Calla Lily is Revealed!

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Calla Lily is Revealed!

Release Date: February 5, 2026
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Overview

This episode is a lively and revealing celebration of Tamra Judge’s participation on The Masked Singer as the "Calla Lily." Teddi, who was kept entirely in the dark, interviews Tamra about the secretive process, the emotional experience of performing on stage, her song choices (including one of her dad John Mellencamp’s songs), and what it meant for her family. The duo also analyze the nature of celebrity competition shows, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and laugh about potential future appearances. The tone is candid, supportive, and peppered with inside jokes and playful ribbing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Big Reveal: Masked Singer Secrets

• Tamra’s Secrecy and Trust

  • Tamra shares she told virtually no one about her participation—not even Teddi or her kids.
    • “You were on Masked Singer…and you kept it quiet from everybody.” — Teddi (02:28)
    • “I didn’t even tell my kids.” — Tamra (04:41)

• Contestant Anonymity

  • All audience members sign NDAs, and contestants wear extensive disguises backstage—full black hoodies and beekeeper hats.
  • Quote: “I walked around with a shirt on... a black hoodie that said ‘please don’t talk to me’... you know those beekeeper hats? One of those in black.” — Tamra (03:18)

• Strict Secrecy, Even from Family

  • Tamra’s son Cruz recognized her instantly while watching at home:
    • “Mom, stop it. That’s you. Please tell me you didn’t go home first.” — Cruz, quoted by Tamra (04:48)
    • Teddi: “That gave me chills.” (04:48)

Costume Creation & Symbolism

• The "Calla Lily" Character

  • The producers chose the Calla Lily for Tamra after a personal phone call to learn more about her.
  • Symbolism: Rebirth, which Tamra appreciates given her journey.
    • “What is Calla Lily symbolize?” — Teddi
    • “I think it’s like rebirth... I think that’s why they chose that for me.” — Tamra (05:23)
  • Her headpiece was made unusually lightweight due to her preferences (05:28).

• Clue Package Analysis

  • They break down clues from Tamra’s intro package, debating the meaning behind the diamond/wedding ring and the anchor symbolizing her son Cruz (07:19).

The Performance Experience

• Song Selection and Nerves

  • Tamra is candid about not being a natural singer:
    • “I mean, I'm not a good singer. I know that.” — Tamra (04:02)
  • All singing was 100% live, not pre-recorded or heavily auto-tuned.
    • “Do they auto tune anybody’s voice at all?” — Teddi
    • “No, that... People thought we recorded prior to.” — Tamra (04:11)
    • Tamra’s nerves showed in her “shaking mic.” (04:22)

• Emotional Song Choices

  • Performed “Fight Song” (emotional for her) and for her unmasking, a John Mellencamp song.
    • Tamra admits: “I was crying inside my mask during that. Shaking all the things.” (14:15)
    • “The only person I did tell that I was doing it was my dad.” — Tamra (13:51)

• Her Dad’s Involvement & Advice

  • Even though John Mellencamp no longer owns rights, she informed him due to performing his song.
    • “He did... he’s like, ‘don’t worry about how you sound, but sing out and be proud.’” — Tamra (13:51)
    • “He would have never approved it. Are you kidding me?” — Tamra (13:41) [regarding song rights]

• Interacting with Other Contestants

  • No direct interaction—intense anonymity. Did overhear a fellow contestant "freaking out" but never discovered who it was (06:35).
  • Could tell some were talented singers (“If this is who I’m up against, I’m a goner.” — Tamra, 17:14)

• Performance Difficulties

  • Wearing the heavy (though lighter than average) costume, not seeing well on stage, and having to rely on a teleprompter she couldn’t really read without her glasses (18:36).
  • “The entire time I was on stage, I was shaking so much...” — Tamra (18:09)

Emotional Impact & Reflections

• Being Unmasked

  • The moment was emotional, but the show moved quickly:
    • “The sendoff is immediately once your head is taken off, like a big hook.” — Tamra (15:16)
  • Judges and production were supportive, especially Jenny McCarthy, who reached out personally:
    • “Everyone... goes above and beyond to make sure that you’re comfortable.” — Tamra (14:43)

• Judges' and Public's Guesses

  • Many believed Tamra was Selma Blair or Christina Applegate due to her visible unsteadiness, both associated with health struggles.
    • “A lot of people thought I was Selma Blair...or Christina Applegate.” — Tamra (19:06)
  • Tamra is feeling stronger today than during the show (19:31).

• Would She Do It Again?

  • An enthusiastic YES:
    • “Would you ever do something like this again?” — Teddi
    • “Of course.” — Tamra (19:39)
  • Teddi pokes fun at herself about ever joining: “Would I embarrass myself? 1000%. But I’ve been doing that for the past 18 years, so it’s really nothing new.” (19:53)

The Competition: Is it Fair?

• On Competing Against Pros
  • Teddi and Tamra discuss the fairness when “real singers” compete:
    • “Do you think it’s fair that they do have talented singers go on there?” — Teddi (21:12)
    • Tamra compares it to Dancing with the Stars, and suggests the show’s dynamic has shifted toward more professionals (21:16).
    • Suggests perhaps splitting amateurs and pros into different groups in the future (21:25).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I walked around with a shirt on... a black hoodie that said ‘please don’t talk to me’... you know those beekeeper hats? One of those in black.” — Tamra (03:18)
• “Mom, stop it. That’s you. Please tell me you didn’t go home first.” — Cruz (04:48)
• “I was crying inside my mask during that. Shaking all the things.” — Tamra (14:15)
• “He’s like, ‘don’t worry about how you sound, but sing out and be proud.’” — Tamra, quoting John Mellencamp (13:51)
• “I have the opportunity to go up and sing my dad’s song. I’m gonna do it. I’m so proud of him, and I wanted to give it the best shot that I can.” — Tamra (17:51)
• “The sendoff is immediately once your head is taken off, like a big hook.” — Tamra (15:16)
• “Would you ever do something like this again?” — Teddi
  “Of course.” — Tamra (19:39)
• “Would I embarrass myself? 1000%. But I’ve been doing that for the past 18 years, so it’s really nothing new.” — Teddi (19:53)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:29 — The Masked Singer reveal: Tamra’s silky secrecy.
• 03:18 — Contestant anonymity: NDAs, disguises, and backstage attire.
• 04:41 — Tamra’s kids discover her secret.
• 05:13 — Becoming the Calla Lily: the costume creation and symbolism.
• 07:19 — Dissecting the clue package and its meanings.
• 13:09 — Talking about singing her dad’s song, rights and approval.
• 14:15 — “I was crying inside my mask” – performing “Fight Song.”
• 15:16 — Unmasking & exit protocol on The Masked Singer.
• 18:09 — Handling nerves and the physical toll on stage.
• 19:06 — Judges’ guesses and health-related speculation.
• 19:39 — Would Tamra do it all again?
• 21:12 — Debating fairness and the prevalence of professional singers in competitions.
• 22:01 — The friends joke about each other being on Dancing with the Stars or Masked Singer.

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers a fun, behind-the-scenes look into The Masked Singer through Tamra’s personal experience. The sincerity, laughter, and willingness to share both insecurities and joys make this a relatable and entertaining listen for any Housewives fan or reality TV devotee. Teddi’s curiosity and Tamra’s openness yield genuine, heartfelt moments alongside classic banter—showing why Two Ts In A Pod remains a fan favorite.

Transcript

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[Tamara Judge]

Huge what?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, Teddy, you were on Masked Singer. Oh, you, my friend. And you kept it quiet from everybody.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't even tell anyone. I didn't even tell you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, I know. Now I know I can trust you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You were obviously told you could not tell anybody.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't tell anyone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And so when you were performing, I need to know all the details.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When you were performing, was anybody in the audience that, like, you couldn't invite? I mean, if they put your dad in the audience, that might Be a dead giveaway.

[Tamara Judge]

No, like, when I was actually performing the songs, no one I know in the audience.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do other people have, like, is it just the audiences opened up to the.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, America votes or the audience votes?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So they can't have anybody there supporting them because it would be a dead giveaway.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And everybody that is there has to sign an NDA. And I walked around with a shirt on. Like, I had to be covered at all times. So I wore a black hoodie that said, please don't talk to me with it over my head. And then, you know, those, like, be like beekeeper hats.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

One of those in black. So if I wanted to go anywhere, I had to be completely.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Were you able to talk to any of the other contestants?

[Tamara Judge]

No. You talked to no one?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because I interviewed Todd and Julie Chrisley last week.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank God I beat them. Whew.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. What was the experience like?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, of course, there were parts that were really. I mean, I'm not a good singer. I know that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do they auto tune anybody's voice at all?

[Tamara Judge]

No, that, like, people thought that we recorded prior to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought so. Because you're in that costume, there must be a mic right up by you.

[Tamara Judge]

Hold the mic. And that's where my giveaway was that how nervous I was. You could see my mic shaking.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, when Jenny McCarthy goes, oh, she's really nervous.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I'm like, I think Jenny McCarthy knew the first time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You do?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Cruz knew within seconds.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you didn't tell your kids?

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't even tell my kids. And then we were watching Masked Singer because it's their favorite show. And Cruise goes, mom, stop it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That gave me chills.

[Tamara Judge]

That's you. And then he's like, please tell me you didn't go home first.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're like, no, second.

[Tamara Judge]

No second.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So you had two appearances. Like, you. Did you have to do rehearsals? Did you have to, like, were you. That you obviously had to be fitted for your costume? Were you able to pick your own costume, or do they pick them for you?

[Tamara Judge]

So you have a call and you just talk about life. Life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then they call you back and they've drawn up a costume for you. So that's how I became the Calla Lily.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

It's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What is Calla Lily Symbolize?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's like rebirth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

So I think that's why they chose that for me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I love that for you. But I love.

[Tamara Judge]

They also were amazing because most of the heads weigh a bajillion pounds. And they made mine really lightweight.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, for you to be able to hold it up.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, so I would be able to hold it up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is it hot in there? Do you have your own air conditioning unit?

[Tamara Judge]

You're not hot. But, like, it's only because I'm always cold. Like, I have the heat on right now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, I know. I almost died last night. I spent the night, and it was 100 degrees. I'm like, teddy, please. And you're laying on a heating pad with blankets over you. I'm over there sweating bullets. Like, I can't help it.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't help it. But there was somebody, like, when I. You're kind of. Then they bring you out and you're in your costumes and you're getting ready to perform or rehearse or whatever it may be. And as I'm standing there, there's, like, I don't know, six rows of, like, pipe and drape. And I heard somebody freaking out next to me, so I was trying to figure out who it was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What were they freaking out about?

[Tamara Judge]

They were just freaking out because of how long it was taking. Oh, really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So there was an asshole amongst you?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, there was someone that was flipping out, but I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So you, to this day, you don't

[Tamara Judge]

know who it was? No, I never. Because we. I. I know. It's a girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Huh?

[Tamara Judge]

But I didn't recognize her talking voice or her yelling voice, so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And obviously, now the intro. I can't remember. You were in the intro. When they do, like, your backstory and you talk, but they disguise your voice, and you talk about what's been going on. And then isn't that where they show a dove? Like, they give you little clues. They give the audience and the judges little clues to who you are. They had a slate. And I remember Jenny McCarthy goes, oh, they must be on TV. The wedding ring, was that supposed to symbolize housewife? Cause I'm like, they should have put a line through the wedding ring.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was supposed to be diamond.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, diamond.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you thought she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I thought it was about being married.

[Tamara Judge]

I did, too, actually. And I thought that I didn't have the heart to tell him that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That makes sense. They could have just plopped down a big old crystal diamond. I think that would be. I mean, they want to give subtle clues, obviously. And then the anchor was for cruise, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. They should have showed a cruise ship again, Maybe that's too much of a giveaway, right?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now, were you at any time, like, scared to do this or when the opportunity came to you, you're like, yeah,

[Tamara Judge]

let me think about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or were you like, I'm all in.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I needed so badly to do something. Yeah. When I wasn't feeling well that I was really excited to do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did it take a toll on you? Just like, like you said, wearing the costume and performing, like was it hard for you to do it or were

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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Have you ever performed in front of people?

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I mean, I've seen singing. I've gone on stage with my dad before and sang with him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Were you sex?

[Tamara Judge]

No. Well, yes. But also I've done it with Kyle

[Teddy Mellencamp]

and as a group. As a group, it's not like just yourself.

[Tamara Judge]

Never myself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you ever want to be a singer?

[Tamara Judge]

When I was in the third grade, I had a solo. My Venus, My Venus, My.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, that's great. Goddess of Love. Okay, we heard enough.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm just kidding. I'm not that bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did your dad give you any advice?

[Tamara Judge]

He did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He did. Well, I want to hear the advice. And I also want to ask you did he have to sign off on you using his song?

[Tamara Judge]

It's not. He doesn't own the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, he doesn't own that.

[Tamara Judge]

The rights to him anymore. So it's the first time a John Mellencamp song's been used because they sold the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So how did you. How are you able to sing it? Like, they have to go, who owns it now?

[Tamara Judge]

Whoever. Whoever it is, they have to go and get it approved. And so somebody owns his masters now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So he sold it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Oh, he would have never approved it. Are you kidding me?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He wouldn't have?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, he would.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What advice did he give you?

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, don't worry about how you sound, but sing out and be proud. The only person I did tell that I was doing it was my dad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because you were going to use his song.

[Tamara Judge]

Because let me use this song. But by the way, that wasn't my idea. I wasn't like, I want my first song to be a super emotional one. Fight song.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was an emotional one.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I was crying inside my mask during that. Shaking all the things. And then they asked me, would I do Life Goes on for the second song? And I was like, I'm for sure getting picked. They're gonna know that it's me now. And then Jenny McCarthy, she knew.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did she reach out to you at all?

[Tamara Judge]

She did. She sent me a message right afterwards.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What'd she say?

[Tamara Judge]

She was just like, you know, I'm so proud of you for doing this. We're rooting for you. I mean, all of them were. They were. Everybody. I can say that of all the productions I've ever worked on, everybody is so kind and goes above and beyond to make sure that you're comfortable.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wow.

[Tamara Judge]

And, like, I loved everyone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's good. So it makes it easier and more enjoyable. Do you. Now that you're done, is there any. Like, there was no. Is there an end of the season? Like, everybody gets on stage or anything like that?

[Tamara Judge]

No, there's no send off. The send off is immediately once your head is taken off, like a big hook.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Get out of here.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then. And then you sing it one last time and they come up and sing with you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you have to go for, like, fittings for the costume?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I had to go for a bunch of fittings.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think I did more. So it wasn't just two days at the studio. You had to do a lot of things. You had to record your intro. Right. You have to record that.

[Tamara Judge]

I had to record my Intro. But I did that one of the days that I was like, you have a lot of time during the day.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. So you just sit there, like, in a. Like a studio, and you read whatever they wrote.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Oh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then they disguise your voice, and

[Tamara Judge]

then you tell them, this doesn't sound like me, or this sounds like me, or.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Huh. And so you said you had no choice on what songs you were singing. So the fight song.

[Tamara Judge]

The fight song. They had given me a couple of other options to choose from. I think one was Fighter from Christina Aguilera.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, that's a hard one.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then which one did I want to do? Oh, I wanted to do Jesus, so I dug my key right through the set. Yeah. Before he cheats.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, geez.

[Tamara Judge]

I wasn't thinking about the angle of yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

As your story.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, it wouldn't fit into your story.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So then they give you options, and then you sing them, and then they decide which one's best.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Were you sad to be off so soon?

[Tamara Judge]

I was sad. But I also knew, like, I'm not a good singer. And I could hear. You can hear the other singers.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, you can?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Like, when I was in my dressing room, I could hear the person next to me practicing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who do you think was the best singer?

[Tamara Judge]

Like, what.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What costume were they in?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't even see this person in a costume.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, so you don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

She sounded really good. Like, I was like, if this is who I'm up against, I'm a goner. Ah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So like we said, you sang one of your dads and that was your unmasking song. Was your dad's. Was there any hesitation in using his song? Were you, like you said earlier, like, they're going to know who I am. Did you have another song in mind that you wanted to do?

[Tamara Judge]

For a moment, I was like, I'm not going to say yes to this, because I've already. People love to say I live in my dad's shadow and yada, yada, yada. But then I started thinking. I'm like, you know what.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What do you. You got. Who cares what they think?

[Tamara Judge]

And I have the opportunity to go up and sing my dad's song. I'm gonna do it. I'm so proud of him, and I wanted to give it the best shot that I can. And, yeah, I did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, your unmasking was very emotional. Yeah, right. What were you feeling in that moment? Like, what was going through?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I don't. I was. The entire time I was on stage, I was Shaking so much that that's what's taking up the majority of, like, my mindset.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I was, like. I was worried that I wouldn't know the words.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, let's talk about that. Because they're not pre recorded. I had thought that they were pre recorded. And then you just go up there and act like you're singing. So you have to memorize.

[Tamara Judge]

You have a teleprompter. But remember, I can't see very well, and I can't wear my glasses on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. So there is a teleprompter for people that can see.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Huh. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

All right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So.

[Tamara Judge]

But I also. I'm not one of those that can, like, look down and then look back up and, like, carry on exactly where I left off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And the costume is really heavy. And, I mean, it was beautiful. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So we already talked about. Is. Is Jenny the only one that reached out to you?

[Tamara Judge]

Jenny was the only one that reached out to me privately. But all of them. All of the judges were so nice. During the unmasking and even leading up to it, I mean, a lot of people thought I was Selma Blair.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was just gonna say that. Or Christina Applegate.

[Tamara Judge]

Christina Applegate. Both, who are, you know, similar situations.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Having health issues.

[Tamara Judge]

Having health issues and struggling to be. But I think that's because of how unsteady I was on my feet. I'm definitely feeling stronger than I was then.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. For sure. Would you ever do something like this again?

[Tamara Judge]

Of course.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. She wouldn't turn down any opportunity.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I'm not gonna turn down.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She'd be on House of Villains next.

[Tamara Judge]

Would you ever go on mas singer Teddy?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We've all heard my voice.

[Tamara Judge]

We just heard mine here.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yours is better than mine, sweetie. I just. I don't think singing's for me. I've actually talked to a producer that's on that show, and she asked me the same thing. Would you ever do it? I think you should do it. I'm like, no. I don't know. I mean, again, I'm like you. I'm not gonna say no to anything. Everything's a great experience. But would I embarrass myself 1000%? But I've been doing that for the past 18 years, so it's really nothing new.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Well, I mean, the Chrisleys were croissants,

[Teddy Mellencamp]

and I asked them, do you know why they were croissants?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Because Savannah's ex boyfriend was from Paris, and he died on a. And on a motorcycle.

[Tamara Judge]

Great.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And Then we know why the ball and chain was there.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. To me, his. Maybe because I know him personally, it was a dead giveaway. I wouldn't have known that was Julie, but I absolutely knew that was Todd.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

His voice completely gave it away.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think mine did, too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I.

[Tamara Judge]

My speaking voice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Is similar to my singing voice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, your first song, I thought you did really well. Eddie's like, wow, she can sing.

[Tamara Judge]

Really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She can sing. And then there was the second song,

[Tamara Judge]

and then there was the second song, and then there was showing of how many other talented singers there are that actually sing for a living.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you think it's fair that they do have talented singers go on there?

[Tamara Judge]

Kind of like Dancing with the Stars, right? I think it's shifted. I think at the beginning, it was a bunch of just athletes, and I

[Teddy Mellencamp]

think they should separate them. I think that they should do one where there is, like, maybe professional singers that can go on this, and then they have some that, you know, don't sing.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, I like when it comes to, like, Dancing with the Stars, for example, like, I would feel very insecure going on that show because I see how well all the dancers are.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But when you're on Masked Singer, you're masked, so no one sees you hide behind that. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Both of them scare me. Dance for the Stars.

[Tamara Judge]

And I want to see you on one of them one day.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I want to see you on Dance for the Stars.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. We couldn't even do a TikTok just now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, right after you write your book

[Tamara Judge]

Unbothered.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Unbothered. No. You should be very bothered.

[Tamara Judge]

Extremely bothered.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Extremely bothered.

[Tamara Judge]

More bothered by the day.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You bother me.

[Tamara Judge]

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