Choose Your Battles (RHOP Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Choose Your Battles (RHOP Recap)
Release Date: February 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge reunite (with Dolores guesting) to spill the tea on the explosive Part 2 of the Real Housewives of Potomac Season 10 reunion. The duo dive into headline drama from the Bravo universe, behind-the-scenes tea, and of course, a frame-by-frame breakdown of the Potomac reunion: credit card chaos, family feuds, romantic entanglements, and plenty of “binder” drama. The panel delivers their signature blend of irreverence, insider insight, and unfiltered honesty.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Travel Woes and Personal Updates

Timestamps: 02:41 – 06:30

• Tamra shares she’s stranded in Sarasota, Florida due to a historic blizzard and massive flight cancellations.
• Dolores checks on Vicki’s safety in Mexico after hearing about dangerous situations there.
• Both hosts reflect on how unpredictable life—and travel—can be for “housewives on the go.”

2. Bravo Headlines and Allegations

Timestamps: 09:44 – 13:30

• Meghan King vs. Jim Edmonds drama: Meghan alleges her ex leaked her phone number to sex workers to harass her, a claim Jim denies. The cast questions the plausibility and discuss the ongoing harassment Meghan reports to police.
• Salt Lake City Season 7 tea: Queens of Bravo announces production is restarting with a new housewife joining. Tamra and Dolores note that Miami’s franchise doesn’t appear to be filming, leading to speculation about its future.

3. Potomac Reunion Part 2 Recap

Timestamps: 13:30 – 54:18

Credit Card Chaos: Wendy vs. Ashley

15:15 – 16:38

• Dolores and Tamra marvel at the “67 credit cards” argument between Wendy and Ashley.
• Tamra: “If you got 67 Social Security numbers, you're going to jail.” (16:02)
• Dolores: “Nobody needs 67 credit cards. I can't even believe somebody would give them 67 credit cards.” (15:47)

Friendship, Fights, and “Choosing Battles”

• The duo reflect on Ashley and Wendy’s spat, suggesting Wendy should pick her battles and focus elsewhere with so many major issues swirling.
• Dolores: “Ashley is really the least of her concern.” (16:26)

The Ashley/Josh and Motherly Matchmaking Saga

19:06 – 23:39

• Ashley’s romance with Josh comes under the microscope. Hosts doubt Ashley’s true happiness and debate dating younger men.
• Tamra makes a public apology to Ashley regarding a previous comment about Ashley’s kiss with Sharice's son, acknowledging the full story changed her opinion.
• Dolores: “So I want to make an apology to Ashley... now that I've heard it on the other end, if the mother encouraged it, what was [wrong with it]?” (23:32)

Storylines, Housewife Hustle, and “The Frame”

24:49 – 28:15

• The infamous “frame instead of a ring” scene is dissected. Tamra and Dolores agree it felt like a failed attempt to manufacture a reality TV moment:
  • Tamra: “Getting a frame from a jewelry store where you're expecting to get a ring with... When your guy is shopping for a ring on camera and you're left with a freaking photo frame...” (27:18)
  • Dolores: “Keep your damn frame.” (28:05)

Jazzy and Kay: Train Shade and Family Claims

29:49 – 33:29

• Kay allegedly ignored Jazzy on the train; Jazzy claps back with rumors about Kay stealing Greg from his wife.
• Dolores reads Kay’s public post denying overlap and “fabricated narrative,” with pointed lines like:
  • Kay: “Reality television invites commentary. It does not justify misinformation or fabricated narrative.” (32:01)
• The hosts shade Jazzy as a “try hard” and suggest she doesn’t fit with the group’s energy.

Tia’s Turn: Love Languages and Sibling Guilt

33:29 – 35:26

• Tia shares that “verbal abuse is her love language," sparking a side tangent about how housewife couples tease each other.
• Tamra and Dolores reflect on Tia’s relationship with her half-sister and the heavy guilt of waiting until after her father’s death to connect.
  • Dolores: “If you have a case like that, don't wait... there's nothing worse than living with guilt.” (35:26)

Secret Recordings and Shady Behavior

36:17 – 37:35

• Group accuses Jazzy of secretly recording phone calls; hosts are intrigued but want “more information”—was it accidental, or a regular tactic?

Giselle’s Family Will Drama

37:35 – 39:40

• Giselle’s emotional story about losing her father’s inheritance to her stepmother is discussed.
• Dolores: “It's a tale as old as time. It happens more often than not.” (38:41)

Monique Returns — Binder 2.0

42:31 – 46:34

• Monique dramatically re-enters the reunion, binder in hand (again).
• Dolores dubs Monique “the receipt queen” and marvels that Andy Cohen gave Monique’s binder such reverence this time.
  • Tamra: “Can I just say one thing? When that binder came out, everybody on the couch shit themselves.” (44:27)
• The contents: primarily receipts involving Giselle’s ex-husband, among other “major receipts.” The group is left on a cliffhanger with another Monique “receipt” about Stacy and her ex-husband.

Angel, Bobby, and the Challenges of Reality TV

46:43 – 48:59

• The hosts empathize with Angel, whose first season was a “disaster” both professionally and personally.
  • Dolores: “I just don't know... Reality is not for everybody.” (48:38)
  • Tamra: “You have a beautiful life... What are you fighting for this for?” (48:41)

Stacy, Chris, and Fling-gate

49:16 – 51:59

• Andy confronts Stacy about rumors she had a fling with Chris; Stacy dodges, but production “hot mic” footage casts skepticism.
• Dolores notes: “Sometimes you say things... you always got to be careful of those mindful...” (50:20)
• Hosts speculate the issue is less about the fling than about Stacy’s pattern of “little white lies.”

Reunion Cliffhangers & Fan Feedback

51:59 – 54:18

• Monique reveals yet another ambiguous “receipt,” leaving both the cast and fans desperate for answers.
• Dolores shares fan reactions: calls for Jazzy to go, critiques of Ashley, and speculation about Wendy’s legal troubles—most of which are promised to be addressed in the finale part 3.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On 67 Credit Cards:
  • “If you got 67 Social Security numbers, you're going to jail.” — Tamra (16:02)
• On Ashley’s Smooch with Sharice’s Son:
  • “I'm starting to wonder if Sharice used it for a storyline more than Ashley.” — Dolores (22:09)
• On “the frame” instead of a ring:
  • “Keep your damn frame.” — Dolores (28:05)
• On Jazzy’s Role:
  • “Jazzy, to me, was just a little bit of a try hard vibe. It doesn't seem like any of the ladies truly like her.” — Dolores (30:45)
• On Monique’s Infamous Binder:
  • “When that binder came out, everybody on the couch shit themselves.” — Tamra (44:27)
• On Housewife Storylines:
  • “Everybody needs a storyline. And I hate when people are like, oh, you only did that for a storyline.” — Dolores (22:24)

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Timestamps of Major Segments

| Segment | Timeframe | |---------|------------| | Travel Woes & Life Updates | 02:41 – 06:30 | | Headline Roundup | 09:44 – 13:30 | | Potomac Reunion Recap Begins | 13:30 | | Credit Card Argument | 15:15 – 16:38 | | Ashley’s Romantic Drama | 19:06 – 23:39 | | The Frame Scene | 24:49 – 28:15 | | Jazzy vs. Kay | 29:49 – 33:29 | | Tia’s Sibling Story | 33:29 – 35:26 | | Giselle’s Family Will | 37:35 – 39:40 | | Monique’s Binder Returns | 42:31 – 46:34 | | Angel’s Season Recap | 46:43 – 48:59 | | Stacy/Chris Drama | 49:16 – 51:59 | | Fan Feedback & Closing | 53:02 – 54:18 |

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Final Thoughts

• The episode is heavy on playful shade, insider observations, and genuine reflection about the often “unreal” world of reality TV.
• Potomac’s reunion is described as one of the most drama-packed yet, with anticipation for the next installment running high.
• Both hosts emphasize how quickly alliances and narratives shift—not just on-screen, but in the “podcasting” and real world.

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Next Week:
Karen joins the reunion couch. Expect more receipts, more fireworks, and, as always, Tamra and Dolores’ sharp recaps—“The Grand Dom is back!” (54:35)

Transcript

[Tamara Judge]

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[Dolores]

Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Two T's and a Pod with myself and Dolores. Dolores, where are you?

[Tamara Judge]

I am in Sarasota. I'm in Florida. Okay. I came down for the wine and food show.

[Dolores]

I saw that on Instagram, you know,

[Tamara Judge]

the Jet Dry finish. That's like. Because I'm always, like, doing dishes. So. So we made friends with Jet Dry.

[Dolores]

Oh, nice.

[Tamara Judge]

And they're amazing. And so I flew down and I did a booth with them, and, you know, the whole night. And I decided to bring my dad. He's here with me. Not thinking that we'd be stuck together for another few days because, you know, I really. The weather changes so much. You figure, hey, just go on your trip. Well, now no one can get home. Joe and Melissa are here. They were here for another event. And I have to tell you, there's no flights looking to get home until maybe Friday.

[Dolores]

Like, well, I saw on the. On the Internet that they've canceled tons of flights, all going to New York and surrounding areas.

[Tamara Judge]

So far, there's 10,000 flights that are canceled.

[Dolores]

Did you also hear that they put a ban or. I don't know if it's called a ban and global entry and all that stuff. So it's going to be extra busy. And then plus, on top of that, all the canceled flights, and when you do get a flight, oh, my God, you got to go, like, four hours early.

[Tamara Judge]

You have to go four hours early. So every flight I had to get home was canceled. The. The. The soonest I could get home if I drove four hours to another airport in Sarasota, was. Will be Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. So.

[Dolores]

Well, be happy you're not in Mexico right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Isn't that where Vicki has her place?

[Dolores]

Yes, yes. I'm. I'm texting with her right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, she's there?

[Dolores]

No, she's not there. Thank God she's not there. She says that she's talking with friends that live there, the neighbors, and they said it feels like. Like either being bombed. And she said, thank goodness I wasn't there. So I. I don't know. I feel like this is so scary just across the board.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, it is so scary.

[Dolores]

Every week it's something new that's a problem.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, my dad's. He goes. He's scared. He goes. I'm. He goes, That's a really big problem.

[Dolores]

Yeah, no, it's a huge problem. Vicki was posting that she was in Mexico a couple weeks ago. So. So I just. Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

I just.

[Dolores]

I reached out to her instantly to see if she was okay and how it was going over there, because she's got, you know, obviously she knows friends and neighbors and stuff that she talks to. Just scary stuff. Scary, scary.

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[Dolores]

But let's get into. We have a few headlines here. And it starts. Starts out with Meghan King. Her ex husband got sex workers, according to tmz, to harass her.

[Tamara Judge]

Can you explain this?

[Dolores]

I don't know, but Megan accused her ex Jim of leaking her cell phone to sex workers to harass her years ago.

[Tamara Judge]

Her cell phone number?

[Dolores]

I guess so. How does he know sex workers?

[Tamara Judge]

Was it like. Like, was it people that he hired? Was he frequencing these?

[Dolores]

I don't know. Something.

[Tamara Judge]

What is he giving them?

[Dolores]

I mean, what's the point of that? Just, I guess to harass her. Something. She mentioned two cops while reporting recent harassment. Phone calls threatening her from an unknown number from an unknown person.

[Tamara Judge]

You think it's. And it's an old sex worker that actually is not too busy. Like, honestly, she's thinking it was.

[Dolores]

Jim denies the claim. According to Kirkwood Police Department, Megan told an officer she'd been receiving consistent calls from an unknown person threatening to hurt her and her kids. Megan claimed she was getting the calls for the past two months, but said it gotten increasingly worse over the prior two days. Megan claimed she engaged with the Caller for a bit, but then stopped. She said she blocked the number, but says she keeps using. They keep using new numbers to message her. She even had a couple voicemails. I. I mean, that this is.

[Tamara Judge]

It doesn't sound like somebody that all of a sudden had her number years ago and now all of a sudden wants to start up the calls again. This sounds new, and it could be just somebody strange.

[Dolores]

Yeah, well, Jim denied it all, so this is all alleged, but Queens of Bravo posted breaking news. They said that production on Salt Lake City season seven will begin. Everybody is back, and they will be joined by a new housewife.

[Tamara Judge]

Do we know who?

[Dolores]

No, no. I mean. I mean, Bravo hasn't announced this, but Queens of Bravo usually has correct information.

[Tamara Judge]

You didn't make any phone calls?

[Dolores]

I didn't make any phone calls, no. You know what?

[Tamara Judge]

Surprised. I mean, it's like you have a lot of.

[Dolores]

Yeah. You know who's not in production, and that's Miami, and they have not been in production in a very long time. So I'm not quite sure what's going on there. Have. Did you see any of the Miami girls?

[Tamara Judge]

I did not see any of the Miami girls. I happen to be very busy at the wine and food show and then tried all day yesterday while I was sitting outside last month and said they were filming soon. Oh. Anyway, I didn't hear anything about Miami filming or anything like that, but what I did was, you know, after work, I was literally on the phone for hours yesterday trying to actually get up, get home.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores]

You know, the worst feeling in the world. And then you also. You don't want to, like, push it too far because you don't want to fly when it's not safe.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you don't want to fly when it's not safe. And then you don't want to get stuck at the airport either, when nothing's going to go through.

[Dolores]

So how long is a storm supposed to last?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it's one of the biggest storms in history, number one. So it's supposed to gray. It's a blizzard. It's a blizzard.

[Dolores]

So I'm glad you brought your computer with you so you can do the podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

I almost didn't. I never leave home without it anymore because I know. I bring my. My microphone and I do, too.

[Dolores]

I do, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Because you never know. You never know. So life happens, right? So that's. Yeah, we made it. I'm here.

[Dolores]

So we're gonna. You look great. We're Gonna recap season 10 reunion, part 2 of Potomac this Is this is a good reunion, don't you think?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was really good.

[Dolores]

I mean, they ended on a cliffhanger.

[Tamara Judge]

And what do you think it is? We'll get to that.

[Dolores]

But Monique says you probably won't even be able to show this.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, because she got a cease and desist, didn't she?

[Dolores]

Yeah, she said she did. They didn't really elaborate on it too much. But why do I feel like something has something to do with Stacy and her ex? Evidently. Bravo has released a four minute clip about the the reunion and that situation with what Monique is showing. Do you remember what it said? I can't remember what it said.

[Tamara Judge]

No, it said something about that Stacy told Chris that Monique was filming with their children. Well, wow.

[Dolores]

Why would Stacy do that?

[Tamara Judge]

If Stacy did that, that's so bad. But if she has. Listen, if it doesn't come right from him, then how do we know it's true? Because whoever gave them the information is a third party.

[Dolores]

Well, we don't know if there's like a screenshot or something. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

That could be too. But that could be denied that because of people photoshopping things and stuff. Well, Stacy, if you're getting blamed for doing it, sis, you know you're gonna have to prove you didn't because I'd like to know if that happened.

[Dolores]

Well, we resume the reunion with Wendy and ashley arguing about 67 credit cards. Not six, seven. Six, seven like the kids do, like they were.

[Tamara Judge]

How many do you have? How many do you have?

[Dolores]

I have one.

[Tamara Judge]

I have one.

[Dolores]

I have two. I have two, actually. I have a business credit card and a personal credit card.

[Tamara Judge]

I have one. And I'm trying to think, do I have.

[Dolores]

How does one get 67 credit cards?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you don't. I. You don't want 67 credit cards.

[Dolores]

If you have 67 credit cards, that's a problem. Nobody needs 67 credit cards. And I can't even believe somebody would give them 67 credit cards. There was talk that it was 67 Social Security numbers, but it was actually that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my God. God.

[Dolores]

I mean, if you got 67 Social Security numbers, you're going to jail.

[Tamara Judge]

God forbid. That's what I was just going to say.

[Dolores]

Uhhuh.

[Tamara Judge]

You're in a lot of trouble. Like, that's like.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Now Wendy and Ashley are going at it. Wendy thinks Ashley is full of. Because of what she said at Bravo

[Tamara Judge]

Con that she said she was. She felt bad and she doesn't.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I guess so. She just said she was Full of. I mean, if I were Wendy, I don't think you got to choose your battles right now. Ashley is really the least of her concern. I feel like. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Not Stacy showing. When we. Not Stacy showing Wendy. The text exchange between her and Ashley.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

They are not no one's friends on this show. I really got to be honest with you.

[Dolores]

It's brutal. Like, the things they're talking about.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I think Giselle and Ashley are close.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I think they are. They are. Ashley's still hanging out with Josh. It comes up, and Stacy wasted no time saying, you know, you used him. You humiliated him on camera on purpose. And what did. What did Ashley say? She's like, no, we had to have the conversation. I told him it had to be on camera.

[Tamara Judge]

Stacy held her own. She had some retribution this season. Like, she held her own.

[Dolores]

And I think that's what's confusing to the girls is they know she has this in her. And a lot of times she's just so happy and sweet and doesn't get.

[Tamara Judge]

She's so unbothered by them, but she's still so robotic. Like, she. She doesn't. She doesn't. She. She. She doesn't move her neck. Her whole body moves together. Like.

[Dolores]

Like, remember, she's like a beauty queen.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what we don't see anymore? Remember back in the day, Tamara, we used to see 70s, 80s people walking around. If they hurt their neck, they had a neck brace on.

[Dolores]

Yeah, I need one right now.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't see that anymore. Why do you need it now?

[Dolores]

Oh, I don't know. I think I have a pinched nerve in my neck. I've been having a headache for, like, a month, and it's all down the base of my neck.

[Tamara Judge]

Very painful.

[Dolores]

Very. Is it like a double dull headache every single day for that?

[Tamara Judge]

Could be a little arthritic.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Oh, no. I do have arthritis in my neck.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's what it is.

[Dolores]

So that's what.

[Tamara Judge]

It's very painful.

[Dolores]

It's just getting really bad. And plus, I have sinus issues. Like, so the whole head issue.

[Tamara Judge]

Inflammation. You know what would probably benefit you would be lymphatic drainage massages in your face, maybe around your neck, 100,000%.

[Dolores]

And then Eddie's like, let me. Let me. You need a massage. I'll call somebody. And I know. I'm good. I'm good.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like. He always tries.

[Dolores]

I know. He's like, what is wrong with you? I go, I just. I hate laying there. I think about all the things I have to do. He goes, well, that's part of your problem.

[Tamara Judge]

So we have a lot on our mind. Listen, Housewives, people, you know, filming podcasts, kids, these. Oh, is the house quiet without Sophia?

[Dolores]

Oh, my God. So quiet. It's so quiet. You know, rugby, of course, he's been pretty mellow because he's going in for surgery tomorrow. So he's having that. His back, right leg, the ligaments, and his knee. So they're repairing all that. So he's gonna be. Yep, down and out for three months. Three weeks. I mean, three weeks.

[Tamara Judge]

So I've slept on many floors with my dogs. Not to mention, I have to say, as far as dogs go, I've had at least 12 makeout sessions because people always have their dogs out. I met a Ridgeback this morning. I was on the floor. I was. This dog was so. Oh, my God. And then yesterday, I had a big golden doodle that happened to not want to leave me. His parents almost left him. They had to go. The dog put his butt against me and sat on my foot. I was on the floor. I'm like, I love.

[Dolores]

You're like the dog whisperer.

[Tamara Judge]

I just. They make me happy, Tamara. They make me very happy.

[Dolores]

I love that.

[Tamara Judge]

But, yeah, we'll have to say prayers for rugby.

[Dolores]

Thank you. So speaking of happy, do you think Ashley actually is happy with Josh?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think that Josh is for Ashley. I mean, she was married to a much older man. I think she likes older men.

[Dolores]

And he's young and doesn't have a lot of money.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I mean, Paul's younger than me, but I. I like. I don't like.

[Dolores]

Like, how many years younger is Paul?

[Tamara Judge]

Five.

[Dolores]

Oh, just like Eddie.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, he's like four or five. I'm not gonna push it. I'm gonna say four. Not quite five.

[Dolores]

Eddie's five and a half.

[Tamara Judge]

And that's the person that's the youngest I've ever dated younger than me.

[Dolores]

I didn't even know that. So then Ashley talks about.

[Tamara Judge]

Because I look young.

[Dolores]

You do. You look younger than him. So Ashley talks about the smooch with Jackson, Sharice's son. They went on to say, like, the mother encouraged her son and Ashley to hook up. Like, what.

[Tamara Judge]

Who.

[Dolores]

Who encourages their friend or co worker to date their son?

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so this is what I'm gonna say. So I want to make an apology to Ashley, because when this first was said, I was like, I wouldn't like it if one of my friends did this with my son. And I would never Encourage it. So I had no idea, because when this woman spoke about it when she did the. The tour on it, and even on the Sherri Shepherd Show. Did you see the Sherri Shepherd Show?

[Dolores]

I didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Ashley, no. Who? Cherise. And her son was in the audience.

[Dolores]

Oh, I saw a clip of her son in the audience, and he just kind of. Did he allude that maybe something more happened?

[Tamara Judge]

No, he said he doesn't kiss and tell, so I don't think Ashley told me nothing else happened. It was just a kiss. That's what Ashley told me. So I believe Ashley 120. And there was. And the way I look at it now, it's like, you know, I'm starting to wonder if Sharice used it for.

[Dolores]

For a storyline.

[Tamara Judge]

A storyline More than Ashley.

[Dolores]

Did you hear what angel said? She's. Before you turned it into a storyline. Do you think Ashley brought this up because she needs a storyline?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I don't know. Everybody needs a storyline. Everybody.

[Dolores]

We all need a story. And I hate when people are like, oh, you only did that for a storyline.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, just shut up. And what did you not do for a storyline? Just shut up.

[Dolores]

And it. It's called. I mean, if she kissed one of the housewives or friend of whatever son, you bet your sweet ass that's going to be brought up.

[Tamara Judge]

Exactly.

[Dolores]

You want it to come up or not?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

And he did mention, like, he's 27. It's not like he's 18.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he did say that. And. And, you know, Ashley had a very valid point. So whoever sent Ashley the clip of me saying something about it in the first place, send them this now. Okay, Whoever.

[Dolores]

Oh, wait, somebody said wants to take

[Tamara Judge]

the time to do that.

[Dolores]

She get mad at you? Did you talk to her?

[Tamara Judge]

She. I spoke to her about it and I said, listen, if. If I was wrong, I'll. I'll publicly apologize for saying that you did something that you didn't do that, you know, I spoke about. And she's like, no, that's not it. But, you know, I thought we were friends. So I have to say, number one, I'm going to say that now that I've heard it on the other end, if the mother encouraged it, what was.

[Dolores]

So that's where this podcast gets tricky, because we are actually recapping on what we see as viewers, not as friends of some of these housewives.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. But, you know, the. I think that maybe the way I said it at the time, I mean, I was in my mode of talking. Listen, I say What I say, stand by what I say. I'll tell you that right now. But I'm going to say now I'm standing behind Ashley with this because the woman sharees you didn't have a problem when she told you in the first

[Dolores]

place and then later on you have a problem so bad when that happened.

[Tamara Judge]

That's kind of bugging me. Unless you were a little bit shocked and whatever. But why would you be shocked if you're calling her your daughter in law after she gets divorced? Like don't kid around like that. If you're not okay with it, don't kid around like that.

[Dolores]

So it sounds like it was made into a bigger deal than it actually was.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was okay with everybody until it went public and then it kind of wasn't okay.

[Dolores]

Well, as she brought the COVID of her new children's book she's writing, so she had a picture of the COVID She wants to continue to write more in her post divorce era.

[Tamara Judge]

I think every little bit that people can talk about or help with kids going through a divorce is wonderful and so do I. She experienced it and she was always worried about what about her children through all this. I mean she, I think she really loved Michael. I think she really did. She really cried over him. I mean I never got that why she loved him so much. But who am I saying? But you know, when she went to visit Uncle Lump and his wife, her aunt, she cried. And I felt that for her that time. So I think that she is absolutely a credible person to write about kids who have gone through divorce because she's gone through them with her children. She's gone through it.

[Dolores]

I encourage Sophia to write a book about the kids point of view of divorce and parental alienation and talking badly about a parent to try to persuade them and what that feels like as a kid as you're growing up hearing horrible things about your other parent.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she absolutely should. And I, and I, because it affected

[Dolores]

her, it affected all my kids. I think different ways.

[Tamara Judge]

Every kid, yeah, of course, every kid goes. Handles things differently. But I think hearing it from a kid that went through it and I've often asked my kids, you know, how did you feel? What could I have done different? Because someone I have counseled people, they'll ask me how did you do it? How were you able to forgive Frank? Or how did you keep the family together? And I say to the kids, sometimes I'll make the man or the person for myself to say, look, you're, you're going to Be okay. The kids will be okay. So I'm, you know, I'm happy where Ashley's at in her life. She's got her divorce out of the way, she looks hot as always, kids are thriving and she's co parenting.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Now, K

[Tamara Judge]

better get on her step about not wasting her youth on a guy, but let's talk about that.

[Dolores]

Well, what'd you think about when she pulls something from behind the pillow and it's the frame? I didn't quite see what was written in the frame. This scene kind of fell flat for me.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it did fall flat, period.

[Dolores]

Yeah. I mean, getting a frame from a jewelry store where you're expecting to get a ring with. When your guy is shopping for a ring on camera and you're left with

[Tamara Judge]

a freaking photo frame and you bring the frame back. So you know what? I think that was because, you know, these housewives are now studying the show and they're studying how things get edited and that I don't like that K did. Now, Kay, I'll stick up for you.

[Dolores]

Studying Salt Lake City is how you're saying with the.

[Tamara Judge]

No, but I'm saying, like pulling out something from behind the pillow and it not being like, so. So right. Profound.

[Dolores]

Right?

[Tamara Judge]

It's. You wanted that. You wanted that scene. See, that makes viewers mad, and that makes me kind of mad because it's. It's worse than not doing. It falls flat.

[Dolores]

It just falls flat. And I think she was trying to prove to the viewers that I got this frame. And I love frames. I'll tell you one thing. If I. If I knew that he was going shopping for a ring for me and he comes back with a damn frame. Keep your damn frame. Keep your damn frame.

[Tamara Judge]

Where's my father? Dad, where'd you go? Come here one second. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna show you. And. And I stand with Kay's mom saying, I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed with this. You know, K, women get old real quick. Time goes by. Time waits for no one. K, I don't want to see you waste time on somebody who doesn't give you what you want. Dad, what happened when Frank Catania came to the house and said that he wants. That he was buying a house

[Dolores]

and

[Tamara Judge]

he wanted me to move in or that. That he didn't even say, I wanted you to move in. What did you say? Don't put. What. Don't be dramatic about it. Just tell them. Come here. Come here. I told him I wasn't happy. You know, but I, I wanted, you know, you said, don't put the cart before the horse. That's. That's the thing. So that's what I was asking you to do. Like, don't put the cart before the horse. He got you all this stuff. It's the same stuff he could get you after he makes a commitment. That's exactly right.

[Dolores]

Bye, Dad. I just, even Giselle was, like, confused. And I, I love Giselle's expressions and the eye rolls and the head shakes. Like, you know, she wants to say so much more, but she says it with her face without even saying a damn.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm surprised she holds back, because Giselle does not hold back.

[Dolores]

I know. Now Jazzy joins the crew. Andy asked where she and Kate stand currently, and this was so weird. So K ignored Jazzy on the train. And I'm assuming this is the train to the reunion. Did they take a train and.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it's not that far from the, from the subway.

[Dolores]

Is it a subway that we're talking about? Like, they're in New York, they're on the subway.

[Tamara Judge]

Is that what you call a train?

[Dolores]

I don't know. I have no idea.

[Tamara Judge]

Anyway, it's like four hours from. It's not worth flying to New York.

[Dolores]

Gotcha. Okay, so Maryland is floor for.

[Tamara Judge]

Potomac is four hours from New York.

[Dolores]

Well, Kay says she didn't recognize her. She didn't recognize Jazzy. Jazzy tells K that she can just talk about how she stole Greg from his wife and is now raising his children. Everybody's face.

[Tamara Judge]

I never seen any kid. Did I miss something? I've never seen kids involved in this relationship.

[Dolores]

I haven't either. I. Jazzy, to me, was just a little bit of a try hard vibe. It doesn't seem like any of the ladies truly like her.

[Tamara Judge]

Jazzy? Yeah, nobody. Here's what the thing is. I, I didn't feel I got the same energy from the ladies for Jazzy as I got for Monique. Like.

[Dolores]

Right, right, Absolutely.

[Tamara Judge]

So when, here's the thing, when somebody's doing something that they like, they jump on it. When somebody's doing something that they don't like, they're not going to give her the show.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Well, that's the thing about the reunion that's really upsetting is that anybody can make up any lie, put it on there, and it's out there. And Kay wasn't having it. So she posts after the reunion. The allegations from tonight's episode crossed a line and warrants a response. For clarity. I met Greg during CIAA weekend in 2022. His divorce had already been finalized. The timeline is fractal, factual, and verifiable. There was no overlap. We take the protection of our family seriously. False claims that impact our family, especially where children are concerned, are unacceptable and have consequences. Reality television invites commentary. It does not justify misinformation or fabricated narrative. Repeating a claim does not make it true. Facts do not change to fit storyline. I will not engage in performative conflict. I will.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you won't.

[Dolores]

I know, right? I am not a bench you can ride. The record is clear.

[Tamara Judge]

So that I never heard that saying before. What does that mean, bench you can ride?

[Dolores]

I don't know. I've never heard of it before in my life. I'm not a bench you can ride.

[Tamara Judge]

And k. So you're dating this man. He will not give you a ring. He'll buy you everything, and you're helping raise his kids. Is that what I'm reading here? You're saying our family.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. When you're get the ring or get out. When you're too good, you're no good.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And that's the thing. Nk you are not officially family, hon. He did not make that official.

[Dolores]

It's not official yet. So.

[Tamara Judge]

So, I mean, I only say that because of her age. If she was older,

[Dolores]

right.

[Tamara Judge]

If I had not had. If she had already had her children, I would be on have singing a totally different tune right now. If she wants children, I don't want her to lose that chance.

[Dolores]

We just don't want her to waste her time. Yeah, she's waste her eggs, pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't waste your pretty girl.

[Dolores]

No. So now we take a look into Tia's first season. Tia claims that verbal abuse is her love language, and she and her husband tease each other. Me and Eddie tease each other, too. And if somebody didn't know, you'd think, oh, geez. Tia's husband, she said, did not like being referred to as the nanny. I don't think any husband would. And then she kind of covered it up, was like, ah, we're both nannies.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't see him. Do we know him? No.

[Dolores]

And I think that that was brought up that we don't get to see him very often. But Andy brings up Tia's relationship with her half sister. Tia gets emotional, explained how important it was. Tia says to Jazzy, you're a friend of, but you're a friend of nobody here.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, can I just.

[Dolores]

At your job.

[Tamara Judge]

Can I just say. Can we go back to the sister relationship? Yeah, she's Having a lot. She's living with a lot of guilt because her dad really wanted them together when he was alive. And it was. And Tia didn't want him because I think she was a product of an affair or something. Or the sister.

[Dolores]

He had another divorce and I think he moved on. And she's got a half sister and that's who she went to go visit the house with.

[Tamara Judge]

Correct. So what her thing is, she's so close with this woman now. Right. And she's like. And this is. I was looking like. And I'm saying to myself, if you have all this guilt that you didn't do this when your dad was alive, but you're doing it and you're enjoying this. Like, it's. I think it's an example for people to see. If you have a case like that, don't wait for your. Your, Your parent to pass away before you give them that. Because if you're going to feel guilty about that. Yeah, it's. I would. I mean, there's a lot of different ways you can look at this. I don't have that situation. But if you do, when you're in that situation, I want you to. There's nothing worse than living with guilt. So.

[Dolores]

No, I agree 100%. Now, Tia said shots fired. Jazzy's husband didn't have a job and took $150,000 out here.

[Tamara Judge]

Tia's filling the dirt. She told her. She said she told her. Jazzy told her off camera.

[Dolores]

I don't think I would say that, though.

[Tamara Judge]

Guys, take note. T it. T is gonna. If you tell something tea in confidence off camera.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Just so you know.

[Dolores]

I mean, if I were talking offline, you know, behind the scenes, and you say something like that, my husband, you know, like.

[Tamara Judge]

But Jazzy drew first blood. Jazzy just. If Jazzy, you know, is making fun of Tia's husband, that's why Tia said it then.

[Dolores]

True.

[Tamara Judge]

Don't be surprised when she says it. Touche. But. And then she was surprised and she was embarrassed. Did you see that?

[Dolores]

Yeah. Yeah. And then in other news, all the girls agree with Stacy that Jazzy secretly records phone calls. And they just kind of skipped over it. Like, I want more information. Like, you know, when you're on the phone and there's that new. It's not that new anymore, but you can push a button and it says, this call is being recorded.

[Tamara Judge]

It happened one time on accident to me, my cheek hit the phone and it said that, and I wanted to die because the person I was talking to Would, you know, was probably thinking, like, what the.

[Dolores]

It happened to me. Not, I didn't do it. Somebody else did it. And I'm like. I almost wanted to hang up. Like, what is going on here? Why are you doing this? So, yeah, so the girls are just. They're not happy that Jazzy Secret records them, but we didn't really get that deep into.

[Tamara Judge]

Could have been an accident and a fluke.

[Dolores]

Well, it sounds like it's happened more than one time.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's not a fluke or an accident.

[Dolores]

I've never done it to anybody else. So I, I.

[Tamara Judge]

It didn't happen to me more than once, but it can. If it happened once, it can happen again. This is the thing. Maybe an eyelash hit it or something on Jazz. I don't know.

[Dolores]

Well, then we get on to Giselle, and she tears up, explaining her father's will. The judge sided with her father's wife, so she will. The wife will be the benefactor beneficiary. So it looks like, according to the. Yeah. He married his wife in 2003, and they were married until he passed away in 2023. So they were married 20 years. So I would imagine anything that's in that will.

[Tamara Judge]

What's the beef between her and her stepmom? Just curious. Do we know?

[Dolores]

I don't know, but she doesn't seem like she cares for her too much. And I could see, like, okay, you're a stepmom. You have, you know, he had grandchildren and a daughter.

[Tamara Judge]

Very prominent civil rights figure. There's a part being named after him.

[Dolores]

I think it's just sad that nothing was given to the grandchildren or to.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, of course. Of course. That's a hard thing. And it's. And it's a tale as old as time. It happens more often than not.

[Dolores]

Yeah. I mean, they're. Even the city of Houston is building a park in honor of her father.

[Tamara Judge]

That's so amazing.

[Dolores]

I'm hoping she can work something proud of. Hopefully, she can work something out with this woman and they can get some of his belongings.

[Tamara Judge]

Typically, I just want to say, typically, in cases like this, if it came to this already and it had to go to court, they probably won't be getting anything if they had. I think, yeah, they went to court. The. The stepmom won. The. Won the. Whatever the judgment, and it's done. Yeah. So really good chance. But you know what, Giselle? Were you not talking to your dad? Were you not able to get that stuff before he passed?

[Dolores]

I think what happened was, if I remember Correctly. Like, the will was changed after he got sick.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, it breaks families up.

[Dolores]

It does.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a terrible, terrible thing. Can I say one thing? I have to tell you really quick story. So I was very frazzled on my way to. From Miami to. I. I landed in Fort Lauderdale. I did a couple of podcasts. I was in three different Ubers. I was getting hair and makeup, everything, everything. And I had a wallet with a bunch of cash in it. And it's like, you know, you have your money and you save it and you save it and you have like couple hundred at the end of the day and you throw it in a thing. And so I didn't even count how much it was, but it was a significant amount of my little, like, pocket change that I've saved. I was like, kind of putting away for the day of Frankie's wedding, when you have to tip people, you know.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I was going to, like, help him out with that stuff. And I left it in the Uber. No, earlier in the day. And I didn't realize it till I Finally, at 11 o' clock at night, from traveling all day and all that stuff going on, we did our podcast. We did buy order of the Faithfuls with Wells. When I finally got to the hotel at 11 o' clock at night, I realized not only that, I had a blank check from my business account in there.

[Dolores]

Oh, so it's gone?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I called the bank. Bank wouldn't cancel my account. I did everything and I started to call the Uber drivers. There's an app on Lyft where you can call the drivers. I didn't even know how to get to the first driver from the day. Who's that? What it was. I was sick to my stomach. My father was upset. I was throwing stuff around the lobby at the hotel. You know that feeling, it's horrible. My face was numb, my chest started to hurt, and finally I pulled my shit together and I go, well, what can I do? There's nothing I can do about it. And I get a call on the phone back from the Uber driver and he says, you just got. You just lost it in the right car today. I have your wallet.

[Dolores]

And everything was in it.

[Tamara Judge]

Everything was in it.

[Dolores]

Oh, bless him for being a good person.

[Tamara Judge]

Byron, thank you very, very.

[Dolores]

Oh, my goodness.

[Tamara Judge]

He's actually a promoter. He's doing a. He's doing a show in the Cayman Islands with Robin Thick.

[Dolores]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

He's got a bunch of people coming to sing. So when he didn't invite me, but when that Happens I will promote it for him. We're gonna have to talk about this because he not only did he give me back my wallet, he drove over an hour to give it back to me. Wow. Yes. I gave him a very, very good reward.

[Dolores]

Good for him.

[Tamara Judge]

But I want to thank him very much.

[Dolores]

That's incredible.

[Tamara Judge]

Byron, you're the man.

[Dolores]

Still good people out there. Well, speaking of good people, Monique joins the group. Monique was in the same studio five years ago at her first reunion. And Monique, you know what? She ain't playing. She brought her binder back this year.

[Tamara Judge]

The binders never really do anything, do they? Well, well, this is from the show was the binder.

[Dolores]

I feel like the reunion goes by so fast. If you have a binder and you have to have all these tabs and they're not going to wait around for all that.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, first of all, binder with fucking tabs. There is. There is. I'm just not that organized.

[Dolores]

But I guess Monique's binder is the most iconic binder of all time. Andy was. Why is that?

[Tamara Judge]

Tell me. Because there's been some. There was the burn book from Monica Garc.

[Dolores]

The. I don't think she was on long enough. I don't know. I don't know what the thing with the situation was that. But he brought that. She brought it and he held it. He was. Let me have that. He was.

[Tamara Judge]

He said, it's too hot. He goes, it's too hot for me to handle.

[Dolores]

It has major receipts in it.

[Tamara Judge]

Major. Can you explain to me Giselle's ex

[Dolores]

husband and things like that? And I'm shocked that she kept it, like, if I was off the show.

[Tamara Judge]

She kept it all these hours, high ticket item.

[Dolores]

And then she never thought she'd come back because she was asked to be on Ultimate Girls Trip this season. I was on season two at Bluestone Manor, and she passed. She said no to her. Wasn't ready for it.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what she said? I was working on myself after my marriage. She goes. He goes, so how'd you work on herself yourself? Andy said. And she goes, well, I started by losing £350.

[Dolores]

Yeah, that helps. That was a good one.

[Tamara Judge]

Let me tell you. I like Monique. I like how she handles things. I know I don't like a binder with receipts, but.

[Dolores]

Well, I think she was much different back then. She was more.

[Tamara Judge]

Can I just say one thing? When that binder came out, everybody on the couch shit themselves.

[Dolores]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

So I don't know much about that binder.

[Dolores]

See, I don't Either. I don't know. Was the binder revealed? Were things in the binder revealed when she brought it the first time?

[Tamara Judge]

I just find that Andy's never big on. Andy's never really big on when people bring like shit to the reunion. Unless it's, like, really good, he's not interested. It's got to be really good. And he gave this book like it was the bible of binders, and it was like he held it with honor.

[Dolores]

Well, he should put it in the clubhouse. He needs that binder in the clubhouse. All right, so do you remember what was in the binder? What was revealed? I know that it was an issue between Giselle and Monique. And there was. I mean, you remember when Monique came back, Giselle was, like, standoffish.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Giselle was very standoffish. But, I mean, we know Giselle would have did the same thing, because what was in that binder was pictures of receipts that Giselle's husband was texting to Monique or whoever. Whatever it was, it was legitimate proof. And Giselle did not deny it when it was showed to her at the reunion. That couldn't have been easy.

[Dolores]

And, well, Monique's the receipt queen because she brought another receipt at the end that we talked about. And we don't really know what the actual picture she shows or text message

[Tamara Judge]

or whatever to the binder.

[Dolores]

She's gonna. She needs to add that to her binder.

[Tamara Judge]

So what. What do you think it is?

[Dolores]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to know. It's got to be something to do with Stacy.

[Dolores]

Well, wait. We. I think they did say it was something to do with Stacy and her ex husband.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, okay.

[Dolores]

So, yes, Monique's got receipts. She's got receipts. She's going to show it.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I want.

[Dolores]

There is a.

[Tamara Judge]

If you want to bring something up, then show me the proof.

[Dolores]

But it's not entirely clear. We don't know what is blurred out, but I don't know. Then we move on to Andy.

[Tamara Judge]

That's good. Hey, guys.

[Dolores]

It's good.

[Tamara Judge]

Good reunion.

[Dolores]

It's really good. Andy asked Monique if she still sees a lot of similarities between her old marriage and Angel's current marriage with Bobby. Now, Chris and Bobby have one thing in common. They're both former football players. Other than that, I see zero similarities to them. Bobby didn't do anything crazy or wild this season. I think Tia even said, like, when he was around, he was amazing. I feel like either they know something that hasn't been exposed or they're trying to make something out of nothing.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'll tell you, Bobby's mad about.

[Dolores]

I would be mad too. The guy does nothing he's getting blamed for.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

And a bad husband.

[Tamara Judge]

And he also was. I found him. First of all. We saw. Mostly. He's the only husband we saw all season. And when we did see him, he

[Dolores]

was like cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids.

[Tamara Judge]

He was constantly. Exactly. And. And he was listening to her about how the girls were treating her and he. He handled it like a gentleman. Except for when he left them hanging in the car and none of those guys got up. That only tells me that Bobby might resent the rest of the girls for the way they treat his wife.

[Dolores]

Yeah, no, I agree with that.

[Tamara Judge]

Which would make sense.

[Dolores]

Well, angel did say like, she's like, I wish that I was more bubbly in my fun self and I wasn't this entire season. I wish you guys could have seen that. I don't know that she's going to be back. I don't know that she fits in in this group. I think she's lovely. I like her a lot, but I just don't know. She's very lovely. I just. It's not this TV stuff. Reality is not for everybody.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not for.

[Dolores]

Doesn't mean you're a bad person. It's just. I don't. I just don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Here's what I want to say to her. You have a beautiful life.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Beautiful children, friends outside of this. A husband that loves you so much. What are you fighting for this for? What are you fighting?

[Dolores]

Yeah, I mean, she just seems so sad and miserable and everything she did was a disaster in the.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I just.

[Dolores]

Like in the cast.

[Tamara Judge]

It even affected her business.

[Dolores]

I mean, they came after. Yeah, they come after a business. They came after her husband. It's like for a first season, I'd be, fuck this, angel.

[Tamara Judge]

This ain't your life. Without this, you don't need it. Like, if you don't need it, don't do it.

[Dolores]

Yes. Andy wants to confirm a. Stacy had a fling with Chris. Stacey claims that she has never been on a one on one date with him.

[Tamara Judge]

She said she was. She said it on the producers cameras. She said it on the girls trip. And Ashley reminded her.

[Dolores]

Do you think?

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores]

And I just feel like sometimes we don't always get the straight truth from Stacy. She kind of dances around it. But we did see that footage from the. The. They're like cameras that are on the walls.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

Sometimes we do the trips and stuff.

[Tamara Judge]

Let Me tell you, that's how they caught bolo, all that stuff. Remember?

[Dolores]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, watch out. A hot. It's a hot mic. You know, you're so tired. It's the end of the day. You. They're, you know, you're filming. It's. You're filming till three in the morning. They wind you up at like seven or eight, and then you're going all day. And the fighting on the girls trips, and there's deep that comes out and you're gonna talk. Sometimes you say things. So you always got to be careful of those mindful.

[Dolores]

Those hidden cameras.

[Tamara Judge]

Cameras don't.

[Dolores]

They're not really hidden. You can see them on the wall.

[Tamara Judge]

They're not hidden.

[Dolores]

They're not.

[Tamara Judge]

The fact that you. You don't. You're going to talk like they're not there. But I don't think Stacy thought anything about what she was saying at the time.

[Dolores]

We don't have a lot of those cameras.

[Tamara Judge]

We do.

[Dolores]

The first time I experienced that was the ultimate girls trip at Dorinda's house. They were in the hall.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't have them. We've always had them on a girls trip.

[Dolores]

Never the whole house going full.

[Tamara Judge]

Full time, all the time.

[Dolores]

Yeah, because you don't know. But here's my question. If Monique says she doesn't care that Stacy had a fling with Chris, then why did they drag this out all season long?

[Tamara Judge]

Monique didn't care that Stacey had a fling with Chris, nor should she. They're done. They're past. And she's really not that close with Stacey, is she?

[Dolores]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so there's no love lost there. But what she should care about is going back and repeating girls talk. Especially when you say it's not like she's best friends with Chris. It's not like Tara Lipinski and Johnny skating away together. Like those two are going to tell each other what's being said behind their back. But if you're not that close with Chris, if you're not, it's not that big of a deal. You probably shouldn't go out of your way to tell them what a bunch of women are talking about. Don't be that girl.

[Dolores]

Do you think it was more about proving that Stacy was lying about it? I think the cast is so, like, over her little white lies all the time or dancing around the truth or whatever that they just wanted to show Stacy was lying, that she did have something going on with Chris.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, yeah. Well, I think it was more about who told Chris what was being said.

[Dolores]

Do you think Stacy told Chris? Because if Stacy felt comfortable enough to text somebody, we don't know who was blurred.

[Tamara Judge]

If Stacy told him that Monique was potentially filming with the kids.

[Dolores]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Then why would she have not told them something less?

[Dolores]

In California, you can't film with the kids unless you have both parents signature. But it's not like that.

[Tamara Judge]

No, that's everywhere.

[Dolores]

Is it like that everywhere?

[Tamara Judge]

Unless the kid's 18?

[Dolores]

Yeah. I knew in California it was that way.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of there are some housewives in the past that did not get casted because they were divorced and both parents wouldn't sign off on the kids.

[Dolores]

Well, we're left with a cliffhanger of Monique showing the group something on her phone. Monique, I know you won't be able

[Tamara Judge]

to show this, so, Monique, I have a feeling this is going to be more groundbreaking than somebody pulling a frame that we already saw behind a pillow.

[Dolores]

Yeah. So I reached out on social media and asked for some fan thoughts. So I have a few fan thoughts.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I want to hear.

[Dolores]

I get excited with the fan thoughts.

[Tamara Judge]

So we love our fans.

[Dolores]

So somebody wrote Wendy was quiet and Jazzy needs to go. Somebody wrote Wendy broke the law. Why is that not being talked about more? I think it's going to be talked about more.

[Tamara Judge]

It's still under investigation.

[Dolores]

Yeah. But I think I'm part three because I remember Andy saying, we're going to get back to this.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores]

We're talking about Wendy. Ashley has become unenjoyable to watch. She's so nasty, entitled, and delulu. So of course these are fan thoughts, people. Jazzy can go away constantly screaming. Doesn't mean you're making sense. Another one wrote Jazzy.

[Tamara Judge]

I think. What? But Ashley's doing her job. Why is it okay for Giselle to be ripping too?

[Dolores]

Like, do you know how the fans are? Like, as soon as you start acting up, people are like, she needs to go. She's horrible.

[Tamara Judge]

No. The fans are a lot of times mad at Ashley all the time.

[Dolores]

Are they?

[Tamara Judge]

I've. I've kind of been reading that. It's what I see.

[Dolores]

And then Jazzy felt like she was trying to have a moment, and it fell flat for me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Wasn't good.

[Dolores]

Kind of did. I think we said that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores]

Yeah. Well, that's all we have for part two of the reunion. We have one more episode to go, and then we say bye bye to Potomac. So next week we have Karen joining the the cast on the couch, and she is sitting right next to Andy.

[Tamara Judge]

The Grand Dom is back.

[Dolores]

She's back. She's back in the mix. So, yeah, thought it was great. And thanks, guys, for tuning in, and we'll see you next week.

[Tamara Judge]

Next week's a big deal. So. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.