Diamonds in the Rough: You Filmed with Who?!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Diamonds in the Rough: You Filmed with Who?!"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: Diamonds in the Rough: You Filmed with Who?!
• Release Date: March 21, 2025

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Introduction: Overcoming Adversity [03:07 - 07:21]

The episode begins with Teddi Mellencamp and Erica opening up about recent personal challenges. Teddi shares her harrowing experience with severe health issues, revealing that she spent time in the ICU battling multiple brain tumors. Reflecting on her absence, Teddi states, "Even in my worst of times, I really missed doing the pod with Erica" (03:21). Erica recalls receiving a heartfelt yet concerning voice note from Teddi, which initially made her question if something was wrong, highlighting the depth of their partnership.

Rebuilding Their Podcast Amid Recovery [07:21 - 12:00]

As Teddi transitions back to normal life, she discusses the slow return to podcasting. "We’re taking everything slow because it's better to come back when...," Teddi explains (06:37). Erica and Teddi delve into how Teddi's health struggles affected their podcast schedule, with Teddi mentioning, "The pod. It's been weird because I'm so behind on shows now" (32:29). Despite these setbacks, Teddi remains optimistic, noting improvements in both her health and personal life.

Navigating Relationships and Dating Post-Recovery [12:00 - 23:00]

A significant portion of the episode focuses on Teddi's dating experiences during her recovery. She candidly shares her frustrations with a past relationship, detailing a particularly distressing phone call from a man named Bob who questioned their future together despite her health battles. "At that point, I wasn’t really in a place," Teddi admits (17:28). The conversation shifts to Teddi's current dating life, where she excitedly talks about going on new dates. Erica probes into Teddi's readiness, questioning, "Did the doctor say you could date?" (19:48), to which Teddi responds affirmatively, sharing positive experiences with her new dates.

Understanding Love Languages and Personal Growth [23:00 - 31:42]

Teddi and Erica engage in a heartfelt discussion about love languages, emphasizing the importance of understanding how they express and receive love. They explore different love languages, such as words of affirmation and physical touch, sharing personal insights. Teddi reflects, "Words of affirmation came out on top for me because I'm so awkward getting a compliment" (25:41). Erica adds, "When you look at critiques... you can say, 'Is there anything here that you agree with?'" (26:53), highlighting the growth they've both experienced in handling criticism constructively.

Business and Podcast Updates [31:42 - 33:14]

Shifting gears, Teddi updates listeners on her business ventures and the status of their podcast. "Business is good. Everything is good with business," she shares (32:20). Despite being behind on podcast episodes, Teddi expresses determination to catch up, stating, "Things are starting to smooth itself out versus when I wasn't able to be here" (32:56). Erica reassures listeners that Teddi's resilience is helping to steer both their personal and professional lives back on track.

Returning to Horseback Riding and Personal Interests [33:14 - 37:16]

Teddi discusses her passion for horseback riding and the therapeutic benefits it provides her during recovery. She recounts her experience riding a new horse, Tiffany, and the emotional connection she feels with her horse, Toad. "I can feel it... I know myself well enough to know when to pull the plug" (30:49). Erica supports Teddi's decision to return to riding, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and safety in their activities together.

Interactions with Celebrities and Public Perception [37:16 - 36:58]

The conversation takes a lighter turn as Teddi shares an amusing encounter with a celebrity who offered unsolicited advice on her treatment. "He said, 'I just want to make sure you're following the Eastern medicine and the holistic route,'" Teddi recounts (33:44). Erica reacts humorously, suggesting Teddi respond with sarcastic remarks, which Teddi playfully embraces. They discuss the changed public perception post-recovery, noting a shift towards more supportive interactions from fans and acquaintances.

Conclusion: Embracing the Future Together [37:07 - 38:09]

As the episode wraps up, Teddi and Erica express their mutual appreciation and excitement for the future. Teddi mentions, "Things are coming back together with the kids, with life," (32:56), highlighting a renewed sense of balance. Erica offers words of encouragement, urging Teddi not to dwell on past difficulties. The hosts conclude with heartfelt affirmations, reinforcing their bond and commitment to continuing their podcast journey.

Notable Quotes:

• Teddi Mellencamp (03:21): "Even in my worst of times, I really missed doing the pod with Erica."
• Erica (07:07): "I was happy to come home."
• Teddi Mellencamp (17:28): "Are you fucking kidding me, Bob?"
• Erica (19:48): "Is this okay? Like, are you okay?"
• Teddi Mellencamp (25:41): "I wouldn't have thought that my love language is words of affirmation because I'm so awkward getting a compliment."

Conclusion:

In this heartfelt episode of "Two Ts In A Pod," Teddi Mellencamp and Erica navigate through personal struggles, recovery, and the complexities of returning to their professional lives. The candid discussions about health, relationships, and personal growth offer listeners an authentic glimpse into the hosts' resilience and unwavering friendship. By blending vulnerability with humor, Teddi and Erica create a compelling narrative that resonates with anyone facing their own "diamonds in the rough."

Transcript

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[Erica]

Hey, babe.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hey.

[Erica]

I don't even know what to say other than it's been rough.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Could our name be any more fitting than it is?

[Erica]

You know, how many. Can I. How many times I've thought about this? This, like, could our name be any more fitting?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it. I can tell you this. Like, even in my worst of times, I was like, I really missed doing the pod with Erica.

[Erica]

Good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And they're like, you need to wait a second. Like, you have a. Like, you. Your brain is swelling right now. You're on a ton of salt pills and prednisone, and you're still in the icu, which I, like, didn't really comprehend. And I'm like, what? We could do it from here. Let's bring the mics in.

[Erica]

Oh, no. I heard. I heard. I heard you were ready to work from the icu, and they were like, no, no, no, no, no. You know, I was in New York when we were doing the pod, and then you left this really heartbreaking voice note that you had a migraine. You can't walk and you can't see, but this guy's like, this wasn't like, hey, I have a headache. This was like a voice that I never heard come out of your mouth, and it just sounded like you were in a ton of pain. And then everything happened after that. But it. You know, obviously I started thinking back, like, how long had you and I been sitting across from each other? And did I miss something? I know that sounds so crazy, but I kept saying. I kept replaying in my mind looking, like, going through every detail. Her hands weren't shaking. Like, did I miss something? Like, how could you sit here with me for months and be so clear? And then the next day, hey, I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

In the hospital and I'm serious. Going on for six months to a year.

[Erica]

Exactly. That's what I kept thinking. Like, we've been doing this pod. Like, when I stood in for Tamra for, like, the. Now this. Diamonds in the Rough. We've been doing it for, like, six, seven months. That means that whole time they were growing and you showed zero fucking signs of it, at least to me, while I was here. I don't know what happens, you know, outside, but in front of me, two feet away from me. And, yes, you're going through separation and all of that other stuff, which. But there was never any type of thing that I was like, huh. That's interesting. Or, wow, is Teddy. Is there something wrong with it? Nothing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I'm not, like, more a complainer type, but I definitely had felt headaches for a very, very long time.

[Erica]

Did you think they were normal or were they just bad and you chalked it up to stress?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I chalked it up to stress, and I would take 1,000, like, leaves or Motrins, and I was just trying to kind of figure it out. And then where it got really bad that day. Yeah. Was when I was with Tamara in New Orleans.

[Erica]

And.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So, anyways, so I go to the horse show. I'm leaky the first day, upset. I asked the doctor, he says I can ride. Then I speak to a friend of mine, and she said, you know, my mom's had this, and she hasn't wanted to leave the house for seven months. And that's when I was like, you know, I gotta take care of my mental health. I wanna ride, I wanna see my friends, I wanna do some. I mean, I'm only podcasting twice a week now, where I.

[Erica]

Good, good, good, good. Every day, like. Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Every day, multiple shows. And it'll switch, it'll go back, but, like, we're taking everything slow because.

[Erica]

Well, because.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, because, you know, it's better to. It's better to come back when.

[Erica]

Well, I think you. You don't. You also don't need to be tired. You're already fighting. You know what I mean? So your podcast, it should be fun and light. Does that make sense? Like, something that you enjoy doing?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So I have been fighting and doing the best that I can, and some days I feel shitty and some days I can't. I don't. But the kids are good. Life is good, so I'm pretty happy. How does it feel to be back in la?

[Erica]

I was happy to come home.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You were ready?

[Erica]

Yeah. It was nice to go, and it's always nice to come home. I love going. I had great time while I was on Broadway. Thank you to everybody that came to the shows. But I was happy to come home. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, so this is a big topic besides RHOBH and Broadway. You.

[Erica]

Oh, yeah. Oh, the Denise.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I almost forgot what you filmed with Denise.

[Erica]

I did.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's weird. You didn't mention that in any of the six to seven months we were potting.

[Erica]

I wasn't allowed. Teddi, whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm pretty sure you told me about some other things that you're not allowed to tell me, so.

[Erica]

Oh, dude, come on. Wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? I was like that dirty dog didn't mention one little peep. Guess what I'm doing on Thursday.

[Erica]

Well, I wasn't allowed to talk about it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She had laryngitis. She couldn't tell me. I haven't.

[Erica]

I mean, I thought it was 1999.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what?

[Erica]

So there you go.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's gonna be your new thing soon.

[Erica]

1999.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I did hear the show is good and apparently news to me. Me and Denise are no longer in a feud because she was reaching out to me. I didn't know she was, but Kyle told me I gotta give a shout out to Sutton. I don't know if you're getting along with her or not. You don't have to answer.

[Erica]

I know she reached out to Kyle right away, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she gave me two excellent recommendations.

[Erica]

Nice.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And that has changed the course of how I've been feeling.

[Erica]

Good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I'm very grateful to Sutton for that. I did appreciate the help. So thank you. Sutton. I can tell you it was crickets from Garcelle. Didn't hear one peep. Not one person told me that they were checking in through any sort of interwebs either. But not to be shocked. And then we gotta get into Chrissy Teigen. She said on Watch what Happens Live that you, Erica, are her most desired Bravo lab to have on a panel at BravoCon that she would wanna moderate with you.

[Erica]

Yeah. You know, we've never met, but we have messaged each other on Instagram and stuff like that. I think that Chrissy is. You know, Chrissy's somebody. That's her personality. What you see, what you get.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She made the press because she said she responded to hateful comments on Instagram, saying, honestly, like, what happened to just thinking things? Remember thinking things? Like, you'd go through a magazine, you'd be like, oh, that person looks like, oh, I would never have that haircut. Those teeth suck. Like we all used to do it.

[Erica]

But you can't write it or say it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

It's one thing to have that inner monologue, but if you let it out, either speaking or writing it down, that's where you get in trouble.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, especially now.

[Erica]

That's my point.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you sign up yet for the apps?

[Erica]

Okay, so before you got sick, I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thought we were handling this well.

[Erica]

We were, but I got.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This has been five weeks. I have been out of the runnings for five weeks.

[Erica]

Hold on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nothing.

[Erica]

No, girl, hold on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm doing shit.

[Erica]

I know we're talking. We're worried about you. Fuck my dating life. I just. I got. I Made it all the way on the profile to Hinge, but I did not remember when I called you and I said, the pictures. And I said, I don't know if you remember this. I said, what pictures do I upload? And you're like, you know what, Erica? Just be yourself. Because you had told me that you had uploaded a series of pictures and that Hinge had given you a prompt as to which ones it thinks would do best for your profile. And we had this discussion and I said, you know what? I just don't have anything other than what I am, which is this. And? And you were like, you know what? Then.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then that's the upload.

[Erica]

That's exactly what you said.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You haven't done it.

[Erica]

No, I haven't. Which means maybe I'm not taking it that seriously.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Maybe you already are hooking up with someone that you haven't told me about. Like the Denise filming.

[Erica]

No. If that were the case, if I was getting dicked down really good, I would have told you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay?

[Erica]

But it also, I haven't seen you, and maybe you have more important things on your mind other than my dick appointments.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen, I love a dick appointment. I. I love to talk about it.

[Erica]

Well, I don't have anything to currently brag about right now, but I'm gonna go get some.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I've got some.

[Erica]

If nothing. What?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've got some real doozies for you.

[Erica]

Wait, you've had some dick appointments?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I have.

[Erica]

Talk about living your life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm not gonna say I've had some dick appointments, but I'm gonna say that I've had some real crazy shit happen while I was in the hospital. Uh huh. Okay, so what? I'm gonna make up the person's name. I think I talked about him before. I don't know. I was all tumored up then, but I was super tumored up. But I had gone on probably four or five dates with him. I saw him.

[Erica]

Wait, is this the guy that you once knew before?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Erica]

Okay, so we're talking a different guy. Okay. All right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was a one and done, Right?

[Erica]

Okay, Right. But he was nice and he reached out, whatever, but it's just not for you. I remember that. Okay, I don't know about this dude.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, so this was one where I, like, made my assistant go with me to the restaurant just to make sure he wasn't.

[Erica]

And you met him on the hinge?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I met him on the hinge. He was great. He was funny, he was nice. I met his friends, we hung out four or five Times. The last time I saw him was two days before hospitalization. Tumor time. I remember saying. I just gotten back from the super bowl where I was filming with Tamara for none other than coffee mate. Then I come home, we meet up with him and friends. We watch the Super Bowl. I'm like, I don't feel like going out.

[Erica]

Okay. I'm just following along the timeline. Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. So I went to work the day of the Super Bowl.

[Erica]

Can I just fucking. What the fuck is this?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But you have to remember, at this point, I was nesting. So I couldn't come home and stay at my house.

[Erica]

Is this happening? Like, are we having this conversation? This is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you have no idea what's fucking coming.

[Erica]

I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You have no fucking idea. Okay, babe.

[Erica]

So we're at this. You're at his place watching the super bowl with some friends.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes. Because the day before and the day before that were the two days we worked the Super Bowl. But Tam and I were like, we want to get the fuck out of here before the super bowl starts.

[Erica]

Right? Before it gets.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Put us on the 6am flight.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Went over, you know, had a cheese plate, hung out with the friends, ate whatever. It's a nice time. I don't think you know anything of it. It's neither here nor there. Like, I'm like, he's a cute guy. This is fun. Then I come home, nesting, Right? Nest. It's my turn to be here. To be here, right? So Edwin leaves. I come home. I start. I have to. I film the pod. And then the next day happens, and I call. At first, I called my friend Val, and I'm like, hey, can. Can you take me to the hospital? I think I'm dying. Something's wrong with me. And she's like, shoot, honey, I'm already at the hospital with our friend who's getting a necklace.

[Erica]

Only in this town. He may be dying, but I'm here babysitting our friend with a neck lift. I can't believe we're saying this shit. Fuck.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I had to call Edwin. I'm like, hey, Edwin. I'm like, I think something's really wrong with me. I can't walk. And I had to just cancel the pod. And I never flake on work, and I can't sit. And he's like, okay, I'll take you. So he takes me to the emergency room. Whatever. We find out all about the tumors. Needless to say, I forget about Bob or whatever.

[Erica]

Whatever the hell. Your guy. The super bowl guy? Yeah, the. The. Whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Super Bowl.

[Erica]

Bob.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I forgot about him. Then everybody takes my phone away because they know how I get on that while post on social medias or I'll call people, I'll do whatever. So the phone's been away for like five days. I was apparently supposed to see Bob. Who had the phone, Jen.

[Erica]

Oh, that's safe.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Whatever. So anyway, Jen is monitoring my phone calls and my messages and whatever. And I was supposed to see Bob, let's claim, on Thursday.

[Erica]

Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I go into the hospital on Tuesday.

[Erica]

Tuesday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Around Saturday. Jen's like, bob's called a good amount of times.

[Erica]

We might need to let him know what's going on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I'm like, okay, you can tell him. So Jen just calls and she's like, hey, Bob, it's Jen. You know, I just wanted to let.

[Erica]

You know that now at this point, no one, like, not even online, no one knew you were in the hospital at this point.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

At this point, I think some people had seen online. I don't know that Bob is someone that would probably be readily checking the. The.

[Erica]

I wish this was liquor because I am really this story.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, you're gonna. It's a long one, but it's gonna be worth it.

[Erica]

Keep going.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So anyway, she's like, hi, Bob, it's Teddy's friend Jen. I just wanted to let you know she has multiple brain tumors and they've just removed them. And that's why she hasn't called you back or.

[Erica]

Well, that's an excuse, you know, I mean, like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, and if you have eyes in the world wide web, you could probably find this out for yourself. And he's like, okay, whenever I can talk to her, that'd be great. I'm not allowed the phone for another couple days. Then I get the phone, I call Bob back, we have conversations. But at this point, I'm still not a functioning human.

[Erica]

Right. You're just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I'm honestly like, I got you, I got you. So then we cut to about a week later. I may be out of the ICU at this point.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I'm still with nurses inside of a facility.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm just not in the icu.

[Erica]

Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bob sends a text, which I couldn't read texts at this point. Then Bob is like, hey, do you have a second to have a conversation? And I'm like, sure. I pick up the phone and Bob's like, I just have to ask you a question. I was talking with my mom and we both need to know if you're going to be in a place to have more. More kids.

[Erica]

You're lying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are you fucking kidding me, Bo?

[Erica]

You're lying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. And I was already in a fucked up place in general. And then I did the worst thing possible. You want to know what?

[Erica]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. I at least knew better than to say yes. But I cried.

[Erica]

Well, that's okay. You're allowed to cry. What's wrong with that? You're a human.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I cried cause I felt like, so bizarre that this was happening.

[Erica]

It is bizarre. And you're allowed to cry. That's normal. I would have like. Yes. This is not okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I cried and I said, you're really hurting my feelings.

[Erica]

I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think now's the time to have this conversation.

[Erica]

No. Ever. Really, like, fucker.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, we could get into this at another time when maybe I'm healed, but like, I'm still in a hot. Like, just so you know, I'm still getting daily fucking enemas. I'm not. I just.

[Erica]

Wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, I am in. I am on steroids. I am on salt pills. I am mean as a fucking snake.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I am sweating to death. I am still in the hospital and Bob thinks this is the time to talk about children. So either way, me and Bob.

[Erica]

So how did you wrap that call up?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I don't really know how I wrapped that call up because at that point I wasn't really in a place. But then, don't you worry. I felt the need to wait a.

[Erica]

Little bit and rage text him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then I fucking lost.

[Erica]

Like, said, do I know this woman or do I know this woman?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was.

[Erica]

I've seen it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was. Honestly, I like, channeled Rinna at her meanest via text. And then he was like, wow. I thought we were okay after our last phone call. And I was like. I wasn't coherent during our last phone call, but I am now. And I was like, really Let him have it good. And now we're back to being fine, but we're not going to go on anymore.

[Erica]

I don't. I think maybe we just pause on the dating for right now.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've already been on more dates.

[Erica]

Oh, fuck you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

With new people.

[Erica]

You know what? I can't get a date. And here you are.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I'm on a second date. So I went on a first date and now I'm pre. Pre the thing. And then I went on a second date yesterday, actually. He's really cute and nice. Do you want to pick? Tell me if you think I'm right.

[Erica]

Is this okay? Like, are you okay?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Erica]

Did the doctor say you could date.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I know they could tell.

[Erica]

You could ride horses, but are you okay to date? I guess that's right. Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Stupid face in this photo. But he's cute.

[Erica]

He is cute. Wait a second.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, see? He's cute.

[Erica]

What are his intentions? Do I need to get on the phone with this fool?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he didn't know who I was. And he also said the word. He goes. I'm confused now that I follow you on Instagram. All these bravo lebs keep following me.

[Erica]

He really doesn't know who you are.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He doesn't know.

[Erica]

Thank God. Shit. Thank God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But he's. It's weird. He's, like, so nice that I'm like, is. Then I get panicked. But I have been on two dates.

[Erica]

How did they go?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They went really well. Because I have to say, this is going to sound crazy, but when you're in the hospital and when you're like. And Edwin has been amazing.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, beyond.

[Erica]

I know. He showed up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He showed up. He has been there. He has been amazing. Caregiver.

[Erica]

Because that's, you know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I hadn't had, like, a true hug.

[Erica]

Oh, wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what I mean?

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, friend hugs are very different then.

[Erica]

Yes, they are very different.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I felt this, like, weird, like, sadness. And then also, you know when you're, like, kind of talking to somebody on the phone and you get that little, like, butterfly? Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Erica]

You got the butterfly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So that's.

[Erica]

Live your damn life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So we'll see. I mean, who knows?

[Erica]

How about this? How about we just take it day by day?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He hasn't asked me to have children yet, so that's. We're on the up and up for Bob.

[Erica]

I am just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What do we call this one? What should his name be, now that you've seen his picture?

[Erica]

I don't know. Let me think about that. He's in his 40s.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Maybe he's 35.

[Erica]

Okay. What. Can you tell me what he does for a living?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He does. He works in events.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nice.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, very kind. Like one of those people that's really assuring. And I am.

[Erica]

You respond to that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I apparently respond to that. Which is going to get us into our love language.

[Erica]

I already did the test, girl.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I did the test, too, and I'm frightened. For what? Ours. Mine is embarrassing.

[Erica]

No. At this point, nothing is embarrassing. What do you mean, nothing is embarrassing?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What do you mean? Daily enemas aren't embarrassing?

[Erica]

That's my point. After that, where do we go? You're worried about A love language.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So, guys, we did the love languages quiz, which, if you haven't taken it, it's pretty great. And it does tell you a lot. There are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. There's five love languages. Words of affirmation, acts of service, receiving gifts, quality time, physical touch.

[Erica]

Yep. The love language test. I circle the one that best describes you. Okay. Let me ask you this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh. So we're gonna do some of our questions.

[Erica]

I'm gonna ask you. Right. So we're gonna ask the questions, and you're gonna answer. I'm gonna ask you these six questions. Are you ready? And then. Okay. Ready. You like to receive notes of affirmation or I like it when you hug me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like to receive notes of affirmation. Okay, what about.

[Erica]

I like. I'm split on this one. I mean, I love hugs and I love. I like both.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

I like to receive notes of affirmation, and I like it when you hug me. Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like both, but I like both. I think notes are.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Planned out in advance.

[Erica]

Sure. I like to spend one on one time with you. I feel loved when you give me practical help. Which do you prefer?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

One on one time.

[Erica]

Same.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep.

[Erica]

I like it when you give me gifts. I like taking long walks with. With you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like long walks.

[Erica]

I think long walks are more valuable because gifts sometimes are given to cover up things.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I agree.

[Erica]

You know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

I feel loved when you do things to help me. I feel loved when you hug or touch me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel loved when you hug or touch me.

[Erica]

Same. But I like. I like some help, too, every now and then.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I don't want to ask for the help. I want you just to do it.

[Erica]

Oh, no. You don't like to ask for any kind of help.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. I'm not interested in your life.

[Erica]

Never. I've never seen you ask for anything. I feel loved when you hold me in your arms. I feel loved when I receive a gift from you between the two of these. I would prefer to be. Hold me in your arms.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Same. I like to go places with you. And I like to hold hands with you, probably. I like to go places and hold hands.

[Erica]

I like to do with both of these things. I know that we're supposed to pick which one, but I know that I wrote mine down because I did take this. And words of affirmation came out on top for me. And then physical touch.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me, too. But also, what I realized about this test, I felt like it was always trying to trick me into saying that I wanted gifts.

[Erica]

I don't like that. Because I think that maybe our culture perceives gifts as, like, bribes or that you are, you know, given. There's this thing around being given a gift. Like, what was the intention of the gift? Was the. You know. And that's what I do. Like gifts. But I think it's the intent of the gift.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Does that make sense? Like, not an obligatory gift or a shut up gift or I fucked up here. Some diamonds.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Gift.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean. And then you end up losing the gift anyway. But I think.

[Erica]

Tell me about it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Tell me.

[Erica]

Tell me about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wasn't. It was not an intentional dig. But I'm glad it worked.

[Erica]

Can I say something? It all works out. Good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But. So that's. We. We recommend you guys taking this quiz because I can say that I wouldn't have thought that my love language is words of affirmation because I'm so awkward getting a compliment.

[Erica]

Maybe that's why you. You. But maybe that's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I think there's two different things. Like, I think words of affirmation, it doesn't necessarily have to be a compliment. It could be like, I'm very proud of you.

[Erica]

Oh, you're doing a great job. I've noticed how hard you've been working. It's really good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

You know, things like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, that is a total.

[Erica]

Like, I love the way you've handled yourself in this situation. I really admire your resilience or whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then when you reverse it, like, it burns me to the core when someone's like, hey, I think you kind of fucked this up.

[Erica]

I don't know that it burns me to the core, but it does bother. It makes me have to take, like, a step back from myself and look at it objectively and not to get hurt personally. I mean, you know, when you look at critiques or something. When I was younger, it was. It would hurt personally. But now I think I have a little bit more perspective in being able to say, hold on. Listen to what's being said. Step back for a second and see. Is there anything here that you agree with that this person is saying? Because sometimes people are just nasty. Did you take criticism personally or did you take it constructively? Were you able under your hardest times when you were riding professionally and writing for clients and stuff like that? Were you able to take coaching? Did you take it to heart and was hurt over it? Was it personal?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I guess I can say that prior to going in the ring, I could take as much information as you want to give.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, this horse is going to Want to dive left, you know, hold it, you know, that type of information. When I came out, I needed a second to beat myself up.

[Erica]

Oh, you're that guy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Uh huh. I'm that guy. I had to beat myself up before I could allow somebody else to give me their.

[Erica]

Were you hard on yourself or did you say, damn it, I missed? Because, like, I'll. I'll bring it right back to these last 40 shows I did on Broadway. I went in with very clear intentions, you know, because anybody that's done shows, you know, you have two people that come to you every time before you go on the ship, before you go on stage, and it's, you know, the dance captain and the musical director. And they come and they go, hey, you were flat here. You were slow here tonight. I'm picking this up. Your hands weren't here, so you have to take those notes every time, every night. And I was like, if I didn't. If I missed a note, I wasn't like, God damn it. I was like. I walked off and I go, I know I missed the note. Do you know, like, I know sometimes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can do that. Even now to this day, though, like. And I see Slate doing it too, and I'm like, shoot, I must have like, naturally given this to her.

[Erica]

It's probably a trait.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Like, it's that like, immediate. Like, we walk out and we need a second and it's because, like, we're processing whatever we did wrong instead of whatever.

[Erica]

Cause you have a choice to process what you did right too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. But like, you know, you're. If you're gonna win or lose.

[Erica]

Oh, do you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

You have a. I don't. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You have a pretty good idea. Like, I know when I just won a class.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So you have to kind of like walk out of the ring knowing, like, the best I'm gonna get is fifth or like, that was terrible.

[Erica]

Yeah. But also too. I would imagine, you know, anything that you do live, like, you could be off the day, the horse could be off that day. Like, it all has to come together perfectly. Yeah, right. I mean, you can.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it's the same as.

[Erica]

That's what I'm saying any. Well, you're in good voice. You're not. Anything done live.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Anything done live and anything done. I don't think there's a ton of sports or music type things that are singular.

[Erica]

That's right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I walk in the ring, I'm by myself. You walk, you know, on stage.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're. Even if there's other people on stage. You're.

[Erica]

I still have my job to do. Yeah. Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And your voice is going to.

[Erica]

Right. You have the leader.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Erica]

And so I would imagine. This is what I always thought was wild, is how do you. I know that you can communicate with animals, and I believe that I'm a big animal person, but that's a big animal. A horse is a big. In controlling those, you know, that movements of that horse, that. That's a real skill.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think that's.

[Erica]

Cause they get moody, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I think that's why it was so important for me to go back. So when I first went back, I went on a horse that I had never shown. There's this nice gal named Tiffany that rides at the barn I'm at, and she can't ride on Saturdays. And she's like, will you ride my horses? And it's jumping. It was jumping significantly smaller than what I jump on. Totally. And so I went and did it, and I felt comfortable, and I was like, okay. So then the next week, I looked at my trainers, John and Peter, and I'm like, hey, guys, can I please show Toad this week? And they're like, teddy.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I'm like, he's my baby. Like, I. I know. Like, we know each.

[Erica]

Yeah. You've always said that you have a connection with this, like a real connection.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If it's not going to be safe. And I'll tell you guys, like, I promise you, I can feel it.

[Erica]

And.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I could, like, day one, I felt on top of the world. And day two, I was like. There was a moment where I was like, shit, yeah. And then I was like, okay, change it up a little bit. And then I looked at them. I'm like, okay, I am fine. I am fine. But I know myself well enough, I think, at this point, after all this stuff, when to pull the plug.

[Erica]

Good, good. Keep that in the forefront. You know, you don't want to do anything that puts you at risk. Does that make sense?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I think you know this, too. Like, sometimes the power of no is more important than the power of yes.

[Erica]

That's really true.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Like, we. We want to say yes to everything, and then we say yes. And then you're like, well, also, too.

[Erica]

You have to discern which yeses. You know, like, what, What. Which ones? Because I love to do everything, but then sometimes I'm like, this is not. This is too much.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then you. And then it makes sense.

[Erica]

And then I don't give a good performance.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Or yeah.

[Erica]

Or I don't. I. When I over book myself, or I, oh, I'm tired. Or then I become crabby and I don't give my best work. And then people aren't left with a good taste in their mouth about, you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Know, it does more harm than good.

[Erica]

It really does. I think so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But either way, I've really missed you.

[Erica]

I missed you too. I'm so happy to see you. And I mean, my God, Teddy. Jesus Christ.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, what. The fact that that all happened while we were just. You were just doing Broadway and I was just trying to mind my own business. Slanging coffee mate.

[Erica]

But you know, the coffee mate worked out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? It did.

[Erica]

Is it. How is business like? How what is? What has been the response, if you don't mind my asking? Obviously, tell me. Shut up. But what's been the response? Like, I know everybody well, you have a lot of people that love you. But what's business like?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I have to say, like, business is good. Everything is good with business. The pod. It's been weird because I'm so behind on shows now.

[Erica]

Right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, I don't even know what to give a shit about at this point. I'm so behind. So I need to catch up on all those for two T's in a pod. But I would say, all in all, things are, like, coming back together. Things are coming back together with the kids, with life. Everything is starting to smooth itself out versus when I wasn't able to be here.

[Erica]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I just felt so far removed and it made me feel yucky.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I mean, everything, everything's good. Like, and I'm just taking it slow. And I'm in immunotherapy.

[Erica]

And what is immunotherapy?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, so immunotherapy. I'm not a doctor, clearly. I know you guys think I'm.

[Erica]

But you are a patient, so you can speak about it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The celebs sends a voice note that he yawns during I almost died. Who? You. I'm sorry. You know, you're sending this voice note. You yawned. Delete it. Start over. But he sends a voice note and he goes, I just want to make sure you're all, you seem very smart. And I was like, anyone that.

[Erica]

Do you know this person?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. And also, nobody in the history of the world of anyone has ever said, you seem very smart.

[Erica]

Yes, they have. Don't. Don't say let's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who?

[Erica]

Well, I think you're smart. And I said you're smart.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Would you look on the World Wide web and be like, that's a smart guy. Stop.

[Erica]

What? Yes, I've watched you express, articulate yourself. I know you're smart. Everybody knows you're smart.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think this random celeb would.

[Erica]

Well, I don't know who this is, but. So tell me, what did he say?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then he said, I just want to make sure that you're following the Eastern medicine and the holistic route as well. I just want to make sure that you're. Let me get through the cancers and then I'm going to take advice. I don't.

[Erica]

Then I'll get some acupuncture.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like I don't even fucking know what Eastern medicine.

[Erica]

Then I'll do a juice cleanse. Let me get this going over here with the radiation. Hold on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But let me zip over and get some psychedelics. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Erica]

Oh, my gosh. The mushrooms. While you're on these.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, what?

[Erica]

Oh, my God. We're gonna get.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I was deceased and I.

[Erica]

No, you don't say that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sorry. That was an accident. Just like that. Just like the losing of the jewelry was accidental.

[Erica]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know, sometimes you can't do it all, but I. A lot of fucking people are crazy because a lot of people have been texting me advice on my cancers. Normally when people post a photo of me, the comments aren't great towards me, right? But apparently post survival, people have really picked up the niceness. Cause I was like, holy mother, I've never seen such a thing. I'm not even getting attacked right now, right? And then Shep called and he goes, I'm confused. The last time I posted a photo, they really let you have it.

[Erica]

Well, listen. And I was like, things are very serious right now with you. And so, you know, people have pulled back on something that they would be, you know, tempted to send, which is why we shouldn't really be sending a.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Whole lot of those anyway, because you never know.

[Erica]

That's my point.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Somebody could have been tumored for a year, and that's why they've been pissing you off. Like, I could now use this as an excuse. Excuse for everything.

[Erica]

I would, I would.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm sorry to you.

[Erica]

No, no. Sorry. No, I wouldn't say anything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You don't even say sorry.

[Erica]

No, I would just say, you know, how. Listen, you can say and do whatever you want in my eyes because you have a past in my book. I'll be honest with you people. We don't know what to do. In this situation, none of us, like, we were all number one, caught off guard. I'm just gonna speak for everybody, and I'm not gonna name names, but here's the thing. You were healthy, and then you were really ill, and it went from, you know, she's good to she's really bad. And I think people were thrown off. People don't know how to respond right now to you. And I think, you know, like, we're laughing and we're bringing levity to this situation, but a lot of people, sometimes people get very afraid during times like this. They don't know what to say. They feel hesitant to reach out to you or, you know, so I'm not making excuses for them, but I am saying, like, just sometimes people don't know what to do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I'm telling you this. If you feel hesitant to reach out to me, that means we're not that close. Don't reach out, because I don't need. I don't like a lot of messages.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm just saying.

[Erica]

Well, that deletes about five people. I was gonna tell you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that's probably good. Cause I doubt I wanted to talk to them.

[Erica]

Oh, my gosh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

All right, guys. Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Diamonds in the Rough.

[Erica]

I was gonna say two T's in a pod, and I'm not the one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That said, listen, you can't even be tumored. I still got four left. I almost said two T's in a pod, but I caught myself. Cause I'm a. What is it that you used to always say?

[Erica]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm a sh. Showgirl.

[Erica]

I'm a showman.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm a showman. And I remember.

[Erica]

You do remember.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

True professional.

[Erica]

Can I tell you something? I love you and I'm proud of you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you.

[Erica]

I really am.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you. Hopefully next week. I seem even sharper.

[Erica]

You're pretty good. I'm gonna tell you something. You're right there. Don't. Don't beat yourself up over it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it was a little bit of upsetting that I'm like, Erica's coming over. I know she's going to be dressed up. And I don't fit in any of my clothes.

[Erica]

I don't either. I put on some weight myself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Nope. Yeah, I can really tell a tipping it. All right, guys, thanks for tuning in. We'll be back next week.

[Erica]

I love you, Teddy Jo.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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