Diamonds in the Rough: Dear Diamonds…

Summary

Podcast Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: Diamonds in the Rough: Dear Diamonds…
Release Date: May 2, 2025
Host/Authors: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Description: Teddi and Tamra, the dynamic duo behind "Two Ts In A Pod," dive deep into the glamorous and tumultuous world of reality TV housewives. Each week, they offer candid advice and witty commentary, sharing their unique insights into maintaining lasting friendships, navigating personal challenges, and balancing the spotlight with genuine connections.

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Introduction

Timestamp: [01:13] – [02:28]

In this episode of Diamonds in the Rough, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge transition from their usual banter to adopt the persona of advice columnists, transforming their segment into a "Dear Diamonds" advisory show. Despite some initial self-deprecating humor about not having their act together, they embrace the opportunity to offer guidance to their listeners' dilemmas.

1. Rekindling an Old Friendship

Question: An individual is struggling to reconnect with a best friend from 10th grade who drifted apart after the friend prioritized her marriage. The individual fears rejection after 12 years of no contact.

Timestamp: [04:15] – [08:02]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Approach: Emphasizes the effortless nature of true friendships and suggests a simple, heartfelt message to bridge the gap.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "Maybe you could just send her one little text message and just say, hey, listen, I've been doing some thinking, self-reflecting and I'm really sorry that I didn't make you more of a priority in my life." [05:23]

• Tamra's Insights: Advocates for maintaining separate aspects of life, such as keeping interactions platonic despite personal disagreements with a friend's partner.

  Tamra Judge: "It's really none of my business if I'm friends with you. Like, I don't really care about your husband." [07:05]

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "You don't know how you're going to be received until you do it." [06:36]
• Tamra Judge: "Your friendship is with the woman, not with a guy." [07:13]

Conclusion: Both hosts agree that reaching out with sincerity is worth the risk, asserting that genuine friendships can withstand time and changes in life circumstances.

2. Navigating a Crush on a Male Coworker with Uncertain Intentions

Question: A listener harbors feelings for a male coworker who may or may not be interested in men. They are hesitant to make a move due to potential awkwardness and workplace implications.

Timestamp: [09:18] – [12:44]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Advice: Strongly advises against pursuing romantic interests in the workplace if unsure about the coworker's orientation, highlighting the risks of HR complications and professional awkwardness.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "If you don't think he's into guys, do not make this move at all. This is not a safe bet." [09:42]

• Tamra's Perspective: Validates the complexities of workplace relationships and underscores the importance of maintaining professionalism to avoid uncomfortable situations.

  Tamra Judge: "If you're not sure about one of these things at work, and it's there in that work environment. Do not touch it." [10:55]

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra Judge: "Honey, let me tell you something. You can't even tell anybody they look cute." [10:00]
• Teddi Mellencamp: "It's gonna be awkwardness issue. And it's not about if he's gay or not gay." [11:03]

Conclusion: The hosts concur that maintaining professional boundaries is paramount, especially when there's uncertainty regarding personal interests, to preserve workplace harmony and avoid potential conflicts.

3. Dealing with a Manipulative Friend

Question: A listener describes a long-term friend who is manipulative, stirs up drama, and uses indirect tactics to get what she wants. They seek advice on handling this toxic behavior.

Timestamp: [16:19] – [22:27]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Strategy: Encourages setting firm boundaries and cutting off communication if the friend's manipulative behavior persists.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "If you're really wanting to move on from the controlling husband, leave the husband." [35:55]

• Tamra's Input: Suggests that if a friendship is consistently draining and manipulative, it's healthier to distance oneself or end the relationship altogether.

  Tamra Judge: "Don't do it. And because you're just going to pay, you're gonna pay." [37:10]

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Don't grovel. Just say, like, I really miss you, and I apologize." [09:17]
• Tamra Judge: "Friendships at this point in my life are meaningful. Relationships are meaningful, or they're not happening at all." [18:04]

Conclusion: Both hosts agree that prioritizing one's well-being is essential. They advise listeners to recognize toxic behaviors and take decisive action to maintain healthy and supportive relationships.

4. Age-Gap Relationship Concerns

Question: An 18-year-old is in a relationship with a man 20 years her senior. Her family and friends view it as a red flag, and she suspects his controlling behavior.

Timestamp: [19:02] – [22:50]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Warning: Highlights the potential red flags in significant age-gap relationships, especially when the older partner exhibits controlling tendencies.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "If you're with a guy who's all of us... he's all over you, he's going to keep coming first." [21:13]

• Tamra's Observation: Points out that isolating behavior and controlling actions are typical signs of unhealthy relationships, urging the listener to heed warnings from trusted sources.

  Tamra Judge: "He’s isolating you, you’re losing your friendships... that's what most men like this enjoy." [20:02]

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "What if he's just not into you? What if he is gay but just wants to be your pal?" [11:03]
• Tamra Judge: "He's the crazy one." [22:27]

Conclusion: The hosts emphasize the importance of recognizing unhealthy dynamics in relationships, especially those with significant age gaps. They advise prioritizing personal safety and emotional well-being over societal pressures or perceived comfort.

5. Supporting a Partner with Anxiety

Question: A listener's husband experiences fluctuating anxiety, particularly about the future, death, and self-image. She seeks guidance on how to support him without imposing her own experiences.

Timestamp: [27:14] – [31:52]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Approach: Recommends offering love and support without attempting to "fix" the partner, suggesting joint activities like walks to foster connection.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "Just give him a little love and support. And then also maybe say you could go on walks together." [28:26]

• Tamra's Suggestions: Emphasizes the importance of encouraging professional help, such as therapy, and adopting lifestyle changes that can alleviate anxiety symptoms.

  Tamra Judge: "You should see a therapist. He sees a therapist from time to time. Make that more frequent." [29:32]

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Don't start trying to coach him through his anxiety when you've never struggled with it." [28:12]
• Tamra Judge: "What I've found is small things can make a difference if you're against medication." [29:18]

Conclusion: The hosts agree that supporting a partner with anxiety involves patience, encouragement towards professional help, and creating a supportive environment without overstepping personal boundaries.

6. Navigating Career Pressures in Your 20s

Question: A 24-year-old has left a dissatisfying corporate job to move to Charleston with her boyfriend. She feels pressured to secure a lucrative career and is uncertain about her next steps.

Timestamp: [31:59] – [34:46]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Advice: Suggests exploring careers with high demand in her new location, such as real estate, emphasizing its potential profitability and flexibility.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "Pretty lucrative and kind of fun to do while you're in Charleston is be a real estate agent." [33:58]

• Tamra's Encouragement: Reassures the listener that it's normal to feel uncertain in her 20s and encourages embracing the journey of self-discovery without undue pressure.

  Tamra Judge: "Don't be too hard on yourself. Just stay busy." [33:43]

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Don't do something that you know is gonna impact you for the rest of your life." [33:00]
• Tamra Judge: "We're allowed to discover ourselves. So don't be too hard on yourself." [33:43]

Conclusion: The hosts reassure young adults that uncertainty is a natural part of their 20s. They encourage exploring opportunities, embracing change, and not being overly pressured to have everything figured out immediately.

7. Maintaining Platonic Friendships Amid Jealousy

Question: A listener is married to a controlling spouse who is jealous, making it difficult to maintain platonic friendships with old male friends. She contemplates whether it's worth risking marital strife to preserve these friendships.

Timestamp: [34:50] – [37:10]

Key Discussions:

• Teddi's Stance: Advises against meeting up with old friends if it jeopardizes a healthy marriage, emphasizing that trust and communication are fundamental.

  Teddi Mellencamp: "And if your husband is, if you love him and he's an amazing guy... It was just a friendship." [37:01]

• Tamra's Perspective: Reinforces the idea that maintaining peace in the marriage should take precedence over external friendships, especially in the face of controlling behavior.

  Tamra Judge: "If you're really wanting to move on from the controlling husband, leave the husband." [35:55]

Notable Quotes:

• Tamra Judge: "Don't do it. And because you're just going to pay, you're gonna pay." [37:10]
• Teddi Mellencamp: "It was just a friendship... you're gonna have to do all of this shit to convince him that it isn't." [37:03]

Conclusion: Both hosts concur that preserving marital harmony is paramount. They advise against prioritizing friendships that could inflict emotional turmoil within the marriage, especially when dealing with a jealous and controlling partner.

Conclusion

Timestamp: [42:02] – [42:58]

Teddi and Tamra wrap up the episode by reflecting on their advice-giving approach, acknowledging their straightforward and often blunt guidance based on personal experiences. They maintain a light-hearted tone, promising more engaging content in future episodes, including interactive segments where listeners can grill them with questions.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "It's just not worth it is what we have to say here." [42:44]
• Tamra Judge: "We're conservative in our thoughts... some of the advice we've given is like, look, you're gonna pay for this. It's not worth it." [42:30]

Closing Remarks: The hosts reiterate their commitment to offering honest, experience-based advice, encouraging listeners to continue seeking their unique perspective on personal and interpersonal challenges.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Maybe you could just send her one little text message and just say, hey, listen, I've been doing some thinking, self-reflecting and I'm really sorry that I didn't make you more of a priority in my life." [05:23]
• Tamra Judge: "If you're with a guy who's all of us... he's all over you, he's going to keep coming first." [21:13]
• Teddi Mellencamp: "Don't start trying to coach him through his anxiety when you've never struggled with it." [28:12]
• Tamra Judge: "Friendships at this point in my life are meaningful. Relationships are meaningful, or they're not happening at all." [18:04]
• Teddi Mellencamp: "It's just not worth it is what we have to say here." [42:44]

Final Thoughts: Throughout "Diamonds in the Rough: Dear Diamonds…", Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge offer a blend of candid advice and relatable humor, providing listeners with actionable insights into managing complex social and personal issues. Their dynamic interaction fosters an engaging atmosphere, making the episode both entertaining and valuable for those seeking guidance.

Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the Rough with myself.

[Erika Jayne]

And I'm Erika Jayne.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, I forgot with myself my name afterwards.

[Erika Jayne]

No, I was just looking at.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, guys. I decided to come as Dear Abby. I'm actually. I'm Sally Jessie Raphael.

[Erika Jayne]

I love Sally. Jessie, listen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, who are you?

[Erika Jayne]

I don't know, guys.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Essentially, we just really couldn't get our shit together today. But we decided we'd be the perfect time to give you guys advice.

[Erika Jayne]

Right? So move over Dear Abby, because it's Dear Diamonds and we're gonna give out some advice you've written to us. We're gonna take a few questions and give our. I don't know if we should be giving advice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, maybe we should write in and ask people to give us.

[Erika Jayne]

No, they already do for free comments and I don't need that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We don't want it. But apparently a lot of you guys, I don't know why.

[Erika Jayne]

Aren't you tired of people giving you cancer advice?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I am. So listen, I'm so sick of doing cancer press. Cancer advice. Yeah, me and cancer are not simpatico anymore.

[Erika Jayne]

No, it's just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I'm moving on. I want to get on to other.

[Erika Jayne]

People'S problems just real quick. I'm wearing these because I have allergies and I want to pluck my eye out so it's just swollen under here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I was wearing mine, but then it was hurting because it was pushing behind my ear on the wig. So now I'm just, you know, I'm a brunette, so I wanted to make it feel like more formal today. You know, I like.

[Erika Jayne]

I like these things that you're changing up with.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, wigs are the one thing that I'm changing up. And then just clip clothing is solely because the other clothing doesn't fit.

[Erika Jayne]

Not for right now. It doesn't fit for right now. Just for right. You know, you're still tiny, though.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's.

[Erika Jayne]

But you're just not as tiny as you were.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But it's not about that. It's about, like, the fitness. Like, I don't like that.

[Erika Jayne]

I can feel you just don't feel like yourself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't feel like myself today. I got out of breath from my 20 minute walk on the treadmill.

[Erika Jayne]

But you just had the therapy, though. I know that takes it out of you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I did the. The red carpet for the first time.

[Erika Jayne]

You looked beautiful.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you.

[Erika Jayne]

I was really proud of you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But know what you lose, like when you haven't done a red carpet in a long time. And granted, I didn't think it had been that long, But I guess 70, like our 86 days is a pretty long amount of time.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, you counted the days?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I counted the days because it was 76 days from when I did a surgery. I wasn't like, who. When was the last time I did red carpet?

[Erika Jayne]

There's no case since the surgery.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was about to say surgery.

[Erika Jayne]

Did you feel a little nervous?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I didn't feel nervous, but my eyes didn't really know where to focus, like. Cause.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, couldn't that be. Cause you had some brain tumors or whatever?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, it could be, but I was with Kyle, and so they were yelling both of our names.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And so I would, like, find my eyes being like. And then I looked at her, and I was like, she's staying in one place. Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. And so then in 85% of the photos, I'm like this.

[Erika Jayne]

No, you look great. I saw them, and I saw your interviews. I thought you spoke beautifully.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Erika Jayne]

All right, Dear Diamonds, you ready?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[Erika Jayne]

Okay. Dear Diamonds, I need advice on what to do about an old friendship that I can't stop thinking about. I had a best friend since 10th grade. We were so close, almost like sisters. We'd have arguments, but get over it. We went to university together. Is this person European? Because we said college.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, they. They're either. We went to university. They're either European or Canadian, right?

[Erika Jayne]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But either way, not Americans. Were you in 18?

[Erika Jayne]

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. It's just nobody says university here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We didn't go to univers. Neither of us went to university. So we don't know.

[Erika Jayne]

No, we wouldn't know. No higher education over here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, but ask us. Keep going.

[Erika Jayne]

So then she met her boyfriend who's now her husband, and she started to prioritize spending all her time with him, you know, because I guess the husband, now husband, and the friend did not get along. They continued their friendship, but then at the beginning of the fourth year, she.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Was tired of keeping the relationship separate and she was annoyed at the dumb little things. She did reach out to me once after I did that and I had planned on responding but didn't. I was not planning on killing.

[Erika Jayne]

Killing the friendship. I did try to reach out to her about two and a half years later. So basically the question is 12 years since their sister, like, friendship ended, but she can't move on. And I keep thinking of how to reach out and rekindle what we once had, but I'm scared of rejection.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, okay, well, here's what I'm gonna say about this. The friends that I truly enjoy the most are the ones that I don't need to see every.

[Erika Jayne]

And you don't feel like you have to catch up with. It feels like you just pick right up where you left off.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, it feels effortless. And I think if she doesn't like your husband and you're still with him and you feel guilty from for some of the things you've done in the past by, you know, pushing her out. In your words, not mine. Maybe you could just send her one little text message and just say, hey, listen, I've been doing some, you know, thinking, self reflecting and I'm really sorry that I didn't make you more of a priority in my life. Um, but I'd like to.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, I'd like to change that. Let's see. And see how they look. The bottom line is you don't know how you're going to be received until you do it. If it means something to you, you'll reach out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And if she's this big of a problem, like, here's the thing, there's a lot of my friends, husbands that I don't like, but I suck it down. I suck it down. If they want to choose to be married to them, I'm not going to avoid my friend complete, like, keep everything separate. I could.

[Erika Jayne]

It's really none of my business if I'm friends with you. Like, I mean, I. I don't really care about your husband. Does that make sense? Like, I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Even if we're in a group setting, I could even do a double date.

[Erika Jayne]

Whatever. I'm cool. I. I'm friends with you. The husband is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I mean, not many husbands are that funny anyway.

[Erika Jayne]

But again, my. My friendship is with the woman, not with a guy. But that's my opinion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But either way, I think send her one little message. If she doesn't respond, maybe she's not the friend that you had 12 years.

[Erika Jayne]

Ago who is the same 12 years ago. And college is a completely different mindset. And obviously too, if he's your husband, like, he's first.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's first, and he's going to keep coming first. So I don't really know what's going to change unless things are a little bit on the skids with your husband.

[Erika Jayne]

Skids.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And you need to have that friendship that you originally had with her. But it is going to change. You're married now. You possibly have kids. I don't know.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, 12 years is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. We're both adults. They were both adults with little kids. Now. Now.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, that's. Yeah, that's. Ship has sailed. Maybe you guys can bond over being mothers.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You could. You're. But your relationship is changed.

[Erika Jayne]

Yes, agreed.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But if she won't respond to you, like, I have a friend that keeps reaching out to me through subtle ways. I don't respond. I'm not interested.

[Erika Jayne]

Do you have a big friendship circle?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. I have, like, prob.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, you do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I have, like, sections. Like, I have, like, three groups of friends.

[Erika Jayne]

Right. And they all do different things.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And they all do different things. And they all meet, like, we all meet different. Yeah. But also, none of my friends really have expectations. But I would do anything for them. But if I have a friend that's like, it's my birthday next Wednesday, and if you can't make it, I'm gonna be pissed.

[Erika Jayne]

That's not a friendship. That's like, you're out. Yeah. That's like five years old.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can't do it. I have no patience for it.

[Erika Jayne]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I never require that from other people.

[Erika Jayne]

No. If you can come, come. If you can't, that's great. You know, whatever. I'll catch you next time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'd rather just. Then we'll go together and grab a drink or go to lunch.

[Erika Jayne]

Or do something else.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. You know, I don't. I don't choose people's plans on how they actually feel about me.

[Erika Jayne]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't.

[Erika Jayne]

Amy, we would just like to, say, send a text, reach out, see what happens. But I wouldn't count on it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But don't grovel. Just say, like, I really miss you, and I apologize, but I'm. What can I do that we can get back together and see if we can have some fun or. But if she doesn't respond, move on.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Amy, there's going to be other friends, Right?

[Erika Jayne]

Okay. Dear Diamonds, I'm a guy with a big crush on a male coworker, and I sometimes get the vibe that he might be into me, too. We hung out outside of work, but I'm. But always in groups. I want to be more flirty and make a move, but I'm not sure he's into guys, and I worry it could get awkward. Oh, well, I got to tell you something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is anonymous. Please.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, Anonymous police. Which I do, too. Here's the thing. You got HR issues. Don't do this. If you don't think he's into guys, do not make this move at all. This is not a safe bet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is at 1987. We've got to be careful with the HR.

[Erika Jayne]

Honey, let me tell you something. You can't even tell anybody they look cute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I can't.

[Erika Jayne]

Do you know that you're not allowed to even comment on someone's presence? Like, wow, I really like those shoes. Or, you look beautiful today. Which, personally, I. I like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would appreciate that. And I would.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, me, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I appreciated that when you did that when you got. When I got here today. Is that an HR issue?

[Erika Jayne]

We don't have H. Hr. I can guarantee that. Hr. Where?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Guys, I'm complaining because Erica gave me a compliment today, and I'm offended.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, and also, too. I mean, look, obviously you don't want to take away from those who have really been harassed and things like that, but telling somebody that they look nice, I. I think is just, like, noticing that they put time into their appearance.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I agree. And also that you appreciate how they look.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah. That they're well taken care of or.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You might like it. Hey, where'd you get that? I'd love to get it.

[Erika Jayne]

Right. Um, but where'd you get your jeans?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

In regards to the guy not being sure, I would think that the other guy will come to you if it's meant to be.

[Erika Jayne]

I just say if you're not sure. About one of these things at work, and it's there in that work environment. Do not touch it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. If we were taught. Not talking about work. If we were talking about. You've seen him out of a puffer.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, of course, that's a completely different story. But the work thing. No way.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nope. And then you have to sit. Like, unless you're planning on leaving, going to another job quickly. But even then, if it's not an HR issue, it's going to be an awkwardness issue. And it's not about if he's gay or not gay. What if he's just not into you? What if he is gay but just want to be your pal?

[Erika Jayne]

What if he's gay but just is, like, yeah, you're not my type.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

Have you seen that balloon show where they pop the balloons?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Erika Jayne]

It's so good. There's several. Have you? I'm sure you've seen it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. It's. So that's the whole show. It's like Pimple Popper, but with balloons.

[Erika Jayne]

So they bring. So they line up either all guys or all girls, and they bring, you know, a guy or girl in, and then it's so good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You pop the balloon and then you're with whoever.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, they get to interview you. The host interviews. Why did you pop your balloon? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Erika Jayne]

They're. She's not my type, or I didn't like his teeth, or I'm just not really into guys like you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? Teeth's a big thing for me.

[Erika Jayne]

I've always known that teeth is a. No, I've always. No, I've known this about her. I've known this about her. For teeth are. But you. And there's another. There's a male friend of mine who was my trainer for a long time, Alfonso Moretti. Teeth are a big thing for him, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

You are the two people that stick out to me that teeth are like. You guys both immediately notice teeth.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I immediately notice teeth. Am I saying that every person I've ever known that I'm close with has perfection teeth? No, but it is to me. If somebody has a dazzling smile and it's not a big bunch of veneers.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, you notice. I was thinking. You know what I was thinking? I was getting ready today to come over here, and Laia and I were talking. We were talking about first appearances. And you are someone that really takes in all things about people. You can tell. This is the thing that people don't know about Teddi. She can tell you what someone was wearing like down from top to bottom. She will know what they were wearing. That he was wearing these jeans, this T shirt, her hair color was this da da da da. I, on the other hand, could not tell you anything that was happening. I don't know. What I do know is how I felt about that person. But she can tell you everything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I also need a picture of every human I'm ever speaking about. Like, it would be helpful for me.

[Erika Jayne]

If I was to see Anonymous, please.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Anonymous, please.

[Erika Jayne]

Or Amy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Amy, because I think you can. If somebody's telling me a story and I can't see the person, it's not to judge the person, but it gives me more of an idea of who who the person is we're talking about. So like if you were telling me about a guy with before she would even tell me the story, I'd be like, can I see a picture?

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, she's very much like that. You always have.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I need visuals. Always.

[Erika Jayne]

You're. You are that person.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Erika Jayne]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

This one is I have a friend who I've known for over 30 years who I love very much. She could give the shirt off her back to you. Only thing is she stirs up drama and can be very manipulating. When she wants something and she doesn't want to come right out and ask for it what she wants, she will do things like invite you over and cook you a meal to soften you.

[Erika Jayne]

I know this type, but she does.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A lot to get her way in my opinion. The tactic is very toxic in my opinion. Anonymous, you don't like this person?

[Erika Jayne]

Well, I think that Anonymous feels used and that's a lot of it. I think that, you know, these friendships that we have, I don't like that. I don't like it. If you need something from me, just be straight up and ask me. Don't try to soften me up because then I feel like I'm being hustled and I don't like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's like when people text you like, hey, how are you? And then the next text it and you're like, you're good, I'm good, how are you? Blah blah. Then it's like, can you do blah blah? Then I'm like, f off. Just ask me. Like, I'll text somebody immediately and just ask for what I want. If that's my reason.

[Erika Jayne]

Hey, Teddy. Hey Erica. Can you X, Y, Z? Yes, I can. Yeah or no, I can't. This person, should this person be honest with this friend?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So do I keep the friendship and just keep him at distance? No. If. If this person you think is a manipulator, why even bother?

[Erika Jayne]

Well, she's 56 years old and just doesn't want to deal with drama anymore and she considers this drama. Anonymous considers this drama. And if it's, look, I'm 54 in like two months. I ain't fucking with nobody that's giving me drama. I can't do this. No paid. Yeah, well, that's a yeah, I can do paid drama. Hello.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I think that you just take a little.

[Erika Jayne]

But not listen. Friendships at this point in my life are meaningful. Relationships are meaningful, or they're not happening at all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I agree. I also think that I'm curious if Anonymous stopped reaching out to this person, if this person would seek a.

[Erika Jayne]

That is a very good point. That is a very good point. Maybe if Anonymous just stopped all communication, this person might quit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think so too. Because I think this person is really just taking what they think they can get. And if they think they can get.

[Erika Jayne]

Something from you, they'll keep trying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They'll keep trying. But if you just. You don't really care about the friendship, Take a little. Take a little fiverr and see what happens.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, take a break. Because it's using the word toxic. Stay toxic. But not like this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen, I. I'm kind of over the word toxic. Not to you.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, no, it's old as hell.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Toxic.

[Erika Jayne]

Narcissist.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm over it.

[Erika Jayne]

Trauma.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Trauma. Bonded.

[Erika Jayne]

Trauma. Bonded.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

None of it. I don't want it.

[Erika Jayne]

I don't want it anymore either.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I moved on.

[Erika Jayne]

Yes, we've moved on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, now we're. Guess what? This one's from Anonymous, too.

[Erika Jayne]

Guess What? And she's 18 years old and currently in a relationship with a man 20 years older than me. Ooh, let me take this. I was like, hold on. I almost broke. I know, I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I got so excited about this.

[Erika Jayne]

Let me take this. Okay. Dear Diamonds, I'm 18 years old and currently in a relationship with a man 20 years older than me. So you. He's what, 40? Okay. Both my family and friends are repeatedly telling me this is a huge red flag and there's a reason he's not with someone around his age. Okay, hold on. I have an answ that I like him a lot, and I feel really comfortable around him. I'm sure the only problem is he's recently becoming more controlling.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What is. No one knows anything about that.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, this is. Taylor made for me. It feel like. It feels like he's being overprotective, but I'm not sure that his intentions are good. My family and friends have distanced themselves from me due to this relationship. I don't have anyone to get, so. Okay, so Anonymous, let me tell you, this is standard for one of these relationships. Number one, 40 and 18. Do I hate it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Erika Jayne]

No, I don't hate it. Is it a red flag? No, because this is what men do. A lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them. I'm sure you feel comfortable around him because at 40, men have a sense of who they are. They're probably. He's probably accomplished, made some money, he knows experience, he knows what he wants. He's probably not out running the streets like a 20 year old or an 18 year old. Controlling. Yes, absolutely. And what he's doing is isolating you, my dear. And then you end up, of course, your friends and family fall away and you focus solely on him. This is what most men like this enjoy. This is what happened to me. I totally focused on Tom and, and you know, a lot of my friendships fell away and then it ended up just being Tom's life and living Tom's life. Now I'm not saying that's going to happen here, but I am saying that you're right on schedule.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep. And also here's the thing. It's to me, it's not the 20 years older, but if you're with a guy who's all of us. To me, something that Tom did do is you didn't meet him 20 years older than you and he had never been married before.

[Erika Jayne]

That's right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I sometimes worry about somebody who's never been connected.

[Erika Jayne]

Right. Who doesn't have. Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So let's check some past relationships. That's what I would. I would delve into that a little bit because we're one. We're also not sure if he's 38. 38 and 40 are big difference.

[Erika Jayne]

You think so?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I do.

[Erika Jayne]

What do you think the difference is?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think 40, like if you're a man and you're 40 and you've never been married, it's a big deal. You're a red flag.

[Erika Jayne]

Yes. I think that if you're 40, you've been married, you've had kids or you've at least been married, you're divorced or whatever, you've had a couple of blown up relationships.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

35. We can still fudge it. I think.

[Erika Jayne]

I think so. For 35.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep.

[Erika Jayne]

But 40 is a little like. I see your point. I see.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But let's check into some past relationships. If it seems like a very isolating time, then I'm worried he may, once you get a titch older, he might be more controlling and then he might get over you and do this to somebody else.

[Erika Jayne]

She's young though. This is an 18 year old person.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but what if he's. That's what I'm saying. But she can start 18 as well.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, if all the exes are 18, forget it. Run. Yeah, but if all of his exes are 18 years old. And if all of his exes. But if he tells you that all of his exes are crazy, then you have a problem.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then he's the crazy one.

[Erika Jayne]

He's the crazy one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Also. Is he hot?

[Erika Jayne]

There are a lot of hot 40 year olds.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's what I'm saying. If he's hot, more can be forgiven.

[Erika Jayne]

Of course, if he's hot or paying your rent, definitely.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What, Dear Abby?

[Erika Jayne]

Was he hot or paying your rent? I could.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is he hot paying your rent?

[Erika Jayne]

You can look the other way for a long, longtime girl. You're 18.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Your family will come back around when they want their rent.

[Erika Jayne]

When you're 21. Oh, yeah, they will come back around when you pay their rent.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, they will. Does he have a jet? Hold on. Know what this reminds me of?

[Erika Jayne]

What, babe?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When Yolanda sings if this was my plane. If this plane were mine.

[Erika Jayne]

Yolanda who?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Foster.

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Look, she's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Erika Jayne]

What am I looking at?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is her music video to David Foster that I hope Anonymous recreates for us and sends it. I'll post it.

[Erika Jayne]

I have never seen that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? I like to bring something new to the table.

[Erika Jayne]

My God, your face.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If this plane were mine.

[Erika Jayne]

But why?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm gonna put that out there for anybody.

[Erika Jayne]

Why are we singing about a plane?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because if this plane were hers, she could do anything. She could travel the world. There's a lot that could happen. If that plane was.

[Erika Jayne]

That's an odd thing to sing about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So either way, we're giv. You know, Anonymous.

[Erika Jayne]

Does your dad write a song about a plane? No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think. He barely lets me ride on his plane, and when he does, it's filled with cig smoke.

[Erika Jayne]

Is he a smoker?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my. Yes.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, John, John, John should get with Dorit. You know what? That's what you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my God.

[Erika Jayne]

Call your dad.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They could talk each other's ears off and smoke. And smoke. They both smoke American spirits.

[Erika Jayne]

I thought she was smoking P Funks, but whatever, she switched to American spirits. Okay, well, they could smoke American spirits, fly around on the plane, talk each other's ears.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I wonder if his plane is big enough, because one time I went on a plane with dorit. We were like. It was like a sponsored thing. And we got there and she was like this. Hold on. And she knew every detail about a plane, and she's like, this is a blah, blah, blah plane. I don't feel comfortable. And I was like, I do.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, look, I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The old Erica probably wouldn't Feel comfortable. But the new Erica's like. Let me on.

[Erika Jayne]

Erica's fine with whatever. The new Erica. Well, it's not the. It's the return, Derek. Okay, that's what we need to do. We need to get your father and Dorit together.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my. I'm trying.

[Erika Jayne]

Might be a good idea.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The problem also is. But Dorit can't have any beverages anymore. He doesn't like when girls drink alcohol.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, but she doesn't get crazy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It doesn't matter.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, that's his thing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, he just. He's never drank. He's not. It's not like he's a recovering alcoholic. He just like.

[Erika Jayne]

He's just not a drinker.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's not a drinker.

[Erika Jayne]

He just doesn't like it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But he feels like whenever he's. In my opinion, girls drink and then they get super chatty.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And he doesn't like it.

[Erika Jayne]

She.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I don't think my sister and I have helped that theory.

[Erika Jayne]

The drinking or the chatting?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because we'll sit there and we'll have champagne and then we're like.

[Erika Jayne]

And he's like, shut up. Yeah. Up. But if. But maybe they could smoke cigarettes and talk.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They've met. I mean, they didn't meet and like, they met with his girlfriend there. Hi, Kristen.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, my God. Does she listen to the show?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I doubt it. If so, that's humiliating. Kristen, we love you, but if it doesn't work out, we've got Dorit here in the corner.

[Erika Jayne]

Wait, we're saying he really has a girlfriend right now? I thought he was single. I'm over here talking like this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, he has a girlfriend.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I didn't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think Kristen's gonna be upset about you saying that one bit. Kristin is the coolest chick ever.

[Erika Jayne]

I had no idea. Listen, I'm so very sorry. I thought John was single.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Erika Jayne]

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Next, questions? Oh, God. Here you go. My husband suffers from anxiety and it's very up and Down. We are in a down phase where he has abruptly. He has anxiety about everything, but mainly the future, dying, death in general, his physical image. We're 31, no kids, and a dog. What are you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're Dink Wads. What's Dink Wad? Oh, hold on. This is a psa. Dink Wads is dual income, no kids. Listen, what I'm. I. I'm not interested in being a dinkwad.

[Erika Jayne]

I would like to be a dinkwad. I have an adult kid and he's got his own, so he's no problem.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't know about dinkwad. I'd rather just lots of income.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, me too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He talks to a therapist here and there. But so against medication. How can I help when I do not suffer from the same anxiety? You know what? I suffer from anxiety. So do I take this one. Oh, you.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, but you go and then I'll back you up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He wants to start exercising more. I want him to, but he's really into golf. For me, the biggest thing with my anxiety is I don't want people that don't have anxiety to try to tell me how to fix my anxiety.

[Erika Jayne]

This is true.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or tell me to relax.

[Erika Jayne]

This is also true.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Also, if you decided to. That you were okay with being somebody with anxiety disorder, which I have beyond belief, then you kind of just sit there and you go through the waves. And as long as he's not being. I was gonna say a dick wad, but that's not a dink wad. As long as he's not being a dick wad to you during his anxiety. And he just needs a little love and support. Give it to him. And then also maybe say you could go on walks together, you could do things together. But don't start trying to coach him through his anxiety when you've never struggled with it.

[Erika Jayne]

I agree with that. But also, too, I think there are some things. I don't know how he feels about it. There are some things you can do to take away some of the effects of anxiety, like over caffeine. I know this sounds stupid, but even small things can make a difference if you're against medication. I'm on medication. I had to. I was forced to. Just not forced to, but I really was. My life kind of forced me into it. Like I couldn't. I couldn't do it without it. I will say this. I remember when I had my very first panic attack when I was 30 years old, and I did not know what it was. And it can be Terrifying. And until someone said to me, you know, you'll never die of an anxiety attack. And that really just took everything down for me. But a lot of it is, you should see a therapist. You know, he sees a therapist from time to time. Make that more frequent, because that does help. And if you sweat and you run around and you do some other things and hang out with people that have anxiety because they know what it is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And also at this point, I have anxiety about even going to therapy. But there are places, and this is not an ad, but you can go to like places like betterhelp.com and you can see a therapist online because booking appointments and doing all that kind of stuff.

[Erika Jayne]

Sometimes I can imagine where you are right now. Everything is really overwhelming.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's annoying. Like, I'm so excited that I found someone that could do my blood work right down the street instead of driving to Santa Monica. Not that I drive, but have somebody else drive.

[Erika Jayne]

Right? Exactly. You have someone here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So it's. But just give them a little time. And normally if you don't feel the pressure of your significant other or person, it'll go away. But take action. You gotta move your body. You gotta breathe.

[Erika Jayne]

You do have to move your body.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

For me, meditation or either, like, I mean, I even go in the bathtub and we'll put ice in it and like, get that, like, and then it'll kind of go away. But if I just lay there in my anxiety, it's very hard. That being said, you're gonna have to have him call the Dear Erica and Teddi show because we don't want you coaching him through this.

[Erika Jayne]

No, you have to. And unless you've actually, like had one of those heart racing moments where you thought you were lit. I remember, like feeling like I was coming out of my skin. I felt like I was literally going to come out of my body. That is the most uncomfortable place to be. I felt like one time I was going to throw myself out of a window. Like, I'm going way, way, way back. It just like felt very uncomfortable around. Things like that can be crippling.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. It's social anxiety tied into it then that's really strong. If he also has social anxiety and it's infecting, affecting your relationships too. Just give him. You quit trying to make him come with you. Just go make him better.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, you cannot make him better. That's a, that's a really. He has to take those baby steps forward and it's not going to just go away.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I agree.

[Erika Jayne]

Dear Diamonds I recently turned 24, left my soul sucking corporate job, and I'm moving to Charleston.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you're going to be on Southern.

[Erika Jayne]

Charm from D.C. for my boyfriend of five years. Yes, boyfriend of five years. We also have a dog together, so I'm hoping to get a ring by the end of the year. Anyways, I have no idea what to do for a career and feel so much pressure to make a shit ton of money and have everything figured out. Do y'all have advice for navigating your 20s onlyfans? And if I should prioritize saving and stability or taking risks and going on adventures like OnlyFans? No, she didn't say that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She didn't say it. We just added in the onlyfans, Jenna.

[Erika Jayne]

And thank you for adding your name, Jenna. Your 20s suck. I'm just gonna put that right out there. Your 20s. This is exactly where you need to be in your 20s. Not knowing what you're doing. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's. That's par for the course of the twenties.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, what. How old were you when you started Erika Jane or you started the Housewives?

[Erika Jayne]

I returned to performing when I started my Erika Jane project when I was like, 34.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

And then Housewives is like, how old am I? 43.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I think I started Housewives then turned into the pod all in by Teddi. It all kind of happened around the same time. And I think I was in my early 30s.

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah, I think when you're early. I remember my 30th birthday and feeling certainly more comfortable in my own skin on that day. So the twenties, I mean, provided. Here's the thing, Jenna. Don't do something you can't. Course. Correct. Right. Like, don't do something that you know is gonna impact you for the rest of your life. That's bad. So you're allowed in your 20s not to know what the fuck you're doing. And you're allowed to, you know, discover yourself. So don't be too hard on yourself. Just stay busy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And if boyfriend of five years is making you feel guilty about it and you're moving there and that's why you're feeling panicked, because he lives in Charleston, blah, blah, blah. But know what I have heard is pretty lucrative and kind of fun to do while you're in Charleston is be a real estate agent.

[Erika Jayne]

Really?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

Where'd you get this info?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I got this info from my sister's friend who has one there. Oh, so she's like a younger, cute girl. She is a real estate Agent. She makes good money. She has small children. She's able to live her life, but also do what she loves. But I don't know. If you're not into real estate, then this isn't a great plan. But if you're totally just looking to make some money, Charleston is up and coming with these beautiful homes.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, my God. Charleston is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it's not a long. It's not a long process to get your real estate license.

[Erika Jayne]

No. And it's. South Carolina is so open for business and really easy to do business in.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or just slide into Craig's dms. Let us know how that.

[Erika Jayne]

Or just call Chef Rose.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We know Jenna has.

[Erika Jayne]

We know Jenna has a boyfriend, but she may not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She may not when she sees what Charleston has to offer.

[Erika Jayne]

That's right. Charleston is great, by the way. We should go to Charleston.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's go to Charles. I want to go to Charleston.

[Erika Jayne]

I haven't been in so long.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. Dear Diamonds, is it wrong to secretly meet up for coffee with an old, close male friend? Even though spouse is very jealous? I feel like life is short and it's sad to miss out on important, platonic friendships, but hard to navigate with a controlling.

[Erika Jayne]

Got a question for you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This was anonymous.

[Erika Jayne]

Okay. Can men be platonic? No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can men? Or can men and women be friends?

[Erika Jayne]

I have male platonic friends that are straight. Yes, I do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That aren't your bosses.

[Erika Jayne]

That's right. I do. I have two or three. It's never been inappropriate. They have their own thing now. That is a very, very rare.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How long have you been friends with them?

[Erika Jayne]

Over 20 years.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's my point. But if it's a new. Yeah, over 20 years.

[Erika Jayne]

When you kind of start out together.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And you're like, my high school friends, like, we brought up Shep. Shep, for example, I have been friends with since the seventh grade.

[Erika Jayne]

I was gonna say middle school. So, like, Shep is like, there's no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Way Shep's gonna try.

[Erika Jayne]

No fucking way. And there's no way you're ever like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm never gonna be interested. It's like, we've known each other too long. But also, what is your need so much to have these friendships if you know it's gonna upset your controlling husband? If you're really wanting to move on from the controlling husband, leave the husband.

[Erika Jayne]

I think it's a. Yeah, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Here. Because you're going to pay the consequences of meeting up with someone for coffee if you're married to a controlling person if you're really not into them, it's not worth it. It's not, it's not worth it. Don't do it. And because you're just going to pay. You're going to pay. And it's. I, I guess, look, I'm also on the other side of things. Looking back, maybe you need, maybe this person needs that sort of friendship or needs that and is not getting it at home. But here's what ends up happening.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's gonna fall in love with him.

[Erika Jayne]

No, but even if you don't, even if it's just quote innocent, if that husband finds out that jealous, controlling, he's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Gonna assume it is.

[Erika Jayne]

Exactly. And then you're gonna have to do all of this shit to convince him that it isn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It wasn't an affair, it was just a friendship.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, you're emotionally cheating.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And you know what? At that point, you may as well just cheat. So. So it's this, just don't do it.

[Erika Jayne]

Don't do it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And if your husband is, if you love him and he's an amazing guy, you can say to him, hey, I'm.

[Erika Jayne]

Gonna go have coffee with so and.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So, you know, me and John, we're.

[Erika Jayne]

Gonna get you Johnson.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Also, I think it's also dependent if the person lives in town or not. Like if I were to tell somebody that was a controlling relationship person, hey, my friend Ben, who's coming in from whatever, he's coming into town. I haven't seen him in 15 years.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, I think also, look, we're grown women, we should be able to be friends with everybody. But here's what ends up happening. Certain things are just not worth it. It's gonna cause problems at home.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

And it's not worth it. Now if you're telling me, hey, I'm really unhappy at home and I'm thinking about stepping out on my husband, well, that's another situation. But coffee, you're gonna pay a price for that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're gonna get in so many fights over a cup of coffee with your fucking.

[Erika Jayne]

Worth it. I'd rather you fuck him and then just be like, get some dick and be like, yeah, I did.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And cause a scandal in your town. Anonymous.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, maybe not even, but I'm just saying at least I'm not if I'm gonna get bitched at, right? Yeah, I'm gonna get bitched at one time for the stuff.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I want to at least gain something other than that, a non fat latte from it.

[Erika Jayne]

Right. If I'm gonna get Cussed out and all this suspicion. At least let me have had some passion about it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, for Pete's sakes.

[Erika Jayne]

Not some flat white.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. We also listen, sis.

[Erika Jayne]

Look, sis. See, check it out. Sis.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sis.

[Erika Jayne]

Here's to you, sis.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, we're saying sis because we don't.

[Erika Jayne]

Know our Diet Coke.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Our Diet Coke says sis on the side. And then there's like a little thing that we could sip, scan and share. We don't know what any of this means other than we like Coca Cola, other than that we needed a soda because nobody got us a flat white today. Or a non fat chai, which, honestly, I would have gone out to lunch for.

[Erika Jayne]

Why do you do the non fat? Is it just. You don't like the milk fat?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't like thick.

[Erika Jayne]

I got it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I also don't like, like the other stuff that's not even milk.

[Erika Jayne]

No, I. I don't like an oat oat milk or an avocado milk or some other shit that everybody's doing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I just.

[Erika Jayne]

Just drink coffee.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I drank milk when I was born, so I feel like milk's okay.

[Erika Jayne]

Did you like milk as a kid? I wasn't big on it, no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I had it in my cereal this morning.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, nice. Whole half. Skim skin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I always do skim just because I don't like the thickness.

[Erika Jayne]

The thickness just. But, you know, I put half and half in my coffee this morning. Ooh, I like half and half.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? I do, too. What? If I'm at a diner?

[Erika Jayne]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love how we just go off on a, you know.

[Erika Jayne]

What's your diner order?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

My diner order, if I have no concerns, is scrambled eggs with cheese, a side of hash browns.

[Erika Jayne]

Come on, Waffle House. I can see it. I can smell it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bacon, well done.

[Erika Jayne]

Yep. And a Coke.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Diet Coke crisp. A Diet Coke.

[Erika Jayne]

I knew it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And a side of sourdough toast.

[Erika Jayne]

Okay, the only change is not a Diet Coke, a regular Coke, but the exact same order.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then I mix it all together as if it's one.

[Erika Jayne]

I don't mix it all together, but I have the exact cheesy eggs, Cheesy eg, crispy bacon. Now I want sourdough toast. You know what? There's not a Waffle House.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, there's not a Waffle House here. And I got all excited. They opened a Norm's near my house.

[Erika Jayne]

Where is it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's closed. Why? And Jerry's Deli's closed. Like, all the options for this. And I gotta tell you, these health Food, restaurants.

[Erika Jayne]

Terrible.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They don't do it the same.

[Erika Jayne]

They don't do it the same.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They don't do it the same.

[Erika Jayne]

I also like a good old grilled cheese. Like a nasty, grimy, buttery grilled cheese.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, dipped in. Do you like it dipped in tomato soup?

[Erika Jayne]

Not really. Just a little bit? No, I like my. I'm a pretty. I'm a purist with my grilled cheese.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, she's a purist.

[Erika Jayne]

Guys, what about Mel's? Do you go to Mel's?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I used to love Mel's when I lived on Sunset.

[Erika Jayne]

But there's one up here, isn't there?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't like the layout. For me, it's also. It's not. I love ambiance, but.

[Erika Jayne]

No, no, I like it, like, when there's a real diner with a counter.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erika Jayne]

I want to go on a diner tour.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Maybe that's our next thing. We pod from diners giving advice to people because look how well we did it.

[Erika Jayne]

Local advice from local advice from diners.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've got a new show. Pitch, everyone.

[Erika Jayne]

Diner. Diner talk.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Diner talk. Oh, my gosh. Diner talk.

[Erika Jayne]

Diner talk.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would rather go to a diner than dinner.

[Erika Jayne]

I'd rather go to a diner.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Timing is right.

[Erika Jayne]

I like diners.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me too. Did anybody ask any of these questions? No, they didn't. But you guys can ask more questions for us next week. But next week is not going to be advice.

[Erika Jayne]

Next week you guys get to ask us questions and grill us.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I'm sure Erica will be open and ready for it.

[Erika Jayne]

Oh, yeah. Like Teddy. Like Teddy. Teddy's gonna be hold back Teddy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is why we love each other. We're yin and Yang.

[Erika Jayne]

Yin and yang.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, thanks, guys, for tuning in for another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. We were a touch rough on the advice, but we think we're right.

[Erika Jayne]

I think we're right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're always right. Right?

[Erika Jayne]

We're conservative in our thoughts. You know, I don't think we really.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Think about the other person.

[Erika Jayne]

Well, no, but I think that some of the advice that we've given is like, you know, look, you're gonna pay for this. It's not worth it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We've most of these things we've already done. Fuck, yeah, we've already done. And we know what the aftermath is.

[Erika Jayne]

It's just not worth it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's just not worth it is what we have to say here.

[Erika Jayne]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thanks, guys.

[Erika Jayne]

Thanks, guys. Stay toxic.

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