Can You Call Yourself A MILF? (Summer House Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod: "Can You Call Yourself A MILF?" (Summer House Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: February 25, 2026
Episode Focus: Recap of Summer House Season 10, Episode 4, celebrity headlines, and reality TV commentary.

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In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver an energetic and playful breakdown of the latest Summer House episode, gossip about housewives headlines, and dive into the broader culture of Bravo reality TV. With their signature unfiltered banter, they dissect relationships, cast drama, and hot topics, invoking both humor and insider perspective.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Catch-up & Celebrity Headlines

• Sick Kids & Parenting Talk (02:26–03:47)

  • Teddi shares that her daughter Dove is sick, ahead of her birthday party:
    "I'm powering through more than she is…The party is this weekend. Hello. Everyone's talking about it." (02:46)
  • Parenting struggles: Daughter wants an iPhone purely for apps—not phone numbers.

• Lisa Rinna's Party Incident (03:58–05:15)

  • Lisa Rinna reportedly suspects she was drugged at a "Traders" premiere party, per TMZ.
  • Tamra highlights the ongoing drama with Colton Underwood and uncertainty about official statements.

    "This one is going to cause a lot of problems." — Tamra (05:15)

• Salt Lake City Drama: Whitney vs. Meredith (05:15–07:19)

  • Whitney Rose publicly calls Meredith Marks a liar at a live event and claims producers protect cast members from consequences.
  • Reflection on the pattern of public Bravo cast drama, legal issues, and production politics.

• America’s Next Top Model Documentary (06:17–07:19)

  • Teddi praises new doc and discusses controversy with Tyra Banks:
    "It's like the difference in how you could make TV 20 years ago versus now." — Teddi (06:43)
  • Sympathy for former cast members:
    "You feel so bad for Mrs. J. And then you feel bad for Mr. J." — Teddi (07:00)

2. Summer House News & Cast Developments

• Summer House’s Record Viewership & Spinoff Teasers (08:15–09:14)
  • Season 10 premiere hit 2 million viewers in its first week—the series’ biggest.
  • Rumors: Paige leaving for Netflix; new spinoffs in early stages as fresh cast members are integrated.

    "They're looking at other houses... I think it's about time." — Tamra (09:10–09:15)

3. Summer House Season 10, Episode 4 Recap

House Dynamics & Relationship Drama

• Jesse’s "Hot Edit" and Creepy Energy (09:30–10:17)

  • Teddi and Tamra agree that Jesse’s behavior is off-putting, especially snuggling with girls in bed: "Jesse is giving me the ick." — Teddi (09:44) "What if I get a boner?" Jesse says to Sierra, causing discomfort among the group. (10:19)

• Jesse "Cockblocking" Wes, Sierra & Love Triangle (14:45–16:11)

  • Discussion on whether Jesse is blocking Wes from pursuing Sierra, or just bored: "Do you think Jesse's trying to cockblock Wes?" — Tamra (14:45) "I think Wes is in love with Sierra and... will end up with her." — Teddi (14:58)

• Wes’ Australian Singles Bash & Bringing Friends (15:26–16:44)

  • Wes hosts a singles party with the rule to bring someone to hook up with — surprisingly awkward party logistics.
  • Question on Amanda’s absence and speculation about her relationship status.

• Lindsay, MILF Moment, and Confidence (18:33–19:24)

  • Lindsay declares herself a MILF, sparking debate:

    "I can't decide if this is the biggest form of self esteem or the most cringe thing I've ever heard in my entire life. She's like, yeah, I'm a MILF now." — Teddi (18:36)

  • Lindsay’s attitude: Now that she’s a mom, she can stop stressing and just enjoy herself.

• Ben: The Quiet, Mysterious “Hot Guy” (21:18–22:07)

  • Group struggles to read Ben due to his reserved nature:

    "He needs to say more words for us to get any type of read." — Teddi (21:31) "He has such a beautiful accent. He should use it more often." — Tamra (21:34)

Ongoing Tensions and “The Ick” Factor

• Jesse’s, Wes’s, and Sierra’s Awkward Triangle (22:10–24:07)

  • Teddi and Tamra critique Jesse for trying to “call dibs” and possibly sabotaging friendships:

    "There's nothing like ruining a friendship to make you not happy." — Teddi (23:26)

  • Sierra’s irritation at Jesse’s advances and the implications for the house’s harmony:

    "When something pisses her off, there ain't no coming back." — Tamra (21:10)

• Other New Cast Members & First Impressions (17:43–27:29)

  • Dara: Her arrival and unclear future in the house.

    "Does she get a bedroom at the house?" — Tamra (31:26)

  • Bailey: Criticism of her outfits and schoolmarm energy.

• Carl’s Glow-Up & Lindsay’s Disinterest (25:14–26:13)

  • Carl is more confident and “over Lindsay,” drawing amusement: "He's walking around half naked, his long skinny body covered in hair, his mic pack in his underwear." — Tamra (25:19)

• Banter About Flirting and Over-talking (26:27–27:29)

  • Aspen and Molly (from Southern Charm) comparisons.
  • Playful shade about non-stop talking:
    "At first I thought it was endearing. Now I'm like, say less." — Tamra (27:17)

Party Preparations and Speculation

• Renaissance Party Setup (32:00–32:21)

  • Underwhelming party themes and longing for more elaborate celebrations:

    "They really half assed it…like normally their costumes are out of control." — Teddi (32:00)

• Meta Jokes & Recapper Self-awareness (32:30–36:00)

  • Teddi and Tamra imagine themselves as Summer House guests: “Nothing like feeling old.” (32:42)
  • Discussions about Instagram, following ex-cast members, and algorithm-induced envy:

    "Show me the ugly people. That's who I want to follow. I'm just kidding." — Tamra (36:00)

Notable Quotes, Sass, and Memorable Moments

• "You put it in football terms, you fumbled. Sierra moved on." — Teddi (20:25)
• "I question, was he just doing it for the show before?" — Teddi (35:06)
• "He shares these little boy things…is this a hot guy facade?" — Teddi (23:48)
• "My nervous system is not what it used to be." — Tamra on watching pimple-popping and earwax videos (36:11)
• "Well, I think it's about to stop. I think Sierra is going to stop that shit from happening after what she heard." — Tamra (38:56)
• "Can't believe they have invited these old ladies to come out and show them the way it's done. By 8:30, orange string cheese flying out of our… oh my delicious." — Teddi (39:32)
• "Booked and busy." — Tamra (40:16)

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Structured Segment Timestamps

• Podcast start & host greetings: 02:26–03:47
• Lisa Rinna/housewives headlines: 03:58–07:19
• Top Model documentary debate: 06:17–08:06
• Summer House ratings & spinoffs: 08:15–09:14
• Summer House S10E4 recap starts: 09:21–39:32
  • Jesse/relationship drama: 09:30–10:25, 14:45–16:11
  • Wes-Sierra triangle & party: 15:26–16:44
  • Lindsay's MILF moment: 18:33–19:24
  • Ben/reading housemates: 21:18–22:07
  • Dara’s arrival: 17:43–18:05, 31:20–31:33
  • Bailey & Aspen: 26:27–27:29
  • Renaissance party prep: 32:00–32:21
  • Banter & "old lady" jokes: 32:30–36:00
• Closing thoughts, Beverly Hills/Valley preview: 39:32–40:17

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Conclusion

Teddi and Tamra wield their trademark wit, skepticism, and on-the-inside energy throughout the episode. They blend pure Bravo snark with genuine insight, bouncing between recaps, pop culture headlines, and their own experiences. If you want the real "tea" on Summer House, reality TV drama, and why some Bravo stars are getting the "ick," this episode delivers—no holds barred.

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Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Good morning, Teddy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Good morning, Tam.

[Tamara Judge]

How you doing today?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hanging in. Hanging in sound good?

[Tamara Judge]

Energy up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Energy's up. Dove is really sick.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. The other day, and she was sick then.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I started getting a little bit of cold, but I'm powering through more than she is.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. She's like.

[Tamara Judge]

And she was isolated, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Hopefully she gets better before her birthday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know it's this week. I mean, the party is this weekend. Hello. Everyone's talking about it.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. She. I asked her, what do you want for your birthday? She's like an iPhone, but I don't want any phone numbers on it. I just want apps on it. I want all the apps on it. I'm like, okay.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

She. That's her excuse for wanting to get it. Just, you know, I want to be able to play on the apps.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. She'd be calling you all day. Is she getting one?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I'm not even getting her a present because can't you just give her

[Tamara Judge]

an old iPhone that you have that you put apps on it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, if somebody knew how to do that, sure. But what apps would I put on? Games. Probably doesn't have to have wi Fi.

[Tamara Judge]

She probably wants YouTube on it. But does. Doesn't she have. She has a tablet, though.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She has the little iPad that has her games on there.

[Tamara Judge]

So she really wants a phone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She just wants a phone that she can carry around with and lose. So get mad about. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we got a few headlines here that just came in overnight. The first one is, Lisa Rana thinks she was drugged at a Trader's premiere party. This is according to tmz. Lisa Rena reveals she may have been drugged at the traders party on January 8th. Fellow castmate Colton Underwood, her nemesis, as she says. Notice she seemed extremely intoxicated despite reportedly not drinking much. Underwood alerted Rena's team. Now, this is somebody that they don't have a close relationship with who then got her out of the event after a group photo, possibly preventing further issues. It's unclear if police were called or if Rinna sought medical attention afterwards. She didn't talk about any of this when we had her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We forgot to ask.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't think we heard about this until just recently.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think I had heard about it. Oh, you had heard.

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[Tamara Judge]

So, I mean, this comes, you know, ongoing tension between Rena and Underwood, including drama at the Traders reunion and a social media unfollowing. But no. Was there a. Is this an official statement from Rena because. Or her reps? I'm not quite clear.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I don't think it's an official.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, this one is going to cause a lot of problems. This next headline, Salt Lake City. Whitney Rose slams Meredith as a liar and agrees Lisa is a see you next Tuesday as she suggests producers protect against certain cast members. Now, oddly enough, I was moving Sophia to North county, and there was an improv, and there was a improv, and it had Whitney's face on it. So I think this is where this happened. There was, like a drag queen brunch situation that she was hosting. She was hosting. Whitney Rose publicly called out cast mates at a live event, slamming Meredith Marks as a liar, accusing her of and others of not telling the truth about the dramatic incident. She prefers Lisa over Meredith in terms of honesty. Whitney claimed producers protect certain cast members from accountability. She referenced lawsuits and legal restrictions, saying,

[Teddi Mellencamp]

well, you know who's not going to be doing all that?

[Tamara Judge]

Who?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We need to go up. I'm sorry. We can't recap reality television without at least giving a little nod to one of the best of the best that I watched, the documentary. Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, sorry.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. America's Next Top Model.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I haven't seen that documentary yet. Is it good?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You guys sprint run, whatever you need

[Tamara Judge]

to do, but people are going. Going after Tyra. That's all I saw.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So it's like the difference in how you could make TV 20 years ago versus now.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. People are saying she really sucks.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. But the documentary is great. And you feel so bad for Mrs. J. And then you feel bad for Mr. J. And then you also feel bad for what? I forget who the hot guy's name was that was just there to be the hot guy, but not really talk.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't remember. I don't remember watching that show. But what do you think Bravo is going to say about this performance from Whitney and hinting that the drama could cost her job?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think her job's probably already been on the line a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there was rumors that everybody was asked back. I don't know if that's true, but, you know, talking about legal issues and lawsuits and production protecting, it's not a good look at all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And don't do it when you're like, what's the point?

[Tamara Judge]

Sloshed. Sloshed on stage.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that's a problem.

[Tamara Judge]

Never good. Can't say that I never did it. Well, Eva, speaking of the Top Model situation, Eva Marcel from Top Model and Housewives said she had a different experience than everyone else and. And that she wasn't asked to be part of the documentary.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh. So maybe Only the ones that had bad experiences were asked.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course. That's what makes it interesting.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Shandy justice for shandy.

[Tamara Judge]

Summerhouse season 10 also posted historic numbers with roughly 2 million total viewers across platforms in its first seven days, the most watched premiere in Summer House history. That's good. That's good for them.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, that's wild.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, producers at Truly Original confirmed multiple spinoff ideas are in development beyond just simple extensions of the main show. So the city. There is one happening. The city. Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think there's going to be more, too. And I don't think we've seen the last of Paige.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, no, Paige got to deal with Netflix.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So she's out of the Bravo world. She's going to get those, you know, big dollars from Netflix.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So we're not gonna still see her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I feel like because they brought in so many new people to Summer House that there is going to be a split in the cast next season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And they're gonna go to me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're looking at other houses. They can have the Summer House location.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's about time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, we need to have a new.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We need to have a new breakup. Doom. Dune. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, speaking of Summer House, we're going to be recapping season 10, episode 4. So everyone wakes up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Only in this Summer House can you expect for a guy to say to a girl, let's go get in bed, and for it to be totally fine because it's just to get in bed and be girls.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it creeping you out? Jesse in bed with the girls all the time?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, Jesse is giving me the ick.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it creeping you out more that Carl was walking around in his underwear with his mic pack sticking in his butt hole?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was bothering me too. But, yeah, this is what.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Has Jesse gotten such, like, a hot edit? He thinks he's gonna get one this time because he's not.

[Tamara Judge]

He. It's just kind of is creepy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Even when he was singing the notes to the songs.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. But then he's also like, at one point, he's snuggling. Get over here, Sierra. Let's snuggle.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then he's like, what if I.

[Tamara Judge]

She's going for it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not really. Then she stops him because then he's like, what if I get a boner? And she's like, you better not.

[Tamara Judge]

So Mia was next to Sierra when he said, what if I get a boner? She's like, don't. Please don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's very bizarre.

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[Tamara Judge]

Do you think that Jesse's trying to cockblock West?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know why he would need to. I think he just has no other options right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, Wes clearly likes Sierra and they had a relationship and I

[Teddi Mellencamp]

think west is in love with Sierra and I think wants to be with her and ultimately will end up with her.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, what's up?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but he's. They're gonna end up together. Just give me that glimmer of hope.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I don't. I don't know. I mean, the way she's acting towards

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Jesse, I think she's just flirtatious.

[Tamara Judge]

You think she's just like, oh, he's a bud.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I don't think she really wants anything there.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, Wes says he's throwing in an Australian theme singles bash.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know it's bad when Wes has to call in enforcements to throw in a singles bash.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he brought his ex booty call

[Teddi Mellencamp]

that he tried to say that we Dated.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, everybody brings a friend to hook up with someone. Do you think Ben really needs help finding a hookup?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, because he doesn't speak.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think he just doesn't have any game?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. The less. The more I watch him, the less I want to have sex with him.

[Tamara Judge]

I love that you're judging the characters on who you want to have sex and who you would not want to have sex with.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It's been a while for you, hasn't it?

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

But Wes says he's throwing an Australian theme singles bash where everybody has to bring a. Bring a hookup with somebody else. Like, he has to clarify, like, we can't just hook up with each other. But am I wrong here, or was Kyle not here?

[Tamara Judge]

Kyle was not there. He was at a family reunion. But we noticeably missing is Amanda from that family reunion, so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because she can went to the singles party.

[Tamara Judge]

But I think maybe they weren't. I don't know. I just have a feeling that they really weren't together this season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So he seems like he was bummed out about that.

[Tamara Judge]

This is the first time we kept hearing Amanda saying, well, I'm not single. I have a husband, My husband this, that. But then she did go to. I forgot who it was. I'm married, so happily married. There's no problems at all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

My favorite part of this whole. I know we'll get to it later, but my favorite part of this entire show this week was when somebody goes, oh, so, Kyle, you're going to have a. You're going to start early so you can have a longer set and go later. And Amanda's face goes, yes.

[Tamara Judge]

She was just like this. And you see, like, how into this DJing he is. Like, he gets there, he's concentrating, he's doing his work and putting his songs together, and he. He really enjoys this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. Well, first impressions of Dar.

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[Tamara Judge]

I don't have one yet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, they. We've gotten a big.

[Tamara Judge]

Cute. Super cute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Super cute. But I think west is just being nice by saying girlfriend. I think they used to hook up and then they stopped hooking up. And their friends.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I mean, she's pretty, but have. I don't know enough about her yet. Do you hear Wesley? It's weird to hate your exes because all of his are cool, hot, and super fun. Don't jinx yourself, bud, because last year, CR wanted nothing to do with you. Right

[Teddi Mellencamp]

there. He's doing all right. He's. He's coming on up can we talk about. He's taking a spot.

[Tamara Judge]

Can we talk about how hot Lindsay is?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can we talk about how she called herself a milf? I can't decide if this is the biggest form of self esteem or the most cringe thing I've ever heard in my entire life. She's like, yeah, I'm a MILF now.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that was her way of saying I'm a mom without saying I have a child to him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they do look like they're hitting it off. Do you think there's going to be a love connection between them?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so. I think that it was really. I'm glad that Lindsay explained how she feels about men right now. How she's like, I always wanted the kid, and I always wanted the family. I always wanted to do these things. But, like, once I have, now I no longer feel pressed.

[Blue Apron / Aleve Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So now she's like, I can just go and screw whoever I want.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But she goes, I will use a condom. Now. Bailey thinks that Ben is the hottest guy she's ever seen. Now, I wouldn't go that far.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. I need Bailey to change some of her outfits.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I wasn't gonna say anything, but there's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Those are some Tammy Sue 1999 outfits.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. They. The. You talking about the white lace thing?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, especially on a dating.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. Situation, because her confessional outfits, I can. I can work with.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But the other ones always seem to be slightly like school mom.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Wes talks about his budding situation with Sierra that while their situation has been unclear, he loves that they are starting to get closer. And I'm like, well, you're not laying in bed with her, buddy. You don't have a boner next to her behind.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, west, you put. To put it in football terms, you fumbled. Sierra moved on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, very true. I'm curious to see what's going to happen. Are they gonna. Is this gonna be another love triangle?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think she's, like, on Southern charm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think she's gonna let that happen. I think the second she gets wind of this and now that he's talking about it so freely to everybody but her, it's gonna piss her off.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. We actually see this. This episode where she's like, huh?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Where she's confronting Jesse.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. She's not gonna like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Because then it's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It seems like the whole friendship is fake made up.

[Tamara Judge]

And you know, Sarah, when something pisses her off. There ain't no coming back.

[Blue Apron / Aleve Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

This girl is a grudge holder.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Now Lindsay thinks that she can't get a real read on Ben. I mean, she's known him 15 minutes so far. I think Ben's just kind of quiet and mysterious and I think it's hard to read people like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He needs to say more words for us to get any type of read.

[Tamara Judge]

He has such a beautiful accent. He should use it more often.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, he should use it more often so then we can decide if we like him or he gives us the ick. So come on, let's do it, buddy. I know more words, but it's the. Who's he really going to talk to? I mean, he was cute when he. Lindsay. Accidentally touched his hand and then he, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Then he, like, rubbed her.

[Blue Apron / Aleve Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He goes, sorry. And she. He goes, sorry for what? And she goes, accidentally touched your hand? And he was like, oh, and like, touched her. I was like, yeah, that was a

[Tamara Judge]

little flirting right there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Flirting.

[Tamara Judge]

But when Jesse asked West if he would care if he made out with Sierra, I'm like, what the hell is going on? Why would you. Like, of course he's gonna care.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He says it would just be for drunk and for fun.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, that was his biggest, biggest mistake saying that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that. I can't think of anything worse to say that than that. And then also, especially after you've been trying to be part of the friend group and cuddle in the bed and be the guy that everybody wasn't. And you, after your noxious year last year where you had that girlfriend for eight weeks, that it was just this toxic blowup that the whole house had to deal with.

[Tamara Judge]

But what. What did Jesse do to Sierra when he just. If looks could kill, he's like, huh? Did he touch her or something like that? Oh, is. Was it when she sat on the arm of his chair and, like, went in or something like that. And Wes was like, oh, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because he had just gotten to talk to. Yeah. Then they all go clubbing. But guess who doesn't make it. Amanda.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Amanda.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Amanda doesn't make it. She's sick. She's under the water.

[Tamara Judge]

She sounded really sick.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She sounded really sick. I mean, they did show her the fact that the girls got home at 2 and then the guys didn't get home till 4. I couldn't really shows the difference between.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they didn't even leave until 10:30 at night.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but still. 4 o'. Clock.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. No, I couldn't. I can't do that. Anymore. I'm too old for that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

KJ could start upping the talking, too, if I'm being honest.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because he's. He shares these, like, little boy things, like where he sounds like such a nice guy, where he's like, if my mom were to see two girls sitting on my lap, how would she feel? And I'm like, I want to understand you a little bit more. I want. Or is this a facade? Is this like a hot guy facade?

[Tamara Judge]

He's very. The stuff that he has talked about is like, family situation. I feel like he's just a really nice guy. Talks about his, you know, growing up and things like that. But as they're clubbing, Jesse asking. As they're clubbing, Wes talks to the guys about Jesse asking him about Sierra. I mean, I think it's disrespectful of Jesse to do this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Or do you think Sierra's fair game?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think unless he had a conversation with Ciara and it was something that they actually wanted to do, this conversation is completely unnecessary.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, Wes and Sierra finally on good terms. We saw last year, what they went through.

[Blue Apron / Aleve Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And why would he get in between

[Teddi Mellencamp]

that and the boys? Don't even. The boys are like, what the hell are you doing?

[Tamara Judge]

And there's tons of newbies in the house. Like, go somewhere else.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Jesse, go with the knitted crochet girl. She's available, right?

[Tamara Judge]

There's other ones available. I mean, go after Lindsay. I don't know. Lindsay would eat him up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Carl's looking for somebody. You got Carl.

[Tamara Judge]

What is going on with Carl this season? Can we just talk about him?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why is he so prepped up this season?

[Tamara Judge]

He's got his mojo back. He is over Lindsay. He's walking around half naked, his long skinny body covered in hair, his mic pack in his underwear.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When Lindsay says, I couldn't think of an ex less than I think of. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Poor Carl. I just don't even. I don't even think about him. Do you think that she, like, was into him because she thought, oh, I'm going to get a baby.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I think she was really worried about that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And now that is no longer a worry. She does not, like, have any, like, ill will or sadness when it comes to him. She's not like, oh, I missed those hairy shoulders. I miss telling him to go wax his shoulder blades.

[Tamara Judge]

No, all of it. Get all of it. Trim it, do something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They all get ready for the day. Bailey, Aspen. If he thinks she can flirt and he says yes, but then everybody's like, how many times have you seen her do it?

[Tamara Judge]

Once.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And he's like, once. And the one flirting was. What was it? It was something. No, who? She kind of reminds me of.

[Tamara Judge]

Who?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The girl from Summer. I mean, the girl from Southern Charm that has all the cats and plays the trombone.

[Tamara Judge]

Molly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Molly.

[Tamara Judge]

She does give Molly energy. She really does.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, she's. There's nothing wrong with her. She's cute, she's funny, she's down, like girl. She's ready for anything. She's gonna dress up for any occasion.

[Tamara Judge]

Kind of like a. A guy's a guy's girl, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, if you have to ask somebody if they know how to flirt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And he didn't even flirt back when she asked. No.

[Tamara Judge]

She talks a lot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She does.

[Tamara Judge]

She doesn't shut up. At first I thought it was endearing. Now I'm like, say less.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, the problem is now we don't even get to hear her word. Her friends say any words because she's talking so much.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

What's the deal with Dara? Like I she they brought her in and then I thought she was going to come for the weekend, but she didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

She didn't. So I'm wondering, does she get a bedroom at the house? Is she going to be there for the weekends?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're a little tight squeezed in.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. They're going to have to get

[Teddi Mellencamp]

who I'm sure would let her stay with him.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse West, Any of them. Carl, Carl, Carl. He's such a nice guy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wes tells Lindsay that things with Sierra we're doing well. And Lindsay thinks that Jesse is calling dibs.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, he is.

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[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then they set up for a renaissance party, which this was kind of their worst parties I've seen them set up. They really half assed it here. Like normally they throw their like costumes are out of control.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we haven't seen the full party setup.

[Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge Podcast Announcer]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Didn't they leave us on setting up for the party? They usually do a pretty good job with these theme parties.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. That's why I was wondering, are they.

[Tamara Judge]

Could you imagine just getting paid to just throw weekend parties in the Hamptons? That's not a shitty job at all.

[Blue Apron / Aleve Advertiser]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who should have gone for their hot girl summer there? Who? Kyle, Dorit and oh.

[Tamara Judge]

To summer house. Yeah. Nothing like feeling old.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Missed opportunity.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nothing like feeling old.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here's also the thing. At this point, west has now told all the guys as well

[Tamara Judge]

that about Sierra.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Wes has told all the guys that he said it and that he thinks,

[Tamara Judge]

well, and then the guys are like. Some of them are like, that's not super weird. That's super weird. And I think he tells them they're floating in the water. He didn't he say so? Like some people might think you're a dick and something else. Yeah. Jesse's like, he's like a Labrador. He's just,

[Teddi Mellencamp]

oh my gosh. So excited.

[Tamara Judge]

And he's so excited. He's so happy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, there's nothing like ruining a friendship to make you not happy.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not gonna go well at all. But how about writing Jesse wrote a song about wanting to be with your best friend. And it's like, I think, was it producers or in the confessional? Like they're like, is it about Sierra? I'm not saying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm not saying anything.

[Tamara Judge]

And then he goes, she doesn't know. So obviously it's her. It's her. I mean, if Jesse wrote a song for you, what would it be called?

[Matt Rogers or Bowen Yang (Las Culturistas)]

Who?

[Tamara Judge]

That old lady?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, Tumor. Teddy is totally tubular.

[Tamara Judge]

He'd be like, tamara, who dat Old lady.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like what? Also, I don't know. I don't want someone to sing songs to me right off the bat.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I think somebody sang songs to you your whole life at home. Who can compete with John Mellencamp?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right? Yeah. We can kind of leave it as is.

[Tamara Judge]

You're like, that's not my love language anymore.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I don't need to hear your song.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Especially if it's about getting together as friends now.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't put it past Jesse to make a move on Sierra or Amanda at this point, or maybe even Lindsay. Like, I just feel like he's just. Who's next? Where do I go? He's like Sally on Southern Charm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, he's gonna figure somebody out, but I think he'll just end up hooking up with a stranger.

[Tamara Judge]

But, I mean, nothing's off limits to him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I question, was he just doing it for the show before?

[Tamara Judge]

Who knows?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like before, when he had that whole girlfriend, and then all of a sudden, the show's over and it's broken. But it was like all this dramatics. Like, do we think that was even anything real?

[Tamara Judge]

Probably not. It's hard to tell.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know why Instagram keeps letting me know I should follow her.

[Tamara Judge]

Follow who? Which one?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't even know her name, but Jesse's girl, Lexi.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh. Oh, my God. I see her stuff a lot too.

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Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Instagram. I understand she is skinny and hot. I don't need to follow.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't need to feel worse about myself. Thank you. I try not to follow people like that. Thank you very much.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't need to see her walking down the Runway with 14 lights. I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.

[Tamara Judge]

Show me the ugly people. That's who I want to follow. I'm just kidding.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Show me the pimple popping.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Pimple popping.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You must been on a break, because I haven't gotten much of those lately.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm telling you, my nervous system is not what it used to be. Now when I see it, I gross out. Oh, it's the weirdest thing. And you know what really grosses me on Instagram? When they show that. Those toenail things where they start cutting the toenails off or earwax.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. Oh, I. But the problem is they never actually take the earwax out. They show it like it's gonna happen, and I get all excited, and I'm. I'm in. I've got one foot in the door, like, ready for it to happen, and then they don't actually pull it all the way out. And I'm like, that was so rude.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't you hate Instagram posts that you're like, watching something, don't know why the hell you're watching it. You're just waiting to see what happens

[Teddi Mellencamp]

and then it never happens and then nothing happens. I started to learn that more and more people are doing that well.

[Tamara Judge]

It's because they're trying to get engagement. I know, but just like all these silly tiktoks and real. I'm like, first of all, it's. It's a lot. It's a lot. Some of them post a lot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think we need to get up on following the rest of the people from. From these.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we have all these new people to follow. We've got a lot, so many new ones on here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm sure Jesse would come back if we asked him. I think he already asked to come back.

[Tamara Judge]

Bring him back.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We gotta make fun of him a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Just a little bit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, just a tick.

[Tamara Judge]

A little bit. What do you think about Wes's tie that he's wearing? It's looks kind of Harry Potter in his confessional.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think the Fabless. I. I don't get the ick from West. So west could probably wear.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't either.

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I'm just like a librero.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is that what they're called?

[Tamara Judge]

What are. The little bolo tie. Yeah, the bolo ties. Yeah, those. Those were coming back for a hot second.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, like he could wear probably whatever. And I still wouldn't get it icked out.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he's got his own fashion and he owns it. And I think that you had like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, what about when the girls are like. It just hits different. When you see Ben jumping in the

[Tamara Judge]

pool every morning and getting out and then the comparison. I'm like you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It just hits different.

[Tamara Judge]

And then there's like Wes with his dad bod jumping, trying to get out,

[Teddi Mellencamp]

trying to keep his ex's ex and get closer with her so that when he's ready to move on and get into a relationship, they can be good. He doesn't need sneaky Jesse trying to slip in her pants with this. Just the tip. Like when they're gossiping.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse, you little creep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I don't like that one.

[Tamara Judge]

With love.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't like it one bit. I didn't like it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think it's about to stop. I think Sierra is going to stop that shit from happening after what she heard. After this episode.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I did feel a softerness. To an Amanda. To Amanda. After this episode. Did you. I mean, I had much and she was very ill.

[Tamara Judge]

But yeah, I mean, I, I have this whole season because I feel like she's trying. She's tried with Kyle. She's just tried and nothing's working. So now she's like, why am I trying anymore? Yeah. So. Yeah. But it was a good episode. Can't wait to see the Renaissance party.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. They better go all out. Can't believe they have invited these old ladies to come out and show them the way it's done. By 8:30, orange string cheese flying out of our. Oh my delicious.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh my gosh. We need a lot of Metamucil. We've got some of the Valley Persian style and we've got Beverly Hills.

[Tamara Judge]

Beverly Hills coming up this week.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I think we have some guests too. Gigi and Tannen.

[Tamara Judge]

Yep, we have a full week this week. Teddy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we're all booked up.

[Tamara Judge]

All booked. Booked and busy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're very busy. All right, bye.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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