Dirty Divorcees (The Valley Reunion Pt. 1)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Dirty Divorcees (The Valley Reunion Pt. 1)

Release Date: July 30, 2025

Overview

In this spirited episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap Part 1 of "The Valley" reunion, unpacking the drama, relationships, and breakups among the cast. The hosts banter candidly about personal health, the social fallout of revealing tell-alls, messy divorces, and the behind-the-scenes dynamics of reality TV. Their conversation flows between personal anecdotes and sharp takes on cast members, with plenty of signature shade and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Friendship Rumors & Health Updates

• Hosts clarify there's no drama between them, despite online speculation when one is absent from recording. Tamra jokes about people assuming they’re fighting and quips, “It's not because you're fighting for your life… It's because we're fighting among each other.” (04:23)
• Teddi discusses pulling back on immunotherapy due to cancer treatment side effects:
  • Explains immunotherapy stays in the system for months, not days, surprising both hosts.
  • Shares her plan to delay treatment, emphasizing, “I'm listening to what doctors are telling me and what I've read. It's not uncommon.” (06:49)
  • Tamra affirms support and makes light of her new “Drew Barrymore pixie cut” hair regrowth (08:11).

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Sheena’s Tell-All Book & Hookup Confessions

• Sheena Shay’s new book claims, including men she's hooked up with, sparks major gossip:
  • Tamra: “She writes a kind of a tell all book ... she has named some of the guys she has slept with in the book. What are your thoughts about that?” (08:54)
  • Both hosts agree: “Go for it.” (09:10)
  • Teddi lists famous names from Sheena’s book, with the hosts joking about their own overlapping encounters, primarily “hooked up” instead of “slept with.”
  • Tamra’s memorable quote: “Trust me, the only one that ever hit on me was Gary Busey and George Lopez, so it was Slim Pickens.” (09:56)
  • Teddi reveals she once made out with Shane West, leading to jokes about mutual “crossover” with Sheena and even joking they're now sharing “DNA” (13:30).
• Discussion of Sheena’s supposed “threesome” story with John Mayer:
  • “She just said that on social media. I’m like, oh, Sheena, stop. She can’t stop. She can’t stop.” (13:13)

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Jax Taylor: Career Downturn & Public Criticism

• Jax Taylor’s bar exit and show future:

  • Hosts express genuine sadness for Jax after he leaves his bar partnership and announces he won’t return to the show.
  • Tamra: “I feel sorry for him ... I feel like he is about to hit rock bottom.” (17:01)
  • Speculation that the bar was more about his name for PR than true ownership (15:41).

• Ongoing bitterness between Jax and Brittany:

  • “Her responses are like they were locked and loaded. Like, she had them in her head.” (27:50)
  • Breakdown of their divorce and custody schedule—hosts note it’s an outdated agreement compared to modern 50/50 splits.

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Divorce Debacles: Michelle, Jesse, and More

• Michelle and Jesse’s contentious split:
  • The hosts question the rumors over rent payments, child “weaponization,” and working status.
  • Tamra quips about Jesse wanting to represent himself: “The fact that Jesse thinks that he can represent himself is hilarious to me. It’s like he said, I watched three seasons of Suits.” (38:09)
  • Both hosts acknowledge the complexity and pettiness evident in the reunion, especially as the cast filmed it before most of the season had aired—meaning, “there was no accountability ... and no playing for the audience.” (26:01)

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The Valley Reunion Part 1: Recap & Observations

• Filming Timing and Reunion Dynamics:

  • Reunion was filmed after only one episode aired, before the fan backlash was visible—changes the cast’s tone (“no accountability, but also no playing for the audience”). (26:01)

• Kristen’s Apology and Janet’s Honesty:

  • Kristen issues a lukewarm apology, blaming hormones; hosts find it insincere.
  • Janet gets praise for her candor, referencing Adderall and Pilates for her body transformation—“I love a girl that’s brutally honest.” (26:35-26:50)

• Britney vs. Jax—Dirty Details:

  • Britney calls out Jax for not using protection; Jax brags about it, leaving hosts incredulous: “Do you think Jax thinks, like, saying on national TV that he does not use condoms is ... a flex? Like, yeah. Oh, I want to get with him now.” (32:52)

• Reunion Cast Layout & Focal Topics (25:37–29:06):

  • Divided seating (Jax, Jesse, Janet, Jason, Jasmine, Zach vs. Britney, Kristen, Luke, Nia, Danny, Michelle).
  • Main focus: Britney’s animus toward Jax, ongoing legal/financial disputes, and “screw talks” (which both hosts dismiss as ridiculous).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Online Drama Rumors
  Tamra: “People are insane.” (04:07)

• On Immunotherapy & Personal Health
  Teddi: “I'm listening to what doctors are telling me and what I've read. It's not uncommon.” (06:49)
  Tamra: “A spray tan helps a lot. A little bleach job and a spray tan.” (08:07)

• On Celebrity Hookups
  Tamra: “Trust me, the only one that ever hit on me was Gary Busey and George Lopez, so it was Slim Pickens.” (09:56)
  Teddi, on Sheena’s “list”: “The fact that I have crossover with Sheena, I'm like, I guess it's not that hard to do.” (12:24)

• On Jax’s Downfall
  Tamra: “I feel like he is about to hit rock bottom. And is that what it's going to take for him?” (17:01)

• On Divorce, Lawyers, & Weaponizing Children
  Tamra: “The fact that Jesse thinks that he can represent himself is hilarious to me. It’s like he said, I watched three seasons of Suits.” (38:09)
  Teddi: “Aren't you your representative?” (38:27)

• On Reality TV Reunions
  Tamra: “No accountability, but also no playing for the audience.” (26:27–26:32)

• On Janet’s Honesty
  Tamra: “Janet did win me over when she credits Adderall and Pilates for her transformation. I love a girl that's brutally honest. She looks hot. Not the best way to do it with Adderall. It is with the Pilates.” (26:35)

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Important Timestamps

• Friendship/Health Clarification: 03:31–04:29
• Immunotherapy and Cancer Talk: 05:50–08:11
• Sheena’s Book and Hookup List: 08:49–14:34
• Jax Taylor Bar & Show Fallout: 15:04–17:23
• Michelle & Aaron’s Breakup: 22:41–23:20
• Divorce Discussion—Michelle & Jesse: 37:41–38:36
• Reunion Setup and Cast Dynamics: 25:37–29:06
• Britney vs. Jax and “Dirty Dick” Debate: 28:46–32:52
• Danny’s Acting Career Realization: 40:19–41:45
• Jax’s Mental Health & Rehab: 41:57–43:00

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Tone & Final Thoughts

True to their “housewives who know housewives” vibe, Teddi and Tamra’s conversation is witty, gossipy, and laced with self-deprecating humor. They balance candor about their own lives with sharp, sometimes savage, observations about reality TV peers. The episode delivers a juicy insiders’ breakdown of “The Valley” reunion, giving listeners both the messy details and personal perspectives that fans crave.

Final sign-off:
“We have a lot more to get through, so make sure you guys keep tuning in to Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge. Love you guys.” (45:21)

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Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hi, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with Myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Hi, Tammy Sue.

I'm so happy to be back with you.

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me too.

[Tamara Judge]

I love that every time that I'm not here, they're like, you and Tamara fighting.

Oh, my God. I get those too. It is crazy. People are like, do I sense tension.

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Between you and Teddi?

[Tamara Judge]

And I'll be like, why?

I'm like, this is what you call being a good friend. She has my back on the days that I don't feel well.

Right.

And takes care of our job.

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People are insane.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

They always want to look for the negative in everything because we're not potting together. It's because we're fighting.

We're definitely fighting. It's not because I have cancer.

It's not because you're fighting for your life.

It's because we're fighting among each other. It's really concerned about some passive aggressive thing either me or Tamara said to one another.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Which happens. Hasn't happened at all. Tamara has been a very good friend to me. And the fact that she can fill in and do this and then I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Can come back in, but, I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

What a difference a week makes.

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[Tamara Judge]

I'm so happy when you feel bad. I get sad. Then you're happy. I'm happy when you're laughing. I'm like, oh, yay, she's laughing.

Oh, my God. Well, I have a funny story to tell you. You know how, like, I still can't write my texts very well? So, you know, for the last probably five months, I've, like, I can't see my texts. I can't even see them. So all of a sudden, yesterday, I dropped my phone by accident, and something popped off the front of it, and I'm like, what the hell is. And I pull it off, and it's my privacy screen, which makes your phone like, Ten times darker than it naturally.

Stop it. Okay, so now you have no excuse for not texting back, you know?

No, I still can't text. I just can't. Now I can see your text and not respond.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I can see them better.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

But I was like, I can't. Within myself, my privacy screen. Like, oh, don't want it. Don't want Dove to look over and see what I wrote. I mean, what.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Why don't you.

[Tamara Judge]

Privacy screen.

I don't know. What are you.

What are you.

What are you texting?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who are you texting? You?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I'm texting no one, actually, Nobody.

So you've been feeling a little shitty lately. You've announced that you're going to pull back on the immunotherapy. What are your thoughts on that? Are you.

At first, I was a little concerned, but I didn't realize how long immunotherapy lives in your system, so. Just a long time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, he's like, oh, my gosh, it's still in there. I'm like, but what do you mean?

[Tamara Judge]

It's been a week or it's been two weeks or it's been a week?

I think, like, you take it, and then after the initial week, you feel like it should be out of your system.

That's what I thought.

Right.

That's not the case.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's in your system for months and months and months.

[Tamara Judge]

So we're just peeling back a little bit. I'll still go in and get another scan next week. But next week I was supposed to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Also get immunotherapy, which I'm not going to get.

[Tamara Judge]

So the normal procedure is once a month, you get a scan, then you do immunotherapy, and then you wait another month and you do it again, Right?

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[Tamara Judge]

And this month, we're just going to do the scan, and if everything looks.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

The way it looked at the last.

[Tamara Judge]

Scan, then we're going to hold off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A month on doing immunotherapy, which, you.

[Tamara Judge]

Know, people say, does this mean you're giving up, or does it know. I am listening to what doctors are telling me and what I've read.

It's not uncommon.

It's. Yeah, apparently, it's not uncommon. I just. They said, you fooled us at the beginning, Teddy, because you felt so good. Mm.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And you were, like, going to horse.

[Tamara Judge]

Shows, doing a million things. He's like. But then that's what happens.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Immunotherapy wears you down. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I've read that the more you do, the harder each one is that's true. Okay. That's what I read. You never know what you read is true or not. But I'm always reading like, you know is why, why is she stopping? You know, I always want to know, but I know I want to ask you those questions because you're already in it. You're in the thick of it.

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The last thing you want to do.

[Tamara Judge]

Is get text messages from your friends like, so why are you quitting immunotherapy?

What are you doing? Yeah, and it's like, I'm not quitting. I'm listening to what the doctor said. And that's why one of the he said, that's one of the reasons we chose immunotherapy for you, because we want to be able to not. It's not just like that given thing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That you just have to take it, take it, take it. No matter how sick you're going to feel. He's like, we are going to make sure that this is the right thing for you continuously. And when it's time, when your body's.

[Tamara Judge]

Ready, like, so they put me on.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Steroids and did all that.

[Tamara Judge]

And, you know, so I feel good.

You look so much better.

I mean, a spray tan helps a lot.

A little bleach job.

A little bleach job and a spray tan. I wonder if this, how long until I have, like, the Drew Barrymore pixie cut?

It's grown a lot.

I mean, it's. You paused. You hesitated.

No, I didn't. It has grown a lot. Like it wasn't. I feel like it wasn't that long ago that you were showing, like you could actually see the scar on the back of your head.

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's gotten so much better.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

But I mean, here's the thing. I'm having a good week. I'm happy about it. I wish I could read because we have something to talk about in regards to Sheena, her book. I wish we would have read Sheena's book because.

Oh, you wish you could read long. Well, you can probably get the audio.

I, I okay, send me the audiobook.

She, she writes a kind of a tell all book from what I'm hearing. I'm seeing her do a, a book tour right now on social media and she has named some of the guys she has slept with in the book. What are your thoughts about that?

You know what? Go for it.

Go, go for it.

Because I would assume looking at this list, a lot of people have slept with these people.

Are you saying you might have slept with one or two of Them.

Well, let's go through the list and you tell me who you think.

Okay.

And I'm not going to say slept, but I will say hooked up.

What's the difference?

That's the thing. I don't know. What's the difference? It sounds better.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Hooked up. Hooked up. Okay, let's go.

I have a question. Why is it called sleeping? Because there's no sleeping involved.

Well, maybe if you really like each other, you sleep over after.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, Tam, because. All right, let's. You go through the list and then. Well, okay. Overlooking you. What if you made out with one of them?

My. My days were not in la. Sleeping with stars. Trust me, the only one that ever hit on me was Gary Busey and George Lopez, so it was Slim Pickens. Okay, I'm just gonna put that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

At the club tattoo.

Would you write a book about that and just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

So I can have a little thing like this.

I think I was like 22 years old on that. Remember the club tattoo? Probably not. You're probably.

No, I die first.

Yeah, yeah.

So you see, get it, Tam.

It was after he, like, had his head injuries. That's the only reason.

Can we talk about your tagline really quick? Why we. Since we're talking about Tam being a hottie.

It was my least. It was the one that I actually didn't want. Like, you know, they give.

Can you say it to me real quick?

I don't remember it.

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[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I'm taking a long time look at myself in the mirror and my reflection.

I'm looking at. Taking a hard.

A hard look in the mirror and my reflection is still hot.

I. Tim, I can't. I couldn't even wait to talk shit about this behind your back.

It was voted the best one, I'll tell you that. Over and over it's been voted, like, the number one. You know, guys, I. We get these lines fed to us. We have a choice if we don't want to read it or not. But I. I'm like a team player. You want me to read it? I'm going to and read it, Right? So I read them all and there was some ones that I liked better. I like better. But this is. This is the one they chose.

Well, whatever. We're not going to go through everybody's because I don't have them in front.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Of me right now and I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

Want to mutts over those. But let's talk about these Dudes.

Jesse Metcalf.

Did you hook up with them?

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I haven't hooked up with one of these.

Okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

The closest I've ever gotten to any of them is John Mayer. And that was with you at Andy's baby shower.

And he's not even the one I made out with.

Oh, you made out Eddie Cibrian.

Eddie Judge.

Yes.

Eddie Cibrian.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

John Mayer. No.

No.

Shemar.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Shane West. I don't even know who Shane west is. Can you tell me who Shane west is?

He was in A Walk to Remember with Mandy Moore, but back in the early 90s or late 90s, he was all the rage.

Oh, really? Is he still. Is he still acting?

I don't know. We don't catch up. We don't have each other's phone. Or maybe I should update him to my post tumor phone so he could check in on me. I mean, I think we made out and, like. But the fact that I have crossover with Sheena, I'm like, I guess it's not that hard to do, but, like.

These are a lot. She named a lot. And she's a sub. A jc. He's. What was he on Backstreet? Was he a Backstreet Boy or.

He's an NSync.

NSync. Adrian.

Adrian Grenier, who she said I think was the worst. Oh, who wants to be the worst of this list?

Would you?

I feel like I know a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Of people that have made out with Shemar Moore too.

[Tamara Judge]

He's got a lot of makeouts. So does Shane.

Hot, by the way. Yeah, I mean, I mean, all these guys are good looking. I'm sure John Mayer is just not thrilled about this.

And I heard it was actually a threesome. Is that right?

Well, she said there was people in the room. She just said that on social media. I'm like, oh, Sheena, stop.

She can't stop. She can't stop.

How would you like to be named in a hookup list in a book?

Well, I wasn't thrilled to even have a name that I knew on this hookup list that I had hooked up with because I was like, oh, my gosh, now we have crossover. That is a little bit sloppy.

You're, like, sharing DNA now.

Oh, my gosh. Me, Sheena and Shane have a child together.

Oh, God.

I wonder who hooked up with them first.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sheena.

[Tamara Judge]

I hooked up with them back, I think, in 1999. When did you hook up with them?

How old is Sheena? She younger than you?

No, but she's from here. So she's, like, been going around this.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Town for a while now.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

19.

[Tamara Judge]

You are partying like it's 1999.

Partying like it was 1999. With Shane West.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Where were you?

[Tamara Judge]

I want details. Where did you meet him?

I met him at Joseph's. We hung out a couple times.

Was that a restaurant or bar?

No, it was a club.

Club Joseph's.

Yeah, it was like a Brett Bolthouse club. It was raging on Monday nights. Okay, but you guys want to have a little tidbit? The reason why Shane and I stopped making out is we had gone to a Halloween party together a couple weeks later, and he ditched me for Jenna Dewan.

What if it was Sheena he did shoe for? Oh, that would have been hysterical.

It's just too good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

Jenna Dewan.

I don't know who that is either.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Please.

[Tamara Judge]

She was married to Channing Tatum. She's an actress.

I barely know who he is. I don't know who anybody is.

Well, know who you do know who it is. Jax.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Oh.

[Tamara Judge]

Because we got to talk about some things. No, this isn't somebody she's made out.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

With, according to her book.

[Tamara Judge]

But Jax terminates his partnership with Studio City Bar, so not only do we not have Jax on the show next.

Year, so last week he announced he's not coming back. It's interesting that we see in the first couple minutes of the show, and we'll recap it in a minute, but it's mentioned that he's worried that he's going to lose his job.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And, well, I'm sad, to be honest.

I'm sad, too. I actually sent a text to Alex Baskin, and I said, why is this making me sad? Because I've ripped on tracks before on this podcast a million times, but I feel like, you know, losing the show, the bar. The bar situation, to me, I feel like that was.

I wonder if it was really his bar.

I don't think. To me, I'm speculating. They used his face. There was people that were, you know, funding it and all that stuff. And if he's not on the show anymore, then whose name they're going to put up? They're going to put up.

Mine's actually put up right now.

Britney's.

Teddy is up there next.

Teddy's.

Well, all I know is his name is officially down.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, his name is the. There's no longer the sign up. It's not Brits.

Well, what about the comment that he slept with the entire staff or some of the staff I love that we.

Can'T even help but exaggerate the entire staff with everybody in Los Angeles, California. And Sheena's list.

Oh, my God. Yes. So not looking good. It'll be interesting to see what they do with that bar. If they rename it, are they gonna close it? How's it doing?

No, it was a bar before it was Jax's, so I'm sure it'll just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Be that bar again.

[Tamara Judge]

What was the bar's name before that?

So Rocco's was a bar that they.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Have in West Hollywood. They also have one in Studio City. And then in the side of Rocco's was Jax's, so that's why we always saw them sitting on the side area.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. But in a statement, he posts on Instagram that I have made the decision to end my partnership with Jax.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

As he wrote. I.

[Tamara Judge]

Like we talked about. I don't know if that's exactly what happened, but there is a sense that I feel sorry for him. I feel like he is about to hit rock bottom. And is that what it's going to take for him? Because the. The first part of the reunion did him no justice whatsoever.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Justice is the right word to say.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But didn't do them any good.

[Tamara Judge]

Didn't do me any good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

That actually keep you warm.

The Italian wool coats, absolute top of my list.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Can we talk about another breakup that we heard?

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So Michelle and Aaron end their relationship.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

After a year together.

[Tamara Judge]

They moved out all. I mean, all of this discussion and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Now I need to know why.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Why?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I. I was shocked at that one because she made it really sound like, you know, they were really in love and they moved in together and he was still great with the daughter and.

They were saying, I love you. The daughter saying I love you.

I mean, it's just.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

You never know.

[Tamara Judge]

You never know. Is it gonna. I don't know. Who knows who's gonna date? Who's gonna date? You think they'll get back together?

No, I don't think they're going to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If she moved out, I don't think they're getting back together.

[Tamara Judge]

No. No. You think that Jesse and her will get back together?

No, I think he's still with that.

Chick from OC Check.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

OC Check who?

[Tamara Judge]

I. Were they implying that OC Chick paid.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

His bills or was Michelle saying she paid his bills?

[Tamara Judge]

I couldn't figure that out.

I mean, I know they said Michelle at the end, Michelle said herself like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That she had to pay rent at both places, which I don't know if necessarily paying Jesse's rent.

[Tamara Judge]

What does j. What does Jesse do for a living again?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's a real estate agent, I think, but I just may have made that up. But I think they were partners, remember?

[Tamara Judge]

Huh.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse, if you're listening to this, sorry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I never texted back. He put me on a group text with him and the girlfriend. And it was supposed to be to.

[Tamara Judge]

Do something, I think, but I was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

When I was really sick, so I forgot to text back. And now it's like too much time has passed. So I'm just going to do it publicly here before I forget again.

[Tamara Judge]

I think you should just do a blanket statement because there's a lot of people you don't text back.

Hi, it's Teddy. I'm not going to call or text.

You back, but you should just change your voicemail.

I already have. I. I'm not going to listen to this voicemail.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So text my assistant.

[Tamara Judge]

Why don't you do this? Why don't you put, like, an automatic response to your text messages?

Because it only works the first time I tried it. It does?

Really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

So the first.

It'll work.

So if you texted me, it'll only.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Send it to you the first time.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's like, Teddy, your bed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I learned that in Celebrity Big Brother.

The things you learned.

Because when I was leaving, like, and they had to and I had to give my phone, I was like, well, I'm gonna put an away message. But then people only got that away message once. So if you send me a message and then three weeks later send me another message, you're only gonna get the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

One from the first one.

[Tamara Judge]

That doesn't work for you.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Frustrating.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, so let's talk about shows. How. How you like Jasmine, because I missed that pod.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

She's great. Fell in love with her. She's cool. We chat. We DM a little bit here and there. Really, really like her. Wish we would have heard more from her part one of the reunion. But I felt like the only people we really heard from was Britney. Britney was on fire with Jack. She's got so much hate inside towards him. And I felt like the first half of the reunion was focused on them.

Well, the seating chart is. On one side, it's Jax, Jesse, Janet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jason, Jasmine, and Zach.

[Tamara Judge]

On the other side is Brittany, Kristen.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Luke, Nia, Danny, and Michelle.

[Tamara Judge]

It starts off with Kristen apologizing to Janet for saying she was going to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Knock her out, calling her a whore in Hawaii.

[Tamara Judge]

What would you do?

Well, first off, Janet, now would have been a good time for you to.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Apologize for some of your things that you did.

[Podcast Announcer]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you know what makes this reunion especially interesting is it was filmed after only one episode had aired, so. Only one episode. So, you know, because of the pregnancies, they had to do that. So the cast hadn't seen the full, like, season played out on screen as far as, like, how the fans reacted. So there was no accountability.

Our favorite word.

Because New York favorite word. No accountability, but also no playing for the audience.

Yeah, they didn't know. They didn't know how bad they were about to get it.

Janet did win me over when she credits Adderall and Pilates for her transformation. I love a girl that's. That's brutally honest. She looks hot. Not the best way to do it with Adderall. It is with the Pilates. But she was honest, and I like that she.

I mean, we think she was honest. Who knows?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There could be a dash of Ozempic in there.

[Tamara Judge]

Who knows? Who knows? And I hate to speculate.

Oh, I know you do.

I hate to speculate. But then I also didn't really think Kristin's apology. I love you, Kristin. But that didn't seem like the most sincere of apologies.

Was her apology something about she was on hormones?

I mean, what was it? No, she was like, I just want to start out by apologizing, but, like, it was very light, but is what it is. Kristen found out two weeks after the show wrapped that she was pregnant. That's where she says that her hormones.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Are what happens when they get pregnant.

[Tamara Judge]

Kristen says she hasn't started planning the wedding. Nia talks about her pregnancy. Danny jokes about getting a vasectomy, and Jack says he will join Danny. And then Brittany jokes that Jack would have 20 baby mamas if he doesn't get one.

Well, Brittany did not let up on Jax once during the reunion. I felt like anything that she can poke out, she did. I mean, her response are like, they were locked and loaded. Like, she had them in her head, and she's like, know what else was in people's heads?

Zach trying to make screw talks happen. I don't want to hear it again. I don't want to hear why.

I don't understand the point of screw talks at all. Like, balls are wrinkly and they're hairy. I mean, even if you shave, they.

Better not be hairy.

Well, I mean, they are normally, like, so what are they, like, smoothed eggs? Like veiny eggs or something?

Loose eggs? Yeah. I just like to loosen their balls.

I don't know.

I'd like those tight as in there. But then Britney and Jackson come to an agreement when he can see Cruz on Wednesdays and every other weekend once they go through their divorce settlement, which at this point, it's been so long.

But that's a very old schedule. That is a schedule that they used to do. Like, When Ryan, when I got divorced from Ryan's dad, it was very typical for a woman to get the kids, the guys to get the kids every other weekend. And once during wonder now it's like most judges will say 50 50.

But during the after show, which was filmed after the reunion, Jack says he had agreed to hand over his portion of their podcast feed worth five hundred thousand if Britney did not bring up the eighteen thousand dollar mortgage. Brittany says Jax is now using that feed to hang over her head to with Cruz, etc.

So they're, they're claiming they're making a million dollars in their podcast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Maybe they are.

[Tamara Judge]

Have you ever listened to it?

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Does it chart?

I don't know. All I know is that when I'm not doing this podcast, I'm listening to Crime Junkie. So I mean, it's not like I'm on my spare, sadly on my spare time. I'm not like in the mind of Jax Taylor.

No, please, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Who's doing this? Who's doing this for him?

I don't know. Do you think it's making millions?

Like what outlet's like, yes, that's a good idea. We're going to sign you. We are going to sign you. I don't get why Jax keeps saying things and doing things when he knows Britney. Like lying, blatantly lying about things when Brittany's going to call him out.

But then Andy asked Jax if, if he uses birth control, meaning condoms. Jax seemed like he was confused what that even meant.

Shocker. But then he started to say he didn't.

He started to say he didn't. And then Brittany says he is disgusting and wouldn't touch his dirty dick with.

A 10 foot pole.

With a 10 foot pole. Brittany says. That isn't what Brittany said four months ago when they were on a date at Hooters and Jax is insinuating that.

They first of all why they had Hooters didn't was that like this is.

Still place that's where they met.

I'm not sure we have many Hooters in Orange county, but if you don't.

Want to like rekindle your flame, why are you at your original place where you found love, Right.

Talking about getting it on, sticking it.

In, let's get it on. But seeing as that Jax could use a job right now, maybe he should wear new dirty dick hats because he.

Can'T wear his Jaxes dirty dick hats. So he's openly admitting not to using protection and now he's shaming Britney for using protection. And sleeping with porn stars.

And then she's like, you too?

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, they didn't. Was. I don't think they met porn stars. They meant only fans because then they switched it to only fans.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh.

[Tamara Judge]

But I want to have you watched that new only fans documentary?

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

There's one about the girl that had sex with, like, over.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm gonna make up the numbers because I won't remember.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like a thousand guys or something.

Thousand guys.

Ridiculous. And 12 hour. Like, something crazy. I'm like, why? Why do you want to be known for that? When you put that out on the Internet, it's there forever.

Well, money.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Money.

[Tamara Judge]

There ain't enough money in the world. Sorry.

Depends.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What's your price?

[Tamara Judge]

Ouch. That's all I can say is ouch. No, thank you.

Wouldn't be looking.

And what kind of guys are. Are doing this? Like, oh, I'm. Yeah, let's pull a train. I'm up for this. Like, is that a train?

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

What's the train again?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I forgot a train. No, you didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

It was on Real Housewives.

I know, but I forgot it's a train. A train is when you keep doing, like.

Yeah, Everybody's back to back. Oh, no, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So she's.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't.

She's just.

She's not. She's just doing what?

I'm not training it.

I don't think they're all doing her at once. A thousand people doing you at one time might be a little tight. Not for Tam, but for most.

Not for me. Like the Grand Canyons.

Oh, my gosh.

But do you think Jax thinks, like, saying on national TV that he does not use condoms is like, he. It's a flex. Like, yeah. Oh, I want to get with him now.

I just want to touch his fresh skin.

Yeah.

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

If there's anything as perfectly dramatic and totally engrossing as reality tv. It might be the procedural shows on primetime TV right now, specifically all of.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

The shows from the One Chicago Universe.

[Tamara Judge]

If you're a fan of one of.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Their shows, then there's a new podcast you'll want to check out called the One Chicago Podcast from USG Audio and Wolf Entertainment.

When it comes to tv, there's something so satisfying about knowing how the sausage gets made. From cheeky production choices to plot lines and the reactions of the fan base, the One Chicago Podcast is all that and more.

It's the official behind the scenes look at the iconic shows from the One Chicago Universe, Chicago pd, Chicago Med, and of course, Chicago Fire.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Each episode joins host and former Chicago cop turned Chicago PD producer Brian Lucci, and he's joined by the actors, producers and writers behind the epic One Chicago Universe.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then Michelle and Jesse talk about their divorce. How they both weaponize their child. I don't think Jesse did himself any favors in this discussion because what she ends up calling him out on isn't great.

Now Michelle's like, I'm not weaponizing. Is it? I'm not weaponizing our daughter and Jesse, how could I turn that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like Michelle, right when you said.

[Tamara Judge]

You just said weaponizing a weaponizing.

I don't know. She just channeled through me, I guess. The fact that Jesse thinks that he can represent himself is hilarious to me. It's like he said, I watched a three season of suits, which I've never seen, so I'm assuming it's some kind of.

It's a lawyer show, obviously.

I got this.

I talked to my representative. Aren't you your representative?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

That was so funny. Aren't you the attorney?

Danny finally convinced NIA to move to Santa Clarita. I feel like they had to ask production first. Like, if we move to Santa Clarita, are you still going to film us? And they're like, where is.

Where can you. He says it's 18 minutes away from the Valley. Is that true?

Yeah, it's not that far.

Oh. So what is Santa Clarita next to Valencia?

So I thought it was like out.

There by like Montes Magic toe.

No, it was out there by Matt.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Not Montecito.

[Tamara Judge]

Magic Mountain.

I thought it was like in Santa Barbara or something.

No, it's by Magic Mountain.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

I just heard Magic mountain is closing. What, 20, 27?

Well, that's a lot of time away, I think. Why are they making it going so in advance?

I don't know. Maybe it was a lie I read on Instagram.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. Then Andy asked Jack to describe the boys chat.

[Tamara Judge]

Brittany says it's just them continuously degrading women and sending pictures of Vaginas and.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then Andy brings up that Michelle claimed Jesse was broke. Jesse says he's living just fine.

[Tamara Judge]

So Michelle asks him who is paying him money to pay his rent.

And you think maybe it could be the girlfriend that's helping him out. Is he not working? Does he not get paid for the show?

Well, this is. Well, I think it was the house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They lived in together. I'm assuming they paid half and half. And then when she moved out, she had to. He said she had to keep paying is what she implied.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the truth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then now that she's not there, how is he affording that same place on, you know, similar salary is what.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm guessing, but I truly have no idea, nor do I really care.

Right. Was Danny trying to be an actor before?

Danny is an actor.

Danny's an actor?

Yes. Where have you been? Danny is an actor. Andy's like a big voiceover actor.

I could see him being a voiceover actor. I mean, but does he, like, see his face?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

I randomly was watching a movie with the kids recently and he was on it.

Really?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He was a bad guy.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Really?

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you shitting me?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I'm not shitting you.

[Tamara Judge]

So, wow. Because when Janet goes, we all know the mics work. He's an actor. When Danny was asked to, you know, he's talking about the boys chat, and he said, I forgot the mic was on. The cameras weren't on me, so I forgot the mic was on. She's like, well, you know, hello, actor. And I'm like, he's an actor.

But also, mics aren't always on when you're an actor.

I don't know. I'm an actor.

When you're an actor. Well, I'm sorry, I've been in a movie.

Oh, well, I was on Royal Pains. I have came out.

But they turn the mics off. That's why Denise and whatnot would always be like, testing, test, you know, or like, she'd say. Whatever she'd say because she was used.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

To acting, not being on a reality show or the cameras are just filming.

[Tamara Judge]

Which is what he could have.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. I think that's why she was saying, like, listen, actor.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, the cameras are always on.

Yeah.

But he did seem like he was whispering.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He, like, he was like, oh, he was.

[Tamara Judge]

He was whispering for sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then the final thing that they.

[Tamara Judge]

Talk about is Andy brings up the fight that led to Jax checking himself.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Into a mental treatment facility.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think that Chat.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Chat.

[Tamara Judge]

Jax was given an ultimatum for the show.

An ultimatum, like, go.

Go to rehab. It's happened before. Go to rehab or you have to get off the show. You're a liability.

I think once Brittany said it was cocaine.

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There was no choice, regardless.

[Tamara Judge]

And I'm sure that's not the first time they've heard it was cocaine. I'm sure Britney's had conversations with production off camera, and he said it at.

The top of the reunion.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think that that was why he said he had to go to save his job.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, okay. I wasn't sure what he meant. Like, and I didn't. Andy, ask him. You mean like this job?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

Or Jax's. I mean, but I love that that went above Cruz.

Oh, it's important for you to stop for your marriage or your son. It's more important for you to save.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Your job on the Valley.

[Tamara Judge]

Or how about all of the above? Like, your health, your kids. Like, you know, he's always so red and when they.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Viewer sanity.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, exactly. He's always, like, Brittany accusing him of doing steroids. Now I'm. Because I owned a gym and I could always tell who's on steroids. And I know how you can tell, and you can tell by looking at somebody and being red like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. Well, he also kind of tried to pretend that he was calm the whole time, but meanwhile his veins were popping out of his head.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

But then Britney says Julian made her feel beautiful again after Jax degraded her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And she lost her sparkle.

[Tamara Judge]

Jax. Apparently, sparkle is a trigger word for Jax.

Don't say sparkle again. I'm sick of hearing sparkle.

Well, I kind of find that to be a weird. Like, I lost my spark.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Spark.

[Tamara Judge]

I lost my.

I don't know that I would say sparkle when it came to me.

Yeah, I would. I would.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sparkle. Would you?

[Tamara Judge]

What would you say about, like, she lost her. Like, sparkle's a little. Like.

You'Re not. We're not Sparkle girls. Like, I don't think Sparkle as we look. We look homeless right now as we're doing the podcast. Right. We're not the Sparkle girls.

And we're not toothless either.

We're not toothless.

We're not. We got fake ones.

Got fake ones.

We got fake ones.

Well, Texas is waiting for you.

I know. I can't wait till I can travel to Texas and get my chompers redone because mine are over 10 years old.

Yeah, it's going to look great.

Well, thanks, guys, for tuning in to another episode. Is there anything else you want to discuss before we go?

Tam well, I do want to add that Jax said he has been sober for 156six days.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And that was a long time ago.

[Tamara Judge]

That was a long time ago. So I'm wondering if today he would be sober 243 days.

Look at you at the mat.

I did the m I know to me, Jax did not come off as apologetic or sincere. I feel like there's something way deeper. The way that he tries to explain why he drinks and does cocaine. Like he doesn't admit that it's an actual problem. His problem in his mind is that.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

His anger is angry.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know this problem.

[Sponsor/Advertiser Voice]

Well, steroids will make you angry.

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