By Order of the Faithfuls: The RHOC is O-U-T! (S2 E5 & 6)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod – By Order of the Faithfuls: The RHOC is O-U-T! (S2 E5 & 6)

Original Airdate: October 17, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Guest: "Burgie Burgalicious"
Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Two Ts In A Pod dives deep into episodes 5 and 6 of "By Order of the Faithfuls"—the reality competition show mixing strategy, secrecy, and drama. Special guest Burgie ("Burgalicious") joins the pod to discuss key moments and behind-the-scenes realities of filming, with a witty and candid rehash of game strategy, shocking exits, and juicy cast dynamics. The episode is particularly notable as Tamra Judge—the co-host—was "murdered" this week on the show, leading to a reflective, amusing, and revealing conversation about her experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming Special Guest: Burgie Burgalicious

[02:51] – [03:38]

• Burgie is lauded for bringing positive energy and a perpetual smile.
• The hosts joke that Burgie “is like the kind of guy you want your daughter to marry.”
• Despite being underestimated on the show, Burgie showed strategic prowess during a pivotal challenge.

2. Tamra’s On-Screen "Murder": The Emotional and Physical Toll

[04:18] – [07:39]

• Tamra recounts being "murdered" on the show and reveals she did not see it coming.
• The experience was timely, as she had been very ill: “By the time I got home, I was so sick, and my husband's like, you need to go to the hospital…They’re like, we're admitting you. You have an intestinal blockage.”
• Tamra reflects on the bittersweet relief of going home due to her health: “It was good. It was…Because I would have probably died there.” (07:39)

3. Behind the Scenes: Production Realities of the Show

[07:50] – [14:40]

• The timeline shown on TV is "illusion": “You leave the Round Table, you go to bed… but really you get into a car and you drive back to a different...hotel, 45 minutes away.” (08:04)
• Contestants must mimic continuity in outfits for B-roll; Tamra shares the chaos of being shuttled for reshoots and press.
• After being eliminated, cast are transferred to a nicer hotel, only to soon be flown home.
• Security protocols are strict: eliminated contestants are hooded and masked to preserve secrecy.

Quote: “The driver pulls over to the side of the road. He gives you a mask and a black blanket to put over your head... it's so crazy all the things they do.” —Burgie, [10:59]

4. The Inability to Explore Scotland

[13:03] – [13:46]

• Host shares frustration at not being able to sightsee due to production insurance/reporting limitations even though it had been "part of the deal."

5. Recap of the Latest Episodes: Strategic Moves and Drama

[17:58] – [22:36]

A. Phaedra and Parvati’s Rift

• The episode begins with Phaedra angry at Parvati, who quickly tries to apologize, “groveled,” but no grudge is easily forgotten in Housewives world.

B. Why Tamra Was Targeted

• Burgie speculates that removing a Housewife cast member (Tamra) was a strategic move to dissolve the “Housewives stick together” stereotype.

Quote: “I think she had to get rid of a housewife to get rid of that stigma that…housewives stick together. It was Phaedra saving her ass is what it was.” —Burgie, [18:50]

C. Banishing Janelle — Dan's Red Flags

• The group finds Dan suspicious for never giving up names, but he manages to flip suspicion onto Janelle, convincing the group to banish her.

D. Peter’s Risky Trap

• Peter sets a trap and secures a shield for Burgie, narrowly escaping Dan’s murder attempt. Peter's move is praised as both risky and brilliant.

Quote: “Peter…sets his trap, which—yeah, really, really smart, but also, like, really, really risky.” —Host, [20:39]

• Peter and Parvati’s nervous reactions at the round table are scrutinized by the hosts, with special mention to Dan's visible distress:

Quote: “Well, you know, it was funny when Dan's Adam's apple, when he was swallowing really hard and it kept going up and down.” —Co-host, [26:29]

6. Dan’s Downfall and Trader-on-Trader Drama

[26:42] – [29:41]

• Dan tries to save himself by outing Phaedra, but this backfires:

Quote: "Why go after Faith, the attorney, the housewife attorney, Queen of… doing this for a living, living through 10 lives of this, and you go after her? That's where he screwed up." —Co-host, [27:11]

• The episode marks the first Trader-on-Trader betrayal:

Quote: “No one figures it out before they start to turn on each other easier… that was the first kind of idea of Trader on Trader.” —Co-host, [28:58]

7. Recruiting Peter as a Trader: Would It Have Changed Everything?

[29:41] – [31:57]

• The group discusses the failed attempt to recruit Peter as a Trader. Hosts agree that if Peter had said yes, the outcome could have been drastically different.
• On whether Peter could use proof of his loyalty: “Did he have the letter? Like, I would keep that letter and be like, here, look. Yeah, just to prove I'm a faithful.” —Burgie, [30:39]
• It’s risky to announce refusal to become a Trader, as nobody would believe you based on prior seasons.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On production strictness:
  “The driver pulls over to the side of the road. He gives you a mask and a black blanket to put over your head... it's so crazy all the things they do.” —Burgie, [10:59]

• On Tamra’s exit:
  “It was bittersweet because I had been so sick. I missed home… I would have probably died there.” —Tamra, [07:39]

• On show strategy:
  “It was Phaedra saving her ass is what it was.” —Burgie, [18:58]

• On Trader-on-Trader drama:
  “No one figures it out before they start to turn on each other easier…” —Co-host, [28:58]

• On Dan’s strategic error:
  “He pulled it on the wrong person.... Why go after Faith, the attorney, the housewife attorney, Queen of… doing this for a living... that's where he screwed up.” —Co-host, [27:11]

• On Dan choking under pressure:
  “Dan's Adam's apple, when he was swallowing really hard and it kept going up and down.” —Co-host, [26:29]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Welcoming Burgie & Character Impressions: [02:51]
• Tamra’s Exit and Health Reveal: [04:18] – [07:39]
• Production Secrets and Contestant Logistics: [07:50] – [14:40]
• Scotland Sightseeing Frustrations: [13:03] – [13:46]
• Phaedra-Parvati Confrontation: [17:58]
• Housewife Targeting & Cast Dynamics: [18:41] – [19:19]
• Banishment of Janelle: [19:54]
• Peter’s Shield Trap & Dan’s Failed Murder: [20:39] – [21:03], [25:24]
• Dan Outing Phaedra at the Round Table: [26:42]
• Trader-on-Trader Turn: [28:58] – [29:41]
• Peter Refusing Trader Recruitment: [29:41]
• Wrap-up and Looking Ahead: [31:57] – [32:01]

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Tone & Atmosphere

The discussion is upbeat and teasing, but candid about the struggles and emotions of reality TV. Teddi, Tamra, and Burgie keep the energy high with playful jabs, reality-show inside baseball, and laugh-out-loud asides, even while touching on the show’s more dramatic or difficult moments.

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Summary Takeaways

• This episode grants a rarely seen, detailed look behind the reality-TV curtain—particularly the emotional and logistical aftermath of being “murdered” or banished on By Order of the Faithfuls.
• Strategic gameplay, particularly surrounding shields, alliances, and Trader betrayals, forms the dramatic heart of these episodes.
• Tamra’s candid revelation about her health adds a surprisingly poignant touch.
• The hosts provide sharp yet affectionate critiques of both castmates’ choices and production quirks, all while keeping the spirit light and fun for fans of both the show and the Housewives universe.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode distills the drama, comedy, and strategy of competitive reality TV—delivering both gossip and insight that go far beyond the weekly broadcast.

Transcript

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[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

To all you faithfuls and traders, it's time for another episode of By Order of the Faithful.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I'm Wells and I'm alongside Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Today's going to be a really fun episode because we are having our first guest and, and star from the show on in Bergie Burgalicious. And I gotta be honest with you, like, watching him on my tv, it always, like, brings a smile to my face. Like, I, I enjoy seeing him on my tv.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Good energy. He's so sweet, right?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yes. He's like the kind of guy you want your daughter to marry.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yes. And. And when he talks, he smiles. While he's talking, he's like, like he's got this perpetual smile and we're not used to that, Tamara. So we're like.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

No, no. He was very quiet most of the time until we did the, the graveyard with the lights and then he really sparked up.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, he came out of his shell for sure. I'm. I think the main thing that I want to know when he comes on is the quiet ones are the ones you got to watch out for. I have found this to be true on a lot of reality TV shows that I've made. He so very obviously was a faithful. Like, it seemed like that was. No one was going to make that guy a traitor. But after watching him, especially at that, the, the light challenge where he like figured out the, the puzzle and then he was just like bird dogging on Dan, I do think that there's a world in which he'd be a really good trader. And I wonder if he would ever, like, entertain that idea on a future season.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I think he would make an amazing trader.

[Sports Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Because he's so smart and he's underestimated.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, I agree. I mean, this is a very sad episode and we need to eulogize her. I think, yes, we all should have worn all black. This was the episode that our, our dear host of the show, Tamara Judge, was, was murdered in the middle of the night. And I just. We got to start with what happened. Did you come in when it happened? Did you know it was going to be written on there? Tell us everything.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

What does it feel like? How's that hit in your stomach?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Okay. So first of all, I did not see it coming. I was laying low under the radar, had never had a finger pointed at me, never had my name written down. I had been sick. I had just started to feel better. I was excited to start the game. And that next morning, we go into the room, and it's the room that they hold you before. You know, their separate rooms before you go into breakfast. Very excited about my outfit. Even go in this room, and I'm with him.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Who were you with?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I think Trishell was with me, baby ct. But it was the room that I was in when Johnny Bananas got murdered. So they don't tell you right there, you're getting murdered. But they say, single you out. Okay, Tamara, let's go. And I turned around and I looked at everybody. I go, I'm getting murdered. You know, I knew. I just knew it's the room that's closest. You don't have to walk through the courtyard. You go in that room where there's a chair and the letters on the chair. And sure enough. And it was bittersweet because I had been so sick. I missed home. Although I was feeling better, I ended up in the hospital when I got home with very serious condition with tubes down my nose. Yeah. The medication that they put me on was extremely strong, and I have intestinal issues, and I've had intestinal surgery before, so I have a lot of scar tissue in my intestines. So I have to be very careful taking medication or anything like that. So the medication they gave me put inflammation in my intestines. And the last few days, I was getting these pains in between my rib cage. And I'm like, God, what? Like, I'm not a person that gets heartburn or anything like that. So I'm like, I don't know what this is. They kept giving me medication, like acid medication, whatever. By the time I got home, I was so sick, and my husband's like, you need to go to the hospital. I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm good. Second day, he's like, I'm taking you to the hospital. I get there and they're like, we're admitting you. You have an intestinal blockage.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Oh, my God. That's very dangerous.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah. And so they put the tube down my nose into my intestines, and we're sucking everything out. And I was there for, I can't remember, three or four days, and then I went home. But so it was good. It was. Because I would have probably died there.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. It was time to come home.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. I have questions that are, like, logistical ones, because I wasn't murdered. I was banished. So I never got to experience this thing.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Oh, okay.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

You know, when you watch the show, the kind of, like, timeline and implication is Is that you leave, you leave the Round Table, you go to bed, but really you get into a car and you drive back to a different.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Hotel, 45 minutes away.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

But, but, but the timeline is supposed to be that, like, right before you go to bed, you walk into this room where you find this letter. But what's really happening is everyone goes back to breakfast the next day. They single you out and they pretend like it's nighttime, but really it's the next day.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

So my question is, did they ask you to bring a set of clothes that you were wearing the day before? So continuity wise, it made sense.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

No.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

And I actually have not noticed that. I thought when I watch Happens that morning.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Oh, really?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

That's how I. When I see it, because I'm in a totally different outfit.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

So I never thought of it that way. But no, what they, what I did have to do. So what happens? You go in there, you read the letter, then they say, okay, like, pack up, let's go. You're going back to the hotel. We're going to get you the hotel, we're going to check you out of the hotel. And then at 5 o'. Clock, now this is early in the morning that you get murdered. Five o', clock, we're going to drive you back to the castle. And mind you, it's 45 minutes to an hour each way. So I drove there, drove back, sat in my hotel room. I actually talked them into letting me stay in the hotel. I go, just let me stay. I'm not going to leave the hotel. Just let me stay. And I don't even know why they do that.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Why were they bringing you back?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

They wanted to bring me back to do B roll. Okay, so listen to this. I had to go back, put on my original outfit from day one. When you have to wear for three days anyways, right?

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yep, I know it put it back on.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

And then they had me bring pajamas and they did just some B roll of me in the castle. And then, you know, I had to be very careful because they had to be out on a mission when I was doing this, so nobody saw me. And then, then I had to do some stuff in the bedroom in pajamas and it was just crazy. And then after that you get in a car and you go do press.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

What?

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

They ask you who you think the traders are. Right. And then you say who you think it is and then they reveal it to you.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah, it's through. I think it's like they air it on peacock or something. I can't remember, because I never watched the. The interviews. So you. They take you and it's the best day of your life after you get murdered. Because it's at a hotel, a very old hotel. And you. You get to drink. Yeah, they serve you drinks right there. There's a bar there, you know, because first.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

So you feel free.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

You feel free for so long. You're back and forth. Hotel Castle. Hotel Castle. And after that, you're like, oh, my God. A change of scenery. Thank God.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Nice shower.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

And then what people don't know too, is like after each night at the Castle drive home. They. The driver pulls over to the side of the road. He gives you a mask and a black blanket to put over your head. You drive.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah, you drive five more minutes, and they cover you as you go into the hotel. I mean, it's so crazy. All the things they do.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

They really have all. Everything. They dot their eyes and cross their T's. On this show, production is no joke.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I still don't understand why after you get murdered or did they do this when you got banished, they moved you out of that hotel into a different one.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, into the nice one by the golf course.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Oh, it's nice. Great.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

But the thing is, is like the hotel that we stay in is in the parking lot of the airport. Of the airport.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. That hotel sucked it well.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Did.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I would rather have them do it at the other way. Put us in the nice hotel. And then the day that we get murdered, put us in the hotel.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, right by the airport.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

We just walk our happy little asses. Sorry, the last is over. And get on the plane.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I agree with that.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Wait, so. So, camera. How long from the time you're murdered do you get on the plane?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Well, mine was pretty. Mine was pretty quick. So luckily there was a flight the next morning really early, so I literally 24 hours. However, Marcus was still there when I was there.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Stop.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah. So I don't know. I guess it depends. On what the flight. Because I got to get that flight that day. And if there's no flights available, then you're screwed. You have to stay an extra couple days, which wouldn't have been bad had I not been sick and I could have explored Scotland a little bit.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

No, you can't. And I can tell. I can tell you why. Because I tried to do it and they let me.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, why you are.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

When I was. When they were negotiating me to come do the show because I was. Didn't think I was going to be able to do it because My other show, usually films then. And they were like, well, if it doesn't, we'd love you to come. And I said, okay, that's great. But no matter what happens, I would like to go afterwards, rent a car and drive around Scotland and play golf and see the sights. And I've been in Scotland. And they're like, yeah, sure, just sign the contract. We're fine, whatever. And I'm like, okay. So then when I got banished, they were like, okay, you're flying home tomorrow. And I was like, oh, no, I need to see someone to take me to the airport so I can go rent a car. I'm gonna go drive around and play golf. And they're like, no, you're not allowed to do that. And I was like, it was part of the deal. And they're like, but why?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

What's the reason?

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Responsibility.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Insurance wise. Oh, because we are no longer part of the production. So we. And I was like, you guys really should have told me this beforehand because I was literally in. I was. The flight to Inverness was longer than the time I spent in Inverness.

[Sports Promo Announcer]

Right.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Oh, my God, that is so funny and so true. So when you get banished, it's at night time. When do you go home? Because you have to do press so you're there longer if.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, I did press, like, the entire day. The next day I had B roll. B roll stuff. And then I was out, like, the neck. The day after that, I was gone.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Oh, so you stayed longer than me?

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I feel it would be hard to stay after you're banished or murdered, because it's like, all right, why do I have to do this? I'm done. Why do I have to do this extra work? It's extra work and it's over. So you're like, done. You're like, I'm over this now let me go.

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[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Real quick. I'm so sorry that you were murdered. Doesn't seem right, but maybe, just maybe they'll have you back again and maybe all three of us will go back.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Again at one that nothing more. I would I love.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Or maybe they'll just send us and we can interview people.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, I want to be Kate. I want to come in in the middle of it and be like what's going on? I'm obviously not a traitor. No idea what's going on.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Let's act like we don't want to be there like Kate does and maybe they'll ask us to go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Crazy like a Anyways, let's rip through this episode really quickly before we bring in Birdie. You know, it starts out with Phaedra furious with Parvati. You know, Parvati kind of kind of buckles pretty quickly and apologizes and you know, Phaedra kind of accepts, but, like, I feel like, doesn't trust her at all.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

No. And if flux could kill, Parvati would have been murdered by Phaedra.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, first of all, like, she groveled. She was like, oh, my, how can I make it up to you? I'm so, so, like, groveled. But she, like, should only know that it was only a matter of time before Phaedra got her back for that, because housewives don't let things go.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Now, I think it's funny that the murder was between me and Sandra.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Why Sandra?

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Why you?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I think she had to get rid of a housewife to get rid of that stigma that, you know, those housewives stick together.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

It was Phaedra saving her ass is what it was.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, it makes sense.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

And I don't know how many housewives were left at that point. Me, Shree, Sheree. And that's it, Right?

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, Bravo, mj, It would have been if you wanted to say housewives or Bravo, housewives.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

So it was between me and Sheree. And she's really close.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Of course she's close with Sheree.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah. Yeah. So.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Oh, well, why do you think, production wise, they brought Kate back? Is it because that one guy left kind of in the middle of it and the numbers needed to be.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yes, yes, I think so. I did not hear that, but I. That makes sense.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

But why Kate?

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Because Kate's good tv.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

They found her funny. They like surprises. They like things. They like funny. They like sad. They like it all over the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

And she's over the top, and you never know what's gonna come out of her mouth. And they need those sound bites.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. So she was.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

She was perfect for that at the round table. You know, Kate gets revealed that she's there, and then we kind of get into, like, what's going on. You know, we. Everyone's been getting annoyed that Dan doesn't really contribute anything. He never really has a theory, and everyone's kind of seeing it's a red flag. Janelle adds that every time she asked Dan for a name, he gives her nothing. But then Dan. Dan thinks now Janelle is a traitor, and he's able to convince everyone to banish Janelle, which is shocking to me because I feel like it's so very obvious that it's Dan.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Not a smart move.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Right.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I don't know what he was doing. His whole performance was cringe worthy.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, I agree. And then obviously, this is the episode that Peter, you know, sets his trap, which yeah, really, really smart, but also, like, really, really risky.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

I was just gonna say that. Would you do that?

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I tried to do it on our season, actually. Yeah.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

From watching. Did you, like, echo what he did or was that your own idea that you came up with? At the time, I was kind of.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Echoing what he did.

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[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I was convinced during our season that Robin, Sam, and Bob the drag queen were traitors.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, you were right about one.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. And I was convinced that they were gonna murder me. And so when we did that challenge, I was the one who, like, got Wes down. And I told Wes, I was like, I'm only putting my coins in yours, in your thing, because I need your shield. And after the thing we got, we get him down. Wes told me he was gonna give me the shield. And then I pulled I in the side and I said, I'm. I'm gonna have the shield tonight, but I'm. I'm going to. But I want you to say that you got it.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, it's a win win because you're giving someone else the shield by having them say it. Right. Basically, you really have it.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

And I thought for sure that they were going to try to kill me because I was on to one of them and. And it didn't matter because then I went to the roundtable and that's when they got rid of me. They got rid of me before I was able to enact this plan. So it never made air. But I did get. I was in that little kitchen and.

[Investment Platform Advertiser]

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[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. Anyways.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, it was a good idea.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I tried, you know, it worked.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

But after it worked, don't you think the semis were on him?

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

It's. You know, the game's not real, right. Like, it's not real life. But he. He does play it very holier than thou, which I could see being a turn off to a lot of players.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah.

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[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Dan attempted to murder Bergie but unbeknownst to them, Bergie had the shield because of the trap that that Peter sets. So everyone shows up and you're just watching Dan's reaction and it just seems like oh and I gotta say I love Peter coming in and being like we got him. You know, like we we.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

He was so and Pop Poverty was so nervous too. Both of them. It was funny that Peter was able to really tell by their expressions who was who because it was between CT Poverty and Dan and he's like I knew right away by CT's response. I knew CT by the way he responded. So I think if I'm gonna go back again and I wanna see CT's response and see what it was like again, spend a little more time on it because. Because whatever it was worked.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. Maybe he just came across as, like, authentic and real, whereas everyone else is. Like, what? What you. You told me. I didn't tell anybody.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Well, you know, it was funny when Dan's Adam's apple, when he was swallowing really hard and it kept going up and down.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

The hard swallow.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

It was the hard swallow that got me. Yeah.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

We gotta talk about, you know, Dan's big moment to, like, make a big move and kind of throw Phaedra under the bus during the round table.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Like, that cost him the game.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah. And like. But, like, by show of hands, what do you think? And like, who's the one who did this thing?

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

And it was.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

What do you think? He, like, went to bed that night. It was like, okay, oh, yeah, I got this. I got this plan.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I got this. But he. He pulled it on the wrong person. Yep. I'm not saying poverty couldn't have talked her way out of it, but why go after Faith, the attorney, the housewife attorney, Queen of. Of doing this for a living, living through 10 lives of this, and you go after her. That's where he screwed up. Wrong one to pick.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, but he has to pick a traitor, Right? Because he has to be right. To then prove that he is not, in fact, a traitor. Because he had the choice.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

He had the choice of two.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was the wrong one. Yeah, I agree. And I wonder why he thought it was a smarter play to go. Phaedra instead of poverty. Poverty hand. Thank you.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Maybe he liked poverty better. Yeah, I think he liked. He thought he could work better with poverty moving forward. And he thought. I think he thought long term, if he wound up at the tour, it would be easier to get rid of Phaedra. I mean, not easier, but he would have been better off. He could have handled poverty long term. And trying to get rid of Phaedra while he could. Yeah, he rolled the dice. He lost. That's it.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

He should have just. He was going to get banished no matter what. Like, the writing was on the wall. He shouldn't have tried to take down one of his own. And if I'm. If I'm a faithful, the one person that I don't think is a traitor is Phaedra. And then he does that. And now I'm like, okay, I know exactly who the traitors are. He tried to kill another traitor. And we're back, pretty sure it's also Parvati. Like, now it's all over, which is why Alan shows up in the turret and is like, so you need to fix this.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

He's screwed up.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, well, that. That's the thing now. Nobody figure gives up the Traders more than the trade. No one figures it out before they start to turn on each other easier. You know what I'm saying? Like, when Boston Rob on our show and. And Bob the Drag Queen went at it, that was the first kind of idea of Trader on Trader.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Yeah, yeah. And this was the first time, right, a trader went after a trader on this episode.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, other than poverty, kind of like trying to drop a little hint here and there. But no, no, no, no, no. This was Trader on Trader, and it was so good.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Why do you think they decided to try to recruit the one guy who I think would probably say no in Peter?

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Because he was gaining a lot of traction. People were listening to him. He was smart, had it figured out. He's the one that called. Called the shots on the whole shield thing. Even though it looked like it was just him, his idea, but it was everybody together.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Did he have the option to say yes or no? Yes, he did. Okay.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

And he turns it down. And then. I mean, we're getting ahead of ourselves, but. Yeah, and then he tells everyone what happened. You know, I. You know, hindsight is 20 20. But looking back, if he had accepted it, I think there's a very, very real chance that the Traders win this season. Right. Like, he could have continued, have pretended to be, like, holier than thou, and ran the table with. With poverty to the end.

[Guest (Burgie Burgalicious)]

Did he have the letter? Like, I would keep that letter and be like, here, look. Yeah, just approve. I'm a faithful.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

But it doesn't. It doesn't prove that you are. You aren't, because, like, you're not writing yes or no. You're just. If you. If you. Then you go to the tour, and if you don't, you don't. If you decide no, you don't go. So.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Because look at season one, when. When Christian said, I was asked, but I turned it down.

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[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

And then there were like, yeah, yeah, right, sure. So even saying it, you're taking a chance because season one, he said it, and he was a traitor.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

I don't know. I just don't think that if I was in their shoes, I would have tried to get Peter because I. As if I'm a trader, I want numbers and that's the one person I think that will probably say no and doesn't help help my cause in terms of number or even like a shield for someone else to get banished before I am if I want to get to the end of the game Fields annoy me like I think like CT would have been a good choice for that I think is a gamer and been like yes.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Oh yeah it would have been a.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Great one anyways it was a fun episode even though it started off a tragedy with them getting rid of the best person on the show in tamer Judge yeah I'm very sorry.

[Co-host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Not even worth watching anymore. I know damn call it a day. Who cares.

[Host (By Order of the Faithful)]

Yeah we're done. When we come back on By Order of the Faithfuls, we are going to have a guy who was a lynchpin in the show. He figured out with pilot Pete who the traitors were burglit. So be here. We'll see you there.

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