much, it's going to get her vanished.

[Tamara]

She is smart. She. She has, what, two master's degrees?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, she's really smart. I love her to death.

[Tamara]

So she is underestimated, but I wouldn't underestimate how savage she could be.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. And she was. I mean, she was supposed to be on last season, and she had a baby.

[Tamara]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She was pregnant.

[Tamara]

They wanted her.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Let's go through all the Housewives so you guys can touch on it. You got Caroline Stanberry. You've got Dorinda making a triumphant return, which is lovely. Um, you've got Lisa Rinna, who's just chef's kiss of a personality. Portia's there. And is that all. Is that all of the.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's all of them, yeah.

[Alan]

I mean, you guys are starting to dominate this show. Like, it is. A lot of housewives on Traders.

[Tamara]

Well, this one is. I feel like you can't really have the show now without a housewife, or. We do bring the drama, and they do love drama.

[Alan]

Yeah. I have an idea for the production company, Studio Lambert. Studio Lambert. What if you did an entire season of Traders with just Housewives?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tamara]

That's like a girls trip.

[Alan]

That's just an episode of your guys's show.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think that would be amazing.

[Tamara]

I predict at least one fist fight.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Oh, yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And one real murder.

[Alan]

There are. There are a bunch of people. Yeah. Real, Real death.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

A real murder.

[Alan]

Colton Underwood, who was the Bachelor. He was on my show Bachelor in Paradise years ago.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Wait, Colton, was. Was he a football player?

[Alan]

He was a football player. He was. He went on the Bachelorette, and then he went to paradise, and then he came.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Then he came out gay.

[Tamara]

Right.

[Alan]

Then he became the Bachelor, and then he came out as gay. And now he's married and he's got a kid, and. And he's there. I. He will get to it, but does a very good job of sniffing out a traitor.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Right off the bat, he's giving me, like, pilot Pete vibes a little bit.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

100%.

[Alan]

I'm excited to watch Johnny Weir on my screen. I think that he's going to be very, very fun and over the top, but the person. And then speaking of over the top, you. I'm sure you know Michael Rappaport. I've worked with them before. What are your thoughts about him going on this show?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

There was a lot of negative, you know, comments about him being on the show. He really pisses people off.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So I think that he's gonna be very entertaining. Again, I worry because he's so outspoken. He is who he is on the show, just like he is on his social media.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You know, and he's just calling people out, and I worry people are gonna get sick of it.

[Alan]

Yeah. I gotta say, though, as someone who appreciates good reality tv, he is fun to watch.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He is great to watch.

[Alan]

I'm enjoying. And I. To be honest with you, I love him. And Yam Yam going at it like, it's very, very fun TV for me. And they both won't back down. Monet exchange from RuPaul's on the show. I'm excited about that because Monet x Change and my wife went to high school together at PPA Way. Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, my goodness. I think so far, out of all the. The drag queens that they've had on Traitors, my favorite.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Is my favorite.

[Alan]

Yeah. I'm. I'm. I'm rooting for Monet for sure.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Rob from Love Island. I didn't really know know him.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

What a hottie.

[Alan]

He has this, like, just calm, chill demeanor that like.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Like, I think you. You have to be really, really handsome to be able to pull that off on tv, you know?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He does. He really does. At first, I'm like, I don't even know who this guy is. Why'd they pick him? Da Da, da. And then the more he goes. And then when he has his confessional with his sweater vest on and all his tattoos showing and the more he talked, I'm like, I really like him.

[Tamara]

I was just going to say, it sounds like you really like him.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's kind of. He's got, like, some real sex appeal going on there.

[Alan]

Definitely.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He's the Dylan. I think he's going to be the Dylan of the show. When it comes to the, you know, the sexy guy that's going to get all the commercials. As soon as this season's over, you

[Alan]

can make a lot of money. I've had Ron Funches on my radio program years ago. Very, very funny comedian. I think it's great to have comedians on this show because they're so good at being funny in front of a bunch of people.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Have they had a comedian on before?

[Alan]

I don't know.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't think they have.

[Tamara]

Not on our cast. Wells, right? No, not on yours. Tamara?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, no. And is this the first time they've had somebody from Top Chef?

[Alan]

I think so, yeah.

[Tamara]

She's like, I keep my knives sharp.

[Alan]

By the way, they showed her buttering bread, and it didn't look like she was doing a very good job of it. I don't know if you saw that, like, this is trader behavior. You are a chef. You should know how to butter bread. Let's start at the beginning of the show. Starting out different. Starting out at night.

[Tamara]

That was cool. And, you know, didn't we say something like we wanted there. We wanted to not see one of the traders, or.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We have said it a million times. We want to know, like, it'd be cool to not know who the traders are. So they kind of did it. But I feel like it fell flat in the first three episodes.

[Alan]

It didn't work.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It didn't work. I mean, if all of them were, you know, disguised in the turret, they didn't know who they were, you know, each other were and all that.

[Tamara]

That's a hard game then.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's a hard game. But I. I don't know.

[Alan]

I really enjoyed this secret trader thing because the audience member. You can. You're like, I'm trying to figure it out as well. I do. I. I don't understand why they haven't done a season where they just don't tell us who any of the traders are. Because it was so much fun to be like, well, maybe Ron's right about this theory. Or like, maybe Colton's. I don't know. Maybe. And don't you.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Don't you think that Donna was too obvious?

[Alan]

To me, that was, that was like a casting mistake. Of course you're going to make, you know, Taylor, Donna.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Right.

[Alan]

Mother in law, the big star. You know, like I felt like that was a little too on the nose.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Like they should have just done like Colton or somebody. Yes, right. I just feel like Donna was too expected to be a traitor.

[Tamara]

I think the secret trader should have been. Let me find her. I think that she would have.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The girl from Love Island, I think Tiffany.

[Tamara]

Yeah. I felt like Tiffany would have been indefinitely or somebody very. To me, she would have been very under the radar, you know.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. I thought that Donna was just a.

[Tamara]

I thought it was known person. Not the most known person.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. Donna or Michael. I thought it was one of those two.

[Alan]

Yeah. It's a risk to put someone in such a big starring role and as this secret traitor that isn't like normally on reality tv, you know. And I think that that was what exposed her. She was very, very quiet and people were like, this is weird.

[Tamara]

You know, she's also 74. I give her so much credit for going.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

I would have felt so guilty to even go against her. I would have been literally carrying her on my back.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I couldn't imagine my mom 75. I could not imagine doing this.

[Alan]

My mom's older than that and she would kill at this game. Really? Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, I'm not saying my mom couldn't do it because she's a young 75 year old, but I just couldn't imagine I'd be nervous wreck the entire time.

[Alan]

Oh yeah. Let's talk about the traders. Other than Donna, Kelsey, you've got Candace, you've got Lisa, and you've got Rob. I mean as, as housewives, you must be pretty pumped that you guys are getting.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We are excited, excited.

[Tamara]

I mean, I am excited, very excited for this.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Do you think that they did that because of all the shit the housewives have gotten and all, like everybody's expected, you know, housewives, like they wanted to get rid of them and now they're like, okay, we're going to put them, you know, as traitors. So it's going to be hard to get rid of them.

[Tamara]

I think they did it because. Because they were so targeted the season before.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Every season, my season two, season two, the two seasons, the housewives, they were

[Tamara]

always so targeted there. At this point, the mentality is they're not making a housewife traitors. Like they waited for like the third time to actually put them in because now nobody wants to waste the vote or the thought like they have in the past too. Everyone's going in thinking, no way it's going to be a housewife. No way. It hasn't been. It's not going to be. You can never really predict the way they're going to go. You can't. There's too many different equations they could do.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought it was pretty cool that, you know, they start off immediately, you know, at nighttime, and Alan's like, okay, we're going to pick a secret traitor. And they do this in front of everybody. Like your back is to everybody standing on the stairs and you have to turn around and act like, okay, just

[Tamara]

didn't see your fate.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Nothing happened. Unless it's Michael Rapaport. He's like cream in his jeans that he's there. He's just happy he's there with all the housewives and stuff. He's like, yeah.

[Tamara]

And I love when he gets so offended. Of course he's going to get offended. He's an honorary housewife. That guy swear he loves. He's a housewife historian.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. Yes, yes.

[Tamara]

He loves everything. He loves housewives. He's been on watch what happens live so many times. He would never right away turn. So when he got. If I was waiting for that fight.

[Alan]

Let's go over the traitors between Candace, Lisa and Rob. Who are you the most excited to watch play the game and who are you surprised about after getting to see them in this traitorous role?

[Tamara]

I'm not surprised at any of them or how they're acting. You, you know, we know them well enough wells to know that they. They're savages. Lisa could be a savage. She's can fit this role perfectly. As a matter of fact, I think they're both too obvious.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, Candace was made for this.

[Tamara]

Yeah. I think because I know them. See, the whole thing of showing up to this place and not knowing who's going is for the simple fact you don't know their background. The fact that I know their background, I would say right off the bat they would be traitors. They're calculated, they're manipulative, they're cunning, and all said with love. So I know their history. I know what they're capable of. The gamers. I don't watch games. So when I showed up to my traders, I didn't know any freaking body there or anything that they were capable of. That's the thing. That's how you know how to pick somebody.

[Alan]

I think Rob is a very cool choice. It was not one that I would have thought would have been a good trader. And I'm seeing that he's turning out to be a great one, you know, And I think Candace, one, she. She might get herself in trouble by talking too much, which is kind of what happens in this first episode, right? She. She tells Portia that Michael Rappaport was gunning for the Housewives. And then Portia calls him out, he denies it. Then he confronts Candace. The truth and Candace denies it.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Am I the only one confused with that? Because didn't he. He did say he wanted to put a housewife in the grave, right? Didn't he make that comment?

[Tamara]

And then everyone said no.

[Alan]

The comment he made was like, it was earlier in the day where he said, well, mathematically speaking, someone that's a housewife and someone that's a gamer has to be a traitor later because there's

[Tamara]

so many of them.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Did you notice the slip up?

[Alan]

Which one? In the.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

In when Candace. No, Candace goes, I said that yesterday because, you know, the first episode shot within three days, but they make it look like it's just one day. She's like, I didn't say that today, I said that yesterday. I'm like, well, this is the first episode, so how is that happening?

[Tamara]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan]

But anyways, she kind of, like gets herself out of it. The players head to bed while the traders conduct their first murder. The secret trader will give them a short list of who they can murder. The traders list is Rob, R, Ian, Mark and Eric. Rob is pissed that he was shortlisted. He's determined to figure out the person.

[Tamara]

The trader didn't put any women on there, so I'm going to assume it's a woman. That's how I feel.

[Alan]

Interesting. What did you think of the Secret Traders list, Dara?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought. I mean, at the very beginning, there's no rhyme or reason for anything, right? Like, you don't have anything to go off of. So I think it's like, as a trader, how difficult would that be? That, like, okay, you're a traitor, but you have to rely on this person, you don't even know who the hell they are, and give you these names. But then you also know, okay, well, these three people's name that you just gave me, they're not a traitor. The only thing they're really getting at, I mean, it's gonna be difficult to do that because you're like, wait, you know, we're, we're in the turret here. We're doing this. Why do we have to rely on you to tell us who we can get rid of. But then you do. Like I said, you're gonna figure out that. Okay, well, it's not this person person because they wouldn't give their own name. So.

[Alan]

Yeah, Ian is the one who's murdered. The next day, we find out at breakfast, everyone.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't even know who he is. Who's Ian?

[Alan]

I don't know. He's the first guy that was kicked off the show.

[Tamara]

I kind of feel bad for.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Was he a gamer? He's a gamer, right?

[Tamara]

Yeah, he's a gamer. And he w would have been a threat for sure. So it was a smart choice. But what I liked was he didn't take it personal. Like, he's like, this is the most backhanded compliment that you could get here. So I'm good. Nice way to think about it before you go back to your room and cry. But okay.

[Alan]

Yeah. Colton, Lisa, Natalie think that Donna is suspicious. And then Porsche slips up to Donna and Ron saying, Portia can't keep her mouth shut.

[Tamara]

She would have been a terrible traitor.

[Alan]

Oh, my God. She's saying she killed Ian. And, you know, Ron's like, did you hear that? Like that. Was that a Freudian?

[Tamara]

Why would she say that?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think it's just. I. I don't know. We had that happen on our season. I know what happens later with peppermint, with Michael, too.

[Tamara]

Yeah, it happens. I don't know why anyone would say it. It's like, you got to be really careful. If you can't. You can't add to people's suspicion. You have to really choose your words and be really careful how you speak to someone. And you have to make sure you don't get baited because they're going to hang on your every word. Like, they. They take words and run with it because there's nothing else to run with at the same at this time. So if you get banished because of that, then it's on you. It's not because no one liked you. It's because you up.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. But the very beginning, it's hard. Like, they. You don't have much to go off of. So it's like any little thing.

[Tamara]

Like, Portia went first. I wonder if she cared. She didn't, like, look like she was that upset.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I was shocked, like, at the round table that she didn't really.

[Tamara]

She's a big man.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Say more. Yeah, she normally does, but she didn't really say more to, you know, for her defense. She just. You know what it is?

[Tamara]

Tamara she doesn't know the game. She didn't know the game. She didn't understand the game. She didn't know the game. She probably didn't watch it before she got there. She didn't know how to, like, do defend herself.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

How about when Candace was calling out Lisa as a traitor to the others before she even knew she was a traitor?

[Tamara]

I know what she said.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Listen, well, I was gonna bite you in the ass.

[Tamara]

She said, full disclosure, Lisa. I mean, she did tell her straight out of the gate, first two seconds in the turret. Just want to let you know.

[Alan]

Yeah, Gonna have to walk that back. She said with the. With the Porsche of it all. Yeah. Like, she might not have cared or she might not have known the. The game very well. But I will say this. Ron's, like, collection of evidence was very, very convincing. I thought, like, because we don't know who the Secret Trader is, I was like, there's a chance that he's right, and I could totally see.

[Tamara]

So you would have voted for her?

[Alan]

I might have, yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I probably would have.

[Tamara]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I would have.

[Tamara]

Dorinda switched her vote. At first. She thought it was. Well, no, she. She put. She didn't want to put Portia. She. She didn't feel like she was. But then, see, Dorinda in the. In the scullery, that's the kitchen, in case no one knows. I didn't know that that's what they called the kitchen, the scullery. Dorinda said, not Donna, when Donna's name was getting thrown around. Not Donna. Not Donna. And then at the round table, Dorinda voted for Donna.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, it's because she didn't want the swifties coming after them.

[Alan]

Yeah, smart.

[Tamara]

Well, she voted for Donna because I don't think she wanted to turn on a housewife.

[Alan]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Tamara]

There. There is a. There is a certain camaraderie amongst us when we're not fighting with each other on the same show. When we get out of the same show, then we kind of, like, do stick by each other when we're the only ones.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I agree.

[Alan]

At this roundtable, too, is where Michael accidentally said, we killed Ian, and then everyone jumps on him, but it still doesn't seem to get him in the crosshairs of everyone else.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And Porsche, I don't know why.

[Tamara]

I don't know how he got away with that round table. I don't know how Donna got out of that round table. I don't know how Michael got out of that round table.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I think Michael, like, I think what he was thinking, thinking is like we as a group, like as a. As a show, got rid of.

[Tamara]

Yeah, of course that's what he meant by it. But, you know, right now they're getting stuck on words because what else is there to stick to, right?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I agree.

[Alan]

This Murder in Plain Sight, I think, is one of the funnest that they've done for all seasons, at least. I enjoyed it the most. I. I was stressed out for them. I liked the way that the Traders played it. You know, they have to retrieve tarot cards from the kitchen, burn one in breakfast room. Like, so many things need to happen. And I just love Rob and Lisa getting together and pretending to play chess to really actually figure out who to murder. I thought that was really cool.

[Tamara]

But how about Rob Cestorino saying, I feel like there's a Murder in Plain Sight tonight?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know that. Well, he was, it was smart to get rid of him.

[Tamara]

He was on smart point. He is smart. He's like murder in Plain sight tonight. I was impressed with that. Very impressed. Because he knew the game. That's a guy that knows the game.

[Alan]

I'll tell you what, you know who's the most happy that that happened was Candace, because he clocked that she started the conga line. He knew that about her. That was some evidence. But she wasn't involved in the conversation between Rob and Lisa.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She was scared.

[Alan]

So if they hadn't picked her or if they hadn't picked him to do the Murder in Plain Sight, there's a very good chance that Kansas would have been thrown under the bus at the next roundtable. Like, it worked out so perfectly. I feel like for the Traders, yes, it did.

[Jill Interestein]

Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Tamara]

The Irish traveler said when I was 6, 16.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You're going to have a terrible time with men.

[Jill Interestein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Tamara]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different ways, rooms on

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

different houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Interestein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Amanda Knox]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief.

[Alan]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

[Amanda Knox]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Amanda Knox]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Alan]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Jill Interestein]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Alan]

It'll cause so much harm at every

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

single level of the British establishment of this is wrong.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.

[Alan]

This is Special Agent Riegel, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government is onto him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life. And that's a unicorn.

[Alan]

No one had ever seen anything like that.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It was unbelievable.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime.

[Alan]

He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Tamara]

I'm like, lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Alan]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Did you notice that Dorinda wasn't talking much?

[Tamara]

I did notice that she didn't have much. She didn't want to get in trouble.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She would get in trouble.

[Tamara]

She thought she was going home.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. When she does that, could you imagine? Her first mission was out on the water. She probably had ptsd. She's like, oh, here we go again.

[Tamara]

Not a good. Yeah, not a good place for me. But I think that this is going to be a good season for Dorinda. She really needed it cathartically to get through.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, her first breakfast. She's got, like a standing ovate. Everyone's clapping like, you made it. She's almost in tears. It's like, oh, my gosh.

[Alan]

It's like she won an Oscar or something.

[Tamara]

That kind of stuff makes her happy. She took getting sent home very bad last time.

[Alan]

Yeah, I get it.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, no one wants to leave the first day.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

It takes so much there, dragging your five suitcases with you across the world.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, No, I know. I get it.

[Tamara]

I have a feeling. I'm making a prediction. And listen to me.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Tamara]

I have a feeling. I hope I'm right, because I'll enjoy watching this Caroline Stanberry and her get into it.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Oh.

[Tamara]

What do you think, Tamara?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I've never seen that side of Carolyn. Maybe direct.

[Tamara]

I think Carolyn can push a button.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Do you know something we don't know?

[Tamara]

No, no. But I, I, I've been around Carolyn, and I think she could push a button, like, in a different way than we do. In a very British way. In a, In a very. Like, I'm gonna just poke the bear and.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, and it's gonna piss off.

[Tamara]

Yeah. Because. Because she. I think that Carolyn can talk like that, but she has never been in the company of talking to someone like that like that. That gets triggered.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, let's hope it'll be very entertaining. I was, like, in New York.

[Tamara]

New Jersey.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah. I was halfway expecting Sergio to pull up on a down in the middle of the lake. Don't do that with no shirt on.

[Tamara]

Caroline, I'm here.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, God.

[Tamara]

Oh, God, they kiss a lot for me.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, my God. That's funny.

[Alan]

All right, so Rob C. Was the guy who was murdered in plain sight. The group gathers at. At the round table.

[Tamara]

So funny. Did he. I guess he knew his fate like it was.

[Nancy Glass]

He had.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, he made his fate. I think he made his fate.

[Tamara]

I mean, he had a gut feeling. I'm gonna call him and ask him what my future is right now, but

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

it's pretty crazy that he had no idea. And he's with Candace and he's like, I feel like they're murdering somebody in plain sight. And then Candace, like, row, row. And it was him. It was.

[Tamara]

That's crazy. He had a. He had a. Like a little insight on that. I'm sorry.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I probably better that he is gone for the traders. Good move for the traders because he's figuring things out pretty quickly.

[Tamara]

Yeah.

[Alan]

I will say the traders are getting out really good game players. Like, they're doing a good job of getting out. Really, really smart, strong players.

[Tamara]

They're making good choices instead of murdering housewives who don't know how to play the game. Like. Like, instead of getting rid of the two smartest guys, let's get rid of the housewives that really don't know how to play. Like, that was on my season.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

They spent all their murders on housewives.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

How soon on any other episodes are in other seasons have they banished a traitor so soon?

[Tamara]

Don't know.

[Alan]

No, this is definitely the fastest they've gotten a trader out, I feel like.

[Tamara]

Yeah. Because it was a very smart crowd. It was a witty crowd. They were smart. And let's face it, I mean, it was hard. It wasn't that.

[Alan]

Hold on. We're putting the cart before the horse? We haven't gotten to that. We've gotten that banishment.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We haven't gotten there yet.

[Alan]

We're talking about Rob C. Getting murdered. And then Alan throws another. Every episode there's another, like, crazy, weird wrench thrown in the gears.

[Tamara]

So entertaining.

[Alan]

And this is that the players will be going to the roundtable before the mission. And this, I think, is such a fun twist.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It is.

[Tamara]

I like how they did it. So we're off to a really good start.

[Alan]

My question for you guys is this as, like, this is maybe a little insider baseball, but is there a world in which the weather was very bad that day and they had to move the mission to a different time so that they decided just to do a roundtable before?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Tamara]

I don't think so.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, I don't think so. I. I feel like we had to do something. I forgot what it was.

[Tamara]

The weather is bad every day when we were there.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, it wasn't bad for us every day. I mean, we had some rainy days, but it was never, like, horrible.

[Tamara]

Well, it was when we were there every day. Freezing, raining, cold.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, this mission was outside in the woods.

[Nancy Glass]

Right.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So if it was like that, that would not be a fun mission. Yeah, yeah. Listen, it's a good being tied to a tree. Oh, my God.

[Alan]

If there's electricity in the air, you can't film outside. So I. That's my thought, is that maybe that's what was happening. But regardless, I thought it was a fun thing. Fun little twist. Okay, so the players, they disperse through the castle. Tiffany and Michael go into the secret hidden room behind the book bookshelf to talk. I feel like that just. They're. I don't think they're traitors, but I feel like they're doing traitorous stuff.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

How did Tiffany know how to open that bookcase?

[Alan]

I feel like just being a fan of the show. No, like, is it.

[Tamara]

It's easy. Well, any bookcase has a book that you pull.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, Michael can figure it out. She's like, no, the blue one. I'm like, they're all blue.

[Alan]

They're all blue.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

They're all blue. And he's like, pulling. She's like, no, she goes up there, pulls it out like new. I mean, there's a ton of books up there. I'm like, I guess I don't really pay that much attention.

[Tamara]

Well, I had one of those in a house. I had one time.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

So, Dolores, there was 700 books there. So how do you know which book to pull?

[Tamara]

Maybe she was playing with it before, figured it out.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And she's like, can you close it, too? I don't know that I want to team up with Michael Rapaport. But she's convinced. Tiffany's convinced that he's a traitor, right?

[Tamara]

Yeah, she's convinced that he is a traitor. So you do team up with the traitors.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, but it might backfire in her face because it is very funny to

[Alan]

hear her be like, hey, okay, you need to chill out.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I know.

[Alan]

You gotta bring it down.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Can we talk about the conga line? No, you don't like conga line.

[Alan]

That was a while ago. But, yeah, let's talk about the conga line.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But the conga line was it to me. Do you think that that was too obvious? Because I've seen on social media where people are like, oh, that was stupid.

[Tamara]

So stupid. Really?

[Alan]

I think it was pretty obvious, But I think there's a world in which she had been talking about wanting to do a conga line. Like, on set, you know, sitting around being like, we should do a con like, in, like, previous days.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

I wonder if, like, doing it didn't seem that weird. Because if it was just like, let's do a conga line. That'd be like, okay. That's suspicious. But if you. You've been talking about it for a while, I would. Would think it was less suspicious.

[Tamara]

She should have got up and sang. I would have thought more of her for that one.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Really?

[Tamara]

She's got a great voice.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

A lot of people thought it was dumb, but I'm like, I don't know.

[Tamara]

No, not my thing.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It worked.

[Alan]

It definitely worked.

[Tamara]

I did like the chess game, though. That was a good. See, that's the kind of distraction I liked.

[Alan]

But people were watching them being like, what are you guys doing? You know, I. I thought that they might get into some trouble. The person who gets the most trouble, I feel like in. In episode three, is Donna is speculating that Donna's a traitor. Donna sits down, tells the group, hey, guys, I'm a. I'm fans of you guys. I don't talk. You know, I'm not.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought she was good at that moment. Don't you?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought that, like, she was like, okay, they're on to me. I've got to make. You know. And that was a good thing to say. I'm fans of all you. Would she call them celebrities?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

Ah, she was so cute. I could have never had the heart to throw for her.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, I know.

[Alan]

Nope.

[Tamara]

I would have vouched for her. I would have stuck up for her. I would have been in her little group because nobody really was there for her. Shame on them.

[Alan]

It takes a certain type of person to be on tv, and it's not for everyone.

[Tamara]

She raised, like, she. She raised football stars. She's not a person, but she said in the beginning, listen, it was exciting for her to be there. Her son put her up for it, and she's like, listen, my kids are grown, and now they're starting to have their own families. I just want to do a little something. Plus, she liked reality tv. I think she's such a sweetheart. I wish she won.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I wish she would have lasted a little bit longer.

[Tamara]

Me too.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I really do.

[Tamara]

But I. Don't worry, Don. If I was there, I would have had your back.

[Alan]

You're just saying that because you're scared of swifties.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You are.

[Tamara]

No, actually, you don't care. I don't care.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I thought that this mission was pretty amazing. I thought it was cool. Just the fact that they. I mean, the mission was. It was pretty simple. This is where they had to be to stack up the skulls, right?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And then there was a lot of them that just couldn't do it. They couldn't stack them up. They Couldn't balance them. And then you have Johnny out there. That's still out there. They're done, the game is over. He's still trying to find the skulls.

[Tamara]

Some people don't know when to give up. Yeah, you got to save your energy.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And then they tie him to a tree and I'm like, how long have they been tied to this tree? Before they got to, you know, beg to not be murdered.

[Tamara]

This is the thing. So when Wells, Remember when they were all in the cages when we were walking through the woods?

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

They were up there a long time and it was cold. They were suspended from a tree in the middle of the night, like they said. They got in there like 3 o' clock in the morning and it was so bad. Like they were freezing cold. And then they weren't able to get down until we put all the coins in the, in the little thing.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

Remember? So listen, you gotta really toughen up when you're at these missions.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

They.

[Tamara]

They look fun. They're not that easy, especially with the weather conditions because I don't like being cold or wet.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, cold and wet is the worst.

[Tamara]

And that's the whole time in Scotland. I mean, we were in the woods. I'd. Our pants were like wet all the way up to our, our thighs.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, thank you.

[Alan]

We kind of jumped past a, like a big thing. I feel like so well, Donna getting banished and like, of them being right and the traitors loving it because they didn't know. But they now are.

[Tamara]

Now it's just them. Right.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

I.

[Alan]

So I want to know, like, because when I was watching the show, I'm thinking it's.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

I.

[Alan]

It's definitely Donna. She's definitely the secret. I.

[Tamara]

You knew it?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You knew for sure?

[Alan]

Definitely. I was like, there's no way. It's.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She was on my short list, but I wasn't positive.

[Tamara]

Why would you say no way Rapaport?

[Alan]

Because I think he's. If he was a traitor and being that loud, it would be way too obvious.

[Tamara]

He.

[Alan]

He's just being himself and annoying and boisterous and like grading himself.

[Tamara]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alan]

And I think if he did that and was, but was also a traitor, I, I think that's, that's too much of a risk. But like being very, very quiet, not saying anything. And then also she might be the biggest star there because of her sons and her future daughter in law. So it made sense to be like, let's make her the secret trader. That's where my mind was going.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

But I did like her exit. I thought it was very, very good.

[Tamara]

It was accounts like yours, Wells.

[Alan]

Listen, if you're gonna be on TV for only two episodes, make it work.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Wait, what did she say? I just remember her going, you gotta trade her. And she's like, announce it. You gotta trade her.

[Tamara]

Oh, how cute.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

And the way she said it at first, I'm like, wait, what? Like it didn't sink in.

[Alan]

She said, I got. I'm gonna get out of here. And then turns away and then comes back and is like, you gotta trade. I was like, oh, that's such a good exit. It's like. And it's such a mom thing of, like, being excited for everyone, even though you're like, good job, guys.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You did it.

[Tamara]

I could picture her being that mom.

[Alan]

I hope, I hope that she gets to come back on the show.

[Tamara]

Yeah, we. We saw. She left too soon.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Did you see the big, big party they had for them at the abbey last night?

[Tamara]

No, I didn't.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, Alan was there. Cast members were there.

[Tamara]

We didn't have a big party. We had a party in Alan's bar. Like sardines. Very nice that he let us have the party there, but we didn't do a big thing.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, they had a big viewing party. Oh, it's all over social media.

[Alan]

I wasn't invited to any of those, but that's fine. No big deal.

[Tamara]

You. You were invited to the one when we were on. You weren't there. Well, there was no invitation needed. I think it was open door policy, to be honest.

[Alan]

Yeah, it's fine. No big deal. So Alan tells. Okay, so the. The. The mission ends. The traitors gather to discuss who they're going to murder. Who do you think that they're going to take down?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I don't know. I'm scared. So I'm thinking that they could possibly do Stanberry because it's going to make a statement that it's not Housewives in the turret.

[Tamara]

I say stanberry.

[Alan]

I agree with that.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I mean, it would be a statement to make.

[Alan]

I want to ask you guys, you know, at the beginning of this, where three episodes in, who do you think is going to win this? Not. Not exact names, but do you think that it will be Faithfuls or Traders?

[Tamara]

Faithfuls.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Too soon to tell.

[Alan]

For me, this is the first season that I've seen where I can see the traders winning.

[Tamara]

Yeah, I don't know. I think it's really hard for a trader to win.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It turns so quick on this show. So you just don't know.

[Tamara]

Well, right now, they've been the quickest to get out a trader within the first three episodes. That's number one. Housewives aren't gamers, and two of them are traders. So you have to think about that for a second.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, let me ask you a question. I don't, I'm not a gamer. I don't watch these shows. Like, is there like a big gamer on this season? Because, like Boston Rob and then like CT and Banana, like they're big kind of, you know, gamers. Is there.

[Alan]

Rob was on Survivor, and I think, I'm pretty sure he won Survivor. And then Yam Yam was on Survivor, Tiffany was on Big Brother. So, yeah, there are some, some good games.

[Tamara]

There's some heavy hitters and Yemen is really funny. So I'm gonna say that because, because the, the traders are not real gamers. You really need a kind of a skill that they're going to get caught. They're going to get caught eventually down the road by some gamers. So unless they get these really good gamers, they got to get them out. They can. Yeah, they're going to get caught.

[Alan]

Do you think that these faithfuls will ever suspect that Rob is a traitor? He's so quiet, nonchalant and chill that, like, I would be way off my radar.

[Tamara]

No, I don't think so.

[Alan]

Well, and also, you know, you say, you know, Lisa's a housewife and, you know, I don't. But she's also a fantastic actor. And to be a trader, you need to be a good. Like, I think that she is primed to be one of the better traders that we've had in a very long time. I, I very, I'm impressed. I guess what I'm trying to say with the, with the Traders thus far.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, I was a little bit afraid at first because after she got selected as a traitor, she, you could tell she had some nervous energy when they were all talking. She was talking too much and she was. I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no, she's gonna lose.

[Tamara]

Can't be easy.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, I couldn't.

[Tamara]

People are looking at you if you're too quiet. People are looking at you if you talk too much. It's just you. There's no rhyme or reason yet. It's too soon. There's no patterns yet. Too soon.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yep.

[Alan]

Well, regardless, I'm really excited that season four is finally here. We got the first three episodes. It's on Peacock, and you can go watch it there. We've got some more episodes coming up next week. What are we what are we looking forward to? Who are we most excited to see on our TV screens for the next seven, eight episodes?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Lisa Rena.

[Tamara]

I'm entertained by Michael Rapaport. I am.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

You know, he's going to get into a fight with someone.

[Tamara]

Like, yeah, that's what I want to see.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Wait, guys, wait. We didn't talk about. What was he saying? If you're a traitor and you know it, clap your hands if you're watching your hands. I was like, oh, my God. And he's like, I am the best looking faithful here. I'm like, oh, my God. Listen to him.

[Tamara]

So I want to see him get in a fight with someone. I want to see two housewives go up against each other and then I'll watch the. The strategy of the game.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

She's like, I want some blood.

[Tamara]

I'm in it for pure entertainment here.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yeah, obviously.

[Alan]

I just, I want to see more Yam Yam and Michael Rappaport fighting.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That is, you know, it. You know it's gonna get bad.

[Tamara]

You know who, who looks so cute and nice? Ron Funches.

[Alan]

Oh, my God. He's a lovely person. I. I have interviewed him multiple times and you have.

[Tamara]

Tell him I love him.

[Alan]

He's so sweet and he's hilarious.

[Tamara]

I think he's so nice.

[Alan]

I'm nervous for him because he did stick his neck out.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Who's Eric? He's a singer. I've never heard of him.

[Alan]

Eric Dam. I. I'm not familiar with him either.

[Tamara]

But what do we know about him?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

No, I don't know anything about him. But he's so sweet.

[Tamara]

He's so sweet. Why was he talking with a British accent when he first got there?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

He was. Yeah. I didn't catch that.

[Tamara]

Yeah, he was good. And then. What do you think of Maura?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Stunning.

[Tamara]

So pretty, right?

[Alan]

I know her. I know her personally because she. When my wife. Of course you did.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Whoa.

[Alan]

I mean, what are you trying to say? Because, you know, a lot of people know pretty people.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Yes.

[Alan]

I hang out with you guys.

[Tamara]

Nobody's prettier than Sarah. I love when she dances with the dogs.

[Alan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara]

Oh, well.

[Alan]

And that's how I met her. Because Sarah was hosting Love island and more works on Love Island. She was doing like the after show or something like that. And I remember, I remember. Yes. I think they have some like, like social after show that she was doing. Anyways, she was lovely and I do think that she is going to be very good at this game because I think that she'll fly under the radar. She can play the. The, like, I don't know what's going on card. But I think that she actually is kind of.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Well, she's got that accent. Is she from Ireland? She sounds like. She sounds like Paul. Sounds like.

[Tamara]

She said, I tink.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I tink. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Tamara]

I was gonna call Paul and ask him.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

That's Paul's sister.

[Tamara]

I know. For real. And then I went on her Instagram because I'm like, she's got an Irish accent. That sounds. And I know a lot of Irish girls named Maura. And then I looked, and she has the Scottish flag. So unless that's just for traders, that first.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

The first outfit. Let's talk about the fashion. The first outfit with the kimora came out with the green. It was like. I don't know if it was latex. What it was. I'm like, where do you even get clothes?

[Tamara]

Like, she's here. Instagram. She's got 4 million followers.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, those Love island people have a ton of followers.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

We had.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

We had Ekinsu from Love island, and she had, like, I don't know, 3 million followers. I'm like, I didn't know who she was until I got to know her.

[Tamara]

She got killed in the. She drank the chalice.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Yeah. I looked up Eric. The reason, I guess maybe the you guys aren't familiar with him is because you're not. Not listening to a lot of K Pop.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

But I was gonna say, is it K Pop?

[Alan]

He was big in the K Pop scene. Yeah.

[Tamara]

Okay, Eric. He's cute.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Okay.

[Alan]

If you could choose one person to make it to the end from this initial cast. Who you guys choosing?

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Oh, my gosh. One person to make it to the end.

[Tamara]

I'm just gonna pick somebody cute.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Colton.

[Tamara]

I say Colton, too.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

I want him to make it to the end.

[Alan]

I'm going with Dorinda.

[Tamara]

Oh, she'll be happy to hear that.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

Or Dorinda. I'm going with Dorinda, too.

[Narrator (6th Bureau Podcast)]

Yeah, there you go.

[Alan]

I'm just excited for this show. It's going to be really, really fun to. To watch along. I think either our next episode will be either January 15th or January 16th, and we'll be recapping episodes four and five. If you guys aren't following us on social media, please do at By Order of the Faithfuls. DM us there. Any questions? You've got things that you saw in the most recent season that you want us to talk about, and we'd love to answer those on the show as well. Ladies, I'm so happy.

[Female Co-host (By Order of the Faithfuls)]

It's so nice to be back together.

[Alan]

We're back. We're back. All right, all you traders and faithfuls, make sure to tune in next week for a recap of episodes four and five. Ladies, have a wonderful day. It's always good to hang with you. And I'm so glad we're back for season four.

[Tamara]

Treacherous Day Day. Bye. Bye.