Dear Karen (RHOP Recap)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Dear Karen (RHOP Recap)
Date: October 6, 2025
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode features Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recapping the dramatic season premiere of The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP). The duo dives into the fallout from Karen’s absence due to her DUI conviction and imprisonment, the introduction of two new Housewives, early cast conflicts, and fresh shade being thrown right from the start. As experienced Housewives themselves, Teddi and Tamra break down dynamics, cast shake-ups, controversies, and deliver their signature blend of humor, insight, and brutally honest commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Catching Up: Real-Life Updates (04:03–05:55)

• Tamra’s trip to New York: She shares stories about her daughter Sophia's birthday trip, expressing pride and noting Sophia wants to move to New York.
• Dinner with Housewives: Tamra had dinner with Dolores and Dorinda (who is now DJing)—they kept it light, mostly avoiding Housewives drama.

RHOP New Season Overview (05:55–06:55)

• Cast shake-ups:
  • Mia is out, having moved to Atlanta (amid being caught in multiple “fibs”).
  • Karen is absent due to a DUI conviction and prison sentence.
  • “There's a lot of fibbing going on in this show. There's a lot of fibbers.” – Tamra (06:26)
• Reaction to Karen’s prison storyline:
  • Both agree it’s wild the show has gotten to this point, with a major cast member missing for legal reasons.

Meet the Newbies: Tia Glover & Angel (07:20–08:57)

• Tia Glover: Described as a “British Nigerian expat, upper crust, classy but witty.” The ladies predict her accent will allow her to throw shade elegantly.
• Angel: Co-founder of a luxury outfitter, recently moved back to Potomac with her former NFL player husband; introduced through Kiana.

The "Dear Karen" Motif & Karen's Absence (09:03–11:02)

• The episode uses flash-forwards and letters from the cast to keep Karen “present.”
• Giselle writes Karen a dramatic letter:
  • “‘Dear Karen, there's not a day that doesn't go by that I don't think about you. But life goes on.’” – (09:59)
• They expect Karen will only return near the end of the season, possibly as a “friend” rather than a main cast member.

Opening Drama: Giselle’s House & Stacy’s Scandals (11:08–13:34)

• Giselle hosts a gathering where Karen’s absence is discussed.
• Ashley brings up Stacy’s drama: T.J.—her alleged fake boyfriend—says she paid him to be on the show.
  • “When somebody says, ‘I'm standing in my truth,’ those words bother me so.” – Tamra (11:46)
• The hosts mock the phrase “living my truth” and call out cast members for dodging direct questions.

Stacy vs. The Group: Lawsuit & Ex Relationships (13:34–15:08)

• Stacy is getting sued by T.J. over her promise to give him half her Housewives paycheck. The panel is shocked at the claim.
  • “50%. That means you made nothing”—discussion on the reality of first-season Housewives paychecks.
• Stacy’s vague answers and word-salad communication frustrate Teddi and Tamra.
• Later, Stacy is shown reuniting with her ex-husband, with both hosts speculating she always wanted to get back with him and only needed T.J. for the cameras.
  • “TJ’s a paid actor.” – Teddi (16:42)
  • “He seems like he's a good backseat… not getting involved.” – Tamra on Stacy’s ex (16:45)

Kiara & Greg’s Relationship Drama (17:17–24:53)

• Kiara’s family scene: Conversation with her mother, discussion of her break-up and makeup cycle with Greg, and her mother’s skepticism.
• Teddi and Tamra agree Kiara deserves better; her boyfriend’s dislike of her filming is a red flag.
• Discussion on Housewives confessionals and staging: Kiara breaking format by staring directly into the camera, and wearing oversized tiaras.
  • “Could you imagine wearing that… for six hours?” – Tamra (26:05)

Wendy & Eddie’s Family Segment (26:29–27:24)

• The Osefo family discusses their cannabis business growth; their son wants to work at Chick-fil-A instead.
• Brief mention of business wisdom, with Tamra reflecting on her own first-mover CBD brand.

Ashley’s Divorce Party & More Stacy Mysteries (27:51–32:12)

• Ashley and Stacy shop for the divorce party; Ashley pushes Stacy on her lawsuits and drama.
• Teddi and Tamra both note Stacy’s refusal to answer, suggesting she's either a skilled liar or trained at deflecting from QVC.
  • “What is she going to say? ‘Yeah, I paid him?’” – Teddi (29:13)
• “If she's lying about [being divorced]... I’m never going to like her. I hate liars.” – Tamra (31:37)

The Infamous “Stacy’s Breath” Segment (35:01–37:13)

• At the “Bloom Ball,” multiple Housewives on- and off-camera openly shade Stacy’s bad breath.
• “I would be mortified, embarrassed, humiliated.” – Tamra (35:44)
• Banter about how to tactfully (or not) offer mints; confessions that bad breath is a universal struggle.

Other Early Episode Feuds (37:17–41:47)

• Kiarna and Wendy’s awkward “didn’t acknowledge me at a public event” fight is roasted as the season’s dumbest.
  • “This is the type of shit I hate. Bringing up stuff just to bring up stuff.” – Tamra (38:12)
• The panel expects this will escalate, though they question if there’s more to it.

Fashion & Production Notes (46:20–49:38)

• Both hosts are amazed and amused by the cast’s over-the-top confessional and party outfits (tiaras, shoulder pads, bright colors).
• Inside scoop: new producers at RHOP are making sure a group event happens almost every episode for better drama.

What’s Next for the Season? (46:26–end)

• Monique and Jazzy will both return as “friends” later in the season.
• Teddi and Tamra are looking forward to more drama, anticipate more revelations about Stacy, and tease upcoming issues between Wendy and her husband (per previews).
• “Spirit of Karen and the breath of Stacy… What a great episode.” – Tamra (50:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There's a lot of fibbers. You know, I wouldn't do well on this cast because you know how fibbing just. Oh, yeah, the shit about out of me.” – Tamra, on RHOP’s ‘fibs’ culture (06:26)
• “Could you imagine? This is Housewives. This is what it’s breaking down to... When so and so gets out of prison, we’ll see how she looks without her hair extensions and no makeup.” – Teddi & Tamra on Karen’s prison storyline (06:55)
• “When somebody says, ‘I’m standing in my truth,’ those words bother me so.” – Tamra (11:46)
• “If that’s true, I have absolutely not a word.” – Teddi on Stacy giving 50% of her contract to T.J. (13:47)
• “She does not answer a question to save her life.” – Teddi on Stacy (13:07)
• “She looks stunning... her skin looks so beautiful.” – Tamra, on Dorinda’s new DJ era (05:50)
• “I mean, the insults, Kiana, you couldn’t squeeze a tear out of those BDI’s.” – Tamra (14:31)
• “Could you imagine wearing that [tiara] for six hours?” – Tamra on RHOP confessional outfits (26:05)
• “Spirit of Karen and the breath of Stacy. What a great episode.” – Tamra (50:08)
• “If she's lying about [her divorce]... I’m never going to like her. I hate liars. I want to karate chop them to the Adam's apple.” – Tamra (31:37)
• “Smelly Stacy. Don't be back in third grade!” – Teddy & Tamra (41:04)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Catching up, NY stories & Dorinda’s DJ career: 04:03–05:55
• RHOP season overview, Karen’s absence, new cast: 05:55–09:03
• ‘Dear Karen’ motif & predictions: 09:03–11:02
• Housewives gathering & Stacy's controversies: 11:08–13:34
• Stacy, T.J., lawsuit drama: 13:34–15:08
• Kiana & Greg relationship drama, confessionals: 17:17–24:53
• Wendy & Eddie’s family business: 26:29–27:24
• Ashley’s divorce party, Stacy’s denials: 27:51–32:12
• The “Stacy’s Breath” segment: 35:01–37:13
• Kiarna vs. Wendy’s pointless fight: 37:17–41:47
• Fashion & production insights: 46:20–49:38
• Season predictions, wrap-up banter: 46:26–end

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Tone & Style

The discussion is candid, irreverent, and laden with Housewives-savvy inside jokes. Teddi and Tamra mix genuine amusement, veteran reality TV analysis, and playful snark. Joking about confessional attire, dramatic absences, and gossip culture, they repeatedly invite listeners to share their disbelief or “secondhand embarrassment,” while also highlighting production tricks and the nuances of navigating the Housewives world.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll come away understanding:

• Why Karen is (and isn’t) on the season, and how her legal issues shape the show
• Who the new cast members are, and who’s out
• The controversies around Stacy and her allegedly staged relationship and lawsuit from T.J.
• The group’s early-season dynamics, including a “stupidest ever” fight and the infamous “bad breath” shade toward Stacy
• How production and fashion choices play a bigger role than ever, and what to expect from the season ahead—including surprise returns and more secrets bubbling up soon

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Final words:
“Spirit of Karen and the breath of Stacy… What a great episode.” (50:08)

Transcript

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In a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod With Myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Good morning, Teddy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, Tam.

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[Tamara Judge]

How are you doing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm doing pretty good. How are you?

[Tamara Judge]

I'm good. Got back from New York on Sunday.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And just trying to catch up. Had the best time ever. Probably the longest time I've ever spent in New York because I extended the stay because of Sophia's birthday.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Did she love it?

[Tamara Judge]

She loved it. She's like all ready to move. They're. I mean, they had so much fun. They went to a jazz club, they went vintage shopping, they went to the museums. And they just. Both of them, her and her boyfriend just love New York. So they're like, I can't wait to move. I want to move.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I love that. That's so fun so far.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. No, I'm excited. I think that's her vibe.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think so, too. And then you had dinner. Who all did you have dinner with?

[Tamara Judge]

I had dinner with Dolores and Dorinda, and my friend Jackie went with me. So the four of us. It was nice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was nice.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you learn any good tea?

[Tamara Judge]

No, not really. We didn't really talk about housewives. You know what I mean?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

We were just talking about catching up on what's going on and stuff like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Everybody's life. I found. Oh, I did find out that Dorinda's a DJ now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She is?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What she has.

[Tamara Judge]

She she's been DJing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm all, how come I've never seen this? And she was talking about some of the. Like, Candy came and saw her DJ the other night and stuff. I'm like, oh, my God, that is so cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she's going, she's having fun.

[Tamara Judge]

She's having fun. She looks great.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. The picture. She looks stunning.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Beautiful. Her skin looks so beautiful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love that some new faces, new faces and faces that we didn't see because there were some things I needed to remind myself of. I had to, like, go back and watch some of the reunion from last year because I couldn't really remember exactly what happened. But Mia's gone. She announced her departure in April 2025 because she relocated to Atlanta is what she was saying. But also, I think the women caught her in a bunch of fibs.

[Tamara Judge]

There's a lot of fibbing going on in this show. There's a lot of fibbers.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's a lot of fibers.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I wouldn't do well on this cast because you know how fibbing just. Oh, yeah, the shit about out of me. It's almost as bad as hearing somebody eat.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Almost as bad.

[Tamara Judge]

Almost as bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's hilarious. And then in this first episode, you know, we don't see Karen because due to her DUI conviction and subsequent prison sentence, she is not there.

[Tamara Judge]

Just the fact that you said that. So Tamara will not be filming this year. She'll be in prison for the next six months. Could you imagine?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I really.

[Tamara Judge]

This is Housewives. This is what it's breaking down to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

When so and so God gets out of prison will be. Make sure to see how she looks without her hair extensions and no makeup. Like, what the ride is this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. But we also have two newbies. We've got Tia Glover. Tia is an upper crust British Nigerian expat and comes to Potomac with a full house of worldly perspective on family. As she navigates new friendship, Tia must decide whether to keep things classy or use her signature wit to speak her mind when the moment calls for it. She's introduced. Yep. Like her too.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's just the British accent. She's the one with the British accent, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Okay. Just the way she holds herself in the British accent. I feel like you can tell somebody off in a British accent and it just sounds so lovely.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, you don't even mind it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you don't mind it at all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So. And then we've got.

[Tamara Judge]

I Don't want her to keep things classy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I have a feeling she won't. Me too. I have a feeling by what we.

[Tamara Judge]

Got to know so far, Angel's pretty interesting.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Give us her little rundown.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. No stranger. The DMV angel is back and ready to re establish herself in the P. She and her former pro athlete husband are the co founders of a high end outdoors outfitter. And she focuses on explaining her brand and reconnecting with old friends. Which night. Which might not be as simple as she thought. She is introduced to the group through Kiana. So I don't remember her. Like, was she on the show before? Like at parties and stuff or.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she's never been on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. So when they say back, it's not back in Potomac, it's back in living in Potomac.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's just she's moved back.

[Commercial Announcer]

She's also the one that went to school with Wendy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Did she say Wendy was much older than her?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She said that they were. Yeah. But then Wendy shaded her later. Like definitely not the same friend group.

[Commercial Announcer]

Damn.

[Tamara Judge]

The shade that went on on this first episode. Shade. I mean, we're going to get into it, but it's these girls. Do not hold back. Now. Although Karen wasn't there. Yeah, she was kind of there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She was there. We could feel her presence. There was letters being written to her. They showed her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Interesting that they show her coming home from prison. Did they not get her going to prison? They didn't show that, did they?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did I miss that show that? Well, I think they may have shown that last season. No, they didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think so. But yeah, that was an interesting way of doing things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it was a little flash forward to start it out.

[Tamara Judge]

And then we see in the previews that are the trailer where Giselle's writing her a Dear Karen letter. Dear Karen, there's not a day that doesn't go by that I don't think about you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But life goes on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, life goes on. We're gonna film and you're not, but we'll be waiting for you. Was Karen in the opening titles?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Was. No. No.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. I was wondering because I feel like when she got home, I feel like she probably filmed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like she got out right when they finished dropping. So we're not going to really see her much this season. It may be she'll. We'll see a little bit at the end, but she's. No, she's in during this entire season.

[Tamara Judge]

She'll come Back as a friend.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She'll be back. She'll.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, she'll be back. There's no doubt.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, I have so many issues this with so many people this.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm excited to get into this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. Well, it starts out Giselle has Ashley, Wendy, Kiara, and Stacy over. They talk about Karen being in jail. I missed. Did you miss Karen?

[Tamara Judge]

No, not yet. Because I feel like she was kind of in there because we saw her getting out of jail and all and then all the talk about her, so. Not yet, not yet, not yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay. Well, then Ashley brings up T.J. to Stacy. She says she is sitting in hurt. And then. Then Stacy goes, well, I'm sitting in my truth, just like I did for the reunion. She didn't pay him to be on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

When somebody says, I'm standing in my truth, that those words bother me so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Bad, I know it's either the truth.

[Tamara Judge]

Or if it's my truth. Girl, you're lying. Like, you're making up your own truth in your mind.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what I thought was cute? That Giselle wants Karen to go to a AARP jail without murderers. It was really. That was really nice of her. Put her in an old lady's jail cell where there's no murderers. Is that so thoughtful? Right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is that a thing? But are we supposed to not remember when it comes to Stacy? At the reunion last year, TJ called into Wendy's husband, Eddie, and revealed that his relationship with Stacy was all made up for the show and that Stacy was paying for him to film. Are we supposed to have forgotten that?

[Tamara Judge]

No. I mean, it obviously gets worse for her when, as she tells her about the lawsuits.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It's just the word salad that this woman can produce is crazy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You can tell she's been on QVC along.

[Tamara Judge]

You can tell I have somebody like that on my show. Like, you could say something and question about something, and they will take it somewhere else and then question you, and you sit there and go, what just happened?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She does not answer a question to save her life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. And also, supposedly, her and TJ are fine now.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, please. I do think that the girls were a little rough on her, but I don't think they like her. I think as soon as she got into, you know, she was the last one to get there. Walking up, burping. That was not what I expected to come out of her mouth first. And then she sits down and it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, I probably would have left, too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I probably would have just Come in and said, like, I was going through a hard time and I wanted a companion.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. What about giving him 50% of her contract?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If that's true, I. I have no words. If that's true, I have absolutely not a word.

[Tamara Judge]

Your first season, you don't make that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Much, but that's very generous.

[Tamara Judge]

50%. That means you made nothing because the. The rest of the money you made.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Has to go towards taxes, and you had to get all your clothes and.

[Tamara Judge]

Your things and all those things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It was just crazy to me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But then Kiara brings up Stacy wanting to film on the show for quite some time. And Stacy says she's been on television for years. Which qvc?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Stacy leaves. But then Giselle tells the girls that TJ is suing Stacy because she promised him half of her pay.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's just bizarre. Now, the insults, Kiana, you couldn't squeeze a tear out of those bdis BDS eyes. I think she actually said, well, I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Love that the women are allowed to continuously break the fourth wall on this show.

[Commercial Announcer]

They did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, especially during this conversation, Stacy saying.

[Tamara Judge]

To Kiana, she's vanilla, unless she's coming after her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know if I agree or disagree with that, but do you think the girls were mean to her?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think the girls want answers. And do you think they came in.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, Giselle, like, anytime something was said, like, talked about Kiana calling Stacy, like, saying she has BDIs and Giselle's over.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There.

[Tamara Judge]

That would bother me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, is that necessary? Like, someone's making fun of my appearance, and you're gonna sit there and laugh and jump up and down.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But Stacy was acting before she left. She was kind of acting like nothing was. Like, it was just like water off a duck's back. And it just.

[Tamara Judge]

Stacey seems a little bit different just in this first episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, we find out why soon. Because Stacy and her ex husband, the Elmo, meet for dinner and kiss on the lips.

[Tamara Judge]

Not the lips.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know they kiss on the lips.

[Tamara Judge]

Where are those lips been?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. Definitely not on tj. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you feel like she ran back to her ex husband since TJ isn't available anymore?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I feel like maybe she always wanted to be back with the ex husband and she wanted someone to film with the first season.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. After you just said that she wanted somebody to film with, do you feel like maybe she doesn't have anybody to film with this season? As far as a significant other, do you think that the relationship with her husband now is true? Or is it a lie? She's got a track record.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it's true. I, I felt a connection with the two of them.

[Commercial Announcer]

You did?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you he.

[Tamara Judge]

A little bit. But he's so different than tj. That's why I'm like, whoa, this is bizarre. He is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

TJ's a paid actor.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. But he's like, just so calm. And you can tell, like, you know, he seems like he's going to be a good guy for, for this show because he's not going to be like one of those douche lords that wants to, you know, be a star on reality tv. Yeah, the husbands that talk too much and do too much. He seems like he's a good backseat. I'm going to support you. Do your thing, but I'm not getting involved.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Here's the thing about being a great gift giver. When you find something truly perfect for everyone on your list, you almost don't want to give it away.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what happened with my Quint's order. Everything's so soft and well made. I'm seriously tempted to keep all of it for myself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Quint's pretty much has your whole list covered. Mongolian cashmere sweaters for $50 when you'd normally pay $200 or more. The kind you'll wear on repeat.

[Tamara Judge]

Then there's the denim that goes with everything.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

I can't tell you how much I'm loving my new cashmere sweater. I will be wearing it a lot this holiday season and getting one for my daughter's slate. Find gifts so good you'll want to keep them with Quince.

[Tamara Judge]

Go to quince.com Tamara for free shipping on your orders and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com Tamara to get free shipping and 365 day returns.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you notice that Stacy has a habit of like telling us things without actually showing us things. Like, she's like, gosh, we just. We can't even stop looking at each other.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I found that a little cringe. But you know what, Teddy? You notice I felt a little cringe.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But.

[Tamara Judge]

And I thought maybe we should try it every time we want to hang out. Can you send me an ebay?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Absolutely not.

[Tamara Judge]

Just send me an evite. It's gonna make me feel very special.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, then I can just straight to calendar. Right. Like, what is happening? No, no, no. But I don't know. I felt like the two of them are going to be back together for real.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they're like, we're going to try it. We'll see. Let's not let the daughter know. Don't want to get her hopes up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But at some point, she'll see the show and see that this is happening.

[Tamara Judge]

This is happening. Why do I look at you with googly eyes?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We can't even keep our eyes off each other. Oh. And then he ordered for her.

[Tamara Judge]

Or is it beady eyes or is it googly eyes? Which one?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is it googly? It's a lot about eyes. It's a lot about eyes.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Meanwhile, we have judgy eyes. Watching it.

[Tamara Judge]

Definitely.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then Kiana's mom goes over to Kiana's new condo. Kiana broke up with Greg. Then Greg called her and invited her to Jamaica to talk. This gives me a lot of red flags.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, first of all, all I could do is sit there and stare at her mom and then stare at Kiana. And I'm thinking, how old is Kiana? She's got to be, like, 12, because her mom looks like she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her mom looks amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

Her mom looks 30.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Her mom is stunning.

[Commercial Announcer]

Stunning.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, Kiara's stunning, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. But her mom looks so young. Then I'm like, kiara's probably younger than my oldest child.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But her mom doesn't think the relationship is good for Kiarna. Well, neither do I.

[Tamara Judge]

Neither does the world. So I'm confused. So they broke up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

They took a pause. Then they went to Jim. She moved out. Then they went to Jamaica. And now they're dating again.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, now they're dating again. Kiara will be 38 in November.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she does. She deserves better than Greg. She's self made, has successful med spa. She can do better.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, she can definitely do better. At the last season's reunion, Kiarna basically confirmed Greg did not like her being on the show, which the other woman said was a red flag. Do you agree?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't Know if it's a red flag, I just think that some guys don't like the show. Now, you have to understand, the guys do not get paid. The guys are putting their life out there for zero compensation, even if you're married. So.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But what do you see? Things gonna change now that he's just not gonna film and we're just gonna talk about him.

[Tamara Judge]

Who knows? And then there's also guys that maybe have skeletons in the closet that shouldn't film. And maybe that's. Maybe he just doesn't want to be on camera for. Who knows what could be for.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He didn't come off well last year.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And that's enough to make a boyfriend or a husband be like, peace out. I ain't gonna film. You're gonna make me look an asshole and you're not gonna pay me. Yeah. No, thanks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Do you know what else I noticed about Kiarna? What? During her confessional, she looks straight into the camera.

[Tamara Judge]

What do you mean? Aren't you supposed to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Remember, you look, like, right to the side.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I see. I didn't pick that up. I'm gonna have to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Because the producer sits next to the camera. His face is up against the camera. Pretty much.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So you have to look a little, you know, like, I don't know, six inches over.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. No, directly. Directly into the camera the entire time.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm surprised they allow her to do that. They don't stop it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Maybe they can't. Maybe the tiaras won't. Why did she wear so many tiaras this episode? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

But my head hurt just watching that confessional one. Could you imagine wearing that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

For six hours or however long she's sitting in the chair. No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it wasn't her only one. Or maybe it was the only one and she's reusing it.

[Tamara Judge]

Then she didn't she wear, like, a head? Big headband. Like, it looked like a big crystal?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. These outfits they wear so over the top in their confessionals.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So beyond. But, I mean, it's. It's a lot. Then Wendy and we see a little bit of Wendy and Eddie, and they tell their kids how Eddie, their cannabis company is doing, which it's apparently doing great. They're opening.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm telling you, it's a good business to be in.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then their son says he wants to work at Chick Fil A.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not carry on the business.

[Tamara Judge]

Chick Fil A. I think he just wants to eat at Chick Fil A. Yeah, well, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I have to say. Didn't you start the trend of CBD cannabis companies? Would you do a happy Eddie collab? No.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that we're so well established, we're six years into it. The business is doing amazing, and no reason to collab with anybody, but, yeah, we were the first ones to do it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, you were smart. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Got in at the right time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Came in at the right time.

[Tamara Judge]

I love that her daughter said she wanted to be a doctor like her mama. And didn't one of the kids go, she ain't no doctor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She isn't a doctor.

[Tamara Judge]

Ain't no doctor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And. And then the dad's like, well, she. They all kind of like, paused.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you remember the EDS had Eddie on their podcast?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, and they loved him.

[Tamara Judge]

And I know Eddie loved him. You guys can go get a listen at the ED's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, go listen on the ED's. The EDs have interest, have interviewed some interesting husbands. So go on there and you can get more husband talk. Ashley is officially divorced after three years, and Stacy joins her to shop for her divorce party. Ashley brings up the legal documents, and then actress. The name is bleeped, but they showed her. Stacy is the defendant and T.J. is the plaintiff.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, another show where they're bleeping out a name.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, who do you think it is?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know who it is.

[Tamara Judge]

But when Ashley tells Stacey about the legal documents, Stacy replies with, I don't know what to say about that. I don't really know what to say. She has no answer for anything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, None. No answer. And also, no. She's either in this weird, calm state talking like she's on QVC or she's leaving.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. Because I do have somebody on the show that acts like this. Is it just being a pathological liar or is it you don't want to answer a question and you're just very well trained in to turning the conversation in a different way? I mean, is it being trained or is it just liar?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What is she going to say? Yeah, I paid him?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, first of all, when they said, you know something about the lawsuit, there's a. You could pull that up. It's probably public record. How do you answer that? With, I don't know what to say about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe she's not allowed to talk about it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then say that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, true. I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

Or, yeah, you know what? I'm fighting this lawsuit right now. Like, something like that. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just all she had to say was, we're Fine. You don't understand. We're actually fine.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It's bizarre behavior.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's bizarre.

[Tamara Judge]

And you can tell Ashley, like, I do the same thing with this person on my cast. You just shake your head like, huh?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, like, come on, answer the question. Answer it. But no, she doesn't. And Ashley's pushing. Ashley is pushing, pushing. So annoyed she can't even take it. She's pushing, pushing. But I don't know how Stacy continues with the group if she doesn't start admitting to things.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we see previews for next week and she's admitted to something, but we don't. It might be misleading. I'm not sure. Yeah, but we will see. She's forgiven TJ and they're just fine. And she doesn't know what to say. But Stacy does say Ashley should stop Googling me and should be taking voice lessons or get a voice coach or something like that. I'm like, oh, Stacey's not playing this season?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, she's not playing. But I also want to know who this random person is that's at an award show that knows tj. Like, who knows tj?

[Tamara Judge]

Let's get Ashley on the podcast. Teddy Walters, get to it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Come on, Ashley, Bring it on in.

[Tamara Judge]

But then Ashley says something about her divorce, and it was like, so are you divorced?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She said she couldn't find the divorce.

[Tamara Judge]

Find it. So it's like, really? Are they going to be lying about that, too? I mean, why would you lie about that? That's what's ridiculous.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Especially because she said she was on a trip. Remember how she says that they were on a trip when the divorce was finalized?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. I mean, if she's lying about that and she's not divorced and she went as far as to say it was final, like, giving history and story. I'm never. I'm never going to like her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Never, ever going to like her. I don't like liars. I hate that more than anything. It makes my, like, like uncontrollable. I sweat. I get a lump in my throat. I want to karate chop them to the Adam's apple. I can't stand when people just blatantly lie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. So now I need to know that, too. There's. There's so many unknowns with Stacy. It's, like, beyond. But I've never in my life after Stacy storms out during this conversation. I've never seen worse timing in my life than the lady bringing out the two glasses of champagne.

[Tamara Judge]

That is awesome. And then what about Stacy saying, Ashley invites her to her celebration of. Or whatever you want to call it. Her bloom, something. And Stacy says, you shouldn't celebrate divorce. I think her exact words were, stacy says divorce shouldn't be celebrated, but she did take her 10 years to get divorced. So, like the shade, the constant shade. She's getting under my last nerves already.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's getting under our nerves. And we know what happens when that happens.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, in your eyes. What is wrong with celebrating a divorce.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

From an asshole and moving on and saying, I'm moving on. I'm stepping into this new part of my life, and I want to celebrate it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, scary.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know, but have we gotten any of the breath combos yet, or does that come later? Because that was a lot. I felt like that the entire episode.

[Commercial Announcer]

How.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, we'll get to it in a minute, but how embarrassing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, so Kiana goes over to Angels, the new Housewives house. Her husband is the retired NFL player. And then angel says Ashley was her bottle girl years ago.

[Tamara Judge]

Not Ashley the bottle girl. I mean, she's so cute. Of course she could be a bottle girl right now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, it.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think she was shading her by saying that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she was trying to, but, like, whatever. Who wasn't? Who was it when they were young?

[Tamara Judge]

How about Giselle? She's like, I'm just gonna. She's dancing in her house. I'm gonna walk around naked. All my children are gone. The titties are exposed. Look at me. I look hot. Look at the hair. She is loving life right now. She's seeing a little bit of more relaxed Giselle that. Well, maybe a little frisky.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. She's ready to go. She's ready to mingle. She. We need another.

[Tamara Judge]

Beautiful as always.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. She looks stunning. She looks happy. She's enjoying life. Her house is put together.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Did she get a new house?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Well, no. Remember, they were, like, building it, but it was, like, in pieces before.

[Tamara Judge]

I think I was gonna say something looked different about the house. That must be it. Now Angel. We get to meet Angel. First impression of her husband.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Seemed like a good guy. Yeah, seemed like a good guy. Yep. And he drinks Matcha.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. No, just seeing him, and he kissed his wife and he went on his day and all. He just. He seemed like a really good guy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, I'm gonna take the kids to the park.

[Tamara Judge]

You guys Wasn't, like, looking in the camera, like, is this my good side?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, he didn't. He seemed chill.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I like Him. Then we get to the Bloom ball.

[Tamara Judge]

What's a Bloom ball?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We're blooming. We're blooming into a new chapter of our life. We're in bloom. Full bloom. Full bloom. We're in full bloom. But Giselle brings her friend Tia, the other new housewife. She is a princess. Her family is Nigerian royalty. And then Giselle and Angel joke about Stacy's bad breath. Angel calls it tart.

[Tamara Judge]

They said it at the same time, I think. Tart. Oh, my God. I would be mortified, embarrassed, humiliated. And then they go around and everybody is talking about Stacy's breath.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's. She must have, like. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but maybe it's like halitosis or gingivitis or, like, it's coming from the outside.

[Tamara Judge]

Gout. No, it's not gout.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not gout. Dick.

[Tamara Judge]

What's it called where you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Gert.

[Tamara Judge]

Gerd.

[Commercial Announcer]

Gerd.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what it is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it's killing me that everybody is saying this. So what I need you to do, Teddy, when we go to Bravicon, is I want you to smell her breath.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Get as close to her as I possibly can. I'm sure she's really.

[Tamara Judge]

Can I ask you a question? Did you have anybody on your cast that just had the worst breath?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I had to sit next to somebody at reunion, and I could not get away. Like, I was, like, gagging. Their breath was so bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How do people not know when their breath is so bad?

[Tamara Judge]

My breath's really bad right now because I'm drinking a protein shake, and it gives me icky.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

My breath. Well, I'm drinking a chai latte, and I think my breath is amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

Nah, I don't know. I mean, don't get really close to somebody. Like, first of all, stay out of my space. Like, don't. If I.

[Commercial Announcer]

If you're close enough to me talking.

[Tamara Judge]

That I could smell your breath, you're too close.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Back up.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Or. But they weren't even that close.

[Tamara Judge]

That's really bad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's what I'm saying. That's why it must be pretty tired. She wasn't that close to many of the ones.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe that's why TJ's suing her. That's her bad breath.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe that's why he didn't want to hook up with her.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

What about this? Kiarana and Wendy fight. Like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, she sits with Wendy and says that the energy Wendy brings to her off the show isn't the same as on the show. That at a recent event, Wendy didn't tell her she was going to be a speaker and didn't wave to her. Okay, how do you feel about that?

[Tamara Judge]

This is the dumbest fight I've ever heard of in my entire life.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so she's on stage, Wendy, and she sees her in the audience. By the way, refresh my memory. Are they not on good terms? On good terms from last year?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're on fine terms.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, they're on fine terms. So that makes it even worse. So she's on stage talking. Kiana walks in and she's mad because she didn't acknowledge her while she's talking on stage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Somebody must have told Kiana she needed to be more activated this season. And so this is what she's trying to do.

[Tamara Judge]

And this is the worst fight ever. This is the type of shit I hate. Bringing up stuff just to bring up stuff. Saying something about somebody just to make it polarizing. It's just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hate it. She could have. Well, when she said, you know, we were one of the. What was the word? She was one of the. Kiarna said we were one of the sponsors. So I'm wondering why one of the sponsors didn't already know this.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. It just. It was just all weird. It was stupid. I did, like, don't do fights like that. I don't want to. I don't want to see fights like that. You're just acting like you need to bring something for the show. Unless there's more to it we haven't heard. I just feel like it's really stupid.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she's trying to say that she just doesn't feel like she's treated well by her, and I think that's where this is going to lead.

[Tamara Judge]

Could you imagine you're on stage speaking, and I walk up and I'm in the front row and I get mad at you for not acknowledging me while I'm on stage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not like she came back down and sat next to her and ignored her.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, when your dad's on stage, does he do like a hey, shout out to justice and Teddy out there? Hey, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. But did you. Do you think that it's weird that Wendy didn't tell her she was going to be a speaker once Case had told her she was going to be a sponsor?

[Tamara Judge]

They clearly don't talk off season. I'm assuming this happened.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did talk. That's what she's saying. She said, I told you That I was going to be a sponsor.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. So what?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wendy? Yeah, Wendy said, oh, I didn't want to make it about me. So that's why I didn't tell you.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't see what the big deal is, honestly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She could have said, I'm going to be there, too. I'm being one of the speakers.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, that would be normal conversation. But why would she. Maybe it just didn't. She didn't think about it. But why would she hide it? There's. There's no benefit to her for not telling her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what I mean? Like, there's no benefit for it. So maybe it's just one of those conversations where, oh, yeah, I'm going to be there, too. Or just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. But she didn't say, I'm going to be there too.

[Tamara Judge]

Why do you think that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe because she didn't want to talk to her. Maybe.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, she knows she's gonna be filming a show with her, which leads me to believe that they're not really that close off camera, which is fine. Most of the housewives are not that close off camera.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

True, true.

[Tamara Judge]

But Ashley telling Stacy something smells fishy made me laugh. I'm like, does she smell other places, too? Is it her breath?

[Public Investing Announcer]

What is it?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I'm just gonna think about. Stacy is just being smelly Stacy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Smelly Stacy. Don't be back in third grade.

[Tamara Judge]

Smelly Stacy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Smelly Stacy. I know that's. They're not gonna. This isn't gonna stop. And at some points, we're gonna see Stacy, like, walking into events and being like.

[Tamara Judge]

Does that work?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, you can't smell your own breath.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't smell your own.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why? I don't know. It's must be forgiveness for somebody like Stacy.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I can smell my pit sometimes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I can smell my fence, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Time, take shower. My butt smells. Stacy's like, they're going to give her her own chair at the reunion because her breath stinks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's going to need to be on the far, far end.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm so embarrassed for her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me, too.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think. I don't know that I could say something publicly. I don't know if I probably could if I had enough alcohol in me to be like, your freaking breath stinks. Because I was in the reunion having to deal with that for eight hours or however long it was, and trust me, so badly I wanted to say, stop breathing on me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can you just pass a mint?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean they're subtle.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a good one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Just carry mints and then just here you go, give that person a little mint if their insides are smelling on their outsides.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I'm sure my breath is smelled at times breathing on somebody. I try not to.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

What about how over the top all these dresses were? They looked beautiful. Everybody came in and they were blooming.

[Tamara Judge]

There was. Oh, the. At the party.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. The venue was beautiful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. So what do we think is going to happen this season? Do we think it's going to be like, incredible?

[Tamara Judge]

I fear for Stacy. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I really fear for her.

[Tamara Judge]

She can't even be honest about getting divorced. I don't know. I think it's gonna be a good season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think it's gonna be a good season, too. I've really enjoyed watching them again. I miss them.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, this episode was a lot of repetition, but I think that was just to get us back on board.

[Tamara Judge]

It was a good first episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it was a good first episode.

[Tamara Judge]

I like when we start a little bit of, you know, catch up on family life and then go into your very first event.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

When I was on the show before I got fired, we would have housewife events every once in a while. Now coming back, we obviously have a new producer, Luke, and he makes sure that we do a housewife event like once a week. So it's pretty much in every single episode. We all get together for something and then little separate things. I like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I like that too. Who was Wendy having issues with? Wasn't there someone else or am I blanking her husband?

[Tamara Judge]

According to the previews, I Hope she's not talking about her husband.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hope not, too. What exactly did you say?

[Tamara Judge]

He doesn't love me.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, right.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He doesn't.

[Tamara Judge]

He said he doesn't love me or something like that. I'm like, no, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, what about how Monique comes back? She turns the season as a friend. I'm excited. I love Monique.

[Tamara Judge]

Was. She wasn't on this episode, right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, no.

[Tamara Judge]

So she's gonna be coming up, and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then we have Jazzy, who's coming back as a friend.

[Tamara Judge]

How many are on this cast now? So we have two friends, two new housewives. We lost two housewives, but I think.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So we have seven housewives and two friends, so nine total.

[Tamara Judge]

Nine. That's a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's a lot. That's like Miami style.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but they, you know, not a lot of times, starting out especially, they don't give friends a lot of air time. Like, no house scenes, no personal story, stuff like that. Just at parties. We'll see.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But I'm excited for it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. It was a good episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Good episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Good job, girls.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Good job, ladies. Keep it coming.

[Tamara Judge]

I want to know where do they find those confessional outfits?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know, but we need to find some type of outfits for Bravo.

[Tamara Judge]

The shoulders that come out to here. Could you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Could you imagine me trying to walk around in one of those two foot.

[Tamara Judge]

Two feet, shoulder pads on each side? Like, I'm like, where. Where do you buy this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Everybody like, hey, sorry. Heads up.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't even find a reunion dress.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

It's coming up. Everyone I get doesn't fit. You know, we have specific colors. And so it. Like, when you have to get a color, it's always the hardest. Like a specific color.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And you can't get the same color, same dress as somebody else, or you'll end up like. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

And there's only so many. And the color is off season.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You're gonna find one. Oh, you're gonna find one. But, yeah, I felt the spirit of Karen this episode. Yeah, I felt the spirit of Karen.

[Tamara Judge]

You think that they'll have her film some scenes when she gets and then just put it. Slice them in there somewhere.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I hope so. At the end.

[Tamara Judge]

At the end. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Between. Yeah. I. I think. I think they have to. I think they have to.

[Tamara Judge]

It was good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was good.

[Tamara Judge]

Spirit of Karen and the breath of Stacy. What a great episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That should have been the name of that episode.

[Tamara Judge]

That should be the name of this episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It probably will be. Yep. Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, breath of fresh air.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love you Tam.

[Tamara Judge]

I love you too. Oh my God, that is hilarious.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Talk to you soon.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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